💬destiny-chat

[meager flower]

Its between koraxsis and cataphract

[grand gazelle]

@naive wren @knotty verge root

of nightmares now

[tribal sparrow]

can i join

[meager flower]

Koraxsis has surrounded while cataphract has bait and switch

[tribal sparrow]

lemme join fr

[grand gazelle]

idk man let me talk about i t

if not i just lfg duo

[tribal sparrow]

is this a yes or no

[formal flower]

I just realized i missed game 2 give event im sadge anyone know when the next one going to be

[livid elk]

Garden of salvation is the best raid in destiny

[grand gazelle]

wrong

[livid elk]

Right

[chilly chasm]

that's what I'm saying

[grand gazelle]

its oobv

[grand gazelle]

eater of worlds

[coral hinge]

They did?

[chilly chasm]

where link to nerfs

2025

[tribal sparrow]

plz i want run root

[stone ermine]

Divinity run

[chilly chasm]

No

[hard sleet]

oh, bungie has freed me from their game

[chilly chasm]

Div runs boring

[grand gazelle]

wait what gl changes

[chilly chasm]

bad gl changes they ruined gl trio sanc damage

bungie fell off

[raven token]

gl nerfs were not on my bingo card

[grand gazelle]

what did they do

[raven token]

nerfed spike grenades

[chilly chasm]

nerf spike to 12%damage

[grand gazelle]

bruh

[chilly chasm]

50 to 12

[grand gazelle]

wasnt is 15

thats like 3%

[meager flower]

So now theres little to no point in running a gl

[grand gazelle]

holy cope

[chilly chasm]

No it was 50 to 12

[grand gazelle]

it was 50

😭

[meager flower]

I thought we wanted to make gls better not make them worse

[chilly chasm]

yes

[burnt lotus]

And I farmed for the adept gl

[tribal sparrow]

bro i just got crafted forb

[chilly chasm]

[meager flower]

Heavy gls

[chilly chasm]

bro is stupid

[tribal sparrow]

what

[bleak thorn]

50-12 is the worst twid news ever I read

[tribal sparrow]

what am i missing

[bleak thorn]

thats really bad

[chilly chasm]

it's fine ig

[grand gazelle]

honestly

[chilly chasm]

not that bad

[grand gazelle]

just better off using bns cc for sanc noww

[chilly chasm]

yea

[meager flower]

Heavy gls got hit with a big no no

[chilly chasm]

With the lumia hand canoon

[grand gazelle]

its not bad unless your like actually usinng it for dmg

[chilly chasm]

true

[grand gazelle]

my guess is that they wwant it for adclear

[meager flower]

Spike nade damage from 50 to 12

[tribal sparrow]

oh like cataprhartrct and stuff or wat

[meager flower]

Yeah

[chilly chasm]

ad clear?

[tribal sparrow]

forb is still goat

[grand gazelle]

rip the 1.9m on void hunter on sanc

[meager flower]

I guess its back to rockets for the gl users

[tribal sparrow]

is forb still goat?

[chilly chasm]

yes bro

[grand gazelle]

yeah

onnly reason to have that much ammo

[chilly chasm]

who ad bungie thought heavy weapons are for ad clear

[tribal sparrow]

stfu lil bro

[chilly chasm]

what?

[tribal sparrow]

wrong server

[grand gazelle]

idk tbh but like evertime they have been used for dmg they get nerfed

[tribal sparrow]

😭

[gleaming panther]

wtf lol

[chilly chasm]

Like 2% of the d2 community uses them

[chilly chasm]

I love ad clear with my gjaller

[main estuary]

the deep stone will flourish after this 😈

[upbeat apex]

sectors gonna get even more devious

[full knot]

gally needed more ammo reserves fr

[azure cloak]

increasing gl total go crazy!

[tribal sparrow]

cna i join you guys

[grand gazelle]

it needed 12 rockets

[meager flower]

17 rockets in my braytech osprey

[upbeat apex]

💀

[azure cloak]

bipod 15rpms out here "i can do so much damage just give me 4 phases guys"

[grand gazelle]

more rockets = more dmg

[meager flower]

[tribal sparrow]

if i had 60 rockets my dps would skyrocket

[floral vortex]

Would anyone be able to help me beat the last quest so I can unlock strand on my titan ? I’m at the last checkpoint , legendary

[azure cloak]

daily "calus is hard" post

[tribal sparrow]

on calus?

bro if its that hard cheese it

[grave kernel]

heavy GL buff pog

[grand gazelle]

drop join code rq ill help

[coarse burrow]

I mean, I'll take it ig??? Just for the reserve ammo, but this wasnt it

[tribal sparrow]

same

[frigid hatch]

"just cheese it bro" -- guy who will cause the wipe

[meager flower]

[hard sleet]

the skill gap was so large it killed pvp

[tribal sparrow]

if its THAT hard literally cheese it

[meager flower]

What will become of you

[chilly chasm]

they are catering to strike farmers

[frigid hatch]

you're nobody, sit down and help like you offered

[main estuary]

put some respect on the name, its a tough community

[floral vortex]

@grand gazelle kk one sec hoping on

[grand gazelle]

dude your not even on

[frigid hatch]

are they though? i mean a lot of the nerfs are pretty justified....

[chilly chasm]

😭

[grave kernel]

based, they nerfed wishender in pvp

[grand gazelle]

😭

[tribal sparrow]

lil bro said im nobody 😭

[hard sleet]

i will disappear into the night

[thorn tulip]

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[chilly chasm]

No they aren't hope you enjoy baiting without your image perms

[vapid veldt]

Ngl when I read the part about them knowing it's hard to understand what happened I thought they were gonna implement the thing tekken has

[thorn tulip]

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[grand gazelle]

im racing you in trio root somehow

[tribal sparrow]

can i join pretty please !!!

[thorn tulip]

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[grand gazelle]

idk chalice told me

[azure cloak]

el somehow even worse now since you need 40 billion orbs to make gls not terrible

[vapid veldt]

And then I remembered that even with Sony, Bungo is incapable of implementing a replay system

[winged owl]

Ngl i really like these changes

Actual gas twab

[chilly chasm]

bro

[thorn tulip]

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[chilly chasm]

dawg baiting

[grand gazelle]

ask chalice

[tribal sparrow]

the twid was fine at best

[frigid hatch]

you're not baiting me to buy it again, i had some expenses come up this month so i gotta budget for a bit lmao

[floral vortex]

@grand gazelle you just need my bungie #code thing ?

[chilly chasm]

is there any thing good in the twid

[bold spoke]

GOOD TWAB

[rugged flume]

+2 reserves to precision frames. Is palmyra good again?

[grand gazelle]

yes you better be at calus

[chilly chasm]

[tribal sparrow]

gg ig

[bold spoke]

el is 60% on gls

[azure cloak]

more reserves dont fix the guns doing considerably less damage than meta options

[grand gazelle]

wwait

[coarse burrow]

Alr im reading twab, so far hunter slam buff is a W

[grand gazelle]

does oath keeper still work with wish ender or no

[raven bramble]

@knotty verge

[azure cloak]

gls having 20-25 rounds means theres absolutely no way you get full stacks though

[rugged flume]

GL meta?

[tribal sparrow]

whos gonna tell em

[winged owl]

Bow nerf. Threadling nerf. W

[grand gazelle]

time to test

[bold spoke]

basically 15 grenades shot on el gl=bns gl

[raven bramble]

henlo

[main estuary]

3 bucks

[placid cloud]

lots of good changes in the twid, we are so back

[bold spoke]

shooting less than 15 per phase makes el better

[winged owl]

So true

[vale spoke]

If only blightranger was viable

[tribal sparrow]

3 bucks can make or break rent

[bold spoke]

so depends on context

[chilly chasm]

If you jump thread don't hurt and wish nerf ok ig

[frigid hatch]

yeah, and 800 of those 3 bucks went towards fixing my car lmao

[azure cloak]

surely theres a strat :^)

[placid cloud]

are bows still going to 2-tap when we have 30 more hp + they do 15% less?

[frigid hatch]

then i had to drop another 5 grand on something else

[vale spoke]

They’re might be for future content it is a strat just nothing is good for it rn

[azure cloak]

even 15 assumes you have 5 welllocks spamming their super for "damage"

[tribal sparrow]

if they dont bungie might as well remove them from the game

[winged owl]

Its probably gonna end up being 2 headshots or sum

[floral vortex]

@grand gazelle hellboyscrim#2760

[main estuary]

wtv messed your car up that bad sure does suck

[winged owl]

Idc, bow meta is so boring anyways

[meager flower]

Why wont bungie give high impacts a dmg boost

[rugged flume]

HUGE EX DIRIS BUFF LETS GOO

[frigid hatch]

actually, it was an issue with the breaks

[placid cloud]

i feel like if they 3-tap they'll suck, but idc

[bold spoke]

No 7 el shots plus 7 regular is equivalent to 14 bns shots

[placid cloud]

im sick of them in crucible

[frigid hatch]

not a simple "just replace them lol" issue either

[winged owl]

So real

[wide ice]

Whats that one two punch fix

[bold spoke]

And also like reproc time is a factor but not a big one

[coarse burrow]

threadling nerf, warlock melee buff, its still gonna be bad tho, but this is fine

[wide ice]

will it affect strand titan

[winged owl]

I REALLY like the trench barrel buff

[frigid hatch]

titan doesnt use threadlings

[azure cloak]

the problem is you can shoot more than 14 in a phase

[main estuary]

so whats the issue then

[frigid hatch]

except in pvp, maybe

[bold spoke]

Well depends on the boss

[wide ice]

Target lock nerf is nothing

[meager flower]

[bold spoke]

If you are killing so fast you don’t need to unload full mag

[frigid hatch]

nobodys business here lol

[tribal sparrow]

this is basically as good as apex 😭

[rocky tulip]

gotta love nothing about stasis amirite?

[main estuary]

okay man

[tribal sparrow]

how tf do you get an adept hothead

[frigid hatch]

stasis is fine where it's at, it's got strong CC and shatter isn't overwhelmingly powerful

[bleak thorn]

does it affect in pvp only or both pve/pvp too?

[main estuary]

👽

[azure cloak]

idk breakpoints for gl kills but i doubt its that fast

[rugged flume]

So one-two punch only works for 1 strand melee at a time now? Fair fair

[bold spoke]

Nobodies using target lock in pve breh

[grave kernel]

increased pvp shottie dmg by 20% lmao

[manic canyon]

@thorn tulip catalyst completed. Anything else?

[wide ice]

Only smgs

[bleak thorn]

okay thanks

[wide ice]

for both

[azure cloak]

20% special damage but 40% more hp, w

[thorn tulip]

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[bold spoke]

For older raid bosses 5-6 people on the gl can definitely kill on under 15 shots

[bleak thorn]

target perk is useless for smg pve/pvp in March 5 start

[wide ice]

Immortal and tempest have 27 in the mag so on march 5 TL activates when 5 bullets are shot

[vale spoke]

Welp this is pretty much the meta going into final shape

[meager flower]

Apex is 5% better

[wide ice]

right now it procs on 3

[tribal sparrow]

fighting lion is gone

[hard sleet]

i've already uninstalled

[azure cloak]

bungie was NOT cooking nerfing fighting lion

[main estuary]

somebody cut their break lines

[wanton halo]

So target lock requires an additional 2 bullets to proc and a group(3) of threadlings do 1 smg bodyshot less, yeah bungie messed up pvp is dead

[tribal sparrow]

tis why i said basically

[grave kernel]

they also nerfed bns

[coarse burrow]

Forerunner buff???

[wide ice]

Thank god they nerfed devils lol

[frigid hatch]

that's why i clarified, cuz someone would've been dum enough to go "a break replacement isnt that much"

[placid cloud]

yes they were

[thorn tulip]

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[winged owl]

I like this. I kinda am looking forward to running symmetry

[bleak thorn]

Rip The Immortal adept pvp god roll in March 5

[placid cloud]

prob to compensate with the more hp

[thorn tulip]

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[grave kernel]

absolutely based changes, specally fighting lion

[coarse burrow]

Oh, if its checkmate, then idc lol

[wanton halo]

meow

[meager flower]

Thats why i said 5%

[frigid hatch]

i know little about it myself, but, i went out of my way to at least understand if im getting ripped off or not lol

[winged owl]

This twab is so gas

[chilly chasm]

[wanton halo]

There's not gonna be any difference in smgs, the nerf is basically nothing

link twab

[azure cloak]

tl probably wont even help ttk more than like rampage now

[manic canyon]

The one from this season good?

[bold spoke]

Very good twab!

[wide ice]

Forerunner is back

[placid cloud]

it's across all pvp ig. the pvp strike team will have more info/stuff to talk about next week so we'll see

[chilly chasm]

That's what I'm say

[winged owl]

5% isnt bad

[bold spoke]

Envious nerf is definitely the hardest hitting nerf

[wide ice]

with ikelos and shayura combo

[wanton halo]

im lazy

[meager flower]

Atleast i can use it again

[placid cloud]

the twab is on bungie's site, stop being lazy lol

[coarse burrow]

Forerunner buff aint it

[thorn tulip]

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[wanton halo]

no

[placid cloud]

then suffer

[chilly chasm]

Same

[wide ice]

No more double melee o2p

[bold spoke]

Like envious is kinda dead if the bug is also patched

[wanton halo]

i will :((

[azure cloak]

i didnt understand the envious comment, what "activation" do they use different stats then us

[placid cloud]

yeah im not too excited for that

[thorn tulip]

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[frigid hatch]

right, not like i can have the equipment to just DIY at home for most tasks anyway lmao

[bold spoke]

No more cold comfort 4 rockets h mag

[placid cloud]

❤️

[meager flower]

THEYRE NERFING ENVIOUS?

[wanton halo]

there are like 5 hidden stats

[coarse burrow]

ANOTHER SNIPER NERF

[winged owl]

The ammo’s gonna be rarer

[wide ice]

by 50%

[meager flower]

AINT NO WAY

[wide ice]

150 to 100

[bold spoke]

Well no more 4x mag size it’s 3x now

[placid cloud]

true

[manic canyon]

I also have a masterworked cartesian coordenate if thats better

[winged owl]

100% of the mag instead of 150%

[meager flower]

BRUH

[wanton halo]

they just buffed it by 50%…

[thorn tulip]

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[frigid hatch]

i know some basic engine maintenance too which im shocked how few people know....

[azure cloak]

4x was a bug wasnt it

[wide ice]

yes

[thorn tulip]

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[frigid hatch]

most mf'ers cant even figure out how to jump their car

[placid cloud]

nah, 3 from envious + 1 from origin

[manic canyon]

Idk i bought it from banshee

[bold spoke]

The bug was above 4x

[wanton halo]

https://tenor.com/view/evo-flying-car-rally-lancer-gif-23111547

[azure cloak]

4 in mag=/=4 total

[frigid hatch]

meanwhile my parents were making me do it when i wasnt even out of middle school yet

[grave kernel]

There's an entire wall of texy before the actual changes, are these out rn or until a later date?

[main estuary]

holy COW!

[thorn tulip]

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[winged owl]

March 5

[azure cloak]

very weird, oh well thats how envious was supposed to function so not a nerf in my eyes

[wanton halo]

other peoples parents were bad parents

[placid cloud]

march 5th

[frigid hatch]

niecu

[wide ice]

bow nerf is good

[manic canyon]

I mightve actualy dismantled it

[wide ice]

tired of people sitting in the back

[bold spoke]

4x envious wasn’t a bug the bug was how it could overflow even more

[winged owl]

Im really happy

[iron sparrow]

If you pull out rocket when 2 in mag you get 4 in mag

[winged owl]

Like really. Happy.

[thorn tulip]

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[manic canyon]

I have the one crafted il just need better perks on it

[meager flower]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-gif-25339191

[frigid hatch]

100%, i never got along with my mom and my dads a bit of a deadbeat but they still made sure i was taught useful things, so i respect them regardless

[iron sparrow]

If you don't pull out rocket yoy get 3 in mag

It's a rounding bug which they unfortunately fixed

[azure cloak]

^this

[ivory stratus]

Teach me how to gos better 🥺

[wanton halo]

my parents never taught me anything useful ever until i was 20

[thorn tulip]

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[iron sparrow]

: (

[bold spoke]

Naw the rounding bug hasn’t been fixed yet

Unless this hot fix gets it

[iron sparrow]

Basically fixed

[burnt pilot]

@lofty plover GIRL NUH UH. DON'T LET THAT SLIDE BRO

[iron sparrow]

Until 5th.?

[ruby grove]

So precison rockets get a damage buff and more ammo

[bold spoke]

Because the rounding bug was still definitely working on drum gls

[ruby grove]

amazing

[light arrow]

that twab was a good read

[bold spoke]

Uh tether

[iron sparrow]

@bold spoke it did not

[bold spoke]

It did

[iron sparrow]

Say this update

[coarse burrow]

Yeah, ill tkae it

[azure cloak]

they were talking like the bug was its normal interaction

[iron sparrow]

It's for next update probably

[bold spoke]

Ya

[iron dome]

Biggest balance change in 2 or 3 seasons

[grand gazelle]

i like how this patch did nothing

[manic canyon]

@thorn tulip can i also just use my crafted heritage? I know its not as good but im low on mats rn and i really like the gun

[iron sparrow]

It's skill issue

[iron dome]

Still don't make solar warlock am actual subclass

[bold spoke]

But bungie loves shadow patching

[grand gazelle]

just make gl not good and fix pvp issues

[chilly chasm]

eggsaclty

[bold spoke]

Like with kinetic Goldie

[iron sparrow]

Idc anyways I don't have cc

[wanton halo]

its almost like they make a large balance change right before expansions

[chilly chasm]

Just make gl damage not worth it on sanc

[winged owl]

This is probably one of the best twabs for pvp in years

[thorn tulip]

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[ruby grove]

BnS nerf finally

[wanton halo]

i leave in 7 mins

[iron dome]

right before there's still like 4 months left

[ivory stratus]

Im a gos jim!! idk where to tether!!! 16:4x gamer

[iron dome]

Not a solar subclass

[chilly chasm]

crazy

[azure cloak]

ea surr koraxis suddenly #1?!?!

[main estuary]

nuh uh

[iron dome]

Anyways the twab had like

[iron sparrow]

Wdym not not a solar subclass

[tribal sparrow]

how do i get the o deepsight mine quest

[main estuary]

still trials grenade launcher

[iron sparrow]

It's basically a pocket nuke clasd

[iron dome]

2 or 3 things of note outside of the pvp section which I didn't read

[grand gazelle]

nope i dont wwant to hear iit

[coarse burrow]

Ex diris buff, maybe ill take it out of my vault for once

[iron dome]

The bait and switch nerf probably isn't too significant though

[bold spoke]

Naw pregnant is stepping up

[tribal sparrow]

chat

[winged owl]

Pve teather hunters when the…(forgot to finish because hunter sucks in pve)

[chilly chasm]

this is gamer dad cope

[tribal sparrow]

how do i get the o deepsight mine quest

[main estuary]

i don't believe it

[iron dome]

I don't think there's any 30% buffs for heavy anyways

[bold spoke]

It definitely effects gls

[iron dome]

Does it?

[chilly chasm]

yea

[vale spoke]

Surrounded

[manic canyon]

So i really cant use it huh

[grand gazelle]

41 on gls

[iron dome]

Oh yeah

[tribal sparrow]

CHAT

[dusk rivet]

k

[grand gazelle]

we love to see it

[tribal sparrow]

how do i get the o deepsight mine quest

[bold spoke]

60% gl el 47% surrounded 60% golden tricorn

[coarse burrow]

W trench barrel buff

[thorn tulip]

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[bold spoke]

30% one for all

[chilly chasm]

I'm pooping myself in rage

[winged owl]

True!

[vale spoke]

Throwing hammer trench barrel might be pretty fun

[tribal sparrow]

can yall stop spamming chat i have a question

[chilly chasm]

[grand gazelle]

no troll like it changes nothing

[chilly chasm]

No

[bold spoke]

Kinetic tremors supremacy works fine

[tribal sparrow]

how do i get the o deepsight mine quest

[grand gazelle]

if rockets not effected then game is ok

[iron dome]

What's barrel constrictor do again anyways

[manic canyon]

I know but it does save me the 3 enhancement cores i have left

[azure cloak]

less spread after kill

[iron dome]

And will it be good now?

[chilly chasm]

Idk I only play raids 😹

[iron dome]

Ah, so actually pretty decent but not the best

[chilly chasm]

True bns will still be better

Than el

[iron dome]

The trench barrel buff is pretty big considering the best hunter builds rn

[bold spoke]

Depends

On content

[tribal sparrow]

its literally a quest where you have to a raif

[bold spoke]

El is already better for gos technically because of kill speed

[chilly chasm]

El for gos sure

[coarse burrow]

Hakke breach buff, W

[chilly chasm]

It's good

[grand gazelle]

me with god roll cc with el

[main estuary]

hawthorne

[chilly chasm]

I don't care about raid loot

[tribal sparrow]

she dont got it

[light arrow]

W needle buff

[bold spoke]

And like now that el and bns gap on gls is shorter they are comparable

[main estuary]

do you happen to have the quest

[manic canyon]

@thorn tulip it has high impact reserves hip fire grip accelerated coils nd cleanshot IS

[tribal sparrow]

nuh uh

[main estuary]

idk then

[coarse burrow]

Needle's still gonna be bad tho, but still a buff

[acoustic sleet]

is the legend lost sector today not showing the exotic or is it just me?

[bold spoke]

What are you using this for

[light arrow]

Decent 6s perk I'd say, in the new pvp sandbox you'll more likely have the ammo to use the perk too

[manic canyon]

I can change accelerated to enhanced and cleanshot to red dot micro

[manic canyon]

Secondary dps so i can save my resources since i have non

[coarse burrow]

Hatchling buff, ill take it, maybe i can finally use my immortal

[grand gazelle]

why didnt you get the vorpal roll

[bold spoke]

Uh for close range?

[thorn tulip]

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[bold spoke]

Eh for supplementary dps

[thorn tulip]

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[grand gazelle]

it does but i cope i use fttc

[manic canyon]

Nez

[bold spoke]

Oh nez

[manic canyon]

I been crafting alot

[bold spoke]

For solo?

[coarse burrow]

Envious and bns nerf, who coulda seen that one coming????

[manic canyon]

Oh charge time masterwork

[azure cloak]

they call him the handler

[manic canyon]

No with reshay and conyawn

[light arrow]

Your osprey is getting extra ammo too

[bold spoke]

Oh then you don’t need a perfect one

Null composure would work lol

[coarse burrow]

Oh I saw lol

[manic canyon]

But reshay said i should get smt better

[vale spoke]

I was expecting rockets to get hit instead of b&s

[rugged flume]

So i gotta farm a cataphract huh...

[bold spoke]

I mean did you not buy the Cartesian last week

[chilly chasm]

No

[manic canyon]

@thorn tulip would it?? I can pull this from collections

[manic canyon]

I was sick last week

[bold spoke]

It would for trio nez definitely

[main estuary]

who up nulling they composure rn

[light arrow]

It isn't really a rocket issue when it's only 2 rockets in the current best frame with BNS

[coarse burrow]

Nah, bns seems to be the only option on any heavy weapon it can roll on, saw this coming from a mile away

[thorn tulip]

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[light arrow]

Ong

[manic canyon]

Perfect!

[bold spoke]

surrounded

[coarse burrow]

Way stricter activation

[frigid hatch]

rockets dont actually do a ton of damage inherently

[bold spoke]

Still used

[frigid hatch]

the issue was the perk, not the weapons

[coarse burrow]

It's good but much stricter

[light arrow]

As if you take that everywhere over BNS

[bold spoke]

Sometimes you do

And you use el in gos so

[manic canyon]

Perfect then i dont need to spend much matd

[light arrow]

And most of the other times?

[frigid hatch]

Surrounded basically requires a warlock to use effectively :S

[vale spoke]

Idk imo got double slug treatment many times where I’ve heard ppl not being able to use bait and switch

[rugged flume]

So wait 6-10 more reserve grenades in GLs. Is cataphract gonna be crazy?

[bold spoke]

Naw you can do it on every class

[light arrow]

And yet bns is still more widely used, surrounded has no reason to be touched if it's niche

[bold spoke]

It’s good on Hunter cuz rdms work with it

[manic canyon]

Yay

[vale spoke]

Cataphract and Khorakis have been good just rn there’s niche areas where they’re better over rockets

[rugged flume]

Like envious/b&s and then just dumb reserves. When you're done with that swap to Scatter Signal or Nox Perrenial and dump reserves

[frigid hatch]

issue is hunters can't have healing AND damage mitigation, only one or the other

[light arrow]

No it doesn't

[livid elk]

Guys

[bold spoke]

You don’t really need mitigation with stuff like woven healing and resto tho

[main estuary]

guys its plant

[bold spoke]

Ig that stuff is mitigation

[livid elk]

It’s me

[chilly chasm]

plant sigma lmg

[livid elk]

Yippieee

[frigid hatch]

you can't have woven AND resto procced simultaneously by yourself

[livid elk]

I can’t play gos for a couple weeks

[rugged flume]

Anyway Ex Diris is gonna be a lotta fun to use

[bold spoke]

There is no situation ever where both would be even necessary

[chilly chasm]

what buff did ex dris get

[bold spoke]

One works to mitigate damage just fiend

[lucid osprey]

whats the best way to get adept Fang of Ir Yut?

[chilly chasm]

Don't get it

[light arrow]

You could but you wouldn't be using that during damage

[frigid hatch]

i've been trying to solo Warlords Ruin on Hunter... it's uh..... it's not simple lol

[coarse burrow]

How...

[chilly chasm]

Scout rifle sucks!

[rugged flume]

50% buff to impact damage ≈ 20% damage buff overall and a 17% fire rate buff

[vale spoke]

Idk

[bold spoke]

Idk I did it with surrounded on Hunter

[chilly chasm]

Ok

[frigid hatch]

that's the problem, Warlocks and Titans can have DPS, mitigation, AND healing, Hunter has to sac one without help

[light arrow]

Cowl and nighthawk swaps is all you need

[livid elk]

Who wants to log into my account and do gos for me

[lucid osprey]

I respectfully disagree, is there a farm for adept FoIY

[chilly chasm]

No

[main estuary]

ex diris dps meta

[chilly chasm]

Noooo

Ex dris for subside

🦈

[bold spoke]

I mean you have healing Nades and you can use cowl for survivability

[upbeat quarry]

buy it

[ruby scroll]

what should I do to finish my first Crota run? I have 4th CP because I had to leave so I don't wanna restart but I doubt I'll be able to find someone for 4th encounter

[chilly chasm]

Restart

[frigid hatch]

i did Celestials with Dragon's Breath and Cure Clip Heliocentric + Scatter Signal, if the boss doesnt kill me, his friends do when im trying to run from the boss

[coarse burrow]

Bow nerf along with health buff is a good change

[rocky geyser]

Palmyra b buff sounds huge

[chilly chasm]

what's the bow nerf

[light arrow]

Healing grenade, you'll likely already be on solar anyways for cowl swap to RDMs if damage output is what you want to optimize

[wide ice]

Good, smgs will still be king 😎

[frigid hatch]

boss doing 80% of your health in one hit is not cute

[chilly chasm]

We do not wanna go back to 2020

[bold spoke]

I used supremacy sunshot and koraxis on nighthawk

It went fine

[light arrow]

You're solo, idk what else to tell you

[bold spoke]

Boss kinda fell over so

[vale spoke]

U can literlay run healing nade + nighthawk FYM

[frigid hatch]

you can replace Sunshot with Zaoli's and Dragons Breath guarentees you 2 supers (at least) every DPS phase

[coarse burrow]

if u hit heads, this should all make auto rifles competitive now

[iron sinew]

chat is this real

[bold spoke]

I mean your doing more dmg wit koraxis and sunshot is Jesus for staying alive

[frigid hatch]

maximum restoration and healing grenade and i still die cuz the boss does 80% of your HP in a single hit with Resilience at 100 lmao

[bold spoke]

Not with resto

[vale spoke]

Are you on master Dafaq

[frigid hatch]

as long as Zaoli's exists you dont really need Sunshot

[light arrow]

You're missing the bigger point of the change

[iron sinew]

insane statement

[frigid hatch]

Warlords bosses hurt man, i dunno what to tell you lmao

[bold spoke]

Well koraxis is higher dmg than db so

[coarse burrow]

Special ammo nerf along with sniper nerf just means they're dead

[frigid hatch]

one of these gets Ignition procs + massive super generation, the other does not

[vale spoke]

No way you’re dying with max resto

[bold spoke]

Idk what to tell you I got my Goldie every floor

[frigid hatch]

the ogre tapped me with a melee from 30 meters away last time otherwise i'd have a recording of the fight

[bold spoke]

Sunshot makes a lot of orbs man

[vale spoke]

Sounds like you’re just garbage

[azure cloak]

koraxis is NOT higher at all take your disinfo over 👉 there

[frigid hatch]

i just about lost it when i got deaded by a freaking melee from 30 meters away lmao

[bold spoke]

Than dragons breath?

[frigid hatch]

not anymore, sprites have a cooldown now

[bold spoke]

Yeah it is

[bold spoke]

I mean when I did solo flaw it worked fine

[light arrow]

Sounds like you need to refine you strategies instead of complaining

[main estuary]

sprites arent orbs methinks

[azure cloak]

db is nearly 4m compared to just over 2m on korax test better

[frigid hatch]

thats what Knives are for

[meager flower]

[main estuary]

❓

[azure cloak]

good gun would dual load

[bold spoke]

look up one phase hefnds on warlock 💀

[frigid hatch]

Heavy Handed

[iron sinew]

bro posted an image of the best raid exotic weapon in d2 lfg 😭

[chilly chasm]

crazy

[azure cloak]

subjective view =/= fact

[main estuary]

i could run different mods and get orbs faster with sunshot 🥱

[bold spoke]

I’m pretty sure koraxis being higher dps is just a fact

[frigid hatch]

bro doesnt even understand the whole conversation is in context of playing Hunter

[bold spoke]

I did solo flaw on Hunter

Sadly 🗣

[azure cloak]

dps isnt damage either 😔 at least state your units correctly

[light arrow]

It's better but you don't need it to finish a solo flaw

[bold spoke]

I know

[vale spoke]

If you think you can’t do healing and dps on hunter it is you that doesent know wth they’re doing

[frigid hatch]

i dont do solo flaw cuz that isn't a triumph, it's either flawless, or solo, idc about both

[azure cloak]

basically how i feel too

[frigid hatch]

then i have nothing to mitigate the incoming damage

[bold spoke]

then you must be able to do duo 1p sanc on db then………

[azure cloak]

nobody plays gos wake up

[vale spoke]

You heal

[bold spoke]

[civic kettle]

which boss

[frigid hatch]

and i die through it

[chilly chasm]

Worst take

[light arrow]

I did it for the challenge of it

[bold spoke]

Boy do I got news for you

[frigid hatch]

second boss in WR

[main estuary]

wrong

[vale spoke]

Are you just hugging the boss

[azure cloak]

gos goons in chat 🙀

[wanton halo]

[main estuary]

yeah be afraid

[frigid hatch]

no the boss is coming to me to gimme a hug

[civic kettle]

kill all the acolytes and scorn before depositing the 4th ball

[iron sinew]

h1 demons

[light arrow]

You know you can kill the adds between plates

[frigid hatch]

they respawn

[chilly chasm]

Gamer dads in chat 🙆‍♂️

[vale spoke]

Are you just standing there like a dummy and not moving

[azure cloak]

jokes on you i know you dont leave your basements

[bold spoke]

Entrance warlords

[light arrow]

Sounds like more super energy

[civic kettle]

spawnkill them if u want to be safe

[wanton halo]

i hate titans

[frigid hatch]

yep, then the boss kills me while im getting cover

[civic kettle]

coz they won't respawn for a set amount of time

[vale spoke]

So u regen and then go again

[light arrow]

Hunters can easily get off 2 or 3 supers by killing the adds between plates

[placid cloud]

the taken don't respawn for a bit iirc

[azure cloak]

spawns are on a timer

[bold spoke]

Let’s be real with that name you know neither of us have seen the sun in years

[frigid hatch]

if i cover behind the torch the boss melees me, if i seek cover elsewhere to regen rq he pecks me cuz ogres are aimbots

[civic kettle]

choose a torch that isn't close to the boss

[main estuary]

yeah get em koishi

[light arrow]

Dude if I can do it on strand warlock you can do it on solar hunter

[azure cloak]

"with that name" 💀

[glacial kernel]

when the daily lost sector says arms does that mean all? im looking for pyro gales, however it isnt listed on today in destiny

[light arrow]

The ogre is not that bad

[vale spoke]

So U loop around the pillar 💀

[bold spoke]

What else do you want me to say

[frigid hatch]

strand lock has the ability to have the holy trinity

[civic kettle]

if u want to be really funny just use merciless on the ogre boss

[frigid hatch]

Ogre melees are a shockwave, that doesn't matter blood

[civic kettle]

bruh

[vale spoke]

Then how did I do it but you can’t

[civic kettle]

if he pushes u then move to a different torch

[azure cloak]

idk find a better jab at least look up my rr so you can laugh at my gos pb or something

[light arrow]

And you have cowl and access to empyrean + resto

[chilly chasm]

what?

[bold spoke]

Thou who used the username “whisper me Lewds” doth not go outside

[frigid hatch]

and then i die to him shooting me down while im bunny hopping to try to specifically avoid that

[vale spoke]

Maybe you should just get off hunter

[main estuary]

take a good long hard look at who you're arguing with

[wanton halo]

Are people being mean

[bold spoke]

I’m not stooping that low

[main estuary]

ask yourself it it's worth it

[chilly chasm]

that's what im saying

[civic kettle]

keep restoration up via thralls

[light arrow]

I want to be helpful

[civic kettle]

have a heal grenade ready as backup healing

[frigid hatch]

yeah im just letting them continue so i have more to send to the mods when i get one of them's attention :^)

[chilly chasm]

crazy

[wanton halo]

What’re ya doin?

[wanton halo]

Oooh okie

[vale spoke]

You’re just playing bad

[light arrow]

Grabbing some Chick-fil-A then heading home

[civic kettle]

I've literally done that ogre on master

[azure cloak]

mods when they collect unread dms like pokemon cards

[frigid hatch]

there is no advice you can offer that i have not already tried for several pulls

[azure cloak]

"you have a frost?"
"go fish"

[civic kettle]

just takes more preparation when going into damage

[vale spoke]

Get off the class and try another one

[light arrow]

How many phases is it looking like for you on 2nd boss?

[main estuary]

nobody is being mean to frost

[frigid hatch]

probably about 4 or 5 rn with my current DPS plans

[civic kettle]

rip

wait u said u were on dragons breath so nvm

[light arrow]

You should probably try blade barrage and shards

[wanton halo]

Buy me someeeeee

[wanton halo]

Ooooh okie, everyone should just be friends yes yes

[light arrow]

That can guarantee you a 3 phase as most, borderline 2

[main estuary]

true !

[tame forum]

hello chat

[frigid hatch]

tried that too, that's 4 supers per DPS phase minimum, might consider it again though and just play safe the entire time

[vale spoke]

They can’t play the game

[stone igloo]

hihi

[tame forum]

among us

[light arrow]

It's a longer setup but at least you won't have to spend 5 phases on that boss

[civic kettle]

if u want to be extremely funny use merciless rocket

[tame forum]

goodbye chat

[vale spoke]

Or just try another class

[wanton halo]

The fake 1’s and 0’s video game? I think anyone can play it though.

[tame forum]

[light arrow]

Db is perfectly fine too you need total damage

[frigid hatch]

thats one of my biggest issues with the ogre is i get hella impatient lmao

[light arrow]

[azure cloak]

fake 1s and 0s as opposed to the real 1s and 0s

[civic kettle]

iirc when I did mine I just coped on lucky pants + DB

[wanton halo]

[bold spoke]

Do you want me to go goblin on your rr or something

[light arrow]

Impatient how?

[wanton halo]

Like money

[azure cloak]

no but at least theres some merit there

[azure cloak]

💰

[wanton halo]

Did you reply to the same message 3 times for different insults

[chilly chasm]

go goblin

[light arrow]

🗣️

[frigid hatch]

pump out as much DPS as feasibly possible once i hit DPS phase cuz most of the fight is spent just trying to get it started

[civic kettle]

fair

[bold spoke]

They were more or less statements

[toxic wind]

are you able to get the calus mini tool rn or nah?

[vale spoke]

You should save ammo for next phase if you’re dying

[chilly chasm]

Yes

[light arrow]

Are you killing the snipers after each totum storm?

[civic kettle]

u should bring this mentality into hefnd

[frigid hatch]

i didn't say ammo is the issue

[frigid hatch]

yep, i blast them before i grab the orb and start it

[bold spoke]

If ur struggling trust me sunshot Is so baby

[vale spoke]

You can use heavy on the waves of ads smartas

Then redo it

[toxic wind]

which presage is it?

[light arrow]

Idk what else to say then, aside from wait for ability cool downs before damage and slow down

[frigid hatch]

it's literally either the boss himself killing me, or the 40 thralls on my booty

[vale spoke]

So u use your heavy ammo to kill them…

[chilly chasm]

Presage

[frigid hatch]

im using DB for super generation + passive damage why tf would i use heavy on them...

[tame forum]

shoot a rocket at your feet to clear the thrall

[vale spoke]

Because you’re dying to them heavy =/ only boss dps

[toxic wind]

like any of them?

[bold spoke]

Because there is no way you are dumping all your db

[light arrow]

No...

[chilly chasm]

Only presage

[frigid hatch]

you dont use DB then, lmao

[civic kettle]

per damage phase ur using around 4-6 shots of db

[bold spoke]

Db has amazing ammo economy

[vale spoke]

You obviously don’t 💀

[bold spoke]

I don’t think you do💀

[frigid hatch]

the issue isnt ammo, though, i literally never said it was

so you're both arguing over a false assumption

[bold spoke]

I know then shoot the ads with heavy ammo isn’t the issue

[vale spoke]

You’re dying to ads literaly 1 rocket anything etc will kill the thrall that you’re dying to

[frigid hatch]

"shoot a rocket at the mob in your face" :B

[bold spoke]

Do you even use db

[vale spoke]

You jump 🤦‍♂️ or MOVE

[tame forum]

thats the right way to play the game

[light arrow]

You're using on your mark and knock em down with fan knives right?

[frigid hatch]

whelp, time for more blocks cuz this level of intellect is sub-canine

[wanton halo]

What’s a DB. dead by daylight I suppose

[light arrow]

Dragons breath

[tame forum]

dragons breath

[bold spoke]

Db doesn’t even have self impact damage

[vale spoke]

do you just stand there 💀💀💀💀

[frigid hatch]

correct, its what i usually use to clean mobs

[wanton halo]

Oh the d1 gun

[toxic wind]

oh wait im stupid i thought the playlist thingy was called presage 💀, so i just gotta wait for the weekly rotates then ig

[tame forum]

Dead Bard

[frigid hatch]

it can kill you

[bold spoke]

It explodes on a timer so just walk away

[gleaming panther]

I love dbd

[fervent veldt]

this dungeon is sponsored by hakke

[chilly chasm]

Yes

[vale spoke]

I think they just don’t move during dps 💀

[frigid hatch]

it explodes multiple times, each hit damages you

[wanton halo]

I’ve never played it before but it looks fun

[bold spoke]

Not if you click your “s” key to move backwards

[tame forum]

only with friends tbh

[vale spoke]

Frost is the range mod helping you kill the ogre

[gleaming panther]

It is a lot of fun, you should give it a try

[wanton halo]

I tried playing DBD once but the character monster select screen had a jumpscare so I got scared and uninstalled

[light arrow]

Idk what else to say then, just slow down I suppose run around clearing ads between torches :/

[tame forum]

solo queue tbh makes me want to rip my hair out sometimes

[stiff galleon]

you need to go to a hospital

[tame forum]

i think the only killer that does that is Sadako

[bold spoke]

So sad

[wanton halo]

Like the stand, twoballar bells

[light arrow]

The nice thing about WR is that it isn't that strict with damage windows ESPECIALLY 2nd boss

[wanton halo]

It was probably that but it made me uninstall

[gleaming panther]

Play as survivor and be toxic af

[tame forum]

good news. she still does it.

[gleaming panther]

killers are meh

[wanton halo]

[tame forum]

shes the only killer to do it

[wanton halo]

I don’t like scary stuff

[light arrow]

We should play GTFO

[civic kettle]

I want to see frost try to minmax his damage against hefnd

[glad maple]

owo

[wanton halo]

Panda!

[tame forum]

i wish i had gtfo

[stiff galleon]

solo queue dbd is probably one of the worst games, customs are fun though

[glad maple]

afternoon hop

[wanton halo]

Panda panda panda

[grand gazelle]

you missed the root

[wanton halo]

Is bunny!

[light arrow]

I love running solo hefnd just to do damage runs on the lower floors

[tame forum]

i was asleep

[bold spoke]

I think I lose brain cells every time I talk in this chat

[grand gazelle]

i do

[desert shale]

Damn

[tame forum]

i never had any to begin with

[vale spoke]

It’s year 7 I’m used to this lvl of stupidity

[wanton halo]

I thinkkk a good ol nap should fix that right up

[light arrow]

Give me 15ish more minutes Bunny

[wanton halo]

Ooooh okie

[bold spoke]

It never used to be this bad I miss y4

[tame forum]

i miss y1

[bold spoke]

I don’t

[chilly chasm]

I wished I played during those times

[vale spoke]

Decent players everytime just pump and dump and be happy with raid

[tame forum]

idr what happened back then

[chilly chasm]

I'm such a noob starting in lost 🤦‍♂️

[vale spoke]

Sucks to suck

[tame forum]

ghaul bad, bad guy lost, guardian emotes on his body

[civic kettle]

I spent 3hrs doing this on my first clear

[winged owl]

[chilly chasm]

[tame forum]

oh and curse of osiris killed the game

[vale spoke]

Lfg Last wish Cluster bomb rocket

[bold spoke]

It’s not like vanilla d2 was alive to begin with

Beating a dead horse

[tame forum]

missed out on sagira's shell

[vale spoke]

LFG galrhan Outbreak strat

[bold spoke]

Xenophage vs every boss

[frigid hatch]

i usually use Malf LP but thats not viable solo lmao

[vale spoke]

Lfg Eater of worlds

[bold spoke]

Peak meta was xeno

[vale spoke]

Double slug Xeno

[bold spoke]

I miss eater the most

[tame forum]

lets go back to when luna auto reloaded for gl meta

[bold spoke]

I was eater farmer demon

[vale spoke]

Lfg spire must have wardcliff

Must be arc staff

[bold spoke]

If og lunas were still around meta would be so restarted

[rugged flume]

Swarm of the Raven meta
Back when tractor gave a 50% buff to void weapons

[vale spoke]

Double Special Gl anarchy

[bold spoke]

Like imagine 6 players in a Luna well shooting 22 horsemans into a boss

[vale spoke]

Cascade point weapons

[tame forum]

unloading all b&s rocket shots in one go

[wanton halo]

Fren!

[bold spoke]

Grahh mountaintop recluse hammerhead

[wanton halo]

Watching YouTubeeee

[rugged flume]

Btw i wanna say sorry, guys
I picked up Whisper of the Worm back in like 2019 or 2020 and they released a twab about how they're gonna nerf it right after

[tame forum]

W

[frigid hatch]

you only used it for kingsfall anyway

[rugged flume]

No way way back when Whisper was the best

[vale spoke]

Infinite dawnblade

[tame forum]

i still need to work on the catalyst

[bold spoke]

Back in the day whisper was best for anything

[vale spoke]

Prospector riven

[frigid hatch]

yeah, fair, it's still decent but Supremacy exists too lul

[tame forum]

cant be bothered to waste 100 rally banners on shuro chi with whisper

[vale spoke]

Max super Orpheus rig

[rugged flume]

Dawg can u still send the banner into space using prospector?

[tame forum]

yes

[vale spoke]

Being able to stand on the banner

[rugged flume]

Also i remember using prospector and banner shield to get the flawless heroic menagerie kill on the hydra

Good times

[vale spoke]

I hate y4

[frigid hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw6bbS4JJEo but yeh i CAN solo bosses, even with horrible loadouts, the issue is the ogre and the mouth-ball just do so much absurd amounts of damage per individual hit they land on you

[bold spoke]

Most devastating nerf in this game was the 08/05/2021 twab

[rugged flume]

What was it

[tepid swan]

does anyone want to help me with weekly mission on master

[chilly chasm]

hoil and starfire

[bold spoke]

I mean it didn’t back then now whisper doesn’t really do anything

[vale spoke]

Go fast update

[bold spoke]

“Icarus dash incident”

[rugged flume]

Bro u gotta remind me

[vale spoke]

Double dash nerf cring

[chilly chasm]

[bold spoke]

No more double dash

[rugged flume]

Oh right...

[civic kettle]

for chimera boss just position urself behind a rock or something

[light arrow]

I used rrgnant

[rugged flume]

Bro the real biggest nerf in the game was Lunafactions tho. Full meta change from anarchy+mtt to Izinagis meta

[bold spoke]

Why monte carlo

[frigid hatch]

yeh that's the plan

[frigid hatch]

i over-thought my loadout when i coulda just ran Liar's with 1-2p

[vale spoke]

I shoulduve quit with the others when it got hit

[bold spoke]

Yeah

[rugged flume]

Honestly buff izis again so the perk can proc off of fast reloads

[civic kettle]

there's a spot to the right where u can just celestial and RDM dump with a rocket

or cataphract

[bold spoke]

Swordbreaker and sunshot =baby

[vale spoke]

[bold spoke]

You are not rdm swapping

[civic kettle]

on hefnd u def can

[bold spoke]

Why would you even need to do that

[civic kettle]

literally just pre pop celestial and swap before damage

[bold spoke]

Just dump your whole envious gl mag into the boss

[rugged flume]

Ngl Destiny has my money for life atp. Unless TFS is shadowkeep level bad i cant see myself stop playing until the end of the episodes

[vale spoke]

Khoraxis

[civic kettle]

I literally mentioned cataphract

[bold spoke]

No swap nessasary

[vale spoke]

I’ll pay a lot to just go back to season of arrivals

[bold spoke]

You are doing more damage with koraxis than with a rocket anyways

[frigid hatch]

if titans and warlocks dont need to swap i aint gonna do it either just to reiterate the point that Hunters are dog water rn

[bold spoke]

So like no point in swapping to rdms

[rugged flume]

Dawg imagine they unvault everything before TFS drops

[bold spoke]

When I did it on warlock I was swapping from karnsteins to bracers

[vale spoke]

It won’t hit the same sadly you probably can’t use everything against calus becaus of luna change

[rugged flume]

Not happening but what i wouldnt give to play crown of sorrow again

[bold spoke]

You definitely don’t need to swap on Hunter it’s kinda unnecessary

[plush finch]

Does the Lore for Vow not work? I did the combination so many times and haven't gotten it once

[vale spoke]

They aren’t bad wdym

[rugged flume]

Nah Galrahn would be more fun tho. Phase 1 with Lament and phase 2 is a 2phase

[bold spoke]

But like if you want to swap to a survivability thang and then swap to nighthawk for dmg that’s fine

[frigid hatch]

that's the point, if i need to swap to min-max when titans and warlocks dont really need to (most of the time) then that shows a critical flaw in class balancing lmao

[bold spoke]

Hunters also have the highest damage supers rn

[rugged flume]

Calus ok maybe not but in year 1 ppl fought him without luna well

[civic kettle]

hunter damage is supposed to be mobile anyway

[bold spoke]

You do not need to min max

[rugged flume]

I thought needlestorm was the best

[frigid hatch]

hunters also cant have DR, Healing, and DPS at the same time, they need to sac one to have the other two

[bold spoke]

Ses bb and cnh Goldie is more

[rugged flume]

Cool

[bold spoke]

Nether can warlock

I guess well

Nvm then

[frigid hatch]

Woven Mail build and run healing well

[civic kettle]

tbf well is 99% of instances

[bold spoke]

Uh idk why you would ever use that

[azure cloak]

well just works ✨

[frigid hatch]

cuz you can run the funny boots that make your well do both buffs too

[bold spoke]

Also couldn’t you technically run assassins cowl on strand Hunter

[frigid hatch]

if you wanna i mean

[bold spoke]

And get both

[frigid hatch]

yes Cowl works on every spec

Cowl doesnt increase DPS it just heals and gives you Void invisibility

[bold spoke]

Well running cowl on strand Hunter =dr +healing

[bold spoke]

Yeah you want survivability

[rugged flume]

Titan have the strongest and weakest subclasses in the game

[wanton halo]

Solar buffs more like solar titan buffs

[bold spoke]

You also have that build with arc Hunter with cowl where you turn your brain off an just punch everything

[civic kettle]

why would u bring strand hunter to a solo hefnd

[frigid hatch]

technically Arc Hunter has all 3 but at the cost of "you have to be in melee range the whole time"

[bold spoke]

You wouldn’t it’s proving a point

[frigid hatch]

which means you do 0 damage to Hefn lmao

[bold spoke]

So does titan

[civic kettle]

gathering + your weapons

[bold spoke]

Titan Hefnd damage is literally punching the boss

[frigid hatch]

you dont need to be on top of Hefn for BOW to benefit you

you can just stay in the torch and wait while still benefitting off BOW until he gets inside the ring then you go ham

[bold spoke]

Just punch ads during damage?

[wanton halo]

Bro they actually tackled my nitpick with vigilance wing LETS GO

[rugged flume]

If Last Wish had a master refresh with adept guns and all that would you play it?

Also same question but for GoS

[frigid hatch]

then im not damaging the boss, especially if i'm using Surrounded weapons instead of DB

[bold spoke]

Well you have to balance staying alive and doing dps

[wanton halo]

GoS weapons is what most people are waiting for

Why idk

[rugged flume]

Reckless Oracle

[bold spoke]

Db is probably the safer pick for survivability on Hunter

[frigid hatch]

then bungie needs to either apply HP scaling or make bosses not have Raid HP in a freaking dungeon, which loops the argument back around to the game is critically flawed by design

[rugged flume]

Ancient Gospel

[frigid hatch]

[bold spoke]

Like you don’t really have to think with it and it has so much ammo you can shoot the ads

[gleaming panther]

@coarse burrow Starfire build is quite fun, still getting used to it tho.

[granite matrix]

i mean if they do gos weapons like they did last wish it shouldnt matter what the old weapons are like

[coarse burrow]

It do be taking some getting used to

[bold spoke]

I think that argument applies to gotd but imo warlords was balanced a lot better

[civic kettle]

utilize cover and the boss stops damaging you

[grand gazelle]

destiny is fun just hard to balance

[civic kettle]

surrounded will come from psions who also won't be able to hit you

[wanton halo]

I get that but I have never ever heard of GoS weapons being strong. It's worth to note I have never touched GoS

[frigid hatch]

Warlords bosses have similar HP it's just they aren't Hive so they aren't nearly as overwhelming individually

[bold spoke]

Like the issue imo with simmunah is how long it takes to get to damage

[coarse burrow]

Btw I realized that impact nerf and explosive buff = lasting impression buff on high impacts since LP buffs explosive dmg

[rugged flume]

Fr

[bold spoke]

They also take way shorter to get to dps

Which is a huge factor

[frigid hatch]

i mean it also doesnt help Wizards are aimbots with 20+ Acolytes on top of it

[rugged flume]

Like Persys has a high HP pool but you can reach dps ezpz

[bold spoke]

the moths in gotd are the worst thing ever

Like they are the definition of bs death

[civic kettle]

lucent hive raid when

[rugged flume]

Riskrunner might help a little

[bold spoke]

My bad the pixel I didn’t see killed me

[frigid hatch]

thats why i gave up my last run when the boss melee'd me from half way across the arena :S

[rugged flume]

Bro if only Crotas was Lucent Hive themed 😔

[frigid hatch]

THAT is a BS death lmao

[civic kettle]

u didn't see the grenade indicator on ur screen

[bold spoke]

Which boss

[frigid hatch]

ogre

[bold spoke]

Before that was changed

[frigid hatch]

the shockwave is THAT big

[bold spoke]

I haven’t done ghosts much since I cleared sf

[civic kettle]

I've never died to the ogre from his melee before

[bold spoke]

Idk the only bs warlords death I had was getting stasised off a cliff by a knight in transition lol

[bold spoke]

That made for a peak clip tho

[frigid hatch]

that's another issue right there for WR

[tacit ledge]

💥

[frigid hatch]

jump = you die

[bold spoke]

Well it was kinda my fault

[civic kettle]

taken ogres:

[frigid hatch]

cuz ogre can slingshot you off the arena lmao