💬off-topic-no-destiny-talk

[desert pilot]

i wanna play hightower now

[drifting ivy]

add me

[desert pilot]

ok

[drifting ivy]

and we play same lobby

[desert pilot]

[drifting ivy]

Currently playing scottish bottle man

[desert pilot]

i will just play classic demoknight

[drifting ivy]

aight

[void slate]

[candid birch]

I need a new game to play. played through ff12 and im kinda burned out on it

[void slate]

Play ff13

[candid birch]

fuck no. that one was a travesty

[drifting ivy]

pls tf 2

[void slate]

ff14?

[candid birch]

nty. never been a big fan of competitive shooters. im just not very good at them. its why i never pvp in deadstiny

unless i have to for a quest or something

[candid birch]

hmmm don't feel like reupping my sub for that one. not really enough content atm for me to stick with it

probably will closer to the next xpack announcement or something idk

[drifting ivy]

play terraria then

modded

long play time

even base game

[void slate]

just how many Final Fantasy games are there?

[candid birch]

played it was not a fan. actually am looking for something with more of a story

[drifting ivy]

Celeste

[candid birch]

they're working on 16 atm. and that's just the main line series. lots of spinoffs and the like

[drifting ivy]

/region

[candid birch]

that actually has a story? i though it was just a super difficult platformer?

[drifting ivy]

It kinda has a story

[waxen coral]

Tyvm ❤️

[drifting ivy]

but its a good game non the less

[candid birch]

...maybe i should just pick another ff 😛 lol

[drifting ivy]

Play Celeste 😡

[candid birch]

but i want a good story game 😦 ill make a compromise with you and add it to my wishlist so if i see it on sale ill grab it

[void slate]

This weird looking grape is world's biggest single celled organism @queen compass @desert pilot

[desert pilot]

yummy

im gonna eat it

[candid birch]

whats it called?

[void slate]

Valonia ventricosa

[candid birch]

apparently there's one bigger called Caulerpa taxifolia. can grow up to a foot long o.o

[void slate]

I have never seen Star Trek. Should I? @candid birch

[candid birch]

uh... which one? any of them?

[void slate]

I thought there is just one star shrek

[candid birch]

HAHAHAno. imo the original show from the 60s is still a terrific

[queen osprey]

FUCK THAT

[long tundra]

OG, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager, Enterprise, then a bunch of new ones

[queen osprey]

WASTE OF TIME!

[candid birch]

can't beat the original

[long tundra]

OG is William Shatner, TNG is Patrick Stewart. Those are the big two

[void slate]

what is waste of time?

[queen osprey]

watching tv

[high wasp]

Besides expanse

[somber anvil]

@high wasp

[dawn moss]

AC4 WD1 RDR2

watch dogs 1 is a great game

very modern and gritty tone that was executed well

[candid birch]

no on AC4 because im not the biggest fan of stealth save for a few exceptions. RDR2 is a little pricy for me right meow but will add to wishlist

@desert pilot i know really liked the story so that's definitely something to look at

[desert pilot]

rdr2 is one of the best single player games OAT

incredible story game

[candid birch]

i just don't feel like paying 60 for it right meow so imma wishlist it xD

[desert pilot]

i paid 20€ for it on cdkeys

but it is worth every penny

[void slate]

Please look at this inverted image of Jupiter

[desert pilot]

looks good

[void slate]

Jupiter has been taken

[dawn moss]

WatchDogs 1 then

the 2nd one is good but the tone is way diff than first and it gets repetitive

3rd is as

[exotic leaf]

or the yakuza series since it’s free rn

[void slate]

Too bad I bought it all except Yakuza 6 and Like a Dragon

[desert pilot]

absolutely

i fucking love yakuza

[exotic leaf]

sucks you aren’t into soulsborne games @candid birch ds3 is awesome

[exotic leaf]

i just started the remaster of the first one and i’m enjoying a lot of it, the walking and running is super wonky though lmao

[void slate]

i love yakuza too very honorable drug dealers, bimbos and people smugglers

[void slate]

Yakuza 0?

[desert pilot]

you should play yakuza 0 first

[candid birch]

i mean... i could go downstairs put my balls on a table and hit them with a hammer and still get the same effect does that count?

[desert pilot]

but yakuza kiwami has my favourite game mechanic ever

[void slate]

Yakuza 0 is prequel and shows connections with newer games @exotic leaf

[desert pilot]

majima everywhere

[exotic leaf]

yakuza kiwami

[candid birch]

never even thought about the yakuza games

[void slate]

excuse me oh I thought you meant the atrocious bosses

[void slate]

compared to Kiwami 1 Yakuza 0 is all flowers and sunshine

[desert pilot]

kiwami is ez

just get tiger drop asap

[exotic leaf]

souls games aren’t that hard lol they get a bad rep

[void slate]

Yakuza 1 hits differently if you know character back story @exotic leaf

[high wasp]

hello bee i was just at the veternarians office i hope you are having a good evening

[void slate]

from friends to sworn enemies ;_; @desert pilot

[exotic leaf]

i’ll download 0 tonight thanks friends 🥹

[desert pilot]

nishki is a better villain after playing yakuza 0

[somber anvil]

i am good thank you yeti hru

[void slate]

yes

[candid birch]

wow there's a lot of yakuza games o.o

[desert pilot]

7

[high wasp]

perpetually sleepy

[void slate]

Nishki sounds like niski which in Polish means short @desert pilot

[desert pilot]

plus the spinoffs

[dawn moss]

have you heard of elden ring 😁

[void slate]

not on PC 😡

[exotic leaf]

is that an NFT

[candid birch]

I've tried bloodborn and I've tried demon souls and the original dark souls. didn't like any of them

[void slate]

I know there is a Yakuza spin off in medieval Japan @exotic leaf

[dawn moss]

no.... grow up dude....

[desert pilot]

emulator

[void slate]

she's a girl!

girls can't be called dude

[dawn moss]

ok does she have NFTs worth more than entire houses?

[void slate]

you should say dudesse

[dawn moss]

i dont think so

[void slate]

I would sooner eat poop than buy nfts

[exotic leaf]

ds1 demon souls are def rough ones to start with, blood borne is where i started and i loved it but not for everybody

[dawn moss]

all memes aside starting with elden ring is also good, its the most 'noob friendly' in the series

[exotic leaf]

elaborate

[void slate]

I want to play Dark Souls ||with a mod that adds Halo guns||

[exotic leaf]

yeah it’s a lot more forgiving than the others

[void slate]

@exotic leaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryū_ga_Gotoku_Kenzan!

[dawn moss]

old ubisoft made bangers

[somber anvil]

@exotic leaf

[void slate]

Ubisoft got hard on NFT

see what I did there???

[exotic leaf]

hiiiii luna!!

[void slate]

Luna Lovegood

[dawn moss]

I love NFTs

[somber anvil]

hi lewdieshifer

[void slate]

Neat
Finnish
Toddlers

[candid birch]

[exotic leaf]

Elden Ring is a lot of fun even though end game stuff is annoying

[void slate]

Lewsh I think that season 9 of family guy is not available in Polen

[somber anvil]

hi bkron!

[exotic leaf]

you can’t watch it anywhere?

[void slate]

maybe my internet was acting up I will check again

my eyes burn

I should get eye drops

okay it loaded halleluyah!!!

season 9 is the first one where Family Guy changed to 16:9 format

[dawn moss]

elden rings endgame tbh kinda sucks

[high wasp]

not just the end game

[dawn moss]

all the fun and exploration happens in the beginning, then by the time you hit the later areas youre like get me the fuck out of here im sick of this

like, just let me finish the game already i dont wanna explore these hard ass zones

[high wasp]

@void slateare you hyped for family guy in fortnite

[dawn moss]

its you! youre the thing!

[void slate]

wat 😮

[dawn moss]

Today, I will show you how to train your dragon

Welcome Mike, to the Monsters University

[high wasp]

my friend was telling me theyre putting family guy in fortnite

[dawn moss]

Thats what they call me, the Top Gun

[high wasp]

idk if its true

[dawn moss]

stewie skin is literally p2w imagine having a hitbox that tiny

its confirmed tho

it literally got leaked edie

it was found in game files next to a vader skin which also got released

[void slate]

turkey supports whoever is hotter

[dawn moss]

turkey plays both sides

[exotic leaf]

depends which ending you do

[dawn moss]

nah i mean like azula and the mountains, the whole time im always like hurry this up

ive only done the frenzy and star endings

[exotic leaf]

the mountains were awful to go through, 0% enjoyment there. crumbing was pretty fun besides the whole falling and dying every 5 minutes

im right at the end but im trying to do all of the bosses for platnium so my next two runs can be quick and easy

[queen osprey]

nice

[dawn moss]

i havent done all the bosses

[dawn moss]

im not in the mood for malenia

[dawn moss]

is that mancake from fortnite

[exotic leaf]

dont worry Maliketh is worse :')

[queen osprey]

holy fuck loud warning!

[exotic leaf]

idk what youre talking about

[dawn moss]

i already beat him, hes easy once you just sit under his ass and dodge his air attacks

[dawn moss]

is this multiverse

[exotic leaf]

its the second phase that did it for me his moves were wicked unpredictable

[exotic leaf]

Malenia took me like 40 tries without summon i hated that boss too

[queen osprey]

i 1 tapped both so ezpz

[dawn moss]

his second phase took me a while but its not too bad

malenia just looks like a rage inducer

[exotic leaf]

liar + fake

proof where

[dawn moss]

you mustve bought the in game elden ring from the in game store, pay to win player disgusting

[queen osprey]

proof right here

[exotic leaf]

the second phase is the most annoying for her because most of her moves 1-2 shot you lmao

[dawn moss]

i like the second phase visually

[cunning elbow]

j

[high wasp]

who is darth vader texting

[fickle sentinel]

Ur mom

[hollow marten]

Hes texting dn

[thick orbit]

@signal iris Decided to download a FO4 collection ... I am glad I got prem

[boreal hawk]

One of the portals in the spell room at the Savathun boss fight is bugged, we can't enter it and we've already tried going back to orbit and everything, How can we fix it?

[dawn moss]

Nice off topic question

[trail crow]

Ok so my last discord account got disabled for no reason, not involved in anything at all. I was using a different lfg discord and now can't join it even though it's public. Any ideas?

Hence the pfp

[dawn moss]

Did you click a link

[trail crow]

Nah man not that I remember

[high wasp]

if your account was stolen it probably sent scam dms to others and they banned it for that. maybe you can message one of their mods

[trail crow]

Asking friends to see

[trail crow]

Where can I do that? I sent an email but that's all

[high wasp]

I mean the other lfg discord. There's nothing else besides emailing you can do to get your account back afaik

[trail crow]

Ohh

Idk who the mods are :/

Was in the middle of trying to join a kingsfall group actually

[dawn moss]

discord support is a joke btw

[trail crow]

I gather

[sturdy kindle]

who got chegg?

[chrome falcon]

Im trying to do the tutorial for season of the plunder but i cant cause i left it accidentally. Any idea how i can rejoin it?

[dawn moss]

i dont have chegg, i do got a work ethic tho

[sturdy kindle]

🤔

[grand vault]

I felt like i had to tell someone, but I like men

[mild remnant]

Can someone help me with a quest please

[exotic leaf]

[dawn moss]

WHAT

[mild remnant]

?

[dawn moss]

what help

[tropic dove]

where do i type /region ?

[high wasp]

Have you tried typing it in any of the text channels

[tropic dove]

/region

[high wasp]

It should give you a pop-up with options

Like /region regions Europe

Oh it worked nice

[tropic dove]

yeah i got it, thanks (: just wasn’t sure if there was a bot commands channel i was missing or something

[exotic leaf]

Dragonlord Placidusax annoying

[livid hull]

you think he drinks so much mountain dew code red that his lightning is dyed red

[exotic leaf]

fr fr ong that code red be spittin

[desert lynx]

aw

[near hill]

https://imgur.com/RAvKpcW

[hardy mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/756028725887238177/960066543830569020/B55FF14D-ECD3-4709-9CCF-7ECD3961197C.gif

[exotic leaf]

how could you

[bitter heath]

nothing better than this

it got better no way

[cedar atlas]

In case yall haven't seen yet

Discord has broken and is falsely ip banning people for changing anything on their pfp

So, don't do anything to your profile rn

[long tundra]

Sounds like they're on top of it https://discordstatus.com/

[high wasp]

damn the rare actually true 'your account will be banned if you___' chain mail post

[cedar atlas]

Yeah, I have the Twitter post about it but can't post it here

No image perms

[wet quarry]

[exotic leaf]

[wet quarry]

I'm actually drinking Starbucks

[queen osprey]

why

[wet quarry]

Trying caffeine

[exotic leaf]

delicious

[queen osprey]

poison

of the mind

[languid bay]

<<< never drink coffee but anyway

[near hill]

⭐ Here's your gold star

[fierce gate]

Are point contact cannon brace exotics still disabled?

[near hill]

Sounds familiar. What game?

[queen osprey]

its destiny 2

[near hill]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-hmph-surprised-gif-18286648

[queen osprey]

TRUE OR NOT TRUE

IS IT DESTINY 2 OR NOT

[exotic leaf]

idk is it

[queen osprey]

im thinkin it is

[near hill]

idk what density is

[exotic leaf]

never heard of it

[queen osprey]

🙄

[high wasp]

ive never even heard that term

thats how out of touch i am

[queen osprey]

you have lost touch with the common man

[exotic leaf]

[wet quarry]

[languid bay]

what matrix should I use on venus if I go with this set?

volt damage?

[queen osprey]

why dont you ask in their discord

[languid bay]

[dawn moss]

HI EVERYONE!

[void slate]

Forknife????

[formal heron]

anywhere know where I can post Youtube vids? I see the stream promo channel but I don't know if it's appropriate to post that type of content there.

[queen osprey]

only donators can post videos

and images

[near hill]

You can post youtube videos on youtube.

Hope that helps.

[formal heron]

ahh I see. Thanks for the info.

[formal heron]

But if it's a youtube vid then wouldn't it already be on youtube? If you clap your hands when no one is around, are you just high fiving yourself?

[queen osprey]

oh

my

[void slate]

your what?

[near hill]

at least he's self aware

[dawn moss]

yo

[high wasp]

ask in #💬destiny-chat

[queen osprey]

whats going on here

[dawn moss]

tube worms

[high wasp]

demon in princess monoke

[void slate]

Oh Princess Monocle

[trail citrus]

Just got home from work, was a crazy night

[desert pilot]

om hi caddi!!!

[trail citrus]

hello my love K

[mild crystal]

hello there

[pure solstice]

So... i can't help but notice the kik channel no longer exists, what happened with that shitshow?

[trail citrus]

kik channel?

[mild crystal]

How do I surpass the "new raider" rank?

[desert pilot]

how are you??

[trail citrus]

im p good, just got off a pretty crazy night at work lol

[trail citrus]

#roles

[desert pilot]

thats great to hear

[trail citrus]

i got punched in the face

[desert pilot]

what the fuck

[trail citrus]

yeah lol

its okay not very hard

[mild crystal]

ty

[desert pilot]

that good at least

[trail citrus]

some girl also threw a laser tag vest at me and i caught it, pretty sure it was the most badass moment of my life

[mild crystal]

Just realized it still has me set to NA, but I'm EU

[desert pilot]

hell yeah

[trail citrus]

go into #destiny-stats and type /region EU

[mild crystal]

Thank you! Been stuck like that for months

[queen osprey]

can do it in this chat

[trail citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-remember-asking-gif-18088104

[queen osprey]

alright FUCKER

[trail citrus]

[queen osprey]

FUK U

[kind dirge]

test

how do I update my name? this is not my in game name anymore

[hazy nebula]

To change or update your nickname on this server please re-register on our website. https://d2lfg.com
Visit our #faq channel for more information.

[trail citrus]

Steam scammer's attempt to get my CSGO knife, 2022, colorized

[queen osprey]

showq

show

[jaunty linden]

i once had a karambit

i got it free

[queen osprey]

nice

i had a karambit slaughter

2 x patterns backside sadly

[queen osprey]

unbox?

[trail citrus]

no, im not that lucky

traded

i did unbox a knife once but it was only worth about $200

[queen osprey]

oh

my only luck was unboxing 2 knives in a week span

but they were both trash

but i did get gloves too

[trail citrus]

i havent had great luck. i did a big unbox on my birthday and got that knife and a $40 red from like 40 cases

[queen osprey]

yeesh

[trail citrus]

i unboxed 20 cases like a week ago and didnt get better than a purple so im done with the gambling for a bit lmaooo

[queen osprey]

yeah

fucvk all that

[trail citrus]

i do have a pretty expensive inventory, since i have some expensive skins on the guns i use

i think my inventory is worth like $3k+? Something like that

[desert pilot]

thats cool and all but check this out

[trail citrus]

ill take that bet

[desert pilot]

so many people have

didn't work out for em

[trail citrus]

its a good way to go

[desert pilot]

true

i got to 2303 kills in like a month

we do a little grinding

its fast when i regulary get 30 kills per game with it

[queen osprey]

too bad

its a trash game

lolz

[desert pilot]

[trail citrus]

ive never played tf2 personally

[desert pilot]

dont say that

[desert pilot]

i love it

[queen osprey]

tf2 is just overwatch but worse

[desert pilot]

tf2 is fun you just suck

[trail citrus]

overwatch is already bad

[queen osprey]

exactly mypoint caddince

[desert pilot]

why you gotta be a dick about it you dont see me going around talking shit about your interests

[trail citrus]

blizzard like the biggest game company on earth and their corporate are the dumbest people alive

[queen osprey]

its what i do

cry and/or cope

[desert pilot]

tf2 is my hyperfixation

[trail citrus]

you are my hyperfixation

[queen osprey]

[desert pilot]

😳

in 3 days when i get paid im gonna buy the banana hat

mainly because its called the potssium bonnet

[queen osprey]

here

[void slate]

What am I witnessing here @desert pilot

[desert pilot]

dont even worry about it

[void slate]

Polish architecture

[languid bay]

HI3 concert 😳

[candid birch]

another day of obscurity

[queen osprey]

another day another dollar

[candid birch]

I don't have a job so... nope xD

[queen osprey]

shame

[candid birch]

well if this week goes well that should be taken care of relatively soon. got a meeting with state job people on tuesday

[queen osprey]

a government spy?

[candid birch]

pffft i wish. those dudes make bank. job finding assistance and counseling

[queen osprey]

lol

[candid birch]

what? whats funny?

[queen osprey]

government wagies are slaves like the rest of us

[candid birch]

dafuq do i care if i gets the moneys?

[queen osprey]

whats the point of a job then

[candid birch]

to feed corporate dragons and perpetuate a broken system

[queen osprey]

so..........?

[candid birch]

need money to afford shit bruh xD

[queen osprey]

so then the point of a job is to afford shit

[long tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-money-peanuts-explain-how-homer-gif-15536016

[candid birch]

yes that

[queen osprey]

ecks dee

holy

12900ks on special

do i yoink it

1k aud

[stark girder]

[= are you an intel guy

[void willow]

Nobody wants a job, what they really want is the business 🙂

[candid birch]

depends: how much of an upgrade will it be for you?

[queen osprey]

a fuckin huge one

8700k

[candid birch]

do it

but you'll also need a new mobo

[queen osprey]

yeah

and i want a maximus formula

which is likje 1k as well

xDDDDDDDD

[stark girder]

=] time to go amd then

[queen osprey]

ill see

what the ryzen 7000 is like

n shit

i dont want amd though

[stark girder]

D: why

[void willow]

I got that mobo..love it.. has integrated water cooling blocks

[exotic leaf]

is it nice to chew on

[queen osprey]

yeah i had the z370 formula

[candid birch]

now THATS excessive xD

[queen osprey]

or called the rog maximus x formula

[candid birch]

so is food

[queen osprey]

i know but i want custom loop again

[exotic leaf]

i don’t want food i want computer parts

[queen osprey]

i actually killed my maximus x formula because i wasnt watercooling it

i didnt have enough clearance on the top of my case to run it into my loop

[void willow]

oof

[queen osprey]

so i think the passive heatspreaders didnt do a good enough job

after 3-4 years

now i got a maximus xi code

[void willow]

The 12700k doesn't seem to be worth it to me. I think if I were you I would focus that money on a gpu or ram

[queen osprey]

i do like that companies are acknowledging how unstable ddr5 ram is at 4 dimms

and some new amd x670 boards only have 2 dimms

[void willow]

Not worth it to upgrade then... let others be the test subjects

[queen osprey]

yeah i wont be buying a gpu until i see what the 4080 ti is like

[void willow]

Kinda like when RTX 1st came out...

[queen osprey]

my 1080ti will survive

[candid birch]

but you can't eat computer parts

[queen osprey]

not with that attitude

[void willow]

RTX was GARBO until they fixed it lol

[queen osprey]

it hardly existed

[exotic leaf]

that’s what they want you to think

[candid birch]

le gasp

[queen osprey]

some funny shenanigans going on lately

my boss is makign me do some wack ass cases

[candid birch]

as wack as the carbon fiber case from evga?

[stark girder]

😏

[low oasis]

oof

[grizzled kettle]

l

[queen osprey]

built a tower 500

[void willow]

Wow 3070's are like $600 now

[queen osprey]

that was a pain in the ass to figure out

same with an inwin 309 gaming edition

such shit case design

then a gigabyte c700

[stark girder]

pat so salty about gigabyte

[queen osprey]

its not salt

its fax

[stark girder]

😹

[exotic leaf]

📠

[void willow]

I grabbed a giant Phanteks case... it's about the size of 2, 2 liter coke bottles tall

[candid birch]

dude you can get 3090s now for about 1k

[queen osprey]

yeah 3090ti is like 1.3k

in usd

[candid birch]

i should have waited for the market to rubber band instead of paying out the ass for mine >.<

[void willow]

Is it worth the extra $400? Price vs performance...

[candid birch]

i got my gpu during the cardpocalypse >.<

[stark girder]

a little bit more than what I paid for 2080ti

[queen osprey]

surely not the enthoo elite ...........

[candid birch]

if you're playing in 4k? yes. if not, no

[void willow]

The 3090 ranks 12 spots above the 3070 for performance... not worth it

[stark girder]

12spots

[void willow]

Hi @stark girder

[queen osprey]

but a 3090 shits on a 3070, who cares if there are 11 cards in between

[void willow]

The 3090 gets up to 377 frames and the 3070 get 224... better hope your monitor can get 220 minimum for a 3090 to be worth it as well

Your monitor will decide how well your gpu is utilized anyways

[stark girder]

3090 is barely 4k ready on high refresh monitors

[queen osprey]

240hz monitors are readily available

and increasingly more popular

[void willow]

So in order for a 3090 to be worth it, you would need a 4k 360 hz monitor lol

[queen osprey]

especially competitive fps games

[void willow]

If you aren't using a 4k 360hz monitor, what is the sense in having a 3090. You have all that power, but unable to use it

What I'm saying is.... match your gpu to the monitor you have or plan on getting

[queen osprey]

it makes sense

[void willow]

Other wise you basically have a NOS sticker with no tanks lol

[stark girder]

nah, if you play bad game, 3090 at 4k is just enough to consistently get 144

[void willow]

You don't want to base it off a small percentage of games.

[queen osprey]

tbh

most people buying 3090s

are building work stations

[void willow]

Those are outliers....

[queen osprey]

or rich and want to flex

not everyone is crazy enough to want a 3090 and have it underperform because they only have a 144hz monitor or something

[stark girder]

[void willow]

You can't focus on outliers when trying to get the best price vs performance. It's true some games run bad, but those are outliers. Let's hope in the future, people can code better XD

[void willow]

144hz is good enough for me too... I can't notice anything above tbh

[stark girder]

I played cyberpunk 2077 with rtx on a 1080 monitor at the time and 2080ti was just enough for 60fps

[queen osprey]

ive never tried higher than 144

but id have to change my room layout to accommodate 240

or my set up

[void willow]

Everyone had problems with that game, that's why I didn't get it lol

If the game is a buggy mess on launch, I won't be back

[stark girder]

[bitter heath]

I was getting 90 on mostly high settings with a 1650 at launch

so I dunno how you got so shafted

[void willow]

Too much time will have passed in-between for me to remember or care about a game that came out 2 years ago and is finally fixed

[stark girder]

ray tracing, bro

[queen osprey]

no way a 1650 pulls 90 on high

that card belongs in the gutter

tf

[stark girder]

pat has strong opinion against 1650

[queen osprey]

it has had like 5 or so major updates with bug fixes, each 2g +

im just against low end cards in general

[stark girder]

understandable

[void willow]

I don't even know how cyber punk is experience wise... seen what a mess it was and didn't get it

[queen osprey]

i think its fun at face value

if you dont pay for the game 😉

[void willow]

That's how I decide my game purchases... Is it a buggy mess at launch?

Needless to say, I don't have a lot of games anymore lol

... games have been too buggy

[queen osprey]

bugs are just hidden features

[void willow]

They need to beta test games for people who don't care about bugs and then reset the whole game and send it out when it's finished

[bitter heath]

cyberpunk may have been a buggy mess at launch but there were barely any actual bugs that impeded you playing it

most were just super funny shit to make the game even more fun

[stark girder]

I'm just sad we won't get to visit crystal palace

[queen osprey]

true

but some shit made no sense

like cops spawning wherever you are

no matter where you are

and the graphics were pretty dog

[void willow]

Just don't like bugs. I wasn't raised in a time when games had bugs, so mostly my reason

[queen osprey]

it was definitely unfinished and unpolished

classic darwins theory

adapt and evolve or die

adapt and accept bugs

or hate new titles and miss out on experiences

[bitter heath]

you cant tell me this isnt something that'd have you enjoying the game more

[void willow]

I'm actually about to try to make my own game lol

[queen osprey]

good luck with that

[stark girder]

😏 on the bright side, bad game is on its way to cyberpunk

[void willow]

Perfectionist at heart... don't like seeing it lol

[bitter heath]

guess you'll never enjoy a game again

[queen osprey]

gonna be damn hard finding a game in this day and age without bugs

[void willow]

Can't be buggier than what's released and then fixed 2 years later XD

[queen osprey]

well, at least ur confident

[void willow]

But I'm a novice you would expect that from me... why expect it from a multi-million dollar company with thousands of people on staff

I can accept bugs if like 10 people made a game

[bitter heath]

even so, those thousands of people on staff are assigned different roles

[queen osprey]

cutting them some slack, the scope of the game is enormous

if there werent bugs

id be pretty fuckin surprised

[void willow]

I seen people online, remake COD games with less bugs in a day

[stark girder]

💀I ship post on bungo a lot here, but if you worked on any software project, you'll understand why

[void willow]

also fixed the bad spawns

[bitter heath]

I feel like you have zero idea of how anything to do with game development works

cant just click a button and fix bugs

[void willow]

And you are entitled to feel that way

[queen osprey]

fix one bug create 50 more

classic

[void willow]

coding 101

[stark girder]

I don't know their code coverage, but judging from the mess, it can't be more than 50%

[void willow]

I made bots for discord... I know.... fix one thing the rest breaks

[stark girder]

making automated testing takes a lot of smarts

[void willow]

just one number or letter missing, the whole code is broken

[bitter heath]

lets also not forget how cyberpunk was rushed out by investors and the fans harassing devs

[stark girder]

that's missing regression tests

[void willow]

Unreal engine takes the beginners curve away a bit

[stark girder]

if they had unit and regression tests, it wouldn'd be like this

as an online service, integration tests too

[queen osprey]

https://i.imgur.com/WX0jvPt.png

[stark girder]

code coverage is a pride thing among programmers. like skill issue

[queen osprey]

[wind axle]

honestly the bugs made cyberpunk great for me

[void willow]

This is why I don't promote buggy games... Do you think investors would rush a game if they knew people would be on them about quality and bugs?

[wind axle]

yes

[queen osprey]

yes

[bitter heath]

yes

[queen osprey]

because not doing so = lose money

[wind axle]

theyd get the money then dip

[queen osprey]

and to investors money is more worth than a companys reputation

[bitter heath]

they literally do not give a shit about how buggy the game is, thats the whole point

[void willow]

You guys are lost on what I mean... let me try to rephrase it

[queen osprey]

i get it

public hound devs about bugs

and shit game

[wind axle]

is this not peak gameplay

[queen osprey]

but the investors DONT CARE

they just want their promised returns

not like cyberpunk makes extra money thru microtransactions or dlc

[wind axle]

i should replay cyberpunk

[queen osprey]

i never finished it

got pretty close i think

but thats how every game i play goes

[wind axle]

it unironically had some pretty good writing

[void willow]

If 100% of gamers refused to buy a buggy game, then investors would be forced to release a quality game, because 100% of people not buying your game = zero return

[queen osprey]

maybe in an ideal society lol

maybe if we all throw rubbish into a trash can

[wind axle]

except that doesnt work when the game is hyped to hell and most of the profit comes in hours after launch

[queen osprey]

thats hella wishful thinking

[drifting ivy]

Great game

[void willow]

Exactly... most people would rather deffend the bugs vs fight for a better quality of game

[wind axle]

exactly

[queen osprey]

but the community didnt do that

they destroyed the game in reviews

and refunded

like crazy

[void willow]

The gaming community ruined gaming imo. If they weren't so quick to settle for less then game companies wouldn't opt to give us less

[queen osprey]

i think the onus is on the devs

but yea

people who preorder

can fuck right off

[stark girder]

💀

[queen osprey]

make the decision after the games out

i agree on that point

greed runs the industry

not innovation or a pursuit to be better

[void willow]

If Mc Donald's sold feces on a bun and most people said adapt... people would be eating Mc Fece's Burgers lol

[queen osprey]

🤔

[void willow]

I don't want a MC Fece's just like I don't want bugs

I like quality... always have

Too many people in the echo chamber need to get out and re-think what companies are actually doing

[queen osprey]

im just grounded to reality

[bitter heath]

quality is never going to be something you find anymore, so you literally will never enjoy gaming again.

[queen osprey]

everyone wants better

but are we going to get it

probably not

[void willow]

This is the attitude that isn't helping gaming

Expect quality from everything you buy... that is how you get the best of the best 100% of the time

[bitter heath]

or

[queen osprey]

more reason to never buy gigabyte

[bitter heath]

I could just simply accept that I do not care

[void willow]

What if you went up in a plane and the quality of his training was just not that great... do you trust him to fly 1000 passengers safely or do you want a quality flight?

[queen osprey]

lol

[void willow]

Quality needs to be in everything. Stop accepting people's half ashed work

[bitter heath]

the fuck

[queen osprey]

not the strongest analogy

[stark girder]

I think bungo found the perfect minimum amount of testing to maximize profit

[bitter heath]

I dont think they've given a single good analogy so far

[queen osprey]

[void willow]

So you don't care if your pilot has minimal training and can't give you the best quality flight?

[queen osprey]

what cna ya do

how do you vet your pilot before your flight

[void willow]

We are talking about quality

quality in everything, not just games

[stark girder]

sneaky is just wishing at this point

[void willow]

so if your head is stuck in "gaming analogies" you will be lost

[queen osprey]

no but

when you buy a plane ticket

[bitter heath]

seeing as how I've had the opportunity to get a pilots license, and know how extensive the testing and training is for it I will never not trust a pilot

[queen osprey]

you arent ever thinking about if the pilot is shit

[bitter heath]

exactly

[queen osprey]

thats never a concern

if you had any doubts

[void willow]

OK different analogy

[queen osprey]

youd be smart and not take the fuckin flight

because thats your life

[void willow]

You go to Mc Donalds and they give you chicken sandwich, but you asked for a Burger... they keep doing it everyday but you keep coming back to only keep getting a chicken sandwich.

Why would you go to that Mc Donalds if they can never get the order right?

[bitter heath]

I would check my order before leaving, as I always do, then actively seek out somebody within the store (that I havent left) to fix said problem

[queen osprey]

tbh i never check my order

i probably should huh

[bitter heath]

because I use the thinking organ that every single human being has

[void willow]

No matter how many times you check it... it's always a chicken sandwich... even when you send it back

Bad quality workers

[bitter heath]

I could then seek financial compensation from them, which literally only benefits me

I worked fast food

[queen osprey]

same

fistbump

[bitter heath]

is that really fist bumpable

[void willow]

I don't know why you keep trying to find loopholes out of an analgy vs choosing to try to understand

[queen osprey]

?

[bitter heath]

I'm just pointing out that the analogies are literally impossibilities

[queen osprey]

i loved my kfc job

not really

[bitter heath]

ah

[queen osprey]

but it was dank

[bitter heath]

maccas here

[queen osprey]

they gave me a holiday to qld

how can i be mad

[void willow]

I can tell I'm talking to people under 24

[queen osprey]

i wish lmfao

[void willow]

I'm hoping

[stark girder]

🤨 too many bad takes by sneaky. I'll just say it's about what's acceptable in different cases

[void willow]

Cause if young adults are presenting themselves like THIS... we are in trouble

[bitter heath]

lmao wtf

[queen osprey]

its a mood

[stark girder]

💀 real life is about compromises

[void willow]

You argue that quality isn't something we should get as if you aren't good enough to have nice things

[bitter heath]

why should we have everything be absolutely perfect for us 24/7

[void willow]

Fine by me... if you don't deserve quality and fine things that's on you. I don't like garbage

Garbage for you, fine things for me 🙂

[bitter heath]

we dont all have sunshine coming out of our asses, I'm more than happy to compromise if it means I'm not constantly hating everything to do with my life

[void willow]

It's not sunshine, It's an expectation of something. When the expectation does meet your standards you put your foot down

You see, I think for myself and I don't care if people like me or hate me.

This entire server could hate me and it wouldn't do a thing to my mentallity

[bitter heath]

you should ask your hairdresser to give you an inverted bob next time you see them

[void willow]

You know, Insults are a sign of immaturity and a lack of intelligence. I simply stated what should be obvious

[bitter heath]

I never insulted you, I simply made a suggestion

[void willow]

What is this supposed to convey

[queen osprey]

unrealistic demands

probably

[void willow]

He's a big boy... let him speak

[bitter heath]

I'm sure you can figure it out

[queen osprey]

https://twitter.com/assassinscreed/status/1563194586562179072

Assassin's Creed (@assassinscreed)

We work in the dark to serve the light. #AC15

Likes

36089

Retweets

2629

Twitter · Aug 26, 2022, 4:00 PM

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[void willow]

That's what I thought, too scared even behind your keyboard, you ain't worth it

[queen osprey]

another AAA title that will inevitably have bugs

[bitter heath]

is that not ezio?

[queen osprey]

it indeed is

[bitter heath]

I'm not scared, it's just a pretty obvious thing to figure out

ah, seems like it's an anniversary thing then

[void willow]

I want you to say it

[queen osprey]

meaningless off topic fight #215013613

being currently recorded

[void willow]

Though I have not insulted anyone and just spit a few facts, it'll be me that gets in trouble

[queen osprey]

no ones getting in trouble

its all just banter

[void willow]

I always get in trouble lol

I can get fired for a fact and that's no lie

[bitter heath]

yo watch this cool funny bug in a video game

[queen osprey]

another game i need to finish...

[void willow]

Seeing them don't bother me... it's like watching a movie with gore in it...

[bitter heath]

I just wished they were doing full sized dlc for it

[void willow]

do i like gore in rl? Nope I'll pass out... movies, it's different

[bitter heath]

the borderlands 2 dlc were all (mostly) masterpieces

and they threw it all away after that

[queen osprey]

yeah its called suspension of disbelief

its also why you can watch a movie with wizards

and enjoy it

instead of saying

this movie is shit, magic isnt real

[bitter heath]

magic isnt real? you must be lying!

[void willow]

This is what I'm talking about... you loved this and then it was ruined

I want you to have that same feeling NOW with a new Borderlands

[bitter heath]

but I've accepted reality since pre sequel

they lost their touch literally right after the tiny tina dlc

[void willow]

You settled, I don't want to do that. I want my games, your games, everyone's games to be better, be how they were in the sense of being good

[queen osprey]

okay

lets entertain it

why not

how would you solve the issue

what are the steps that you would take

[void willow]

Right here, just getting gamers talking about it, others make videos and such too

Some just kinda accepted how publishers treat us and some haven't

[queen osprey]

id go out on a limb and say most have

[void willow]

We need to just not buy pre-orders and bad games in general

If most did that, publishers would lose money

They would eventually figure out what the problem is and fix it

Like going on a strike so to speak, they start making money when they do what they promise

[queen osprey]

lol

thats 1000% a dream

[bitter heath]

you would need to organize this with billions of people

[void willow]

Well if people just talk to each other and started really figuring out what publishers are doing, they won't need to get together so much... it's just an act of thinking to yourself... Is this a good game?

I'm not sure what happened, but at some point, gamers started not caring about the quality

[bitter heath]

if I can play a game with friends, and enjoy the experience I qualify it as a good game

[queen osprey]

yeah i reckon if i get 2hrs/dollar value

[bitter heath]

that is what my passion for gaming is

[queen osprey]

i got my moneys worth

bugs or not

[void willow]

That's huge too...

I think maybe the passionate gamers got over powered by the masses maybe

[bitter heath]

I literally have a combined total of like 3k hours on ark survival evolved which is one of the buggiest games out there and still think it's a good game purely for the friend factor

[queen osprey]

sneaky if you do end up making a game

that becomes popular

and players find bugs in it

would you prioritise fixing them

[void willow]

But games that have blown you away... can we even name 5 that were mind blowing

[queen osprey]

even if the bugs were game enhancing

for maybe speedrunning

[void willow]

100%

If I seen people were using for something fun, I would be open to including them in a mode

[bitter heath]

fun

[void willow]

Like make an entire new mode for the speed run

[queen osprey]

that would feel disingenuous

im no speedrunner but finding tech/bugs to abuse is for sure one of their greatest joys

creating a new mode would make it feel intentional

rather than a speedrunner being crafty

[void willow]

How so? If people like it, I include it in a mode, it's still there to play with

[void willow]

I asked after everything else lol ... I can see that

But I would fix every bug right away in the game if there were any... I'm pretty overly analytical, so any bugs in game wouldn't help you in any way anyhow

[queen osprey]

its all about balance to me

[bitter heath]

if it's a glitchless game it'll just feel like the same experience between every person that plays it

[void willow]

I'm about balance too.... that's why I had to leave density pvp

[void willow]

Tell that to the 8.4 million people who bought Halo 2 over the 1.2 mill who bought density

[queen osprey]

surely more than 1.2 own destiny

nah thats impossible

theres probably 1.2m hackers who've had to buy multiple copies because theyve been hacked

imo

[void willow]

Games are dying bro

[bitter heath]

I literally havent even left the google page

[void willow]

numbers don't lie

They getting bad and the only ones left are passionate gamers and the ones who don't care

The hardcore gamers are completely gone

[bitter heath]

did you even read the screenshot

[void willow]

Yeah, I have the same one

we gotta see concurrent

[bitter heath]

then you realise that the numbers you listed were wrong.. right?

[queen osprey]

wdym concurrent

the game is f2p

[bitter heath]

damn I cant even read the message cause I disabled message logger

[queen osprey]

er

[void willow]

How many players does D have 2022?
With millions of daily active users, D is the second most popular MMO in 2022. The D active player count is between 800,000 and 1.2 million players across all devices in August 2022.

[queen osprey]

How many players does Density 2 have 2022?
With millions of daily active users, Density 2 is the second most popular MMO in 2022. The Density 2 active player count is between 800,000 and 1.2 million players across all devices in August 2022.

[void willow]

so 1.2 million

[queen osprey]

so 1.2m concurrent players monthly

thats not bad i reckon

[bitter heath]

give me the numbers on halo 2 monthly

[void willow]

Halo 2 had 8.4 million

[queen osprey]

at its peak?

i think we need to compare 2 identical genres together

like destiny v division

or halo v cod

yknow

wow vs ff14

that stuff

not wow vs cod

[void willow]

Both made by Bungie

Same engine even

[bitter heath]

even then, he's literally listing off the amount of copies sold

[queen osprey]

but not the same bungie

the bungie that made halo 2 mostly moved to 343i

[void willow]

That Bungie don't exist anywhere anymore

[queen osprey]

so.....?

it doesnt feel like a fair comparison

[bitter heath]

it isnt a fair comparison at all

[void willow]

Top game of 2000 vs top game of 2020

[bitter heath]

because he's comparing concurrent deshitty players to the amount of copies halo 2 sold

[void willow]

I'm comparing top games for their time

[bitter heath]

which deshitty also blows it out of the water with anyways

[queen osprey]

https://i.imgur.com/v88VM4i.png

[stark girder]

😏 you 3 make a great team

[queen osprey]

then the other problem is

[bitter heath]

aww dont make me blush

[queen osprey]

halo 2 ONLY released on xbox

whereas destiny released on everything

[stark girder]

3 colors too

[queen osprey]

that also cant be fair

[void willow]

Well Halo 2 was on PC as well

[queen osprey]

oh

true

[void willow]

Not many remember it... I think it was vista or something

[queen osprey]

ye

i remember i had it

holy

during an era where pc gamign was still smallscale

compared to console sales

[void willow]

Nostalgia hit lol

[bitter heath]

was that not like

3 years later though

[queen osprey]

it was a demo

[bitter heath]

"may 22 2007"

[void willow]

Games were just good in that era

[bitter heath]

when halo 2 released in November of 2004

[queen osprey]

the bar was lower

lmao

[void willow]

True, but some were better... hence all the remakes now

I think the new Spiderman game is from 2015 lol

almost an 8 year old game

MCC has a 20 year old game XD

[bitter heath]

the 2018 spiderman game?

[void willow]

is it 18?

[bitter heath]

mhm

[void willow]

Thought it was 15

[bitter heath]

nope

and I didnt even have to google that to know it

[queen osprey]

nerd

[bitter heath]

insult me more it's my guilty pleasure

[queen osprey]

lmfao

[void willow]

Nah that was one of his babies, he knew XD

[bitter heath]

I never played it

[queen osprey]

its a good game

i more or less bought a ps4 pro to play it

• god of war

[void willow]

Good games

I gotta take off...nice chatting.

[queen osprey]

?

[bitter heath]

I gotta get more cat memes

[void willow]

@bitter heath btw, sounds like we got off on a wrong start

later guys

[queen osprey]

i have a lot of shit cat memes

but not as shit as yours

[bitter heath]

that was one of mine

[queen osprey]

probably

[bitter heath]

I stole this one from here pretty sure

[bitter heath]

does this count as a cat one

[bitter heath]

not a cat

[queen osprey]

haram

[bitter heath]

lmao

[queen osprey]

(this one i got from eddietheyeti although he probably stole it too)

[exotic leaf]

so many cats

[bitter heath]

I really have to sort my shit

[bitter heath]

this one isnt cats but I think I ran out of ones that arent being posted by pat anyways

[queen osprey]

yeah im out

too

[bitter heath]

I also have this video for whatever reason

[bitter heath]

I've gone so deep into my folder that I'm finding shit like this

[queen osprey]

the fuckin archives

[bitter heath]

I love that one

[void slate]

'Hehehehe' - Peter Griffin @exotic leaf

[queen osprey]

its bedge time

[bitter heath]

I slept all afternoon

still mad that my kindle is completely fucked cause I was midway through a book

[queen osprey]

it iiiiiiiiiiis what it isssssssssssss

[void slate]

pat attack ❤️

[queen osprey]

name change soon

toimorrow

[exotic leaf]

the suspense

[hardy mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOAp2bYKB8

WARNING THIS GUY HASNT CLEANED SINCE 2005

[drifting ivy]

omfg my headset was on max volume

[void slate]

I will miss you

@exotic leaf Do you like veins?

[exotic leaf]

what the fuck

[clever geyser]

I got reported in a discord for posting a pic like that smh

[drifting ivy]

why are his veins in a special font

@exotic leaf Hey what you think of this music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-rXQALDv-4

Shit goes hard

[dawn moss]

Peds

[exotic leaf]

very sneaky

[dawn moss]

if i donate one cent can i send link

[mortal yarrow]

Is ramen a soup or a drink

[dawn moss]

noodle

[prisma anchor]

.

[dawn moss]

do you like oryx

[drifting ivy]

wrong chat

[void slate]

@exotic leaf I was inspired by this

[dawn moss]

look at his profile

[exotic leaf]

truly motivating

[mild remnant]

Anyone down to play shadowkeep?

Anyone down to play shadowkeep?
Dm me

[fickle sentinel]

Wrong chat big dog