💬destiny-chat

[neat crescent]

Unless I missed it, I don't see the option anywhere

[gleaming hinge]

Overload sword when the cold steel slammer rocks up with it prebaked into the sword

[rapid jungle]

For skating?

[dim glacier]

thanks

[thorn yew]

utility

[somber dawn]

for stunning overloads

or like killing some enemies

[modest bison]

"not much effort for a new player", that says a lot

[rapid jungle]

Overloads are so easy to stun tho

[somber dawn]

procing stasis things

[spice plank]

so are you trying to say all 25 perks in an artifact need to be goated for the artifact to be insanely good?

[modest bison]

acting like destiny doesnt have complexity

[naive owl]

IN GALAXY POOLS DM ME

[pallid raft]

whatever bungo says

[upbeat quarry]

like 1965 they said idk its in twid

[broken phoenix]

It doesn’t

[rapid jungle]

Yes >:) (joke)

[alpine garnet]

omg right! Heartshadow time!

[somber dawn]

THATS WHAT YOURE TRYING TO DO LMAO

[spice plank]

😛

[keen wasp]

This is literally subjective and someone with 100+ kf sherpas spoke from their experience and said you were wrong

[modest bison]

whats your build?

[dusky wigeon]

cope is fair but malding that someone is new and trying to help others out with what they've found best isn't really that bad as you guys are making it out to be

[somber dawn]

YOURE TEACHING PEOPLE TO USE THE EASIEST GUN POSSIBLE

[sweet lark]

did they show the emblem for completing day 1?

[somber dawn]

WHEN ITS ASS LMAO

[modest bison]

"sherpaing KF, have 0 clears, kwtd"

[spice plank]

LFR's are great 😄

[upbeat quarry]

no

[gleaming hinge]

the 2 heartshadow mains are pogging out of their minds right now

[wanton halo]

?

[keen wasp]

What does this mean?

[upbeat quarry]

i dont do 0 clears and neither does my sherpa friend

[spice plank]

also rockets and gl's are getting a 7% nerf in tfs anyway

[pallid raft]

he was saying rockets should never be used because someone can blow themself up

[modest bison]

people farm sherpas

[gleaming hinge]

average lfg post

[upbeat quarry]

i never join 0 clear sherpas because i hate them

[broken phoenix]

6’8 insanely muscly and looks like a Greek god

[dire lichen]

fellow kf clear farmer?

[upbeat quarry]

you can lurk my rr if you want

[rapid jungle]

Still gonna be meta because the titan exotic that buffs rockets

[modest bison]

lmao bet, that was actually a good reply

[upbeat quarry]

i have about 220 fulls and 234 sherpas

[keen wasp]

And people learn the raid and get better at the game

[upbeat quarry]

that is not even 2 zero clear players per raid

[sweet lark]

just on kf alone?

[modest bison]

they learn the raid mechanics, yes

[spice plank]

and edge transit meta with the void artifact in column 5, pretty hype

[upbeat quarry]

yeah

[keen wasp]

Backpedal backpedal backpedal

[rapid jungle]

Super hype

[thorn yew]

holy shmoly! thats almost as bad as the 5 percent bns nerf! this is going to shake up the meta loads! just like the bns nerf did!

[pallid raft]

sherpa farmers don't teach new players

[modest bison]

what? the guy gave a funny reply

youve been giving dookie replies

[spice plank]

ok 👍

[upbeat quarry]

ask my friend that actually teaches kf flacid lips

[gleaming hinge]

watch them release a void rocket launcher with some dumb perks as part of the episode or something so titans with new chest can meme harder

[spice plank]

whats the rocket releasing with Saint 14 weapons reprisal?

[upbeat quarry]

he is the best kf sherpa i know and he uses rockets for everything but oryx even with 4-5 new players

[rapid jungle]

I hope it stacks with gjally

[spice plank]

is it solar or void?

[thorn yew]

precision frame

[upbeat quarry]

and teaches the new players how to use rockets well

[broken phoenix]

Bungie did a funny and released the best artifact in like 2 years with 3 days to level before the raid

[dire lichen]

chat should i do a kings fresh?

[rapid jungle]

Also why would a Sherpa not teach new players to use good weapons

[thorn yew]

supposedly it buffs Wolfpack rounds

[wooden cosmos]

So mid is what I’m hearing

[modest bison]

what does he use for oryx?

[somber dawn]

because hes a burger

[thorn yew]

yep

[tacit ledge]

I just had to chase a dog across the highway

[modest bison]

does he put everyone on whisper?

[upbeat quarry]

whisper cause not a lot of people in lfg use rockets anyway

[tacit ledge]

for fifteen gd minutes

[pallid raft]

why was that person moving

[rapid jungle]

All these problems can be solved by not moving

[safe tusk]

lfg

[spice plank]

Its super funny this is one of our only artifacts ever that doesn't have auto rifle in column 1, and just when they're releasing a healing auto rifle 😛 but we have enough ways to get radiance nbd at all ofc

[upbeat quarry]

whisper on oryx is fine but its not the best option

[modest bison]

so everyone has whisper when lfging?

[upbeat quarry]

still, most people use whisper on him

[alpine garnet]

im teaching new players hold lmb while using tlord

[modest bison]

or do you pause the raid & have em go get it?

[stark lake]

and you say we have selective hearing

[upbeat quarry]

like 2 people havent had whisper

[rapid jungle]

They should ngl it’s free to play and easy to get

[tacit ledge]

He kept shmoving and cutting the entire road like holy

[spice plank]

In Pantheon every group I joined used whisper on oryx (even on arc week) and Sleeper on Nez

[stark lake]

omg you're so dumb

[modest bison]

what did they use?

[upbeat quarry]

out of around 230

[upbeat quarry]

a rocket launcher

and they still did fine damage

[alpine garnet]

@tame forum amogus

[rapid jungle]

Grand overture prolly does more damage than an lfr

[dusky wigeon]

@scarlet ermine

[summer palm]

Competitive is about to bring me to tears

[spice plank]

I look for every excuse to use LFR's. loading up a x3 harmonic loadout for Briars on the GOTD boss is my therapy

[scarlet ermine]

@dusky wigeon

[alpine garnet]

@fervent veldt

[modest bison]

what? i was just confirming that everyone had whisper

[pallid raft]

I've never seen someone move that much before

[dusky wigeon]

do u still play eft at all?

[somber dawn]

the draconic tree sentinel is so cancer man

[broken phoenix]

You can beat every raid in this game fairly easily with the blue rocket and a gjally

[scarlet ermine]

No I stopped for good pretty much

[upbeat quarry]

can you still poison his bootyhole and cheese

[alpine garnet]

linears or rockets?

[rapid jungle]

Whisper is so brain dead easy to get

[broken phoenix]

Which one?

[somber dawn]

idk i havent done that, first souls game

[rapid jungle]

Just use void hunter with lucky pants malf

[dusky wigeon]

you gotta try out spt if u haven't

[broken phoenix]

Little do you know 😊

[spice plank]

anything to make briars do more damage for linear fun 😄

[upbeat quarry]

i poisoned his bootyhole cause he didnt turn around or detect you at launch but i think they patched that

[modest bison]

yeah, rockets work well in that situation, since oryx doesnt move, so no one has to adjust themselves

[scarlet ermine]

Sword

[upbeat quarry]

2nd time posting this

did you audibly say "kekw" after posting

[modest bison]

which means lower chance of blowing up

[scarlet ermine]

I might, pat told me about it too

[gleaming hinge]

im 1 pattern away from being able to craft it, whats the ideal roll?

[broken phoenix]

You can btw

[spice plank]

that's like saying using perks and surges to boost damage means the weapon doesn't do damage

[upbeat quarry]

not using it but rewind/surrounded

[dusky wigeon]

it's the eft experience but actually fun

[somber dawn]

bro no one cares

[nimble locust]

they lifted my mute

[broken phoenix]

How are you finding it

[somber dawn]

fun

[rapid jungle]

The only place I’ve used linears is to take gaze from golg

[somber dawn]

i killed margot at level 9 💀

[upbeat quarry]

now play ds3

[rapid jungle]

And I’ve only done that with special ammo lfrs

[upbeat quarry]

any sniper works btw

[modest bison]

nope, gotta stop using it for that. no linears my dude

[gleaming hinge]

nah even worse, play the original dark souls 2

[somber dawn]

i could but that game looks worse and i cant figure out where to go

[upbeat quarry]

just use legit any sniper

[full creek]

just use sucession

[pallid raft]

level 9
back when the game was good

[spice plank]

Rewind Rounds and Focused Fury for me personally

[alpine garnet]

just use forerunner

[stark lake]

...

[modest bison]

you guys literally taking every step to avoid linear

[rapid jungle]

Yeah I use snipers since they are a lot better

[broken phoenix]

Gangster. Margit is probably the hardest boss for the level you fight the boss at.

[modest bison]

even if it means going out of the way

[spice plank]

what's up

[stark lake]

because they're useless

[rapid jungle]

If only there was a reason for that

[stark lake]

oh nothing

[gleaming hinge]

interesting, does it outperform cataclysmic, or is it pretty similar?

[upbeat quarry]

cause using an exotic to take gaze instead of using a sniper and tractor/bastion is mickey

[versed forge]

Theyre trashh

[full creek]

because they are ass and for everything a linear does whisper does better

[pallid raft]

I've tried to use liners multiple times and it just does not compete with certain exceptions

[modest bison]

you literally just said you use linears. what are you talkin about

[somber dawn]

yes, cause they are ass

?

[spice plank]

rewind and focused fury on the 3 burst means you get tons of ammo back in your mag and the focused fury buff is incredibly easy to maintain. would you say reconstruct frenzy instead?

[stark lake]

selective hearing strikes again

[rapid jungle]

For taking gaze I never use them for anything else

[somber dawn]

me when succession

[full creek]

😭

[somber dawn]

me when any sniper

[rapid jungle]

Izi works better I just felt bad for arbalest and decided to use it

[stark lake]

I would say you should use surrounded bc its the only thing that makes that thing do damage

[modest bison]

and thats the toxic behavior that leads to people leaving destiny

[stark lake]

briar no surrounded

[spice plank]

it out bursts cataclysmic, cata's strength is its ammo economy with FTTC. Cata goes for a much longer time because it gets free ammo

[rapid jungle]

It still takes 3 arbalest shots to take gaze btw

[gleaming hinge]

ah so its burst vs sustain. got it

[spice plank]

oh for sure. youre right i failed to mention surroudned

[modest bison]

bad community

[thorn yew]

its never needed

[pallid raft]

surrounded should always be the second roll you have incase there is an encounter where you can use it

[broken phoenix]

Lfrs are only good for annoying movement bosses

[modest bison]

vaulting half the content means nothing to new players

[stark lake]

omg you're so dumb

[coarse ore]

They only vault past seasons

[modest bison]

i could care less to do any raid that isnt available

[spice plank]

Yeah no youre right I forgot to mention Surrounded on Briar's is amazing for fights you can use that perk. Its good to have 2 briars for that reason

[modest bison]

i dont care about the strikes that arent available

[spice plank]

rewind rounds and focused fury, which was my first suggestion (partially b/c i forgot about surrounded)

[stark lake]

@scarlet ermine thoughts?

[thorn yew]

don't use it without surrounded

[alpine garnet]

imagine not caring of CoS

[modest bison]

Ian, go work on your report. its probably all you got going for you

[broken phoenix]

You are the lowest common denominator of players

[pallid raft]

how about the tangled shore?

[modest bison]

go speedrun some stuff

[rapid jungle]

Bro if you leave d2 because someone said to use a rocket over a linear that’s sad

[modest bison]

no, i am the majority lmfao, i am a newer player

[rapid jungle]

Apparently people can’t hear good advice

[spice plank]

I just like me LFR action

[stark lake]

really got me there, considering I'm better in and out of d2 than you I'm not too worried

[rapid jungle]

How many hours

[modest bison]

probably a fraction of a fraction of what you have

[rapid jungle]

How many

[spice plank]

Having to use Sleeper for Nez Pantheon was amazing. b/c lfr's are my fave weapon

[pallid raft]

he thinks everyone will kick him if he uses a linear in a sherpa and cannot argue back proper

[modest bison]

idk, like 400?

[versed forge]

Rip

[wanton halo]

does the unlimited time bug on zero hour legend work still

[rapid jungle]

And your giving advice and sherpaing?

[wanton halo]

• how do u do it

[modest bison]

i dont use linears. i tell others to use linears when they keep dying

[pallid raft]

iirc it was also because if the engine rebuild

[rapid jungle]

I have like 800 hours

[spare gorge]

anybody know if the rhulk chesse still works?

[modest bison]

and it works just fine

[rapid jungle]

It does

[spice plank]

in pantheon it does

[broken phoenix]

Newer players are the not majority of players

[pallid raft]

just tell them to stop moving in the well

[civic kettle]

give them some time and theyll eventually figure out how to stop dying

[rapid jungle]

Why would they patch it if panth leaves in 3 days

[tame forum]

ermmmmmongus

[modest bison]

cause i understand the raid mechanics. what do you think a sherpa does?

[versed forge]

Progress checkpoint when timer at 0

[spice plank]

the rhulk cheese is a pantheon specific cheese as the encounter is different than normal rhulk

[alpine garnet]

omg the goat has arrived

[rapid jungle]

Give good advice and tell new players useful thing

[elfin plank]

Is there a channel for clan recruitment? My buddy and I are trying to find a good clan with high skill players for TFS

[stark lake]

your point is I don't wanna spend time letting people figure out how to be good so I'm gonna tell them to use something easy and bad so I can move on

[rapid jungle]

Like don’t move in a well

[rapid jungle]

https://discord.com/channels/356833056562348042/1238999994002968576

[broken phoenix]

#clan-recruitment #salvation’s-edge

[modest bison]

you keep saying "in a well", as if thats the situation where its an actual issue

[elfin plank]

Your the best, couldn't find it

[spice plank]

Yeah now no one will ever say "in a well" again with Song of Flame 😉

[rapid jungle]

Or just don’t move

[scarlet ermine]

no one will ever run well again

[rapid jungle]

Since that’s the only way you’ll die with a rocket

[modest bison]

not easy when the boss moves around & you have to re-aim

[stark lake]

our lord has spoken

[spice plank]

yeah yall are giving outdated advice get with the times

[tidal aspen]

everyone will lol, it got buffed

[pallid raft]

it's not about money in gamedev, it's about time and bungies time management is awful

[spice plank]

tbf i do love the well buff

[tidal aspen]

aside from day 1 maybe, who tf dies in this game

[mystic flame]

🙄

[scarlet ermine]

bzzt wrong

[spice plank]

but radiance is so easy to acquire all the time anyway

[rapid jungle]

That’s hard to do with lfrs to 💀

[tidal aspen]

noppeeee read the changes and think

[modest bison]

you wont die from it

[broken phoenix]

Thus Saith The Lord 🤲

[spice plank]

is it 15 seconds of radiance after leaving well?

[rapid jungle]

Name a boss that moves around like that

[spice plank]

i forgot, either way amazing change

[broken phoenix]

Pretty sure it’s 82

[spice plank]

lmfaooo

[pallid raft]

no way you should be moving other than looking around during nezzy

[rapid jungle]

lol

[modest bison]

WHAT? name a boss that moves around??

[rapid jungle]

Yes

[modest bison]

do you even raid?

[versed forge]

[rapid jungle]

Nah you give me a boss and I’ll tell you how to solve the issue

[pallid raft]

rhulk, nezzy (which can be cheesed)

[broken phoenix]

2 bosses in this entire game move in raid

[modest bison]

lets hear em

[untold scroll]

rhulk and nezarec both move afaik

[spice plank]

dont like all the GOS bosses move

[modest bison]

okay, warpriest

[full creek]

rhulk and nez are it really

and ye wp

[stark lake]

"move"

[broken phoenix]

Rhulk and Nez. ( Nez can be stopped by standing on a plate)

[pallid raft]

huh?? delaying content doesn't get them more money what are you on about?

[rapid jungle]

Nez you just stand at the back of a plate

[full creek]

harpy ig too

[versed forge]

Ir yut

[full creek]

but he just moves back in a straight line

[modest bison]

nez still teleports and moves left to right

[untold scroll]

the boss moves, not you

[versed forge]

She got 0 health tho

[pallid raft]

taking two steps left isn't really much

[modest bison]

still gotta re-aim

[rapid jungle]

She gets one phased by outbreak perfected

[untold scroll]

^

[broken phoenix]

Then you are doing it wrong

[stark lake]

you're acting like re-aiming is a long process

[pallid raft]

re-aiming does not involve moving

[alpine garnet]

brakion should become the most chunky raid boss

[versed forge]

Outbreak 💀

[stark lake]

it takes 0.1 seconds

[iron dome]

Banner of war should've been a solar warlock aspect tbh

[spice plank]

lets not pretend TFS raid every boss isn't gonna be "Mobility, The Last Disciple"
They nerfed Divinity for this reason alone.

[untold scroll]

re-aiming is the easiest thing ever

[iron dome]

Cure x2 around you

[untold scroll]

idk why you'd use it as a point

[modest bison]

you're acting like you read 2 words of ths convo and think you have value to add

[untold scroll]

warlocks have enough
give warlocks a dps super

bring back chaos reach fr

[stark lake]

you've been here the whole time and have nothing of value to add so idk what your point is

[versed forge]

Real

[mystic flame]

Everyone arguing about LFR and Rockets not realizing we’re about to be in a sword meta 😭

[broken phoenix]

The final shape is the hammer and sickle. You will be forced into the fields

[versed forge]

Strandlock exists

[untold scroll]

give them another one

[versed forge]

😲

[iron dome]

Am I wrong? Why did strand titan get a healing support aspect over the support subclass

[spice plank]

They also nerfed Lament solely for this artifact

[modest bison]

when you re-aim, you might hit one of those people who were standing still, Ian

[versed forge]

Nova

[pallid raft]

players want new content more than old content, sure you can argue money but it's moreso about time, gamedev takes a while

[alpine garnet]

hearthshadow gonna hit hard

[somber dawn]

except for like every boss that a sword cant be used on

[stark lake]

how bad are you

[untold scroll]

mid

[rapid jungle]

I think it’s gonna be a GL meta like someone else said because edge transit is void and there’s a void debuff thing in the artifact

[modest bison]

that seems like very basic common sense

[pallid raft]

no???

[somber dawn]

so like all of them

[modest bison]

you keep projecting this onto me, as if im the one actually using linears lmfao

[mystic flame]

Nah for Salvations Edge

[untold scroll]

you have a skill issue possibly

[broken phoenix]

Because bosses are known to teleport completely behind you.

[modest bison]

go work on your report

[versed forge]

Real they shouldve just turned warlock into a support role type

[sinful hemlock]

There’s no way this still going on 😭

[somber dawn]

aint no one using a sword on contest mode

[iron dome]

I can't wait to use red death tbh. It looks like a goated weapon

[mystic flame]

Argent Sword

[spice plank]

who wants to bet we're gonna have a boss the size of the Toland orb, including that it just flies around like a mosquito

[untold scroll]

same

[versed forge]

Still a dmg super

[mystic flame]

Just watch

[sinful hemlock]

Bro really fighting this rocket new player argument till he dies

[iron dome]

Nah, just solar should've had support focus

[versed forge]

Makes sense tbf

[spice plank]

we do with restoration and cure grenades

[iron dome]

Just like void hunter is supposed to be support

[versed forge]

Resto cure etc

[modest bison]

its still goin cause everyone resorts to "stop being bad at the game", neglecting newer players

[untold scroll]

solar is basically the class with the most sustain rn

[broken phoenix]

Ngl I’d rather get new weapons than all the d1 weapons again

[untold scroll]

they're really pushing strand titan now with wishful ignorance though

[rapid jungle]

Why don’t they make solar warlock 100% support and buff the offense of the other subclasses (warlock)

[pallid raft]

@modest bison explain how aiming higher than everyone else's height while nobody is moving results in you hitting another person

[sharp aurora]

Fr
Solar is heal
Void is overshield
And arc is??

[untold scroll]

and the rocket chest piece

[iron dome]

Uhuh, yeah uhuh. Updating d1 weapons makes them new weapons

[spice plank]

I hope bungie really gives us the hardest boss we've ever had by giving us an enemy the size of Toland Orb, who also moves around

[rapid jungle]

Sometimes overshiel

[alpine garnet]

is wipe

[iron dome]

In what context?

[broken phoenix]

There’s legitimately 4 players that come with each new dlc. This game doesn’t bring in new players

[versed forge]

Arc is used for atraks tc thats it

[mystic flame]

Arc is Amplified 😭

[pallid raft]

I get it

[untold scroll]

arc is loss

[sharp aurora]

💀😭

[modest bison]

because when you're new, there are nerves, so aiming above everyone while still hitting the boss isn't going to be guarenteed

[rapid jungle]

What healing

[untold scroll]

amplified should work like unrelenting ngl

[gleaming hinge]

120 games of gambit later im free 'finally got the damn roll'

[rapid jungle]

Heal clip?

[sharp aurora]

What do you get arc overshield and/ or healing from

[untold scroll]

kill x amount of enemies and get a progressive heal bonus

[broken phoenix]

Red death still does the same thing even if they’ve changed it slightly

[modest bison]

chances are, they're gonna slip and blow themselves up

[iron dome]

But yeah it's weird how bungie avoids making well designed and on element solar warlock aspects

[rapid jungle]

W TAKE OMG

[spice plank]

Red Death catalyst 100000% gonna be Restoration to the team

[iron dome]

And then they give what would be a great aspect to something else

[broken phoenix]

Good. They’ll learn

[full creek]

literally

[pallid raft]

I was new and raided and I never had this problem, yes people got blown up but we never wiped because of it

[rapid jungle]

The boss ain’t throwing banana peels who tf is slipping in dps

[untold scroll]

it would synergize great with how most arc subclasses work

except warlock

[sharp aurora]

Generally

[untold scroll]

but stormcaller is already in the bin

unfortunately
chaos reach also sucks

[full creek]

funny tech hehehehe

[modest bison]

yeah ik, which is why i asked "is it worth wiping multiple times just to have best dps? or should something else be used to focus more on mechanics?"

[rapid jungle]

Turn stormcaller into pre nerf hoil

[sharp aurora]

Solar restoration and cure
Void overshield is literally the buff name

[untold scroll]

replaced by thundercrash

[modest bison]

but everyone here is "no excuse, use meta, be good"

[sinful hemlock]

Nerfed bubble, buffed strand with an exotic. Its truly over

[rapid jungle]

Who is wiping?

[untold scroll]

i remember geomags chaos reach

[somber dawn]

ill watch people use rockets

[pallid raft]

no they're not, your ignoring the ones that aren't that

[spice plank]

best raid

[broken phoenix]

You aren’t doing mechanics during dps generally

[full creek]

how tf are you wiping multiple times

[fallen tiger]

Yo, anyone read 'Items Being Deprecated at the Start of Year 7'?? Are they deleting our saved up mementos at the start of final shape??

[sharp aurora]

Yea I’m also talking from just warlock experience here
Ther is nothing

[pallid raft]

based

[spice plank]

Bungie needs to give us Argos back

[full creek]

just izi gl rocket and problem solved

[untold scroll]

well i think its less use meta and not use blatantly horrible options

[sharp aurora]

Healing rift???

[modest bison]

literally 2 people who have agreed that you dont need to rely on meta

[rapid jungle]

With gjally it’s so free

[spice plank]

did you read the article? it specifically covers memontoes lol

[pallid raft]

yes and I was one of those two people

[modest bison]

the other 20 people are on the same "get good. who wants to help me lower my pb?"

[untold scroll]

idk if i want anyone running fist of havoc because they're an "off meta goat" ngl

ngl even in pvp it's bad

[spice plank]

You dont need to rely on the top 1% meta stuff, correct

[pallid raft]

your ignoring my points and just say "muh nerves" people don't look at the ground and shoot a rocket because of nerves

[gleaming hinge]

arc warlock has the arc buddies, and thats....it.

[rapid jungle]

Why would you not want new players to learn what weapons are good and to improve

[sharp aurora]

Wait they should give arc warlock blink as well
And make astrocyte jolt nearby enemies if arc and destabilize if void

[untold scroll]

storm trance is such a bad super

[spice plank]

I'll go kill Oryx with Lumina, its nbd

[iron dome]

I won't deny its bad cus arc is bad. But it's probably the best designed aspect wise

[sharp aurora]

Would be so cool tbh

[rapid jungle]

Solar buddies in TFS

[spice plank]

use what you want

[rapid jungle]

void buddies rn as well

[untold scroll]

if arc had some dr or sustain it would be fine

[iron dome]

The only problem is how heavily it relies on electrostatic mind

[tacit ledge]

subsistence incandescent on the new support auto rifle gg

[gleaming hinge]

im keen for prismatic with arcane needle/slide arc melee and solar buddy

[untold scroll]

the issue is that it just doesn't have anything lol

[modest bison]

my guy blaz, im sorry if i didnt realize it. i dont recall when you mentioned anything about newer players not using the meta so they can focus on raid mechanics

[fallen tiger]

That's why I'm asking, I don't understand their first point on memento's....

[sharp aurora]

During the arc focus season it was meta and so fun

Cough cough strand Titan on warlock

[pallid raft]

how has the meta got anything to do with raid mechanics? what?

[modest bison]

my whole point is that weapons arent trash just cause they arent meta

[untold scroll]

people be sad about arc but forget spec blades and nova are dead in a ditch and bubble is about to join them

[iron dome]

It's just a shame arc can be reduced to jolt and nothing else

[frigid hatch]

Meta is more loose than people think... Just farm edge transit with envious bns and do not use proximity if it rolls

[rapid jungle]

That can be true but it still doesn’t meat lfrs are good

[untold scroll]

strandlock is literally just voidlock but better

[sharp aurora]

Best dmg but it’s so hard to upkeep

[modest bison]

because if people are dying from rockets & GLs, even after reminders, should switch them

[broken phoenix]

Bubble has been dead for 2 years

[modest bison]

that way the focus can be put on the raid

[untold scroll]

imo it's been dead since well dropped

[spice plank]

No they aren't deleting your momentos

[sharp aurora]

Strand warlock that is similar to strand Titan

[gleaming hinge]

time to throw gambit memento on this breakneck

[pallid raft]

you didnt answer it, tell me how vow symbols are tied to what weapons you use

[rapid jungle]

Or they should listen to the advice being given and stop dying

[broken phoenix]

No. Weapons of light used to be better than radiant so it was used

[untold scroll]

ngl
i like running pyrogales maul more than strand titan because strand is kinda boring

[modest bison]

they have their use-case, which tbh i think that makes them good in their own sense. its an alternative

[spice plank]

Weapons of Light is better than Radiant, still today

[modest bison]

nerves..

[verbal field]

it isn't

[night quest]

I have a small clan community looking for new member to join pm me if ur interested

[sharp aurora]

Grapple melee with 1 2 punch and the grenade buff exotic

[iron dome]

Not anymore

[untold scroll]

eh i thnk well was still better because yknow you could shoot through it in dps phase

[modest bison]

when you are stressed, you slip up. it happens

[broken phoenix]

They are both 25%

[gleaming hinge]

weapons is the banner shield right? 40%?

[spice plank]

Wait what!

[broken phoenix]

No

[sharp aurora]

600k per punch‼️

[rapid jungle]

Shouldn’t happen 5x in a row

[pallid raft]

I have done way more sherpas than you, nobody is that nervious

[untold scroll]

while bubble had to be placed back and you needed to run in and out constantly to reapply it

[spice plank]

i thought 40%!

[gleaming hinge]

im a fool. im confusing the 2 titan buffs.

[iron dome]

Bungie brainrot decided a super that you can't shoot through needed to loose the damage buff unless you use an exotic

[modest bison]

they arent. but wiping many times holds back the raid

[rapid jungle]

Especially in sherpa runs where it should be clear it’s ok to mess up

[gleaming hinge]

one from bubble is 25%, one from behind the big shield is 40%

[spice plank]

Oh okay gotcha

[fallen tiger]

I read it dude, I just don't get what they mean with a one time consumable, that will appear unlocked on any craft able weapon.

[untold scroll]

tbf at least you have a reason to run helm now

[pallid raft]

you are going to wipe many times during a sherpa, do you not understand that fact?

[rapid jungle]

They should learn confidence

[broken phoenix]

Weapons of light is from bubble which is 25%. Shooting through a bannershield gives you 40%

[untold scroll]

other than the drip ofc

[iron dome]

They should make it 40% again if they're making you run an exotic

[untold scroll]

honestly fair ig

[broken phoenix]

This would kill bannershield

[iron dome]

Bubble will never be a survivability super

[untold scroll]

but now we have prismatic

[still nova]

you clearly didnt play between forsaken until shadowkeep, bubble used to stack with well and then after that, bubble had higher dmg buff so the meta was to dip into it for dmg then go back to well for invincibility

[modest bison]

that doesnt mean the wipes during a sherpa should be due to 1 or 2 people being unable to use explosives properly

[broken phoenix]

They should just make no radiant in well imo

[gleaming hinge]

they cant, since you get it too. since banner shield has you out of the fight holding the shield up thats why its a higher buff

[iron dome]

Bannershield died 2 weeks after last wish launched

[rapid jungle]

Then learn how to use explosives

[untold scroll]

I actually did not, I quit a little after Forsaken, came back during Beyond and quit again within the first few missions lol

[spice plank]

Oh sorry I put beneath it that it wont be deleting your momentos, as your original question was "are they deleting our saved momentos at the start of final shape"

[iron dome]

Bannershield is worse than well due to team total damage

[modest bison]

or dont raid? thats silly

[rapid jungle]

No it’s not

[modest bison]

when other weapons work just as well

[iron dome]

And the last time Bannershield was useful for blocking damage was rivens breath

[modest bison]

yes, it is, cause thats meta.......

[broken phoenix]

Bannershield is still used in a lot more runs. Instead of just killing more stuff they should do good balancing

[rapid jungle]

Learn what is good to use and helps the team the most

[modest bison]

if rockets get a huge nerf, or some new weapon comes in....

[iron dome]

They should've killed well

[still nova]

? bannershield helps total dmg because the banner titan has full ammo, plus a larger multiplier means higher total dmg

[spice plank]

Sure, is one method better than the other as a baseline? Yes
Does that make everything else nonviable/useless? No

[rapid jungle]

Then grenade launchers

[modest bison]

if the meta changes, then we gotta teach em that?

[iron dome]

It has no reason to have a damage buff

[rapid jungle]

Yes

[cursive lava]

why no category for warlord's ruin, where do I look?

[modest bison]

no, we focus on the raid mechanics

[broken phoenix]

I agree the nerf wasn’t sufficient

[gleaming hinge]

still find it funny back when ursa gave you a load of super so youd go into pvp and just hold right click and run into people

[rapid jungle]

Dungeon

[spice plank]

@cursive lava #dungeons

[modest bison]

nope. its about learning the raid

[iron dome]

Bannershiekd doesn't get to use that ammo

[modest bison]

everything else is passive

[rapid jungle]

Which comes with what is meta for that raid

[modest bison]

sure, try to get em to learn. but dont hold it up due to it

[rapid jungle]

Like swords are meta for crota

[iron dome]

Larger multiplier doesn't mean more total damage if you lose 17% of that damage

[still nova]

when you run out? and if you run 2 2 2 in classes you can rotate w other titan

[verbal field]

if you're teaching a raid you are also teaching the most used damage strategies otherwise you're not a good sherpa

[fallen tiger]

Alr alr mb didn't see BCS of the sheer amount of messages lol

[rapid jungle]

^

[modest bison]

at a higher level, yeah. when you're ready to grind. and of course i still tell em what the meta is

[spice plank]

Even with learned Raids, once you learn the raid and can do it comfortably you can swap to LFR's or something else to use

[gleaming hinge]

sherpa runs when i rock up with a thunderlord for dps

[still nova]

? you are confusing total dmg and dps

[rapid jungle]

You don’t need to grind rockets are not hard to get

[modest bison]

but im not gonna sit there for hours while someone is trying to get familiar with damage meta, when there are 3-4 others waiting

[still nova]

banner shield has less dps cuz u lose some1

[iron dome]

To make even you'd need a 20% buff at least

[pallid raft]

why are you wiping because of one person dying? please explain that

[rapid jungle]

F2P players can get the best rocket in the game easily

[modest bison]

its about teaching raid mechanics

[broken phoenix]

@modest bison bro shut up man Jesus no one agrees with you

[modest bison]

because not everyone in the team is experienced?

[modest bison]

some do, you dont

[iron dome]

It's 40% right?

[spice plank]

if Dipped is the person saying you dont need to use rockets/gl's in raids, I agree

[modest bison]

i am

[pallid raft]

no that doesn't answer the question, you should never wipe because a single person died during an encounter

[mighty geyser]

It's insane that after kicking the habit and remaining destiny-free for over a year, I can drop in a chat like this and still understand the references and context.

I'm seriously considering jumping back in...

[spice plank]

You dont need to run meta to do fine. Raids aren't that hard to begin with, 3 people on the team can use sub-par loadouts and you'll still pass easily.

[broken phoenix]

He’s arguing that you shouldn’t even try to use them in case you die with newer players

[iron dome]

So that's a 30% increase in total damage right?

[rapid jungle]

You should d2 is great rn

[modest bison]

thats not true. it depends on the encounter. if the guy with buff during warpriest dies, thats usually a wipe during a sherpa

[iron dome]

Am I getting this right?

[pallid raft]

he is also wiping in sherpas when a single person dies

[modest bison]

i didnt say that

[full creek]

id rather one phase then "pass"

[modest bison]

never said that, would never suggest "dont try"

[gleaming hinge]

thats a little funny

[broken phoenix]

He’s not arguing that you don’t need to use them he’s arguing that new players are so incompetent they can’t stand still to not kill each over

[rapid jungle]

I’m done this argument is going on too long

[modest bison]

nope

[full creek]

dont

[iron dome]

If its 40% then that's 700% instead of 600%

[modest bison]

you are literally putting words in my mouth & changing my point

[iron dome]

What do radiant and well give again?

[spice plank]

well is 25%

[broken phoenix]

You know that’s not what I wanna put in there and you know it

[gleaming hinge]

same buff, 25%

[untold scroll]

like 25% damage bonus

[full creek]

25%

[untold scroll]

well also grants dr and heals iirc

[modest bison]

if rockets/gls causes wipes during sherpas, then its better to switch than to sit there for hours waiting for them to get familiar with rockets/gls

[iron dome]

Ok so 25%. 125×6 750%

[broken phoenix]

HOURS

[iron dome]

It's not good enough. Banner isn't worth it

[gleaming hinge]

well is like 40% DR from enemies, 30% DR on bosses and 100 hp/s

[untold scroll]

man being a sherpa is about teaching

[rapid jungle]

How hard is it to get familiar with rockets bruh

[modest bison]

YES

[pallid raft]

rockets and gls never cause wipes, res the person and continue

[untold scroll]

also nobody commits suicide with gls and rockets for hours

[iron dome]

You deal less damage with bannershield

[gleaming hinge]

least till final shape, then its flat 10% DR and 50 hp/s

[broken cliff]

Damn
Theres really 5 days left of this season

[modest bison]

once again, that toxic "get good"

[untold scroll]

lol

[broken cliff]

I didnt got around to do pantheon

[spice plank]

dam, i wish it did more 😦

[untold scroll]

it's not toxic it's just a fact

[broken phoenix]

My man is playing with Steven hawking

[rapid jungle]

It’s really not that toxic or difficult

Just stand away it’s kinda common sense

[spice plank]

Bannershield is so cool of a super, completely selfless it should do way more than that

[broken phoenix]

It doesn’t take hours for people to learn not to move in a well my man

[untold scroll]

it's not an insult to say git gud unless you are offended by admitting that you're bad at something
at which point the problem is you

[modest bison]

not allowed to be new?

[pallid raft]

if you disagree with him your toxic

[rapid jungle]

Being close with an explosion will kill you

That’s super basic

[modest bison]

you're actinf like nerves arent involved

[untold scroll]

you're tossing this into a diff playing field man, stop running into diff arguments

[gleaming hinge]

the idea behind it is great, would be cool if more encounters took advantage of it

[iron dome]

It's 700% damage aka a 16.5% increase against 750% damage a 25% increase

[broken phoenix]

Bro what

[pallid raft]

they aren't during dps!

[stark lake]

its just not stressful

[untold scroll]

people hearing git gud isnt an insult

[broken phoenix]

Nerves

[alpine garnet]

chat, linears or rockets?

[modest bison]

yeah, and when people say "use rockets while standing right next to all your teammates, while the boss moves around"

[spice plank]

for sure

[untold scroll]

if you feel insulted you are just insecure

[modest bison]

"also, dont die, make sure you have ammo, check your buffs"

[untold scroll]

rockets 10/10

i need my apex predator

[somber dawn]

chat this is the longest bait ive ever seen

[spice plank]

You'd think with encounters that require mobility like Rhulk that Bannershield would thrive

[broken phoenix]

Who is nervous about a destiny 2

[rapid jungle]

That’s what raids are

[pallid raft]

boss moving around has got nothing to do with anything unless we are talking about rhulk

[rapid jungle]

That’s all raiding is

[untold scroll]

that's basic advice my man
people will learn based on that and eventually they won't die and make sure to have ammo & buffs
its not rocket science

[rapid jungle]

You’ve described raiding

[gleaming hinge]

oh no not destiny 2 2

[modest bison]

aight, so you dont care to actually contribute, you just wanna make it seem like everyone should be good at destiny from the get-go

[iron dome]

To match well and radiant bannershield would need a 50% buff to your teammates

[untold scroll]

you're acting butthurt for no reason lol

[broken phoenix]

Raiding is legitimately supposed to be the hardest content

[modest bison]

yup, a lot goes into it

[iron dome]

No it's not

[spice plank]

You'd think those mobile boss encounter would love bannershield, that's a part of its core strength is a roaming Well, more or less

[hard patio]

yo

[gleaming hinge]

high end maybe, hardest? naaaah

[broken phoenix]

But it’s supposed to be

[iron dome]

It's not

[rapid jungle]

Gms

[broken phoenix]

It’s branded as such

[modest bison]

so would i rather have people dying over best damage? or switching to a weapon where they have a lower chance of dying, but can still put out enough damage?

[spice plank]

Gm's are meant to be the hardest content

and Contest Mode for Raids I suppose

[quasi sierra]

guys whats the hardest raid in all D2

[iron dome]

Raids are supposed to be the most coordinated content

[pallid raft]

I would rather you help them learn the game and teach them like an actual sherpa would

[untold scroll]

id rather they learn the best weapon instead of indulging in scrub mentality and giving themselves no room to grow as a player because of comfort

[rapid jungle]

Who is dying just tell them to not move and don’t shoot when enemies are close

[still nova]

it is known that banner gives less dps, but teams are still gonna use it in day 1 for total dmg + survivability if theres like a morgeth/templar situation

[spice plank]

Oh sorry I thought you said Best Raid

[iron dome]

Seasonal content this year has honestly been harder than raids

[rapid jungle]

These are not difficult concepts

[quasi sierra]

what's that

garden??

[peak nova]

You can be “not good” or new and still not be shaking in your boots over a destiny raid 😭😭 like why are your only options Snazzy Rock or having a panic attack over learning a raid

[gleaming hinge]

i remember spire of stars being annoying for some people. as for current raids? beats me

[modest bison]

yeah, and have the other 3-4 people who know how to use rockets, but just wanna learn the raid, wait?

its a raid sherpa

[iron dome]

Rn or in their prime?

[untold scroll]

idk if its a skill issue but mechanically i think the hardest time ive had was vow of the disciple due to the symbols and shii
D2 Crota's is also pretty challenging

[pallid raft]

it's eater of worlds

[broken phoenix]

Bungie just calls it the same. Whether or not it is a different story. A fresh out of the cosmodrome player isn’t hopping into VoW

[spice plank]

no sorry, I was having a laugh. It a retired raid no longer in the game 😦

It was very unique

[quasi sierra]

Rn

[modest bison]

it teaches the raid. if you can passively teach other things, then yeah. i always mention the meta. but to hold up a sherpa just so someone can practice best damage...

[untold scroll]

bro
everyone is there to learn
as a sherpa you teach everyone everything

[spice plank]

Eater of Worlds should still be around, but its not 😦

[quasi sierra]

oooh ok

[untold scroll]

learning to raid is learning to use the best weapons for dps and such

[spice plank]

I just miss it 😦

[broken phoenix]

So should every raid

[quasi sierra]

thx

[untold scroll]

its not just mechanics and puzzles

[still nova]

and to call out something you can see that others cannot

[modest bison]

if one guy cant aimt right, dont sit there waiting for them to get it right. dont go through a phase just to have to wipe & let them practice again

[spice plank]

guys dont worry that one lady said this new GM strike will make us wanna quit

[modest bison]

switch their weapon

[rapid jungle]

Then learn to aim

[verbal field]

(this is every raid in the game)

[stark lake]

what??? that's what you're there for. people to learn

[modest bison]

during the raid??

[rapid jungle]

Who is playing video games and is struggling to aim that horribly

[untold scroll]

are you teaching them to play the game or are you just there so you can call yourself a sherpa

[modest bison]

to learn the raid mechanics, yeah

[modest bison]

teaching raid mechanics

[still nova]

that was kind of the point yes?

[broken phoenix]

Bro which players are you carrying? Have these guys never picked up a controller before or something

[peak shard]

i cant redeem my last wish token anyone know a fix?

[modest bison]

do i really gotta spoonfeed this???

[pallid raft]

if they cannot aim they should not be raiding, it's not hard to hit raid bosses in destiny

[modest bison]

sherpaing for raids is teaching raid mechanics

[iron dome]

It'd be whichever has something relatively easy to mess up. Like RoN having nezzy reading could be it

[modest bison]

just cause they cant manage explosives? when explosives arent required?

[spice plank]

remember Prestige raids

[broken phoenix]

Thus Saith the lord

[untold scroll]

Coordination too

[rapid jungle]

No it is teaching everything about the raid so they can do the raid like how people will do it in lfg

[broken phoenix]

D1 had the best hard mode system

[pallid raft]

you have that wrong, it's teaching mechanics yes but also dps rotations, mod and subclass loadouts etc

[gleaming hinge]

any raid with a jumping puzzle, you watch the fireteam suddenly dip 50 iq points when they have to jump. every time someone complains about warlock jump

[stark lake]

so you're just not a sherpa i see

[rapid jungle]

How are you gonna sherpa a raid and have them go off using linears in everything

[iron dome]

Real

[spice plank]

I hope with the addition of Pantheon that becomes our new Hard Mode system in the future

[rapid jungle]

How are they gonna lfg for raids

[modest bison]

yes, and you teach mechanics. but if someone keeps blowing up, switch them

[gleaming hinge]

almost always a hunter main doing a second clear

[still nova]

sherpa doesnt mean this, doesnt mean sherpas cannot do this

[pallid raft]

you are a bad sherpa, you should not be teaching

[modest bison]

guess not, eh?

[rapid jungle]

Who is blowing up 24/7

[broken phoenix]

If someone keeps blowing up. Let them figure out how to not

[modest bison]

okay, you havent been listening

[spice plank]

Dont we have an anti blow up perk? is it Danger Zone?

[rapid jungle]

I mean you can’t expect much from someone with 400 hours

[modest bison]

so kick them? let em figure it out?

[gleaming hinge]

🤔

[fervent veldt]

meow

[small dawn]

👋

[broken phoenix]

The people this guys Sherpas are Deaf and Dumb

[somber dawn]

if you cant figure out how to not blow yourself up you really suck ass and shouldnt raid

[untold scroll]

bru

[broken phoenix]

No one said kick them but you

[rapid jungle]

Are you teaching tribes in Africa who don’t know what computers are

[somber dawn]

this guy is assuming people dont have fingers

[still nova]

destiny chat is so cooked lol

[gleaming hinge]

so business as usual. got it.

[mellow grove]

Very interesting chat

[broken phoenix]

Mindless robots

[untold scroll]

anyway
anyone can watch a kackis vid and understand a raid puzzle
not everyone knows whats the best loadout and how to stack buffs

[spice plank]

99% damage reduction from RL's ur welcome go have fun

[modest bison]

so now you guys are just tryin to down me, rather than focus on the actual problem lmfao

[iron dome]

I hope I get the day off next Wednesday tbh. I wanna play final shape

[pallid raft]

why are you kicking people that you are teaching?

[somber dawn]

there is no problem, you just suck ass and are coping

[gleaming hinge]

booked the first week off for it lmao

[small dawn]

havent been following the convo i just randomly saw u here lol

[modest bison]

alright nerd

[untold scroll]

he just keeps running from the argument
pure scrub mentality

[broken phoenix]

Better to get one on Thursday

[rapid jungle]

Nah they still do 1% damage we need to run linears

[modest bison]

go work on your pb

[still nova]

u see all the leaks?

[small dawn]

yessir

[modest bison]

its all you got

[iron dome]

I can't do that for this internship

I got significantly sick in april

[somber dawn]

you are either horrible at teaching or trying to sherpa level 2s

[small dawn]

raid weapons are so ass 😭

[modest bison]

ima be over here trying to actually enjoy the game, helping others get into it

[spice plank]

I'm the Linear fanboy 😄 don't say that to me 😛

[still nova]

cant wait to charge some conductors with resonance

[modest bison]

would rather be horrible at teaching than whatever tf you are lmao

[rapid jungle]

Ok sorry

[gleaming hinge]

understandable

[pallid raft]

he is just horrible at teaching, somehow worse than me

[small dawn]

edging my salvation rn

[spice plank]

you've further motivated my crusade

[modest bison]

i tell people the meta

[iron dome]

@modest bison people don't wipe from dying to their own explosions

[pallid raft]

if you cannot teach raids then don't teach them please

[broken phoenix]

What if they miss linears?

[still nova]

the sword is crazy tho, need it

[modest bison]

i dont make 3-4 others wait cause 1 guy cant stop blowing up

[rapid jungle]

Crusade?
Stardust crusade?
JOJO REFERENCE

[modest bison]

usually fine

[small dawn]

frame looks good but i do not like the lineup of the weapons at all tbh

[broken phoenix]

What if they miss linears?!?

[spice plank]

really? our weapon lineups are amazing, imo

we've never had good destination weapons like this

[somber dawn]

you already are!!

[iron dome]

Btw did a youtuber tell us if the Kvostov has the classic ornament?

[somber dawn]

youre telling people to god damn use linears!!!

[spice plank]

although shadowkeep had some good desti weapons

[somber dawn]

when there are so many better options!

[mystic scaffold]

how do i know what banshee weps will give cores when dismantles, i have to convert 9k legendary shards by TFS ...

[spice plank]

you should use them they're amazing 😄

[modest bison]

when they blow up, yes

[broken phoenix]

These people are blind! They can’t hit linear shots

[untold scroll]

i saw an ornament that looks pretty good but not the og

[still nova]

kinda hoped they would have done like 4 more weapons because i was hoping bungie would cook and make more encounters than last wish so more loot to fill them out yknow

[somber dawn]

[alpine garnet]

tlord!

[small dawn]

raid lineup

[rapid jungle]

It’s really only witherhoard and maybe 4th for speedrunning

[spice plank]

Oh, I didn't look at spoilers D:

[gleaming hinge]

im a sucker for handcannons 'as well as like 85% of the playerbase' and loud lullaby was good

[iron dome]

Why would I use a linear

[untold scroll]

when they suck, yes

[upbeat crater]

did you guys know you can access your vault from the legend lost sector start menu?

[modest bison]

idk why you're laughing at me. people are new, it happens

[broken phoenix]

These people are refuges of war! They have never seen a PC before

[spice plank]

do the raid weapon perks suck? or do they just look bad?

[small dawn]

same but its bungie lower ur expectations they will not overdeliver not even with the last dlc in the saga

[modest bison]

you may have forgetten due to the horrid amount of time you spent into perfecting the game

[rapid jungle]

I can do that anytime with dim lol

[iron dome]

Round Robin is my fav fus it's a pride flag

[civic kettle]

the weapons themselves look underwhelmingh

[small dawn]

the weapon archetypes are just mid

[untold scroll]

no actually but that's pretty useful (i just use DIM these days)

[gleaming hinge]

im hoping we get some decent 120s in tfs

[somber dawn]

you are teaching them wrong things

[spice plank]

Ohh. like none of them will be viable meta weapons?

[upbeat crater]

well duh im just saying that you can access vault from the menu for the sector on a planet

[rapid jungle]

Does anyone have a video going over all the leaks

[civic kettle]

igneous hammer:

[pallid raft]

also from helm

[spice plank]

i dont know the origin perk (and dont want to know) but is the origin good

[rapid jungle]

You can’t get it anymore in TFS

[iron dome]

When I'm in a being a negative Hag competition and my opponent is a destiny player

[small dawn]

no idea but would u like to just know the frames or nah

[alpine garnet]

bottom dollar:

[spice plank]

Nahh I was just interested if we haev good perk combos

[small dawn]

we dont know perks yet

[iron dome]

Same, currently I'd say we have maybe 3? Decent 120s

[spice plank]

Oh!

[rapid jungle]

Does anyone have a video going over all the leaks my dms are open

[gleaming hinge]

ok new 120s how bout that

[untold scroll]

insane

[spice plank]

Okay nice

[undone orbit]

is there a point to do the zero hour mission if I alr have outbreak prime?

[iron dome]

Mainly just round Robin and igneous

[somber dawn]

bro is unironically using day 1 root emblem

[untold scroll]

yes

[rapid jungle]

Yes rewind roonds

[modest bison]

how so? am i supposed to be their therapist? be able to handle their nerves to prevent the rest of the team from waiting?

[still nova]

only seen the curated roll in collections i believe

[untold scroll]

rewind rounds

[gleaming hinge]

i know the 2 burst handcannon we can craft has some interesting enough perks to go for.

[small dawn]

legend for crafting upgrades like the perks and things

[iron dome]

But ah I forgot the name of the third

[pallid raft]

the quests ada gives you

[modest bison]

i dont throw people on linears from the get-go

[somber dawn]

there are 0 nerves in raiding

[untold scroll]

outbreak with craftable traits is gonna be op

[iron dome]

Oh yeah the solstice HC

[modest bison]

thats cause you play destiny too much

[somber dawn]

if they cant stand still and dps they suck ass and shouldnt be raiding

[pallid raft]

there are nerves in raiding

[untold scroll]

it alr is but it'll be better

[iron dome]

But most 120s have bad stats or bad perks

[modest bison]

there are nerves for new players

[somber dawn]

not during dps 💀

[small dawn]

btw anyone knows if the 30 spoils from pantheon completion are farmable on the same char? or if the difficulties each give 30 in the same week

[modest bison]

yes, during all phases

[gleaming hinge]

the legend missions to get the traits instead of outlaw/upgraded traits for other mags/barrels/stocks and the ship

[pallid raft]

true I've been saying this the whole time

[untold scroll]

managing nerves is part of getting good and if you can't do that maybe hold off on raiding

[modest bison]

if you havent done the raid before, nerves dont go away once dps starts

[gleaming hinge]

its one and done. like the 3/6/9 gamemode completions for an exotic engram

[modest bison]

if you havent played destiny much, nerves dont go away. and yeah, people who havent played much can still raid

[stark lake]

literally what nerves

[pallid raft]

no but they don't impact your ability to shoot a gun

[untold scroll]

i have first timed a few raids since coming back and i wasn't a frequent player
have not been hit with nerves

[small dawn]

so 30 per week or 90 per week still dont get it lol

[untold scroll]

most anxious ive gotten was messing up timing on crota lamps

[modest bison]

try something new and youll see. such as touching grass

[gleaming hinge]

90 if you clear on every character.

[scarlet ermine]

where specifically are you getting nervous in raids?

[stark lake]

if you cant handle speaking with new people maybe you shouldn't be raiding

[somber dawn]

ur an ass sherpa

[small dawn]

whats the pressure lol, its mostly just social anxiety imo than nerves because of "dps"

[untold scroll]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[modest bison]

no nerves cause you grind the same stuff every week

[somber dawn]

you need to learn the game before trying to teach other people

[modest bison]

i know how the mechanics work

[small dawn]

ah ait gotchu

[stark lake]

no nerves because theres nothing to be nervous about

[somber dawn]

doesnt mean you can teach other people how it works

[pallid raft]

and you also need to be a good teacher with dipped isn't

[untold scroll]

mechanics arent everything

[modest bison]

i teach the mechanics just fine

[somber dawn]

surely

[spice plank]

No i didn't rankbot >.>

[untold scroll]

you teach everything else wrong

[gleaming hinge]

tbh i wouldnt know, i only ever did 1 clear on warlock each week for the title, and now im just staring into space figuring out what to do

[stark lake]

I just dont' believe this for some reason

[modest bison]

literally the only thing this topic was about is people blowing themselves up

[untold scroll]

Is the thing

[spice plank]

!!! rankbot youre literally lyiiiing

[somber dawn]

teaching ron doesnt take 1:30 everytime but here you are

[iron dome]

Exotic ornament leaks>Weapon leaks

[amber zinc]

yall are STILL on that???

[untold scroll]

idk man

[scarlet ermine]

JUNGLE??

[pallid raft]

then why do you consistently have more than 6 people in a fireteam in your raids with the most sherpas?

[rocky geyser]

I’m not taking off my Halloween mask once final shape starts

[small dawn]

i legit got nothing to do so i just wanted to know if i can farm fresh clears for spoils since its more fun than cp farm

[untold scroll]

i do like legendary weapons looking like peak

[spice plank]

with Koraxiss being an easy to acquire craftable strand GL I would have expected it to be a little more popular, and have different most popular perks.

[untold scroll]

im excited for steelfeather repeater just because it looks good

[stark lake]

belbeth

[spice plank]

Lightgg says Surrounded is 5th popular, and Full Court is 4th? Like what

[gleaming hinge]

you get 5 an encounter clear, but the 30 from hitting a score threshold is a once per character thing

[untold scroll]

not for any other reason

[iron dome]

Looking at some footage of the heavy trace rn

[modest bison]

a statement like that only comes from someone who doesnt raid with newer players. why are you even trying to contribute to this?

[untold scroll]

full court not that good anymore

[iron dome]

It could be good in GMs

[spice plank]

Right but on its available perks

[scarlet ermine]

im sitting up

[untold scroll]

you are already back to creating assumptions out of thin air to benefit your argument

[stark lake]

lock in

[modest bison]

"no ron sherpa should take 1:30, just carry them, who cares if they understand the raid"

[untold scroll]

chat is this guy a clown?

[wooden cosmos]

Bro he is still going at it

[small dawn]

ait i wont bother then

[stark lake]

always has been

[gleaming hinge]

full court needs like 1 full second of air time to get full damage, so you gotta be really far back to get it to work

[pallid raft]

how does a ron teaching take that long? if your not doing the mechanics you should be making sure there are no adds

[wooden cosmos]

At this point he’s the whole circus

[modest bison]

you gonna hear replies from the same people. what is this even doing?

[iron dome]

@modest bison I'm sending you to gambit

[spice plank]

Koraxiss I expected to be way more popular due to be easy to craft strand GL. Either using full court for the 25% damage bonus, or Surrounded. But those are both the least popular on that gun

[civic kettle]

u can skullddrag 5 people through it

[spice plank]

true, but that's only the distance of say of where you dps riven from

[modest bison]

just cause i dont expect an entire team to wait for someone to get familiar with rockets, to where i switch em to a non-explosive

all of a sudden im a clown

[scarlet ermine]

i think sherpas go a lot better if you have 1 other person who knows what to do

[small dawn]

nah thats way too little

[wooden cosmos]

So we’re 3 phasing the boss

[iron sinew]

1:30 sherpa is wild

[rocky geyser]

When did the raid spoils currency start?

[stark lake]

or one at all in his case

[scarlet ermine]

lol

[pallid raft]

why are you being impatient in a sherpa? why do you kick people so you can get sherpas done quicker?

[untold scroll]

to you, nothing, to us, asserting that your counter argument to being proven wrong is saying someone needs to touch grass cause you have no solid basis to your take

[scarlet ermine]

blind leading the blind

[spice plank]

I mean that's fair, but anything close to 1 full second will still do more than Frenzy surely

[modest bison]

i dont kick people, when did i say that?

oh wait, you're just trollin

[wooden cosmos]

Deep stone crypt

[small dawn]

imo its way too inconsistent of a roll to do anything

[stark lake]

same thing you're doing

[modest bison]

why is the comminity so toxic towards newer players?

[modest bison]

no, im saying "blows up too much? switch weapons"

[stark lake]

mmm we're not, toxic towards people like you tho

[pallid raft]

your the only one that mentions kicking people and your sherpa raid reports have 7-8 people who were involved in the raid

[modest bison]

you guys are saying "omg thats not meta, you suck at the game"

[scarlet ermine]

you know if you bait in the chat for like...6 hours youre really just playing yourself

[small dawn]

noone is toxic towards new players its mostly people who barely started the game and want to raid without even having gear yet

[final perch]

[wooden cosmos]

Yes

[pallid raft]

and your saying "omg guys I can't teach I'm a sherpa farmer"

[modest bison]

its not about "not having gear"

[small dawn]

i mean people expect endgame loadouts in the endgame content do they not?

[spice plank]

if 1 second is 25% damage, then .75 seconds is 18.75% damage bonus, still more than Frenzy for full court

but sure, even if full court isn't that great Koraxiss rolls with surrounded

[wooden cosmos]

And he doesn’t even have that many sherpas or raid clears in general

[modest bison]

i dont farm sherpas. most of my teachings are for people who have cleared it, but were carried & want to learn the mechanics

[small dawn]

surrounded is a btch to proc tho

[modest bison]

and yeah, i am still relatively new

[wooden cosmos]

That’s not a Sherpa then

[iron dome]

Did warlocks get a bad prismatic super selection?

[modest bison]

its teaching

[pallid raft]

I have more total sherpas in gos and they're also all probs div sherpas

[somber dawn]

i have 73 total sherpas, its not hard to do them

[untold scroll]

you literally suggested it like 15min ago

[stark lake]

which is not a sherpa

[wooden cosmos]

Then why are you teaching people when you know nothing

[spice plank]

Yes and no

[modest bison]

when?

[deep dune]

I mean, they didn't get well

[scarlet ermine]

they get the new solar one maybe its good

[somber dawn]

they also just dont blow themselves up

[iron dome]

I can see myself using all the hunter and titan supers on prismatic but I can't see myself using warlock stasis and arc on prismatic

[untold scroll]

i think this guy is baiting and should be ignored

[wanton halo]

One for thrall on necrochasm is refreshable during its duration. Bro.

[stark lake]

I have faith in it

[small dawn]

its just replacement for well imo cause it gives dr%

[somber dawn]

he unironically uses day 1 root emblem

[wanton halo]

Infinite 35% damage buff necrochasm is gonna COOOK

[small dawn]

or more like combining it with well*

[modest bison]

i know the mechanics, i know the meta. people blow themselves up, so i switch em after a couple deaths

[livid breach]

Aight the Onslaught Legend LFG roulette sucks, do I just do 1-10 Legend farm or 1-50 normals?

[wooden cosmos]

It was a day 2 clear as well

[spice plank]

with the way song of flame works it may be quite good, especially with Apotheosis.
and it depends if song of flame grenades can be used for Stasis Turrets

[modest bison]

you guys are just being toxic

[wooden cosmos]

So we’re trolling teams

[pallid raft]

your not teaching them

[modest bison]

trolling?

[spice plank]

Warlock Prismatic with Apotheosis can create so many stasis turrets
maybe song of flame contributes to that

[iron dome]

Song of flame is meta that's already known purely off grenade rocket dps

[untold scroll]

you're a fraud bro

[wooden cosmos]

If people are dying due to lack of skill, you find a new team

[small dawn]

it might just be mid since you are spamming nades with woven mail damage resist value its nothing too crazy unless the scorch it gives is buffed or smth

[modest bison]

so you're saying i should have them keep using rockets, even if they blow themselves up?

[civic kettle]

i think that means the person in question should learn how to shoot a rocket more

[merry saddle]

is malfeasance good for gms aint done one ina while?

[pallid raft]

no I am not being toxic I love helping and sherpaing people through raids but what you state is more idiotic than people saying gos tethers are bugged

[wooden cosmos]

Either that or find a new team

[modest bison]

i didnt say i kicked. i was asking what they would recommend i do

[amber zinc]

yea its well and good

[spice plank]

song of flame does have solar weapons put more scorch out iirc

[modest bison]

you're the fraud bud

[somber dawn]

kick them if they cant figure out how to shoot a rocket

[small dawn]

i mean u can just run a fragment instead of a super and do the same