#General Mario Lore

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clear remnant
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What do you think happened to beanbean

latent thunder
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A civil war resulting in the nation splitting into two

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The green beans and the baked beans

toxic halo
grave birch
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true but there is some wiggle room

toxic halo
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well imo it's not really "all over the place"

at least for the most part.
I think the only things to really go crazy are like SPM (lots of really important world lore) and Yoshi's Island DS (really stupid, poorly thought out lore).

Usually the lore is pretty grounded (because stories are simple and self-contained)

grave birch
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wanna know the worst contender?

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manuals

latent thunder
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Mario likes the chippy, eats haggis, wears kilts, plays bagpipes and gets on it every Friday night

chilly hemlock
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Mario's body temperature is at a constant absolute zero.
This temperatue was caused due to extremly resistant cooling systems located in the skin.
A side effect of this is Mario attracting all nearby forms of poisonings into his skin, and cancelling
them all out. This is why the Castle Waters are so clear, and that's how not a single person on the
moon got starch poisoning. Most of the poisons cancel each other out, and the few that aren't,
are oblitirated by Mario's mysterious immumity system. Not much is known about it, other that it
runs on extremly condensed gravity fields with range that just barely reaches Mario's muscles.
The ability to resist even the most schorching of heat gives some unique properties to the plumber.
This includes his shoes melting and molding back into the body upon contact with water in all 3 states,
imediate almost physic defying rebound upon contact with hot molten objects and points of heat,
extreme administrations of pain upon making contact with sharp objects at a high velocity,
conjuring new substances into the world (glohm, darkmess, supamerge, dark, you name it),
alteration of the nearby light beams changing the perspective of the world, and under rare conditions,
invisibility. The isolation system is made out of a matter yet to be named, that has it's normal temperature
just slightly above absolute zero, but due to prolonged inactivity, eventualy, atoms stopped moving,
resulting in absolute zero, that suprisingly, made this temperature irreversable.

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This is why mario does not feel cold in cold worlds and thirsty/hot in hot worlds.

grave birch
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The fuck

chilly hemlock
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as much of a shitpost as this looks like, this is probably as logical of an explenation we can get surounding mario not following physics

clear remnant
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Mario Pinball Land is one of the franchise's strangest games. Stranger still is its desert world boss--the Egyptian Koopa. Or is it King Tut? Or Tutankoopa?

CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:52 It’s Pinball!
04:52 The Pharaoh’s Name
07:05 The Power of a Name
09:06 The Mummy’s Curse
11:20 New Name, New Me
15:21 Interludes
16:27 Closing Thoughts
19:59 Outr...

▶ Play video
chilly hemlock
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He can stand still in the platformers in the middle of some freezing water and not budge

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For the 3d games he finaly develops sensory responses

grave birch
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You're looking too much into the developers simply not adding that

chilly hemlock
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Yeah, but it's fun to fill in the gap with whatever makes even the slightest bit of sense

devout nova
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What's the policy here on that one Bananza leak? I have something on my mind about it

toxic halo
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we've discussed it heavily in #mario-spinoffs

devout nova
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Maybe it's already been discussed but, I'm wondering how this girl found her way to Ingot Isle

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Especially if they're sticking with the Metro Kingdom being roughly north of DK Island

toxic halo
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Yeah you can see what seems to be New Donk City in the distance of Ingot Isle during the zoom out shot

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so I do think Ingot Isle is super close to it

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I am definitely really curious how the girl got there

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was she visiting the island? did VoidCo seek her out?

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Why would VoidCo seek her out?

devout nova
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Assuming this IS the 3D Mario team which it likely is, it feels so nice to have pretty solid continuity between Mario subseries with them

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I hope they can fit in some nod to Jungle Beat since they developed it, to bring it closer to the rest of DK's world

nocturne ice
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I like SuperMarioLogan even better because Mario is a dad because he taking care of Jeffy that very cool

balmy hollyBOT
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@nocturne ice referenced the forbidden word 'supermariologan', breaking a streak of 23 days, 22 hours, 26 minutes, and 55 seconds.
I'll wait 30 seconds before warning you for this word again.

nocturne ice
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What

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Wait no I didn’t made it

nocturne ice
balmy hollyBOT
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@nocturne ice referenced the forbidden word 'supermariologan', breaking a streak of 6 minutes and 54 seconds.
I'll wait 30 seconds before warning you for this word again.

nocturne ice
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Wow that was quick

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SML

icy yacht
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do you think the mario universe works on a sliding timescale?

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we see multiple nintendo consoles across the games from the NES to the switch and such

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but it's implied that while the mario games take place over a course of years, it's not too many years as characters don't noticeably age

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unless you're a kong for some reason

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if you're unaware of what a sliding timescale is, here's an example

in the marvel comics, earth-616, the fantastic four got their powers 15 years ago. the year is 2025, so they got their powers in 2010
2020, they got their powers in 2005
2015, 2000
2010, 1995
2005, 1990
and so on

toxic halo
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personally I see it more as a rapid advancement of technology in Mario's world.

That in-universe Nintendo has created and released games and systems much faster than irl.

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but I do think it could have a sliding timescale.

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all of MK8's dates on brands are 2014, but I'd imagine World will have some that say 2025

obtuse grove
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Its a me

rare topaz
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If banjo and conker are in diddy kong racing and are cannon to the world of dk, does that mean the banjo games and conkers bad fur day exist in the world of mario?

lusty jackal
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Are gameboys genuinely that thick

toxic halo
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no

lusty jackal
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Ok phew

rare topaz
toxic halo
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it's like half as thick

rare topaz
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I’d say more like 3/4ths

toxic halo
# rare topaz https://tenor.com/view/banjo-kazooie-video-game-banjo-kazooie-gaming-gif-1658440...

We don't know the status of the connectivity of Rare games.
BUT Diddy Kong Racing is canon to the Banjo world, as referenced in Nuts n Bolts.

A few members of Rare have said on Twitter that they're not conencted. I believe Gregg Mayles said they were never supposed to be connected (I don't believe this is true). But we can't take former Rare staff's word because they aren't in charge of that. And even Rare today isn't in charge of the internal view of Nintendo.
Diddy Kong Racing DS does not feature Banjo or Conker, but that's due to licensing stuff, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
The Banjo-Kazooie reveal for Smash Bros shows DK & Diddy being familiar with each other, but Smash isn't canon to Mario, and it's also very meta, so who knows if it means anything.

Personally I would think that Nintendo doesn't see them as sharing a world (anymore), but there's no official statement.

rare topaz
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I like to think they’re in the same world😇

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It would be pretty COOL if they were

toxic halo
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TL;DR
We have no idea about Nintendo's view, but Rare sees them as being connected (at least as of Nuts n Bolts)

leaden hemlock
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i can't imagine nintendo would see diddy kong racing as "canon"

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they don't even own anything about that game other than diddy kong

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and krunch

toxic halo
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yeah

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it's hard to imagine a day in which Nintendo references Diddy Kong Racing in basically any way

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like even just ignoring what "canon" means for Mario, it's one of those things that will just never be acknowledged.
And any actual acknowledgement would be so surface level that it wouldn't matter.

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unless they straight up bring Krunch back for some reason

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that would be wild

icy yacht
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i've always seen the DS version being the definitive canon version given that banjo and conker are excluded

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although the presence of tiptup is kinda strange

scenic meadow
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that did include Dixie and Tiny in it to further out the DK connection

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so?

devout nova
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Something to think about

toxic halo
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it sounds the same as her other songs imo

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I do think she'll have a credits song as an adult or something though

devout nova
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Maybe this goes into spoiler territory, but does Donkey Kong Bananza really change anything about how we understand the nature of wishes in the Mario world?

toxic halo
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Not that I'm aware of

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I think it would also depend on the wish granter

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like the star spirits would grant things with grace, while a force of nature may interpret a wish more literally or not be careful about how the wish is granted.

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so when it comes to Bananza ||I'd imagine the Banandium Root is more of the latter.

The wish for bananas/surface turned into a frankly quite destructive and dangerous tower of bananas that drilled through the entire planet.

The Star Spirits would not do that||

maiden steeple
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There is no Mario lore. The lore simply contorts to fit the situation of the game’s story

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That’s my (sarcastic) answer to solving the Mario lore problems

light pawn
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Something about the Mario Lore that REALLY confuses me is Small Mario. In some games, Mario downgrades to a smaller form upon taking damage, but he doesn’t in others, just losing health with no shrinking. I honestly can’t figure out the lore reason behind thismarioThink

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I forgot to mention that this applies to other characters

toxic halo
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there's not really any lore reason, honestly.
It's a very gameplay-first concept

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it's half a gameplay abstraction, but it's also literal in the games it exists in.

slender fractal
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The mushrooms just give him extra strength

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Hence the ability to bust bricks