#Ring Racers

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autumn trellis
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ill grab a video because its hard to tell with a still image

tribal sorrel
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should probably report that in the suggestions or bug report github

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esp if it applies to every single follower including vanilla

autumn trellis
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thats a good idea. but its really late and i would need to figure out how to create github reports

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so @autumn trellis reminder to report this when i wake up

ripe lance
autumn trellis
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you love to see it

wraith trellis
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today im gonna stop being a fraud and work on this man

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idk how to really structure the layers when i have parts that overlap his head

tough bluff
ripe lance
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i'm getting rid of the tripwire in eight beat btw

wraith trellis
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which one

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the one that gives you the bubble shield?

ripe lance
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i sure wonder how i'm going to get there now

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
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not like there's a pogo spring nearby

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holy shit

tribal sorrel
autumn trellis
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it looks so nice !! i really liked the first post of that design yesterday
do you think youll keep the same voice clips or take from different aerith lines

tribal sorrel
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id prob use the same voices

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im not sure if i like her with the dress on or off

ripe lance
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right is simpler but also not how female sonic characters are designed

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your call I guess

tribal sorrel
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yea thats the rub

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different kinds of sonic fans are giving me different opinions

wraith trellis
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the backgrounds are gaslighting me into thinking shes shaded differently for each one

tribal sorrel
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oh her arm on the left is more correct than the other

autumn trellis
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i like the added pink in the color scheme the dress provides

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honestly right reads as "more in line with sonic designs" to me but i prefer left anyway

ripe lance
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it's funny because it isn't

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like yea it's aerith designed as a male character

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who are the ones you think of the most

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sorry girls

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i don't really have a stance on that debate or whatever

autumn trellis
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i guess it kind of reminds me of sally even though its been ages since i read archie and i was never That into it. certainly not enough that id specifically cite sally as a nostalgia point

ripe lance
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other than just me wanting what's more correct

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because i'm lame

autumn trellis
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my main archie sonic nostalgia is you're coming in counter clockwise... that's unwise because i'm insane

ripe lance
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the female sonic character that's bare naked

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barring a jacket

tribal sorrel
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yea thats the problem

autumn trellis
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hmm. i do now see that no-dress-aerith has her legs shaded towards pink anyways so its not like the dressless version is missing out as much

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i still think i prefer left but its very close

wraith trellis
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well i think like

autumn trellis
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i do also wish you could see her tail given that she's a dog but maybe that would be awkward if it was just off to the side

wraith trellis
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do yo uwant pink to be visible on other color palettes

autumn trellis
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well she'd presumably maintain the bow either way

tribal sorrel
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the heart shape for the chest patch suggests the dress design the problem is that women in sonic are fully clothed now

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classic sally (which is likely the design RR would use if she were in base) has the same outfit, boots gloves and a vest

autumn trellis
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the two main things in my head are "in favor of dress: outfit design is fun" and "opposed to dress: having female sonic characters not mandated to have clothes feels like. less restrictive"

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
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new clash?

wraith trellis
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that yellow pink color looks really good on mario

autumn trellis
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i like that litmus test the hedgehog always has to be in palette showcases

tribal sorrel
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is this a new clash

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im p sure i havent changed it

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its been like this in-game

wraith trellis
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who the fuck is litmus test the hedgehog

autumn trellis
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who do you think???

wraith trellis
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shadow??

autumn trellis
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yes obviously

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hes like one of two characters to basically be two toned in base game. and the other is azusa

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
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hi cloud

wraith trellis
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seeing someone play aerith in cgb racers

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its like mits in the server wth me

ripe lance
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is cgb the server that removes hitstop

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no i think not

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but i'm sure it gets rid of item boxes disappearing for a moment

wraith trellis
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yeah it does

ripe lance
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mushroom peaks in ring racers

wraith trellis
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it was in srb2k

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i think i played it literally only once

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do you mena like

ripe lance
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it would work better in ring racers since trick panels exist

wraith trellis
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a mushroom peaks remake to make the track playable or like

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full on jank mushroom peaks

ripe lance
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shrug

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if i were the one making it i would strive to make it as enjoyable as any base game map

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you do have more air control in ring racers than you do in mkwii

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ironically

tribal sorrel
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@wraith trellis i have a new assortment of orpheus voice clips

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which should i change

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i kind of like the idea of using different attack sfx and then moving two years seventeen days to a lose quote

wraith trellis
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i like "GOOD DAY!" better as a slow

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i think you could have two voice clips for boost and attack and just play the hanna barbera sound effects with them

tribal sorrel
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playing btw

ripe lance
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damn okay

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i was problem solving my track but alright

autumn trellis
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i got home not long ago so i guess i could hop in for a little

wraith trellis
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what do you guys think of this horn

autumn trellis
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i dont recognize it but i always support four second song snippets

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because that means i get to get away with more song snippets

wraith trellis
# autumn trellis i dont recognize it but i always support four second song snippets

this video is just a joke

i do not own the music or the footage used in the video , all credit goes to its respective creators and owners ( Hyperjumper is the original unloader of this edit. His channel was terminated and this video serves as a reupload. )

#wojak #tatu #spongebob

โ–ถ Play video
autumn trellis
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i want to ask how i should crop one of my horn ideas i just need a second to download it

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should i use the whole sentence or crop it to start later

wraith trellis
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thats fine

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im about to use one thast basicallty that long

autumn trellis
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i mean i moreso meant "does the leadup make it less funny" by nature of being less spammable

wraith trellis
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well its less spammable but that doesnt devalue it

autumn trellis
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true

wraith trellis
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it just maens you need better comedic timing

autumn trellis
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god that reminds me

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i so wish we had separate horn systems. like splatoon

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if you're using a controller with a joystick and d-pad, one of the means of directional input goes unused

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the world would be perfect if you could assign different horns to different directions

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i have a lot of horns that are only funny if used when winning/losing an interaction. so you kind of have to choose how confident you feel going into the race

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anyway

wraith trellis
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new horns dropped

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some of them have cryptic names

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which are probably not funny unless you know what theyre from

autumn trellis
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smg when im done my horns should i make it separate or should i incorporate it into yours like we did in srb2k

wraith trellis
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uhhh

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itd probably be easier if we had it seperate because i keep adding new shit every other day anyways

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but i do like the idea of having it in one file

autumn trellis
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well presumably i would just stick all of mine in a folder and you dont have to touch it

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so it doesnt matter if you keep adding new stuff

ripe lance
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wow ok i think i'm done with the cool cool mountain slide

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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WAIIT

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PULL THE BRAKES

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i need to add one more horn

autumn trellis
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i mean its not like you need to rush to meet a deadline right After we had a session

wraith trellis
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there we go

wraith trellis
wraith trellis
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are you gonna do the tall tall mountain one now

autumn trellis
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the maddening thing about this, smg, is that you dont add the new ones at the top or bottom

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so id have to search the whole list to find the new ones

wraith trellis
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no

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i add the new ones at the bottom

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or at least like

autumn trellis
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no you dont

wraith trellis
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in the lua file i do

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good luck finding it in the actual file list

autumn trellis
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the baby fucking dies has always been at the bott- oh that makes senses

wraith trellis
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i do admittedly just chuck all my new sound files in the slade document

autumn trellis
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also: oh thats whats being sad

wraith trellis
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and then actually sort them by age in the lua file

autumn trellis
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i only ever heard THISBAWWABABOSS

autumn trellis
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divine bolt of lightning striking smgs mind to inspire him to add the nostalgia critic theme

wraith trellis
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yes

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exactly

autumn trellis
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WHAT IS THIS CLIP

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ive heard loot get! somewhere out there before but i had no idea what it was from

autumn trellis
ripe lance
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also perhaps obviously i still haven't done any sort of gameplay design for the tunnel

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currently there's not even a collisionless wall

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that's a discussion to be had

wraith trellis
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wdym

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like the shortcut tunnel or the one at the end

ripe lance
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shortcut tunnel

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because it's meant to be secret and all

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obviously covering the shortcut with a wall won't fly at all

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especially if it's gated by a tripwire

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which it has to be

wraith trellis
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put the wall in front of the tripwire

ripe lance
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unless i use the steel crates from sonic adventure 2 instead i guess

wraith trellis
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how do the steel crates work

ripe lance
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cuz you enter the wall without thinking there's a tripwire

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and there's a tripwire

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and you bounce back

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anyway steel crates are walls that you can break with a boost

wraith trellis
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oh

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that explains why i suck at city escape

ripe lance
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anyway we'll get there when we get there which is next session

wraith trellis
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i do think that like

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everyone knows about that short cut anyway

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so i feel like it might be pointless to hide it

autumn trellis
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i think your fears of "it being too powerful" would be exacerbated even further if it was Also a knowledge check. even if its a knowledge check most people will pass

autumn trellis
autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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who is this

autumn trellis
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ruri and omoikane from martian successor nadesico

wraith trellis
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this expression is really funny

autumn trellis
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(the [OK] is a sentient computer that speaks in popups. so hitconfirm and hurt are gonna be a bunch of popups while the girl sits still as a stone)

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i realized after a while of planning this that this is really similar to mits follower of the guy that goes cloud. nadesico has a lot of "video call squares, but they physically exist and you can push them around and stuff" and i think it's great

wraith trellis
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chadley

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you know

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i forgot chadley was a character completely while playing ff7

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i didnty know hes straight up just

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remake exclusive

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hes like the gumbly of ff7

ripe lance
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chadley will remember that

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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this is awesome

autumn trellis
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i really want to just keep making followers but i probably should commit to a racer soon because i cant upload my pack until i have one

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i dont want to do the awkward "please move me to multicategory now" thing Again

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i also have an insanely good idea for a racer follower combo but im not sure its like. ethical

wraith trellis
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what is it

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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i dont get it why isnt it ethical

autumn trellis
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well because this is an early 70s anime making a militaristic antagonist in the Way That They Sometimes Do

wraith trellis
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so a nazi

autumn trellis
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yes

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we made him a soldier from an old gundam army in our mecha rp but i cant exactly put that loredrop into a kart racer

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and it makes me sad because i know having the floating head as a follower would be SO sick

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right now i think i cant do him on his own - i Might be okay with it if i pair him up with the other second in command antagonist from his show. but then i need to do Two complicated robots on one kart

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or i could have his voicelines be an extended monologue about our robot rp where he's really into gossip about ancient gundam factions

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why do i keep making the most insane nightmare templates

wraith trellis
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this is a good horn idea

autumn trellis
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true

autumn trellis
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but it sure doesnt FEEL efficient

autumn trellis
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why do we not have triplets born as a horn

wraith trellis
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you have the power to make it

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i'll let you merge you r hornpack with mine but we need to come up with a good name

autumn trellis
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how about smg blissful horns to ease you to sleep + koopa's alarm clock

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(you could also just keep your name entirely. i dont mind)

wraith trellis
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thats kind of awesome actually

wraith trellis
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a4 is gonna suck so bad

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does anyone now how to make the hunched over pose for the 3/4 back pose look better

wraith trellis
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is there a way to click on part of a layer to instantly start using that layer in aseprite

autumn trellis
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what do you mean

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like, have your layer automatically change to the top layer that has something on the place you clicked?

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just hold crtl and click

wraith trellis
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for me it says "nothing to move" when i do that

autumn trellis
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hmm?

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is it locked, maybe?

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if you hold crtl, click, and Hold move, then it drags that layer around

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so maybe if you're not allowed to move it then it also disallows the layer jumping

wraith trellis
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theyre not locked i dont think

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is there even a name for the action in aseprite

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im trying to see if i can change it in the settings

autumn trellis
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psycho haro just refuses to go into followermaker for some reason

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i wish the thing that pops up to say what it's doing would stay on screen

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so that i could figure out what specifically my problem is

ripe lance
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you can if you open followermaker using cmd

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i can also check it for you of course

autumn trellis
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its doing the thing where it creates a pk3 of 1kb and is unopenable

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which ive usually found means its trying to call coordinates that dont exist on the sprite

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but that seems not to be the case here because i tried it with a much bigger image and it still didnt take

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i noticed that B5 somehow vanished off of the thing. so i readded it and it still doesnt work so thats not it

ripe lance
autumn trellis
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ah.

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that did it ty

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i had to fix a few other things as well but that was why it wouldnt even open

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also smg ive been holding off on asking this but since you're coming up on that point + since i remembered that i actually like jojos last night
is star platinum coming back

wraith trellis
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as a follower

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hes perfect for the format

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im prob gonna make a little chibi star platinum

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i wanna coordinate it with the guy making josuke so theres a crazy diamond and star platinum follower

autumn trellis
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oh of course idk why i didnt think of that

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that would allow you to recolor both separately too

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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live reaction

autumn trellis
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ill do the lua version when i have my first racer done

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i did not make ruri smaller i just increased her distance a little. if you're choosing her you know what you're getting into

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also i had to skim the whole fucking show to get a clean clip of her saying bakabaka even though its her catchphrase

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theres a youtube video with every single instance but its the spanish dub lmao

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@ mit do you have a custom template for a flickering lookback like juri and orpheus have?

wraith trellis
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WTF????

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THE RNG RACERS GUY???

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JUST IN MY SERVER??

ripe lance
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i posted it earlier

tribal sorrel
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is this the fixed one

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that i amde

ripe lance
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no

autumn trellis
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awesome thanks

tough bluff
ripe lance
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added killplanes to cool cool mountain slide

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ready for the next session

ripe lance
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also an adventure mode is just like. insane. like are you sure you can do this lol

dusty python
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I remember the Mario Kart tracks in SRB2Kart. Any chance we'll get some as mods in Ring Racers?

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I mean... Super's working on some SM64 slides as tracks

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But I'm also curious about stuff like Sky Garden and GBA Rainbow Road

ripe lance
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gba rainbow road is already done

autumn trellis
tough bluff
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Of course I can

autumn trellis
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the curse strikes again

ripe lance
autumn trellis
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oh my god i tried to cheat and set timescale to half to extend the elevator ride but the replay called my ruse LMAO

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i dont know how thats even possible but its hilarious given the context

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
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ramona...

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ramona with the bi palette

tribal sorrel
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innovating with the head turn spinout

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havent seen anyone do that yet

ripe lance
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kimberly is here

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and the red guy from bomb rush

wraith trellis
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@autumn trellis hows your horn pack doing rn

autumn trellis
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i keep putting it off because ive only run some of them through the limiter yet which means i have to check them all

wraith trellis
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wdym run through the limiter

autumn trellis
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which is super obnoxious because audacity insits on opening a new instance for every file and then going ARE YOU SURE? for each one when you close it

wraith trellis
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is that what youre supposed to do to make everything sound like normal volume

autumn trellis
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yes

wraith trellis
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ive just been making everything like 10 decibels louder LOL

autumn trellis
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in its temporary not-yet-multi form

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i guess if im done with mazinger z for today i may as well just go do the horns

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im so unconfident in drawing the first body that all the other angles will take cues from

wraith trellis
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what exactly is the process for running it through the limiter

autumn trellis
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and then these settings

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you have one billion horns so idk if its worth running All of them through it. but if any are particularly quiet this is how you fix it

wraith trellis
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okay

autumn trellis
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i hate audacity

tribal sorrel
wraith trellis
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SHE BLEW OUT THE COLOR FROM HER HAIR

ripe lance
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this is really fucking good

autumn trellis
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incredible

ripe lance
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the fact the back of her thumb has a line makes it kinda look like a thumbnail

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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hype

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should i just take all the stuff from here and force it into the sounds folder

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and put the stuff from the lua file at the end

autumn trellis
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put it in its own folder

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so that you dont get ours mixed up

wraith trellis
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both the lua and sound files?

autumn trellis
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oh uh. maybe just put a line break in the lua files

wraith trellis
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alright

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thats what i assumed

autumn trellis
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im pretty sure a line break wont cause problems. and if it does just take it back out

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just in case you wanted to separate them again for any reason. idk why you would, but id suggest it out of courtesy

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wait hang on its broken

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one of them is missing ??

wraith trellis
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is one of the file namse too long

autumn trellis
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i'm so stupid

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no its.

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just go change GLDMHR into GLDHMR

wraith trellis
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in the uhh

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lua file right

autumn trellis
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no

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other one

wraith trellis
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oh change the name of the file itself

autumn trellis
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its supposed to be short for hammer but i bungled it

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yea

wraith trellis
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heres what it looks like

autumn trellis
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ANOTHER one is broken god dammit im really sorry let me find it

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i. okay maybe just let me fix the whole thing i dont want to keep asking you to clean up my mistakes

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ooooone minute

tribal sorrel
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ramona is done

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she is in the game

wraith trellis
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awesome

autumn trellis
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also, applause

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NO IT WONT DO IT FOR REAL IM A CLOWN FOOL

wraith trellis
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what

autumn trellis
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NOW itll do it for real

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i really shouldve done the check Before i posted it but i didnt want to keep you waiting

wraith trellis
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no its cool

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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og my god

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i kept getting errors because i forgot a comma

autumn trellis
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aint that the truth

wraith trellis
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longest file name known to man

autumn trellis
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you havent seen my files

ripe lance
wraith trellis
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How many sound files are in that drum

ripe lance
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it's every single base game follower horn

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i just load them off of the game

wraith trellis
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That's interesting

ripe lance
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next time we play get this add-on pack

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for the crazy taxi arrow follower

tribal sorrel
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trying to decide if i like this better

autumn trellis
autumn trellis
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okay this is driving me crazy why are the templates 128x128 if everything is of odd width

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you just have to Know that the template will offset everything facing one side by one pixel, i guess??

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every time i try to look at my full turnaround i have to remember to adjust everything by one because the template hasnt done its thing yet

tribal sorrel
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templates are 96x96

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doesnt change anything but yea

autumn trellis
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oh right

tribal sorrel
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this was the case in srb2kart as well @ odd number

autumn trellis
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every time i flatten all my layers so that its easy for me to move the 3 new frames over by one. and i feel like im playing with fire every time even though i know i could undo even if i accidentally saved

ripe lance
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josuke is out

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and okuyasu

wraith trellis
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the new css is awesome ebcause i can make characers no one would gaf about and not worry about my pack not getting downloaded for it

tribal sorrel
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people will still beef

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for no reason

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bc ur literally right

wraith trellis
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after ao oni im considering making guy

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during the srb2k days i would be worried that people wouldnt download a pack with him in it because who cares

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but now its not an issue

ripe lance
wraith trellis
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the transition is a litle stark

ripe lance
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that's more or less what I envisioned for it

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this is a gimmick color

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in terms of my color pack the well for it is already dry because all the other good color ideas I can come up with have already been done

autumn trellis
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im aware of two characters called Guy, and one of them is Also the one i'm planning on doing next

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but neither are ones youd be making so i have no clue who this is

autumn trellis
ripe lance
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which colors

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green and black together?

autumn trellis
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yes

ripe lance
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i see

autumn trellis
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idk how well this keeps up throughout the cast but i like how cleanly it divides on (this one sprite of) knuckles

autumn trellis
autumn trellis
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why does the video start like that???

wraith trellis
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idk every ost upload from this guy starts like that

autumn trellis
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hes awesome

wraith trellis
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his gimmick is that hes the first street fighter character thats allowed to run

autumn trellis
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although admittedly i largely think that because he kind of reminds me of my pink robot guy - fhkjlsdfhlksd

wraith trellis
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im not joking one of his main moves is jsut that he runs forward and you can do different moves while he runs

autumn trellis
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big fan

wraith trellis
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he also says PROFOUND SADNESS whenever he loses in sf4

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
# wraith trellis

i was playing street fighter 4 recently and i got unironically hype when he did this pose on the win screen

autumn trellis
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i really wish there was a way to set only certain characters to show up in grand prix. i agree with the "entry fee of having Everyone" logic when it comes to netgames, but in singleplayer i wish you could change it

wraith trellis
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yea

autumn trellis
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it is funny when i want someone specific in test run

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because you can use the "force skin" cheat, but you need someone of the right color

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so you load in, see a blurry jumble in the distance, and try to identify them as early as you can so you know if you need to reset

wraith trellis
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you think this owuld be a good signpost

tribal sorrel
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guy is such a normal pick im surprised u let it stop you

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im out here debating if i wanna make hanuki

wraith trellis
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idk it seems like no one really cares about him

tribal sorrel
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from the tatami galaxy

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yea but hes a sf character

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and ur audience is sega nerds

ripe lance
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not related to anything: cream is insanely good with lesbianpride

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most colors fall flat on cream

tribal sorrel
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thats surprising

wraith trellis
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thats cool

tribal sorrel
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i remember when virt was makin cream shes like a twotone beast

wraith trellis
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i keep flipflopping on if i want jotaro to be green or not

wraith trellis
autumn trellis
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i mean, you could un-green him by just choosing a normal dark blue, right?

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but you can't re-green him if you never made him green

wraith trellis
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true words

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thats like an old chinese proverb

ripe lance
tribal sorrel
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that color is insane jesus

wraith trellis
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no

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it would be kind of funny

autumn trellis
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so its the same type of palette as

wraith trellis
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super forgot that star platinum eventually becomes "Star Platinum: The World"

autumn trellis
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i would imagine star platinum needs his own separate custom palette

wraith trellis
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idk i think id just make him purple

autumn trellis
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actually do stands have pronouns

wraith trellis
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well hes part of jotaro

autumn trellis
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i only just remembered i like jojo two days ago

wraith trellis
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hes literally a manifestation of jotaros soul

autumn trellis
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i mean i know i just dont remember if they inherit the users pronouns or if they're "it"

wraith trellis
#

did you ever intend on watching jojo anyway

ripe lance
#

maybe not?

autumn trellis
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maybe it depends on if they're meant to be like. a person. idk if the phone tower from part 4 inherits "he" from the guy

tribal sorrel
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im p sure most stands are it/its

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if they arent its on a per user basis

autumn trellis
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makes sense

tribal sorrel
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like im p sure spice girl uses she/her

wraith trellis
#

yeah there are like

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some stands that seem like they have a different gender from its user

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and some stands that are basically just objects

tribal sorrel
#

i wish star platinum was jonathan

wraith trellis
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i ahte doing the collar at this angle

autumn trellis
#

sheer heart attack follower would work so well

wraith trellis
#

true

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its even got an iconic marketable phrase it spams

autumn trellis
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im considering making a grab bag of various little guys after im done my mecha pack but i have so many ideas for my mecha pack i might be burnt out by time i get there

tribal sorrel
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still mad i missed the prop replica SHA

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im kind of tired of making followers

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i have a lot of ideas but idgaf

wraith trellis
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i havent made a single one yet

ripe lance
#

wega will never be real

autumn trellis
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i have a fair few more followers i wanna do but i need to do a racer so i can upload the pack

wraith trellis
#

sheer wega attack

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do you think i should release my resounding character pack of two whole characters after i finish jotaro or make ao oni first so i atleast have 3

autumn trellis
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im not sure what the like. upload meta is. if i upload early with a few characters and keep updating it, presumably the earlier stuff gets more downloads at the cost of the later ones

autumn trellis
ripe lance
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release it after jotaro is done

autumn trellis
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i think you should probably release it earlier than later. given the heavy market is becoming more crowded already

wraith trellis
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yeah thats kind of why i wanted to wait until i did ao oni

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because i feel lieke w/ this many heavies i might as well make heavy an optional download

ripe lance
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@autumn trellis is this green anything

tribal sorrel
#

i think relying on just the mb for downloads is giving urself a handicap

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guaranteed most of my dls come from twitter

autumn trellis
ripe lance
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noted

wraith trellis
#

well mit youve also got a crap ton of followers on twitter

autumn trellis
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the limes get so little options iggys hair was a travesty until i took it in my own hands

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yeah i have no other social media presence. i posted about the koopalings in kart krew but thats it

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granted i posted. a lot. i have extreme "i want to post after every little update" disease and i have to fight the urge to go HEY GUYS UPDATE for each new pixel

tribal sorrel
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one obviously wins

autumn trellis
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i have 850 dls on the koopalings but i have seen no servers with them
so. shrug. i feel like i cant expect anything more dl-wise. i figure the deciding factor of "will a server have them" isnt just dl visibility

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not that i expect to see mazinger z on every netgame, but i hope it does at least Half as well. that seems reasonable

tribal sorrel
#

separating them is also kind of kneecapping yourself

autumn trellis
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really?
i figured the overlap between koopaling fans and A Bunch Of Mecha Guys fans would be pretty low

tribal sorrel
#

have you seen my pack

autumn trellis
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yeah but you have a huge variety of characters. also you're really popular

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im planning on having like. two bubbles. i feel like its courteous to distinguish them

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(granted, koopaling fans are probably not the types to fuss over a cramped CSS given. lol. lmao)

tribal sorrel
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i think packs are universally better because it mwans not having to micromanage ten million downloads with one character each

autumn trellis
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oh what

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i never said i was doing that though?

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i have One koopaling pack (one guy, sure, but 8 followers) and then ill have One pack for everybody else

tribal sorrel
#

i am exaggerating but the same philosophy applies

autumn trellis
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thats fair

tribal sorrel
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i put all my shit in one download and it makes server hosting easier because its just one file people gotta make sure they have

autumn trellis
#

maybe i should just turn koopaling pack into casual koopa pack. and i can always include the two bubbles as side downloads but they're all under the same banner

tribal sorrel
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people arent gonna not download the koopalings because they come with an unrelated big robot, theyre gonna download the koopalings for the koopalings and now you have the big robot as a bonus

autumn trellis
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and then i could stop juggling Four Separate Versions lmao

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thats true. my only worry there is the robots are gonna outnumber the koopalings pretty quick

tribal sorrel
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girlpack says hi

autumn trellis
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true

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yeah, i think you're right. I should probably condense it

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god i'm gonna have to figure out a new top-of-the-page image. i need to figure out all the promotional stuff actually

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waiting for the day the soc thing gets fixed. and then it is only One version necessary. a beautiful sight

wraith trellis
#

does anyone have a reference for a collar at this angle

autumn trellis
#

do you have any shirts with collars you could just pose yourself

wraith trellis
#

not ones as comically big

tribal sorrel
#

u have it mostly right its just a little low for his head angle

wraith trellis
#

the left or right side

tribal sorrel
#

both?

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mostly the more visible side

wraith trellis
#

hows this look

tribal sorrel
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raise the back and ur good

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raise in a 3d space not the actual drawing

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so the connecting line of the collar follows the curve of his back

wraith trellis
#

right

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like uhh

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kind of like this

tribal sorrel
#

yea

ripe lance
wraith trellis
#

i feel like his shoulder in the background should be going out further

ripe lance
#

i think i was going for something remniscent of

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plantains

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but i don't think this fits that bill

wraith trellis
autumn trellis
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OH hi super

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uhh. i forget can you do spaces

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my first thought was "Fresh Grass"

ripe lance
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i don't wanna do spaces

autumn trellis
#

how about Photosynthesis

ripe lance
#

eh

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i mean if you want to go into it i could call this "herb"

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but it doesn't seem to fit the color having these shades in particular

tribal sorrel
#

you should fix the ditbering error in the middle

wraith trellis
#

of the kart?

tribal sorrel
#

ya

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the 2px

wraith trellis
#

yea right

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does this look better

tribal sorrel
#

ya

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if u wanna be really crazy u could do the ring racers "dithering"

autumn trellis
#

i definitely think "plants + energy" is the vibe of these colors but shrug
i think "radiation" is already taken by someone else but if it isnt, maybe?

wraith trellis
#

what is the ring racers dithering

tribal sorrel
#

it uses lines instead of checkerboard dots

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u can see it alot in menus

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
#

for reference

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im a bit disoriented on where to stick the colar again and im not sure if i made the arm too big

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or if the hands shape is nonsensical

wraith trellis
#

what do you guys think

ripe lance
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looks good

autumn trellis
#

i'm a little confused about what's happening here?

wraith trellis
#

yeah im kind of fighting for space between his shoulder and the collar

autumn trellis
#

is there supposed to be a fold of cloth going Over the shoulder?

wraith trellis
#

thats supposed to be the upper part of his shoulder

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but its kinda messy

autumn trellis
#

i dont really follow

wraith trellis
#

ok wait i think i got a solution

autumn trellis
#

right now im looking at this like

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i think red and blue are Supposed to be the same but that black line makes me think blue is draping over purple. and if thats the case i dont know what blue Is

wraith trellis
#

no the reds supposed to be the collar

autumn trellis
#

yeah i know

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what im not sure is what blue is

wraith trellis
#

oh now i see what you mean

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okay so youre thinking that the line implies its going over the shoulder

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right

autumn trellis
#

yeah

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the shoulder's outline is interrupted by blue

wraith trellis
#

its just supposed to be a clothing fold that comes from under the shoulder

autumn trellis
#

or like. maybe not? the shoulder might just be shaped that way. but the line being a line of green And outlined on both sides makes it read like its going over

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okay in that case what i Think might help is

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make this line not touch the end of the shoulder

wraith trellis
autumn trellis
#

yeah that did it

wraith trellis
#

that oughta do it

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shit that should be a horn

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you know what else should be a horn

#

im trying to figure out how to make the collar shape look natural

autumn trellis
#

both true horns

wraith trellis
tribal sorrel
ripe lance
#

more...

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why come

tribal sorrel
#

the older ones didnt feel like they fit anyomre

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the new ones r also references

ripe lance
#

wow i'm a fake fan i totally don't recognize them

tribal sorrel
#

aeriths is self explanatory

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tifas is from when she gets knocked down the stairs by sephiroth in nibelheim during the incident

ripe lance
#

ah

tribal sorrel
#

i am at a moralistic impasse

#

i almost wanna make a 12th character for v4

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but im not sure who

#

gb wario is furthest along, but is a boy

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and would upset the balance.

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im not really champing at the bit to do remake aerith either

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or spaniel aerith

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just not reallt up to touching the braid rn

ripe lance
#

make it a poll

wraith trellis
#

Make power from chainsaw man from scratch

tribal sorrel
#

fuck polls

autumn trellis
#

i dont think voters have a finger on the pulse of The Balance

tribal sorrel
wraith trellis
#

Lol

tribal sorrel
#

but id have to figure out voice clips ๐Ÿคข

wraith trellis
#

Are her vas shitty

tribal sorrel
#

japanese voice clips of a character predominantly from an anime

wraith trellis
#

Oh right

autumn trellis
#

im going to have a similar problem soon

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not for my robot but for the character two spots in line after

zinc vapor
#

Ngl I want to get into ring racers just for Mit's girlpack

wraith trellis
#

That reminds me of how badly I wanted to get jotaro shouting "SHUT THE HELL UP" from the anime as a voice clip but I didn't know how to remove the extra sound effects

wraith trellis
#

It's free

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No reason not to

tribal sorrel
#

i could make

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kiriko

wraith trellis
#

Are you gonna put her bike voice line in there

tribal sorrel
#

that would be funny

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it would probably be witch kiriko

#

maybe

wraith trellis
#

That's kind of funny

ripe lance
#

why witch kiriko specifically

tribal sorrel
#

main

ripe lance
#

ah

wraith trellis
#

I could make riverboat Cassidy and claim it's also doc holliday from tombstone

autumn trellis
#

i got hit by a divine bolt of inspiration or something today and knocked out The Vast Majority of my current project. im almost done now

wraith trellis
#

I'm making good progress on jotaro

autumn trellis
#

the only problem is the curse of "spending too long just watching the sprites spin" is amplified even further now that you actually have The Shape Of Everything for all 8 angles

wraith trellis
#

Ao only should hopefully get by much quicker

#

The shitty thing is that I'm basically going to have to invent a new side profile

#

You cannot tell me that this is the same face from both the front and side

autumn trellis
#

i mean

#

i would be inclined to believe that the point is its an ever-shifting face you can never be sure of

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but im not sure how much of the "the one exact ao oni face plastered on a billion creatures" thing is like. Real.

wraith trellis
#

It's weird and they don't really explain it

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But those other oni creatures are exactly that. They're other onis that are distinct from the main one

autumn trellis
#

oh no. my hurt sprite is bigger than the canvas im gonna have to get annoying

autumn trellis
#

i was gonna make the point of "well im asking if ao oni has more than one face" before realizing it was a ridiculous question

wraith trellis
#

Look at these magnificent beasts

autumn trellis
#

20 px added to the top (ignore this message im saving a record)

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oh wow i just noticed the guy in the back. aoi oni creatures are much larger than i thought

wraith trellis
#

Yeah he's like twice the size of a regular person

wraith trellis
#

And when he opens his mouth to swallow the player

#

The anime gives him an entirely new side profile to make his design consistent

autumn trellis
#

the what

wraith trellis
#

Yep

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I just realized this expression would be a great death sprite

autumn trellis
#

thatll do it for tonight. all the standard sprites are done

tribal sorrel
#

drowns

ripe lance
#

is this better signage

wraith trellis
wraith trellis
#

signifying the fact that theres trick pads is good

#

does the top left one just mean theres item boxes

ripe lance
#

ugh

#

it's supposed to mean that you need items for it

#

i don't know why there's no sign for "you need a sneaker"

wraith trellis
#

yeah that is dumb

#

maybe you could just use an up arrow to signify that theres something up

ripe lance
#

yeah but that doesn't really teach people to only try going up if you're using an item

wraith trellis
#

thats true

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i want to have the brightest color on the lower back too but idk how that should look

autumn trellis
#

only the signposts left now

wraith trellis
#

least favorite thing ever is when i make a decent looking head for the a4

#

and it doesnt look good on the body

autumn trellis
#

what about it doesnt look good

#

the only thing i can think is that the nose's outline is a straight vertical line

wraith trellis
#

it feels like hes looking off to the left

#

more than i want him to

#

and also yea the nose is kind of flush with the shoulder

tribal sorrel
#

doing something corrupt

wraith trellis
#

Idgi

ripe lance
#

she's redoing og aerith

wraith trellis
#

ohhhhhhh

#

maybe it makes more sense if i move his head right a few pixels

#

@tribal sorrel do you know how i should be drawing the details on this hat because a lot of it is asymmetrical and idk if it should even be showing up on this angle

#

i also feel like the brim of the hat isnt rotating as much as id like

tribal sorrel
#

if ur making him asymmetrical then u would hide it

ripe lance
#

for whatever reason no one's made this yet

#

what do I call this

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the answer is not mango

autumn trellis
#

you could name it sunbeam after sunbeam paradise

ripe lance
#

i don't think sunbeam paradise looks like this

tribal sorrel
#

should the bridge be a little more even?

ripe lance
#

eh what do you mean

#

like should I add another color to it

wraith trellis
#

a5 draft

#

idk how to shade the hat on these back angles

#

i also feel like the backs a little uninteresting to look at

autumn trellis
#

is the hair shading more visible with jotaros custom color

#

right now its really hard to make out the details

wraith trellis
#

probably

#

ok with the green yeah

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
#

ah yeah

#

it works fine this way though

#

any more orange or any more blue and characters start leaning too heavily into one or the other

wraith trellis
#

which arm shading makes more sense do you guys think

tribal sorrel
autumn trellis
#

girlpack having Four Separate aeriths is really good

#

sprites are all done. now its just voices

wraith trellis
#

this is unrelated to the back but for his lookback i wanted to make him do an exaggerated grimace

#

i feel like these leans a little too much on goofy

#

i also dont think this looks particularly angry

tribal sorrel
#

this aerith would likely replace the first pass

autumn trellis
#

oh okay

#

this might be something you're actively not doing to preserve the aesthetic but i was wondering if youd ever see his eyes. like for lookback or smth

wraith trellis
#

i think the only way id do that is like an eye flash or something

ripe lance
#

is this brown a good contrasting color for the palette

#

ditto but for this other one

wraith trellis
#

i think so

#

that top one is the world color palette right

ripe lance
#

yea

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
#

oh yeah

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
#

when i get al the sprites down i want to give him an exaggerated sparkle shine like what youd normally get on tires

#

does anyone know if theres a way to pull it off

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obviously not as crazy as the picture but like

autumn trellis
#

what, just Constantly?

wraith trellis
#

no like

#

the same way the tire shine appeasr

autumn trellis
#

yeah so like. constantly, then?

wraith trellis
#

i guess

autumn trellis
#

i guess "except for when you're not moving"

#

uh. its 100% possible without lua but it would be extremely annoying, comma, i think

wraith trellis
autumn trellis
#

you just make a billion tireshine sprites

wraith trellis
#

the original picture does it and i think it'd be a cool flourish

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it might be impossible at this resolution

autumn trellis
#

i imagine even if you got the loop to, like, 8 sprites, you would still need a billion because otherwise they'd be going at lightspeed

#

but you COULD do it.

#

trying to do the math here. i think youd need to have 7 states x 8 rotations x lets say 16 frames of animation. thats 896 frames. so maybe that is straight up outside the realm of possibility

ripe lance
#

i considered making it yellow

autumn trellis
#

oh oops

wraith trellis
#

i was gonna say

autumn trellis
#

no i mean. (no) to the joke of "birder color scheme??" because i know its jotaro

wraith trellis
#

i think yellow would be good

ripe lance
#

i'll try yellow

wraith trellis
#

especially because its a jotaro color

#

and yellow is the color for dio

autumn trellis
#

i like the brown but yellow does make sense

tough bluff
#

Adhd stikes again and I spend 15 minutes messing around with this instead of actually mapping....

ripe lance
#

i saw your earlier video on it

#

is this better

#

or do I go for a more vibrant yellow

wraith trellis
#

i was picturing a more vibrant yellow but i think that does work

autumn trellis
#

i would prefer it like this to a bright yellow

#

it is supposed to be a Background color, and all

wraith trellis
#

yeah

ripe lance
#

kk

autumn trellis
#

briefly went "wait why cant i see the cap on top of jotaros head" before remembering thats like the Whole Thing

wraith trellis
#

it makes shading it a lot harder

tough bluff
wraith trellis
#

idk how to render the hat at this angle

autumn trellis
#

i do personally think the hair should be closer in color to thehat

tough bluff
#

But it looks good ThumbsUp0

autumn trellis
#

like, i see the original drawing has a very noticable color change, and i get that. but right now it feels as though theres some sort of Dividing Line

wraith trellis
#

the default green makes it a lot more dramatic

autumn trellis
#

i realize that im just throwing out ideas without having spent nearly as much time considering this design as you, but i think if you lightened the hair it would solve the issue of "the hat feels like a separate object just floating in front of him on the A5"

#

oh ic

#

well. doesnt that mean its gonna be a lot more dramatic on Most palettes?

wraith trellis
#

maybe

#

im probably gonna go back to using the old color mapping because thats suited towards this greenish blue

ripe lance
#

my colors are done i just need to update the forum post now

wraith trellis
#

does it look better if theres less visible lighter green for the hat

ripe lance
#

i think you should try any color other than default green

#

which is kinda garbo to begin with

#

these are some colors with 16 unique shades

tribal sorrel
#

staff suggestion is to make charslook good in green

wraith trellis
#

my stupid ass forgot im using indexed mode so i can quite literally just sprite everything in the intended palette and switch back to the regular green

autumn trellis
#

i never figured out how to do that even though im sure its very easy and convenient. i should probably do that for my next project

wraith trellis
#

its so easy

#

you just make a palette where the green row is replaced with the color palette youre using

#

and then when youre done swap back to the green row palette

autumn trellis
#

that would be so awesome

wraith trellis
#

heres the back wit hthe intended palette

autumn trellis
#

presumably i could also make several other palettes like that ahead of time so i could immediately see how it looks in other colors

wraith trellis
#

heres supers mapping

autumn trellis
#

hmm. now i think its Too strong a contrast

#

but i think its better

wraith trellis
autumn trellis
#

lol

ripe lance
#

is this a good preview pic

#

egg rank!

autumn trellis
#

i stopped thinking about ranks for ages and then i remembered and somehow im Still rank 10

ripe lance
#

i forgot to replace amy with motobug

autumn trellis
#

i know you already talked about this but Personally i dont think "world" fits the jotaro color

ripe lance
ripe lance
wraith trellis
#

yeah its a blue to green color

autumn trellis
#

in my head "star platinum the world" is much brighter because a) its star platinums color and b) i associate star platinum the world a lot more with jotaros part 4 outfit- oh ic

wraith trellis
#

thats 4 words bro

autumn trellis
#

what

#

no i mean. i thought "world" was referring to "star platinum the world" because thats what you said earleir

wraith trellis
#

i feel like its arleady extra to make your color name 2 words

#

oh

autumn trellis
#

but if its Also referring to The Literal World then i get it

ripe lance
#

is duel a better name for mod

wraith trellis
#

is mod a reference to anything

ripe lance
#

mango sentinel

#

which is a mod

#

but also because it's sort of synthetic?

#

idk

tribal sorrel
#

nerf

ripe lance
#

insane

wraith trellis
#

idk duel i guess makes more sense for the idea that its a clashing color

#

btw what am i gonna do hwen i upload jotaro

#

like do i include the custom color

autumn trellis
#

the ol You Have To Make A Basically Identical Lua Version

wraith trellis
#

because if youre uploading it as well i dont want it to dupe the color or something

tribal sorrel
#

it doesnt

wraith trellis
#

oh okay

#

cool

tribal sorrel
#

if the color is identical it doesnt dupe

ripe lance
#

yea

#

but if we want to update the color we need to coordinate

#

otherwise it gets replaced

wraith trellis
wraith trellis
#

ok rn this is the weird solution i came up with

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
#

i likey

#

they're here

wraith trellis
#

turnarounds almost done

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im not big on the brim placement for the a7 and a8

#

i think i got it better on this gif

wraith trellis
#

hows this

ripe lance
#

yea this looks good

#

what are you going to do for the rest of the sprites

wraith trellis
#

nothing special for drift

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but for glance i wanted to make him lean to the side hes looking at and grimace

autumn trellis
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the characters and followers are cool but it feels like a lot to make you change things like the title screen and menus

tribal sorrel
ripe lance
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yay

wraith trellis
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Cloud!

autumn trellis
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big fan of him having the sword in the kart

ripe lance
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he has it on his back all the time

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so naturally

autumn trellis
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I listened to mit and put everyone in there. including Myself because why not. now i dont need to have 2 special 1upw versions of it on top of the 2 normal versions

tribal sorrel
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whats the trick to making an animated icon again

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on the mb i mena

ripe lance
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i have no fucking idea dude

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i tried doing the exact same thing today

autumn trellis
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i pinged you with the answer super

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you need to make it 96x96

ripe lance
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i somehow doubt that's true

autumn trellis
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i mean i Just Did It

tribal sorrel
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i just saw this in the discord

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its true

autumn trellis
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And It Worked

tribal sorrel
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i also just did it

ripe lance
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god

wraith trellis
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Wdym animated icon

autumn trellis
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theres a notice under the button to do it which says "we recommend an image over 100x100" which makes it not work lol

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its a gif

tribal sorrel
autumn trellis
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awesome

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aerith Cannot be allowed to leave the icon

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oh and also ive been wondering this but i just checked and now know for sure that if you download an updated version of a pack it doesnt count as a new download

wraith trellis
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It's funny that Mario flips around to reveal Luigi and not the other Mario

autumn trellis
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super paper mario Denied

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also i just went to look because i was curious about the difference in juris lookback and im happy that orpheus BACK, DEMON stayed

ripe lance
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yeah it worked

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i'm pissed.

autumn trellis
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lol

wraith trellis
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SALTYDKDAN??

ripe lance
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his norm jokes are sooo funny

wraith trellis
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You know I was gonna ask if I should make a new norm follower

ripe lance
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...

wraith trellis
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But I was worried that you would kill me if I asked

tribal sorrel
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salty is in kart krew btw

ripe lance
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@tribal sorrel should be 4/8

wraith trellis
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Does he post there at all

ripe lance
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no

autumn trellis
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how would i make the a3 fit in more with the others?
all the other angles were over a reference, but i couldnt find a good reference at the right angle for a3. so i took a close-ish one and went "ill do it On My Own!" and i think i eventually got it fine by itself. but it feels unnatural in the turnaround and i cant figure out how to address it

wraith trellis
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the nose is more prominent in the a3 than the other sprites

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the bangs also look like they should curve outwards more

autumn trellis
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what do you mean by "outward"?

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like this?

wraith trellis
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yea

autumn trellis
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noted

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the big problem i feel like im having is the bottom of the head

wraith trellis
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yeah you should give her a more prominent chin and a less protruding nose

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so like

autumn trellis
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the problem i keep having is like. the bottom being Flat here feels weird and bad to me

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but thats like? how it should be? according to the closest references i have? also defining the chin more means making the rest of it even flatter

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as it stands it comes off more like shes wearing a helmet than being a person with hair

wraith trellis
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who is this character

autumn trellis
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mikoto gaoigagar. im doing all* the characters from it i want to do in a row

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i wouldve started with the main character but his hair looks like This so. im a little frightened. putting it off juuuuust a little

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but yeah you can see her bangs have that slight inwards curve to them that translates to an outside curve from the side

wraith trellis
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is this anything

autumn trellis
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hmm. okay so, she doesnt have that extra hair at the bottom of her head. i think it looks better but its not part of her design
the chin and ears are helpful. i already made some changes but ill try those and see if i like them more
and then the bangs keeping the outward curve on the. like, in the middle of the png. im not sure about that? that might be Just What I Needed but ill try it and see

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i think that did it! ty

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er. except theres a hole in one of the ponytails ?? idk how that happened lol

wraith trellis
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@tribal sorrel are there any overwatch voice lines you thinkd be good for ring racers

tribal sorrel
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randomized kiriko tarot

wraith trellis
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just like

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all of them?

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i should clarify im talking about horns

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id make the kiriko tarots a multihorn IF THEY STILL EXISTED!!!

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whats the hold up

tribal sorrel
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no yea i knew

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thats why i said randomized

wraith trellis
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so do i do all of them

tribal sorrel
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not separately

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it should be a multihorn

wraith trellis
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theres no multihorns for ring racers yet

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i dont think at least

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if you acn find an update that has it i will 100% add it

autumn trellis
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what's the original srb2k mod that adds multihorns?

wraith trellis
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hornmod championship edition

autumn trellis
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i wonder how much tweaking it would take to just plug it in

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also: got most of the way done the turnaround today

autumn trellis
wraith trellis
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this one adds some overwatch voicelines that my friend group spams the shit out of

ripe lance
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you just got probed

wraith trellis
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new follower idea

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what sound clip would play for this

wraith trellis
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is there a way to transform part of one layer and the rest of another layer at the same timne

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in aseprite

autumn trellis
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seems like no, looking at aseprites wiki

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what do you need to do?

wraith trellis
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for the turn sprites i want to easily rotate part of the body sprite along with the head

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without having to first turn part of the body and then remember the same angle i turned it ot and then turn the head and adjust its position

autumn trellis
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isnt that only two sprites

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surely you could just make a new layer with the copied head and however much ofthe body you want to rotate

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and then rotate That

wraith trellis
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Yeahhh but I wanna reuse the head for the drift sprites

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Otherwise I would very much just do that

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Wait what am I saying

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Why don't I just make a copy of the head before merging it with the body and rotating it the same way

autumn trellis
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yes

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lol