💬destiny-chat

[tribal sparrow]

ok now im confused

[wanton halo]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-the-witch-queen-witch-queen-gif-23508111

[gray widget]

I agree with Feng on this one

You get best dressed commendation

[wanton halo]

thanks

[tribal sparrow]

i dont i actually think destiny is too cheap for the amount of content it has

[winged owl]

@upbeat quarry i wanna sleep but im not tired

[upbeat quarry]

start a lich

[tacit ledge]

THEY DONT EXPLAIN WHAT THE WORDS MEAN!!

[wanton halo]

yeah

[verbal field]

destiny should have a 12 dollar monthly sub ontop of expansion prices

[tacit ledge]

WHATS A CRYO NOVA!!!

[upbeat quarry]

and then go to sleep when you get a 32% weapon for like an hour and a half of grinding the lich

[tribal sparrow]

what game are you even talking about now

[wanton halo]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-avengers-marvel-small-price-gif-14188934

[winged owl]

Its 4:00 am

[remote tulip]

man wtf why is dante so broken 😭

[tacit ledge]

borderlands 3

[tribal sparrow]

who?

[upbeat quarry]

that's what de does now

[wanton halo]

he uses a book thats why

[tacit ledge]

can i delete the npcs

[upbeat quarry]

theres a bunch of people saying he isnt broken but he's designed well 😭

[remote tulip]

i just messed around w him a little and no sht bbc was outpacing me

[upbeat quarry]

like getting free slash in a 100m range and then detonating it for slash damage x 6 x like 100 isnt broken

[tacit ledge]

I DONT CARE ELLIE LET ME GO BACK TO THE FUN

[remote tulip]

dark into tragedy just kills everything on the map?

[winged owl]

The typa people who dkride saryn and octavia💀

[tacit ledge]

im coping

[remote tulip]

he's a powerhouse with overguard regen 😭

[upbeat quarry]

dante tragedy just hits interger cap with slash

[gray widget]

can I come over and do this

[upbeat quarry]

and then if you kill something with triumph up youre immune for 2 seconds

[gray widget]

My weekend yap sesh is over. Goodnight chat

[remote tulip]

what's the point of me making builds when i c an main dante and do everything 😭

[remote tulip]

gn bel

[upbeat quarry]

tragedy needs a nerf bad

its just not fair detonating all slash tics in like 100m radius with 10x damage

esp when the 3 procs slash

[upbeat quarry]

the rest of his kit is mostly balanced

[wanton halo]

roadmap for the final shape (leak)

[winged owl]

The fact that bungie placed the most clashing of personalities and shipped it as a single person and believed that it was a good idea still baffles me

[upbeat quarry]

tragedy doesnt even need slash to be proc'd on an enemy to kill in base star chart btw

you just have a 100m nuke that insta kills everything

[tribal sparrow]

almost

[remote tulip]

con how do you compete with this kpm 😭

[verbal field]

i wish we got a the nine expansion instead of whatever shadowkeep was supposed to be

[upbeat quarry]

i dont

[remote tulip]

yeah idk why i tried

[upbeat quarry]

nezha with 4 aug prolly can

[winged owl]

There are 2 i think that can

[remote tulip]

nezha aug is so funny

[upbeat quarry]

since it has less los checks and faster kills

[remote tulip]

one heat proc turns into 4000 group spread kill

[wanton halo]

into the light

[winged owl]

If its low level mirage nuke is probably stronger and saryn with a bit of buildup can nuke better probably

[upbeat quarry]

vs dante which is just press 3 3 4

and has better survivability

[winged owl]

Dante do kinda be saryn on crack

[upbeat quarry]

dont need rolling guard when your 2 gives you iframes for about an entire century

[tawny shale]

Do yall think 3 100s and a 90 is possible

[upbeat quarry]

and gives 1k overguard

[upbeat quarry]

on stasis yes

with all artifice and a 71 exotic

[wanton halo]

you can get 100s on all stats

[tawny shale]

not with charges I mean*

[remote tulip]

welp dante main time ig

[upbeat quarry]

he gets really boring though

[winged owl]

Grendel is better

[tawny shale]

only stasis?

[upbeat quarry]

prolly

[winged owl]

Grendel > everyone else

[remote tulip]

yeah he does what styanax does with like

[tawny shale]

Ok jw am getting close

[remote tulip]

100% more braindeadability

[wanton halo]

why wasnt this neptune instead of what we got

[remote tulip]

what an actual joke

[upbeat quarry]

overguard cap should be like

[winged owl]

Rhino goes higher i think

[upbeat quarry]

10k hardcapped

not scaling with str at all

[remote tulip]

rhinos is infinite fym

[upbeat quarry]

and regen should be delayed

[frigid hatch]

oh, huh, the title screen changed since i last played it

[winged owl]

I think my buddy hit 5 mil or something

Idk

[frigid hatch]

Title screen changes depending on story progression

[winged owl]

Probably more

[remote tulip]

yeah when i threw my pre nerf eclipse zaw at my friend in simul we got it up to 70m highest

rhino has effectively 3 walls of immunity

[tribal sparrow]

yap fest this is not destiny

[upbeat quarry]

rhino is such a silly frame

rhino is like, an actual well designed frame

[verbal field]

protea is peak...

[frank trout]

why are we doing rhino revisionism

[frank trout]

real! real! real!

[wanton halo]

ron concpet art

[verbal field]

looks cooler than ron

[remote tulip]

tysm ily

[wanton halo]

warframe

[frigid hatch]

gamers help me with this boss it's hard

[upbeat quarry]

isnt that the game with kids or something

[remote tulip]

I LOVE YOU PROTEA

[upbeat quarry]

soul:500
body:10-12 game

[frigid hatch]

i mean the green hair girl behind the character im playing is a kid, yes

[verbal field]

im just waiting for protea prime to redownload the game

[frigid hatch]

and she's literally God in canon

also called "The Zero Child"

[verbal field]

hi

[remote tulip]

protea prime was so well designed im so happy

[frigid hatch]

if only warframe could design good content

always more of the same

[remote tulip]

@upbeat quarry this is aboutta be you (I only used her for leveling)

[winged owl]

My friend put more speed on his rhino than gauss base speed

Kinda crazy ngl

[upbeat quarry]

gauss base speed is like 1.5 id hope you can mod that

[frigid hatch]

anyway yeah, Green hair girl named KeA is a non-combatant, she's traveling with my party temporarily for story reasons

[winged owl]

Not base. He hit like 7 or 8

[frigid hatch]

this isn't even half of my party lmao

[wanton halo]

do you guys think we will get a destiny 3 ?

[winged owl]

It was so long ago i doubt id be able to find a screenshot tho

[frigid hatch]

there's everybody else

[remote tulip]

welp all my shards from styanax are going to dante

[tribal sparrow]

conyawn im still mad at you for flaming my music taste

[upbeat quarry]

i never flamed your music

[frigid hatch]

i should use this dude more, HOWLING HEAVENS is overpowered as hell lmao

[remote tulip]

now how dumb do you think i can make dante look

[tribal sparrow]

you said i was gay for listening to smth

[upbeat quarry]

he alr looks dumb

[upbeat quarry]

you listen to tally hall

has any cishet person ever listened to tally hall

[tribal sparrow]

ok no

not ANYMORE

[remote tulip]

let me cook for 1s

[tribal sparrow]

omg im actually cooked in this server now

you did not need to leak that

[jagged sage]

Glaives are good

D2 is fun

Bungie best indie company

[frigid hatch]

bro is also overpowered

Void Reaver makes enemies melt even on higher difficulties lmao

[upbeat quarry]

do i put strength on my trin... or duration....

[remote tulip]

there you go con

[frigid hatch]

trin has no viable duration builds

[upbeat quarry]

you are just wrong

[jagged sage]

I’d fight it

[frigid hatch]

you press 2, and you press 4

[jagged sage]

I can win with yatta powers

[frigid hatch]

trin has no viable duration builds lol

[upbeat quarry]

her 1 is useless so that gets put to roar

ev nuking is only viable for disruption now man 😭

[frigid hatch]

best party member, she oneshots everything in the game

[upbeat quarry]

neg duration trin just isnt real

[remote tulip]

energy vampire niche on top !!!!

[frank trout]

dont u just go min dur max str on trinity and oneshot demolysts

[frigid hatch]

she can do 4.2 million damage in a single attack which is the highest possible damage number on Nightmare difficulty

[upbeat quarry]

for disruption yeah

[frigid hatch]

every Trin runs negative duration, yes

[upbeat quarry]

have fun pressing 2 on every enemy in a survival

[frank trout]

i mean

im simply not gonna take trin into survival

[vocal mason]

yo can someone teach me how to deal with this damn overload in todays lost sector please?

[upbeat quarry]

saying trin cant build duration just isnt real though

[meager flower]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-fitness-gif-26478053

[frank trout]

whats the ls

[remote tulip]

we love ev niche !!!

[vocal mason]

I legit stun this mofo. get him low but every time he just heals back up to full before I can stun him again

[vocal mason]

Perdition on Europa

[frigid hatch]

literally nobody has ever ran Duration on Trin ever since they nerfed Link being able to instantly kill enemies through self-damage

[remote tulip]

gally

[upbeat quarry]

are you freezing the overload

[frank trout]

ghorn overload rocket

[vocal mason]

im running solar hunter and arbalest

[frigid hatch]

use an auto rifle

[vocal mason]

so what should i run instead of arbalest then?

[frank trout]

if ur on level he should just die in one rocket with any buff up

[vocal mason]

im onl;y 1810 so little but under

[burnt storm]

Nighthawk gg

[frigid hatch]

1810 doesnt matter, Legend and Master content reduces your Light Level

[vocal mason]

im running assassins cowl i'll try nighthawk

[frigid hatch]

use an auto rifle in your secondary slot

[frank trout]

anything that antibarriers, if u have perma radiant uptime it doesnt even matter, otherwise sidearms are ur only non exotic ab choice

[upbeat quarry]

lls doesnt have light level cap

[frigid hatch]

[frank trout]

also yea lls scale with ur light up to +25 or w/e it is

[burnt storm]

Does

[vocal mason]

so gally or arbalest?

[upbeat quarry]

lls and mls are the only activities that didnt get capped light

[frigid hatch]

either get an auto rifle or get a better legendary rocket blood :S

[burnt storm]

Or rather yeah the activity is placed higher

[frigid hatch]

kill two birds with one stone, get a solar auto rifle

it claps Overloads and Barriers atm

[vocal mason]

im running a solar pulse rifle

[remote tulip]

gally everything

[frigid hatch]

i give up

i heard Pulse rifle in PvE that isn't NTTE

im done

[upbeat quarry]

ntte is bad

[frigid hatch]

Outbreak and NTTE are the only viable Pulses in PvE

[upbeat quarry]

pulses arent viable in pve

[frigid hatch]

even Incan BXR some people are touting isn't good

[remote tulip]

ntte in pve sounds pr wild

ngl

[frigid hatch]

NTTE is basically like having a personal Arc Soul with 100% uptime

[meager flower]

[frigid hatch]

like, NTTE's exotic affect and perks are specifically for pve

[upbeat quarry]

arc souls arent good therefore ntte isnt good

[frigid hatch]

it just coincidentally happens to have really strong stats, making it good in pvp too

NTTE "arc soul" is just it fires with you

so you literally double your damage output

[frank trout]

ntte is dogwater

[remote tulip]

wild in a bad way

[frigid hatch]

it's BETTER than an arc soul -- AND YOU CAN STACK it

[remote tulip]

i forgot to mention that

[dapper sundial]

NTTE buddy arc soul and child

[upbeat quarry]

i can understand you saying dur trin is bad cause theres other frames that can do the same thing

but like ntte is just not good

[frigid hatch]

just say Primaries arent good, you're being obtuse

[frank trout]

ntte is not even good for primary standards

[remote tulip]

erm actually I use my adept messenger w kill clip in pve con

[frigid hatch]

god i hate your species of individual

[upbeat quarry]

i use exotic primaries in pve

[frigid hatch]

Pulse rifles have a champ mod this season

[upbeat quarry]

ntte is just a pulse rifle but it eats your exotic slot

and pulses are alr bad in pve

[frigid hatch]

NTTE is one of the hardest hitting primaries in the game excluding anything with a busted perk / intrinsic

[remote tulip]

will the new warlock solar orb interact w child of old gods and arc soul?

[stiff galleon]

pulse rifles just feel like ass in pve with the exception of like outbreak and battlescar with tremors and stl, and even those are pushing it imo

[frank trout]

ok and

[stiff galleon]

blast furnace will probably also be barely okay in pve

[frigid hatch]

the issue is a catch 22

you cant buff the per-shot damage of Pulse rifles because they'd be overpowered for primaries

[stark reef]

why i dont have permission to see trials lol

[frigid hatch]

you need to buff the per-shot damage cuz they do a third of the damage per shot

[remote tulip]

NOOOOO

[frigid hatch]

with some exceptions ofc, like Graviton doing 100% damage and 200% damage on its two-shot burst

actually yeah, Graviton is O.K. in pve too

Cosmology is funny and unironically pretty decent for trash clearing

[frigid hatch]

imagine playing a game that punishes you for equipping stuff

[hardy lantern]

Hey, how can I contact the mods of this server?

[frigid hatch]

Destiny 2 doesn't punish you for just having bad guns equipped at least.... you just get punished for having a poor choice in tools to dealing with a situation

[hardy lantern]

Can I just tag? or is there a formal way to talk to them?

[frigid hatch]

[frigid hatch]

they prefer you DM them but most of 'em pretend to be afk

thats why peeps been talking about warframe in the wrong channel for 4 days straight now

[fervent veldt]

cosmetic mods

[fervent veldt]

la creatura

[hardy lantern]

I dm'ed 3 senior people yesterday including the co-founder guy but there havent been any response

[fervent veldt]

call mods janitors

[frank trout]

i dmd a mod like a week ago about a guy on an alt whos just a blatant nazi and nothing happened so idk

[jagged sage]

Was it through text or voice?

[hardy lantern]

Ah crap

[jagged sage]

If it was voice its best to have proof

[upbeat quarry]

torid needs a skin icl

[frank trout]

the d2 account he linked to his alt is owning a clan called 1488 with something relating to white purity in the bio lol

[tacit ledge]

why does a 1 in 3 chance sound better than a 33% chance

[frigid hatch]

because one is a mistruth

[upbeat quarry]

cause 1 in 3 sounds like itll take you 3 runs on average

but your brain doesnt think abt % like fractions unless youre like smart

[frigid hatch]

most people cant even think in situational hypotheticals....

and, conceptually, those are very easy to understand...

[frank trout]

ur one to talk

[frigid hatch]

example: pretend we are talking, and I asked you; "hey, how do you think you would feel if you did not have breakfast today?"

[frank trout]

shut up

[frigid hatch]

most people nowadays would say "i did eat though so what do you mean?"

so if i clarified it with "okay you did, but pretend that you did not, how do you think you would feel if you didn't"

[jagged sage]

I would feel hungry

[frigid hatch]

the answer you'd get is "i dont get what you're asking"

[fervent veldt]

schizo hour

[frigid hatch]

correct

[upbeat quarry]

@wanton halo blud got hacked L

[fervent veldt]

meow

[frigid hatch]

scientists recently made a concerning find with situational hypotheticals too

[fervent veldt]

💤

[frigid hatch]

most of the human populace is, verifiably, too dumb to understand such a simple thing

you do not need a BIG BRAIN IQ to understand them

[fervent veldt]

i want rhulk

[frigid hatch]

which means most people are overwhelmingly below average

thus, setting the new average to "everybody is dumb and it's a proven fact"

[remote tulip]

oml connie lol

2/2 so far

[upbeat quarry]

sounds like a facebook article

[frigid hatch]

the problem with being unable to think about situational hypotheticals means you are incapable of planning your future

which is why it's concerning

[frank trout]

does the trick still work

[frigid hatch]

the main interest of the study was to find out if thinking this way, then, is a learned skill, or something we should just be able to inherently figure out

(it's both, btw)

[upbeat quarry]

don't care post wf

[fervent veldt]

🛸

[frigid hatch]

brb, finding a mod to DM every time i see a WF post

[frank trout]

dont think u wanna see frosts wf opinions

[frigid hatch]

i dont have warframe opinions i have warframe facts

[thorn tulip]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[remote tulip]

huh

also nvm saryn still does it faster but dante is just a no risk clear

[frank trout]

end process when mission is about to be over, open game, reconnect to previous squad, some1 in squad can then tell you what loot they got, if good keep flying in, if bad close game

[frigid hatch]

you know what WF doesnt have? cooking

[fervent veldt]

creature

[upbeat quarry]

stg catalyzing shields just doesnt exist

[fervent veldt]

next word is a test

WHAAAAAT

i cant say the " i " word?

[dapper sundial]

WAHHHHHH !

[fervent veldt]

:O

[dapper sundial]

yo, gurt

[fervent veldt]

meow

[frigid hatch]

thats an UGLY creature

[dapper sundial]

mrrrp

[fervent veldt]

meow

[frank trout]

warframe.market surely

[upbeat quarry]

just not spending like 30p on a mod ill never use

[vocal mason]

Is there a time limit on master lost sectors to get an exotic?

[upbeat quarry]

not directly

[fervent veldt]

no, just kill all champs

[frigid hatch]

bro's anime cut-in shot is gorgeous too, god dang Gaius is a MAN

[vocal mason]

i defo killed all champs

and didnt get exotic on master diff

[fervent veldt]

rng be bad

[vocal mason]

took me 27 minutes xd

just waiting for nighthawk every champ[ lmao

[upbeat quarry]

its a 1/4 so have fun

[frigid hatch]

LLS is 20% drop rate, MLS is 22% drop rate for your exotic if you Platinum it (kill every champ)

[fervent veldt]

27??

[vocal mason]

damn only a 22% chance for what bungie clssifies as "Common"

[vocal mason]

bro im 1805 light lmao

[fervent veldt]

legend is better to farm anyways

[vocal mason]

But how is there only a 2% difference between rare drop and common drop?

[buoyant moon]

he made it up

[fervent veldt]

just farm legend

fast runs!

[upbeat quarry]

whoever made the resource to remove shards be bile is a horrible human

[remote tulip]

3/3

[buoyant moon]

weight

[remote tulip]

i have an extra one if u want

[feral minnow]

kissing session

[remote tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/lesbian-lgbt-kiss-girls-girls-kiss-gif-25159817

damnit where's my get on helldivers 2 gif

[frigid hatch]

literally eating yellow snow is more fun than warframe 100% of the time

this can be scientifically verified too

[remote tulip]

I hate wf I just play it to play it

[frigid hatch]

that's the sunk cost fallacy trap

[remote tulip]

bro sunk cost fallacy does NOT exist for me on wf

💀

I have restarted thrice

[dapper sundial]

i can stop anytime i want!!!!

[remote tulip]

nic addicts tweakin

[feral minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-gif-17415633748202930152

[remote tulip]

wtf get on w the makeout ses

[frigid hatch]

im not about a game thats being developed by people who'd sooner tell you you're healthy if you're morbidly obese

[feral minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kawai-kiss-anime-gif-16371489

[frigid hatch]

warframe is that game that will try to convince you your car goes fast when it's falling off a cliff at terminal velocity

[tired valley]

Its high noon.

[remote tulip]

time to go help new helldivers

[feral minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/bae-grant-gustin-the-flash-thumbs-up-yes-gif-15565479

[blissful scaffold]

@frigid hatch how was Trial ?

are you still at usual ?

https://tenor.com/view/zombie-orpheus-onwaaard-the-gamers-larp-ttrpg-gif-17217585

[brazen fern]

ew

[fading totem]

swagged out

[upbeat quarry]

inshallah i will get tau reds

[fading totem]

one day 🙏

[remote tulip]

you want my spare catalyz

[upbeat quarry]

i got 2 last week

[upbeat quarry]

inshallah it will drop for me one day

[remote tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/909396264045658152/1079996885491781632/caption.gif

[spring robin]

...

[fading totem]

no link perm fail

[spring robin]

its lieterally a gif

[fading totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484153257753837568/1017080660567015505/copeslam.gif

[frigid hatch]

had some decent games going for a bit, some couple wins and losses but nothing fishy going on -- then suddenly another loss streak from illegitimate bros

so i booted up this game, got my favorite girl a Pink Hair costume piece

[blissful scaffold]

"then suddenly another loss streak from illegitimate bros" - you just have to mentioned it 🍞

[frigid hatch]

lemmie put it this way

[blissful scaffold]

how was Dragon 2 ?

[frigid hatch]

one of those matches had a titan who fired Matador 3 times in Round 1

that's literally impossible in normal gameplay

[blissful scaffold]

instead of 2 ?

[frigid hatch]

i counted, it was three, my team noticed it too

it is not possible to have more than 2 shots in any shotgun / sniper rifle in Trials within the first round atm

[tribal dagger]

is there a chat for crota? not showing up for me

[fervent veldt]

#crotas-end

[frigid hatch]

i mean we WON that match too

[blissful scaffold]

@frigid hatchwhat was the loadout u were using ?

[upbeat quarry]

warframe works so well

[frigid hatch]

it's not the fact i lost that pisses me off it's the fact bro was blatantly cheating

[frigid hatch]

uuuhhh...... Shayura's and Vigilance, iirc?

[blissful scaffold]

i was thinking Mida + Shotgun

to try it myself

[frigid hatch]

i dont have a mida myself rn, i deleted it

we had a warlock aimbotting in another match i won

[blissful scaffold]

i mean not you. Was for me

[frigid hatch]

he exploded himself with his nova bomb

oh... i dunno... the current map does NOT favor shotguns rn

everybodys playing peeks, not aggression lmao

anyway yeah, just enjoying Legend of Heroes atm, i like Altina cuz she's a yoted ass Mage-centric character

Ebon Shade buffs her with Physical Immunity and 3 turns of Stealth (untargetable / unattackable)

and Ebon Crest gives the entire party Total Immunity status (every attack will be reflected unless it has Absolute Guard Break)

Altina is just busted as hell

Emma is even stronger but for different reasons -- her ATS (magic) stat is the natural highest in the game and her Orders buff makes her required for some boss fights (grants Magic Absorb which bypasses Absolute Guard Break)

legend of heroes very much a "learn each party members role" in combat to git gud

[marble kiln]

I think I've finally just reached my limit with tolerating Destiny.

Like I'm not even baiting or trying to be funny.

[somber dawn]

welcome to the club

[marble kiln]

My feelings towards the game can only be described as intense frustration or just mindnumbing apathy.

[somber dawn]

uninstall

[marble kiln]

This game isn't fun, nothing in this game is skillful, the devs don't care.

[frigid hatch]

okay whatever dude

[frigid hatch]

tell us something new

[marble kiln]

We're at a point where Call of Duty feels like the superior game. lol

And that game has it's own laundry list of problems

[oak hatch]

not MW3 lol

[marble kiln]

MW3 plays better than Destiny despite it being garbage and that actually baffles me.

[oak hatch]

i can barely finish a zombies match these days

[marble kiln]

Destiny 2 in 2024 is the only game I played where using anything other than the current meta weapons just kind of feels like copium regardless of if I perform well or not.

Because the guy right below me with two or three less kills kept pace with me with half the effort and his big toe in his mouth

What is even the point?

[oak hatch]

they just dig everything into the dirt

[marble kiln]

I do not struggle like this in any other fps. lmao

I wanna say I'm good at Destiny, but considering how my skill chart is somewhere ENTIRELY different with every single match, at this poitn I don't even know. lol

[somber dawn]

maybe because its more of a looter shooter and not a level up and get guns game

[marble kiln]

Some matches I'm Frostbolt, other matches I just installed 10 seconds ago.

[somber dawn]

and more based around building a loadout that synergizes well

[oak hatch]

i feel that way too much. dropping a 40 kill game then a 5 kill game

[marble kiln]

There is zero consistency.

[gaunt pier]

Hehe skill issue

[winter smelt]

oh for gods sake why did they buff telesto again

[marble kiln]

That is, unless you just play the meta.

[somber dawn]

oh wait this is the same guy that i egoed then shat on in a 1v1 gg

[winter smelt]

this joke aint funny anymore

[gaunt pier]

It’s the pc players man

[marble kiln]

You were crying in a pub and I still have the screenshots. Please don't start this again.

[gaunt pier]

They got them cheats n shi

[somber dawn]

and you tried egoing back instead of just muting chat 💀

[marble kiln]

Actual jobless ape.

Idek why you have a Kakashi profile picture. You're not him. lol

You're 300 pounds too heavy to be him.

[gaunt pier]

Damn he shut you up

[winter smelt]

you should send that bro

also you cooked him 😭

[marble kiln]

Actual ragebaby. Stop egoing people and learn when to shut up.

[winter smelt]

aight charizard you can stop now

im sure hes cooked enough

[gaunt pier]

Should I get the popcorn ready

[winter smelt]

sure

[marble kiln]

Anyway, yeah. I'm honestly probably going to just stop while I'm ahead and accept that I've had a good run and pretty much accomplished all I ever wanted to in Destiny as of today.

[somber dawn]

he didnt shut anyone up, all this guy is doing is crying about mm which everyone already knows is bad

[waxen marten]

Main chat yappers

Yapping about people they don’t know

[marble kiln]

Maybe I'll come back for the new expansion, maybe I won't. At this point I need to pursue something that actually respects my time.

[somber dawn]

i sat him down cause he talked back to me

[waxen marten]

Who cares play the game enjoy yourself

[winter smelt]

alright waterboy

[frigid hatch]

you're the one whose been complaining

[winter smelt]

just play what you enjoy istg no point in playing something you dont enjoy

[somber dawn]

who r u

[winter smelt]

just another dude on discord much like yourself mate

[gaunt pier]

You don’t even know these people

[somber dawn]

im not your mate i dont know who you are

[winter smelt]

aight bro

[marble kiln]

Nobody asked you. Sit on the bench or mind your business. Either one works.

[waxen marten]

It’s annoying seeing ppl cry and complain 24/7

[winter smelt]

i find it funny nowadays

[gaunt pier]

Understandable mute chat then

[winter smelt]

i was the one complaining yesterday tbh 😭

[blissful scaffold]

@remote tulip

[waxen marten]

The meat riding is insane

[somber dawn]

asking someone to mind their buisness when you came in here crying about mm is crazy

you came in here seeking attention and told him to mind his buisness when he gave it to you

[oak hatch]

dude those macaronis are huge

[vocal talon]

I like when it is in form of Shell or Spiral

[somber dawn]

cold mac isnt that bad tbh

not like fridge cold but cooler than room temp isnt bad

[blissful scaffold]

I show it to the person i ping cause he just ate from them and now got massive food poisoning

[oak hatch]

oh man, i hope they feel better soon

[remote tulip]

have you seen bungie forums recently

[marble kiln]

I don't think SBMM ever got turned off either.

[oak hatch]

i don't go on bungie forums really, what am i missing?

[remote tulip]

a lot of people have been running into - pop off - steamrolled x4 - pop off - steamrolled x4 (x4 matches btw)

[marble kiln]

I've been fighting stacks pretty much all night.

As a solo player

[gaunt pier]

Who

[somber dawn]

stacks =/= skill dumbass

[remote tulip]

that is true

[winter smelt]

ima be so real he has every right to complain about matchmaking

[oak hatch]

i physically can't go flawless anymore, follow that pattern to the T

[somber dawn]

complain on the forums not an lfg server

[marble kiln]

You've been ignored for like 10 minutes and you're STILL swinging

[winter smelt]

we all know it cant be fixed because the low player count and the floors and ceiling being night and day

[somber dawn]

im responding to your yapping

[remote tulip]

oh i meant normal stuff

[marble kiln]

Go get some water. You're turning pink, Paul Blart

[winter smelt]

sometimes we get mad and yap in this server thats normal i was the one yapping about void titan yesterday

most of the time you just gotta accept nothing will change cuz u complain and move on and try to improve and circumvent the issue as much as you can

[marble kiln]

But yeah. Matchmaking is screwed and I don't even think they ever fixed it when they said they did.

[winter smelt]

they cant tbh

the playercount is not high enough to sift out good enough players

[marble kiln]

I haven't had a single match where there wasn't 3 people in a call holding hands and playing like it's a tournament.

[winter smelt]

its 200k players split up in hundreds of modes

[gaunt pier]

Everyone plays in squads of 3 or 4 thinking they Faze

[winter smelt]

trials probably has like 10k players at maximum

[frigid hatch]

practice what you preach and be silent while doing it, nobody here cares what you have to say, nobody here cares about you, and nobody here will ever care

[upbeat quarry]

5k max icl

[marble kiln]

I don't even go near trials anymore.

[upbeat quarry]

globally

[winter smelt]

yeah sumn like that

its so disgustingly low so matches are gonna be unbalanced

[oak hatch]

i try sometimes but it's impossible these days for solo players

[winter smelt]

i went flawless this week and im a 0.5

[oak hatch]

you get either get top 0.5% players or players that have never gone flawless

[marble kiln]

Last time I played trials and had fun was like.. The Exalted Truth season. Which is still my favorite weapon in the game easily.

[winter smelt]

you got this bro

[marble kiln]

I got the triple 100 one too. It feels CRISP

[oak hatch]

it's bad for my mental health

[frigid hatch]

going flawless is 100% luck based

[winter smelt]

same im just a masochist

[winter smelt]

ehh 80% luck 20% skill

[frigid hatch]

even with an aimbot you cant deal with 3 dudes gunning you down at once if your team mates are dead fish

[winter smelt]

if your really really bad your probably not gonna go flawless

[frigid hatch]

[winter smelt]

but like yeah for the most part ur right

i wish they nerfed the teamshot meta

but idk how they could do it without it feeling like crap

fireteam based matchmaking is the best solution we have rn as solo players

[gaunt pier]

Or bungie ups their anti cheat

[marble kiln]

But yeah. They split up the playerbase, toss duos into matches against solo players, split pubs into 5,000 modes rather than making it a single quickplay mix like any other shooter.

[frigid hatch]

there's unironically no point working on anti-cheat

[marble kiln]

Annnd that makes matchmaking even worse because nobody wants to play, meaning even less players

[frigid hatch]

the cheat producers just break it again anyway

the solution is ban the players faster

[winter smelt]

genuinely

the best anticheat would be the law

[gaunt pier]

They need to start console banning mfs again

Ban they ip

[marble kiln]

Meaning that pixel perfect "Totally not cheating" cloudstrike you ran into last match is INCREDIBLY likely to bump into you again next match.

[winter smelt]

if they made cheating in games illegal, there would still be players that did it but most would probably be too scared too

[frigid hatch]

money -- thats why companies will never do IP / hardware bans unless you're doing some straight illegal stuff

[marble kiln]

I've literally had one trials weekend where I got close to going flawless like 3 times and managed to run into the same guy on every single card.

At that point I just gave up and got my 7 wins to grind

[winter smelt]

hes right tbh

[remote tulip]

hwid spoofers and vpns exist 😭 they made a mistake making it f2p

[winter smelt]

its the same with roblox

[marble kiln]

mfw Roblox has less blatant cheaters than Destiny 2

[winter smelt]

they have actually took steps with the anticheat now but none of the cheaters got terminated to my knowledge

[frigid hatch]

Flawless is pointless unless you want Big Boss mod on your pve rolls

[winter smelt]

nah

[remote tulip]

they said theyd ban ximmers look at that

[winter smelt]

true

[winter smelt]

yeah theyre still out and about

[remote tulip]

ngl adept range is nice v nice

[winter smelt]

didnt playstation remove cronuses now

or is it circumvented

[frigid hatch]

depends on the gun, 10 Range only adds one meter to most weapon classes

and 1 meter is basically nothing to them

[winter smelt]

i wouldnt be surprised is cronus makers circumvented the software being unreadable

[frigid hatch]

+10 range only realistically helps your short-range firearms

[marble kiln]

Flawless is worthless now because anyone with luck and/or a cheater friend can shoot themself into the lighthouse with nothing but a meta build and a wheelchair for mobility.

[remote tulip]

adept handling, adept range, the minor stat bump to every stat on an adept weapon

[frigid hatch]

so SMG's, Sidearms, Shotties

[remote tulip]

flawless is def worth WAY more than JUST big boss mod

[winter smelt]

i guess your right

[marble kiln]

I'd be more impressed with someone's rank than whether or not they went flawless this weekend

[frigid hatch]

+10 handling is a zero difference

[winter smelt]

0.5kd and i just used solar hunter with ammit and conditional so i guess your right 😭

[frigid hatch]

unless the gun has EXTREMELY low handling to begin with

so basically it's useless for everything but Prophet lmao

[inland ermine]

Is buried bloodline a guarantee drop?

[winter smelt]

it has cool ships it has shaders and it has horus shell

[remote tulip]

do you have an igneous adept?

[winter smelt]

why prophet

[frigid hatch]

Adept Reload is a cursed mod, it takes away from one stat

[marble kiln]

and I hate that Destiny 2 still has this outdated "Single increment of .3" sensitivity option, dude.

[remote tulip]

i'm 90% sure frost is an open minded baiter sometimes

[marble kiln]

RIP your aim if you play anything else.

[frigid hatch]

low handling, it being a Tex Mechanica gun means you can hip-fire it effectively

[winter smelt]

ig

[marble kiln]

My .8 sens in source games is a 3 in Destiny 2, which is faster than what I actually use.

[brazen fern]

i cant be arsed to grind trials for adept weapons

[frigid hatch]

handling affects Aim-Down-Sight speed too

[winter smelt]

prophets not meant for hipfire tho

[frigid hatch]

you know whats good for that? Prophet lol

[winter smelt]

mobility is pretty underrated ngl

[brazen fern]

destiny sens is kinda borked, i want to set decimal sens for gods sake

[jagged sage]

I play Fortnite and my D2 aim got better because of it

[frigid hatch]

Igneous' issue is reload speed

[brazen fern]

why am i stuck using integers

[frigid hatch]

and the Adept Reload mod takes away from a stat to buff Reload Speed

[winter smelt]

not as good as the other stats but it does have faster ADS strafe speed iirc

[remote tulip]

do you have an adept igneous

[remote tulip]

bro rapid hit exists man 😭

[frigid hatch]

dont need one to know what Adept Reload does

[remote tulip]

you didn't answer my question from before

[frigid hatch]

i am not required to

and i do not care to

[blissful scaffold]

have u seen what i post to you ?

[jagged sage]

Yunjin play Fortnite with me

[marble kiln]

My aim in Destiny is forever bad because I'm used to having a specific feel to my aim in every other game that Destiny 2 flat out doesn't allow.

[remote tulip]

but you just did so

[marble kiln]

My Destiny 2 sens is like 2 or 3 inches faster than what I use everywhere else.

[winter smelt]

yall he has a point

[tired valley]

hey guys

[jagged sage]

Mine is only bad with Hand Cannons. I suck with HC so bad nothing I do can help me there

[winter smelt]

destiny sens is awful they should defo add more options for it

[blissful scaffold]

What sup, it is your boy Flan here

[marble kiln]

You can literally tell I'm struggling just by watching me play. lol

I overshoot shots that should be easy

[tired valley]

🔥

[jagged sage]

Aside from that, my tracking has gotten better thanks to how Fortnite guns aren’t hitscan

[frigid hatch]

oh cool, they kept reans name in corrupted japanese kanji

[wanton halo]

Anyone have any idea why I go to the chamber of starlight lost sector to do step 12 of the seasonal quest and there’s just no enemies spawning

[remote tulip]

no what was it

[winter smelt]

overwatch is the best game out there when it comes to customizability

atleast from what ive seen, there could be better out there

[jagged sage]

What is step 12?

[frigid hatch]

i've 100% improved since i restarted playing back in July but it's like Bungo said in their sandbox clarification post "you cant improve against players who are just grossly overwhelming you"

[wanton halo]

Complete the lost sector

[frigid hatch]

if a guy has a bead on my skull before i've even left cover whats the point?

[tired valley]

looks like someone jacked off into that bowl

[frigid hatch]

i cant beat that solo lmao

[raven token]

🤭

[winter smelt]

you can

ALT F4 is a savior

[jagged sage]

Did you check the chest if it was openable?

[blissful scaffold]

takes one to know one

[frigid hatch]

the last time i tried they were aiming at me through the flank routes

[winter smelt]

you could just not peak the corner tbh

or use geminis

[marble kiln]

When I'm allowed to use my true sens(I got it from quake), I just look like I'm cheating half the time and had to get whitelisted in CoD because playing Warzone got me report shadowbanned.

[wanton halo]

Requires boss cache code

[frigid hatch]

gemini is unviable in this weeks map

[winter smelt]

or use invis/skulking wolf origin trait so you can reposition

[frigid hatch]

invis does not remove you from radar

[winter smelt]

ik

[frigid hatch]

Crouching does, i was STILL being aimed at through the walls

[winter smelt]

makes it longer pings tho

honestly

[raven token]

wait what

[frigid hatch]

it never has

[raven token]

wtflip

[winter smelt]

this may sound like a hot take but there is 1 solution to fix the problems pvp has rn imo

[remote tulip]

ban ximmers

[winter smelt]

nerf the radars power, and change the spawns up a bit

[winter smelt]

that too

[marble kiln]

I agree with both of these.

[frigid hatch]

Skulking Wolf has to be procced otherwise i'd 100% agree with that point though

[winter smelt]

genuinely imo radar is too powerful

and the spawns are too predictable,

[marble kiln]

The radar is part of the reason D2 is so braindead and it also gives cheaters an excuse.

[winter smelt]

those 2 things really exacerbate the teamshot problem, if both are changed accordingly it wont completely fix it, but it would be a massive boon

[somber dawn]

mfw you have like 300 hp overshield when you spawn

[winter smelt]

someones not read the entire convo

[frigid hatch]

i dont really have too many issues in Crucible, the game actually gives me players who are within my general skill set

it's Iron Banner and Trials where issues come up

[somber dawn]

no nor do i care cause the only issue i have is with weapon balancing

[frigid hatch]

because they BLATANTLY ignore your MR lmao

[winter smelt]

imo chaff should be basekit in trials but maybe not completely

[marble kiln]

I literally left one of my old clans because our top player was a wallhacking scumbag who stared at me through the walls the whole time. Even when I DELIBERATELY equipped a set to hide myself. lol

[winter smelt]

like i do think the radar should be less effective in trials and the spawns should be different too

[remote tulip]

i mean trials ngl understandable

trials is meant to be hard to go flawless so

[somber dawn]

mfw you just sit in corner and wait for enemy to push you

[marble kiln]

"Guys I was just using the radar" - Guy perfectly tracking a sneaking hunter from across the map.

[frigid hatch]

then let it die like Gambit

[remote tulip]

too bad that wont happen

[raven token]

apparently it only takes u off radar if you're not sprinting

[frigid hatch]

"he's just better than you, take the L lol"

[somber dawn]

same way i used radar when i shat on you and you called me a cheater

[marble kiln]

It's so cringe.

[winter smelt]

that only really works with shotguns or 1 tap melees/nades

[frigid hatch]

you have to be crouching to be removed from radar

[winter smelt]

and even then those are now way less common to come by

[somber dawn]

then people will just use that and smgs

[remote tulip]

do you have proof btw? cuz if you went to like go ego one of the people in trials chat you'd def encounter the same exact thing

[frigid hatch]

the new pvp sandbox encourages you to run Resilience too

[winter smelt]

for what reason

[somber dawn]

?

[frigid hatch]

+30 extra HP gives a HUGE leeway to how much you can survive

[winter smelt]

true 7 resil is necessary now

[shadow jackal]

i didn’t get any sleep

[winter smelt]

for what reason

[frigid hatch]

i literally can not be two-tapped with everybodys Igneous / Prophet golden child setup unless you're double-buffed

I.E. radiant + gun proc

[somber dawn]

damn thats the same thing you said before, i def understand what you were asking now

[winter smelt]

for what reason are you running shotgun smg

[marble kiln]

I streamed it to my clan leader alone when we had the 1v1. They didn't believe me because most of them don't actually know how PVP works and took his excuses because he was friends with the leader longer.

[oak hatch]

i'm always caught offguard when someone survives 2 melees tbf

[tired valley]

tier 10 resil gives you 230 HP, no?

[remote tulip]

go eepy rn chalice unless you have work then

[frigid hatch]

100 resil means you need an extra 7-some shots to kill me with your Auto Rifle, 3 if it's headshots

[winter smelt]

counter pushes? sure but your range falls short and your not gonna have much options against a teamshot

[frigid hatch]

we have 230 HP baseline

[marble kiln]

He literally WATCHED the guy blatantly run straight to me for multiple rounds while I was sneaking and still coped about it being a skill dif thing.

[tired valley]

wait so we have 260 HP.

[marble kiln]

That's why I don't rep those clowns anymore

[somber dawn]

if theres no radars just flank then ape

[tired valley]

with tier 10 resil

[winter smelt]

oh right you were talking bout what i was saying

[frigid hatch]

no we always had 200 HP, with Resil in the old sandbox you had 222 at 100 of the stat

[winter smelt]

i dont think radars should be removed from trials it just needs a nerf

[frigid hatch]

thats why 3-tap HC shots were impossible unless all 3 were headshots

[winter smelt]

the cone should be a bit wider and the range should be shorter

[marble kiln]

All the radar does is encourage people to sit in corners and allow cheaters to make excuses for their sus plays

It definitely needs a nerf or rework

[winter smelt]

as it stands teamshot is meta cuz of predictable spawns and the radars strength basically nullifying any meaningful flanks

[frigid hatch]

okay so here's some useful information

in the old sandbox, everybody loved Kill Clip on their HC's

[tired valley]

oh alr

[somber dawn]

on 120s not really anything else i think

[frigid hatch]

if you had under 100 resil you got two-tapped by a body-head shot

assuming kill-clip was procced

[winter smelt]

precision instrument is way better than KC

[frigid hatch]

because it dealt 220 damage

[somber dawn]

??

[winter smelt]

body shot headshot headshot kills 100 resil on igneous

[frigid hatch]

if you have 100 resilience, it couldn't kill you, because you'd survive with 2 HP

even Igneous couldn't do it

[somber dawn]

i mean why aim for the body

[winter smelt]

head head body wont 3 tap 100 resil on igneous

[frigid hatch]

if you had ADAGIO however, you would do 224 damage

[marble kiln]

I think the best PVP meta is Shotty Handcannon because it's a scenario where the two best weapon types in the game are pretty much extremes for their ammo types if you think about it.

[winter smelt]

its forgiveness

[marble kiln]

Shotgun is extreme for special because of how close(most of them) have to get to be effective

[somber dawn]

idk i mean 1st shot for me is usually always a headshot

[frigid hatch]

bungo wasn't wrong, the extra 30 HP didn't actually change TTK for most guns

[marble kiln]

Handcannons are an extreme for regular ammo because you have to be precise with them

[winter smelt]

does destiny have first shot accuracy

[frigid hatch]

just ones with oppressive power like auto rifles

cuz now you can eat 2 or 3 more hits from them

[winter smelt]

if so that may be why

[frigid hatch]

with 100 Resil it's much more

[winter smelt]

?

[marble kiln]

..Most of the time

[somber dawn]

obviously

[marble kiln]

-Kicking Ace under the rug-

[winter smelt]

best loadout rn is imo cloudstrike and summoner

[somber dawn]

high risk high reward

[winter smelt]

trust 2 energy weapons

[frigid hatch]

hardly, just run double / triple Accuracy mods on your helmet for 8/10 free Aim Assist stat

[somber dawn]

if you can hit shots its literally the best in the game right now

[winter smelt]

i brainfarted 😭

[frigid hatch]

Igneous and Round Robin can basically almost hit 100 Aim Assist rn

[somber dawn]

along with shoulder peeking

[winter smelt]

HCs?

[frigid hatch]

it's insane

[somber dawn]

yes

[winter smelt]

theres 1 hand cannons thats underrated imo

[somber dawn]

whats that

[winter smelt]

that hc is sunshot

maybe even that thingy

[somber dawn]

its not underrated im pretty sure

[winter smelt]

uhh last word 😭

[somber dawn]

last word is ass on kbm

[winter smelt]

or final warning with a 0.27s optimal ttk

[marble kiln]

My point is that if the strongest weapon types were the two that took the most skill to use, that'd indirectly allow other weapons to actually compete.

[winter smelt]

final warnings oppressive if you get in range

[oak hatch]

final warning meta

[winter smelt]

final warnings a pocket shotgun

[marble kiln]

As it stands right now, the deciding factor of a fight is really just range and not actually who is better at playing the videogame.

[winter smelt]

true

[marble kiln]

If you're within someone's optimal TTK range, you just kinda lose

[winter smelt]

yall he spitting facts 😭

[marble kiln]

That's not a good dynamic

[winter smelt]

but u forgot one

also the deciding factor is are you teamshotting

[marble kiln]

THAT TOO.

[winter smelt]

if your not its a lose

[marble kiln]

The only gun I use right now that does well against that is Centrifuse

[winter smelt]

if your competant, duoq is easiest way to go flawless

[marble kiln]

because it flashbangs every goober dumb enough to stand next to my target

[winter smelt]

if your soloQ and your not bad, you can use cloudstrike

imo cloudstrikes a bit of a sleeper pick

post nerf its still real good for countering teamshots

[marble kiln]

I won most of my unranked matches just by picking people with Centrifuse and running away.

Because they were teamshooting and getting boinked by the headshot explosion

[winter smelt]

ig but its range is pretty lackluster iirc

[marble kiln]

Arc Warlock sprinty boi

Getaway artist amplified. Basically Apex at that point

[winter smelt]

yh lackluster range

26.6m compared to ammits 34m

summoner has 32m too which is way longer than centrifuse with a faster ttk

[marble kiln]

The summoner is just...

Please disable that gun for a bit. I am so tired of seeing it

I will HAPPILY fight the immortal instead

at least that gun had some form of drawback

[winter smelt]

at 1 onslaught stack its a 0.67s ttk at 32m

at 3 stacks its immortall ttk (0.5s) at 32m

[marble kiln]

The Summoner is like having a near max range auto rifle and an aggressive frame SMG all in one and you don't even get to really react to it.

[winter smelt]

i agree

onslaught needs a nerf specifically

theres another underrated gun

[jagged sage]

Nu

Summoner goes burr

[winter smelt]

ros araigo world drop has DSR Onslaught with 31m of range

its basically just as good as a world drop

unless onslaught is nerfed ppl will jsut go to this ar

[tired valley]

summoner aint even that good

[brazen fern]

the battler is disgusting

[tired valley]

its alright but nothing insane

[marble kiln]

I think above all else though, Bungie needs to stop making drastic shifts and focus more on steadily raising everything to have some kind of actual niche. Give me a REASON to own 500+ guns, please.

[brazen fern]

i got a perp motion + kill clip roll with stability mw and its literally a laser

[winter smelt]

ros araigo?

[brazen fern]

no battler

[marble kiln]

What is even the point of owning a Vulpecula for example? Or any high rpm handcannon?

Seraph Officer Revolver with 32 bullets

Literally may as well be an airsoft gun in Crucible

[winter smelt]

yall know adjudicator

0.5s ttk with 3 onslaight stacks

[marble kiln]

Yeah let me just tickle the enemy with this forgotten weapon archetype. That'll show them.

[winter smelt]

same as ARs just with like way less range

[brazen fern]

you could use malfeasance as a sniper

guaranteed 5 shot kill

[fading totem]

havent finished it yet lol

but its been good

[winter smelt]

if yall thought that ros araigo and summoner were bad just buckle up

[marble kiln]

The best weapons in the game are either "Broken weapon of the week" trials or raid drops, or exotics.

[winter smelt]

lethal abundance has 40m of range and 0.03s higher ttk than the other weapons

[marble kiln]

You thought you were going to use a gun you actually LIKE? LOL

[shadow jackal]

@west trout

[winter smelt]

this thing is just gonna rock the crucible for sure

[blissful scaffold]

what is your main vocation ?

[fading totem]

Archer

[frigid hatch]

got the main hero back.... somethings a little bit wrong with him though

[winter smelt]

gambit gun has 34m of range (outranging even summoner and ros araigo) at 450rpm with onslaught

[winter smelt]

with keep away its 37m of range

[marble kiln]

It's like going to an ice cream shop, having them offer you like 20 flavors, but then every flavor except for 3 of them taste like windex and the inside padding of Saint14's leg armor.

[tired valley]

he looks depressed af

[winter smelt]

real

[marble kiln]

Why offer me MINT if you're only going to make CHOCOLATE, VANILLA, or STRAWBERRY properly???

[winter smelt]

real

[marble kiln]

Destiny power fantasy my ass

[winter smelt]

lowkey just went to ur profile and realised u went by they/them so lemme get it right this time

yall they spitting facts

[marble kiln]

I can't take 3 steps without dying to 4 people in a box all using the same gun

[frigid hatch]

context of the story, one of his best friends got slaughtered in front of him in the previous game and this game takes place 2 weeks after

[marble kiln]

And I can't compete unless I ALSO use that gun

[frigid hatch]

main hero is also possessed by a demon, so yeah, he's a little screwed up lol

[marble kiln]

based

[winter smelt]

so hes angry and wants to get revenge

[blissful scaffold]

mouse and keyboard for the win

[winter smelt]

wouldnt even say based i just have basic human decency lol

[marble kiln]

If I was giving off the vibe that I want everything to be balanced and we need Overwatch 1 GOATS comp levels of uniform flatness, that's not the case. I can enjoy a broken unbalanced game, right.

[tired valley]

no wonder hes depressed lool

[marble kiln]

But if you're going to have broken stuff, why not make everything a little broken?

[shadow jackal]

womp womp

[marble kiln]

We can't have balanced everything else and broken 4 things because then everyone's just gonna use the 4 things

[remote tulip]

overwatch? like the rule34 game?

[winter smelt]

TL immortals really been thru the ringer

0.75s optimal ttk at 6 and up resil

good riddance

[marble kiln]

Like, the 30th anniversary update.

If anyone ever said that point of PVP was balanced, they'd be lying

[frigid hatch]

yeah, the rest of the party is on a rescue mission to bring him back, but them coming re-awakened his anger so he's on a rampage right now

[marble kiln]

But you saw a little bit of EVERYTHING getting used

That's why people enjoyed that update.

[winter smelt]

W

[tired valley]

destiny 2 pvp is still very balanced, its entirely skill based

[marble kiln]

People were allowed to play how they wanted as they wanted and the game was more fun for that

[marble kiln]

[valid sun]

fusion rifles:

[winter smelt]

[frigid hatch]

yeah here we go, he just had random exploration banter on the left

[tired valley]

:D

[winter smelt]

oh god sunshot has a 1.2s ttk

[marble kiln]

The mechanical skill required in Destiny is literally just ABC123 everywhere else.

[winter smelt]

im confused

[marble kiln]

If you can slide cancel and understand how character momentum works, you are officially a Destiny 2 movement god.

[winter smelt]

wheres the banter xD

[winter smelt]

u can only slide cancel on warlock

[valid sun]

Glaive

[winter smelt]

or with glaives

i like using it on arc hunter

flick 90 degrees slide winterbite swing jump blink for a quick backpedal

[marble kiln]

And all of the "Crazy" movement requires some form of macro if you don't have asian DDR levels of dexterity so I mean.

[valid sun]

glaive can save warlocks from bad jumps if an enemy is on the platform

[marble kiln]

Yeah, no this game is not hard to play at all.

[fading totem]

nuh uh

[blissful scaffold]

?

[valid sun]

and thats why you lost to mourn

[fading totem]

roller better

[winter smelt]

yall i forgot whats the best 140 HC

[blissful scaffold]

on pc ?

[valid sun]

I'm a console goober

[frigid hatch]

they took away his weapons too, he pilots a giant robot that was created by the gods, and he has a sword that houses his friends soul called "Blade of the End", the only thing that can kill a god lol

[remote tulip]

xim + ace of spades

[winter smelt]

oh i see

[fading totem]

hell yeah

[frigid hatch]

the sword can only be produced by killing somebody in a ritual

[winter smelt]

legendary 140

[fading totem]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-puncher-cat-gif-26465800

[remote tulip]

xim + rose

[winter smelt]

so his friend was sacrificed in a ritual in the last game by the antagonist so you kill the antagonist and take the sword

[blissful scaffold]

i also do archer on Dragon 1 too but controller is good for melle combat

[winter smelt]

am i correct

[marble kiln]

Destny 2 isn't a competitive game, nor are things like 1v1s worth being hung up about. I'm apathetic towards the loss. lol

I can comfortably say I lost because it doesn't matter. It's Destiny

[jagged sage]

Glaives are good

[tight sleet]

Glaives suck

[jagged sage]

Shhh

[valid sun]

nuh uh

[jagged sage]

Glaives are good

[tired valley]

yes very

[valid sun]

Glaives are amazing

[tight sleet]

Yes trials isn't competitive I just hug it out with the enemy team if I lose

[valid sun]

no april fools

[tired valley]

glaive, glaive is good

[marble kiln]

Why would I be mad over losing in a 1v1 playing a game where most of your engagements are decided by equips. lol

[jagged sage]

Yes april fools

[frigid hatch]

no, he uses it to kill a "Holy Beast" which are pets / guardians to the gods, and the antagonists kidnap him by literally dogpiling the dude

[valid sun]

no

[jagged sage]

Yes

[winter smelt]

ok well while we are on the topic destiny dropped an april fools update making telesto op again

[valid sun]

no

[marble kiln]

Even Call of Duty would matter more

[winter smelt]

so if you wanna abuse it in trials before it catches on you might wanna do it now

[frigid hatch]

in killing the Holy Beast, he triggers the "Great Twilight" which was prophesized to end the world

[marble kiln]

At least then he can way he has good aim

[valid sun]

you and mourn went at it four an hour or more-

[marble kiln]

But that'd never happen

[winter smelt]

oh

destinys skill isnt in aiming

[valid sun]

yeah its "what color will I be today?"

[winter smelt]

aimings free in d2, its game sense, decisiveness and knowing what engagements to take and not to take

[marble kiln]

I regularly lose to bad players in D2 to a point where I don't even really notice the bad players anymore and only get annoyed by repetition

And most of my loadouts are just things I want to play or think look cool.

[valid sun]

take every engagement like a MAN

[tight sleet]

And I still only hit one shot out of three with a pulse

[winter smelt]

then stop caring, honestly thats the easiest way

[frigid hatch]

the goofy thing is i can customize him right now even though my control over him is limited lmao

[marble kiln]

If I wanted to win, I'd hard lock meta, watch the radar, and treat every match like a CSGO lan.

And it wouldn't even be that hard.

[winter smelt]

accept that the meta will forever be unbalanced and dont beat urself up over losses and d2 becomes so much more bearable

[frigid hatch]

magic menu, bro should not be letting me mess with his stuff but i can anyway lmao

[valid sun]

you can't you're too busy with mourn 24/7 to play d2 anymore

[winter smelt]

is he like excal umbra

[tight sleet]

Or play pve

[blissful scaffold]

meanwhile, i just came in with Div to mark enemy so they can one shot with Cloudtrike

[frigid hatch]

no, it's like the other way around for that

[jagged sage]

Or play another game. An actual good game

[winter smelt]

but u dont control him

[marble kiln]

That's kind of why I'm going on hiatus to play other games that respect my time and make me better as an FPS player.

[winter smelt]

the controls limited

[marble kiln]

Fortnite has been pretty good as of late

[valid sun]

for mourn

[jagged sage]

Play Fortnite

We like Fortnite

[marble kiln]

Quake is still pog

[somber dawn]

bro stop this sht i will never date a man or a furry

[winter smelt]

fortnites genuinely peak and im tired of pretending it isnt

[valid sun]

nope ya'll are dating

[marble kiln]

And if I wanna play something destiny adjacent, Halo Infinite

Yes. I went there. It is better. Cope.

[frigid hatch]

you have "very limited" control, during this bit, you have to play his escape

[somber dawn]

id leave him even if he was a girl from all this btching

[winter smelt]

hating is boring 😭

[frigid hatch]

he wont use magic or items

[jagged sage]

The difference between Fortnite and D2 is that people hate FN cuz its good. But people hate D2 cuz it sucks

[winter smelt]

oh i see

[somber dawn]

?

[valid sun]

I'm never letting that 2+ hr argument over a pub match and 1v1 go 🙏

[winter smelt]

too much energy to hate fr

[frigid hatch]

so i reworked his kit to be more melee / no magic centric

[marble kiln]

This

[frigid hatch]

Lone Blade makes his first attack do +50% damage for example

[winter smelt]

but in all seriousness why not date them cuz theyre a furry

[valid sun]

you mfs are LOVIN eachother

[winter smelt]

i mean preference is preference i wont judge you but like

[somber dawn]

i dont like furries

[valid sun]

he does dw

[winter smelt]

whats the point of hating someone for their hobbies 😭

[frigid hatch]

my anime game has a furry in it now

[somber dawn]

who ever said hate

[jagged sage]

Its weird

[marble kiln]

I'm too much of a queen for him.

[somber dawn]

i dont hate furries i just would never date one

[marble kiln]

[valid sun]

holy goku black aura

[frigid hatch]

the cat girl is a yoruichi reference, she's a black cat that turns into a human (kinda) lmao

[winter smelt]

monarch type beat

monarch is a gneder neutral term for royalty

[marble kiln]

I'd never date a furry either to be fair. They're not exactly the most trustworthy partners from my experience.