💬destiny-chat

[vapid elk]

final stand is a literal minute

it takes 20 seconds per plate with 0 health gating or anything

[iron dome]

the issue isn't running out of time the issue is dealing damage and getting booted from a plate

[vapid elk]

like explic is so easy

[dusk zealot]

is the chamber of starlight lost sector bugged

[bright tartan]

what should the garden origin trait be

[shadow jackal]

300 is foul

[dusk zealot]

ascendant challenge portal and the boss aint spawning

[iron dome]

So if you don't shoot at the same time you deal way less

[subtle pagoda]

average lfgs too activate plates early and also die to fire tornado

[spiral grove]

winning hand + pale heart handcanon w/ headstone/dragonfly will go crazy

[reef coyote]

When the cart is empty but you a fiend so you start puffing on straight technology

[vapid elk]

puffin straight motherboard

[broken phoenix]

When you kill enemies you become more nationalistic

[stiff galleon]

i forgot, is the new agg frame mg solar

[shadow jackal]

hello

[spiral grove]

strand

[stiff galleon]

lame

[vapid elk]

hello chalice

[subtle pagoda]

Is rhulk still cheeseable?

[iron dome]

Skill issue. they should be more like me and miss a rocket then hit a rocket on immunes

[bright tartan]

also how did bungie make a 140 hc bad

[reef coyote]

Chiefing on graphics card

[spice plank]

Will this not work like in the past where I can go claim season pass items after the season has concluded?

[spiral grove]

the seasonal lmg is solar i think

[iron dome]

120s>140s

[bright tartan]

like the garden hand cannon literally had everything going for it but bungie still managed to make it bad

[vapid elk]

yea they cant fix it because they had to change the sky box for the clone

[stiff galleon]

i didnt see that one, what frame is it

[spiral grove]

idk

[bright tartan]

why is rhulk cheesable on pantheon but not normal

[iron dome]

it's the tail end of y2 sandbox

[scarlet ermine]

They don't want us to have a good solar machine gun

[subtle pagoda]

Had someone run in front of me and then he revived me only for him to shoot me while i spawned in front of him

[broken phoenix]

It’s harder to cheese rhulk than to just 2 phase him

[iron dome]

right after shadowkeep release they significantly changed how big perk pools were

[vapid elk]

shut up everyone shoreline mafia is playing

[spiral grove]

they altered how rhulk's navigation works to account for the shadow clone

[bright tartan]

y2 sandbox was bungie's dumbest idea yet tbh. "what if we gave every weapon bad perks" uhh then nobody uses them, thats what

[stiff galleon]

unwavering is good but mgs arent so prominent that id subject myself to trials for it

[subtle pagoda]

Yeah i 2 phased him my friend was asking if he was cheesable and apparently he got it first try

[vapid elk]

i love that server

[sinful hemlock]

me too

[bright tartan]

"what if no weapons had damage perks" then nobody farms for them and we just use recluse, next question

[vapid elk]

I WANNA SHARE MY SPOTIFY LINK 🙁

[scarlet ermine]

I miss when you could just mountaintop recluse anarchy every situation

[subtle pagoda]

Also the raid music better be immaculate

[bright tartan]

the bow is the only garden weapon worth getting, everything else is just there

[sinful hemlock]

Daaamn they took away spotify links thats tough

[spiral grove]

i mean

[bright tartan]

i think the fusion was good in pvp for a bit

[bright tartan]

return to tradition

[stark lake]

Buzz lightyear gif

[reef coyote]

@vapid elk You ever listen to iced out castles by dj smokey and black kray

[sinful hemlock]

Just needs more perks and to be craftable

[bright tartan]

yeah they reprised recluse but its just worse than funnelweb so why bother

[vapid elk]

IM TRYNA HAVE A MENAGE 🤐

[hearty bear]

shotguns not bad

[vapid elk]

probably

[sinful hemlock]

Wish weapons sucked till craftables came

[bright tartan]

oh yeah shotgun is good in pvp too

[hearty bear]

can get 90 range without rifled

[bright tartan]

actually that shotgun cooks in pvp ngl

[vapid elk]

apex when aggressive with bns and recomb

only good weapon besides maybe the sniper

[spice plank]

WAIT we don't have an auto rifle artifact perk?? Like a commentor said it's totally because of the new healing auto rifle

[sinful hemlock]

Yeah, when we could craft it exactly

[bright tartan]

i think every dsc weapon still sucks except succession

[subtle pagoda]

r they nerfing rockets in TFS

[stark lake]

???

[sinful hemlock]

The supremacy and handcanon good too

[reef coyote]

Heritage

[bright tartan]

i guess commemmoration is good if you cant get a good corrective

[vapid elk]

zaoulis😹

[scarlet ermine]

Yeah man

[bright tartan]

oh yeah i kinda forgot heratige existed

[stark lake]

Stop hating

[stiff galleon]

its better than funnelweb but not by much

[spice plank]

Yes rockets and gls and linears are getting a nerf in tfs due to boss spec leaving

[sinful hemlock]

Bro listen its ARC DIFFERENT USE I SWEAR

[stiff galleon]

better origin trait and high cal rounds makes recluse better

[vapid elk]

ian sl wsg blud

[bright tartan]

every time i see dsc i just see trustee and think "wow these guns suck" mentally

[reef coyote]

Use four bear ants

[bright tartan]

guys maybe final shape is when 180 hcs become good

[sinful hemlock]

I’m just saying its the best arc handcanon, of course use forb wtf 😭

[bright tartan]

surely

[subtle pagoda]

dsc was one of my favorite raids besides its final boss fight

[reef coyote]

I didnt get this treatment I thought we was gang 😔

[vapid elk]

keneth carson my beautiful king

[scarlet ermine]

Smgs suck if I see you on an smg you're getting -50 credit score

[sinful hemlock]

You think chain nerf gonna be big enough to use a diff perk

[bright tartan]

honestly yeah

[vapid elk]

no doesnt matter martys is coming back

[stuck mist]

my little goomba ♥

[bright tartan]

did they nerf smgs at some point because they feel useless in high light content now

[vapid elk]

no they just were always bad in high level content

[reef coyote]

Where yo racks go 🤔 oh you spent it on drugs money hoes and clothes 🤩

[scarlet ermine]

League??

[stark lake]

You’re gonna have to file for aura bankruptcy when I’m done

[subtle pagoda]

Luna with heal clip saves me though!!!

[stark lake]

I could get on sure

[bright tartan]

what about calus mini tool...

[reef coyote]

No

[subtle pagoda]

most of the time at least

[vapid elk]

😹💀

[sinful hemlock]

Succubus 🙏

[reef coyote]

Smg

[vapid elk]

president 🤭

[bright tartan]

calus personally made that mini tool for ME. i am calus's SHADOW and he LOVES me

[scarlet ermine]

Fighting is in my blood. I mean my goo

[bright tartan]

calus makes you an smg and you reject it....

[reef coyote]

Singapore 😍

[sinful hemlock]

Smgs in legend onslaught 💀

[bright tartan]

yeah but did you consider if you have calus mini tool and mida you can run like 1% faster

[scarlet ermine]

Okay I gotta restart PC to enable the Chinese spyware

[vapid elk]

i want the whole load nothing less 🤐

[undone orbit]

wil lsuperblack ever be available again after final shape drops

[stark lake]

big

[spiral grove]

no

[spice plank]

I'm so so so happy were getting season of dawn weapons back. Those were just simply the best.

[meager hatch]

does anyone want free world drops?

[bright tartan]

yeah ive always been on the bow meta tbh

[vapid elk]

i want the whole bag nothing less

[reef coyote]

Diddylonely

[bright tartan]

bows > smgs

[brazen fern]

@lilac wraith @alpine garnet ily

[sinful hemlock]

Yes but in a different way to be obtained they just never said what or when its coming

[vapid elk]

diddy or diddy not

[sinful hemlock]

Better to get it right now

[sharp frigate]

Bows are always dog water

[bright tartan]

i will find a way to make wishkeeper good. it WILL be good

[reef coyote]

Bar

[vapid elk]

They said you wouldn't amount to much @vapid elk, but you just advanced to level 38 ! So there's that.

[bright tartan]

wrong

[vapid elk]

yea exactly tghoul is in the game

[reef coyote]

Why is the rank up message so backhanded

[lilac wraith]

ilyt

[vapid elk]

every other bow tho 😭

[brazen fern]

:3

[spice plank]

Hush was an amazing bow. But outside of that the only good legendary bow is from last wish D:

[bright tartan]

i dont like tghoul i think its worse than ticuus

[spiral grove]

wr bow?

[reef coyote]

Tghoul my glorious king

[brazen fern]

tokyo ghoul

[stark lake]

get serious rn

[bright tartan]

i feel like the chain lightning does nothing when ads start to get even a little bit tankier

[sinful hemlock]

bro is lying

[reef coyote]

Brah

[spice plank]

The tyranny of whatever bow

[vapid elk]

LOLLLLL @scarlet ermine @reef coyote @sinful hemlock

[brazen fern]

graviton is better tbh

[sinful hemlock]

[reef coyote]

Say on ken Carson right now bro

[vapid elk]

mane im crine

[bright tartan]

like once the ads start to be able to tank the trinity lightning it becomes completely useless

[brazen fern]

graviton does juicy dmg

[reef coyote]

I'm crine

We crode

[vapid elk]

[spice plank]

Yeah trinity works on standard level content

[bright tartan]

if you cant chain the lightning it genuinely does nothing

[vapid elk]

mane im crine

[bright tartan]

ticuus works basically all the time

[vapid elk]

it one shots in gms wdym the chain doesnt do anything

[brazen fern]

isnt ticuus that aimbot bow

[reef coyote]

Yeah tghoul oneshots most ads in like 80 percent of content

[vapid elk]

are you high

[bright tartan]

and also you dont even need to kill them to make the explosion, once theyre primed anyone can kill them

that being said graviton is better than both

[reef coyote]

Off that robitussin

[verbal terrace]

@supple ermine

[bright tartan]

and sunshot is better than graviton

[brazen fern]

gravitons explosions are ridiculous

[vapid elk]

off that activist

[brazen fern]

and graviton has no falloff too on the second shot

[verbal terrace]

how to report people in the d2 lfg

[bright tartan]

graviton explosions are like nini nukes

[vapid elk]

god yeat is so good 🤤

[brazen fern]

you can basically snipe with it

[reef coyote]

Off that green 👎 🤮

[spice plank]

Oh my gosh the stasis artifact perk for the stasis scout from Deep Dive... UGH so good

[verbal terrace]

how do i report people

[brazen fern]

literally one shot and the whole room goes boom

[verbal terrace]

this guys is griefing

[wanton halo]

Anyone know if step 3/4 outbreak exotic mission is bugged becasue it's not working for us and we have completed 2 times already. The mission timer runs out and then exits as if we did not complete.

[vapid elk]

🤮

[brazen fern]

its nuts

[vapid elk]

ALL THAT TUFF TALK IS NOT SCARY TO ME

[verbal terrace]

911

[vapid elk]

THAT IS NOT YOUR HOUSE THATS AN AIR BNB

[bright tartan]

i think the issue with graviton is the explosions dont make more explosions like sunshot does

[scarlet ermine]

okay im finally back @stark lake

[vapid elk]

ian ferguson is next up

[fringe radish]

how much time are you finishing it with?

[reef coyote]

Ian ferguson

[modest bison]

@stark lake checked the report, and its exactly what i expected. your "mid run" linking to your your own personal PB explains enough

[stiff galleon]

? graviton chains for like a year

[stark lake]

what are you talking about?

[wanton halo]

what channel do I ask for help with the legendary vexcalibur mission

[vapid elk]

i still pray to god but this a diff type of christians

[scarlet ermine]

wtf theres an update 😐

[modest bison]

you only care about what the pros do. you're fulling willing to get rid of all things newer users would benefit from

[fringe radish]

#exotic-quests

[reef coyote]

That boy hebrew cause his pockets israelite

[brazen fern]

graviton catalyst also gives +20 range and turnabout + vorpal

[wanton halo]

@fringe radish we have like 3 minutes left I believe

[past oasis]

does the crota finisher cheese still work?

[vapid elk]

type shii

[modest bison]

which is why you're suggesting decent weapons should be avoided

[wanton halo]

thank you thank you

[stark lake]

what are you talking about pluh 😭

[bright tartan]

what does turnabout even do

[modest bison]

"only use the meta"

[sinful hemlock]

what decent weapons

[stiff galleon]

overshield when you break a shield

[fringe radish]

ok nvm, i was gonna say if youre finishing at the brink of a few seconds, it takes a few seconds after kill to actually finish

[stark lake]

am I blind

[modest bison]

you and your linear debacle

[vapid elk]

YEEAAA UEEAAAAA YEEAAAA my emo bi like to slit her wrists yea she so darkc

[alpine garnet]

graviton mid. graviton enjoyer with slowabomb has been ruining our t7 deep dives

[stark lake]

point me to this convo

[iron dome]

WOE

[spice plank]

So this artifact is godly for briarbinds warlock, and the stasis scout exotic from Deep Dive. This is amazing.

[vapid elk]

she movin i had to put thay bih in park

[modest bison]

i had to work, so i couldnt reply right away

[bright tartan]

crisis inverted

[reef coyote]

Using good weapons benefits new players

[subtle pagoda]

was looking at day 1 lfgs posts "RoN does not count" damn...

[stark lake]

please

[brazen fern]

guys remember when graviton was a joke

[iron dome]

THE NEW TITAN VOID ASPECT ISN'T A STARTING ASOECT

[brazen fern]

is the artifact at least good for solar

[stiff galleon]

ok

[vapid elk]

@reef coyote @sinful hemlock succubus playing

[modest bison]

this

[reef coyote]

Whus it do again

[sinful hemlock]

💀

[stiff galleon]

solar got radiant on orbs and thats it i think

[vapid elk]

i started levitating

[fringe radish]

i mean its about as glorified a strike as crotas end

[iron dome]

Btw anyone have a link to the "all known prismatic fragments" thing?

[sinful hemlock]

I had to look up what that weapon was

[brazen fern]

sadge

[stark lake]

whoever said that is a genius icl

[spice plank]

Orbs of power make you radiant @brazen fern
And rapid kills make firesprites

[brazen fern]

whats the focus element this artifact

[scarlet ermine]

i was made for this...literally

zac is such an icon

[stark lake]

why am I top

[vapid elk]

thats good tho

[wanton halo]

@fringe radish yeah, we are completing the mission with plenty of time. My team did read "complete your run of the heist simulation to finalize the data Ada-1 needs. I am not quite sure what this is referring to

[modest bison]

yeah im sure thats how you view things

[stark lake]

I hate this game

[brazen fern]

i already get firesprites from fragments so not a big buff

[iron dome]

Turn your grenade into a shield. (Which gives overshield as we've seen from footage) that blocks damage and turns that into your damage

[reef coyote]

She said boy dont start with me but I already started

[stark lake]

bro is onto nothing

[modest bison]

if the game was designed around your beliefs, would be dead in a year

[spice plank]

But it let's you swap fragments @brazen fern

[modest bison]

you live in your own world, my guy

[vapid elk]

shes movin to fast i had to put that bih in park

[reef coyote]

Like it reflects the damage or does it buff your next shot

[modest bison]

linears are good

[stark lake]

also the "mid run" is record :)

[merry saddle]

if I do a trio nessy then do a trio master nessy does it pop up separately on raid report?

[brazen fern]

that fragment also gives me melee energy

[sinful hemlock]

Months late but how did you like reloaded

[modest bison]

no one cares

[brazen fern]

when i kill scorched enemies

[iron dome]

Damage blocked boosts the damage of an AOE when you release the button

[stark lake]

you're acting like I killed your family or something. get real

[vapid elk]

still mid i saw timeloss

[modest bison]

the fact that you labeled it "mid run" shows enough lmao

[spice plank]

For me I run these fragments: make firesprites, firesprites give restoration, radiance/resto lasts longer, kills extend

[subtle pagoda]

RoN day 1 had to have least some skill on not dying and stuff its not like RoN was a horrid lfg could do it I still struggled a little with it compared to Crota obviously a walk in the park

[stark lake]

really good

[modest bison]

living off ego

[fringe radish]

only thing i can think of that involves heists is the battlegrounds from like 2 yuears ago

[iron dome]

It's like a glaive shield (but way larger and better) that turns into HHHSN when you release it

[stark lake]

yea but category prob getting split next szn anyway

[reef coyote]

Not really

[sinful hemlock]

🙏

[reef coyote]

That seems fun I hope it is useful

[stiff galleon]

im surprised people actually use firesprites, they feel like way too costly of an investment to me

[stark lake]

you're living off delusions

[modest bison]

so whats the alternative? this debate already happened

[mystic flame]

I think master will override normal

[vapid elk]

why they splitting

[fringe radish]

it was def more challenging than crota, just new mechanics everyone had to learn

[iron dome]

It's survivability and damage so it will be.

[reef coyote]

Rocket launchers or gls

[modest bison]

it results in "get good, use whisper"

[scarlet ermine]

bait or not bait

[stark lake]

depends if strand titan or something else will be able to kill boses like strand titan

[spice plank]

Also @brazen fern while radiant grenades recharge faster and deals more damage

[modest bison]

totally neglecting the other half of the players. the majority actually

[mystic flame]

GLs are better than rockets now even with Argent Ordinace

[stark lake]

maybe hunter prismatic with synthos and grapple with combo blow can

[vapid elk]

oh yeah banner of war is balanced forgot

[stark lake]

I'm just waiting to see

[spice plank]

The new artifact perk will cement edge transit superiority with the last column void thing

[sinful hemlock]

Where are you even using linears besides rhulk if you really wanted to

[modest bison]

yeah, already covered

[stiff galleon]

leviathan's breath or whisper if you need more total than levi offers

[reef coyote]

Gms ig idk

[modest bison]

no one uses linears for rhulk

[stark lake]

you're "covering" was saying "I'm bad I can't shoot a rocket"

[subtle pagoda]

honestly just glad i got a day 1 on my destiny career profile been playing since d1 beta and my friends arent dedicated enough to do a day 1

[modest bison]

im talking golgorath and such

[sinful hemlock]

Only bosses people use whisper on are ones that stand completely still so cant even make the argument that its hard to aim for some

[reef coyote]

Rockets should be used in gms actually so I'm wrong

[wanton halo]

Oh yeah solar void prismatic for episode one

[spice plank]

Void damage on Weakened targets is increased with artifact perk

[modest bison]

where these guys are expecting newer players to use rockets in a small pool

[reef coyote]

Rockets or gls

[sinful hemlock]

You can still use rockets

[mellow quarry]

guys can we save these harmonizers for the next season ??

[modest bison]

for newer players?

[reef coyote]

Yes

[modest bison]

how many wipes would that be

[iron dome]

God, only 2 more days of work between now and final shape

[stark lake]

not everyone's you sally, calm down

[iron dome]

Gonna try to get Wednesday pff

[spice plank]

So it looks like we won't be able to redeem this season pass items once TFS launches

[sinful hemlock]

The boss stands still wym how would it be difficult for them

[reef coyote]

0 hopefully I would assume we dont wipe on golg

[iron dome]

Off

[stiff galleon]

if newer players cant figure out how to not kill themself on an hgl, maybe they shouldnt be raiding to begin with

[reef coyote]

Newer players shouldn't be raiding

[modest bison]

i use rockets, when with a team who knows what they're doing. not everyone plays at top tier, sally

you have no room to be talkin here, callin your own record run "mid", yet posting it on bio

[iron dome]

New players are gonna get murdered by the lowercase Rhulks lmao

[frail coral]

Random quick question on zero hour. Do the puzzles need to be completed on Legend difficulty? I know the switches are done in legendary, just not sure about the puzzles

[modest bison]

you dont care for lower-tier players

[iron dome]

No

[sinful hemlock]

you dont need to be good at the game to use a rocket what, if you talking about izi swaps you atleast need some knowledge ig

[mystic flame]

No

[reef coyote]

Newer players should be doing dungeons to become good enough to do raids

[spice plank]

Yall we won't be able to claim our harmonizers next patch from this season pass 😦

[iron dome]

OH GOD

THE lowercase RHULKS IN GMS

[modest bison]

using rockets while needing to stand very close to a majority of your team

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-girls-personality-good-personality-bad-personality-gif-17340568

[reef coyote]

Is a man not allowed to critique the fruit his tree bares

[iron dome]

They're gonna be worse than tormentors

[wanton halo]

It's always been like that

[alpine garnet]

💀

[rapid jungle]

Is star crossed going to join the exotic mission rotator and all the seasonal weapons joining that

[wanton halo]

As far as we are aware yeah

[shrewd cloud]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/347833416303116290/1126979594646466711/aPXXmLjK_700wv_0.gif

[sinful hemlock]

How has uchur been

[stiff galleon]

yeah

[rapid jungle]

That’s stupid

[dreamy venture]

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of which mods/perks are orb eaters? Or if theres a way to tell?

[iron dome]

I'm so glad I became a titan main tbh looking at prismatic

[wanton halo]

it tells you which mods consume orbs

[rapid jungle]

And whisper/zero hour?

[modest bison]

they can, just highlights how they critique. they dont believe newer users should have some kind of introduction to the game. its all "use meta"

[mystic flame]

Green is orb gain yellow/blue is orb consumption

[alpine garnet]

we farmed gm all day with alpha and radiomonkey

[stiff galleon]

yes

[alpine garnet]

hbu?

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/drdisrespect-the-doc-drd-slouch-pudge-gif-18045171

[rapid jungle]

What weapons will those drop

[wanton halo]

consecration + knockout with frenzied blade and wishful ignorance is going to go CRAZY

[sinful hemlock]

At work

[reef coyote]

Tbf using meta weapons doesnt require much skill at all

[pallid raft]

love that name, (harrowed) would of been better though

[stark lake]

why would I teach players to be bad

[stiff galleon]

idk but they're being added

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-27586086

[bleak thorn]

Bro pre-load 300 GB for D2 the final shape. That is so insane

[iron dome]

Diamond Lance buff+suspend grenades+thunderclap+strand barricade

[iron dome]

Just never let enemies move

[wanton halo]

prismatic titan is going to be insane

[modest bison]

easy to say when you have experience with the game

[wanton halo]

probably the best of the 3

[shrewd cloud]

[alpine garnet]

do you play destiny often? very rarely see u online 😦

[rapid jungle]

Prismatic in general will be insane

[subtle pagoda]

r u winnin sonny?

[dreamy venture]

But I mean, as in, consume when your super is full. Some mods wont pick up orbs if youre full with super and/or armor charges while others will keep consuming orbs.

[alpine garnet]

nah, gonna die after a month of hype

[bleak thorn]

they said hunter prismatic will be highest best top dps

[rapid jungle]

How do you get undying weapons

[pallid raft]

using the meta is always piss easy

[stiff galleon]

probably season of the deep weapons for whisper since theyre taken, and ikelos moved from seraph to zero hour or something

[rapid jungle]

Other than riven

[wanton halo]

prismatic hunter takes 2nd tbh

[sinful hemlock]

Yeah, I get on with my friends. I got godslayer title and emblems like a week ago

[bleak thorn]

We will see about that lol

[modest bison]

you'd rather have the whole team wipe 50 times just to teach someone how to use rockets and GLs properly? from killing themselves to missing shots...

[iron dome]

It really is. And titans also got the best outcome from 3.0 besides arc

[modest bison]

when all they want is to learn the raid mechanics?

[wanton halo]

“we will see about that… 🐺”

[rapid jungle]

How do you get undying weapons like subjunctive

[wanton halo]

pre hoil/storm nade nerf arc was good

[rapid jungle]

Can you get them other than riven

[iron dome]

I'm also excited to use the new hunter aspect with my sixth coyote fashion

[stiff galleon]

starcrossed is the easiest way

[sinful hemlock]

Been on to finish up some things before final shape and maybe one edge shiny but prob not

[pallid raft]

that sounds like a child who hasn't played a single game before ngl

[bleak thorn]

Do you think I am wrong about it?

[iron dome]

Nah, arc titan has some fundamental problems that arc shares as a whole but arc titan had specifically

[wanton halo]

focus engrams

[shrewd cloud]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/801kwlTIfQFFMwU41V/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xadqb7t1sno9ck7bxm28fxlwhz7jglrbs23579sj&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[rapid jungle]

I need two more subjunctive red borders

[modest bison]

you see? this is why people feel like they cant get into games. cause of that kind of judgement

[iron dome]

Juggernaut and knockout are disgraceful aspect design

[mystic flame]

Coil

[modest bison]

dont be toxic

[wanton halo]

knockout is great

[rapid jungle]

Is that sleepy joe or tired trumpet

[stiff galleon]

you need to unlock them first, which is what i thought he was talking about

[wanton halo]

i love knockout

[iron dome]

Also storm nades on arc titan are the one grenade they did a poor job with cus for some reason lightning strikes aren't a verb

[subtle pagoda]

probably got hit by a phalanx

[stiff python]

Destiny 2 final freak

[wanton halo]

ohh yea then just do that

[shrewd cloud]

joe ofc

[pallid raft]

if your new to gaming you shouldn't be raiding in the first place, learn to play the game it's not being toxic

[spiral grove]

the final red border

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-gif-16148664

[iron dome]

It's getting buffed but. The healing is relatively low and it's one of the 2 aspects that exist just to give amplified

[sinful hemlock]

Bro not every new player is a literal toddler brain, just dont move and shoot at boss no new player I know struggles with this

[rapid jungle]

I need one more cmt red border and two more subjunctive red borders

[mystic flame]

Literally just learn all the dungeons. They are similar and toned down and much more forgiving

[sinful hemlock]

And even if they mess up they mess up we arent hard on them cause they literally say “they are new”

[wanton halo]

the issue with arc is there is no survivability

[subtle pagoda]

Im not opposed to new players learning the raid ff14 people taught me how to raid and they were nice as hell but when i post a kwtd cuz i gotta go to bed soon i want u to kwtd

[rapid jungle]

Learn DSC bruh that raid is THE raid to learn

[modest bison]

you should be raiding whether you're new or not. its a game, its about fun. you shouldnt need to know meta to do raids. and tou dont need to

[stiff galleon]

frankly yes, because that is a fundamental skill used in every raid and dungeon

[iron dome]

There's survivability it just sucks

[wanton halo]

also the buff to powered melee with consecration 🤤🤤🤤

[pallid raft]

I wouldn't say all but most are pretty good starting places

[mystic flame]

Well crazy DR everywhere with arc-prismatic now

[sinful hemlock]

No one is bringing a new light to high end content, they learn the game by playing it till they have knowledge or is teached

[iron dome]

Blind has 2 sources that don't rely on weapon kills

[modest bison]

raiding shouldnt be the first thing you do, but no one wants to spent hours in strikes just to keep up with dps. and they dont need to

[iron dome]

And one of those gives up your grenade

[modest bison]

they shouldnt be locked away from content just cause they dont know meta

[pallid raft]

huh? what?

[iron dome]

The other makes you get in really close

[rapid jungle]

All beginners should learn DSC first

[pallid raft]

what are you actaully saying?

[peak wyvern]

Anyone know the rough drop rate of catalysts from ritual activities? im 2 shaxx resets in and not a single catalyst

[modest bison]

you dyslexic or something?

[mystic flame]

That’s inherent. Like wanting a business career without having an education.

[rapid jungle]

Bungie rarely ever gives out percentages for drops

[iron dome]

Raiding should he the first thing you do

[pallid raft]

are you stupid or something?

[modest bison]

nope, cause its just a game

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-joe-biden-president-sniffing-gif-26982962

[sinful hemlock]

Strikes? I thought this was an argument about end game content meta

[modest bison]

not about end game content meta. its about allowing newer players to explore the content

[rapid jungle]

Yeah strikes are end game content super end game is like patrols

[modest bison]

which they can do, when people arent being toxic

[subtle pagoda]

I think its fair for just normal raids but pantheon plz for the love of god watch videos or go do the normal raids to learn

[stiff galleon]

bro is fighting tooth and nail to 3 phase normal nez

[modest bison]

not even talking pantheon. no master raids

[mystic flame]

If you’re sensitive about toxic people, get off the internet

[pallid raft]

I said if you can barely play the game you should learn how to play it first before you do a raid, now your argument is that they shouldn't be spending hours grinding? how are those two things related

[magic kayak]

LF1 WEEK 4 ROOM 124

[modest bison]

just experiencing the basic raid content

[rapid jungle]

Gen chat moment

[modest bison]

im not sensitive, wtf lmao. im just saying, the whole "linears should never be used" is toxic

[brazen fern]

what are elemental charge mods again

[modest bison]

telling newer players "dont play this content, get good" when they really dont need to

just cause they dont do a raid in 30 mins doesnt mean they shouldnt play

thats toxic

[mystic flame]

They were nerfed by like 20% and they were only good because of an artifact mod. You’re living in the past and you are in denial.

[pallid raft]

I mean linears sadly aren't that good anymore, any decent rocket will probs out dps and is easier to use

[subtle pagoda]

Bungie should just make a playlist of what content to do to prepare for ea raid

[modest bison]

"dont do raids until you've mastered rockets"

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-jill-biden-gif-18694402

[rapid jungle]

I feel like if I put KWTD in my lfg and a new player joins ima be mad asf

[stark lake]

...what?

[modest bison]

its not meta, no. but its not a "dont use it, never use it"

[rapid jungle]

Like join a Sherpa run

[pallid raft]

if your missing all your rocket shots on atheon idk what to tell you

[stiff galleon]

there's a difference between not being able to run in 30 minutes and actively enabling bad habits in raids

[modest bison]

ian, im not sure if you've lost memory of the convo, or if you're really just that blind to what im saying

[mystic flame]

So cringe

[alpine garnet]

what if it's pro player's alt

[modest bison]

pros arent the only ones playing destiny

[stark lake]

learn to play the game before joining a raid seems very fair

[modest bison]

and linears are great for many encounters

[subtle pagoda]

second this if i wanna go to bed soon and i put kwtd and i call a role and nobody answers and wants to ad clear im raging

[mystic flame]

👆

[keen wasp]

Such as?

[rapid jungle]

A pro player would still kwtd

[spiral grove]

why do people still call daybreak dawnblade

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-lord-joe-biden-pray-oh-boy-smh-gif-18720274

[modest bison]

linears are part of the game, ian

[mystic flame]

Please don’t waste other people’s time because you are new

[modest bison]

you're saying "learn meta"

[alpine garnet]

but u would kick em assuming they're new light

[stiff galleon]

theyre just not, if you want to say passable thats one thing, but nowhere in a raid are they great

[stark lake]

using my name doesn't make you anymore right and doesn't make me listen to you any more, you suck

[modest bison]

i am relatively new. and im speaking on behalf of other newer players

[rapid jungle]

I would kick if they are lacking in damage or constantly causing wipes without changing what they’re doing

[modest bison]

this is how you guys treat new people?

[mystic flame]

I actively carry new players and actively tell them to vault linears.

[alpine garnet]

sounds fair

[brazen fern]

ewwww overload sword

[pallid raft]

I have taught new players raids for a while, I think I know what I'm talking about a bit more than you do

[keen wasp]

“I don’t know a much and am yapping out of my ass”

[subtle pagoda]

honestly just make a lfg of all new people and watch the video together

[rapid jungle]

Ewwwww

[brazen fern]

what is bungie thinking

[modest bison]

im yapping about newer players, being a newer player myself? what

[alpine garnet]

lament time then

[rapid jungle]

Who tf is gonna use swords for overloads

[brazen fern]

who tf is pulling up to an overload hobgoblin with a sword 😭😭

[rapid jungle]

Doesn’t work bc lament is barrier

[stiff galleon]

how is telling new people to get used to rockets a bad thing

[modest bison]

some of you got selective hearing

[mystic flame]

Overdo hand cannon is such a w

[keen wasp]

You’re making statements about a mega you clearly don’t understand

[modest bison]

its not bad. but to make it an obligation is

[mystic flame]

Try talking louder

[brazen fern]

the world if exotics with intrinsic anti champ could stack with artifact mods:

[modest bison]

makes people feel like they cant participate unless they know the meta

[alpine garnet]

it really is. mb okay, bequest time then

[peak spindle]

If someone says KWTD Experienced players, they arent looking for new players, if they arent teaching they arent looking for new players. Why cant you get that

[modest bison]

thats toxic af

[keen wasp]

You are new -> don’t have experience -> don’t understand meta -> shouldn’t give meta recommendations

[modest bison]

no one said anything about kwtd

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-2024-trump-president-gif-2621279877156415494

[subtle pagoda]

its not that hard to watch videos of meta and how to play ENDGAME content

[rapid jungle]

Ikr like who tf is stunning barriers with a sword

[pallid raft]

I've got years of experience teaching new players raids does that change your opinion of what I say at all?

[brazen fern]

lament apes

[mystic flame]

Refusing to accept the meta is worth kicking. Not knowing it is whatever

[brazen fern]

wait a minute

[pallid raft]

based people

[keen wasp]

Now is the easiest time ever to get good meta advice and acquire a competitive meta loadout

[modest bison]

why would it? would you kick someone for using a linear, or for not being able to use a rocket?

[quiet coral]

"erm actually"

[brazen fern]

they made chill clip into an artifact mod now?

[peak spindle]

If you KWTD, you arent bringing an LFR to the encounter, simple as that

[keen wasp]

But nuh uh ima use a linear because they were good over a year ago

[alpine garnet]

imagine their faces when they die after an attack in tfs cuz gutted healing

[rapid jungle]

Wait what

[brazen fern]

Stasis weapon final blows against slowed or frozen targets release a burst that slows.

[modest bison]

no one mentioned kwtd. you brought that

[brazen fern]

huh this is literally chill clip with extra steps

[pallid raft]

you think sherpas kick people? what fantasy world do you live in?

[modest bison]

we are talking about newer players, who are trying to learn ehat to do

[alpine garnet]

ager's time

[rapid jungle]

Agers already does that

[peak spindle]

My guy you literally just called people toxic for not wanting people to play with lfrs

[brazen fern]

oh no double slow 😭

[stiff galleon]

it really isn't

[teal plaza]

holy double slow stacks

[brazen fern]

imagine this sht stacks with agers

[modest bison]

alright, so if you had some newer players, would you keep wiping until they've gotten the hang of rockets?

[keen wasp]

What to do = use rockets for damage

[keen wasp]

Gotten the hang?

[rapid jungle]

Then join a Sherpa run

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/is-something-wrong-matt-ross-luis-carruthers-american-psycho-is-everything-okay-gif-18161239

[keen wasp]

Just shoot them like any other gun

[pallid raft]

my question is how are they missing rockets on a boss that is standing still

[modest bison]

yeah, where linears are actually used frequently for encounters like golgorath

[stark lake]

no self respecting sherpa tells people to use linears

[modest bison]

opposed to rockets

[alpine garnet]

im missing 6 of my 8 rockets while dpsing morgeth

[keen wasp]

According to who?

[rapid jungle]

Rockets are still good on golgorath lol

[pallid raft]

golgi is the one encounter you don't use explosive weapons

[modest bison]

Ian, just stop my dude. you obviously have 0 perspective on newer players

[stark lake]

I've played with more new players than you my dude

[quiet coral]

Truth

[modest bison]

i get it, youve no-lifed destiny enough to be better than others. parents must be proud. that aint the topic bruh

[wanton halo]

Am I the only person who doesn’t like teaching in lfg groups

[flint path]

300gb needed

[quiet coral]

My parents are very proud

[mystic flame]

I think you should shut before you become an engraved meme in this discord.

[pallid raft]

doesn't matter anyways, boss has such low health

[alpine garnet]

hi Luna!

[modest bison]

if you sherpad, would you wipe woth rockets until thet got it right?

[brazen fern]

dude there are 3 sword mods

[rapid jungle]

There’s only one encounter where I prefer linears and it’s the woman from crota with div

[modest bison]

or would you recommend a linear so they can focus on mechanics

[quiet coral]

Yea

[brazen fern]

bungie pls i wont use a sword except for movement

[flint path]

@alpine garnet hello uchur, I managed to put hsr on ps5

[modest bison]

alright cool, stay away from #find-a-sherpa

[subtle pagoda]

i only teach my friends and then again it takes us 3 hours to do the raid cuz i explain and then ask if everybody knows what to do and then start and then they ask ok tell me again

[brazen fern]

or like bequest for sth like atraks

[quiet coral]

There's a reason I Sherpa, got nothing else to do

[wanton halo]

I hate when I put “KWTD” and someone ask me what to do lmao

[pallid raft]

I would recommend rockets since they're infinitely easier to use than linears

[alpine garnet]

waa? did u like it?

[stark lake]

you're just so bad and can't imagine anyone not being as bad as you ig

[teal plaza]

if u sherpa and u teach them mechanics but say go full survivability ur not a sherpa

[brazen fern]

very mid artifact

[modest bison]

they arent, especially when standing close to your team

[flint path]

Gameplay is fine, UI is atrocious

[rapid jungle]

Ir yut is the only place linears are accepted (other than first gos boss but who likes gos)

[modest bison]

you can blow yourself up, can easily miss a mis-timed shot

[rapid jungle]

Just stand still

[stiff galleon]

yeah because its a fundamental skill for dps that applies to any raid, it is something they should be practicing

[rapid jungle]

How hard is it to not strafe in a well

[modest bison]

works when the whole team abides

[brazen fern]

adhd

[pallid raft]

no they are so much harder and you shouldn't even be moving in dps unless switching to a plate to get a buff to dps

[modest bison]

pretty hard for newer people

[subtle pagoda]

for normal raids its generally ok to not know meta because most likely somebody else who is experienced will make up damage

[icy hearth]

.,

[brazen fern]

gotta slide around like a madman in a well

[modest bison]

thats what im saying

[rapid jungle]

Bruh just don’t click wasd or the sticks

[icy hearth]

//region

[bright grotto]

You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.

[quiet coral]

Lol ok goofy, I can teach you how to use rockets if you'd like!!

[stark lake]

you think that new players are just doing the worst thing possibel, they really aren't. you might but most aren't

[modest bison]

you shouldnt need to know meta to participate in normal raids lmfao

[brazen fern]

or like it literally wont matter

[radiant garnet]

Guys do you know if i can take deepsight harmonizers with me to TFS?

[rapid jungle]

You can’t

[meager mural]

is there a report channel?

[modest bison]

yet ian is saying "it aint meta? vault it"

[wanton halo]

ok

[quiet coral]

I agree to that as well, I used heir apparent with a friend in week 1 and absolutely cooked everything

[pallid raft]

but I would never recommended linears to a new player because they're so much harder to use

[radiant garnet]

Okey. So i have to find some weapon to use on it thx

[quiet coral]

That is true

[brazen fern]

unless im farming a boss encounter, just use whatever the hell you want

[modest bison]

thats the whole point. its determining what is best for the situation

[brazen fern]

i dont care if i dont one phase the boss in 10 seconds

[quiet coral]

Rockets

[stiff galleon]

every player has access to like red herring or hothead or something, its not even like you need a meta rocket to be doing better than a linear

[keen wasp]

Rockets rockets rockets

[rapid jungle]

I recommend using it on hard to get weapons like the ones from exotic mission rotators ie Calus mini tool

[modest bison]

rockets are great dps, but newbies blow themselves up & miss shots

[quiet coral]

Not if I tell them to stand still and don't strafe in wells

[modest bison]

so yeah, you can repeat an encounter multiple times til they get the rockets down

[rapid jungle]

Linears are harder to hit tho bc you need headshots

[keen wasp]

Newbies miss shots with linears no?

[pallid raft]

crux is a world drop amd gets recon explo light

[radiant garnet]

Yeah just need to get one first 😅

[alpine garnet]

palmyra goated

[lone vine]

Anyone having connection issue ?

[stiff galleon]

yeah

[brazen fern]

and slideshot which is nuts

[stiff galleon]

genuinely a better choice than a linear

[subtle pagoda]

but newbies should at least get out of the comfort zone eventually to use rockets to practice at least in the normal raids

[modest bison]

not as much of an issue, since the magazine is bigger

[brazen fern]

its basically budget rdm

[stable kestrel]

so how is final shape going

[modest bison]

and theres not a chance of blowing up

[lone vine]

Yo any idea ?

[keen wasp]

What are you doing in Ron with new players?

[rapid jungle]

Linears like require headshots to be good which is harder than just a rocket

[modest bison]

golgorath was the example, but ron has the same issues, yes

[rapid jungle]

Just stand on the back of the plate

[pallid raft]

if people are blowing themselves up get them to stop moving during dps! it's not that hard

[quiet coral]

Actually a bigger issue. Each one of those missed shots is a good amount of damage missed. Take cat for example. You miss one shot and your swaps are messed up

[modest bison]

standing in a small area next to other teammates with rockets

[brazen fern]

linears should definitely be better than rockets on bosses with crit spot

[rapid jungle]

Should*

[keen wasp]

Rockets are superior on golg and linears are all but useless in Ron

[rapid jungle]

Not is

[brazen fern]

but i guess bungie doesnt want that

[modest bison]

the whole team has to be on the same page, and even when announced, they still do due to nerves

[brazen fern]

linears are harder to use and less effective

[pallid raft]

because of divinity

[umbral cedar]

can someone help please with deep dive tier 7 ?

[modest bison]

how are they harder to use?

[quiet coral]

All you gotta do is tell them to take their hands off the keyboard during dps and not strafe in well

[subtle pagoda]

To me its ok to use whatever in noraml raids but im saying if the newbies want to get better at raids and do more content eventually they should step outside their comfort zone and start to use rockets

[brazen fern]

you have to hit crits, rockets dont

[rapid jungle]

You need to hit headshots

[modest bison]

you cant blow yourself up

[keen wasp]

Literally a skill issue

[modest bison]

rockets miss more frequently

[quiet coral]

Confirmed, this guy strafes in wells

[modest bison]

if you're new, yeah, no duh

[stiff galleon]

i mean divinity overrides crit multipliers anyway, the issue is moreso bosses never have higher crit multipliers besides last wish

[brazen fern]

nerf div damage on linears then

[wanton halo]

chat isnt real

[pallid raft]

due to nerves
no, just keep one hand off the wasd keys it is not that hard "nerves" are no excuse to keep running into peoples rockets

[modest bison]

confirmed you arent paying attention to the convo

[brazen fern]

linears should be rewarded for hitting crits

[rapid jungle]

Just don’t move the damn well

[modest bison]

it aint about me. its about people trying to learn raids

[quiet coral]

Confirmed strafer

[modest bison]

i know the meta, i know the raid mechanics. but i also play with many that dont

[keen wasp]

You

[rapid jungle]

Every advantage linears have can easily be squashed by not moving and aiming

[teal plaza]

you should teach people how to rocket dps instead of just switching off because they're not comfortable with it

[alpine garnet]

don't give them ideas

[keen wasp]

Don’t let them get complacent with linears

[modest bison]

just being toxic at this point

[brazen fern]

bungie needs div for their own raid runs

[pallid raft]

I've taught many more that don't either not one person I have ever came across ran into others rockets because of nerves, they were mucking up mechanics instead because of nerves

[brazen fern]

they cant nerf it too hard

[modest bison]

until the next linear buff, or rocket nerf, to where the meta changes?

[stiff galleon]

dont even need that, just higher crit multipliers on bosses since divinity overrides crit multipliers, its why div is bad for kalli

[modest bison]

this. this is exactly what i mean

[quiet coral]

What everyone is saying is sure it might take more time to teach them weapon swaps with rockets, but overall their ease of use compared to the damage they output is better

[rapid jungle]

Also rockets are gonna be really good in TFS bc of the gjally titan chest piece

[alpine garnet]

imma put 3 arc reserves and be running with 850 div shots

[neon siren]

Sword DPS

[brazen fern]

yeah give linears a higher crit multiplier and we are golden

[keen wasp]

They can learn the raid and do damage

[pallid raft]

weapon swaps with rockets
huh?

[wanton halo]

part 3 of 4 zero hour exotic mission. We have completed 3 times now with 3 minutes on clock and we loot the chest . It's not completing. Does anyone know why?

[rapid jungle]

Thunderlord dps 🥱

[modest bison]

if you can 2 phase with either rockets or linears, does it matter?

[quiet coral]

Bait n switch

[ivory stratus]

Not gonna happen because linears are way easier to use

[modest bison]

what matters is teaching the raid mechanics

[neon siren]

Did you talk to Ada 1 yet

[wanton halo]

ok

[brazen fern]

i was doing almost 200k damage with apex in gm on your div

[keen wasp]

Get the rocket 1 phase

[pallid raft]

oh that's what you mean, I was thinking more akin to the slug shotty meta

[brazen fern]

how are linears easier to use

[wanton halo]

standing still and holding the shoot button is hard

[keen wasp]

Apex predator is super accessible

[subtle pagoda]

yes and its ok for like the first 2-6 raids they do to get used to mechanics but eventually they should step outside their comfort zone cuz they will need to eventually or its just good in general to be good at every gun

[ivory stratus]

Hold mouse 2 😱

[neon siren]

Same with rockets…

[modest bison]

yeah, get a group of newbies 1 phasing.... stop talking my guy

[wanton halo]

yes, originally

[keen wasp]

Apex + any fusion is enough to one phase almost any boss

[rapid jungle]

^ it’s free to get with rivens wishes

[wanton halo]

notice hkw i said nothing about what gun bc every gun is exactly the same

[rapid jungle]

And kalli can be farmed by anyone with half a brain cell

[keen wasp]

I’ve one phased warpriest with 3 newbies

[modest bison]

no, you can blow yourself up

[pallid raft]

you need to hit small heads with lineaer, rockets you need to hit big bodies
how are linears easier

[modest bison]

and your shots need to be timed properly, or they miss

[wanton halo]

not if u stand still

[keen wasp]

They just threw on apex and random fusions

[quiet coral]

I'd much rather teach kinderguardians what they should be using during dps as well as the different kinds of dps compared to allowing them to use subpar gear

[alpine garnet]

hi fox

[ivory stratus]

If you can't hit crits in d2 hit kovaaks man

[wanton halo]

hi

[modest bison]

if others dont

[wanton halo]

your argument is stupid

[rapid jungle]

There’s no way you can blow yourself up if you just don’t move

[ivory stratus]

Bullets literally magnetize.

[neon siren]

That’s just for nezarec, every other boss is just a stand still boss

[modest bison]

wtf? others jump around

[stiff galleon]

what do you mean you didnt 4 phase using auto rifles because rockets are too scary!!?!

[wanton halo]

ok

[ivory stratus]

Linears shoot air fryers at the boss

[sinful hemlock]

This argument been going on for a whole 30 minutes now thats tough

[jovial epoch]

hi is dastiny worth buying fs or should i just watch youtube for the story i haven't played since lightfall^

[subtle pagoda]

I think its important for them to learn the mechanics first and if their loadout is sub par in normal raids its fine

[pallid raft]

then tell them to stop jumping around

[keen wasp]

But hey, atleast they might know the mechanics

[high jungle]

Does anyone have a character thats on the week 7 seasonal mission? I need the Astral Cloister Starcat and do not feel like grinding coil until I get the room

[pallid raft]

lightfall was filler

[stray sable]

Is the buyable red border from raid end chest only in featured raids?

[keen wasp]

Even if it took 3 hours

[neon siren]

Honestly I think it’s gonna be fun, you didn’t really miss much in the seasons lol, so you’ll be fine if you do

[keen wasp]

All raids with craftable weapons

[alpine garnet]

almost as robin vs ruan mei usefulness

[pallid light]

Omg the artifact

They made it for me actually

[sinful hemlock]

Lmfao on god

[modest bison]

hard when they got nerves & dont have some specific place to stand. "yeah, just calm nerves during boss and dont move", great technique, not practical for newer players

[rapid jungle]

Did bungie share the artifact

[jovial epoch]

thanksss

[quiet coral]

I mean I'm not talking about no giga premo builds but enough where they are actually contributing to the health bar. People like seeing bigger numbers so why not help them get there

[pallid light]

Yes

[supple ermine]

Spoilers belong in #destiny-spoilers - If this says no access and you want access use /settings "Spoiler Access" "Enable"

If this option isn't available to you, refresh your Discord. Control+R

[modest bison]

you can tell em, but thats still like 5-6 wipes

[sweet lark]

completely depends on you and if you wanna pour tons of hours into this game again. you have a LOT to catch up on and tfs is coming out in just a few days so if you're up to it

[rapid jungle]

Can someone send it to me

[stray sable]

Yes in the twab apparently
Fallout made a vid

[keen wasp]

Don’t touch the left stick or movement buttons

[pallid light]

Bungie just add spark of beacons to prismatic and all is forgiven

[sinful hemlock]

Watch youtube cause bungie hides important story plot points behind seasons

[neon siren]

Let’s talk about Destruction tb vs arlan usefullness instead

[sweet lark]

spark of bacons?!?!?!

[keen wasp]

Literally move your hand away if yiu have to

[rapid jungle]

Aight

[subtle pagoda]

true but for their first like 1-3 raids it should be ok then you start getting them into more dps likeable numbers so they can go off into the lfg world and not get flamed

[pallid raft]

I have been sherpaing since beyond lights launch, when I tell new players to not move in well so others don't blow up they stop moving in well
stop making nonsense excuses

[modest bison]

dont contribute to this convo anymore, because you obviously only promote meta. thats not what this is about

[keen wasp]

How dare I help new people do good damage

[stark lake]

"stop talking because I dont' like what you're saying"

[modest bison]

this is about newer players experiencing the content

[shut canyon]

whatever happened to the xur rework

[teal plaza]

my nerves made me miss 10 linear shots in a row 😦

[modest bison]

can still do good damage with linears

[neon siren]

Not moving and not blowing up other teammates is not meta bruh

[modest bison]

will it be the best? no, its not meta

[stray sable]

Does LW have a raid end chest?

[keen wasp]

It’s going to be a surprise right? Right????

[keen wasp]

That’s just cope

[pallid raft]

people mess up mechanics if they're new due to not knowing and nerves I know this from experience, years of it

[pallid light]

The blind one

Would make prismatic literally perfect for me

[wanton halo]

iirc season of the wish starts with a recap or we got a recap with the into the light cutscene so you can just play the current seasonal story and be caught up

[rapid jungle]

ANTI BARRIER SMG

LETS GO

[modest bison]

more like "i keep repeating myself, theres no more value in what is being said", not listening to the point

its all this toxic mindset of "meta or nothing"

[neon siren]

Sleeper stimulant is a goated tho just saying

[rapid jungle]

That’s only with the caty

[red lava]

people like clearing/farming things as fast as possible - that means meta

[rapid jungle]

Which is harder to get than crux

[stark lake]

the mindset of why would we tell new players to use bad things. they should use what they'll use when they're good

[quiet coral]

Yea for sure, idk I usually farm with newer people to get them some competent builds then bring them in

[lilac wraith]

hey guys is quickdraw rangefinder good on a solar grenade launcher?

[modest bison]

yes, but we are talking about newer players, who are just getting into raiding

[subtle pagoda]

so r u saying that new lights shouldnt use meta in general in normal raids or eventually they should but for the next 1-4 raids its ok to use subpar stuff

[wanton halo]

goated

[lilac wraith]

alr thanks

[neon siren]

Then they shouldn’t be doing pantheon

[pallid raft]

no it's not, your single argument against rockets is just horrible

[modest bison]

they shouldnt be obligated to use meta

[delicate nimbus]

Whats TFS raid name

[stark lake]

people shouldn't use rockets because I couldnt'

[modest bison]

they shouldnt be kicked for using non-meta

[sweet lark]

wowza!! so good you should delete it!!!

[stark lake]

🗣️

[modest bison]

linears should still be an option for them

[neon siren]

It’s the owners right to be able to kick somebody

[reef coyote]

Ngl is it toxic to want people to use weapons that will give them an advantage and a better time

[keen wasp]

Just ask them to put a rocket on

[alpine garnet]

sounds good

[modest bison]

what value are you adding to this..

[pallid raft]

nobody is saying they should be, people are just saying that your one argument is bad

[rapid jungle]

Not if everyone is gonna use gjally

[red lava]

there are some teams that would allow non meta and help them but you shouldnt be obliged to carry anyone

[wanton halo]

they aren't but so shouldnt people be forced to play with players that refuse to adapt

[keen wasp]

If someone wants to be helped through a raid, they’ll do whatever helps them get through it best (rockets)

[quiet coral]

No but it is when I call them a silly little stinker for wanting to use meta weapons grrrr

[reef coyote]

Bring that up with bungie when they made linears unusable

[neon siren]

What value is your argument in general, it’s a dumbass statement lol

[modest bison]

yeah, and thats what the convo was about

[sinful hemlock]

I hate how this still exists

[modest bison]

"never use linears, use rockets or gls"

[quiet coral]

You're getting it now

[keen wasp]

yayyy

[pallid raft]

because linears are pretty bad for dps

[modest bison]

thats meta, yeah. but to think linears should be vaulted is silly

[keen wasp]

Take away the quotations

[modest bison]

cause you're only focusing on the pros

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/drdisrespect-the-doc-drd-slouch-pudge-gif-18045171

[wanton halo]

dont have apex? use ascendacy or hell get on tractor, there are ways to be useful outside of trying to argue tlord is good

Anyone know step 3 of 4 exotic outbreak mission

[subtle pagoda]

hmmm i get that but with that mindset especially this is coming from a player since d1 beta dont expect a warm welcome in some normal raids if you are dishing out subpar damage and then argue with the host to swap

[sweet lark]

@modest bison what's your favorite type of women?

[quiet coral]

Literally everybody and their mothers are using rocket/gls

[keen wasp]

Doing a lot more damage for a tiny bit more effort is not being a “pro”

[pallid raft]

I wish they weren't every time I've used one in dps it's been horrible with the exception of golgi and riven in pantheon

[modest bison]

thats understandable. but linears can put out damage

[reef coyote]

To be fair they are the worst damage heavy archetype

[modest bison]

its just not "the best damage"

[peak spindle]

Jfc

[delicate nimbus]

hey it looks like me...

[keen wasp]

So can an auto rifle

[quiet coral]

Not as much as rockets or gls. That's what makes them meta

[sweet lark]

whisper>linears

[jaunty marsh]

yeah

[modest bison]

which auto rifle can put out damage like a linear?

[neon siren]

Well what about swords, why can’t we used swords for DPS

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-gif-20185451

[sinful hemlock]

A lucky pants malf or wardens law does more damage 💀

[modest bison]

crota?

[slim kernel]

I need 155gb to pre load this upd?

[sinful hemlock]

And thats even easier to use

[keen wasp]

Sweet business

[modest bison]

bosses in duality?

[peak spindle]

Are you still on about linears 30m later? Bruh stfu already, your being toxic at thus point

[jaunty marsh]

did lf leg campaign get you to 1750 or higher?

[pallid raft]

no they can't, use them sure but don't cope that they're just as good as rockets when they aren't

[delicate nimbus]

wait for TFS?

[neon siren]

Riven

[reef coyote]

Dude I be hating people who swear by this for everything

[modest bison]

swords are used for dps

[sinful hemlock]

It happens alot

[slim kernel]

i think so

[quiet coral]

The preload is 155gb?

[reef coyote]

Just gahlran do not use swords on caital

[rapid jungle]

For crota only

[delicate nimbus]

@subtle pagoda Exeeds character limit

[peak spindle]

Aint no mf is still on linears for 30m straight.

[rapid jungle]

Bungie had to make a boss take more damage to swords for people to use swords

[pallid raft]

forgetting about atraks

[peak spindle]

Wildin

[delicate nimbus]

thats gonna be bull, i gotta uninstall my warframe 😢

[modest bison]

"but swords for crota isnt meta, dont bring a sword"

[slim kernel]

literally just uninstalled warframe LOL

[subtle pagoda]

i tell my friends who are generally horrid at the game and play like new lights when they come back to use what is best for them and then when they see damage numbers they usually want to know how to get higher up there

[rapid jungle]

Parasit

[jaunty marsh]

linears ❌

[keen wasp]

Linears are so bad that they don’t even get featured in damage testing videos 😭

[reef coyote]

There is a guy in this server who is one of those people who builds their entire personality on what loadout they use

[scarlet ermine]

lol

thats like half the people in this chat

[pallid raft]

and for people who don't own witch queen?

[rapid jungle]

If Bungie didn’t make crota take more sword damage everyone would use legend of across

[modest bison]

what? cataclysmic is always up there

[peak spindle]

Steam says 299gb, i really hope that includes the base gamr

[jaunty marsh]

free rn

[rapid jungle]

It’s free rn lol

[scarlet ermine]

if you tell someone linears are bad its as if you told them you just ran over their dog

[quiet coral]

Wait till it's on sale for literally 5$

[sinful hemlock]

Freak behavior

[reef coyote]

Lament is good on atraks final stand

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-willem-dafoe-donald-kimball-american-psycho-i-got-you-gif-18161591

[sinful hemlock]

Rodwaffle quitted his sunbracer king days 🙏

[subtle pagoda]

in normal content linears are ok!!!!

[delicate nimbus]

Wisp or Mag: Who's hotter in your opinion

[pallid raft]

they go on sale for like 70 instead of 90 wdym

[modest bison]

no, its the "everything is bad except rockets & gls"

[keen wasp]

No 😭, you are just yapping, cataclysmic isn’t even best linear damage

[slim kernel]

wisp

[stark lake]

how I'm feeling rn

[hallow wasp]

game is already 150 that is insanity

[brave gate]

upon the release of final shape, is zero hour and the whispers as well as their respective catalyst quests going to be removed?

[rapid jungle]

In normal content almost anything can be ok

[delicate nimbus]

damn no hesitation

[quiet coral]

It's free rn brother

[modest bison]

the guy literally make a joke about sword dps, yet crota uses sword frequently

[buoyant moon]

wtf is it actually

[pallid raft]

aside from the point

[modest bison]

you guys got them hooked on rockets & gl, probably never did crota

[scarlet ermine]

why does it bother you that rockets and gls are better than every other heavy?

[neon siren]

Yes that’s the bosses weapon

[shrewd cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-law-helmet-talk-snod-gif-17555391

[reef coyote]

I now build my personality on being kind and nice and speedrunning with friends

[keen wasp]

yay swords on one boss

[lilac wraith]

150gb download is gonna take 4 days

[quiet coral]

:((

[modest bison]

it doesnt. it's suggesting that no one should use anything else

[bright tartan]

the coil should not be a matchmaking activity

[pallid raft]

because swords do an increased amount of damage to him

[modest bison]

i understand rockets and gls are best for damage

[reef coyote]

This cart is DEAD

[keen wasp]

If they can use rockets, they should

[sinful hemlock]

Is the last year rodwaffle dead now? Are you an improved soul now

[delicate nimbus]

mine says 114 gb

[hallow wasp]

last i looked on my steam (a while ago) it was around 120 gigs so add +155 and we are nearing 300 😭

[rapid jungle]

Legend of acrius would be used on crota constantly if Bungie didn’t make swords do increased damage to him

[neon siren]

Guys let’s all use linears for atraks, it’s PEAK DPS trust me pleeease

[modest bison]

ive mentioned it multiple times, idk why people are ignoring it

[rapid jungle]

Also there’s like one or two swords worth using

[keen wasp]

Parasite is to scary

[reef coyote]

I care not for ego I merely want to do rta raids with my friends such as stoney and zeto

[rapid jungle]

For something other than skating

[keen wasp]

I might have a heart attack

[pallid raft]

"you can die :(" is a bad argument against rockets

[neon siren]

Nah bruh they don’t have it

[delicate nimbus]

ARK was like idk 260 gb on my drive or smth

[modest bison]

no, because a wipe takes time

[cloud shore]

Was the raid leaked too…?

[modest bison]

if they just wanna learn the mechanics, why wipe 10 times

[delicate nimbus]

person below me thinks excalibur from warframe is cute

[reef coyote]

Dude why would rockets make you wipe

[cloud shore]

(Hope not)

[modest bison]

just cause you want the best damage phase?

[rapid jungle]

Are we allowed to talk about leaks

[neon siren]

So does arguing about doing linears for 30 minutes

[hallow wasp]

if there’s a fireteam that wipes themselves with rockets i might have to study them in a lab

[delicate nimbus]

maybe

[slim kernel]

ive been stuck with like 500gb for so long. too lazy to upgrade it

[pallid raft]

your gonna wipe 10 times to learn mechanics anyways so what is your point

[modest bison]

0 value added with that statement

[delicate nimbus]

try it

[sinful hemlock]

Dont think so but to be safe dont use twitter

[neon siren]

Nuh uh

[rapid jungle]

A lot of servers you can’t so I dont know

[lilac wraith]

name, mechanic buff names, mods and gear

[delicate nimbus]

that is wild.

[slim kernel]

no one got into the raid

[delicate nimbus]

try the #destiny-spoilers

[cloud shore]

No way dude… I really hope this doesn’t mess up day 1s

[reef coyote]

We know the raid will have yellow bars and a buff you have to deposit ☝️😨

[somber dawn]

@quiet coral you are obsessed with me

[slim kernel]

I only played small games for a while lmao, d2 monster hunter wilds and elden ring changing that

[lilac wraith]

dont think its enough to mess up day1 tbh

[delicate nimbus]

fr

[sinful hemlock]

Shiver me timbers

[frozen swift]

Wow Eventide labs map REEKS

[delicate nimbus]

@somber dawn wanna go out with me?

[thorn tulip]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stiff galleon]

true

[rocky geyser]

What are people gonna use now that izi is getting nerfed into the ground?

[rapid jungle]

BRO

[lilac wraith]

he uses the word ring too much

[subtle pagoda]

ill go out with u

[rapid jungle]

Orbs of power give radiant???

[delicate nimbus]

I get stage 4 ball cancer everytime i play it

[reef coyote]

Izi

[frozen swift]

🤝