#💬destiny-chat
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We all had 20!!
Its not working on week 4 it was a breeze week 3 idk
can you activate outbreak refined 2 without refined 1
Sting in both pve and pvp is bruh
skill issue
idk just get more hunters with blade barrage or titans with tcrash, warlock is the worst for sure
Action figure
adelynn when faced with any real argument or opinion differing from their own:
Tru ill swap to titan for the encounter and swap back to warlock afyer
ya
acrius
though I'd be perfectly fine with a sting rework to remove the wallhacks and give it something actually interesting. It definitely isn't high priority for a buff or rework
it has a form of target lock built-in, buffs airborne effectiveness, built-in wallhacks just by looking at someone, always-on radar, more radar sectors when crouching which INCLUDES sliding
Ngl... i might just stay on titan tho
Why am I in flawless pool after doing passage of persistence?
i think pantheon is too hard
knucklehead is kind of a ridiculous exotic for pvp
I like titan more than Warlock
Rip
I know
its 4 exotics in one its crazy
i think it was too easy
ok cheater
each to their own
are u a time traveler?
yes
ive never had the summoner before is there still a chance i can get it this week or does it need to be in rotation
I wish bungie made it so darci could counter all champ types, it'd be lore accurate
i can see week 3-4 pantheon being a little harder
but like week 1 and 2 should be pretty easy
Never did flawless in my life and never will because I suck completly
im switching to hunter 🙂
rejoice
no im ending myself right after
hunter is so overpowered rn its funny
there's like 3 titan exotics that badly need a rework and that's it
Titan is more fun than Warlock
Warlock is more fun than Hunter
can someone tell me how to get the 1st screeb in warlords ruin to respawn? i killed it by accident
u can't be in flaw pool unless you travel back in time
most balanced class in the game 
warlock just isn't fun
titan is solocarried by strand which is by far the best thing ever
there is no way you actually think hunter is overpowered
warlock is too much fun
Mask of the Quiet one
Hallowfire Heart
Hunter definitely dodged a lot of crap
Titan Is basic wdym
because its a balanced class
im back from my timeout chat
there is barely anything broken about hunter
Warlock is best and most fun to use
Strandlock >>>
I didn’t go to lighthouse and I lost many many games on my card
ive learned my lesson not to say 1983
hallowfire is fine for now. it's mainly path of burning steps icefall and quiet one
alpha is delusional 100% percent
anymore
Why am I in flawless
arc hunter did get a pretty bug nerf though
its like arguably the best class rn but they're all at least similar before the balance changes coming
it's just by far the best excluding strand titan outliar, or the need for a well
hallowfire is behind a few other exotics too
%^2
like stand asides and dunemarchers
there's no competition except for the 2 outliars
that doesnt mean its overpowered
meow
Mow
Hi chicken
chicken
in pvp hunter is pretty op only matched by solar warlock due to icarus dash
it is in comparison to the other classes
Hallowfire got worse with the rework, change my mind
then buff the other classes
hi coupe hi radio hi H hi adelynn hi naomi
bad take, titan is still meta, has been forevert
Anyone know how to deal with switches not working before onslaught final boss
no??? we're already too strong
they have generally the best pvp exotics due to being the gunplay class and their abilities aren't shabby either
hunter is by no means overpowered, its just that warlock and titans are underpowered
we need to nerf everything
hi ian
Yooo
if thats what you are saying
hard crutching on stasis slide
Hey quick question? If my new light friend spams ikelos smg from Xur can he get deep sight ones?
hi chicken
Ngl bruh I don’t think week 3/4 pantheon is for me
tell me one broken hunter exotic
?? it's not stasis titan, it's void overshields lol
no
yes
If he buys 1000
Helloo
then just don't do it
and no lucky pants is not broken
its not?
void overshields don't matter when your cooldown on them is 5 rounds of trials
It is 😭
chat spittin rn
it is absolutely insanely broken
im telling u this guy is delusional
how the hell are lucky pants broken
Mf sat at xur for red borders 
explain to me

Dats da plan. I got le oryx emblem and honestly I’m fine with it. Besides the title and emblems are just vanity options anyways /j
removes the issue of ammo economy from the game?
lucky pants is pretty broken in endgame content (as defined by bungie)
free heavy ammo every 10 seconds is broken
Bungie help blight ranger, it looks so good
Crazy dummy primary dps on a 10 second cooldown
lucky pants are broken
what are u yapping about
seriously decent burst damage from primaries not even exotics
it's like, annoyingly hard. not hard just like, irritating
Does anyone of have the chiasmus quest? I can’t get it in lair and it has the last starcat I need
10 second cooldown, 5.5 second window of damage, debuff on any weapon swap, fully loaded AND kinetic hc condition
breaking ammo economy without aeon or ceno is pretty good for one class to have alone
lucky pants makes solo hunter caretaker possible
celestial is really good right now, ses are really good, RDM give hunter the best dps in the game, lucky pants are broken
Its not HARD hard. Just gotta find the right strats and not die
IM GONNA FAHGIUOJ@IO!HO GSA LKF 1 one
Surprised it didn't get nerfed but I ain't complaining on more exotics getting added to the sea of trash we have
One message removed from a suspended account.
anywhere where you need to take out a champion or other miniboss just use lucky pants to get rid of them in 2 seconds
what are you stuck on rn
Just got an invite to a team trynna do pantheon with ft finder 💀
and if you miss your shots tough luck
This is worth the benefits its not even funny lol
hi reshay
nezarec BOSS and then thats it, im god
how are u
skill issue there aren't that many bad exotics you're just bad
out dpsing special weapons with a primary is inherently kind of stupid, but its not even like slightly beating out most specials either, its got a pretty dumb gap
like what you're shooting an ad in pve you're not missing
there are like two good hand cannons in the entire game actually worth using it on and one of them is an exotic
and there's no significant downside to missing
Yeah ok adelynn whatever you say buddy
yes? so??
malf and wardens with lucky pants are broken haha
i would say its pretty fair using it for an exotic slot
for hunters btw. there's like 3 exotics that badly need a rework maybe 4
by far the best standalone exotic in the game rn
if it was allowed for ANY hand cannon, then it would be kinda busted
no, it'd be the exact same
but its kinetic only and it doesnt have auto loading holster anymore
can you activate outbreak refined 2 without refined 1
you can just put on a mod for that if you want it
it has plenty of potential drawbacks
kinetic holster is actual ass
damn, whats the issue it seems, what's everyone usin
of course the notorious 2 arc super exotics, sealed ahamkara. and maybe young ahamkara depending on if they could just buff it again or if it'd get a rework
like only being able to deal heavy dps with no ammo cost every 10 secconds?
The drawback is that there's a cooldown
such a drawback..
we only had 1 well
the notion of its limited so its fine is really weird. it being usable anywhere just trivializes certain things and its usable everywhere
I'd say Gwisin needs a rework but void hunter would need one first
if you forget to reload, tough luck
kinetic holster isnt worth using
please bungie rework void hunter I'm begging you the aspects are just go invisible that's all the subclass does it sucks so bad please bungie please
😭 skill issue
void hunter really doesn't need a rework for gwisin to not be complete dogass
You can reload, swap off and swap back
^^
i quit, it was 3 wells, 3 celestials, 6 sleeper
it doesnt activate cd
or neat little trick: ||pull out your ghost||
works every time
any rework to Gwisin could just be a rework to void or would suck because spectral blades is a pvp super with way too long a cooldown to be worthwhile in pvp
You're proving our point 😭
wow what an insane drawback
gwisin is one of the few exotics i'd argue is actively harmful to run because you have to also use the worst dogass super in the entire game and roam with it to get value
it needs to be changed badly
it's an amazing pvp super. but you never get to use it in pvp
in final shape you are gonna sacrifice an exotic slot for maximum lucky pants dps so its kinda fair tbh
there's 0 reason to run anything other than one off supers in pvp
am I pretty 🙂
Where would I LFG to get a specific season story mission
like what?
that's sick
i forget our classes, but we had 1 well for sure, solar titan for me, and we went GL's, no div, on the left side
you are gonna be using malfeasance if you want good dps
it was made in a time when spectral blade was the best super in the game
and tbh, my lfgs killed the shielded enemy everytime too
wardens is getting a 17% nerf
wardens law is still good??
now its bad bc spectral sucks
i think most people skip them, but my group wanted them dead
personally setting aside how the void hunter aspects force them to do invis and only invis. they should give spectral blades ramping damage already
i was on gaze
womp womp
i am killing the collosussy
we 3-phased him
i don't think its 17% but assuming it is, it's still broken? 😭 still 1 bursting champs in master WITH A PRIMARY
also let it apply weakening
its 17% on bosses*
see now i HAVE to 2 phase because i dont have riven cp
should have clarified
make hits and kills give your super a damage boost with weakening to take out larger targets too
ok i don't care about boss dmg im using it for champs usually
ahhhh that's annoying, yeah i started @ riven for that very reason
it's only needed for boss dmg in lowmans
also we need a spectral blade based void hunter melee already. make it a dash or something like uuuuh
oh god
also not needed, but still
i think thats my best option, 2 phase is really hard especially with lfg dmg output
like genji from overwatch
spectral blade 
also i think bungie didnt nerf lucky pants because there will be quite a few burst hcs in final shape
they want people to actually USE THEM
name an exotic that is better than lucky pants then
welp, you got like 8 more days, gl!
cowl
LOL
nerf in the second or third season then
😭 😭 😭 😭
if you are arc hunter, cowl is crazy
😭
wym 8
issue is of course, the longer it goes, the more people clear, the less people will want to do it
cowl is so mid comparitively
i want rhulk so bad
div is good. u just press lmb and chill. why ppl don’t want to run div smh
no bro
lucky pants, nighthawk, ass cowl, rdms
real
only 1 more week left of pantheon after reset. more than 8 days, but whatever
celestial, gyrfalcon, omni, assassin cowl on arc or solar, star eater,
i mean free heals + invis on any melee or finisher is pretty strong
uchur were you always na
10 days to be precise
and arc hunter goes crazy with melees
what is this list 😭
omni is sure as hell not better than lp
I need to whip up a quick solar titan build for pantheon to capitalise on the surge
none better than LP except some unusual uses of SES goldy chaining which is being removed
yeah next week it won't be solar i dont think
star eater is getting a moderate nerf already
so this is prob the best week to complete pantheon
nah rankbot sent me to mute jail this morning and i didn’t change region since
You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.
lucky pant -> celestial -> star eating -> cowl -> who cares
what should I whip up?
on goldie anyways
gyrfalcon is very mid nowadays
not necessarily cause the effect is bad, but because void hunter is bad outside of super spam in onslaught
whats the mountaintop pve god roll?
whatcha get muted for?
the moderate nerf: picking up 2 more orbs before dps supering
Auto and recomb
alh + recomb
i used phoenix cradles on solar titan for anything that doesn't really need dps super
the damage boost it provides is still nice
infinite goldie chain was kinda ridiculous
thats possible?? wth
and omni is omega cope and very very bad
that way everyone can kinda easily heal from me
was super funny though
really? wouldn't a healing nade be enough in most content?
yes
for posting name of in-game stat
Omni is so overrated omg
yes you want alh + recom/frenzy
its beautiful
phoenix cradle I can only really see in planets
im dead in game
both are good
ah the classic
maybe nezzy
oh it is yes, but i thought it might be nice to help a bit extra, let everyone get healing via my flames
lucky pants' damage boost is infinitely higher and repeatable and doesnt require special or heavy ammo
if you want to look at certain weapons for their perks, you can go to d2foundry 🤗
as well as longer sol buff
and on any subclass
phoenix cradle for planets is foul
The prettiest princess
if you want warlock and titan to be competitive with hunter in terms of overall viability, tell bungie to buff some of the mid ass exotics
ive never had the summoner before is there still a chance i can get it this week or does it need to be in rotation
i found good success on riven, since i don't need to tcrash or pyrogale
hunter is in a good spot
orrrrr nerf hunters
ah I get it. I'm thinking of probably running pyrogale for everything outside of planets and nezzy
meow
You CAN get it, but you have to hope it drops from a random engram (not from a match drop)
arc hunters already got dunked on with the cowl nerf
imm right stop
for stuff i needed to do dps on that made sense with a super, i went pyrogale
solar hunters got a nice quality of life buff
tho, i guess tcrash is better on caretaker
how much hope do i need cause trails kills all my hope for life
yeah how about nerfing 1 meta thing and then not buffing anything else, just buff 1 other thing alot so we have something else to choose
tcrash on atraks as well
we're too strong right now that's the issue
quite a bit, since the drop is fighting multiple other ones
the armor update was really underwhelming
have been for like 2.5 years now
cause like, even after sunbracers nerf people will still run sunbracers cause what the hell else would they run
on golgy i THINK if you pyrogale super him, he flinches and turns to the side, so i only supered on final dmg orb
that's cus they didn't tell us anything about stuff we know was coming
they changed like 3 exotics in each class and called it a day 😭
the nerf does nothing
Verity’s brow but yeah sunbracers is still good
only thing i can think of is ceno and thats ALSO nerfed
but agreed there is nothing else good
We KNOW there's a saint 14 update but they didn't even include it
no, just no
Its heat rises thats the big thing
verity is situational
50% less uptime is kinda crazy if you ask me
Thank god for ceno nerf
you just didn't read it right at all
Yeah it does turn him to the side, had to swap out supers because of it
its 50% less bonus time, not overall time
you get to throw 1 less grenade, and the nades last 8 seconds instead of 10
ohhhh
Alright maybe not veritys.
thanks bungo
That's not the nerf, I don't get why people think it is, they state it on the armor part lol
only place i would use verity's is atheon
this is in lfg which assumes no cooperation
Still tho. Just eat one nade and then melee in air, and profit
can you not see future trials weapon rotations on the API or anything?
so how long are solar nades now on sunbracers
8 instead of 10
after update
solar warlocks try not to subsitute their horrible aspects with exotics challenge
eh thats still kinda insane
without touch of flame its 6 instead of 8
thats like what a 20% damage nerf
like what
more mobile games
why are we talking about dps for solar nades
not the end of the world
how are solar aspects horrible
yeah the nerf does nothing
i think lucky pants is insaner
you dont use em for damage against anything but minibosses
obivously, but they're different usecases
icarus dash can't build. touch of flame doesn't give new ways to use grenades and can't build
the depressing fate of solar warlock is that you just shouldn't use ic dash for harder content
ToF builds are all just the exact same as grenade builds with ToF not actually impacting them
oh that's another thing, call it bad or even redundant, but i use ember of benevolence when i use phoenix cradles
new ways to use grenades 💀
bro the only things grenades are used for are killing ads or tick damage on bosses, stop coping
Icarus dash just can't build and shouldn't have been a single asoect
I want a second melee for void hunter
touch of flame is great for both
Touch of winter gives new ways to use grenades. you can use the stasis crystal in improved duskfield for an actual damage proc etc
i want a second melee for every subclass that has only one
its ok because prismatic will just be better than void and you wont have to run snare bomb anymore
solar 2.0 charged healing nade was great too
almost like the only thing touch of flame buffs.. is grenades..
Real
cope
almost like it sucks at being an aspect because all it does is straight buffs
Yeah that may be the route tbh
increase roaming super regen in pve
anyone got taniks cp here?
would you say touch of thunder on arc titan is also a bad aspect then?
if you don't see how solar warlock aspects suck you shouldn't be talking about buildcrafting tbh
Hi 2bular
🐗
it's slightly better than touch of flame because it adds verbs to the grenades that weren't there before
hi
Uchur is NA, welcome to North America Euro!
hi im swithcing to hunter and giving up
what verbs are there to add for solar nades...
anyone else absolutely hate the word "corny"
they all scorch
hi radio
resto on solar nades
jolt 😈
hi xuwu
stop talking about js you psychopath
ok prismatic
hai
hi conyawn
Ignition
mf living and breathing the worst language known to man
yeah that's the problem. they could've at least done what the strand warlock aspect did and give new ways to apply stuff
🗣️
hi fcxik
also cure/resto from damage grenades
or they could've had a secondary perk
the cure on grenade kill fragment in question
Chat im not hungover, yay
make tof resto nades like volt 2 conclave augment
those are already fragments so would be no point
I was this morning 
what were you drankin
like idk. scorched targets dropping cure pickups or spreading scorch on death
ive brought up these exact points against adelynn before its not worth it
Tequila while doing a week 4
damn, you know what else has a fragment but is on an aspect?
nice
jolting grenades.
rip
i stick to beer nowadays lol
hi connie
and you know what that means? an entire free fragment slot to use
theres literally a fragment that spreads scorch to nearby targets iirc
It's ok, we got it done 😌
is it connie or conner
there isn't lmao
doesnt matter
lesssgooo
show me the fragment that makes scorched targets spread scorch on death
what nade gets jolt using touch of thunder
lightning grenades
you wanna spread scorch? use ember of char, ashes and incandescent.
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Ive suggested this for chaos accelerant, nade kills giving volatile rounds
"Your solar ignitions spread scorch to affected targets"
456
isnt that the one everyone uses in pvp
there is one that spreach scorch more to affected targets
you will literally be scorching everything with that
789
idk.
ember of char mentioned
grrr... rankbot im going to touch you
I love ember of char
solar is good it will be good still but need other things from other subclasses
ME FIRST
sunbracers got an effective 36% nerf
according to adelynn fragments arent allowed to synergize with aspects unless they say so
i mean it sounds like a lot on paper but its not a massive deal in practice
tbh the 3.0 subs (ALL of them) need new fragments
ember of char: ignitions apply scorch to enemies damaged by the explosion
so idk why we are having this convo
big up
but btw. ToT lightning grenades give new use and buildcrafting through fragments like "defeating a jolted target creates an ionic trace"
give me my 6th fragment slot dammit
damn that sure doesn't read "scorched targets spread scorch on death"
hmmm according to me void fragments needs some rework for sure
also void aspects are a joke
with how sunbracers work, not really
Does someone knows the secret triumph on the node.avalon?
@tame forum amogus
its like slamming your head into a brick wall and every time you do it says skill issue
agmgomgosgmoasgmosgomas
the big thing is you can throw one less grenade now
funny question - anyoone got a taniks cp ?
which i guess is noticeable
He has been summoned
guess i just confused it with incandescent
also the 1st solar nade has more affect on damage than the subsequent ones because the actual grenade doesnt stack, so as far as dps goes thats not even true
god. I wish solar warlocks had incandescent as an aspect perk
its a 36% effective nerf
also why wouldnt you just use pulse nades and generate like 5-10 ionic traces from hitting a single ad a bunch
it's insane they don't tbh
nobody would pick it tbh
idk that's what I usually do anyways.
3.0 as a whole needs some minor reworks. feel like only the hunter subs and solar titan have any thought put in them
because adelynn hates the way the game was designed
I would
why not?
incandescent kinda overrated
goes crazy with ember of ashes
real
real
💀
they tried to condense 3 whole skill trees into just 3 aspects and some fragments
does legend exotic rotator give more loot
but over all subclasses have been buffed/nerfed no
group of 5 ads = an ignition
ember of ashes goes crazy without needing incan
a single snap melee and everything explodes and you get 5 solar nades to throw
also the benefits from scorch related fragments
1 snap melee = ignition
U only need 3 ads if u have ashes equipped
4 now after nerf + less time
god i wish enhanced incan with ashes dished out 50 scorch
im talking right now, not in tfs
would be insanely strong
incandescent should've been a secondary perk on either touch of flame or icarus dash
did u complete vexcalibur stuff?
when is the red subclass coming out
not much time left budddy XD
its just not, add clear is unaffected because rarely is that 5th grenade needed
did normal avalon and forgot about it
yeah a lot of them are strong, but that doesnt mean theyre well designed in terms of their identity
see you next year
Makes more sense of touch of flame
let's do legend
when is next year
my solo ct damage is 4k less per plate !!!
yes i know, im just talking on paper from a hypothetical perspective
idk man i love using heat rises and icarus dash
and if bungie kept burning targets spreading burn on death through incandescent from scorched targets dying
im down
then its not effective
not today though
you'd get your melee back faster allowing for more of the pyromancer/burning identity and more ignitions
only thing thats affected is total damage from throwing the sunbracer nades on a boss
for like solo templar stuff on warlock or dragons breath stuff
@somber snow do you see why I'm extremely upset at solar 3.0 warlock yet?
bro ive done the corruption spreads 3 vault puzzle twice but its not giving it to me. why?
idk seems like youre just coping
I'm coping hard with how bad the rework was yeah
why do you need more scorch when everything dies anyway
I dont wanna set the wooorld on fiireee
idk why warlocks act like sunbracers are dead
because warlocks are supposed to be the burning class and they have no way to support that or benefit from it
they just got a slap on the wrist
why do you need more ability regen when singeing + searing + benevolence + heat rises exist
bro those you tube reels omg XD
Does someone knows the "secret entrance" of node.arv.avalon?
only the low iq ones are lmao
the only people still playing warlock crutch on exotics so incredibly hard
EMPERYEAN
empyrean doesnt give ability regen...
with prismatic you can turn an arc nade into a stasis turret, but with getaway artist you should be turning that nade into an arc soul; how will these two interact in your opinions?
because I don't like heat rises and because the ranged melee sucks really bad rn due to being inneficient at everythign it does
i have 5 iq and i don't mind this nerf
it just extends radiant and resto
Me using starfire 🥺
i think solace is better tbh
but it gives survivability + free damage boost uptime
Warlock’s good
snapshot rampage on a grenade launcher
for higher end content, chaining solar kills isnt guaranteed
i think the aspect takes over
also because more scorch would work with 2 of these things?
solace is a guaranteed 15 sec radiant
ofc it is no one is doing day one without warlocks trust
and 5? sec resto
every class crutches certain exotics when playing certain subclasses.
thats like the definition of a build
GODROLL
nah. not like solar warlock does
yeah I think that's the likelier option too, would be cool to see some unique interaction though
hunter crutches infinitely more on assassins cowl than warlock does on any other exotic lol
you can already get up to 15 without solace
solace just increases the time after the initial proc of radiant/resto
solar warlock only has one unique thing for builds without exotics and that's heat rises
i dont get it something is in the game use it and make the best out of it why you crying over if its not working for you
i dont understand why exotics being a base for a build is a bad thing
adelynn hates people playing the way they want to
Is rangefinder bad now? Never see anyone run it in pvp anymore
other than heat rises solar warlock is base solar builds and exotics
I dunno I usually crutch orpheus/celestial/lucky pants when I play hunter
ok then i want you to guess what exotics i use on solar lock
titan and warlocks crutch super hard more than hunter
zoom doesnt give range anymore
because a subclass shouldn't live and die by an exotic
its still alright but most modern guns have better perks nowadays
it..doesnt?
solar warlock has on demand resto x2 which is also nice
Not the boy kisser thing 😭
isnt it cure x2
guess what exotic i use the most on solar lock
Which is the easiest/farmable gm this season?
without exotics what unique builds does solar warlock have?
bro ive done the corruption spreads 3 vault puzzle twice but its not giving it to me. why?
the corrupted or hypernet current
itself?
exotics are like 70% of a build
without exotics what unique builds does any subclass have
skill issue
this take is delusional
heat rises active = resto 2x on dive
healing nade with the aspect or heat rises with phoenix dive both grant resto x2 in different ways
exotics are like 30% of a build
this is straight up wrong
most of your build should come from your aspects and then your abilities
?
- emperyean ezz stuff
dawnblade has 2 of the 4 ways to activate resto 2x
then fragments come in too
yea no, you do not have authority to talk about buildcrafting if THIS is your take
excluding weapons, your exotic is generally what defines your build
how
How many times is adelynn gonna say skill issue 😭
solar lock doesnt need an exotic specific to the subclass to work because the base kit it so strong
you could run tsteps the whole time and be fine because haha heat rises + dive = infinite resto x2
the other 2 are strongholds and release recover 😭 😭
you build most of your armor and subclass around your exotic
Make sure to pull her string on her back to make her say the funny line
idk why this is even an argument
armor mods are gutted so yeah exotic is most of the build nowadays
of which one is locked to a raid
chat should you use meta or use what you like
both
depends
depends
Strongholds with lament for nez dps
a little bit of both
if I make a consecration build almost everything from that build is coming from my subclass
if you go back to cwl era then maybe armor mods are more of your build and exotics are less but armor mods are one dimensional nowadays
tlord

It depends on the build
Reap!
very one dimensional

tlord
like most of the mods are kinda mid
depends
if in low light activities, do whatever
if in stuff like pantheon or day one raids, use meta
if we are in wq year im abusing tf out of elemental wells
Coope!
even sunbracers only works as well as it does because of fragments and heat rises
only good ones are siphon, finder and loader tbh
guys noo solar warlock is supposed to be the burning subclass, even though it talks about being aerial a bunch and also warlocks are naturally support oriented, they cant do those and should only burn
use meta coz its good obviously and thats what will help you clear things easily and use funny things if everone agrees to running it simple.
and special finisher/surges
i count that as part of cwl era, maybe combat style mod era would be better term
Still haven't forgave you for how you touched me in customs 😭
running sunbracers without searing and heat rises is just stupid
no, you should be sweating af even during normal patrols
I touched everyone in customs
its the burning and healing subclass despite the lore behind it literally just being the story of icarus !!
you get it
@sour trellis I saw that, send link again
Voreteks was the only one actually putting up a fight
@sour trellis can you send again i dint see
bungie literally told us solar warlock was supposed to be "really good at burning things but also like the best healers"
when
i keep a scavenger mod on the boots on my ad clear build, and targetting and dex mods on my dps build. these three mods are still good but more situational
I was also going pretty easy, i could have used 450 sidearms which are significantly better than 260’s
solar 3.0 video
please tell me you are using scav on rockets
hoping they mean pre damage and damage
also warlock does burn well, it has scorching and igniting melees, and applies more scorch by having better grenades
hgls
He was using forbidden techniques
scav during damage is wild
tbh bungie also told us glaives were going to be useful in harder content
it burns and it supports, it does exactly what they said it should by those standards
yes i mean this, whatever build i have setup for when im damaging is the one that has surges/dex mods/targetting mods
it doesn't burn better than the other classes. it doesn't have an aspect to facilitate or benefit from scorch

they were for like a season
glaives are high risk low reward
me
i dont see an incentive to use a glaive
I keep scavs on bc im too lazy to switch stuff around
it doesn't do a good job at that
glaives should give dmg resistst st resist
you shouldn't use promotional material to back up your claims, it's mainly made just to catch your attention and not much else
5% extra weapon damage !!
then why not just keep surges on
touch of flame facilitates scorch, again the melees scorch, phoenix dive scorches too
Me omw to throw the warmind cell at the boss for a debuff
2 surges one scav
no it doesn't
tbf if glaives were more focused on the block part, theyd be pretty useful, since they give like 97.5% DR
touch of flame doesn't facilitate scorch those grenades already scorch
I miss warmind cells
there isn't a significant improvement in scorch from ToF
theyre hitting more and therefore scorching more
i never got to use warmind cells
Tangles are just weaker warmind cells
they were stupid
im very sorry for you
but sandbox was just really good with cwl+wells when you got good with it
Which No debuff
unfortunate
You know what'd facilitate scorch? and you know what warlocks had before 3.0?
warmind cells were either use global reach for free nukes every once in a while or make a stupid build out of them
This is only true for solar nade and thats because of the duration
burning enemies spread burn on death
also if you think solar warlock doesnt scorch better than hunter you're delusional
firebolt hits more targets therefore more scorch
They scorch the same
gunpowder gamble+ignitions apply scorch+knife trick
warmind sells
with all of the passive dr and effective hp we have, using a weapon slot for active dr that slows you down to a crawl can't be consistently good, at best very situational
My balls itch, then burn. Therefore more scorch
warmind cells should come back as atitan exotic in the same way as necrotic grips
yeah but who's using firebolt
i always wanted to try the one that made them explode in solar and the one that generated a cell on solar kills
Pvp players
giga infinite loop
if I got something from scorch on warlocks I'd use firebolt
knife trick scorch isnt even enough to ignite like warlock's, also thats a fragment scorching and not even the subclass at that point
a fragment with gunpowder gamble specifically
like i said, if the focus was more on the block part
I feel like we need a new set of mods
but rn the only glaive that benefits tangibly from blocking is vexcal
gunpowerder gample will be buffed to deal more damage than blade barrage
a fragment that works on warlock's melee that also ignites instantly and has a way faster cd and also works with the improved fusions and solars
we need to just revert back to pre lf mods
I'm just saying that even if glaives blocked 100% of the damage without needing to charge it up, I'd still be using other options
please please please please
The current set of ability focused mods are weak and useless
was so much more balanced
using a glaive over something like sunshot is crazy
it was more broken but you had to actually buildcraft to see the benefit
@stiff galleon I got the vid btw
Quick question: What dps build yall recomend for planets week 3 now that its solar/strand ? I used my apex predator yesterday and was not really good tbh
using a glaive at all is crazy
mfs remember armor affinity
Its apex 
what a time of pain that was
bungie says warlocks are the burning and healing class.
Look inside.
No burning and healing aspects
apex and cataphract are both the best options
Stasis lock was dummy good pre lightfall
🙂 more incentive to farm armor
fom <3
i think i spelled that wrong
im gonna have to get a better apex roll then
i actually didnt care about armor stats back then 😭
thanks tho !
nobody should be saying the solar warlock aspects are a good rework. and nobody should be saying they're about burning and healing
wild
try to craft one, you don't even need to do the raid this season
nah armor affinity had to go
bs system yeah
people should say the truth which is that the soalr warlock rework was short sighted and effectively only brought the top tree stuff into 3.0 leaving anyone who liked middle and bottom tree in the dust
added another layer of unnecessary rng
They are gonna need to buff stasis even more to make it worthwhile even after tfs
I dont have the pattern (I think) I really didn't played this season
stasis lock pre wq had the hidden permanent 40% dr strat
solar warlock is more about being airborne than it is about burning and healing
probably.
The frost armor is cool but its weaker than current dr abilities
spam the riven wishes. you can the pattern, level it at shuro chi or buy it, then craft with reconstruction Bait and switch
theyre easy to do tbh
Maybe, we'll see
wait
gotcha ! Thx !
tbh with how much warlock freezes I can def see the class having great frost armor uptime
if solar warlocks were meant to be the best solar 3.0 healers which basically just meant well
what are solar warlocks with the well nerf?
NP! i did them and got the weapon in a few hours id say.
Stasislock pre lightfall had me having 10 turrets on the field at oncd
all i know is that the stasis buffs will make the stasis cascade edge hunter rotation even better
not very good at burning. not the best healers. The best at being shelved if there's a grounded modifier?
THANK GOD FOR WELL NERF
Exotic glaive
well changes were pretty decent tbh
I think the well nerf should've gotten rid of the damage boost instead tbh
Lumina+ boots of assembler
The problem is that the frost armor is weaker than rime rn
the main reason well is popular is the damage boost anyways
who do you think is the best healer with the insignificant nerf well got
Yea there’s healing involved
why use other damage boost sources when well lasts longer
wdym
But like, is that gonna be better?
unironically strand titan
well and invincibility basically
What's rime DR
you get healing, you get to move away from frozen targets, hows that weaker?
berserker !!
rime dr is like 50% for 25hp
@atomic herald I saw that, send again
frost armour is better
that moment when banner titans have better healing than warlocks and hunters
I thought it was 40% for as long as you’re near a thing
strand titan is another case of bungie making something that'd be perfect for a solar warlock aspect and then not giving it to solar warlocks
Isn't rime Dr for crystals nearby
thats chains
Different fragment
like what
rime is the overshield fragment
Whatever
Ah
did the pyrogale cyclone scorch btw?
Bring back ammo to primaries
No
Please no
Make ammo drops meaningful
Make them not physic based objects
Warlocks are eating so good rn holy crap
1 million primary ammo boxes doesn't do that
i see like, 4 or 5 good things
prismatic hunter gonna go so hard with grapple
Im kinda upset about this change, i like using this fragment on verglas builds
Shoot to loot
and goldie as super
idot
Doesn’t make them NOT get flung by enemies
verglass goated
Yeah no terrible take
me when stasis crystal spam or something
Skill issue
.
Im happy that they’re doing something dramatic to stasis tho, it needs it
my goat!
Just pop a synth lol
is it worth running roaring flames over sunspot for pyrogale?
Pasta or pizza guys?
How is a walker slamming its fat carcass down and making the heavy that dropped next to get launched to space a skill issue?
the best possible pasta beats the best possible pizza
I use it a bit differently than most other ppl btw, I use it more defensively
I will use hoarfrost or precious scars with wicked implement next season
Bleak weavers has to be insane lol
Hmm… alr screw it ill get pasta
It will be neat
If you can't get the heavy ammo it wasn't meant to be
Personally I will be checking if icefall and ice armour stacks
If it does, then >:)
If you have StL you have a chance to snag it
Starting fights
Only if you're skilled tho
Ofc it will
wow
I don’t see why it wouldn’t but it’s bungie were talking about
Im using osimamcy next season to cause so much issues LOL
Might even use it for our week 4
I will miss the strand artifact perks so much

do it
Horde shuttle my beloved
next season im justing using agers with bakris or combo blow + exotic class item with caliban + syntho
this seasons artifact mods went so hard
Weavers bleak watcher with coldsnap grenades osimancy
@upbeat quarry does chains give everyone dr or just me
mewhen my arc melee with ingnite and do silly damage
Warlocks are eating like menaces
I really hope the stasis shatter artifact get implemented to base stasis kit
That's always been good
real. stasis will be significantly worse without them
LFS to get Touch of Malice catalyst
i never use stasis so i could care less about them
I think next artifact will focus on light subclasses mostly
Both
Since we get new light supers
Both
Stasis will be meta on all classes next season inshallah
doubt it :3
stasis hunter will be so good!
on skibidi
Does anyone know if you can get to the portal at Starcrossed on normal difficulty?
what's the value for argent ordnance?
anyone know any fixes for not getting major arcana cards from the relcaimant of savathun? my friend hasd been doing it for 13+ hours and still hasnt gotten the major arcana for the bounties (to unlock bounties)
me when like 20% trace buff !! and my bakris makes it another 20% oh my lord I might explode from this
I hope strand titan will still be good next season despite the nerfs
it will be
youll still be near immortal, dw
for always on time sparrow
is custom drive better than tuned drive, whats exactly the difference?
I think it’ll be cooked but it might be ok
is it worth to run argent ordnance for pantheon in the artifact?
man, trials pool is way smaller than I thought it'd be today
same ppl 4 matches in a row
It’ll be more useful as a survivability tool than a damage tool
ones faster ones slower
its 190 vs 160 speed iirc, go with the one that makes it 190
is custom one faster?
compendium says 15%
faster, less maneuvers
slower, better maneuvers
and it should stack with everything yeah?
yeah
Got it, thanks
Guess I'll run it for pantheon
what 3 stats armor should i be trying to get for pvp and pve respectively? I have around 100 seasonal engrams i need to focus and i want to try and get good stats for once
anyone with the fragment
the one I can't say mainly. then resilience and the last one depends on what you're using
intellect you can generally ingore though unless you're a void titan or solar warlock
only way to share stasis dr is renewals currently
ok
Resilience, Recovery and Discipline for PvE, replace discipline with mobility for PvP
the fact that there is one we cant say because of unfortunate naming is still hilarous
I'd say int is also good for one off supers to counter bubble and well but honestly just use consecration
replace rec0very for mobility on hunter
how did he say it???
how tf can you say it
tf
maybe capital idk
wrong
What are ya'll talking about?
you usually get warned for using rec0very
the word after resilience in your message is muted by the bot
recovery
recovery
no way
wtf
recovery>
finally
im takin a chance here
nothing happened
did they change it??
recovv
NAH! I DID NOT GET WARNED ONCE ABOUT USING IT JUST SO THEY CAN CANGE IT
Cheers 😁
LETS GOOO
chat i got godslayer 😭
ok
for crafted cataclysmic are best perks these?
arrowhead break\enhanced battery\4times\bait ?
cant say rec0v tho
resil, dis, recovery for warlock, resil, dis, and strength for titan, resil, dis and mobility for warlock

yuh
4 n half hours fk
cataclysmic in this economy
nice
This servers rules are weird asf ngl
idk if i forgot to clarify my class when i was asking about stats. i am a solar warlock
the most mundain stuff is blocked, like wtf
LMAO WHO WAS THAT
@sour trellis send again
Bots
who sets the rules for this server? Bungie?
WHO GOT GOT
honest to god might switch to mobility on warlock
skibidi dop dop yes yes
I THINK I RECOGNISED THAT PFP
they come directly from Sony's board

is charge time best for masterwork?
yuh
r3tards everywhere running the show it seems
Alright I think I have a decent setup for a solar titan build
womp womp
I disagree
what week is it for savatuhn's spire
just a flat dps increase so yueh
Cool can you help me get some better stuff then?
the current one
its just basic discord ToS+bungies rules against cheating lol
whats blocked
If you pay me 1 morbillion dollars I will
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
true
the word rec0v
only if you say it's morbin time and morb all over the witness
o lmao well its so goons dont advertise
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
we know
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
not true
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
this stat setup hurts me
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
hello
I've got 101 resilience and 100 str bu 49 disc
And they will not fix it
I don’t have Boots of the Assembler warlock boots how I get them
Btw ya'll, ever since Bungies latest patch update on console bout 2 months ago, its made text and voice chat permanently disabled
@slim bolt 
Typical bungie
heya! i got godslayer 🔥
Erm...what the sigma? :3
im so lost on crafting as well as getting high stat armor
whats confusing
for LL do i need to kill every enemy for the exotic drop or just all champs?
mid
champs
i only need to clear tbh, dnc about the title atp
all champs
ty
just champs, but any that spawn after boss are free game
i somehow got it all done in like idk 6 hrs today thank fk
i have the engrams but should i focus them into specific armor pieces or what... i dont want to waste anything
May have to send a ticket, and good luck on them fixing it or seeing the ticket
I don’t have Boots of the Assembler warlock boots how I get them
lls
and for crafting just like wtf is going on. i have like 4 deepsight harmonizer stored in season pass (no idea what they do). the only thing i have crafted is the enigma glave
why on planets 3rd plate gives imune?
amogus potion at 3 am
did you stand inside of the buff circle fully?
the radius effect is larger than the actual buff effect
deepsight harmonizers give certain weapons the weapon progress so you can craft the weapons in the enclave
yeah ik. at least golfballs are extremely common rn
guys is it worth farming for a zen moment elsies
Go do all of Mara sovs wish quests and buy all the Last Wish Weapons
best thing i got rn is keep away headseeker
yes
and its disgusting
wre9ong
might as well wait for next week when shiny weapons get a drop rate boost
i also have a wish token and dont know what to buy
buy apex predator
apex
ya we r , its imunne every time only on 3rd
one of the best rockets
time to stock up on tokens till then
then burn them all
😮
Apex Predator Rocket and The Sniper are a good place to start
if you replace the p with s, you get asex predator
ur doing the plates right correct? in alternating order ( ex. DLD, LDL )
what on earth
Apex Predator Rocket and The Sniper are a good place to start
a/sexual predator
ok i am going rn to buy apex. unrelated but what should i be trying to craft?
