💬off-topic-no-destiny-talk

[sacred oasis]

LMAOOO

[queen compass]

Oh wait no I like yeetim

Yeetim is cool

[mild crystal]

He is alright

[sacred oasis]

yeetim introduced me to resident evil so i respect him

[queen compass]

Kinda strange way to get introduced to a long standing horror franchise but okay mario

[mild crystal]

chortle

[sacred oasis]

never saw interest in it

[queen compass]

Fair enough

[sacred oasis]

but i asked what game to play, yeetim said re3

and became hooked

[queen compass]

Resident evil got some confusing story cause all the games are intertwined story wise but not noticeable straight away

[mild crystal]

Not 2? Interesting

Story isn't the game series strongest points

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877663411067047987/968579133166723152/FDF82A93-3A18-439A-9121-32DF28DBE372.gif

[sharp vale]

Huh wuh

[pale locust]

I have chortles!

[pale locust]

[mild crystal]

laugh in a noisy, gleeful way.

"he chortled at his own execrable pun"

=~]

[mild crystal]

I said you were alright, take the small wins

[sharp vale]

Doesn't change the fact that I'm hungry

Chrotles reminds me of that one character from the Mario game on the ds where thwyr einside Bowser's stomach

[pale locust]

yeah I am talking about fawful NERD

[exotic leaf]

it’s grillin szn

[queen compass]

Summer baby

Men get ya skirts on

[sharp vale]

I'm getting my abs on

Guys

What if I took out a 100k loan

Then pay it off with another loan

And then pay that one off with a loan

So on and so forth

[pale locust]

you mean real life

die indebted

or in debt

[sharp vale]

Correct

Keep paying off loans with loans

Take 100k loan

Start business

Wait few years

[subtle tangle]

become rich

[sharp vale]

Pay loan early off with loans

Pay that loan off with loans

Use business money to pay off loan

Become rich

[sick wyvern]

Nothing like throwing away $20

[sharp vale]

I love money

https://tenor.com/view/digibyte-i-love-money-krabs-spongebob-rich-gif-19793103

[pale locust]

get sba loan

[sick wyvern]

Worse when said thing doesnt work but then they dont do refunds.

[sharp vale]

Idk why people call Mr crabs greedy

He's not greedy

He just likes money obsessively

Inb4 someone tells me the definition of greedy = intense desire

[sacred gyro]

anyone have any experience with 90s civics? im thinking about trying to buy like a '95-'99 civic dx

[sharp vale]

Yeah
If you can AFFORD ONE

[sacred gyro]

they are like 3-7k used

[sharp vale]

Any Civic between 1990-20010 is going to be a great reliable civic

But the issue with any civic older than 10 years is that they're clapped out and overmiled

AND ARE 3-7K used

Too expensive for what they are unless you find one in good condition for that price

Because back then a good condition civic with low mileage would go 2-3k easy

[sacred gyro]

i mean if i can find one at a good price in good condition then maybe engine swap?

k swap??

[sharp vale]

Nowadays a civil that's worth 500k is going for 2000$ barely running

[sharp vale]

Only if you know wtf you're talking about

[sacred gyro]

i dont personally but i got friends who have k swapped b4

[sharp vale]

Engine swaps, idc how much people talk about em or how easy they say it is

It's never truly that easy

And it is never truly that cheap

A K engine alone right now goes 2k

[sacred gyro]

oof

[sharp vale]

Wiring harness? Maybe 800$

Oh yeah, custome fuel lines, custom motor mounts? ECU to adapt to vehicle electronics? Transmission adaptation?

Not including the transmission itself?

What about programming?

Labor?

[sacred gyro]

yeah i mean it all depends on what i find, but assuming the stars align and i can get a decent price on a decent condition, it seems like an awesome car

[sharp vale]

I say

Don't waste your time

[sacred gyro]

out of curiosity, what do y ou think is better?

[sharp vale]

As someone who actually has experience with the car world and isn't some dumb kid who did a half assed a swap in their mom's back yard

It isn't worth it.

[sharp vale]

Getting a 2010 reliable vehicle for 10k and seeing what options benefit you

There's the Lexus RC models which are fairly affordable, The L models, some cheaper reliable Mercedes models, BMWs, Acuras, Hondas, etc

There's plenty of great cars that came out in 2010

[keen sail]

test

[sharp vale]

Don't waste your time with the "tuner" community nowadays

It's far too expensive and not worth it

You're gonna drop 10k on a car that'll be constantly under construction and never benefit you

And then you won't even be able to sell it for 2k because NO ONE wants to buy a clapped out car except an idiot

And then you'll struggle to get a good car for however long it takes you to save up that money

Not to mention, that type of project isn't something that'll get wrapped up in a week or a month if you're working some mediocre job and living a normal life

That's a project that'll take a year at least and over a year normally

[maiden zinc]

test

[sacred gyro]

ok thanks for all the advice, i really appreciate it. I want a car thats going to be fun, although reliability comes first.

Im fine with putting some work into it, but realistically i know my skills and that im not the most knowledgable.

[sharp vale]

All I'm saying is: If you can't identify where your motor mounts are, you are a million miles away from being close to a swap or anything comparable

Also, Hondas are NOT fun.

Honda enthusiasts say that to hype themselves up for buying a car that was made to be a boring economy car for dull people in Japan

I wouldn't mind a good ass prelude though

[sacred gyro]

im not saying its gonna b the craziest or that im even gonna actually do it, just thinking about my options. thanks for the info.

[sharp vale]

Love preludes

[sharp vale]

Hondas garbage unless it's exactly what you want

[sacred gyro]

not really sure what i want yet so ill think abt it

[sharp vale]

Reliable cars, sure. But every car is reliable when you care for it in ways that matter

[queen compass]

I'm gonna fight my body

Covid is a fucking bitch

[sharp vale]

Buy a v8 sports car and call it a day

[thin kelp]

❤️‍🩹

[hardy mesa]

#💬destiny-chat or r/dtg

[sharp vale]

I have watched the worst movie I've seen this week

[hardy mesa]

Was it judgement day?

[sharp vale]

No

It's a movie called reprisal

It is so bad

[hardy mesa]

Dang bruce willis

Hope he's doing ok

[sharp vale]

Idk who that is

[thin kelp]

The guy from die hard?

He's got cancah

Or some other physically debilitating disease

[thin kelp]

Not false

[sick wyvern]

Aphasia, which could be indicators of something else.

In other words somethings messing with his brain that makes it difficult to speak

[hardy mesa]

more accurately, aphasia is like you want to say one thing but something else comes out and it's involuntary

or something like that

[candid birch]

[hardy mesa]

my fucking god can jjk s2 come out already

[severe musk]

ju ju kai

[hardy mesa]

stupidest thing i've ever seen

GUYS

[lament egret]

wh

[hardy mesa]

need to bring back

amazing how my connection shits itself when i join go live

[exotic summit]

whats the best program to monitor my cpu temp and related stuff

[hardy mesa]

cpu z

[candid birch]

jjk?

[exotic summit]

jujutsu kaisen

peak fiction

🐐

[mossy anchor]

lol

[sharp vale]

We saw that

[mossy anchor]

You didn’t see a got damn thing

[bitter heath]

yeah right calm down amber

first you shit the bed, now you're shitting at work

amber heard

the grumpy dumpy

[mossy anchor]

Ok but

Who asked

https://tenor.com/view/modcheck-gif-19633400

[hardy mesa]

the what????

[sharp vale]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-speech-bubble-bubble-fish-meme-gif-25115905

[hardy mesa]

bruh

[sharp vale]

L

[bitter heath]

what a diverse crew

[mild crystal]

Poop madness

[wind axle]

anyone here play star wars battlefront 2

trying to fix some sound issues

[sick wyvern]

i got it but after i installed it, my friend quit playing :/

[wet quarry]

I was abt to install Battlefront but someone recommend me Outer worlds

So now, I am lost colonist feeling like I'm playing a Guardians of the Galaxy Role play simulator

[vital roost]

are u chris pratt

if so can i have your autograph

[wet quarry]

Not the real one, but I can't do jokes like him

[vital roost]

[wet quarry]

Better u ask him himself when he plays "Mario"

[vital roost]

TRUE

[candid birch]

@vital roost

[sharp vale]

HELLO AH
SHOO

[sharp vale]

ASHYOO I'm gonna dm you I need some answers

[void slate]

Good morning chat

[candid birch]

[void slate]

[vital roost]

[candid birch]

what's everyone up to?

[exotic leaf]

playing a terrible game

[candid birch]

how terrible?

on a scale of 1 to kms?

[exotic leaf]

kms

[candid birch]

wow thats bad. what game?

[void slate]

That @exotic leaf came from the Moon.

[candid birch]

oh that game. yeah its pretty garbo

im playing cyborg space ninjas. been on a bit of a kick lately

[bitter heath]

you can have my autograph

I'm an actor, as all australians are

[void slate]

Australians are paid actors

[bitter heath]

I was also a paid actor in carson videos

[wet quarry]

I'm a Paid actor who does not get paid. Am I still a paid actor?

[void slate]

You're an intern

[sour tulip]

So a broke ass Australian

Noted

@wet quarry

[sharp vale]

@vital roost <3

[vital roost]

[vital roost]

omg

[sharp vale]

Where's neenort

[vital roost]

sleeping if i had to assume

[wet quarry]

I'm not even an Australian but yes, I am broke. Mentally and Physically

[bitter heath]

yo @vital roost when are we playing longvinter

[vital roost]

that and play bad games, that's all he does

[vital roost]

long what

[sour tulip]

#relatable

[bitter heath]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1635450/Longvinter/

Steam

Longvinter

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Price

$16.99

Recommendations

1455

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american crossing

[vital roost]

this looks like animal crossing

[sour tulip]

Leg crossing

[bitter heath]

it basically is

but with firearms

[wet quarry]

bruh I thought as well until I saw the guns

[bitter heath]

seems like an animal crossing / rust combo

[sharp vale]

How is that game even allowed

[bitter heath]

I have no fucking idea but its great

[sharp vale]

It's too close to animal crossing I'm surprised that Nintendo hasn't done a classic Nintendo move rn

[candid birch]

yet

[sharp vale]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-facepalm-fml-crazy-head-bang-gif-16492152

[void slate]

Cute

[bitter heath]

speaking of games, anyone seen this one? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1608700/Soundfall/

Steam

Soundfall

Play to the Beat!Soundfall is a fast-paced music-based dungeon crawler that combines looter-shooter action with rhythm-based gameplay to create a world of music unlike any other. The closer you time your actions to the rhythm of the soundtrack, the more powerful you become! Thousands of Loot combinations! Unlock powerful new abilities, and explo...

Price

$25.49

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[pale locust]

Good night everyone

[bitter heath]

good night

[pale locust]

[bitter heath]

nipple

[pale locust]

Thank you

[sharp vale]

FOLOFY ORANG

[sharp vale]

Titty

[void slate]

[pale locust]

Helo

Good night in trying to sleep

[sharp vale]

No

Denied

[sick wyvern]

One more final then 2 weeks off before summer semester starts

[void slate]

DDoS

[sharp vale]

I have the urge

To learn multiple skills and trades

I want to work all the hard labor jobs

[fickle sentinel]

why

[sharp vale]

I want to work construction, paint, plumbing, electric, etc

[fickle sentinel]

sounds like you want to be a cripple by 35

[sharp vale]

Bc why not, I feel like it's an incredible thing to accomplish

I'm already a pretty intelligent person I just want to a lot of skills

Intelligence means jack SHIT if you don't have skills

anyone can tell you about how thermodynamics causes rubber to expand and change molecular structure and other weird knowledge

But not everyone can apply that knowledge to a physical trade

I want to apply my capabilities of learning into physical things

Ever since I bought my car a few years ago I've dreamt of restoring a classic car, but I realize I can't do something that complicated if I don't have a lot of skills and knowledge about hard trades

Throw welding into the mix, I definitely want to learn how to weld

[fickle sentinel]

you do that then

[sharp vale]

I want to be married one day and be reliable so when there's a situation like "Oh look, my car broke down, let's go to a mechanic."

I can just like, go fix it myself LOL

"No worries I can fix it."

"oh no we need new plumbing."
Nah fam I got that COVERED

[fickle sentinel]

have you considered that there's probably a reason people aren't usually pros at everything

namely, it's hard

[void slate]

That's what she said

[sharp vale]

No, it's because people are lazy and don't like doing difficult things

[void slate]

Skill issue

[fickle sentinel]

so professions of which people make entire careers out of and take years to master, you think yourself capable of mastering all of them?

[sharp vale]

I've worked at a couple of laborious jobs in my life, and I know the difficulty of being in 100° weather, hoisting around engines, installing 100Lbs of glass onto large buildings

[sharp vale]

Etc, it's stuff that I don't mind sweating and feeling exhausted to do

[wind axle]

real

[sharp vale]

Plenty of these professionals I've met have told me they mastered their trade within months to a year.

Do they do good work? Yes. Very damn good work.

[fickle sentinel]

whatever you say yeet

[sharp vale]

Only thing is that they like to focus on one particular passion because they don't want to bounce between skills

[exotic leaf]

:BackToMyCave:

[sharp vale]

I know a guy who started as a mechanic, body work, and settled to be an electrician for the rest of his life because it's what he enjoyed doing more

I just haven't found a path I enjoy so I might as well learn and try several of them

[jaunty linden]

titty

[void slate]

Your gaming womancave?

[exotic leaf]

yes

[jaunty linden]

themscave

[sharp vale]

https://tenor.com/view/no-discord-nitro-laugh-at-this-user-discord-nitro-nitro-poor-joke-gif-22160167

[void slate]

To be fair I don't have a mancave

[sharp vale]

Anyways

[void slate]

It's just a regular room

[sharp vale]

Time to become master tradesmen

[void slate]

Yeetim

[sharp vale]

I will master all the trades

[exotic leaf]

[sharp vale]

I will learn ALL THE SKILLS

[sharp vale]

Yes

[void slate]

Will you become Michael Angelo

[sharp vale]

I will be A GREAT FAMILY MAN

I will help ALL MY FRIENDS FIX THEIR PROBLEMS

[void slate]

No, Peter Griffin is the family man

[sharp vale]

And EARN TONS OF MONEY WHILE DOING IT

[void slate]

No

[sharp vale]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-evil-laugh-fire-flames-burning-gif-24546963

[exotic leaf]

No

[void slate]

You'll earn love and respect

[sharp vale]

That too

[void slate]

And 0 moneys

[signal iris]

@exotic leaf

[sharp vale]

Fuck

[exotic leaf]

@signal iris

[fickle sentinel]

@fickle sentinel

[sharp vale]

@void slate

[exotic leaf]

@fickle sentinel

[void slate]

Construction business is having a hard time because of inflation

[signal iris]

@fickle sentinel

[exotic leaf]

@void slate

[void slate]

@fickle sentinel

[exotic leaf]

@fickle sentinel

[jaunty linden]

tell me about it

[void slate]

Brock Obama

[exotic leaf]

brockoli

[sharp vale]

Idc tbh, I just want to learn how to put up drywall and lay cement

Lay tile

[void slate]

He hates broccoli

[sharp vale]

I want to learn how to put up frames

[jaunty linden]

lay pipe

[exotic leaf]

do you

[void slate]

I love broccoli, it's nice and moist in my mouth

[sharp vale]

I aredy know how to do that you know what I'm sayin

KNO WHAAHMSAYIN

Oh my god GUYS

EVERYONE GATHER AROUND HOLY SHIT YEETIM STORY TIME

TODAY AT WORK THE CRAZIEST SHIT HAPPENED

[exotic leaf]

[sharp vale]

OKAY

[jaunty linden]

wtf is that

delet

[sharp vale]

So today I was tending the front, at the shop

[exotic leaf]

it was funny

[sharp vale]

And these ladies came to the shop trying to sell some tools, most likely stolen

They were DEFINITELY drug addicts, crackheads

And they were selling some pretty expensive tools for like 30$ just cuz

[jaunty linden]

meth heads if they were white

[sharp vale]

They were white yes

[jaunty linden]

knew it

[sharp vale]

Anyways

I walk out back to hear the commotion

[jaunty linden]

meth heads be stealin everything

[sharp vale]

And I walk away because I wanted NO PART IN IT

And the techs are there genuinely trying to score some cheap ass tools bc why tf not y'know

Angle grinder? Aight let's fkn go

Drills? Even better

Anyways, long story short

These girls desperate for money and a ride somewhere

[jaunty linden]

oh no

[sharp vale]

AND THIS ONE GIRL LEGIT STARTS STRIPPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BAY IN OUR SHOP

[exotic leaf]

desperate

[sharp vale]

LIKE ON GOD SHE TAKES OFF HER CLOTHES

[jaunty linden]

never bang the tweakers

of course she did

[sharp vale]

I walked away so fast

[jaunty linden]

she's on meth

[sharp vale]

I was afraid for my life

[bitter heath]

easy way to get stds

[sharp vale]

I literally just hid in the back of the shop

[jaunty linden]

there's never a hard way

[sharp vale]

Until they were gone

[jaunty linden]

to get STD's

[bitter heath]

yeah but this is a surefire

[sharp vale]

Anyways yeetim story time over

[jaunty linden]

good story but did you get a number

[sharp vale]

No, I ran tf away

[jaunty linden]

run toward the danger next time

[sharp vale]

Like genuinely I walked around back, got back into the waiting room, locked all the doors. Told my customers "ayo, I'm doing this for our safety"

[jaunty linden]

eh, tweakers are harmless unless they got a knife

[sharp vale]

They had

Power tools

[jaunty linden]

but you had money

and that was what they wanted

[sharp vale]

I walked away with my money thank you very much

They never saw me thank god

They were high key trying to flirt with the techs

[jaunty linden]

i knew a tweaker bitch once with a retard baby arm that didn't work

[fickle sentinel]

should have done this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKmOKuj7Tw

[sharp vale]

One of them was like "you're pretty cute" to one of my techs

[jaunty linden]

she used to ask people to inject her cause her arm didn't work

[sharp vale]

And I've had experience with older girls hitting on me bc of what I look like so

[jaunty linden]

[sharp vale]

I just ran tf away

[jaunty linden]

if your arm don't work, find a new hobby, IV drug use aint it

[void slate]

It's true. I don't like it when it's too watery though

[jaunty linden]

what don't you like too watery

💦

[exotic leaf]

tiny bit of butter with salt and pepper you can never go wrong

[jaunty linden]

PASTA??

you need to try my brothers pasta he just made

[sharp vale]

"this is also most effective against punk rock hoes that will not get off your dick."

[jaunty linden]

some kind of carbonara, really light sauce and crumbled bacon

[sharp vale]

But I like punk rock hoes

[jaunty linden]

me too

i was a punk rock ho

[sharp vale]

I am a punk rocker but I'm not a ho

[jaunty linden]

i wonder how much punk rock we have in common

i was deep, but never been exclusive to a genre of music

[sharp vale]

Any punk rockers in the house tonight

[jaunty linden]

so i like punk, hardcore, post hardcore, grindcore, emo violence,

if it's not that well known, the band isn't around anymore, i'm probably into it

[sharp vale]

I listen to whatever as long as the vibe is right

[jaunty linden]

have you heard of

hmmmm

filth

[sharp vale]

Yes

[jaunty linden]

spazz?

FILTH! the list is the jam

[sharp vale]

I don't listen to them tho

[jaunty linden]

me either

[sharp vale]

I have heard of filth not spazz

[jaunty linden]

omg spazz is legend

my punk background is bay area

so most of the bands are from here

[sharp vale]

My punk background is modern day era fam

We wouldn't share too much in common

[jaunty linden]

oh man

[sharp vale]

And it's not the 2020 modern day era

[jaunty linden]

that's tough cause I literally don't know what modern punk is

[sharp vale]

Its the 2005-2014 era

[jaunty linden]

i thought punk died in the 00's

[sharp vale]

It's tough bc punk can't really be defined

[jaunty linden]

2005 i was deep

[sharp vale]

Not these days

[jaunty linden]

not back in the day either

[jaunty linden]

everything listed here can be called punk

[sharp vale]

Punk as in, no care for the expectations of the world, only live by your own standards, no harm to anyone, no bs

[jaunty linden]

and countless more

[sharp vale]

I'm more rock oriented

More "Leave me alone, don't bother me, but I'll look out of you" type punk

The type that doesn't look or fit the part but follows the basics no cares given

[jaunty linden]

so you don't like punk music? that's good cause i don't either, i like the offshoot genres and scenes

[sharp vale]

I listen to punk music

[jaunty linden]

"punk music" is a funny term, it meant one thing ever, everything since the 70's is evolutions of shit that spawned from the mindset

[sharp vale]

Correct

[jaunty linden]

of punk

[sharp vale]

A lot of emo is technically also punk

[jaunty linden]

so it's all punk, but technically not punk

emo is 100% punk, well, what i consider emo

[sharp vale]

A lot of pop rock and emo pop is also just punk

By definition

I stick to myself and don't fw anyone else is the way that I livr

[jaunty linden]

90's midwest emo is a direct evolution of 80's hardcore, which is punk

emo is super punk

[sharp vale]

For me it's more like

Kevin Levin from Ben 10 2008 type punk

Perfect character that fits the bill

Not entirely 100% him but the basic building blocks of said character

No care attitude, values particular interests and skills, cares about things when they actually matter type mindset

Not into the drugs or hard crime scene of things

[jaunty linden]

i have lived that life since i was 12

oh but i did lots of drugs

[sharp vale]

I am currently living that life, minus the drugs

[jaunty linden]

[sharp vale]

I don't do any drugs

[jaunty linden]

but half my friends were straight edge

people do themselves

[sharp vale]

I am a mix of straight of edge in terms of certain things

I will break a few laws and be rebellious in certain ways but I won't go full anarchy and do drugs bc I wan to trip balls and feel enlightened by acid an shrooms

Ya feel

No violence or theft

[jaunty linden]

controversial take: punk philosophy is right wing, politically today

because we live in clown world and everything swapped places

[sharp vale]

It is tho

[jaunty linden]

i know

only johnny rotten of the punks from the beginning understands this

[sharp vale]

Punk idealogy is basically some methes up belief of self improvement with disregard to appropriation to political or social issues

Nowadays if they were to keep the same mindset those beliefs would only be supported by right wing ideals

Left wing is far too based on group mentality for any punk to realistically every align

Emo on the other hand

[jaunty linden]

yes

not to mention left has become too authoritarian, and punk is extremely oppositional to authority

[sharp vale]

Something something don't make me go to college or attend highschool, fuck the cops, let me get high and earn money

[jaunty linden]

and, the right now finds itself often oppositional to authority, because neoconism is dead

yes dont' go to college

[sharp vale]

Hold up I have a song for this

[jaunty linden]

it's a dead end except for a small number of careers

college has been devalued by the "you must go to college" push from parents

[sharp vale]

https://youtu.be/desJKYvdq9A

[teal temple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/414508913875091466/856973584189489192/image0.gif

this is what i gotta say to this conversation

[jaunty linden]

you just gotta be more punk

i was introduced to punk when i was like 12, with a misfits album, and my life was changed forever

[sharp vale]

POST BUN

[sharp vale]

I break laws on a weekly basis and disregard authority on a living basis

Literally I am a prime definition of modern day punk.

[teal temple]

bnnuy in the fridge, what will she do

[unkempt plinth]

explode

[jaunty linden]

eat carrots

[exotic leaf]

omg bad girl

[sharp vale]

Not these kids who are off doing drugs going to skateparks and working at a McDonald's for more drugs and hedonistic sex life yafeel

[jaunty linden]

i got arrested for assaulting a minor once

he was a "minor" by like 2 weeks

i was an "adult" by like 2 weeks

[sharp vale]

I brake street crimes. Been arrested for outrunning troopers

[jaunty linden]

[sharp vale]

Break

[jaunty linden]

i was arrested and made the front page of the newspaper protesting the iraq war. that was peak punk

[sharp vale]

I talk mad shit to authority no cap

[jaunty linden]

my mugshot was front page

[sharp vale]

Pulled up one time to a person threatening to have me arrested for driving wreckless and I told him to prove it

[jaunty linden]

well, a meta mugshot, a photo of the mugshot being taken on the street

[sharp vale]

While the cop was right there

I was like "prove it then."

[jaunty linden]

should've just run them over

[sharp vale]

The cop just stared and was like "Yeah man, idk what to tell you." To the dude

Defying authority is my favorite shit

Like, you literally only have power over me because you expect me to follow a made up rule that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of life

[jaunty linden]

why do people only extend that to police

there's a hell of a lot more authority than cops

[sharp vale]

Yeah

All of which I talk direct shit to

Owner of a property? Yeah man I'ma talk shit, cop? Same. School admins? Yeah. Guards? Etc, all gonna get shit from me

[jaunty linden]

i maintain a large distance from urban sprawl because cities are a hellscape of restriction

[sharp vale]

Had to take a drug test once and told the dudes to fuck off because I wasn't ordered to take mandatory drug tests

[jaunty linden]

actually i lied, my peak punk moment wasn't what i said it was

[sharp vale]

After emailing my judge, they were like "oh, looks like you were right."

[jaunty linden]

i remembered another

[sharp vale]

My peak punk moment was when I was being interrogated by cops after turning myself in

And talked MAD shit to the cops that showed up first

They were like "why did you run?"
"Because I knew I could."

[candid birch]

chilled bunz

[sharp vale]

"that doesn't answer the question." "Yes it does, I ran because I knew my car would outrun it. I knew I had it in me."

[jaunty linden]

oh cool im glad i wasted my time

[sharp vale]

And then I told them they weren't shit and started talking to the state trooper that I outran

[jaunty linden]

typing that

[sharp vale]

Now that dude was actually still cool

[unkempt plinth]

so… you’re verbally abusing people just doing their job?

[jaunty linden]

lol

[sharp vale]

He was very respectful and I actually got along with the state trooper

[teal temple]

dude cops are such fucking pedantic idiots

[sharp vale]

Doing what job? They just showed up on scene to a case that they knew nothing about and was none of their business

[jaunty linden]

in high school, i had a 3 foot purple mohawk, and i broke my wrist at a punk show but didn't know i broke it, and so like a year later had to get surgery and had a cast on, that was bright pink

[teal temple]

i got pulled over once for not using my turn signal when i clearly fucking did, his excuse was "i didn't see you use it" like lmfao ok buddy retard ole pal

[jaunty linden]

there was a mock election at my school, and i made the front page of the local paper, handing in my fake ballot

[unkempt plinth]

verbal abuse on cops that are idiots, sure, but like some of them deal with so much shit

[sharp vale]

I don't dress the part of punk, I think that's silly

[jaunty linden]

and the headline read "PUNK ROCK THE VOTE"

[sharp vale]

I just embrace the ego no fucks given

[jaunty linden]

i wore the uniform as a youngin cause young people do stupid shit

[sharp vale]

I never talk shit to cops that don't deserve it

When I was talking to the cop who was told to detain me for wreckless driving, he knew that the dude was talking bs and we had a conversation about repairing his truck

[unkempt plinth]

and what constitutes as deserving it?

[exotic leaf]

most cops are just high school bullies who never left their hometown lmao

[jaunty linden]

but i also lived the life, i would go out drinking in the city with the sf crust kids at like 14 i dunno wtf my parents were doing allowing that

went to shows almost every night

[sharp vale]

Them trying to obviously power trip on me when they have nothing to do with my case

Trying to act tough trying to scare me waking up on me like rude and arrogantly

When they have absolutely 0 to do with the event

They were just there as back up

[unkempt plinth]

you can just like, get a citation and dispute it or file a report on said cop for not doing their job correctly

[sharp vale]

To a kid who outran the dude who outranks em

Who cares, that shit never passes unless there's grounds for a lawsuit

[unkempt plinth]

it could, you never know

[sharp vale]

If they're gonna come up to me waste time trying to interrogate me when the state trooper that I outran was right there, who's in the wrong?

[jaunty linden]

society

[sharp vale]

Me for refusing to take them seriously? Or them for wasting their outranking officer's time and my time when I could've just talked to the officer the first time

Something something "Why did you run, you have something to hide? Are you a criminal.?" Something no I just ran bc I felt like it

[jaunty linden]

i hate cops because i was a skateboarder, and cops/security guards love fucking with skateboarders

[sharp vale]

When I was in jail I talked so much shit to them too

[unkempt plinth]

running from a law enforcement just gives them grounds for reasonable suspicion

[sharp vale]

Treated me like I was shit and I was like "You do realize I'm only in here because I outran one of yours right? I didn't do anything worth being treated like shit for."

[jaunty linden]

gives them grounds to use force too

[sharp vale]

Correct, but it doesn't give some dumbass back up grounds to do anything but just be there to make sure I didn't try anything

[jaunty linden]

i don't want to give them grounds to use force

[unkempt plinth]

it gives them grounds to detain you which gives them grounds to use force

[sharp vale]

Incorrect

That's incorrect

Do y'all not remember anything about the George Floyd incident?

[unkempt plinth]

who?

[jaunty linden]

if you run, they gain the right to arrest you to find out why you're running, and by nature of running, you are defying their orders

aka grounds to use force to detain you

[sharp vale]

They don't have to use force to detain you unless you're resisting

If they catch you they can detain you by regular means but that doesn't mean they can start wailing on you and wrestling you down

I turned myself in an hour AFTER I ran from em

[unkempt plinth]

either way, unless your state is stop and identify you can just tell the officer to come back with the proper legal documents and walk away

[sharp vale]

They just showed up unnecessarily, I literally walked up casually to the state trooper and they wasted our time

[sharp vale]

Officers were charged with murder in an incident involving excessive use of force

[unkempt plinth]

i c

[jaunty linden]

bad verdict

[sharp vale]

The main arguments made by the prosecution was that there was no reasonable suspicion for excessive force to have been used and there was reasonable doubt as well

[jaunty linden]

political pressure, evidence in the case directly contradicts the prosecution

[sharp vale]

Yeah

[jaunty linden]

he demanded the force himself

[sharp vale]

But my point stands

[jaunty linden]

he said "put me on the ground" when he kicked his way out of the cop car

[unkempt plinth]

that’s what I meant by my comment, detaining you allows them to use force if you resist

[jaunty linden]

said "hold me on the ground"

that case is gross in every way

[sharp vale]

Reasonable suspicion and reasonable doubt entail whether they can do that to you or not

Cooperation as well

They can't just use force on me if I decide to be smug with them

[jaunty linden]

they weren't using force with floyd until he refused to hang out in the cop car

started kicking the window and demanding they hold him on the ground

[sharp vale]

I didn't verbally attack these guys either

I just smart assed them

[jaunty linden]

and he had 3x the lethal dose of fent

in his system

[sharp vale]

If I turned myself in, legally, under reasonable doubt and reasonable suspicion there's 0 reason for them to use force or get aggressive

[jaunty linden]

i'm more concerned with the cops that shot that homeless dude in his tent, killing him

or the dude crying, crawling on the ground, as cops shout contradictory orders at him, then gun him down

[sharp vale]

That literally means I could talk as much shit as I wanted to and if they attacked me they'd be in the wrong

[jaunty linden]

both of which resorted in no punishment

for the officers

[unkempt plinth]

I mean, even calling them shit heads is legal since it’s an attack on the profession, hence not fighting words of verbal assault and most swears are protected in the US

[sharp vale]

Bc If I was cooperating and coming in clean, that means they already knew they had me and there was no reason for them to use force over verbal communication

[teal temple]

dunno why the fuck american cops are so damn vicious

[jaunty linden]

i lost all sympathy for cops during covid, when they made it clear they weren't good guys

[teal temple]

like bro, remember when they pushed that old man out of the way when he wasn't even in the way? oh and then some dude tried to help him and another one of his buddies stopped him?

[sharp vale]

I take my chance to be smug and smart ass cops any time there's an opportunity

[unkempt plinth]

a few bad apples spoil the bunch

[jaunty linden]

they're not, but there is an outsized media focus on the incidents that get violent

[sharp vale]

I've talked so much shit to so many cops before

[jaunty linden]

but there's also a lot more cops killed in america, than other places

[sharp vale]

I have so many stories about me being threatened by cops because I refused to respect their shitty behavior

[unkempt plinth]

you never really hear about the good cops since that’s expected, only the bad ones

[jaunty linden]

in my opinion the good ones been purged

from the force, they're gone

[sharp vale]

The police force in every state is independent

[jaunty linden]

covid did that. "arrest business owners, ignore looters"

[sharp vale]

Remember that, they're not government controlled

The police force in every county, city, etc is all independent

[jaunty linden]

they are mayor controlled

[sharp vale]

It's the state's rights to have independent defense and power

Meaning cops are bad because they've turned state defense into a business

When money is involved, and power is involved, abuse is always the next step

Infact, if you had the funds and support, you could open your own precinct/police force RIGHT NOW

[jaunty linden]

sherriffs are the highest law in the land, sherriffs are cool

they are not beholden to politicians

[sharp vale]

Y'all remember the pinkertons?

[jaunty linden]

weren't they commie enforcers

[sharp vale]

Stuff like that is still legal in the united states as long as you're recognized by political powers such as mayors and politicians

[jaunty linden]

good luck getting funding if you're not going to be a tool of the state

[sharp vale]

Here's how policing works

[jaunty linden]

imo policing is just a political tool

[sharp vale]

Open police force: hire mercenaries, have rich people pay you to enforce their agenda, get rich, hire more mercenaries, congratulations you have a police force

That's literally it

That's all it's ever been

[jaunty linden]

there's a reason if you're rich enough you can hire bodyguards that will use force on cops

[sharp vale]

There's a reason why some people are infact immune to the law

[jaunty linden]

because those bodyguards are so well protected, since their entire industry/clientelle are the rrichest people on earth

[sharp vale]

The law can't detain you if you're the reason why that force even has power to enforce said law

[jaunty linden]

they will beat the fuck out of a cop for hassling you

cause they know you'll make sure they're protected

the law won't touch em

[sharp vale]

Anyways

[jaunty linden]

private security is a crazy world

[sharp vale]

That's why I talk shit to cops

[jaunty linden]

truly above all laws

like, if you just wanted to live a very interesting life

[sharp vale]

They're just fancy mercs

[jaunty linden]

become a high end private security

[sharp vale]

They ain't better than regular people

[lucid sigil]

the police exist to oppress the working class

[jaunty linden]

with big name clientelle

they exist to oppress the poor

[unkempt plinth]

ah qualified immunity, ignorance of the law is not an excuse… Unless you’re a cop

[jaunty linden]

but lets be honest

[sharp vale]

The police don't exist to oppress anyone

They exist because the population literally pays for the population to be regulated

[lucid sigil]

yes they do, it's why they exist

[sharp vale]

And when rich people pay more, they're gonna regulate by their standards

[lucid sigil]

learn how the state works

[sharp vale]

You're

Wrong but okay

[jaunty linden]

the state is both as nefarious as you portray it, but also incredibly incompetent

[unkempt plinth]

cops exist to enforce rules that allow for a functioning society

[jaunty linden]

if the people ruling us were competent, we wouldn't be having this conversation

[sharp vale]

Someone made a force to regulate the population, someone pays a shit ton of money for that force to have power and political influence, whatever happens after isn't the intent

It's the result of the operation

They don't exist to oppress anything, it is simply the result if it happens to happen

[sharp vale]

Incorrect

[unkempt plinth]

explain

[sharp vale]

Cops exist because someone formed a coalition that is funded by lots of people to regulate those same people

I already did explain. What do you think the government established the police?

[jaunty linden]

best way i've heard it stated. "the people in power absolutely would do all the evil things we assume they're doing, problem is they're buffoons who don't know what they're doing, and are grossly incompetent

[hollow marten]

Bro

[sharp vale]

The government in most countries doesn't have the right to establish a police force unless you're in like Russia or something

[hollow marten]

Snore talk

[jaunty linden]

they have evil intentions, and sometimes we see that clearly, but god they're bad at their job

[sharp vale]

They only have the right to establish a police over the government if it's something like martial law

[unkempt plinth]

that how they exist, not the reason

[sharp vale]

Most police forces are made by an independent individual Lmao

[lucid sigil]

yeet accept that he's wrong challenge (impossible)

[jaunty linden]

you know what's a fun talk? how long america has left

cause it's all comin down

i say 2030 we see peak civilization collapse

[sharp vale]

can't be wrong, police are independently made establishments for the purpose of enforcing state and federal laws that no one else would be capable of enforcing

[unkempt plinth]

depends, the economy has been a major issue in America for years, what will probably happen is your currency gets inflated

[jaunty linden]

well we're there already

my theory is we're seeing a controlled demolition

of the global financial system, specifically USD

[sharp vale]

How can independently made organization exist simply to oppress the class that made them?

That only happens as a byproduct

Not as the intent.

[jaunty linden]

cause it's been clear for years, this facade cannot continue

and was barely holding up as it is

[unkempt plinth]

America’s like trillions in debt

[sharp vale]

That's how and the reason lmao

[jaunty linden]

i think they're trying to bring it all down, within 2 years the dollar won't exist

then say hello to the real nightmare

[unkempt plinth]

the US dollar becomes the next dong

[sharp vale]

You think some random mf gonna make a police force and fund it bc they have on particular reason in mind?

[sharp vale]

Simply impossible

[jaunty linden]

central bank digital currencies, programmable currency the gov't, and possibly your employer, controls what its spent on

[unkempt plinth]

the only way to fix the issue is devaluing the currency so much by printing more money that the debt because worthless

[jaunty linden]

banks, globalists been pushing these hard lately

[jaunty linden]

that's already happening

[sharp vale]

America is probably in its WORST, conditions right now yet all of the world powers are still reluctant to make moves that would antagonize America

[jaunty linden]

but that can't happen to the extent necessary to solve americas problems

we need venezuelan inflation

[sharp vale]

Even Russia with Ukraine is playing it VERY, VERY close

[jaunty linden]

and that is an effective financial collapse

[fickle sentinel]

because that worked so well for Venezuela

[jaunty linden]

usd dead

that's why it will likely happen in america

the dollar has got to go

[sharp vale]

America won't face a downfall any time soon

We are simply far too powerful

[jaunty linden]

we're in the middle of it

[unkempt plinth]

America still has the largest military force in the world

[sharp vale]

We have develop far more influence than any country ever had

Or that any country ever hoped to dream of

[jaunty linden]

we won't go down as the global hegemony easy

[sharp vale]

People hate to admit it but the entire world literally depends on America's actions for EVERYTHING

[jaunty linden]

trying to start ww3 is a good way to get the major threats america faces on the global stage, to self damage

oh hey, we're doing that too

[sharp vale]

If America has issues, EVERY country has issues

[unkempt plinth]

they more so depended on britain

[sharp vale]

Incorrect

Britain stopped being important for anything back in the 1800's

[jaunty linden]

america is literally collapsing as we speak, we are engaging in the actions a collapsing super power would be engaging in

[unkempt plinth]

in the past Britain had more influence over the world than the US does now

[sharp vale]

America steam rolled the world after the 1850's

[jaunty linden]

debasing the currency, proxy wars so blatant ww3 could start tomorrow

[sharp vale]

America won't collapse, we'll just suffer through another economic bust

America as a country will still come back strong

The world will simply not allow America to fail

[jaunty linden]

we didn't survive the 2008 crash, we put a really bad bandaid on it

that bandaid, and all the other bandaids we've put on the problem are coming home to roost

[unkempt plinth]

America will just push the issue further down the line like last time

[jaunty linden]

i don't think we can anymore

have you seen how much money the fed created in 2020

[unkempt plinth]

it’s still not too bad

[sharp vale]

Just bc the genpop doesn't like America doesn't mean the world leaders don't need America's survival

Literally most of the world's economy depends on our survival

[jaunty linden]

just to prop up seized financial markets and prevent asset bubbles from bursting

[sharp vale]

I'm personally not worried

[jaunty linden]

you should be, the only solution is endless printing, which means we get poorer and poorer

that's why i'm saying they can't print their way out this time

[sharp vale]

If America does start struggling the rest of the world will bend over backwards to get us back on top

[jaunty linden]

inflation is threatening americas global status badly

[unkempt plinth]

I don’t think Australia’s dependant on America at all tbh

[sharp vale]

There's simply no other country except Russia and china with infrastructure capable of making the world turn like America can

[jaunty linden]

saudis ready to dump the petro dollar, china, russia, brazil and india came out in alignment for a new multipolar world

[sharp vale]

But most of the world doesn't want to be buddy buddy with Russia or China

[jaunty linden]

the dollar is being dumped as the reserve currency

nobody is buddy buddy with america, they're just our pawns

[sharp vale]

You're dead wrong. America is Australia's 1# depending country

[jaunty linden]

china/russia are too proud to become america lite

[unkempt plinth]

how exactly?

[sharp vale]

Australia gets most its success from massive export and import to the top three superpowers being America

If America collapsed and we didn't have enough money to continue dealing with Australia, your economy would tank as well

[jaunty linden]

australia is america lite, they're dependent

canada is america lite

[unkempt plinth]

we still have China to abuse

[sharp vale]

What are you gonna do? Sell more to Sweden? Wtf Sweden gonna do? Pay you trillions?

[jaunty linden]

england, etc. all baby americas. russia/china will never be americas subjects

[fickle sentinel]

China is another story in and of itself

[sharp vale]

Not gonna happen

[jaunty linden]

they have a cultural identity

[sharp vale]

China ain't gonna spend more than what they need, you're still gonna lose massive economic success from America

[jaunty linden]

the west has been abandoning all unique cultural identtiy and becoming "america 2"

russia/china see this as an existential threat

[unkempt plinth]

literally happening right now, China’s dependant on Australia for coal

[sharp vale]

People fail to realize how dependant their countries are on America

[jaunty linden]

to the concept of being chinese, and russian

[sharp vale]

Yeah, just "coal."

[jaunty linden]

russia would rather see itself destroyed than be americas pawn

[sharp vale]

Countries make most of their money by exporting and importing a lot of different resources to several different countries

[jaunty linden]

and this is dependent on cheap oil

[sharp vale]

Just one resource ain't gonna cut it lmao

[jaunty linden]

which we see, is rapidly becoming a thing of the past

[sharp vale]

Anyways

[jaunty linden]

countries that look inward

[sharp vale]

The world needs America to survive

[jaunty linden]

and not globally, are going to be better off

as things get worse over the next 20 years

[sharp vale]

America will never 100% collapse

[fickle sentinel]

mad doomer hours in chat rn

[jaunty linden]

you know, they said that about rome too

[sharp vale]

We'll just go through a rough patch and bounce back

[jaunty linden]

and every other empire

[sharp vale]

Yeah but that'll simply not happen in this generation

[jaunty linden]

yet, 250 years is how long they seem to last

and oh look, america is right there

[fickle sentinel]

ancient civilizations aren't a good metric for modern civilizations in any sense

for better or worse

[sharp vale]

We have far too much built and far too much knowledge at our disposal for the simple errors they made to obliterate us

[jaunty linden]

it's a metric for human fallability

and self inflicted wounds

[sharp vale]

Yeah, if humans remained at a static level of progress

[jaunty linden]

america is absolutely self inflicting serious damage

[sharp vale]

Maybe if we still wore robes and used stone tablets to write

We will bounce back harder

It just won't feel fast

[unkempt plinth]

coal is still a very large provider for their energy, if Australia's cut off too quickly then they just kind of run dry

[jaunty linden]

what makes you think technological progress, has any correlation with human beings being stupid creatures that think short term

short term solutions create long term problems, we've been short term fixing our problems forever

[sharp vale]

Look at the habits that humans have today compared to the past

That's your answer

A roman style collapse depends entirely on how willing the world's people are to destroy such a massive civilization

[jaunty linden]

human beings are just as prone to ego, corruption, etc

[sharp vale]

And how willing they are to lose everything

[jaunty linden]

we're as stupid as the humans were 1000 years ago

[sharp vale]

The thing is, everyone right now isn't willing to lose

[fickle sentinel]

if you gave someone from ancient rome a smartphone they'd probably think you trapped god in it and that you were the devil or something

[jaunty linden]

i have a feeling children born in about 20 years will say the same thing, when we talk about how life used tobe

think you're making shit up

we have seperated ourselves from all of reality. ask a 20 year old where the food at the grocery store comes from

bet plenty of them think it's just there

[sharp vale]

Idk man

[jaunty linden]

no idea how, no idea where it actually comes from,

[sharp vale]

That's another reason why we simply won't collapse

There's just too many people

[jaunty linden]

you saw this during covid, people pushing for lockdowns were immune to people pointing out the immense complexity, and impossible to predict consequences of such shutdowns

[fickle sentinel]

I am literally 20, are you saying I don't know what a farm is

[jaunty linden]

and 2 years later, supply chains are still fucked

now diesel is at an all time high, can't wait for those consequences to start poppingup

[sharp vale]

They will

I'm PRAYING THEY SHOW UP SOON

[jaunty linden]

and again, leadership is absent

[sharp vale]

I WANT THEM TO ASAP

[jaunty linden]

us gov't throws money at everything

us fertilizer companies shut down causes costs were too high

[sharp vale]

The best chance at building your life is also the same time when the most amount of issues are happening

[jaunty linden]

causing fertilizer shortages, and now impending global food famine

why didn't the gov't step in and keep those companies operating

ferilizer kind of important

this

[sharp vale]

Too big to fail in every single way. We are far more advanced, have far more influence on a global scale with far more people ancient people could ever hope TO DREAM

[jaunty linden]

no civilization that collapsed, realized they were in a civilizational collapse until it was too late

[sharp vale]

There is such a thing as expanding too much that failure and complete loss is inevitable

[jaunty linden]

overpopulation isn't real

[sharp vale]

Look at Britain, one of the first countries to have influenced the world on a global scale

They are still here because their influence and spread has allowed them to stay relevant

We will never be relevant

[jaunty linden]

we're actually at significantly greater risk of serious problems from low birth rates

[sharp vale]

Didn't stop existing at its core

America will not stop existing any time soon

[jaunty linden]

i think you're wrong

[sharp vale]

Believing that it'll happen within our lifetime is silly

Uhh

Mate what

[jaunty linden]

the petro dollar going away would be the biggest thing to happen in our lifetimes, and it's just one of dozens of potentially earth shaking changes happening

all bad for america

[sharp vale]

Anyone who actually believes we're ever going to be close to nuclear warfare is delusional

[jaunty linden]

americas strength is the USD

americas military protects the USD

[unkempt plinth]

"too big to fail"

proceeds to lose against Sparta multiple times with a numbers advantage

[sharp vale]

There's been several countries that have taken the Rome route and didn't cease to exist the way Rome did

And have suffered the same way we have

[jaunty linden]

both have been significantly weakened through either criminally delusional, or outright traiterous policy

[sharp vale]

Mexico, Spain, Britain, Japan, etc

All of which went through these issues in the 1800-1900's

To think that a country can just cease to exist in the modern day is silly

To temporarily fail? Definitely

To completely be eradicated? Nah

America will never stop being a major player

[jaunty linden]

LEt me lay it out for you. President biden has repeatedly stated a desire to see putin thrown out of power, this means the door is shut for negotiations to end the conflict.

America has refused to negotiate, we've now bragged about helping kill russian generals, and sink their flagship

[sharp vale]

Only during this tem

[jaunty linden]

if this escalates, as russia has already said

it considers itself to be at war with nato

right now, because of how america and nato are behving

if russia feels an existential threat

nukes become an option, and biden keeps making this existential

[sharp vale]

The fact that no noticeable difference has actually occured leads me to believe that we're all playing the waiting game until leadership can negotiate later down the long term route

[jaunty linden]

biden saying he wants regime change, is saying the only outcome we accept, is an overthrow of russias gov't

[sharp vale]

And no one will allow biden to make a decision that would risk conflict with Russia

[jaunty linden]

if that's the case, it's only a matter of when nukes are used

[jaunty linden]

that doesn't matter, he's still out there pretending to be president

[sharp vale]

Once again, thinking that, that decision is made easy, is extremely delusional

[jaunty linden]

they are literally under those orders right now

they have their nuclear systems on high alert 24/7 right now

because of americas escalations in ukraine

[sharp vale]

Simply won't happen

[unkempt plinth]

nuclear fallout will be devastating for everyone involved, if Russia throws the first nuke it will not be a pretty battle on Russian soil, every country knows the dangerous of using nukes

[jaunty linden]

ok

i think they want it to happen

[sharp vale]

Why would anyone want that to happen

[fickle sentinel]

nobody is launching nukes lol

[sharp vale]

No you just can't comprehend context

[unkempt plinth]

exactly

[jaunty linden]

not trying to get into that, people do not handle ukraine rationally as a topic

[sharp vale]

No one is going to use nukes

Not even Korea would do that

Uh, he's saying that America helping Ukraine in a one way conflict with Russia, is only making Russia more agitated at American relationships

[unkempt plinth]

you can see from the cold war period, everyone's afraid of engaging in nuclear warfare, even if Russia and the US have over 10k combined iirc, no one will launch

[jaunty linden]

i mean, it's not like american presidents, politicians, etc. havent' been saying ukraine joining nato would force a russian invasion of ukraine, and that would be a sacrifice of ukraine

[sharp vale]

Except they can't

Every country except maybe china, and north korea have several protocols before even considering nuclear war

[jaunty linden]

for 20 years at least they've been saying what would happen if nato continued expanding, and ukraine being sacrificed for american hegemony to weaken russia, was always the predictable outcome

[unkempt plinth]

they can cause mutually assured destruction of wanted

[sharp vale]

Our president isn't even allowed to consider the option if nuclear war before planning with his general and cabinet and even then he'd be ruled out of office he made such a dumb decision

[jaunty linden]

and now we have nato sacrificing ukraine, to weaken russia. but sure, america had no role in it

[sharp vale]

Putin has a shit ton of advisors he runs the country with, nearly the same shit

Korea wouldn't be dumb enough to risk total annihilation just to nuke someone

[jaunty linden]

what i don't understand, is why people who say they support ukraine, want to see the maximum number of ukrainians killed

[unkempt plinth]

NK would lose another war

[sharp vale]

Even a psychotic megalomaniac knows that they aren't singlehandedly powerful enough to compete against 50% of the world

China knows better than to risk destroying something they want control of to make their private world better

[unkempt plinth]

if they decided to launch nukes they would lose the war

[jaunty linden]

america is currently fighting a war with russia, and they're willing to fight down to the last ukrainian

that's what i said

technology has advanced, we haven't

[unkempt plinth]

except we're dumber

[sharp vale]

I don't. You underestimate how little control humans actually have over a decision that big

[jaunty linden]

ya humans in the past knew what plants you could eat

they knew how to find food

[unkempt plinth]

same goes for the Greeks, we're just simply dumber

[jaunty linden]

we're way fucking dumber

[sharp vale]

Doubt

[jaunty linden]

our world is built for maximum convenience, we are in another universe from where things are made

if there is a collapse

modern humans will struggle

guess who will do well

[sharp vale]

That's very incorrect

[jaunty linden]

uncontacted tribes

[unkempt plinth]

ancient Egyptians knew the tide of the Nile and how to farm crops with the Nile, they had no real technology, no one could do that nowadays

[jaunty linden]

in new guinea and shit, they will have no issues

they will keep on truckin

as we self immolate

[sharp vale]

It can take less than a few minutes to authorize nukes during a hellish war but definitely not under normal circumstances

[severe musk]

barry McOckiner

[jaunty linden]

bro those fools tracked the movement of stars and shit, they could get things done

[sharp vale]

It has to take less than a few minutes during a massive war

[jaunty linden]

using nukes doesn't mean global destruction btw

[unkempt plinth]

that was the Greeks and they calculated the earth's circumference very precisely with two sticks

[sharp vale]

But during a low scale war where most of the world doesn't care, nukes are not an option

[jaunty linden]

nukes are big, but like

you still need a shit ton of them to wipe out a country

and small yield tactical nukes exist

minimal radiation, etc.

not saying i want to live in a world where using tactical nuclear weapons becomes standard procedure for war

[unkempt plinth]

I doubt anyone now could do what the greeks did thousands of years ago without some basis or guide

[jaunty linden]

yes, and we all thank the comrade for not blowing us up

but maybe he should've

[unkempt plinth]

humans evolve, just not in the right direction

[jaunty linden]

i just think it's safe to predict what we see in ukraine, is what we are going to see in taiwan

sacrfice to american hegemony

weaken our threats, by sacrificing an entire nation through proxy war

[unkempt plinth]

and it was even better thousands of years ago

[jaunty linden]

i am firmly opposed to this strategy, i fucking hate war, and if america requires wars to remain a superpower, then maybe it's better to burn out than to fade away

you also had children younger, became an adult at 13

[unkempt plinth]

better than being shot because of your sexuality

[jaunty linden]

we're not indonesia

[unkempt plinth]

there's 77 countries that do that

[jaunty linden]

how many are governed by islamic law

[unkempt plinth]

no clue

[jaunty linden]

i'd guess nearly all if not all of them

[lucid sigil]

world fucking sucks right now and it's still better than it used to be

[unkempt plinth]

the Greeks actually had very good medicine for the time period

most things we're just "you were scratch, sorry, you're going to die"

[jaunty linden]

bruh i saw someone claiming that's how the trans community lives, cause they refuse to go to the hospital when injured, cause someone might use the wrong pronoun, so they're like "cut myself, shit, guess i'll die"

i was like what on earth

[lament egret]

Gm revie 🥺

[lucid sigil]

Gm emi 🥺

[jaunty linden]

must be nice to have such levels of power

[sharp vale]

Bro, two nukes across the globe opposite of each other with this crazy ass global weather would probably yeet the population unironically

[unkempt plinth]

well... One thing I want to say about it, completely accepted without issue in both Greek and Roman society

literally no one cared

[lucid sigil]

gay greek sex.mp4

[jaunty linden]

god, i can't imagine having entirety of western civilization living in fear of me

[lament egret]

so true

[jaunty linden]

it's impressive what they've accomplished

[unkempt plinth]

there's literally trans gods, gay gods, myths of gay heroes, why would they not be accepting of that if it was a major part of their society

[jaunty linden]

i'm sure we'll see arrests soon, europe is on that path

yo, romans were all about exploring sexuality and pushing boundaries

but they were into kids

[severe musk]

real ass shit yall wouldnt understand

[jaunty linden]

and that's like, just way too far

[severe musk]

keep it G trill thats gangsta

[mild crystal]

[lament egret]

uxie

[mild crystal]

hi emi

[severe musk]

its not okay to not be okay

[jaunty linden]

it's not okay to be human

[mild crystal]

[jaunty linden]

if i put posters up taht say it's not okay to be white, will that be racist

what about

"it's not okay to be purple"

[severe musk]