#F-Zero

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brittle basin
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Nintendo's hit racing series from the far future! (no new games for 20+ years)

frozen quest
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Dead series

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With no games

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yep

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What’s a good point to start with F-Zero

brittle basin
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me (stupid) deciding to become an f-zero fan Now when its last major release was 2004

frozen quest
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Just the SNES one?

brittle basin
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well

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what got me into it was playing f-zero 99

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i could never actually really Get into snes f-zero

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but the multiplayer in 99 helps motivate you to actually care about the gameplayt

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otherwise you can basically just hop straight to GX

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f-zero is a very iterative series where each subsequent game improves on the foundation from the last

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X is probably worth checking out but its too slippery to my liking to take an interest

half plume
brittle basin
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nintendo only made two of them

half plume
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yep

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which is why when they make another f-zero game they'll change shit up

brittle basin
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cant wait for that to happen in 2053

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that actually reminds me

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do you guys think a hypothetical new f-zero game would redesign the characters

half plume
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yeah

brittle basin
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or just like

half plume
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i mean not too much

brittle basin
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follow up on what X did

frozen quest
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I think they would probably go for a Star Fox Zero type redesign

brittle basin
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would they change mr EADs name to mr EPD

half plume
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they'd retire him and introduce mr. epd in his stead

brittle basin
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it would be crazy as shit if mr epd is the luigi counterpart that got turned into ship parts

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and then turned back into an android

frozen quest
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Do you think they’d use the Smash design of Captain Falcon

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Or go for something else

half plume
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the smash design is the gx design but realistic

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so they'd go with something else

brittle basin
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actually

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the smash design is mostly the X design

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the only design element from GX is his shoulder pad

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speaking of captain falcon i really like his OG design

frozen quest
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It’s a funny design

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I’d want to see it again in a new F-Zero

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maybe they could have him pilot a 16-Bit Blue Falcon or something

brittle basin
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he could just be an alt costume

half plume
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what even is the point

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you don't see these guys in the actual game

frozen quest
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The point is that it’s cool

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And I want it

brittle basin
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someone who i actually wanna see get redesigned is dr stewart

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or rather get his design reverted

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his snes design is more appealing to me

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his GX design is kind of gaudy and his X design is just boring

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the anime design is kind of interesting but ive nver watched the anime

frozen quest
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He looks like glass joe

brittle basin
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hes supposed to be a highly respected doctor and arrogant womanizer

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i like his OG one the most because it makes him look like a jerk but also the most like a normal race car driver

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while the other three racers have some other thing they do for a livingn like bounty hunting or being an assassin

frozen quest
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I like his face in the later ones

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Do we ever see Falcon bounty hunting

brittle basin
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yea in this ocmic

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its awesome

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he does a western quickdraw and takes down a mafia boss

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i get the appeal for stewarts face in the later games but a lot of his later appearances also give him weird proportions and stupid hair and clothes

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his smash melee model is pretty good though

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i think his more youthful appearance in snes fits his womanizer persona more

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even if hes still in his thirties at that point

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samurai goroh is really funny because he basically doesnt change at all for any of his appearances

half plume
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i like that samurai goroh was gradually given a wife and kid

brittle basin
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yeah its cute

half plume
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even if both of them don't appear in the same place

brittle basin
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its funny that his smash bros appearance implies hes not even good at using a sword considering he just flails it around wildly

brittle basin
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GUYS

frozen quest
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Yeah

brittle basin
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I GOT MY FIRST GP WIN

half plume
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where is the audio

brittle basin
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thats an issue on ur end

frozen quest
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Congrats

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Also I have no audio

brittle basin
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wtf

half plume
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get owned

brittle basin
half plume
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nope

brittle basin
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wtf

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so why can i hear it

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on multiple devices at that

shell shale
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I can hear the audio

brittle basin
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This is gonna be a very SMG thing of me to say but I think it would be cool if they took inspiration from real life marathon races and had the racers starting out away from their vehicles and they have to bolt to their machines and dodge everyone's attacks to start driving

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It'd be a good way to merge the smash Bros combat connotations f zero has with real life racing

brittle basin
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The arranged jazz album as a whole is really good but this and sand ocean are my favorites

shell shale
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Been too busy to play F-Zero 99 lately but I do want to get back into it lol

brittle basin
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I've been playing it a little too much for my own good

shell shale
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Yeah i can definitely see that

brittle basin
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Actual insane theme for a character who doesn't do anything

half plume
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that's all of the characters in this game

brittle basin
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It's true but like

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Isn't don Genie from GX

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He doesn't even have any additional lore in X or anything

half plume
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yea he's from gx

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but he does have lore

brittle basin
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I mean yeah

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But it's just "he's a mob boss and controls trade." And nothing else

shell shale
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Tried to play it again, didnt end well today

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Only got up to 38th place and also didnt finish any grand prix lol

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I tried the shortcut thing in red canyon 1 too but damn thats hard to pull off when 473626 other people are pushing me off the ramp

brittle basin
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I think my fav GX track is AX green plant

brittle basin
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They gotta do something with these characters man

frozen quest
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1,000 Years of Smash Bros Trophies

brittle basin
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This theme makes blood falcon sound like the coolest version of the "evil player doppelganger" Nintendo archetype of all time

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I would hope that in a new game they carry on the same spirit from GX to give each character their own emphasis

brittle basin
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Potential best music and CGI cutscene pairing ever made

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I wonder how like

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The cgi cutscenes were even made

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Did they outsource them to a different studio

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Because the models are pretty drastically different from the in game ones and the ones used in promo material

brittle basin
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F zero gx is a game with a lot of very questionable voice acting but I like mighty gazelles voice

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@visual forge you're right.. this guy is pretty alright

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Mr zeros voice is also pretty good

brittle basin
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Mighty gazelle feels crazy as shit to play as

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His machine is made of wet paper and controls like it's on ice but when you boost it basically flings you across the track

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It's awesome

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I think I still prefer blue falcon but red gazelle is very fun to use

visual forge
brittle basin
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Yeah as you increase the difficulty in grand prixs the questions you can ask the racers become more personal

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I was also wrong when I said mighty gazelle is a guy wearing a robot suit

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He's basically a brain piloting a robot body

visual forge
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SMG, what about your critics

brittle basin
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Btw the reason Mr zero asks this question is because there's in-universe controversy around mighty gazelle being allowed to race as a mechanically enhanced human

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Which is why gazelle answers that his win is from his skill and not science

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It's funny though because no one has a problem with Mr EAD racing as an android

shell shale
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Fucking hilarious lmao

brittle basin
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Crazy to me that Vinny mains the golden fox

shell shale
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I thought golden fox was meta

brittle basin
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Kind of

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But it's very difficult to use and can be easily countered by other racers that aren't the golden fox

shell shale
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Yeah i tried it and it was hard to use

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Its just i see so many people online just go with either golden fox or fire stingray

brittle basin
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@half plume what machine do you use in GX

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Because I'm struggling really hard on mute city 2 with the twin noritta

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And you've said you can't beat mute city 2 at all

half plume
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i ragequit gx remember

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all i used was the blue falcon

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there's a million billion cars and idk what exactly it is that would have given me the control i wanted

brittle basin
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Do you just like

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Fling yourself off the track at jumps

half plume
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yeah

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and other times i just fuck up on a turn

brittle basin
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I struggled with that initially

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At the first jump ramp thing you can get away with tilting your stick upwards to dive towards the track

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At the big jump at the end you shouldn't tilt the stick at all

half plume
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of course not

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what even is the point of tilting downwards

brittle basin
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It increases your speed by a LOT

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It's very good for small jumps but bad for big ones

half plume
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i mean the stick downwards

brittle basin
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Oh right

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That's to soften the landing

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You do it just before you land

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If you do it after leaning forward you'll go at optimal speed

half plume
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huh

brittle basin
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It's very weirdly specific though

brittle basin
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I really like how GX makes it so you can win a GP without getting first every time

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It makes it feel less video gamey

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If you can place consistently good or just focus on killing your rivals you can end up getting first overall

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Feeling relieved that you managed to get 5th place is a really good aspect of a racing game

brittle basin
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The gp legend Gameboy advance game is actually pretty good

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A lot more fun than super circuit is

shell shale
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Finally survived a mini prix all the way through in F-Zero 99

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i had just stopped for a while so when I came back today, wasn't expecting that to happen

brittle basin
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What machine have you been using

shell shale
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fire stingray

brittle basin
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Do you normally just crash out or do you die via ranking out

shell shale
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ranking out usually

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i know how to survive mostly but yeah

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sometimes im a lil slow

brittle basin
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Do you know about blast tapping

shell shale
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nope

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what's that tech?

brittle basin
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Basically when you're making a turn while leaning with the stingray you mash the accelerate button to make a tighter and faster turn that keeps more of your speed

shell shale
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oh i have to mash ???

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does that also work when making tight corners?

brittle basin
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Yea that's it's whole purpose

brittle basin
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Its better to say you just have to repeatedly tap

shell shale
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thats really neat

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i have a lot of trouble making the right corners

brittle basin
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Any tracks in specific you struggle with ?

shell shale
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mostly the red canyons im struggling with atm

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they have a lot of tight turns

brittle basin
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I'll try out the tracks with the stingray when I get home but at least for blue falcon I've found it effective to swerve out and then cut into the off-road as hard as possible at the first right turn and then boosting once you make the left turn right after

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When you get to the hairpin right turn after you should still be boosting but as long as you release gas while leaning you should be able to make it

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You do know that you're supposed to let go of gas while making leaning turns right

brittle basin
brittle basin
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Green plant spiral is brutal on hard difficulty

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It's like the enemy drivers don't have energy meters and can just boost when they want

brittle basin
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@half plume you NEED to try driving the wonder wasp

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It's the most fucked up vehicle of all time

half plume
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maybe if i feel like dying in mute city whatever it's called 5 times more

brittle basin
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Have you still not figured that track out yet

half plume
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uh no i told you i deleted the game

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immediately after the fact

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still haven't touched it

brittle basin
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Oh I forgot

half plume
shell shale
brittle basin
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wtf