💬destiny-chat

[lofty fjord]

Next to? And not inside?

[raven bramble]

I think so

[valid sand]

I looked at the nerfs and it really isn't that bad, banner titan is still very much usable

[wanton halo]

They are changing it

[fervent veldt]

^^^

[valid sand]

You just can't exploit infinte grapples for 1 2 punch

[lofty fjord]

Not with synthos

[wanton halo]

Standing next to it gives the shield now. Being inside it don’t

[valid sand]

It's so dumb that any nerf makes people think things are unusable

[stark relic]

Isn't it only Syntho and Wormgods damage w/ BoW nerfed?

[lofty fjord]

Wormgod + syntho

[wanton halo]

( which makes sense since you didn’t keep the overshield if@you left unless you are a void titan)

[lilac wraith]

among

[timid mica]

d2 player sees number go down and malds

[fervent veldt]

especially for the sunbracers one lmao

[modest bison]

starfire got nerfed, but i still use it to cross the ship jumping puzzle in KF

[wanton halo]

Bubble health also got a bump

Bubble should take more damage now

[stark relic]

Destiny players usually over exaggerate nerfs

[shadow jackal]

retail jobs

[valid sand]

That's crazy

[lofty fjord]

?

[valid sand]

Anyway, do D2 players really think Bungie intended for us to flick our mouse to grapple and one phase most bosses?

[frank horizon]

does mini calus tool drop from the duality dungeon or not?

[teal plaza]

no

[wanton halo]

The bubble one I don’t get either. Like it actually got better. The only bad thing is now wol is on saint.

[low totem]

FINALLY got an Adept Igneous: Arrowhead/Ricochet/Rapid/Precision/Handling MW

[valid sand]

The syntho nerf was reasonable, it's always been abused for the most broken melee builds

[lofty fjord]

Recent raid no
But old raids at 1600 yes, should be one phase-able

[fervent veldt]

i agree

[valid sand]

This is coming from a titan main

[upbeat quarry]

if they nerf syntho they meed to nerf wormgods too

wormgods has broken the game twice in a year

[tame forum]

they are

[wanton halo]

they did

[upbeat quarry]

or make winter guile the same as wormgods too

[valid sand]

Wormgod requires kills at least, syntho was literally just "be near enemies"

[lofty fjord]

And...? That's where the fun is
They literally said they want prismatic to feel broken

[upbeat quarry]

it was a blanket nerf on bow not to wormgods

wormgods is still 350% melee damage

[tame forum]

good enough

[manic flower]

Hello I am a relatively new player. When is it correct to go aeon armor? I got a really good roll on it but it seems kind of situational

[wanton halo]

Well they do need to make more things after fs

[valid sand]

And it still will be, 3 seconds isn't going to destroy your whole D2 experience

There's other exotics to use

[tame forum]

when your team needs ammo in a raid

[valid sand]

Including the class exotics

[wanton halo]

That's literally the problem, there barely is 💀

[lofty fjord]

Starfire nerf did
And now this

[wanton halo]

(Also the nerf wasn’t even touching damage from the buff. Just how long you can hold it once your not surrounded anymore)

[fervent veldt]

starfires nerf was justified too

[civic kettle]

synthos + combination blow

[lofty fjord]

Yeah, most exotics are mid to bad

[upbeat quarry]

starfire nerf cant be compared to 3 seconds less linger from a surrounded buff btw

[manic flower]

Is this literally it? Is the damage reduction to critically wounded not useful either? darn.

[wanton halo]

Sure if you only play strand

[upbeat quarry]

starfire went from 20% to 5% nade energy per proc

[valid sand]

I use quite a bit of them for various builds, they're all very usable. Just because something doesn't making the game a breeze or isn't meta doesn't mean it isn't good

Except for mask of the quiet one

[tame forum]

DR is for allies that are basically hugging you lol

[wanton halo]

Wasn't it 25% to 2.5%

[upbeat quarry]

idek

[lofty fjord]

There's probably one per subclass. 2 maybe
No one ever uses smth like battle harmony

[upbeat quarry]

it doesnt work anymore either way

[valid sand]

I feel like having mask of the quiet one on does literally nothing

[wanton halo]

Yeah I’m not going to lie a lot of the time the metas are usually how can we cheese this content

[upbeat quarry]

2.5 sounds more correct

[tame forum]

you could use the one that marks enemies since the 20% extra dmg for teammates is nice

[tribal lichen]

Do I actually own wq or is it just an event thing?

[modest bison]

its normal usage was nerfed, but it still has its use cases

[stoic void]

does wolfpack rounds hit riven eye?

[wanton halo]

Battle harmony is warlock

[tame forum]

event

[modest bison]

its just not OP anymore

[upbeat quarry]

not really

any skip it would be used for you can just do better

[lofty fjord]

You don't say, sherlock

[upbeat quarry]

other than ron 1-2

[wanton halo]

I think there are some exotics that deserve love like peregrines and path of burning steps but it is genuinely not worth it when something like wormgods exist

[modest bison]

yes, i mentioned a case earlier

[upbeat quarry]

you dont need starfire for ship skip 💀

[tame forum]

peregrine is fine tbh

[lofty fjord]

Void titan has doom fang, no one uses second chance

[valid sand]

Just because something is better doesn't mean you have to use it

[upbeat quarry]

the only skip you use starfire for is ron 1-2

[valid sand]

Use what's fun

[modest bison]

for solar warlock? yeah, you do

[upbeat quarry]

cause its the only skip you need 2 nades for

[wanton halo]

But synthos is titan

[wanton halo]

Ah yes, increased shoulder charge damage when I can just put on an exotic that gives me passive melee damage increase for being in situations that require your melee

[tame forum]

me when peregrine

[valid sand]

I agree, some things could maybe use a little bit of love, but they're still usable

[upbeat quarry]

i have like 25 clips of me hitting ship skip in 1 heat proc idk you just suck

[wanton halo]

Also battle harmony goes hard

[upbeat quarry]

watch any good player hit ship skip

[lofty fjord]

Not the point. Point is there's one good exotic per subclass and they nerf it to the ground everytime

[valid sand]

Time for Chromatic Fire and Revision Zero

[wanton halo]

Honestly my go to when I just want to shoot pew pews

[wanton halo]

Also doesn't mean the worse exotic deserves use either

[modest bison]

the wiggle room is much appreciated

[upbeat quarry]

what wiggle room

[wanton halo]

Been a battle harmony fan for so long I'm glad it got buffed

[modest bison]

not everyone no-lifes enough to master time-sensitive jumps

[upbeat quarry]

you should be getting to ledge with like 8 seconds of heat 😭 😭

[valid sand]

You're literally just being a meta slave and not letting yourself have fun by sticking only to what's top tier

[lusty summit]

no

[fervent veldt]

whats your thoughts on the sunbracers nerf

[languid crypt]

where would you even use another heat at

[wanton halo]

Bros acting like wormgods aren't fun to use

[tame forum]

infinite shoulder charges against champs is pretty solid imo

[wanton halo]

Eager edge certified

[lofty fjord]

Just use the other one that gives super energy on kills in well

[valid sand]

I don't use them enough to have an opinion since I rarely touch warlock

[upbeat quarry]

after light post skate i think ?? idk

[wanton halo]

Only works in well

[modest bison]

if "get good" was the solution, tons of builds would be out of the question... its about playstyle & ability to practice

[wanton halo]

there will always be better exotics over other ones
if bungie really brought down the hammer on nerfing, speedrunners would scream

[fervent veldt]

its a small nerf that basically did nothing

[wanton halo]

Tbf the good exotics for subs tend to be exotics designed for those subs vs entire kits

[lofty fjord]

Yeah but more energy

[wanton halo]

peregrines is cool at what it does and does it well

[fervent veldt]

WAIT I REPLIED TO THR WRONG PERSON???

I LOVE DISCORD HAHAHAHAA

[wanton halo]

Snytho is just busted since strand titans be busted

[modest bison]

starfire is only dead to pros

[fervent veldt]

whats your thoughts on the sunbracers nerf

[lofty fjord]

Synthos isnt, wormgod isn't, necrotic grip isn't

[wanton halo]

for whatever reason after x amount of messages pass the reply changes

[modest bison]

us lesser-experienced users still find it useful, which i believe was the point

[valid sand]

I do kinda wish that, since they're nerfing synthos, they'd at least reduce the delay for throwing hammers at enemies

[wanton halo]

And how many more of the good exotics are tied to subs

[upbeat quarry]

bracer nerf is no where near enough to actually make it bad

[modest bison]

starfire needed to be nerfed. it was all i used. now i've dug into other builds

[wanton halo]

Willingly to bet out numbers them by a good chunck

[modest bison]

i use sunbracers, but tbh, im not upset about the nerf

[fervent veldt]

holy i swear people overreact so hard to nerfs

[modest bison]

just tells me i gotta look into other stuff

[wanton halo]

Especially with how dumb the new warlock super is going to be

[fervent veldt]

and also balance for the game is healthy

[lofty fjord]

I believe only the duration nerf and grenade number nerf correct?
It's also too much. Duration would have been fine but should have kept it at 5 grenades

[sterile musk]

LF2M week 4 pantheon fresh 😄 dm me for inv link

[timid mica]

number went down why live

[civic kettle]

me when I find meta fun

[upbeat quarry]

not even sof being good because i fully believe it wont

[tame forum]

no

[lilac wraith]

meo w

[fervent veldt]

its fine

[upbeat quarry]

its just the nerf isnt doing anything because bracer isnt inherently the problem

[wanton halo]

your entire being repulses me

[valid sand]

For me, at least, using the same few items would get me bored pretty quickly

[sterile musk]

😦

[upbeat quarry]

its heat rises giving you both resto 2x and melee regen

[modest bison]

sunbracers is a problem though. its the new starfire

[civic kettle]

ngl the resto x2 should be removed

should only be x1

[sterile musk]

WRONG CHANNEL

[upbeat quarry]

so you can have perma post-nerf well healing and loop melee to proc sunbracer itself

[tame forum]

what if the same item gives dopamine every time you use it?

[sterile musk]

LMAO

[modest bison]

all solar warlocks use sunbracers now, it's the go-to. thats a problem

[sterile musk]

IM SORRY

[lofty fjord]

What exotic do you run with solar lock? Verity's?

[shadow jackal]

sigma

[valid sand]

It's the risk of basically hanging in the air

[lilac wraith]

lmao-c

[upbeat quarry]

tsteps 90% of the time

[shadow jackal]

stormbracer

[fervent veldt]

a valid nerf imo would be diminished returns with melee energy on heat rises when you have sunbracers equiped

[wanton halo]

I would be a meta slave too if a lot of it wasn’t based around being so broken nothing can challenge you

[sterile musk]

IM SORRY SO SORRY HAHA

[shadow jackal]

i wish my roll was good enough its like mainly strength i gotta get a better one

[upbeat quarry]

9% is bracer and the other 1% is veritys for like 3 encounters

[lofty fjord]

Then buff others. Don't nerf this to other exotics level

[lilac wraith]

stormbracer?

[wanton halo]

Phoenix protocol for GMs gonna be dead next season, high well uptime but resto x1 benefits are useless on GMs everything shreds

[civic kettle]

it's easier to nerf 1 exotic than buff 62

[lofty fjord]

Blueberry detected. Opinion rejected

[lofty fjord]

And that's what I have a problem with

[upbeat quarry]

epic jp chalice roast

[wanton halo]

That’s the thing

[shadow jackal]

i know SKULLFACE is not calling ME a blueberry

[tame forum]

isnt it x2?

[shadow jackal]

why are you on me again?

[wanton halo]

Warlocks are bout to be even more busted

[valid sand]

Just use that and a a doomfang

[wanton halo]

They will nerf it

[modest bison]

why would you rely on buffing? if something is OP, makes sense to nerf that one thing, rather than buff everything else

[wanton halo]

I’m willingly to bet the nerf was that hard because of there new super

[lofty fjord]

You said storm bracer bruh

[tame forum]

the next meta with the arc artifact perks

[lofty fjord]

That makes the game hard and not in a fun way

[modest bison]

the well of radience nerf? yeah, i agree

[shadow jackal]

bro took hook line and sinker

[lofty fjord]

We are not in next meta yet

[wanton halo]

No bracers

[modest bison]

no, it keeps things balanced, without affecting all other aspects of the game

[fervent veldt]

i think balancing is good for destiny 2 actually

[wanton halo]

Well got nerfed because with has been strong since It came out

[fervent veldt]

its healthy

[modest bison]

if you buff everything else, that has more impact than nerfing 1 thing

[wanton halo]

God forbid the ability called a SUPER is strong

[lilac wraith]

sunbracers is just restricted to add clear now, no more funny boss damage

[wanton halo]

It is just

[tame forum]

well being nerfed just means we get more content that doesnt have well in mind

[lofty fjord]

Just feels like they keep nerfing stuff and at this point, everything's been nerfed but enemy health and difficulty stayed the same

[wanton halo]

So strong that it will trivialize everything that isn’t a gm

[light matrix]

calus mini tool god roll?

[wanton halo]

So it took them 9 months to realize BoW titan was strong and nerf it right before TFS???? I don’t think so

[modest bison]

oh, i think bracers is getting nerfed cause its the new starfire. no one is making use of the other exotics

[wanton halo]

They didn’t even touch the well damage buff just health

[reef coyote]

Sunbracers hasn't been good for damage for a WHILE

[modest bison]

dont think the new super has much to do with it

[lofty fjord]

Same with starfire lmao

[tame forum]

unrelenting/threat + incan

[wanton halo]

Any other super can do this

[modest bison]

its been good for survivability & ad clear

[wanton halo]

It involves ability spam

[wanton halo]

Not like we’ll

[lilac wraith]

watch titan get something even better than grapple melee

[tame forum]

spectral blades

[modest bison]

many builds do

[wanton halo]

With well you won’t die

Just straight up

[modest bison]

you will die lmao

[lofty fjord]

They've been buffing chromatic fire for a while now. Dont see it being used

[wanton halo]

Only recently crota has challenged well

[shadow jackal]

I LOVE SAWANO HIROYUKI

[lilac wraith]

i am its only user

[wanton halo]

Outside of gms of course

[modest bison]

toms of times where ive died in a well. its not the "be-all", its just a very good crutch

thats coming from a wellock too

[wanton halo]

(Which is like 99% of the game)

[wanton halo]

How

Consecration got another buff

Genuinely how.

[hot magnet]

i heard shiny rates increasing next week is this true?

[modest bison]

because there are other forms of survivability

[lilac wraith]

so many yellow default pfppfs

[tame forum]

already did

[modest bison]

seems like bungie wants those to be used, based on their well nerf

[wanton halo]

What killed you

[lofty fjord]

Well counter shouldn't be nerf well, it should be designing the encounter such that staying in the well would mean significant risk. Like crota

[civic kettle]

suppression grenade in GM

[wanton halo]

All of the supers and their design philosophy can allow the ability to trivialize anything, thing is Bungie waters down most of them which makes it harder for other supers to find use

If it’s crota than that makes sense

[wanton halo]

Do y’all only play gms

[modest bison]

tons of ads

[wanton halo]

Again, how

[modest bison]

not only, but its a big thing

[civic kettle]

I mean it's easier to die in a well than u think

[modest bison]

do you not play GMs?

[wanton halo]

The dr makes you heal faster than they can kill you

[tame forum]

spectral only has a place in mayhem

[wanton halo]

Not only that no

[modest bison]

when playing low-level content, yeah

[lilac wraith]

spectral blade in GM

[wanton halo]

Honestly I’ll only do a couple of gms a season and stop there

[lofty fjord]

End of the day, no matter how much they balance, some stuff will always end up being meta. Supers, exotics, grenades, perks, you name it. It's not balancing

[tame forum]

slays in the cosmodrome frfr

[modest bison]

you can die in a well

[wanton halo]

Surprised no lucky pants nerf

[wanton halo]

Yeah in gms

[modest bison]

not just GMs, master content in general

master raids, master dungeons

[tame forum]

incoming disable for day one

[lofty fjord]

Too busy with the star eater scales 6 GG hunters

[low totem]

am i tripping or does Alacrity not work during solo Trials anymore?

[wanton halo]

Oh that too but I don’t do master raids since honestly they aren’t rewarding enough for me personally

[civic kettle]

bruh ur whole argument is invalid

[modest bison]

well its possible to die in a well. its OP for low-level content, but high-level content its more of a crutch

[wanton halo]

But idk it makes everything else kinda trivialized

[winged scarab]

it doesn't, it works once everyone else dies but not when its still a 3v3

[lilac wraith]

I hate lucky pant because i dont play hunter

[wanton halo]

Which is what people play the most

[lofty fjord]

The boss room in birthplace of the vile is a perfect anti well counter

[low totem]

that's lame asf, defeats the whole point what

[wanton halo]

Maybe balance them differently than idk

[wanton halo]

“Unhealthy for the game” as Bungie said

[winged scarab]

because its not meant for it being a 3v3 perk??? Its literally supposed to be activated once you're the last living member like?

[tame forum]

One Quiet Moment meta!!!

[civic kettle]

"how do you die in a well?"
doesn't play content where you can infact die in a well

[wanton halo]

Yeah because I don’t want to endlessly spam it

[modest bison]

thats what they're doing

[tame forum]

can die in well in onslaught

[lilac wraith]

cant die

[modest bison]

well will probably still be OP in low level content tbh, even with the huge nerf

[tame forum]

100% can

[wanton halo]

Isn’t the nerfs just universally

[modest bison]

but it wont be a crutch anymore in high level content

[low totem]

"Or running solo" needs to be removed then lmfao

[lofty fjord]

Everything's OP in low level content

[tame forum]

watched some dude blow up in my well once because every knight + boss blasted him

[wanton halo]

Some scorn crossbow guys and wyverns even -20 would disagree

[civic kettle]

wyvern will instakill u through well

[tame forum]

i despise wyverns

[lilac wraith]

i hate wyvern

[winged scarab]

solo as in nobody else is in the instance/game with you like a solo dungeon for example so its fine where its at

[lofty fjord]

Can tormentor grab in well and does well still heal you?

[tame forum]

so thankful to bungo for not adding vex to onslaught

[civic kettle]

id take vex over fallen

[wanton halo]

As long as there's no scorn or taken

[winged scarab]

Kinda stupid for them to say "last living member" in the perk for it to be active 24/7

[lilac wraith]

they made wyvern instakill u but the tormentor grab doesnt

[tame forum]

yes to both

[civic kettle]

bro what's wrong with taken 😭

[tame forum]

taken are fine tbh

[lofty fjord]

Fallen are mushy

[slow parrot]

Is the adept igneous hammer going away after this season??

[tame forum]

mostly just annoying

[wanton halo]

Axion bolts, psions, captain blights, taken ogres

They're all so damn annoying to deal with

[modest bison]

they jump around like lagging users

you try to proc on one, and they teleport away

[low totem]

yuh, last chance for an adept this weekend

[lilac wraith]

me when the psion duplicates 5 times to cheat death

[lofty fjord]

Those are red bars 😭

[wanton halo]

Shout-out to taken thrall for teleporting at random for no reason

[tame forum]

vandal bubbles

[civic kettle]

shoot the darts, kill psions, move out of the darkness bolt's way, don't use heat rises LOL

[modest bison]

only problem i have with taken is when they mess up the proc

[wanton halo]

Amazing advice bro

[civic kettle]

I forgot this is only a detriment for warlock

[lofty fjord]

I'd prefer taken. Gives me a reason to use lucky pants + malf

[wanton halo]

I was actually making friends with the psions before this, thanks for telling me to kill them

[slender stone]

Heat rises works wonders for me in that encounter

[modest bison]

yup, caught me

[civic kettle]

clearly u have problems with the literal fodder enemies of the faction

[wanton halo]

If the taken is fodder then every other race is basically an ally

[modest bison]

heat rises is good for procing sunbracers, but can hurt you if you dont have class ability to get to the ground quickly

[lilac wraith]

overload taken hobgolins with retaliation strikes

[wanton halo]

Don't even get me started on retaliation swarm

[civic kettle]

stun them

and evade the SINGLE retaliation they'll send

[fervent veldt]

hiiii discordia

[wanton halo]

You realize overloads and warpriest basically spam that thing right

And it's basically impossible to evade without cover

[civic kettle]

bruh I've done warpriest so many times and I along with the people Ive done it with have never had issues with them

[fervent veldt]

elden beast attack

[civic kettle]

don't shoot them unless u want to stun

it's that simple

[wanton halo]

If you're not full health one retaliation swarm in lowlight content can end you

[civic kettle]

if u have like 0 resilience maybe

it's more like half and that's if ur just standing still

[strong leaf]

its double brave shinies now or next week?

[lofty fjord]

No one gonna talk about the hive knight ex diris?

That's worse than any taken thing

[noble lake]

@civic kettle do u play pvp

[modest bison]

what are you using for survivability?

[wanton halo]

Doesn't matter if you're standing still or not you're going to get hit 9 times out of 10

[civic kettle]

restoration x2 probably

[teal adder]

How hard is master crotas end compared to normal?

[wanton halo]

last two weeks has increased rewards for onslaought

[civic kettle]

ur not just move to the side when they are about .5s from hitting you

usually one or two of the micro missiles will miss

[slender stone]

Starts may 28

[strong leaf]

ty

[wanton halo]

I have 10 resil on all of my builds and I usually run healing nades as well

[slender stone]

I gotchu twizzy we locked in 4L 🤝

[civic kettle]

rift?

[modest bison]

may 28, when KF is in rotation. thats when i shine 😎

[strong leaf]

ye come carry me in nez

[somber pike]

Got the envious bns cataphract Im so done with trials tonight

[wanton halo]

Bros telling me to consistently have a 0.5 second reaction time

[lofty fjord]

Very

[civic kettle]

average response time is like .3s

[tame forum]

still easy tbh just a lot of champs

[slender stone]

bout to carry my ahh to burger king

[civic kettle]

I'm being generous

or ur slow af

[teal adder]

so i wont be able to get that ship without paying for a carry 😦

[modest bison]

healing nades isnt enough. get some kind of overshield, or even restoration (even though it was mentioned as a joke, that would keep you from dying by overloads)

[tame forum]

PAY????

[carmine wind]

skill issue

[lofty fjord]

I can only say, the ship is not worth the effort

[wanton halo]

Probably gonna diminish given the average play session length

[lilac wraith]

screembs

[modest bison]

those nades should be for damage. your build should support your survivability

[teal adder]

i barely scraped by getting normal done, i only have like 150 hours in the game

[lofty fjord]

Wait till TFS, power creep will help

[fervent veldt]

imagine paying for carries

[wanton halo]

Nades are part of your build

[tame forum]

do NOT pay for carries dude

[modest bison]

yeah, but what is healing nades synergyzing with?

[fading totem]

so you're saying you wont get better at the game?

[lilac wraith]

just get better dont pay

[fervent veldt]

let them get scammed shhhh

[civic kettle]

they're referring to encounters such as master warpriest

[modest bison]

when you could run void & have cosntant overshield & health regen

[civic kettle]

where it kinda makes more sense to use a heal grenade

you can swap to apotheosis when damage starts anyway

[noble lake]

@wanton halo imagine limiting in pvp

ur legit cringe asf

[civic kettle]

occasionally

[tribal lichen]

Iron banner is a clan thing right?

[lilac wraith]

nyo

[tame forum]

no

[teal adder]

probably not

[fading totem]

[slender stone]

Nothing wrong with paying for carries brother, anyone who says otherwise is impoverished

[civic kettle]

skill diffd

[modest bison]

you only need healing nades if your build isnt supporting survivability though. healing nades dont synergize well

its a last resort

[teal adder]

i kinda suck and i dont really want to play the meta builds i want to play what i find fun

[lilac wraith]

there are no "clan things" in this game, clans just give engrams weekly

[valid sand]

I'd say yes, mostly because you can find free carries

[noble lake]

he blatantly limiting dmt / different times in trials

[civic kettle]

lol

[wanton halo]

@noble lake u fat

[valid sand]

I got a free GM nightfall carry like 2 weeks ago

[teal adder]

which at the moment is necrotic touch thorn and strand warlock

[slender stone]

Money isn't real

[valid sand]

Because I was just getting back in

[tame forum]

you can do that when you get better gear

[lilac wraith]

0 rizz bro

[noble lake]

ironic how ur limiting in trials and calling someone else fat

[modest bison]

stick to vanguard ops 😉

[tribal lichen]

Is it an event?

[drowsy prism]

I won a twitch streamers raffle one time and got a free trials carry

[valid sand]

I can't wait to start using Second Chance in the final shape

[lilac wraith]

yes its a monthly event i think

[civic kettle]

I main solar hunter so im probably biased towards it

[noble lake]

and he stops after being called out 🙏 thats crazy

[slender stone]

Nothing wrong with limiting

[civic kettle]

he left the server

[modest bison]

you probably dont even know what your favorite build it yet. try some others out, listen to suggestions. can learn a lot

[light matrix]

is the droprate for loot between master or normal wr 1st boss any different

[wanton halo]

No

[tame forum]

im limiting my potential 😔

[civic kettle]

so ur inflating it

[wanton halo]

You are limiting?

[lilac wraith]

im limiting 😔

[modest bison]

i dont know much about solae hunter, but i know there are tons of builds that help maintain survivability, whether it be devour, restoration, overshield, etc..

[valid sand]

I think solstice armor is just such a solid bit of fashion if you have nothing else

[wanton halo]

I respect it

[valid sand]

I wish they'd change the colors for strand and stasis though

[tame forum]

im limit (that is my legal name)

[slender stone]

I hate solstice armor

[wanton halo]

Your build

[modest bison]

im using sunbracers. solar nades

[lilac wraith]

use sunbracers with healing grenades

[wanton halo]

Solar hunter is one of the harder builds to stay alive on so healing nades are basically mandatory, also considering gunpowder gamble exists

[slender stone]

Spam healing grenades

[lilac wraith]

your teammates will never die!!

[light matrix]

how do u use dragons breath in a dps rotation

[wanton halo]

Well in that context healing nades obv won't synergize with your build

[drowsy prism]

It took me a bit to get use to it and not blow myself up with it lol

[modest bison]

but what build does it synergize with?

[lilac wraith]

shoot it and then swap to a special weapon, once a funny ignition happens swap back to dbreath, shoot it again, repeat

[wanton halo]

Any additional healing source is obviously going to synergize with your build as long as it doesn't depend on your grenade for damage

[mellow quarry]

guys can you help me to do the 5th quest from riven quests ?? join code in my bio pls

[modest bison]

just because it doesnt nerf a build doesnt mean it synergizes with the build

[slender stone]

is that prophecy ?

[modest bison]

it's a last-resort tool

[wanton halo]

Yeah and that's synergy

[modest bison]

no, that's like using The Stag

[wanton halo]

Sometimes it's not even your last resort and is genuinely your only source of healing like on solar hunter

[modest bison]

"this guy cant keep up, throw em on healing nades & stag"

[civic kettle]

on master you have to play more cautiously

[wanton halo]

Unless you do solar assassin's cowl which is crazy

[light matrix]

how do u know the ignition happened

[lilac wraith]

theres a giant explosion

[civic kettle]

since most of the time I'm on aeons to help my team generate ammo

(on solar yes)

[wanton halo]

The stag is useless in the long run on a class with access to free restoration x2 and healing rifts

[civic kettle]

bro has not done trio mVow

[modest bison]

i know, ive done master runs. healing nades aren't needed unless someone struggles surviving, which is usually a build issue

[civic kettle]

aeons on solar hunter

[wanton halo]

Well it's obviously gonna be useful there when you're limited access to ads

Also that's extremely niche

[civic kettle]

caretaker has a lot of adds what

[carmine wind]

just throw on 6 outbreaks and clap crota's booty cheeks

6 outbreaks with rewind rounds is actually crazy

[lilac wraith]

outbreak can one phase normal nezy, but its also normal nezy so

[civic kettle]

they just allow you to have brief periods of being able to play more aggressively

[fading totem]

hm

[lilac wraith]

he yumped off

[civic kettle]

encounters like warpriest, daughters, planets, and nez you really want a constant heal

[modest bison]

so you're using it offensively? that would make sense

[civic kettle]

ye

I've done a lot of trio master KF where I'm always on hunter

[cunning basalt]

tell em lmao c 🗣️

[wanton halo]

Idk how trio vow strats go but I'm assuming there's one stunner right? Basically makes it really hard to kill ads while stunning correct me if I'm wrong

[civic kettle]

ye ur on Riskrunner and stag

[modest bison]

but there are a plethroa of builds that allow it. if you're running aeons, i understand

[civic kettle]

boss does like zero damage to you

[cunning basalt]

u don’t need to stun caretaker if ur runners good

[civic kettle]

it's up to the runner if they want a stun

they'd call it out anyway

[cunning basalt]

u should stun

[modest bison]

only if you need to

[civic kettle]

like on totems I'm just on celestial to kill the unstop, warpriest it's aeons so I can make bricks for cenotaph teammate, daughters I'm likely on cowl trying to not die

[fading totem]

@feral minnow

[civic kettle]

warpriest is a bit more slow of an encounter since if you just ape the adds you'll probably just die

[hushed wing]

anybody on exemplar that still needs to claim titles and finished godslayer have it not count?

[civic kettle]

I'ma just assume it's a bug

[meager flower]

@civic kettle

[civic kettle]

he has a point

(salt)

[fervent veldt]

god i want rhulk

[lilac wraith]

rhulk i want god

[somber pike]

he is MASSIVE he WILL crush you

[fervent veldt]

NO IDC HES MINE SHUT UPP!!!

[hearty merlin]

while i hate salt with a burning passion, he is kinda right

[meager flower]

The well crybabies

[fervent veldt]

region

[bright grotto]

You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.

[somber pike]

The vanguard will not pay for your hospital bills

[hearty merlin]

oh yea, the nerf was a long time coming. good thing i play titan tho < 3

[fervent veldt]

its worth it 🥴🤤

[somber pike]

Well nerf is ok

[lilac wraith]

you are alive without a well pre-dps, just do the same thing during dps

[somber pike]

It’s not useless but it’s not insane anymore

[meager flower]

Why are ppl crying then

[carmine wind]

rhulk is dead

[somber pike]

They S u c k

[carmine wind]

bc they're destiny players

[lofty fjord]

There will always be meta. No matter how much they balance

[somber pike]

Meta this meta that

[uneven sail]

Should I buy NEXT EXPANSION? I have bought all the past seasons n expansions...but D2 has been stale lately and haven't played D2 in like 4months. It it worth to come back?

[hearty merlin]

isn't the new meta just going to be helm of saint 14, bubble and well still? i mean the nerf effectively did nothing but make bubble relevant again.

[stark gazelle]

Which is the weakly weapon in trial ?

[lofty fjord]

There's some good seasonal weapons. But at this point not worth it since you can't grind out everything

[stark lake]

not really

[lilac wraith]

you probably wont need a well in final shape raid

[meager flower]

He said if youre gonna nerf well then nerf the enemies

[lofty fjord]

Synthos replaced with wormgod

[uneven sail]

I have the current season pass n its at 75 or so. Also I made a mistake, I was talking about next expansion. I have everything to this point. Just missing out things from last 4-5months

[reef coyote]

Everything saltagreppo says has been true

[woeful citrus]

if i spam buy a craftable weapon from xur is there a chance itll drop as red border or nah?

[fervent veldt]

COPE HARDER

[lofty fjord]

I agree with John. If you keep nerfing to balance then at some point the difficulty is not what it is intended to be

[meager flower]

Skill issue

[stark lake]

considering how easy the game is rn I'd say the well nerf is fine

[carmine wind]

no u

[reef coyote]

Yeah you are not defending well

[stark lake]

dying in hard content for just placing a well in the middle of a whole room is fine

playing dumb shouldn't be rewarded

[lofty fjord]

Not well specifically. Nerfing things.
I opine that bungie should buff other exotics not nerf existing ones

[full thistle]

is the passage of mercy bugged?

[reef coyote]

You should die if you do that well should not be a get out of hell free card

[lilac wraith]

restoration 2 is pretty good

[lofty fjord]

Irrelevant in endgame

[stark lake]

????

[reef coyote]

They need to do both

[reef coyote]

Not Sure if you are even allowed to say this

[lilac wraith]

? unless your standing still afk ig

[lofty fjord]

You're not keeping resto x2 up in GMs and Master raids

[stark lake]

resto 2 single handedly letting people survive in -20 panth without thinking

[reef coyote]

yes you are

[stark lake]

the sunbracers in my back pocket

[lilac wraith]

i dont play GM's that content is actually dogshish

and you can keep resto x2 up in master raids easily

[lofty fjord]

Never seen it myself. No build suggestion for pantheon has it

[hearty merlin]

who uses sunbracers in a gm? doesn't the flare bolts usually tickle enemies (the melee, not the bursts out of the grenade itself)

[stark lake]

gms maybe not but in master raids sunbracers are still bis

[reef coyote]

Who do you get your build suggestions from

[hearty merlin]

i mean if your melee misses or doesn't kill it just seems like a wasted exotic slot personally.

[lilac wraith]

Aztecross and rick kack 100% percent

[jagged sage]

Who?

[coarse burrow]

chat does anyone have a week 4 oryx checkpoint

[wanton halo]

Walmart certified builds in chat

[lofty fjord]

Cross, Above, Mactics, Rickcactus
In that order

[lilac wraith]

💀 I was joking

[stark lake]

this can't be real

[jagged sage]

Who?

[reef coyote]

Yeah gonna tell you not to watch those youtubers anymore if you want advice on anything relevant to the meta

[wanton halo]

I’ll say it again, Walmart certified builds in chat

[carmine wind]

meta this, meta that, ever meta woman?

[feral minnow]

yum?

[lofty fjord]

Tbh Cross builds are more meme
But mactics are good

[lilac wraith]

🤓 starfire protocal for ad clear on arc

[coarse burrow]

yes

[reef coyote]

mactics sucks

Do not use anything he recommends

[lofty fjord]

What about mactics do you disagree with?

[lilac wraith]

who tf is mactics

[lofty fjord]

I find his builds and suggestions pretty good

[meager flower]

Pyrogale

[jagged sage]

Thats what I’m asking too

[reef coyote]

He runs omnioculous in raids

[wanton halo]

brother is out for blood

but it is true yeah

[carmine wind]

saltagreppo is out here actively trying to ruin everyone's fun

i bet he's the reason div is getting nerfed again

[lilac wraith]

if saltagreppo made a game it would die instantly

[reef coyote]

Saltagreppo is right

[wanton halo]

If y’all knew what the armor mods, fragments aspects and exotics do you would come up with builds yourselves instead of watching washes up YouTubers

[lofty fjord]

So before I could cast super with synthos, switch to pyro and get biotic enhancements?

[carmine wind]

i don't care what salt says, knucklehead is not that good.

not even with a nighthawk swap.

[jagged sage]

Which is what I do cuz I don’t watch any destiny youtubers or streamers.

[lilac wraith]

but radar tells you where enemies arrreeee

[jagged sage]

Not entertaining at all

[wanton halo]

doesnt have to be that good, it's an alternative

[jagged sage]

Or knowledgeable

[lofty fjord]

Creativity is never washed up

[lilac wraith]

fr + its fun experimenting

[carmine wind]

real
thats why i made a devour + touch of malice + glaive build

[reef coyote]

Well that makes sense

Doesn't care what a good player says

[jagged sage]

That’s why I use Celestial in pvp xD

[wanton halo]

Same builds over and over again, just different thumbnails

[reef coyote]

He is right again

[lilac wraith]

erm pls dont copy me

[lofty fjord]

Also all these builds they present are from their viewers. Mactics was the first to show the strand lock + dawnchorus build. Never used it but that's what makes buildcrafting exciting

[carmine wind]

beeeeitch i was here first.

[lilac wraith]

!!!!

[carmine wind]

i've been rocking this since ToM came out

[reef coyote]

strand lock + dawnchorus build.

This is why you don't listen to mactics

[hearty merlin]

why are people cycling through 5 loadouts in the first place? aren't most dps phases in raids like stupid simple where you just stand in one spot and dps (aside from nezzy/rhulk)

[limpid obsidian]

does rhulk cheese still work?

[wanton halo]

maxing is a thing

[jagged sage]

Elitist mindsets are weird

[wanton halo]

Most loadouts I’ve swapped in an encounter are 4

[lofty fjord]

Yes. Used with the skyburner's oath.
The gun applies scorch. Dawnchorus gives melee energy for scorching enemies. Melee energy gives invis to strand lock

[limpid obsidian]

anyone know if rhulk cheese still work?

[reef coyote]

yeah bro this is why mactics is bad

[lilac wraith]

😭 Im cringing at my old lfg posts wtf is this

[carmine wind]

meanwhile outbreak with rewind 2 cycles every boss

[hearty merlin]

Oh, can i ask why and what encounter? not trying to argue but i'm just really curious. I stopped raiding ages ago

[carmine wind]

in some cases, one cycles.

[lofty fjord]

I'm not saying it's meta. I admire the creativity

[jagged sage]

Usually when I’m in a damage phase I’m like…

And I still get good damage

[charred yacht]

God gamer

[reef coyote]

I do loadout swaps almost every raid

[carmine wind]

why even use heavies when we can run 6 outbreaks

or 5 outbreaks and 1 div?

[reef coyote]

🍔

[charred yacht]

I just hate d2 loadouts so annoying to tweak them

[wanton halo]

Mainly armor mods for ammo pickups scavenger exotic armor for dps like nighthawk lucky pants as well as armor chargers for surges and more orbs pickups for the rockets seasonal mod

[lofty fjord]

In legend seraph station mission. The space walk part where you have to run past a bunch of shanks and hive knights. This build can help

[jagged sage]

Or you can just you know… kill them. With guns.

[carmine wind]

6 outbreaks with rewind rounds do more than LFR's nowadays.

not even a joke.

[charred yacht]

Most of my problems are just with how mods are now though

[wanton halo]

i usualy go through 2-3 swaps or none if i am lazy the content is indeed made so you can beat it with whatever but at some point maxing just takes over

[reef coyote]

Yeah i'd hope

Lfrs suck

[lofty fjord]

Not if I wanna speedrun

[hearty merlin]

Oh i guess that makes sense, at most i usually swap loadouts once and call it a day. I get maxxing tho for something like pantheon

[lofty fjord]

Why waste time when you can use a build to sneak by

[wanton halo]

the menu game is a problem but at the same time i wouldn't complain or anything if bungie leaves it

[reef coyote]

dude

[jagged sage]

Why sneak by like a coward when you can rip and tear?

[lofty fjord]

Dont tell me ya'll kill everything everytime

[jagged sage]

Yes

I do

[carmine wind]

and given its precision damage, it can also clown rockets when the crit is hard to hit bc, well, its a primary.

[reef coyote]

Run eager edge sword and go around

[scarlet ermine]

@hollow steppehi

[lofty fjord]

Because time more important than egoing enemies in a game

[jagged sage]

Everything that shoots me dies

[reef coyote]

it cannot clown rockets

[carmine wind]

yes it can

[reef coyote]

I need to see this

[lofty fjord]

Yeah can do that too. Whatever you feel like

[somber pike]

[jagged sage]

[lofty fjord]

Remind me never to speedrun stuff with you

[carmine wind]

its literally crown of sorrow days all over again for outbreak fans

like forsaken auto-loading well is just back

[wanton halo]

Can confirm, easy 2 phase warpriest with 6 outbreak with RR and no abilities or supers. Just well

[reef coyote]

Could you use a different word please

[wanton halo]

Doesn't feel balanced ngl

[ocean sentinel]

Did they patch the rhulk cheese?

[lofty fjord]

inform me in advance to never speed run stuff with you?

[wanton halo]

The amount of damage that you deal vs the effort you put is stupid.

[reef coyote]

Don't worry bro you won't

[wanton halo]

Yeah and it's crazy that it two phases the tankiest boss in the game

[shadow jackal]

its Skullface btw

[wanton halo]

Getting your builds from kackis is crazy bro

[lofty fjord]

Just so we're clear, I soloed gotd with mactics build. And master Crota with above build

[shadow jackal]

getting your builds from anyone on that list is gross

[shadow jackal]

🥶

[civic kettle]

I've never watched d2 youtubers

[reef coyote]

🥶

[wanton halo]

I think aztecross and above are fine but I can see why you'd think that for some videos

[wanton halo]

Mad respect honestly, those Intros take forever and he still waits until they end to watch the build video

[shadow jackal]

thats just not funny man

[wanton halo]

Subjective

[lofty fjord]

Cactus is more if I cant make it work with anyone else's build

[shadow jackal]

Aztecross damage testing is BnS with two hand cannons, he cannot be taken seriously

[civic kettle]

example: SES Blade -> RDM rocket -> luckypants if time allows

[lofty fjord]

What's wrong with it? He's testing the heavy not the hc

[wanton halo]

He's trying to be as pure as possible with the damage, it's not a full blown rotation

[reef coyote]

He is testing bns with TWO PRIMARIES

[lofty fjord]

Does bns not proc with 2 primaries?

[civic kettle]

BNS is always used in a rotation

[shadow jackal]

pure is what you will do in a run??? not raw dps

[lofty fjord]

He's testing the heavy not the rotation

[civic kettle]

and in a rotation ur not using double primary

[shadow jackal]

like what even is that

[reef coyote]

You shouldn't proc with 2 primaries

[civic kettle]

it's unrealistic

[lofty fjord]

Okay this chat is cooking rn

[shadow jackal]

it makes no sense cuz the heavy relies on rotation???

guys i cant wait to fight nez with my bns envious weapon but get no kills and only fire the gl

[wanton halo]

By pure I mean raw

do we even have a ishtar collective lorebook

[shadow jackal]

the RAW damage doesnt mean anything

[civic kettle]

like yeah he's testing just the heavy weapon but who's really only just shooting the heavy weapon?

[shadow jackal]

why are you testing raw damage as if youre gonna use it?????

like that still makes no sense to me 😭

[lofty fjord]

He's comparing absolute damage values of heavies. If one RL has BnS and anoteher doesnt how would it be a fair comparison? I'd be mad if he was doing full DPS rotation.

[wanton halo]

Bro he clearly specifies that it's raw damage if you want integrated DPS then find another content creator

[lofty fjord]

I wanna see absolute values of the damage that the heavy weapon by itself can put out

[wanton halo]

It's not like he's misleading

[shadow jackal]

have aegis do that, hes better man

[lofty fjord]

Yup

[reef coyote]

it's not a fair comparison because one is significantly better than the other

[wanton halo]

Chat grow up, be a man and use double primary plus deterministic chaos for boss dps

[shadow jackal]

that was so funny! stop talking....

[carmine wind]

r ea l

[civic kettle]

u take the damage a single shot does and multiply it by the amount of shots it has (also remembering to include ur first bullet won't have BnS)

[wanton halo]

cross is not trying to appeal to the better group of players like aegis does

[lofty fjord]

Exactly. Hence no dps rotation. Tbh he should be using smg or any primary with the lowest damage so that we have the least deviation from the heavy damage value

[lofty fjord]

DPS is per second not per shot

[reef coyote]

No one cares about the pure heavy damage

[shadow jackal]

aegis just giveds genuine advice not some silly ghoulish "lets test who has the 'why i oughta' dps" 💀

[carmine wind]

Hot Take: Touch of Malice needs a buff so it's the highest DPS dealing primary bc now its getting its lunch eaten by outbreak and that aint right man

[lofty fjord]

I do

I wanna compare heavy to heavy

[shadow jackal]

you like genshin

[reef coyote]

that's your problem

[carmine wind]

only the women.

[lofty fjord]

And I have cross to solve it

[deep karma]

is the dragons breath catalyst worth grinding for?

[shadow jackal]

yeah youre in jail

[civic kettle]

might as well

[wanton halo]

why wouldnt it be

[deep karma]

its 50 strikes :C

[reef coyote]

Aegis content is focused toward lfgs \

[wanton halo]

I don't see the issue with testing raw DPS, everytime there's a good dmg number on there he always says "imagine how good this will be with DPS rotations". His content is not misleading

[civic kettle]

the amount of burgers I saw earlier this week on the dumb stasis horseman edge transit rotation made me want to puke

[quasi swift]

what super can you get the most orbs out of with a exotic armor too that buffs more orbs and all that

[wanton halo]

Any roaming super

[civic kettle]

bros actually brought it to pantheon week 4 planets and what a surprise they died

[wanton halo]

Tether with orpheus rig or phoenix well

Just a hunch tho

[lofty fjord]

Bro asked me to take per shot damage and multiply but cant take heavy damage value and add rotation damage value

[civic kettle]

you just substitute in rate of fire

[wanton halo]

i could have sweat it was arc stick but it's been a bit but yeah any roaming super

Too much math

[reef coyote]

people run stasis lucky pants for dps

[carmine wind]

i brought 4th horseman last week, granted it was also the only DPS weapon i used bc radiant dance machines go brrr and it was arc surge

[vivid garnet]

mfs who can't hit 3 rockets in a row walking up to rhulk with impetus horseman cascade edge (they are dead before dps)

[lofty fjord]

What about mag size?

[civic kettle]

yeah that's cooked

[shadow jackal]

are you real?

[carmine wind]

yeah.

[light matrix]

what do u need to one phase 1st boss of wr cause istg nobody can do it for some reason

[shadow jackal]

you can orient that with a bns rocket and stuff! XD

[carmine wind]

I did just fine in terms of damage

[civic kettle]

rockets usually have 1 and in which case you are factoring in dodge reloading

[wanton halo]

These is a very good reason why they run stays with a kinetic primary. Just saying since you’re too busy to realize why . Spoiler alert 40% damage increase

[weary fern]

Burgers?

[wanton halo]

Still can't believe llama praised that rotation bro

[civic kettle]

bad players

[shrewd citrus]

i just wasted 1 hour of my life trying to solo the nightfal on hero with assassins cowl

[civic kettle]

like it's such a cope rotation

[lofty fjord]

Why were you even doing that?

[weary fern]

I thought we just called them blueberries.

[civic kettle]

same thing

[wanton halo]

You wasted your time before you even started

[shadow jackal]

yeah man

[shrewd citrus]

this exotic sucks ass

[civic kettle]

bruh how

[shadow jackal]

you gotta leave the game

[shrewd citrus]

i think i might have to quit the game after this one

[civic kettle]

nah u just need to get good

[lofty fjord]

It's actually one of the meta ones

[shrewd citrus]

how tf am i suposed to do anything in the final boss room

[civic kettle]

kill things

[carmine wind]

whats the nightfall again

[civic kettle]

vile

[shrewd citrus]

he makes everyone invincible and i have to kill the thing

[reef coyote]

Bro

[wanton halo]

damn finally looking at hunters strand aspects and man did strand warlock got sacked huh outside of super damage

[lofty fjord]

It's hero. Enemies die if you just trash talk at them

[civic kettle]

then kill it

[sleek hemlock]

Anyone know what channel to post in to look for people who want to go for the Kingslayer title?

[carmine wind]

i actually kinda sympathize with @shrewd citrus that room solo is hell.

[civic kettle]

figure it out

[shrewd citrus]

i can do it easy on gyrfalcons gm but hero on assassins cowl is impossible

[reef coyote]

Assassins cowl best hunter exotic

[wanton halo]

#kings-fall

[lofty fjord]

Bro can't punch a red bar

[civic kettle]

it's as if perma invis is easier than cowl

[shrewd citrus]

yes

[sleek hemlock]

For some reason I can’t access that channel

[wanton halo]

Impossible

[lofty fjord]

Need to pay for access

[carmine wind]

lucky pants, star eaters, wormhusk, renewal grasps, radiant dance machines, nighthawk...

[tribal lichen]

NOO WAAAYYY I actually got the Actium War rig

[sleek hemlock]

I see

[wanton halo]

What is renewal grasps doing there

[reef coyote]

Dude literally only nighthawk competes

[tribal lichen]

Oh my love, i will mow down everything

[shrewd citrus]

so how do people find success with assassins cowl anyways

[reef coyote]

attacking the adds with a melee

[civic kettle]

powered melee kills

[lofty fjord]

Punch dodge punch
Profit

[carmine wind]

Lucky pants can turn hand cannons into literal heavy weapons
star eaters make arc worth a damn for DPS at all

[shrewd citrus]

yeah but the problem is the boss summons that little thing that makes half the room immune

[lofty fjord]

With combo blow active, unpowered also works

[wanton halo]

Basically they kill enemies using this ability called a melee and then they dodge

[civic kettle]

shoot it then

[onyx jetty]

which wep should i get out of these """ fourth horseman """ agers scepter """ lumina """ legend of acrius""" (heard the legend of acrius and the forth horseman are now meta for rhulk but idk what yall think)

[wanton halo]

Then destroy it

[lofty fjord]

Did they change the strike? Idr that part

[carmine wind]

Wormhusk is much better than you think, saved me a lot of times before
Renewal Graps with the right user, nothing in the arena can even move

[wanton halo]

Probably acrius

[wanton halo]

He's talking about the scorn immunity totem

[civic kettle]

most unfunny poll :noooo:

[weary fern]

The pollster is here.

[shrewd citrus]

the boss waves his hand and then this little thing pops up that makes enemies around it immune

and you have to kill it to do anything but the bos camps it

[carmine wind]

Radiant Dance Machines can make you an orb factory for everyone as your dodge creates an orb every time, and is very useful for niche damage setups
Nighthawk is the exotic of all time

[weary fern]

It's hit or miss. I can't win them all.

[lofty fjord]

And you find the totem hard on hero difficulty?

[carmine wind]

Assassin's cowl is just invis + heal on melee kill.

not saying its bad

[reef coyote]

Lucky pants can turn hand cannons into ok backup
star eaters make blade barrage useable

[simple marsh]

Luna's howl is the Uncanny Valley hand cannon

[carmine wind]

but the "best" is a strech.

[lofty fjord]

I prefer running liars handshake over Assassins cowl

I can stay alive

Without invis

[civic kettle]

if it had less spread I'd use it over celestial

[lofty fjord]

Shards of galanor > star eaters

[carmine wind]

esp. when you consider RDM's work with invis dodge so you can just simulate assassin's cowl but make far more orbs.

[reef coyote]

best 4 exotics for hunters are assassins cowl ses celestial gyrfalcons

[civic kettle]

ur cooked

[carmine wind]

GYRFALCO- sir.
sir, no.

[civic kettle]

no stompees

[carmine wind]

get that off your list right now.

[lofty fjord]

Can practically chain supers with shards of galanor

[civic kettle]

on what? adds?

[reef coyote]

That goes without saying it is for movement

[lofty fjord]

Stuff like onslaught, seasonal activity, yes

[carmine wind]

Gyrfalcons works ONLY on void subclasses & prismatic really, as it's borederline worthless on anything else.

[reef coyote]

It's the best void hunter exotic

[shrewd citrus]

no its graveton forfert

[civic kettle]

at that point just use calibans hand

[reef coyote]

It is top 4 for that reason

[carmine wind]

ok I will not accept the slander to the Orpheus Rig.

[fervent veldt]

yeah ngl i grew out of shards of galanor

[carmine wind]

And frankly, Omni.

[reef coyote]

Orpheus is for more specific things than gyrfalcons

[civic kettle]

it's as if I can swap to it when popping tether

[wanton halo]

Void as a subclass in general isn’t at a very good spot atm

[reef coyote]

Omni is bottom 5 hunter exotics

[civic kettle]

it has invis without needing to kill something

[wanton halo]

in a better spot than arc imo

[lofty fjord]

It's alright. Devour on warlock is still good.

[carmine wind]

ok so you're an imbicile, good to know.

[reef coyote]

dude

you cannot be real

[wanton halo]

Only if you have feed the void aspect

[rustic bough]

How many traits can be unlocked for the whisper of the worm and outbreak perfected? 4 each right?

[lofty fjord]

Thats why I specified warlock

[civic kettle]

I just realized

[lofty fjord]

The other aspect is trash anyway

[wanton halo]

omnioculus is really underwhelming

[civic kettle]

what happens if I never bother doing zero hour

[wanton halo]

i'd use graviton forfeit over it

[shadow jackal]

are you gonna use outbreaks or rockets for dps 20 light under with lfgs who have standards and may be on a time limit

[lofty fjord]

No pattern

[wanton halo]

Then you have a regular outbreak

[wanton halo]

One of the best utility / fun exotics in the game

[carmine wind]

there are 5 hunter void subclass exotics, and you said "Omni is bottom 5 hunter exotics" like Khepri's Sting level of bad.

[rustic bough]

?

[civic kettle]

ok so I don't need to bother with it lol

[keen stag]

is warlords or gotd easier to solo ?

[reef coyote]

Khepris is also bottom 5

[civic kettle]

warlords

[wanton halo]

Well the rewind rounds outbreak is substantially better

[carmine wind]

You can argue its not too useful, but who in the right mind says "Omni is as bad as Khepri's Sting"?

THE EXOTIC THAT DOESNT EVEN FUNCTION RIGHT

[civic kettle]

you are more likely to find me in comp than using outbreak

[lofty fjord]

Gotd is harder and warlords is longer

[civic kettle]

(last time I played comp was January)

[wanton halo]

Alright bro what do you even have against outbreak

[carmine wind]

depends on the boss

[reef coyote]

it is though omni is only good for gm skull drags

[civic kettle]

I just dislike pulses

[shadow jackal]

what boss are you using outbreaks on

[keen stag]

yeah i’m fine with difficultly i just don’t want to have to do 40 damage phases on one boss

[wanton halo]

Do you think the pulse rifle buffs in tfs will change that

[civic kettle]

out ranged and out damaged by hcs

[lofty fjord]

Solar this season obv

[rustic bough]

How many traits can be unlocked for the whisper of the worm and outbreak perfected? 4 each right?

[wanton halo]

Graviton Lance does not get outranged by handcanons

Literally the sunshot of pulses

[weary fern]

Solar is fav cos it have best healing.

[civic kettle]

it'll bring them closer to Hcs but most of them still are out ranged

[carmine wind]

If i had to pick Rockets or Outbreak ONLY, it'd be Golgy, Oryx, Riven, and possibly caretaker.

[civic kettle]

also like be real are you gonna use a bxr or a zaolis?

[lofty fjord]

I would use a bxr

[shadow jackal]

for which one

[wanton halo]

Either are fine

[civic kettle]

ur not real

[carmine wind]

for outbreak

[wanton halo]

Bxr even with buffs will take 3-4 mags to kill an orange bar

[shadow jackal]

no way you are using outbreak for riven and caretaker or oryx or golg

[lofty fjord]

Over zaolis I'd pick bxr

[wanton halo]

Bxr has demo incan which is pretty nice

[carmine wind]

Like rockets are straight up idiotic for oryx & golgy.

[shadow jackal]

you’re baiting 😭

[weary fern]

Is it cruel to catch a housefly and burn its wings off?

[charred yacht]

the undying pulse might be good in final shape

[fervent veldt]

zaoulis bane my beloved 🥴

[shadow jackal]

????

[reef coyote]

Bro rockets are bis on oryx lmao

[civic kettle]

they're the meta

[wanton halo]

yeah true true i mean thinking about it the issue is more with smoke bomb, it's just a question mark to me still

[wanton halo]

Excuse me ????

[wanton halo]

I love adhortative

[reef coyote]

Rockets are bis on golgy

[carmine wind]

On what planet is anyone using rockets on oryx or golgy?

[reef coyote]

Earth

[civic kettle]

not yours clearly

[carmine wind]

i'm the one baiting?

[amber zinc]

? People just use precision weapons because theyre more convenient/safe

[shadow jackal]

are you clueless

[carmine wind]

this entire chat is trolling im out

[reef coyote]

Actually what else would you run

[wanton halo]

that genshi impact girl got you tripping bad

[carmine wind]

except you, you seem to get it.

[shadow jackal]

do you genuinely believe you’d use a pulse over a rocket for dps???

[keen stag]

is gotd or warlords worse for solo. i’m not worried abt difficulty more abt doing 30 damage phases on one boss

[reef coyote]

Dude i am not trolling what else would you run on golg or oryx

[civic kettle]

there's a crazy concept of loadout swapping once ur finished dumping ammo

[shadow jackal]

not really, dying with an rocket is really hard man

[lofty fjord]

If I find that I am consistently running out of ammo yes I'd bring an exotic pulse for DPS and a purple RL

[deep karma]

is killing tally rampage hammerhead better than commemoration reconstruction killing tally?

[shadow jackal]

i’m gonna be so real

[weary fern]

AGREED!

[carmine wind]

on a boss that is precision damage based like oryx, golgy, and riven? Yeah i'd use a precision weapon vs a blast radius weapon.

[shadow jackal]

the boss should be gone by the time that happens 😭

[civic kettle]

just empty ur rocket and what not and THEN swap

[fervent veldt]

you dont really need hammerhead if you already have commemoration

[wanton halo]

warlords is really a breeze outside of the last boss
Gotd is just annoying from front and back

[reef coyote]

Those are not precision bosses

[lofty fjord]

The last boss in Gotd. I never have enough ammo on my RL

[shadow jackal]

NONE OF THOSE ARE PRECISION BASED ALSO IZI????

[civic kettle]

mfw golf faces the wrong way

[reef coyote]

Kalli is a precision boss

[weary fern]

Hammerhead is heresy cos it is not SOLAR.

[shadow jackal]

reserve mod…

[carmine wind]

izzy only works with crits.

[amber zinc]

with decent damage you should be fine with warlords, gotd is just a slog and half forces certain loadouts

[shadow jackal]

HELLO????

[deep karma]

dope ty

[civic kettle]

golg faces u with a crit

[shadow jackal]

do you actually believe what you’re saying

[weary fern]

All weapons must match your super.

[civic kettle]

oryx has a crit and he stands still

[shadow jackal]

this has to be trolling

[carmine wind]

when he feels like it.

[lofty fjord]

Even with that. The damage phase is long enough that with arby you can dump all rockets and more

[shadow jackal]

????

[wanton halo]

zavala is the master baiter and you are all falling for it

[civic kettle]

this is why we use rockets

[shadow jackal]

you have one arby to make her not teleport

[wanton halo]

(i pray)

[shadow jackal]

skullface i haven’t spoken to you in a while

[carmine wind]

this chat is the only time in human history people think "eh i'll just use rockets"

[shadow jackal]

i thought you had some sense, dear god was i wrong

[shadow jackal]

BECAUSE THEIR THE BEST BEHIND GLS???

[carmine wind]

if we're saying what i'd actually use for someone like oryx it'd be whisper.

[reef coyote]

Yeah rockets are best on oryx and golg it's not close

[civic kettle]

I refuse to take off sunshot so I'm using apex

[lofty fjord]

I never said I have 2 arby 😖

[civic kettle]

bro stop it's not even funny anymore 😭

[shadow jackal]

whys the other one for

[uncut flax]

Is getting godslayer hard and is it too late?

[shadow jackal]

it was never funny

[civic kettle]

they should ban polls

[lofty fjord]

you have one arby to make her not teleport

[wanton halo]

do you know the encounters and have time?

[charred yacht]

you can do it as long as you got good gear

[carmine wind]

you'd also use rockets on riven i'd assume?

[weary fern]

Don't make me bring up the blue lobster meme again.

[civic kettle]

yep

[reef coyote]

No i'd use blade barrage

[uncut flax]

How much time?

[carmine wind]

tractor/gjally/izzy the whole works?

[reef coyote]

No just bb