Ring Racers

[ripe lance]

because the old one was deemed unfit...?

[autumn trellis]

like, im sure you could layer the two tracks and go "see look they're similar" and you wouldnt be Wrong

[wraith trellis]

probably

except for final fall

[autumn trellis]

but it doesnt feel like the same track at all. if anything thats more of an easter egg

[ripe lance]

they redid final fall entirely so it actually resembled the level it's based on

which is one of the design philosophies of this game

[autumn trellis]

like, Sure, but also not really

[wraith trellis]

this is how the original f zero designs tracks

[ripe lance]

which is probably what they also did with green hills

[autumn trellis]

i just feel like it doesnt make sense to call them the same

[ripe lance]

ironically green hills wasn't really meant to be based on green hills from sonic 2 8-bit

it was originally just called green hill zone

but the devs are contrarians (my conjecture) so they didn't like starting with boring old green hill zone

[wraith trellis]

i hate the new chiptune music

i wish they stuck with the original

[wraith trellis]

they did this but between games

i think new final falls layout kind of sucks tbh

[ripe lance]

yea

[wraith trellis]

does anyone know where these tracks are

[autumn trellis]

iirc ive always disliked final fall. but in srb2k it was a skill issue and here i think its that i just dont like it

[ripe lance]

i have someone's port of gba rainbow road using the old spring panels

[autumn trellis]

because im not falling off all the time or anything it just has bad feel

[ripe lance]

they considered porting petroleum refinery

alas, it's unfinished

they left in the textures

[wraith trellis]

WHAT

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[ripe lance]

i don't mind it being gone

they would've cut the dkc music

[autumn trellis]

i am glad we dont have the. uh. i think it was an f zero one? it was all black and i was really really bad at it

[wraith trellis]

i dont think theres any f zero tracks in base game

unless you mean the one that played white land from f-zero snes

[ripe lance]

srb2kart had an f-zero track

but it was map hell

[autumn trellis]

i think there was a white and blue f zero one in srb2k? i dont mean that

[wraith trellis]

which im pretty sure is still in tyhe game they just removed the f zero music

[ripe lance]

there's also another track in srb2kart with f-zero music

[autumn trellis]

granted all my memories of srb2k are kind of f zero tinged because i had to hear RRRRRESTART so often

[ripe lance]

which is the desert night one

[autumn trellis]

i am so glad we dont have that anymore

[wraith trellis]

^ this guy has no boost power

[autumn trellis]

i remember joining some server and theyd ported a similar if not the same announcer mod and i was like i cant do this

[ripe lance]

@autumn trellis @wraith trellis do we want this

i meant to ping mit

[wraith trellis]

idk if its fun to play on

[ripe lance]

whatever

[autumn trellis]

i see no reason not to try it

[wraith trellis]

the snes rainbow road port sucks ass

[autumn trellis]

i dont think i want to play Right Now though

[ripe lance]

i never liked gba rainbow road in srb2kart

[autumn trellis]

in case thats what youre asking

[ripe lance]

no it's not

[autumn trellis]

i liked it a lot but also i think my perspecive would probably be pretty different in RR

admittedly i think it wouldnt gel well with the increased speed from using rings

[ripe lance]

i just don't get the point of a track in a multiplayer racing game where the entire point is you need to skip 50% of it

you simply need to not engage with the track design as much as you can!

[wraith trellis]

sky garden is the bigger loss i nmy opinion

and also peach gardens

[autumn trellis]

mmm. true i think

[wraith trellis]

i didnt know opulence wasnt a base game srb2k track until i looked up the tracks a few minutes ago

[ripe lance]

it wasn't base base

it got added in an update

[wraith trellis]

yeah its community that got added in

[ripe lance]

it got added replacing another community track

because of some sort of drama with the creator

who no longer wants to be associated with srb2kart or anything like it

which uhhhhhhhhhh sucks i actually really liked their tracks in that game

they're some of my favorites

gay energy zone....

[wraith trellis]

i cant tell if grand metropolis is in ring racers or if im just gaslighting myselfg into thinking it is

[autumn trellis]

they had to cut it because shadow is dead in ring racers
everybody tried to be straight. and they succeeded

im almost certain theres a grand metropolis battle map

[wraith trellis]

this track sucks ass

[autumn trellis]

and we played on it i think

that race track isntin the game

[wraith trellis]

YES! EPIC WIN!

[autumn trellis]

can i go on an irrelevant tangent

[wraith trellis]

ok

[autumn trellis]

how mandatory is it to say ggs
im generally pretty open with saying "i enjoyed the games! it was good!" and such, but i dont like saying "gg". it feels too gamer-y. and sometimes i feel like i dont want to type anything in chat so i can just leave whenever i want
but i feel like it's bad form to stay silent. so i keep making myself type ggs and then i cant just leave within one or two rounds of joining because then peoplell think i think its bgs

[wraith trellis]

i dont think its mandatory

[autumn trellis]

i feel like i have to pay the tax of being forced to press 1-g-g-enter on my keyboard every so often in order to use chat. and even to Not use chat

[wraith trellis]

i dont really pay attention ro care about it because like

everyone says it even if they dont mean it

[autumn trellis]

nod
i still like going "wow that was really great" after a particularly entertaining game but i just dont like saying it at random. feels wrong, even though ive yet to have a "ggs' situation on a g that i didnt think was at least decently g

[wraith trellis]

ending every match by saying i think the winner needs to die

[autumn trellis]

i have also several times joined a match going "okay im gonna be radio silent on chat so people dont expect me to talk"

"...but i have a really good joke for this situation though"

[wraith trellis]

true

oh heres the f zero track super was talking about

does it have the iconic bombs

[autumn trellis]

this is also not the one i meant

so i have no idea of any identifying details for the one I was talking about

[wraith trellis]

the only one in base game that i think would fit is blue mountain because it is indeed mostly black

[ripe lance]

yep

[wraith trellis]

and plays music from f zero

[autumn trellis]

no i remember and liked blue mountain

[wraith trellis]

you could be thinking about mute city which is not base game

[ripe lance]

sand valley

[autumn trellis]

i have no idea what srb2k tracks were base game

although i guess i could just like. look at this list myself

[autumn trellis]

yeah its not on this list. i guess it wasnt basegame

[ripe lance]

is it this one

[autumn trellis]

maybe? i think so?

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/d00dpack-returns-v2-neo-green-hill-zone.6578/

d00dpack v2

[ripe lance]

what

[wraith trellis]

this character is pissing me off

[ripe lance]

ok

how does a character piss you off

[wraith trellis]

every time i p[lay online and get hit by an item its from someone playing cream

i dont know how it happens

[autumn trellis]

hes the original starwalker

anyway i also have a character like that and its carol

as CPUs i beef with caterkiller and ohta but online its always carol. i hear swEEt and my anger burns

[ripe lance]

had fun tonight

[ripe lance]

don't know if i posted this but i made a list of every custom track in the game and every song that they use
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pdeCbPQZ63rtYInFxkx8VY1uBHnXrsgwlhsros9JC9U/edit#heading=h.beg1fokh9htv

and i just finished setting up a youtube playlist for it
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtWjF5dfhPcNE6pDSkPSb7nL0vqcfVpRG

but it sucks so don't actually play it

[autumn trellis]

lookback
(i need to do the inverse version but that should just be swapping roy and mortons heads with the glance-right versions)

[ripe lance]

i'm making the bitchiest to make battle map ever

everything you see here is a triangle

and so to manipulate the textures so they actually look good i need to go selecting every triangle hand by hand rotating the textures and shit

[wraith trellis]

jesus

whats the plan with this map

[ripe lance]

it's a battle map

it's a port from ||crash nitro kart for the n-gage|| and i want to flex basically

this is lower priority than the slide which is at a standstill because i'm waiting to test it with you guys

[wraith trellis]

ah

well after i finish this practice test i could prob do it

@autumn trellis @tribal sorrel what do you guys think about playtesting it today

[autumn trellis]

i could do that

[tribal sorrel]

i am busy all week

[wraith trellis]

alright

well @ripe lance can you playtest with 3 people

[ripe lance]

sure

[autumn trellis]

can you post the wip mod

if we're just doing brief testing anyway, i want to try hosting

see if it works any better

[autumn trellis]

okay servers up

i just need to sort out how to send a discord invite

[ripe lance]

you need the discord app for one

[autumn trellis]

yeah im on it

it seems not to be detecting ring racers though

even though when i turn on this setting it shows up in This way

oh here we go

that's annoying! i don't like having that feature on but i guess it's Mandatory to host. so ill ahve to remember to turn it back off

and you have to Keep it on too

[wraith trellis]

im gonna join when i finish this f zero race

[autumn trellis]

wow! that really sucks! is there no way to change that?

[wraith trellis]

im studying big blue ordeal to see if i could make it a track i nring racers

[autumn trellis]

i want to be able to send invites without discord announcing it to the world every time i play something

[autumn trellis]

im tempted to make a map but i have too many characters i want to make and i also really want to do other things

[ripe lance]

still the same

[autumn trellis]

does that one work

wow that sucks a lot!

[ripe lance]

for what it's worth the game doesn't show up in your profile at alll

[autumn trellis]

and you cant join me directly if youve never joined me before i take it

because you dont have my IP in your Previously Joined

[ripe lance]

nope

[autumn trellis]

did that do it

[ripe lance]

nope

[autumn trellis]

okay i guess im not a good choice for hosting!

we'll wait for smg i suppose

that sucks! discord just doesnt like me i guess

[wraith trellis]

ok im ready

[autumn trellis]

playing through ti on my own: definitely seems Strict

[wraith trellis]

the answer to this is yes

the only antigrav thing that happens is a corkscrew that you could just take out because it undoes itself anyway

im hosting right

[autumn trellis]

yea

i tried but discord is cross with me

[ripe lance]

did you get supermetal 11

[wraith trellis]

yes

[autumn trellis]

maddeningly, i can join Your Games Specifically just fine, but everything else is broken

[wraith trellis]

removing pingas hold on

[ripe lance]

goodbye pingas monster

[autumn trellis]

cont: i think the second shortcut comes in at a slightly awkward angle

my first time i passed the tripwire but just didnt get into the ring

i feel like we may as well do a vanilla session to see if that helps. because i feel like it wont but i actually think we might not have done a control test

[wraith trellis]

@autumn trellis

this is the context to that horn

[wraith trellis]

i noticed in the last race that weegee stares at you if you slipstream

which is really scary

[autumn trellis]

are his glance sprites just fully turning around

[wraith trellis]

yes

[autumn trellis]

lol

[wraith trellis]

really good map design

Peter. The falcon is coming

[autumn trellis]

i was really happy that insta whip hit

in the same race smg i hope you appreciated me backstabbing you at the very start of lap 1

[wraith trellis]

yup

[ripe lance]

thanks haya

[autumn trellis]

someone else on kart krew discord reports having the same problem as smg of having sync failures with girlpack mario and luigi

[tribal sorrel]

where

[autumn trellis]

discussion channel

#270211185666686978 message

[ripe lance]

is this because of the inaccessible palette thing

[wraith trellis]

Ok well at least it's not a rare thing that only happens to me

[tribal sorrel]

it seems to only affect the lua version

[tribal sorrel]

u know u can make animation frames. in aseprite right

[wraith trellis]

now im curious what the proper workflow is

ive just been making a new layer for every sprite

sometimes multiple

so that i can take off the head from one sprite and use it on another

[tribal sorrel]

im worried if i show u my frames itll blow ur mind

i do each pose by layer

then rotations by frame

[wraith trellis]

so like

A is a layer, but each number is a frame?

[tribal sorrel]

ig thinking about it this format isnt so different from this

[tribal sorrel]

yea

[wraith trellis]

huh

do you have like

every frame displayed at once or do you just do it one by one

im not really savvy with aseprite so i dont know all the features you can do with it

[tribal sorrel]

its one by one

[wraith trellis]

ive been kind of just using it like photoshop but with pixels

[tribal sorrel]

i can show whenever i get home

[wraith trellis]

sounds good

[autumn trellis]

oh i wasn tlooking but yes i know that lol

each file is the final version of each animation

[tribal sorrel]

holy fuck

ok nvm u right

[autumn trellis]

so my process is

each direction has a folder

in which theres a folder for each koopaling, and the kart itself

and then each koopaling and the kart have a few layers each for stuff like Head, Body, Hair when applicable, a few extra things

and then each File is for one state

in an ideal world i would just have one folder for each koopaling and stuff. like, the vast majority of these have Nothing in them. i think they're just filled because of the way i copied them, or something

but i need to have the orders differ. like, roy is in front of morton for some rotations but behind morton for others. so they need to allbe separate

i can sift through it fairly easily in my head but it is a looot of tedious scrolling

this is probably a better example. scrolled up from the last image

its gonna be a real pain to recolor though

on account of i cant just flatten and replace all because some stuff needs to stay intact

[autumn trellis]

in case its relevant: just tried default color mario on a public server to test it and it gave me the sync problemtoo

[wraith trellis]

confession: whenever she does shadow blade i cant help but hear her say "chocolate rain"

[autumn trellis]

its crazy how convincing her outfit's shoulder frills are at such a small scale
in that they both read correctly idle and follow an observable path in the turnaround

[ripe lance]

i ported this guy from srb2kart

so the message boards have an interesting rule where it's completely fine to port character add-ons from srb2kart to ring racers without asking as long as you change virtually nothing about them

as i did here

i wonder if i should ask and submit this anyway

[dusty python]

Sick hairstyle

[wraith trellis]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/1806486233788674525

[ripe lance]

i guess there's a problem with this

i can't find "Canbough", the guy who originally made cloud

which is like precisely the reason you can submit this without asking i guess

[ripe lance]

Something I wish was mentioned on the shortcuts in the CSS: Pressing ITEM if you have multiple characters occupying the same stat block will bring up an alternate selection where only the alts are shown

[wraith trellis]

this base roster is awesome

[autumn trellis]

WHAT

[ripe lance]

ok the guy who uploaded cloud just dipped and vanished from like anything

i guess i'm just uploading this no questions asked

anyway can you guys help me figure out who cloud's rivals are

out of the base game cast

here are the ones i've figured out. i only want three so i want to know which are the strongest

• Amy - Aerith (sort of)
• Sonic - Zack (sort of)
• Chaos 0 - Jenova (only alien-esque character in the game)
• Battle Kukku - Shinra as a whole (he's a military guy)

there's no sephiroth equivalent in this game

[wraith trellis]

i think the sonic zack one is kind of weak

[ripe lance]

yeah

[wraith trellis]

why dont you just use mits tifa and aerith anyway

i know it doesnt work if you dont already have those mods but

i feel like if someones getting cloud theyll probably get mits pack too

[ripe lance]

no that's the thing

i am using mit's aerith and tifa

i just want cloud to have 3 rivals in case someone doesn't load girlpack

and also it's fun to figure this out anyway

ok more context you can have more than 3 rivals

the limit in kartmaker is arbitrary

[wraith trellis]

WHAT

[ripe lance]

all base game characters only have 3 rivals which makes sense

[autumn trellis]

i thought even if the modded characters dont load it still counts them as the first three

people ask this a lot in kart krew and thats the answer i always saw

[ripe lance]

shrug

[autumn trellis]

i guess its probably not hard to just test for yourself

for some reason people always phrase it as "kind of. you can input more than three but it only counts the first three"

which is like. nonsense. if that's true, that just means no you cant

[ripe lance]

that's probably true in the context of kartmaker specifically

[wraith trellis]

how do you add more

[tribal sorrel]

i was told the limit is not arbitrary

do you know for sure

[ripe lance]

i guess i'll go test

[autumn trellis]

i would assume you Supposedly just add the character names directly in slade
but also every source ive seen on this says this isnt true. even though a lot of those sources are frustratingly confusingly worded

[tribal sorrel]

i mean if it did work you just add another comma and a character name

[autumn trellis]

by the way mit can i use your mario as a rival for the koopalings

[wraith trellis]

this is a funny question to ask

not in a mean way it just makes me think of mugen

[tribal sorrel]

yea + you dont have to ask

[ripe lance]

yeah no ok it's definitely capped to the first 3 you type in

[autumn trellis]

thumbup ty

theres an obvious argument to be made that i should set luigi too but im thinking their other two rivals will be jet and bomb. because they're also from "silly antagonistic-Seeming groups" even though neither are actually Bad Guys™️. also airships and explosives

(wipes sweat from brow) that zavok isn't base game otherwise id feel kind of obligated to have him

[wraith trellis]

the deadly six (jimmy neutron screenshot)

[ripe lance]

ok i'm just doing girlpack aerith and tifa

and a sephiroth that doesn't exist

[autumn trellis]

i wish i had it in me to defend the deadly six but. no they're just bad. i can muster a halfhearted little "zazz is fun" but thats it

[wraith trellis]

awesome

idk if this is intentional but i like how shes colored like the promo art for the game

[tribal sorrel]

ya its intentional

[wraith trellis]

awesome reference

[tribal sorrel]

id have her hair color like that too if there was a basegame palette that did it

[autumn trellis]

the purple shading on the skin is nice

[wraith trellis]

i should probabl work on jotaro but all my creative juice is being used to think of stupid horns

[tribal sorrel]

this has been my destress project

after putting it off for like 3 weeks

which is good that its my destress because if i locked in for this i'd be losing hair

[ripe lance]

i feel insane seeing people use destress

[autumn trellis]

when i finish the koopalings im either gonna throw myself into "a bunch of guy from an anime i like" or "a singular follower idea that i think is cool" or just pause entirely to go play trails in the sky

[ripe lance]

never in my life have i seen people use it outside of the spanish word that's similar to it

it's only been in like the past couple of weeks

[autumn trellis]

whenever i read "destress" i can only think of hair

[tribal sorrel]

the real question

is do i give her the butt wings

[ripe lance]

shit idk

[autumn trellis]

i am always a supporter of more wings

[tribal sorrel]

color wip

[wraith trellis]

hype

wdym butt wings

[tribal sorrel]

shes got em

but not in the sprite

[wraith trellis]

oh thats what you mean by butt wings

for some reason i never even noticed that thats where theyre placed

[tribal sorrel]

cooking?

[wraith trellis]

whats the difference here

[wraith trellis]

ohh

[tribal sorrel]

i finished getting the contrast right

[wraith trellis]

what are you gonna use for her voice clips

[tribal sorrel]

IDK

[ripe lance]

she should have decent quality clips in like mvc3

[tribal sorrel]

yea

[wraith trellis]

if you want og game vibes the cvs2 clips are pretty high quality with the same general delivery

[wraith trellis]

@autumn trellis i think the reason why you havent been able to save my horns is becuase ive been updating them with a new name every time so its technically a different file

[autumn trellis]

oh lol

i need to get My horns up and running but i havent had the time

shakes fist

i have a discord channel where ive been throwing my horn ideas

[wraith trellis]

awesome

[ripe lance]

there they are. the butt wings

this is insane

[tribal sorrel]

heres without

[autumn trellis]

massively in favor of the wings they look great

[autumn trellis]

apparently its now been one month since i started

[ripe lance]

woo

[autumn trellis]

im soooo close. i just need to make one more head turn for each drift sprite and add the angry eyes, and then all of the basic sprites are done

at which point i need to do the UI sprites and go through the process of recoloring them all

recoloring is gonna suck so bad. but i dont know exactly How bad its gonna suck, because ive vaguely heard that aseprites color replace can do multiple layers simulatenously, but im not certain + if it Cant, idk what the fastest solution ill find will be

oh and i need a death sprite. that too

[tribal sorrel]

i will say

it is insane to work backwards wrt recoloring

but also like

if u sheet everything then recolor after

it should be ok

[autumn trellis]

i had that thought several times but i was like "but i dont know what colors ill end up using" and then i was like "but itll be easier for me to keep track of if the colors are all distinct"

which was probably not the correct move but its the move i went with

on account of the koopalings are really straining to fit all their recolorable bits into 16 colors

i would be fine to recolor after if i didnt have some things that i need to keep the same. so i cant just flatten layers. (as one example) i need to be able to change larrys hair but not his shell

which Itself is frustrating. i feel like i should be able to change his shell. but the color budget is simply too thin

[wraith trellis]

oh yeah @tribal sorrel whats ur setup

[tribal sorrel]

oh yea hold on

[tribal sorrel]

layer 2 is kart

layer 3 is just a solid color

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/stapy-kart-2-cosmetics.7030/

someone ported the old motobug from srb2kart to ring racers

old kart and all

[autumn trellis]

feels weird to call the srb2k version "lazily made" while you're porting it and making its rivals your own characters

[ripe lance]

not even scaled up lol

i guess it looks natural with motobug though

[autumn trellis]

like. permit me to say that its a little much to throw around "lazily made" while also doing this

[ripe lance]

yeah so they uploaded this without asking anyone about it beforehand

since it was an update there was no review process

they've since realized the error of their ways

and it's now under review

[autumn trellis]

not about this specific example but its kind of weird that updates happen without review

like i get they maybe have to have it that way. itd be very annoying to have to have a little sprite correction get reviewd

but you can upload a character pack of like, two characters, have them get reviewed, and then update it with 18 more that completely skip the process

[dusty python]

THE WINGS

Comically large bat wings

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/kirbybabyluigi-pack.6621/

someone ported GBA Rainbow Road

[ripe lance]

also someone made a character that has like a million billion pixels

(384x384)

[wraith trellis]

holy shit

[wraith trellis]

whats the solid color for

[tribal sorrel]

makes things easier to see

sometimes the transparency grid is unhelpful

esp when ur looking for holes

[wraith trellis]

thats true

[wraith trellis]

curse these damn hat emblems

theyre drawn at an angle that i cannot conceptualize in sprite form

[tough bluff]

Wtf there's a ring racers channel

Funny dynamic music stuff

[ripe lance]

hi mayo

changing to another song entirely for underwater is a bit wild

also do you mind dropping the michael jackson launch base remix

[tough bluff]

Underwater:
https://youtu.be/KvTcvKBjIt8?si=p6rQec_l3XT1XTHh
Normal:
https://youtu.be/3x-6j9n1qug?si=rvsoMd9k6qtxyglV

[ripe lance]

ty

pro-tip for eight beat

[tough bluff]

That reminds of of that one figure eight map

[ripe lance]

there's several

[wraith trellis]

i need to think of a good way to color map this

[ripe lance]

what needs to be recolorable

[wraith trellis]

i think the jacket and hat obviously but i feel like itdbe weird to have the kart stay the same color

but i think ive used up too many colors to two tone it

this doesnt help with that but i tried reshaping the hat

because i realized the original art odesnt give it a consistent shape from the front and side

[ripe lance]

you're only using 8 shades for the green

so like

maaaybeee?

[wraith trellis]

i feel like theres probably a way to reduce the amount of contrast and shit going on with the greens

because its definitely a lot of rendering going on

but idk how i could

this cuts it down to 6, at least

[wraith trellis]

does anyone have any ideas on how i could map this or turn down the jacket contrast

[ripe lance]

well what do you want exactly

[wraith trellis]

i feel like the jacket is a little too bright

and i also want to try to see if i could get a custom spraycan two tone scheme with the car and the jacet

i think im leaning towards just doing one of these two

[ripe lance]

my attempt

[wraith trellis]

is there any chance you could make the darkest part of the jacket lighter

or does it just turn into a blue that doesnt look like it fits

[ripe lance]

the darkest shade on the jacket is a blue

i can maybe sneak in a slightly darker green

actually there technically is already one

ok got it

@wraith trellis

[wraith trellis]

holy shit

[ripe lance]

exact numbers

actually I should add pure white into this as well

otherwise the antialiasing for the white will turn into... more white

for most palettes

[tribal sorrel]

this is an insane palette map

[ripe lance]

you can make jotaro use the lightest shade for the white if you want

most palettes it's white or off white

green is like the only exception

[ripe lance]

jotaro with some base game colors

and 2 of my own

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/bepichars.6646/

they added the featureless protagonist from tower of heaven

[wraith trellis]

are these with the white bits mapped to the lightest green

or just left white

shit i could make an accurate RED team palette now

how do you import images into supers color picker tool

[tribal sorrel]

you ask super to make a custom page for you

[wraith trellis]

@ripe lance can you make a page for this heavy so i can try making a RED team palette

[tribal sorrel]

jesus the gibs

[wraith trellis]

yeah im thinking of redoing it when i finish jotaro LOL

its kind of gruesome and low effort

[tribal sorrel]

at that point just make his death sprite invisible and make custom gibs

for the kart

[wraith trellis]

i didnt know you could do that

[tribal sorrel]

it requires lua

i think

[wraith trellis]

but im probably gonna just sprite a new one where he does a more cartoony pose instead of exploding into blood

i only really did it so i could have every slot filled out

[tribal sorrel]

u can probably make it so when he custom gibs it plays the heavy death voice clips

[wraith trellis]

shit ur right

[ripe lance]

left white

it is kinda weird there's no death voice clips

https://superstarxalien.github.io/switchkaze.github.io/tools/smg.html

@wraith trellis

[wraith trellis]

thanks

[ripe lance]

@wraith trellis what do you mean beat all of ff7

what more are you going to do

[wraith trellis]

i said i needed to do it first

not that i need to do it first

which means that i did it already

🙄

[ripe lance]

ohhhhh

[wraith trellis]

this custom kart gig is kicking my ass

[wraith trellis]

jesus

i need blessings from 1990s capcom to figure out how to sprite this fucked up star

[wraith trellis]

Here's what I've got before I go to sleep

[ripe lance]

awesome

[wraith trellis]

Idk if I should try to follow the weird perspective of the template or just do whatever's straightforward

Or the hundreds of mufflers

[tribal sorrel]

you should follow the perspective best you can

thats why i didn't port pipe frame

[wraith trellis]

Because you'd have to redraw most of it?

[tribal sorrel]

yea

[tribal sorrel]

the perspective of the A3 here is the same as the pipe frame, which isn't accurate to the default kart

[wraith trellis]

Shit

[wraith trellis]

RED team color draft

[autumn trellis]

are these colors not already covered by a basegame palette? i wouldve thought strawberry would already have this

[wraith trellis]

it wasnt in srb2k

i dont know anything abotu the new colors in ring racers

[autumn trellis]

er. crimson. strawberry doesnt Exist i was thinking of rasberry and also i was wrong

dont you check your finished sprite against the palette sheet

[wraith trellis]

i didnt for heavy because he was a quick port job

oh i know

i think the issue is that raspberrys red is too saturated

[autumn trellis]

but on closer inspection it looks like you're right that this doesnt exist in base

[autumn trellis]

none of them both hit the pinkish and brownish darker reds

[wraith trellis]

i dont erally need the brownish part

but the red used is a sort of desaturated light red

but its still more saturated than something like rose or ruby

[autumn trellis]

its hard for me to tell that much difference from the lighter reds in rasberry and this but ill take your word for it

i do think the basegame colors couldve been like. distributed better

there isnt a single green that goes from the bright limes to the less-yellow greens. but we are loaded up on bright yellows to vomit greens

also: wow the gibs are pretty intense

[autumn trellis]

also also: all the koopalings' normal racing sprites are done. right now im doing the death sprite and then i just need UI and signposts. im sooooooooooooooo close

[wraith trellis]

ok heres why raspberry doesnt work

[autumn trellis]

i see

[autumn trellis]

havent actually posted the drifts yet

[ripe lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT78wM03b3w

[wraith trellis]

when you hear it youll shit bricks

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/desert-bus.7086/

[tribal sorrel]

morrigans turnaround sprites are all done save for hurt

[ripe lance]

!!!

[wraith trellis]

Awesome

I should probably get this template

[tribal sorrel]

this one is just asymmetrical

[wraith trellis]

I think me and casual koopa are in a competition right now to be exhausted by our own hubris

It's frustrating because I feel like I can't convey the shoebox shape despite having an understanding in my head

The idea of it makes me groan but I think I might have to just resprite it instead of trying to salvage the sprite I've already drawn

I do think at least I've got it proportionally better than the first draft

[autumn trellis]

aint that the truth !!

they do call me casual "hubris" koopa

[autumn trellis]

i think ring racers just messed with my entire computer somehow

i closed the game and just a bit later my screen went black while music (not from RR) was still going. after restarting, now everything is weirdly zoomed in and ring racers gives me a sigsev when i try to open it

[tribal sorrel]

sounds unrelated to ring racers

[autumn trellis]

i figured out the being zoomed in part, one of my windows settings got changed. i cant fathom How that happened, but i guess its probably not to do with RR. its throwing sigsevs at me now though so i cant play the game until its resolved

ive seen other games briefly change "the size of my computer" which is why i thought it was related. but ive never seen it Stay that way

[tribal sorrel]

it might be a graphics card thing

if you havent rebooted you should

it sounds like ring racers didnt like whatever happened with ur monitor and now it can't figure out what to do

[autumn trellis]

oh jesus my computer is Super freaking out. nevermind this isn't an RR thing

okay nevermind on all this. i think its calmed down. my laptop, like, Forgot Who I Was and put me in a factory settings background version of my computer, and it said "press Sign Out to try again" and then i did and it Seeeeeems to have everything back to normal
idk what would have caused that??? surely not ring racers??? Surely not. but also ???

[tribal sorrel]

sometimes pcs just fuck up

usually some background process

driver update

[autumn trellis]

ring racers chat i come to you in my hour of need

well almost my hour of need. i have to do UI sprites and stuff but its easier if i ask now. i come adjacent to my hour of need

is this a good idea

[ripe lance]

what am I looking at here

[autumn trellis]

the bits im choosing to be recolorable

[ripe lance]

tough question

[autumn trellis]

this is what ive always planned on doing but i worry it might be weird. a) because i cant change the shells, i dont have enough colors for that and b) its not exactly even. lemmy draws the super short end of the stick while the blue haired ones are feasting like kings

but also i think this is much nicer than just making their skin tone recolorable or somesuch

also i have no idea how larrys forehead got caught in the recoloring??? ignore that

ill get more examples rq

[wraith trellis]

making an insane custom color just so that each koopaling gets their respective hair color right

[autumn trellis]

yes

i think the more damning problem is that from the back its like

its not great.

and naturallythis is like The most important sprite

[wraith trellis]

i dont think its that big of a deal considering the green bits of the car and iggys hair are still prominent and those change color

[autumn trellis]

its not enough that id be disqualified or anything. but i think its unsatisfying

under this approach, the only other option i can think of is allocating two more colors to morton's skin. which would probably come from a) lightening ludwig's hair and b) sacrificing one shade on iggy

thats like the two options as i see them. or i could do something completely different like relenting and just using their yellow skin

[tough bluff]

peak will be back soon

[tribal sorrel]

if it were up to me id have it so just the clown car recolored

and i'd have stuff from teh mk8 car in the back to give it more visibly colored bits

[ripe lance]

yea i'm stumped

mit's idea is the most sensible one

[autumn trellis]

thats true. my little guys have the orange exhaust pipes from jrs clown car (which i could easily just make green for this one) but i dont Have them on this one yet

i worry that it might be a little boring? i dont want people to be disappointed when they find out they cant actually recolor the Characters

then again, operation "reallocate the budget to include morton's skin tone" isn't going so hot

[tribal sorrel]

the other alternative is their skin

[autumn trellis]

ignore the bits of the clown car that got caught in the quick recolor

its not bad. but i think id prefer the ability to change the clown cars rim without also changing all of their designs so drastically

[tribal sorrel]

maybe not their muzzles

then make a yellow/orange -> green customcolor

[autumn trellis]

my workspace isnt really set up for that right now but thatd be something like

really, what i should have done was have roy and morton facing the opposite direction. but we're waaaay past that point

i think just adding the mk8 exhausts is the right call

[tribal sorrel]

i am gods strongest soldier rn

[autumn trellis]

jesus theres the wing-hand-flaps and everything

[wraith trellis]

Holy shit

[tribal sorrel]

ok so

ive doodled her kart explosion opse

i dont know whats alloewd for nudity in this game.

[tribal sorrel]

i was given the ok

[autumn trellis]

you must accept This much morrigan nudity to be permitted the mario bros

[autumn trellis]

in which i discover that the koopalings' arms are too short to high five or hold hands while still keeping their faces legible

(also the mk8 models dont have individual fingers. ludwigs supposed to be pointing)

[tribal sorrel]

time to cheat

[autumn trellis]

oh no im just making them fist bump instead

i Could cheat but this seems no less fitting + it gives me more space for iggy

they're smaller than the actual driving sprites lol

[ripe lance]

i'm wrapped up with a huge update to followermaker and i need help testing it

https://git.do.srb2.org/Superstarxalien/followermaker/-/jobs/43399/artifacts/download

this adds .pk3 exporting

[wraith trellis]

wow

this gives it a 1 up over kartmaker

[ripe lance]

yea

if this goes well

i can in theory make it so kartmaker exports .pk3 as well

i don't know if kart krew would accept it but they better

[autumn trellis]

oooo

is it a setting? or does it just automatically makea pk3

sick

hm

[ripe lance]

aaaahhhhhhhh

good thing I didn't release this on the message boards

[autumn trellis]

this one Might be on me. i think "evil lemmy" referred to me hastiliy fixing something that went wrong as i was assembling it

let me try with one i know is reasonable

[tribal sorrel]

morrigan will be finished shortly if anyone wants to test

[autumn trellis]

hrm. same problem

these sprites appear to be the first frame of hitconfirm, from the 8 angles, one set with wheelshine and one without. (but its worth noting that im not using anything resembling kartmakers Special wheelshine so really its just the first two frames)

[wraith trellis]

sure but i only got 30 mins

[autumn trellis]

everything else seems to be in place

[ripe lance]

can i have your follower's folder

[tribal sorrel]

currently weighing whether or not i wanna use her mvc3 voice or her cvs2 voice

[wraith trellis]

i think the cvs2 sound mixing is closer

to the rest of the sound qualtiy of the game

idk what her mvc3 voice sounds like

[tribal sorrel]

shes got her scottish accent

[autumn trellis]

OH HI SORRY

@ripe lance

[ripe lance]

i see the problem

i don't really know how to fix this considering that this particular folder doesn't even work particularly well with the original followermaker to begin with

your follower just had too many animation frames for followermaker

[autumn trellis]

oh right this was one of the iterations with these weird names for more space

i dont actually. remember how the final versions worked

[ripe lance]

i say this then a lightbulb turns on my head

since I'm working with .pk3's that means the names for individual sprites can be longer than 8 characters

I'll think of something

[ripe lance]

not that this means the game will allow sprites that are over 8 characters

i'm talking about the means to have all the sprites without wonky name corruption going on

[autumn trellis]

oh right the new ones are like. they just declared hitconfirm separately. i should test new followermaker with one of those. if i can find one left over

[ripe lance]

the new ones i gave you were as a .wad

not a folder

that one flat out won't work with followermaker

unless you mean something else that i'm not remembering

[autumn trellis]

im going back through my files: im remembering now, what i did was i just did "normal followermaker without HC" and then "an entirely separate instance just for HC, using a different name." the final version was never all in a single folder so it doesnt make sense for me to expect them to be now

unfortunately it means i dont have good testing folders on hand

[ripe lance]

ok so I made it so that all of iggy's frames still get converted, but any frames past the 64th won't get used in-game; animations that use frames 65+ get cut to the 64th frame, or don't happen at all
https://git.do.srb2.org/Superstarxalien/followermaker/-/releases

i didn't really need to do this but i figured i would try and ship a product that isn't knowingly buggy

[autumn trellis]

hey, What ?? @ super

im pretty sure i had this same issue and i was told by kart krew that they dont really know the exact effects

[ripe lance]

speaking from experience

[autumn trellis]

could you describe your experience a little?

for me it was like. i kept some spraycans, and i think the number of spraycans i had were unchanged, but which cans they were got messed up. as did my challenge board. but once i collected 100, i had them all and there were no long lasting effects

also, some of the koopalings are taking this "smaller resolution" thing better than others

[ripe lance]

i have all spray cans but the track collectibles got reset

[autumn trellis]

huh. that sounds at least Adjacent to what happened to me

really hope the inaccessible lua thing gets sorted. i dont need it for the racer anymore but itd be really nice for my followers

[ripe lance]

.pk3 kartmaker

[ripe lance]

uploaded it here
https://git.do.srb2.org/Superstarxalien/kartmaker/-/releases

@tribal sorrel @wraith trellis @autumn trellis test this for me pls

[wraith trellis]

ok

[ripe lance]

there's a bug? that i know of so far

in random circumstances the program will fail to generate some sprites

causing the game to crash when loading the add-on

i don't know if this has to do with memory usage or with leaving slade open or what

or if it's something else entirely

idk

[wraith trellis]

alright

i used it on my heavy

seemed to work just fine

[autumn trellis]

hello i will do this

also

[wraith trellis]

heres the pk3 it made

[ripe lance]

awesome

[autumn trellis]

kartmaker looks to work fine with the casualkoopa folder

[ripe lance]

i guess it's long term testing that i need then

hmm

i mean it should all work fine i've already tested it in and out

there's just the bug i mentioned which i don't know how to replicate

or if it even has anything to do with my kartmaker

[autumn trellis]

by "random" do you mean "the exact same circumstances produce different results" or just "the circumstances seem arbitrary"

[ripe lance]

both?

[autumn trellis]

well i mean. unless there's two separate problems combining to cause this, presumably this is either "something exclusively in the folder causes the crash (therefore, a single folder will either always or never work)" or "Something Else is going on, such that the exact same folder doesnt always work"

[ripe lance]

it's the latter camp

[autumn trellis]

hmm. weird

ill try running my folder like ten times and see if they load differently

oh idk if this inherent to all -makers but if you run the same folder itll just replace the old one without asking

like, it doesnt make casual koopa (1).pk3, it just replaces the previous one

okay nvm thats consistent across all the -makers

[ripe lance]

yea

[autumn trellis]

used it 5 more times with the same folder and the results are identical

[wraith trellis]

do the cars have to match the perspective for a specific reason or is it moreso just stylistic consistency

[autumn trellis]

i think it just needs to be believable spinning around. for things like hurt or instawhip or the spinny things in launch base

[autumn trellis]

hrmgh

its a fair point

[ripe lance]

yea it's so they can look 3d

i'm not really sure why you're asking that

[autumn trellis]

feels really bad to have to redo so much of the signpost but i cant deny it looks better zoomed in

[wraith trellis]

im just curious because mit brought up how she didnt use the pipe frame because of the perspective

[ripe lance]

yeah it's because it doesn't match up with the new kart which is in proper perspective

[tribal sorrel]

yea

[wraith trellis]

do you guys think this has a better shape to it

if eel like im struggling w/ conveying that this bit is a thin flat area

im also not sure what the darker blue part next to the star is supposed to indicate

[ripe lance]

i think there's a kart in crash team racing like this

[wraith trellis]

i feel like it might mean its like

a rounded shape like in f1 cars

[ripe lance]

i would say that yea

[wraith trellis]

like how this part outlined in blue cuves into the car

[ripe lance]

oh no i wasn't thinking about that

i legit just thought it was curving downwards

[wraith trellis]

oh

[ripe lance]

and was roughly as thin as the door

[wraith trellis]

i see

what crash team racing were you referring to

[wraith trellis]

holy SHIT

[ripe lance]

nitro fueled

[wraith trellis]

sorry i mean what kart from crash team racing

[ripe lance]

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/crash-team-racing-nitro-fueled/6/60/Six_Pipes_V3.png?width=960

i don't actually know

there's several with small doors like this

[wraith trellis]

do you think making tghe top part at a stronger angle fits the shape of the a1 more

[autumn trellis]

to me that A1 reads like an extremely harsh forward angle

so yes changing the A3 in that way makes sense

[wraith trellis]

kart status

[autumn trellis]

did your srb2k jotaro have any version of car platinum or is this all new

[wraith trellis]

all new

https://youtu.be/7NVanakpYXQ?si=Z7_Zxfl2v72JWbdw

listening to this while drawing might be harmful for my mental health

[ripe lance]

i'm going to release the followermaker pk3 update now

i need a pun title for it though

[autumn trellis]

ive spent like 2 hours today listening to
off key
no not me
im a karaoke machine

first thing that comes to mind is like. "pk3 + 2". but thats not very funny on its own

also before i go any further on this
is this better? in concept? pretty much the only things that im planning that you cant already see are lemmy (pictured on the side) and having wendy lean forward more

shoutouts to this thing. the actual Evil Lemmy from earlier

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/followermaker-kartmaker-but-for-followers.6467/updates

followermaker pk3 update

[wraith trellis]

Girl hangout

[autumn trellis]

i appreciate a character designed to use the bi pride palette

is the rusty's character using maroon or an all red palette

[ripe lance]

rusty's character

[autumn trellis]

i forget the exact name of the show but isnt it rusty's something

[wraith trellis]

no its The Venture Bros.

mit is funny as fuck for posting a major venture bros spoiler to introduce dr orpheus in kart krew

[ripe lance]

@tribal sorrel kumatora is 7/4

not 7/3

[tribal sorrel]

oh is she

oops

its fixed

just not on the tweet but who gaf

i havent had much motivation to make followers which is annoying cus theres a few i really wanna do

[wraith trellis]

flying helper head

[tribal sorrel]

i was gonna do 21 and 24 in the stanza

[wraith trellis]

thats fuckin awesome

does 24 go "MY STANZAA" when you get hit

[tribal sorrel]

yea

question wheres the available chat colors again

is tealmap not one

[wraith trellis]

what chat colors

what is that

[tribal sorrel]

oh its aqua map

whatever

[wraith trellis]

what is this

[tribal sorrel]

stupid fucking idiot game

hotfix time

[autumn trellis]

super says its from the source code

[tribal sorrel]

actaully im gonna crap out a follwoer real fast

[autumn trellis]

its the color your name shows up as in chat

[tribal sorrel]

its-yea

[wraith trellis]

you can change that???

[tribal sorrel]

you choose them when you make a new customcolor

[autumn trellis]

its dependent on your palette

[wraith trellis]

ohhhh

[autumn trellis]

but theres fewer than 100 options so each palette has to choose one from this list

as opposed to being automatically generated

[wraith trellis]

anyone have a working designs signpost idea for jotaro

[autumn trellis]

does jojos have crabsticks

(that is, an infamously bad subtitle translation)

[tribal sorrel]

oingo boingo book obviously

anyway i posted hte hotfix

[autumn trellis]

oh nvm thats better

[wraith trellis]

fuuck how could i forget about that

i kept thinking of like

duwang or some shitty anime screencap

mit do you use a template that has a working designs space on it or do you just manually import the signpost

oh yeah this is captain falcons working design signpost

does anyone know what this could be from

[ripe lance]

some hanna barbera cartoon or adult swim

i guess

[tribal sorrel]

okay wait why the fuck does the prideflag load with an error saying transpride isnt a color

ugh its because

okay hold on

[wraith trellis]

the cape and cowl look like space ghost

[tribal sorrel]

these are issues literally exclusive to the .soc version which no one is using right now

[tribal sorrel]

is this not a character on harvey birdman

[wraith trellis]

thats what i thought but i cant really find anything with that weirdass bird hat

[ripe lance]

it's blue falcon from scooby doo

[wraith trellis]

awesome

[tribal sorrel]

whats the limit for extended rotations

12?

[ripe lance]

16

why

[tribal sorrel]

i am making the follower because i felt bad

[ripe lance]

oh ok

wega

[autumn trellis]

angling roy and morton turned out to be like. the secret sauce. the world is clicking into place now

[wraith trellis]

do i need to make the front taller

for a3

theres not enough space for the rectangle shaped gold bit to fit normally and im not sure if thats correct or not

considering the fact that the size shifts around with the perspective now

[tribal sorrel]

can you only do 8 frames or 16 frames

[ripe lance]

you can do inbetween

i think

you can do like A3 and A0 only

A0 gets used for everything except for A3

so yeah 1-16 frames

[tribal sorrel]

i had 12 frames and it hard crashed

[ripe lance]

hm

what frames did you omit @tribal sorrel

[ripe lance]

you forgot to add A0

[tribal sorrel]

i made a 16 frame version quickly

oh would that be like

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 A B

[ripe lance]

yea

the order doesn't matter either

[tribal sorrel]

kk

ok so they're not loading in the right directions now

what do

[ripe lance]

what does that mean

[tribal sorrel]

i dont know how to assign the angles correctly

using goombakart for reference its obvious the new angles need to be assigned Something

but its an asymmetrical rotation

[ripe lance]

oh ok

let me pull up the guide

[autumn trellis]

its not 1 2 3 ... a b. its like 1 a 2 b or somesuch

[autumn trellis]

ill go find it if super doesn-which he did thanks super

[tribal sorrel]

this helps ty

so wait

do i need 0 here?

like what does 0 represent

[autumn trellis]

0 is the failsafe

[tribal sorrel]

that means that 12 frames doesnt work

[autumn trellis]

well like.

[ripe lance]

i think 0 is a fallback angle

uhh so maybe you do actually need to fill the remaining 4 frames lol

[autumn trellis]

it would in that you Can do it, i think. but it probably would be bad

because it'd fill in "diagonal back left" and "diagonal right inbetween" with the same failsafe

[ripe lance]

"girlpack is a funny name for a pack with Mario and Luigi"

from another server i'm in

[autumn trellis]

but you could Presumably circumvent that by just reusing actual frames that are adjacent to them

[tribal sorrel]

ok i think its working now

if anyone wants to play

im uploading the 3.1 hotfix

[wraith trellis]

Fuck I'm going to a water pump rn

[ripe lance]

womp womp

[tribal sorrel]

ok its up

i did it

r we playing

[autumn trellis]

i could

@ripe lance are you available

[ripe lance]

yip

[tribal sorrel]

wat am i loading

[ripe lance]

gimme a se

c

[autumn trellis]

let me throw my standalone koopa wad at you so i can go back to playing myself without any socs

or pk3, actually. thanks super kartmaker

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/d00dpack-returns-v1-1.6578/

d00dpack update

[autumn trellis]

i wont have iggy, but such is life

[ripe lance]

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/kirbybabyluigi-pack.6621/

gba rainbow road for the culture

holy shit

the new follower

[autumn trellis]

which follower is holy shit

[tribal sorrel]

ok well kirbybabyluigi pack loads with errors

i will try just rainbow road

???????? so does doodpack

whateve

r

SO DOES SUPERMETAL????????

why does every stage load with errors

supermetal

rainbow road

doodpack

is this my fault somehow

[ripe lance]

uhhh

i blame this on kirbybabyluigi

i got the same error as well

[tribal sorrel]

im gonna not load rainbow road

[ripe lance]

yea

[tribal sorrel]

supermetal and doodpack both have errors

whatever

[ripe lance]

what

how

[tribal sorrel]

IDKI!

[ripe lance]

i think you cursed me or something i don't remember seeing this in my life

[tribal sorrel]

ill load the stages from the bottom up

then girlpack

[ripe lance]

cuz i'm getting the errors too it's not only you

[tribal sorrel]

supermetal still errors

[wraith trellis]

Good news everyone

[tribal sorrel]

and drb

[wraith trellis]

I'm done pumping

[autumn trellis]

supermetal does not give me an error when i load it first. i have not loaded luigi thing yet

[tribal sorrel]

so yea its just whatevers in it

[wraith trellis]

On my way home

Ill be ready in like 18 mins

[autumn trellis]

im a little frightenend that kirbybabyluigi is gonna poison my ring racers files but we'll see

[ripe lance]

okay

okayokayokay

the error in supermetal is intended

i just remembered

sorry for the scare

no clue about kirbybabyluigi or d00dpack though

[wraith trellis]

[autumn trellis]

unfortunately, discord invites working with SMG has not cured my problems with mit's

[wraith trellis]

Sorry I'm just blessed

[autumn trellis]

smg can you post hornmod so mit has it for next time

[wraith trellis]

yes

do yuou guys think chariii5 yellijng about hotel mario would be a good horn

https://youtu.be/vAlCaOWWLZo?si=J3IMRpQ_byDv4mxi&t=143

[autumn trellis]

this is like the same joke as the macho man thing i proposed but i like the idea of THEY TOAST [flame shield sound] DUMBASS

[wraith trellis]

they need to add multihorns back so badly

[autumn trellis]

i wonder if i could open up the lets go gambling mod and put a different sound
i dont think id use it in our server because i dont think we all have One sound we'd agree would be funny for it. but in singleplayer id like ONE BILLION MOBIUMS for every ring box

[wraith trellis]

five hundred cigarettes.

[autumn trellis]

alive or otherwise

[wraith trellis]

im surprised the lets go gambling mod doesnt play the loud ass casino jackpot noise

[autumn trellis]

anyway, tomorrow this gets finished for sure
then i just need the UI icons and the working designs sign

[wraith trellis]

@tribal sorrel heres the latest version of my horns

[autumn trellis]

well i think mit also needs the actual hornmod

[tribal sorrel]

did you put my stanza in this

[wraith trellis]

yea

i added that one a while ago

heres where my stanza is

and heres all the ones i added after that

do you guys think the story of gilgamesh told in ancient sumerian is a better name for that horn

[wraith trellis]

wait i just got two really good ideas for horns

[wraith trellis]

i feverishly added two horns

[ripe lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1232826914956378122/1258260348042219560/ringracers0035.webm?ex=668765c4&is=66861444&hm=cfaa141547f42eed2d7a53ca35e13cc99c0a7cff5cc2698c3d5aa11052efddb8&

[ripe lance]

can anyone help me out with the colors for this

i'll be going 2 bed now cya

[tribal sorrel]

something unholy

not right

a demon

[ripe lance]

oh my

[autumn trellis]

i dont really know what im looking at

[ripe lance]

ice road