#Illumination Mario Movie
plain apex
It’s more that the devs never make the games with that in mind
fossil bison
this shit doesn't look like donkey kong
it looks like mario
sorry if I'm channeling dk vine a bit too much by the way
frigid ingot
is that what dk vine thinks
fossil bison
rare already made a sufficiently interesting world for dk fans
it's natural they want that and not some weird hybridization
i say hybridization but this is really just a mario jungle
urban root
kremlings are here but like yea the environment is mario
frigid ingot
either way it's still connective tissue
fossil bison
obviously no one is gonna deny that donkey kong and mario are connected
but there's reasons why that wouldn't be preferable
i think
i don't actually know
plain apex
For the games I think it works to keep Donkey Kong’s world feeling distinct
frigid ingot
i'm not arguing that dk's world doesn't feel distinct
urban root
i think the newer shit and the movie are establishing more of a space for DK that's both how he looks in his games and in mario's games
like the park and hte film
and i guess the legos now too
vital viper
Power tennis was awesome for unapologetically just putting Luigi's mansion and warioware and donkey Kong in the same game
fossil bison
the new jungle island in the movie
sucks
now like
i don't want to give you a whole like
urban root
its what everything is going to look like now wrt dk
frigid ingot
yeah but it doesn't look all that different from what returns and onward look like
fossil bison
the elements they made for dk's new location are kind of more interesting than anything nintendo's made with dk since lol
urban root
yea
frigid ingot
not really a fan of kongs living in temples
fossil bison
yeah
the temples in the original dkc were cool because they were connected to something else than just monkeys
fossil bison
they were connected to something at all, I should be saying
in retro's games they're nothing
they just exist
there's also natural reasons for mines to exist in donkey kong country
even though the kongs don't appear to have a society the kremlings do
plain apex
The Retro games make the world feel cohesive in a different way
fossil bison
and they appear in the mine levels
so they're maybe the ones that built the mines!
it's small nuggets of narrative like that that made dk fans fall in love
and nintendo isn't really doing the same which is
well, contradictory to the supposed dk rumor
plain apex
The Kongs being a whole society works for the movie I’d say
And if the bananas are powering the Karts then you’d assume they also power their other technology
Which gives K Rool a better reason to steal them other than wanting them to starve
urban root
bananas have been weird and possibly magical even back during rare
fossil bison
also the new dk island sucks because it doesn't look like dk's head
a huge island with a stone carving of a monkey's head
is badass
plain apex
Yeah but how the fuck does that even get made
Like is it natural or was it carved
fossil bison
it could have been carved
plain apex
It’s a massive carving I’ll tell you that
urban root
i like the idea of the kongs just being a small family of gorillas and not a whole tribe and they're just so ridiculous and powerful that they hold their ground every single time
frigid ingot
yeah monkey people suck
urban root
only they also dont give a shit about much of anything so they dont really expand or grow their "domain" either
they just chill
its not interesting for an actual narrative because hteyre reactionary but on their own it owrks
plain apex
I guess in the movie most kongs are chill somewhat
And ones like DK are the “heroes” or whatever
urban root
i dont think theres any way to know yet
it seems like its just a society of a bunch of different people
rather than it being how it is in hte games where thats literally their personalities
plain apex
The idea of DK being a future ruler works better here than in the show where he’d be ruling over like 8 people
Since that was going for the community aspect like in the game
urban root
well him being a ruler at all is made up
beyond him just being the tribe leader
which is fine if its just a couple of people
its more of a king of the jungle type deal
plain apex
I see
fossil bison
as far as I understand it actual donkey kong fans are fine having it either way
plain apex
Reminds me that that was the “plot” of Jungle Beat
fossil bison
i don't have much of a preference myself
i do want to see what nintendo thinks about it...
plain apex
He just wants the Tikis to piss off
urban root
hes clearly some kind of defender for the rest of the animals that live there
plain apex
TF takes it further by actually having a successful invasion that he needs to undo
urban root
ironically TF frames it more than R as it just being They took his house
plain apex
Wonder how a movie Crocodile Isle would be depicted
fossil bison
honestly good question
if a dk movie gets made there's gonna be kremlings one way or another
plain apex
Their only similarities are being enemies and reptiles
urban root
And thats enough!
plain apex
Yes
frigid ingot
i wouldnt mind if they teamed up or had some interaction
urban root
yea
fossil bison
i don't because i don't care about bowser and k rool teaming up
plain apex
I’d rather them fight
urban root
could be how they bring everything together after mario and DK aer both established in their own movies
fossil bison
the mcu
urban root
yea
fast elbow
yeah i was thinking that as what "mario 2" would be
somehow a koopa troop kremlings movie
idk
if k rool is somehow a really awesome movie villain it could be dope
plain apex
What if they introduce airships
Like if Bowser’s flying castle is grounded and they need an easier way to get around now
urban root
it feels very thanos in a way i dont know if i like
or i guess loki is more correct
i feel like i dont know what all k rool and bowser would do together that isnt like, something like paper jam
where its just Wow two bowsers!
plain apex
But one is flat
fossil bison
actually both of them are
plain apex
Honestly why even crossover two sub-series in the same genre anyway
That’s like if Mario Picross and Dr Mario crossed over
urban root
fanservice
fossil bison
my guy
plain apex
Which they hardly did any of anyway
fossil bison
have you not watched a marvel movie
dreamy tartan
It’s like that one 90’s LT short where they arbitrarily had every main Looney Tunes cast member for no reason than the novelty of it
plain apex
My point was muddled thinking about it now
frigid ingot
just now remembering that we all thought dk was included only per the origin story
not because he's just part of the muhroom world
fossil bison
i still think that's the case
plain apex
Yeah but not explicitly like the arcade games
urban root
it feels like a hard but intentional retelling of the arcade game
urban root
given the design of the arena
urban root
considering it now solves the biggest problem that most mario lore heads continue to make bad excuses for
that being cranky being "young" circa DK arcade and now geriatric circa DKC
fast elbow
i feel like, despite Cranky being his dad solving everything, they aren't gonna touch the arcade stuff at all
because it's like
mario's meeting DK Jr. as Donkey Kong so there's no real connection to the arcade stuff
the fight will have dk arcade homages but it's not really addressing the "lore" yk
fossil bison
you might be jumping the shark
i still think arcade donkey kong will be the opening act of the movie
urban root
id be a little surprised
white jungle
Id prefer if they just use this instead of the “original DK is cranky” thing for the games
fast elbow
You could honestly make it work
urban root
original DK is still cranky
like, the only major immediate changethe movie seems to have made is like
jr is DKC DK
fast elbow
in the movie if mario doesn't fight cranky as a character named "donkey kong" then it doesn't really matter, yk?
urban root
as opposed to jr being DKC's dad
white jungle
original DK is still cranky
Im not denying it but the whole timeline of events is just sorta confusing
plain apex
Which is honestly fine
white jungle
Like i feel the baby dk in yoshis new island is supposed to clearly be the current DK
fossil bison
Like i feel the baby dk in yoshis new island is supposed to clearly be the curre...
forget about baby dk
plain apex
It means they don’t have to explain where the hell DK Jr went
urban root
the DK lineage is only confusing because theyve never explicitly drawn the line from jr to DKC
its cranky, then jr, then DKC
fast elbow
i still think arcade donkey kong will be the opening act of the movie
I would love if you were right and that's why they've been avoiding it - You could write it so Cranky is the first person who goes through the pipes from the mushroom world to the real world and fucks up the construction site, and then later on mario meets them again and it's like "woah holy shit now I get it"
urban root
baby DK is DKC
white jungle
So then that must mean him and mario are the same age?
Unless there is time travel shit involved
urban root
sure
fossil bison
i think they're just avoiding it so they can have it as a surprise
fossil bison
we don't know what foreman spike looks like still
vital viper
Tbf I don't think Yoshi's island DS has any effect on actual Mario continuity
fossil bison
it does not and anyone who brings it up is too deep in
plain apex
The consequences of prioritizing gameplay over story or lore
vital viper
Unless you count baby wario as citation for Yoshi's island DS being canon, actually
Because he's in Dr Mario world
(lol)
urban root
i mean this one isnt even anything this is just a misunderstanding
its just like
circa DK arcade, all 3 would need ot have been born, meaning cranky is already older, jr is an adult, and DKC is Somewhere... Alive
fast elbow
i think they're just avoiding it so they can have it as a surprise
i personally think they won't address Donkey Kong (arcade) as a thing that happened in new York. i think the first scene is bowser terrorizing the penguins, he gets the star, "who's gonna stop me?" then the super mario bros. plumbing commercial. Donkey Kong (arcade) will have references in the Kong Arena and Mario and Cranky won't have any history
(illumination initial trailers tend to just be one of the first scenes)
if i'm wrong i'd be hype, i think mario and cranky having history is good comedy
fossil bison
i think
before the bowser scene it shows mario's early life and the donkey kong arcade events
fast elbow
and also i like the idea of there being an inclination about another world existing in mario's world already, a hint of the pipes
fast elbow
aaah but i thought about that for a bit and its like
first off jack black says the plumbing commercial is first 5 minutes
fossil bison
hm
plain apex
I’m sure someone’s gonna allude to the pipe
fast elbow
second off, "who's gonna stop me?!" is such an obvious introduction to the characters who will eventually stop him, mario and luigi
fossil bison
yeah i can see that
fast elbow
that's already how they set it up in that initial trailer
"who's gonna stop me?!" (mario shoots out the pipe)
urban root
apropos of nothing but the trailer using the music from the commercial makes things look that way yea
plain apex
Plus the Mario theme notes are taken from the super show anyway
So it’s a perfect lead into the Mario Rap-filled commercial
urban root
we know now in hindsight that it is actually the commercials/super show rendition
fast elbow
i just think hoping for DK arcade to be new york in the movie is over, which is whatever im kinda over it at this point
urban root
yea if it happens id be surprised
if not for the fact that we see how mario and luigi get taken through the pipe id think that the one leak saying they meet the kongs in the sewers was onto something
fast elbow
for sure
this sounds maybe ridiculous but i wouldnt be surprised if that was an early draft of the script? it did get taken down for copyright
and mario and luigi were separated
white jungle
Wouldn’t they need to show the events of why spike fired them before going straight to the plumbing business part
fossil bison
yeah
white jungle
At first I thought they were gunna use arcade dk for that
urban root
i think theyre not gonna get fired theyre gonna just quit because spike is a prick
fossil bison
why show their earlier job
white jungle
And the name “Super mario” came from him being dubbed a hero by the city
fast elbow
reread spikes line, spike is mad that they left him to make their own plumbing business
plain apex
Saying why Spike fired them could be an easy flashback
fossil bison
without actually showing it
fast elbow
he says they have no loyalty
plain apex
Or simply having Spike be in a scene mentioning that in past tense
urban root
yea spike establishes that they are plumbers
oh i see what you mean
if we're cutting directly to them post-quitting
where does spike happen
fossil bison
why mention that mario and luigi quit their earlier job if their earlier job does not matter
fast elbow
spike's trailing them throughout the whole movie, duh
plain apex
He’d be in a scene during the present day, pissed
That’s why one of the reviews on the website is his
urban root
Oh i have super reacts now
plain apex
And then he’d show up in the ending to find out that they did be super
Because at the most he’d be in the movie for like 3 minutes
fast elbow
bowser scene -> mario plumbing commercial -> it cuts to Spike watching it on his tv, snarling
we're so back
fast elbow
he's ranting to his roommate (pictured) about what mario and luigi did to him
urban root
the entire theatre when spike looks over to his new coworker who's a really tall skinny guy with a mustache
white jungle
That fact that we would then be able to say waluigi is in the mario movie would be crazy
fossil bison
this theory is so aweosme
fast elbow
bowser scene -> mario plumbing commercial -> it cuts to Spike watching it on his...
i really really like this idea, i was always imagining the plumbing commercial would lead into a scene of mario and luigi watching it and being like "ehhh? what do ya think?!" sorta like the 1993 movie where luigi and mario have a conversation about the theory about another dimension with dinosaurs while the news is on
frigid ingot
what if spike turns into wario and then in the next movie he kidnaps luigi and turns him into waluigi
fast elbow
but itd be so much funnier if it cuts to foreman spike instead
dreamy tartan
Waluigi is green. Purple Eggplant Man is green. Get the hint?
fossil bison
what if spike turns into wario and then in the next movie he kidnaps luigi and t...
this is the new mr. l
fast elbow
theres this fancomic where wario and waluigi are roommates
and itys awesome
and i cant find it
fossil bison
the one where they're like an old married couple?
fossil bison
it's so good
fast elbow
i didnt know there was a page 2 and 3
i just always liked page 1 as what i think their characterization should be
fossil bison
what the fuck is mario doing there in page 3
dreamy tartan
that’s what mario would like to know
frigid ingot
he was visiting
fossil bison
i just interpreted it as like
wario was cheating on waluigi with mario
but wario still liked waluigi more
idk
peak pulsar
and then in the 2nd film they go back and forth like it's nothing
fossil bison
this is heavy on references i don't know it seems
i only really remembered page 1 as well
fast elbow
pretty sure these aren't any references
they're just worried their followers wont know who waluigi and wario are
white jungle
They would own this
peak pulsar
that aspect makes stuff like that child Toad in Mario RPG super cool.
"I'm practicing jumping so I can be just like you when i grow up" or whatever he says
peak pulsar
Holy Frick there are hours more of conversation, I can't keep reading all this dang
fossil bison
because we're all mariopilled
but taken seriously it is stupid so it should never be
dreamy tartan
they're just worried their followers wont know who waluigi and wario are
It’s tongue in cheek
They’re treating it as though it’s a reference heavy comic when it’s not
white jungle
Surprised the toads can even jump that high with those legs
urban root
framing marios ability as just a form of real world acrobatics and parkour is close to the heart of what makes mario cool
fossil bison
i suppose so
vital viper
I like whenever they come up with a silly reason why Luigi jumps higher
urban root
itd be dumber if the movie made a point of like Yea you can jump really high here!
as opposed to everythings the same but this is a culture of people who have spent thousands of years being accustomed to floating blocks
of course theyll know how to jump
but mario being trained in it more focused than your average mushroom kingdomite is what makes him impressive
plain apex
The people who really want a normal toad Town tend to miss that detail
urban root
i feel like it just doesnt really come up
im not a huge fan of the movies world design for toad town
it leans a little too heavily into the idea that blocks and platforms are everything that goes on
i like it being used for construction and stuff
vital viper
It's just annoying to me that all the toads look the same
urban root
yea i hate that shit
fossil bison
and the super hell hill trees
vital viper
Otherwise I'm reasonably content with how it looks
urban root
its definitely very informed by modern mario design conventions
fast elbow
bustling city toad town, idk, i like a more homely locale for them
but it's acceptable
peak pulsar
You guys mentioned DK Vine earlier. Don't remember exactly what was said, but it was on the topic of what they think of DK in terms of Mario.
They don't like DK being part of Mario's world. They think it's fine for the movie, but they believe that in the main continuity, DK Island is an island off the coast of real world Western Africa. To them, DK lives in a different world than Mario and should be separate because of that.
They headcanon that DK takes a warp pipe to Mario's world for spin-offs
fast elbow
i like the clear pipe system
plain apex
Is this because of Banana Day 24
fast elbow
the amount of colored pipes all over is kinda ugly
plain apex
Or because DK has more real world stuff
Which is because that’s what the direction is with those games
urban root
yea i think its fucked they managed to make a pipe system like
not at all visually interesting
theyre just tubes
fast elbow
i like your idea for the pipes but i feel like that's So Long Gone
white jungle
You guys mentioned DK Vine earlier. Don't remember exactly what was said, but it...
How did dk even meet mario then if they’re two separate worlds
peak pulsar
They have these crazy headcanons to explain lol
fast elbow
clear pipes for traversal makes a lot of sense to me i like how they do that and clear pipes have always been elegant since they were introduced
urban root
the most fucjed up thing to me was how iirc that entire bigmess of a pipe system is like, not embedded in any walls or anything
fast elbow
rly?
fossil bison
it is
urban root
they completely missed the purpose of them being pipes when mario is himself a plumber
fast elbow
i found this during the Jumping convo but actually it means nothing, for some reason i remember reading this as like them literally jumping up the side of a building - across those walkways that im blanking on the name rn
plain apex
I guess for the Toads it’s easier to see what pipe to go into if you can see how it leads to the exit before entering
urban root
btw dont these reviews suggest they move back to brooklyn
sturdy dirge
:jawdrop:
urban root
palutena but shes just a green haired millennial from aueens
fast elbow
btw dont these reviews suggest they move back to brooklyn
i believe mario when asked on the Q&A says they'll never leave home
they love it too much
plain apex
That’s more likely a dramatic irony type setup
white jungle
they completely missed the purpose of them being pipes when mario is himself a p...
I think they kinda tried to nod at the connection with mario saying “oh wow love these pipes” because hes you know a plumber
urban root
was that from before or after the update
white jungle
But thats it
fast elbow
after the update
urban root
dayum
fast elbow
its the chat
urban root
guess brooklyns sticking around then
peak pulsar
How did dk even meet mario then if they’re two separate worlds
I believe Hyle's current story is that...
Mario, who grew up in Brooklyn, went on vacation with Pauline, and ended up in Big Ape City (an islet off the coast of DK Island, which is separate from New Donk City).
Young Cranky was there at the time, kidnapped Pauline, and fought Mario.
Pauline eventually moved to Mario's world and founded New Donk City, based off of the events that occurred in Big Ape City in the real world.
Hyle is the owner of DK Vine btw
fast elbow
also the directors of the movie say mario has immigrant parents
urban root
Yay
fast elbow
will the parents show up, prb not, but i imagine there'll be mentions of family
which means.. wouldnt leave them
fossil bison
mama mario is mentioned on the website
plain apex
Maybe Mario’s dad has a dedicated scene idk
fossil bison
mentioned
fast elbow
yeah mama mario gives them a review
fossil bison
there's dialogue from her more like
white jungle
Actually seeing marios parents is crazy to think about
fast elbow
i kinda want their mom to show up and be over protective
fossil bison
i hate it because they would look ugly
urban root
the martinet cameo!!!!
fast elbow
but not their dad i want their dad to remain a mystery
peak pulsar
Foreman Spike is their divorced father
plain apex
Because that might be the obvious pick for the Martinet cameo
urban root
everyone in chat when the final nail in the coffin is marios dad walking in and he looks like jumpman
fast elbow
mom being shown is comedic potential but dad showing up is like Lore I like all the speculation people have about his dad still
peak pulsar
everyone in chat when the final nail in the coffin is marios dad walking in and ...
I would delete my Discord account and leave the internet
fossil bison
remember mario motors for the nintendo ds toony
plain apex
What if he looked more like Luigi
frigid ingot
why do they have to look so similar to mario and luigi
white jungle
What if he looked more like Luigi
There was a fake ai generated leak of marios dad that just looked like luigi lmao
peak pulsar
What if he looked more like Luigi
Luigi in those photos in Mona's bedroom that are obviously Luigi
Mona is Luigi and Daisy's child obviously guys, it makes so much sense
fossil bison
what do you suggest shouty
fast elbow
everyone in chat when the final nail in the coffin is marios dad walking in and ...
they fixed DK's lore but fucked mario's lore
😭
frigid ingot
more normal-looking people
fossil bison
you're boring
vital viper
Jumpman works well as Mario's dad
fast elbow
vital viper
He's got Luigi's chin but you could see how hes also related to Mario
plain apex
Luigi in those photos in Mona's bedroom that are obviously Luigi
Mona is Luigi a...
Wario grandfather theory when
fossil bison
honestly
fast elbow
i assumed this was mario reviewing his own website
white jungle
Their dad
fossil bison
before the site updated i thought their job was just gonna be like
shittily reviewed
fossil bison
so the update is weird to me honestly
fossil bison
then when were these ones made
peak pulsar
the newer ones are after they've got their stuff together
fossil bison
when is that
fast elbow
you actually got me thinking about casual clothes Palutena being in this movie
super
and mit
and im like
peak pulsar
casual clothes Palutena is gonna be in Smash Bros
fast elbow
thats so ridiculous but if punch out characters are supposedly in the background then ???
fossil bison
they already referenced punch-out...
vital viper
The only ncu characters should be black box nes characters
fossil bison
i don't buy that by the way
fast elbow
the kid icarus music is SO peculiar too
fossil bison
we have not seen them
vital viper
We need more punch out and balloon fight and excite bike
white jungle
The only ncu characters should be black box nes characters
True
fast elbow
i don't buy that by the way
well i honestly imagine chris pratt has no idea what he's talking about
and just thinks the punch out pizzaria means there's punchout characters there
vital viper
Mario sees star man from pro wrestling and that's how he comes up with the name starman Mario
white jungle
Theres gotta be scene of mario an luigi in punch out pizza with how they keep bringing it up
fast elbow
🙄
peak pulsar
and just thinks the punch out pizzaria means there's punchout characters there
yeah that was my first thought
vital viper
You're right. Actually this reminds me of the fact that they have sprixie kingdom power-ups in the mushroom kingdom. 😹
fast elbow
my punch out pizza theory is chris pratt is half right and there happens to be pictures of famous boxers that have visited there on the wall
peak pulsar
I think it's pretty funny how an incredibly abundant item like the Super Star is this all powerful ancient relic or whatever
plain apex
and just thinks the punch out pizzaria means there's punchout characters there
You’d think he would know what he’s talking about and probably does considering he read the script
fast elbow
well visual gags like little mac being in the background wouldnt be in the script
vital viper
Like he visits the pizzeria and he's like "sup glass joe, you'll get em this time"
peak pulsar
"Look Luigi, it's Bear Hugger from Super Punch Out"
"Yeah Mario, and here's the Sandman!"
plain apex
I mean they kinda would
plain apex
I think it's pretty funny how an incredibly abundant item like the Super Star is...
I guess the movie conflates it with the power stars
fast elbow
Like he visits the pizzeria and he's like "sup glass joe, you'll get em this tim...
ok that'd be awesome
peak pulsar
but even then power stars are pretty abundant
fast elbow
ok i like this idea guys
vital viper
Debate: would Mario and glass joe be friends or enemies. Reasoning for enemies: Mario is Italian while glass joe is French
fast elbow
mario doesn't discriminate
plain apex
Oh shit you’re right
white jungle
What if mario being a referee is one of his odd jobs he did
Before plumbing
Because he did that in punch out
plain apex
That’s possible
fast elbow
who is princessofQueens
you know they had Queens right there in the name and she's the princess of queens
queenofqueens
fossil bison
well they'd only have princess on their minds because of peach
frigid ingot
its a joke either way
urban root
its true this is just the wario theory but more insane
fast elbow
thats the intention
it made me lol
I think I'd be mad if Spike showed up and he looked like Waluigi
fast elbow
my friend DavesToons' theory
i like the workaround you both tried doing for Wario and Waluigi's pointed ears
like lmao
urban root
iirc dude mentioned how in some of the games spike has like pseudo pointed ears so i think theyd opt for that instead of the full on elf ears
fast elbow
i see
fast elbow
they're rounded but still raised and not like mario and luigis
i think even if wario had nothing to do with spike they'd probably still soften the elf ears
seems in line with the other redesign decisions, esp for Luigi
urban root
yea
fast elbow
New lore: Wario and Waluigi are elves living in the Mushroom Forest, hence their ears and shoes
The other people in Wario and Waluigi's species look exactly like this
urban root
christ
im trying to imagine a world where we got that instead of spike = wario and how everyone who thinks that spike = wario ruins the character would feel about this
vital viper
Sucks about as much to me
I like wario being inexplicably a regular dude who just looks weird
fast elbow
Well explaining the elf shoes is actually so stupid that nobody would come up with that
white jungle
Yea the elf shoes are probably just from the design philosophy of: triangular character designs = more evil looking
Idk if the mushrooms kingdom is secretly housing some kind of hobbit race lol
plain apex
The other people in Wario and Waluigi's species look exactly like this
Lario
vital viper
I thought Mario and Luigi were the superstars
fast elbow
That explains everything
stark igloo
had an incredibly fucked up dream that the mario movie leaked early and i was watching it with my parents and it was actually a divorce musical where mario and peach had a child and split up (they sang about it) and bowser swooped in to kidnap peach and the child while mario was visiting from the “real” world
plain apex
What do you think the extent of what music the OST pulls from will be
Like if you think it’s mostly gonna be platformer stuff or if it’ll go further than that
urban root
theres already stuff from captain toad so honestly i have no clue anymore
plain apex
It’s technically Galaxy but yeah
urban root
i mean
plain apex
It’s his theme
plain apex
True
urban root
i think itll mostly be the popular stuff
or things nintendo wants to keep around as notable theming
as far as spinoffs go i dont anticipate any music from like, the RPGs
plain apex
It would be neat but yeah me neither
sturdy dirge
Mfw mario and luigi reunite fighting bowser and superstar saga battle music starts 🙀
plain apex
There’s only so much they can really use anyway since I’d think they’d also want a fair share of original compositions
vital viper
Me when foreman spike appears on screen and I hear greenhorn forest
peak pulsar
most obscure songs are probably gonna be DKC songs
maybe Wrecking Crew for Brooklyn segments
or even Punch Out music in the Punch Out Pizza Parlor
plain apex
Going off of that new ad, ||Little Mac is just pictured on a portrait||
||Which I’m honestly thankful for since that means the scene isn’t taking any attention away from what the focus is, that being introducing the Bros||
||The way Pratt framed it made it sound like the punch out cast was there in person||
white jungle
Hope they atleast give a better shot of the portrait tho
livid stream
why does everyone try to dismiss the two negative Mario movie reviews
livid stream
No I can understand trying to be positive but instead of ignoring it they find a reason like “maybe he’s not THAT big of a Mario fan”
urban root
its because there was no reality where people were gonna take that sort of thing on the chin
theres nothing thatll break the hype for most people about this movie to the point where any potential negative factors are going to be dismissed outright
its whatever if someone wants to just See the movie and be chill about it but i think inevitably being in a space like this is gonna turn out that way
fossil bison
can someone post the review here I have the mario movie channel removed
frigid ingot
it's just a few tweets saying that they're underwhelmed
it's not even that negative
urban root
most of what ive heard is that It's a mario illumination movie and you can probably expect to know what that would be like
i imagine the people who've spent the last year of their lives decrying that it will be more than that have a lot on their plate right now
vital viper
both negative reviews are basically 'yep. its an illumination movie. not much substance outside of mario references being jingled on screen"
urban root
get ready for the wave of people saying it's miserable garbage clashing against people saying its the best movie theyve ever seen for the next 2 years
vital viper
thats already what discussion of the movies been for the past two years
whats interesting to me is all the reviews that go out of their way to praise pratts mario
livid stream
Maybe negative wasn’t the correct term
white jungle
get ready for the wave of people saying it's miserable garbage clashing against ...
Sonic Movie 2
urban root
yea
white jungle
I dont like how mario fans are following in sonic fan’s footsteps with this movie
Overhyping anything they see
dreamy tartan
Is that what Sonic fans do???
urban root
i would say what you are describing is the opposite of what happened, at least with most sonic things, like the most recent movie
peak pulsar
get ready for the wave of people saying it's miserable garbage clashing against ...
we need a new game ASAP to get people talking about something else lol
urban root
actually just in general sonic fans tend to be disappointed when sonic, a franchise that appeals to children... appeals to children
vital viper
my only opinion on movie 2 is that it shouldve trimmed out some of the quipping going on
i get its a kids movie but it was a little hard to stomach
white jungle
Right before sonic movie 2 came out i saw alot of people doing the same thing people are doing to negative mario movie reviews rn
Just completely dogpiling on anything that wasn’t positive immediately
urban root
for what its worth sonic 2 also had more to worry about than mario does
vital viper
yeah its a sequel and its further from the source material than the mario movie is
white jungle
Feel like that was more sonic movie 1 but i see what you mean
vital viper
and ironically also tried to more closely follow the source material
urban root
sonic 1 set an example
vital viper
what would the super mario version of the sonic 2 movie poster be
urban root
there was more skepticism with the first movie but ultimately the final film was better than expected
but it had very little to do with sonic as a greater universe
2 spends basically its entire runtime fixing that
peak pulsar
thw main part that bothered me about the Sonic Movie 2, when I saw it recently, was Sonic dancing to uptown funk.
Like it feels so un-Sonic to have it have so many random pop culture references, and then an entire scene where he dances to a pop song.
I did like the scene in general though, and idk what song they could've used instead though, so idk.
it's what makes it feel less like Sonic and more like a movie with Sonic in it.
peak pulsar
I don't think it makes it bad, but it paints a picture of what the film is
peak pulsar
what would the super mario version of the sonic 2 movie poster be
SMB1 japanese box art probably
or SMB3 key artwork
livid stream
Bonding over uptown funk in a bar
fossil bison
with weird stereotypes from a movie you'd watch in the 80s
bitter acorn
No I can understand trying to be positive but instead of ignoring it they find a...
i read a few of the negative reviews and the way they are worded just kinda seem like it’s lemme find the smartest words to negatively phrase how generic the plot is. i saw a review mention how the music was bad and i’m just wondering from what we’ve heard how anyone can consider. no hate to the negative reviews at all i’m not ignoring them or just turning a blind eye to em but ya know i’m just kinda happy this movie exists, has some great music, great visuals, and just is pretty good to me overall ! i think we should all just have some fun with this movie and that’s how i’ve gone about it since i knew about the making of it 
vital viper
for added effect add duck hunt to the bottom of the poster
peak pulsar
SMB1 japanese box art probably
vital viper
i hope duck hunt dog is in this movie.
urban root
from what i understand, as ive gotten older i've become a lot more perceptive to how fandom twists the source material as you go deeper and deeper down its rabbit hole
white jungle
No one should even be worrying if this movie ends up being a 7/10 its not like we’re not getting any more mario movies after this
Its destined to make bank
peak pulsar
we probably are
urban root
you start to deny the given thing for what it is
urban root
and that's how you end up losing the core of what you're actually a fan of
bitter acorn
if they ever did a movie where brooklyn was a main plot location i’d like it if they recreated this box art for the movie (it’s never happening but i like this box art is pretty cool)
urban root
a lot of recent sonic stuff tends to bounce off of older, more experienced fans, because it's for kids, and it ends up hitting a lot of snags that are just... things that appeal to kids
shit that's cheesy and stupid to us, as adults, is just... fun. for people who don't give a shit
vital viper
just make them mario enemies instead of mario bros ones and add bowser or something in the background
bitter acorn
yes !
urban root
i saw blowback to the sonic netflix show even, something i thought was cute and fine but bounced off a lot of people just because it wasn't The right thing
vital viper
yeah sonic prime was weird because its like. what did you expect
urban root
a weird offshoot of this is happening with mario, only it's more just raw defense
it can't be stupid and fun and corny, because it's mario, it's Epic
reviews are coming out and Wow, who would've guessed it's an illumination film with all the trappings
peak pulsar
Sonic Prime I never expected to be that great, but I ended up getting pretty bored as it went on. Maybe season 2 will capture me more idk.
I liked the first few episodes but then it was kind of a chore to watch. And I only watched 1 episode a week.
white jungle
It sucks because you can tell the prime creators were trying to satisfy those type of sonic fans in some way while still staying a fun kids show
urban root
it's not terrible. it's not even bad. it's fine and it'll be fun to watch and it'll be more fun if you can pick up on all the little details
vital viper
alternate universe where sonic prime is exactly the same but they hired sprite artists
urban root
but it's a kids movie
urban root
just dont take it serious
livid stream
Mario movie flashback scene
fast elbow
can someone post the review here I have the mario movie channel removed
the negative reviews seem to be "shallow plot" and "jokes that aren't funny"
its funny the reviews basically just sound like reviews of the trailers
vital viper
Mario movie flashback scene
im imagining now the ratatouille flashback scene but when it zooms into the critics eyes it just shows the mariojump gif
peak pulsar
I hope there's a dance number. Cause I actually really like those. I doubt it'll happen though, from what we've seen.
Seems like it's weirdly on the cusp between fun goofy kids film and film that takes itself seriously.
bitter acorn
i’m sure we will see a dancing scene during bowsers song
the koopas and all are having a party
vital viper
the credits are gonna be do hte mario
bitter acorn
hope they do the bah
vital viper
and peach will pick up mario and kiss him on the mouth .
peak pulsar
I want Thrills at Night dance scene
white jungle
I hope there's a dance number. Cause I actually really like those. I doubt it'll...
Idk to me the only parts it seems like its trying to take itself seriously on is the action scenes
Everything else is what you would expect
livid stream
yeah with donkey kong flexing his pectoral muscles
bitter acorn
😭😭😭
white jungle
Forgot about that
bitter acorn
made me laugh more than it should
vital viper
hopefully theres a scene in the movie that leads to someone unironically making a mario version of this image
peak pulsar
I think the plot falls flat possibly in part due to trying to be a semi-serious film. Like it doesn't commit to one way or the other.
The directors want to make it feel like you can die in this universe. Yet there's a bunch of cheap jokes in it as well. So it's this odd mix.
Not saying it can't be good, but I think it's probably a bit all over the place, without giving enough focus to each of the parts
livid stream
Animation is Cinema…
vital viper
ill wait for someone to make a mario "animation is cinema" image and then edit the text to just say Condemned
fossil bison
they're called octonauts but only one of them is an octopus
vital viper
well you know how the x-men are called the x-men even though only one of them has X in their name
fossil bison
yea and not all of them are men
peak pulsar
ill wait for someone to make a mario "animation is cinema" image and then edit t...
that outta do it
vital viper
that outta do it!
peak pulsar
never noticed they sign the sign lol
vital viper
this should be the one hotel mario reference in the movie
peak pulsar
I wonder if they actually have the authority to declare a building condemned
vital viper
at the end they close off the mushroom kingdom warp pipe and put this sign to block it off
white jungle
Theres so many easy references you can make with hotel mario theres gotta be something in the movie
peak pulsar
4D experience.
The Mario Bros enter the theater and lock you inside
vital viper
this should be the one hotel mario reference in the movie
oh and also "No."
bitter acorn
never noticed they sign the sign lol
if you tweeted this i can only imagine the replies you’d get
fossil bison
nintendo would chop their livers if they did a hotel mario reference
vital viper
well
peak pulsar
4D experience.
The Mario Bros enter the theater and lock you inside
the last thing you hear before you are crushed by a wrecking ball is a faint "that outta do it!"
vital viper
zelda already referenced morshu
bitter acorn
oh and also "No."
all toasters toast toast i like that one
fossil bison
there's a lot of plausible deniability in that one smg
peak pulsar
nintendo would chop their livers if they did a hotel mario reference
they've referenced the Super Show and the live action film, so I don't see why not
vital viper
when did they reference the live action film
fast elbow
links awakening remake references the Link He Come To Town song and no one knows
fossil bison
wait really
peak pulsar
logo and the tools in that poster
bitter acorn
logo is a mix of mario font and movie font
peak pulsar
links awakening remake references the Link He Come To Town song and no one knows
HALLELUJAH
fast elbow
vital viper
the top few hotel mario lines i think could fit into the context of the movie would be the previously mentioned stuff + "and YOU gotta help us!"
fossil bison
oh this
peak pulsar
hahaha
vital viper
maybe also "when you pinch wendy's pennies, they pinch back!"
fast elbow
one of the dungeon maker missions is "Fill Up Your Hearts" which is a lyric from the song
vital viper
you could easily recontextualize that for foreman spike
vital viper
"YOU gotta help us!" could be changed a little for a mario bros plumbing ad
bitter acorn
the top few hotel mario lines i think could fit into the context of the movie wo...
would luigi just slowly turn to the audience and point at us saying that as the penguins in the cages stare at him like ??? im imagining it and laughing so much
vital viper
just a little change to "And YOU gotta call us!"
peak pulsar
they enter the sewers and it's dark.
"Did you bring a light?"
"no"
"oh wait, I have some in my toolbox"
white jungle
oh and also "No."
Unfortunately they cant make that reference since he did bring a light this time 💔
vital viper
mario to toad: Nice of the princess to invite us for a royal meeting, eh toad?
fast elbow
the reason i bring up the Link He Come To Town reference is nerds working on the movie who are aware of western memes can easily slide jokes in that skirt by and NoA employees are prob down for it
peak pulsar
Bowser sends a letter to Mario via a Swoop.
"Dear pesky plumber"
vital viper
kneeling down and praying that one hotel mario reference somehow seeps in
the nightmare outcome is that bowser has his sourpuss bread in the background of like one scene
fossil bison
the movie will feature a rendition of little plumbers
fast elbow
luigi's socks escaped mandate ok we're gonna make it
peak pulsar
the movie will feature a rendition of little plumbers
playing in an elevator
maybe the elevator down to the sewers
vital viper
"Nice of the foreman to invite us for a promotion, eh luigi?"
livid stream
Plumbing School where
vital viper
"get off my cloud" could be used for the mario kart scene
peak pulsar
The houses being on docks in the Jungle Kingdom might've been inspired by the DKC cartoon.
But Japan was always a pretty big fan of that series so I'm sure they'd be willing to let references like that be in the film.
vital viper
just replace cloud with road or kart or something
livid stream
My bad guys it’s actually Plumbers Academy.
vital viper
if hotel mario doesnt get into the movie im gonna make a hotel mario cut of it
frigid ingot
that's a musical reference though
white jungle
"get off my cloud" could be used for the mario kart scene
I love that line so much idk why its so funny to me
peak pulsar
just replace cloud with road or kart or something
Mario is saying it to Toad, who a Cheep cheep just latched onto
hey you, get off my friend!
vital viper
when there's smoke..... (collects fire flower).... There's fire!
bitter acorn
this entire movie but it’s just hotel mario line references
vital viper
and YOUU
livid stream
oh cool
peak pulsar
where's there's smoke, they pinch back
urban root
me
peak pulsar
imagine if they referenced Big Beat Mario
vital viper
you know what they say! all pennies pinch back!
dreamy tartan
zelda already referenced morshu
They what
fossil bison
in hyrule warriors age of calamity it was
vital viper
yea
fast elbow
vital viper
We gotta save the princess! And YOU Gotta get off my cloud!
livid stream
peak pulsar
Breakfast scene at the Bros' house.
"Hey pops, did ya fix the toaster?"
"Yep! Ya know what they say, all Toasters, toast toast!"
urban root
to be honest if theyre willing to reference to virtual boy in jest im sure hotel mario and other CD-I shit is fine to loosely call back to
peak pulsar
Breakfast scene at the Bros' house.
"Hey pops, did ya fix the toaster?"
"Yep! Y...
and then Luigi will say "or, is it the bagel?"
urban root
its just so much of it is like non sequitur bullshit so its hard to make it work
bitter acorn
what’s the obscurest thing this movie can reference
fossil bison
virtual boy is different, they did actually make it so someone would feel some fondness for it
white jungle
I feel like nintendo wouldn’t even catch onto it honestly
peak pulsar
that Japanese exclusive DS Mario card game
fossil bison
hotel mario isn't even in japanese
peak pulsar
neither is the Super Show
fossil bison
that Japanese exclusive DS Mario card game
mahjong
fast elbow
nintendo jp would never catch a hotel mario thing but NoA employees would be down
vital viper
did japan even know about hotel mario
vital viper
what’s the obscurest thing this movie can reference
marios dad in that one random ass artwork wheres hes got a beard and blue and yellow color scheme
fast elbow
i imagine nintendo had to have it explained to them what the super show theme was
peak pulsar
Japanese fan stumbling upon a Hotel Mario YTP "what is this bootleg Mario cartoon??"
livid stream
did they know about the super show
urban root
the dic stuff is still being sold i think
peak pulsar
Nintendo knows, but I doubt casual Japanese fans know
fossil bison
let me see if I can get it
fast elbow
i think the japanese employees in charge of things rn probably wouldnt know, maybe vaguely
vital viper
the most obscure thing the mario movie can reference is anything thats outside of the mainline mario to mario kart range.
urban root
i mean i guess theres literally no use even debating the validity of the DIC stuff it's literalyl in the film
peak pulsar
Yoshi Topsy Turvy, or Touch and Go is my answer
vital viper
no shot in hell warioware will be in this movie
bitter acorn
marios dad in that one random ass artwork wheres hes got a beard and blue and ye...
do you like that design
vital viper
sure
fossil bison
vital viper
i think he looks too much like mario though
fossil bison
japanese text
fast elbow
https://c.vxtwitter.com/vgartandtidbits/status/790068600258396160?s=46&t=IQ5nDON...
interesting!
vital viper
these storyboard doodles are fun
bitter acorn
i like this guy
fast elbow
adorable
frigid ingot
these seem more like beatboards but yeah they're cool
peak pulsar
i like this guy
love how his eyes are out of line
white jungle
Imagine if marios dad just has no facial
fast elbow
i think mario's dad should have those colors
bitter acorn
i’d like it if he didn’t have yellow color shirt though
fast elbow
i feel like "whats the most obscure thing they could reference" is lame
fossil bison
i don't wanna see or hear anything about mario's dad because there's a nonzero chance he actually appears in the movie
peak pulsar
i think mario's dad should have those colors
"actually he should have red overalls and be nicknamed Jumpman. Isn't it so cool for Jumpman to be Mario's dad? I love that theory"
fast elbow
because there's obscure shit that sucks balls
vital viper
maybe the most obscure thing they would reference is anything that happened during the development of a mario game
or a glitch or something
fast elbow
what would be the most COOL thing that would prove their MARIO FAN CARD
that they could reference
what would get the biggest 1 up world stamp of mario fan approval
peak pulsar
Plum from Mario Golf
fast elbow
for me it's Ignorance is Bliss
vital viper
like sure they'll reference marios head being big but will they acknowledge the mushroom double jump or something along those lines
livid stream
Wouldn’t it be so MARIOLICIOUS if they reference the BLJ (Back Wards Long Jump) in the movie❓❓❓
urban root
ignorance is bliss is probably the actual deepest possible cut without getting into like obscure japanese shit that counts for less
bitter acorn
the super show rap was the one thing i truly wanted referenced in the movie so my wish was granted and i am happy
peak pulsar
"Now son, let me tell you about an old technique I used back in my carpenter days... The backwards long jump"
fossil bison
vital viper
foreman spike was already my 1-up world certification card but im scared for his fate
fossil bison
The deepest cut.
bitter acorn
HES NOT WARIO
fast elbow
the fact ignorance is bliss is official is whats obscure abt it and i think thats awesome
white jungle
what would get the biggest 1 up world stamp of mario fan approval
1up world reference
vital viper
nintendos been wathcinbg me in secret so my 1-up world stamp of approval will probably manifest in the movie when i least expect it
bitter acorn
bizarre
urban root
the fact ignorance is bliss is official is whats obscure abt it and i think that...
true i had to remember this about it
fast elbow
mario motors is the company in mario kart nowadays right
peak pulsar
"Hey Luigi, you using Discord again?"
"yeah, I'm talking about the latest Punch Out movie on the TKO-World server"
fossil bison
mario motors is the company in mario kart nowadays right
yea and it came from some excitebike or truck game on the snes
fast elbow
really??
livid stream
what about this
peak pulsar
Mario's mechanic outfit is from Famicom Grand Prix
vital viper
"honestly mario, i dont agree with the casting choice. they shouldn't've casted urban champ to play little mac. feels a little weird."
peak pulsar
and it has a Mario Motors logo on it in Odyssey I think
fossil bison
nevermind my bad
mario motors is from mario kart 8
but the artwork is from famicom grand prix
white jungle
what about this
Yea peach with brown hair would be pretty weird to see again
fast elbow
mario motors in mk8 is a callback to the cancelled mario motors game tho thats kinda fucked up
vital viper
the deepest cut they could do is the german mario comics where he fights street fighter characters and wario makes a deal with satan
bitter acorn
deleting that cuz it flashes too much
urban root
genuienly i feel like ignorance is bliss is still king
fossil bison
mario motors in mk8 is a callback to the cancelled mario motors game tho thats k...
well it's a kinda generic title so not really
bitter acorn
goku in my mario movie ?!?!?
fossil bison
the first in-game appearance of mario motors is in mario kart arcade gp
urban root
everything else thats been mentioned still gets shared around pretty commonly
vital viper
i have to remind myselfg all the time that ignorance is bliss isnt the flash animation
fast elbow
ignorance is bliss is just a genuinely really good piece of official mario media
its such a well written song
peak pulsar
yeah it's great
livid stream
what about this
Specifically from the Super Nintendo Korean Ad
fossil bison
my favorite obscure official mario thing is the official arrangements for super mario world and super mario land
fast elbow
im thinking of stuff that only mario freaks like us would be impressed by that i'd smile at
urban root
my favorite obscure official mario thing is the official arrangements for super ...
thats on the level actually
peak pulsar
Go Mario Go
urban root
ambassadors of funk and ignorance is bliss are probably toe to toe
peak pulsar
it will play in the credits
fast elbow
that reminds me that Super Mario 30th Anniversary orchestra never got a CD and there's only an iphone recording but there's a vocal version of piranha plants lullaby
🥹
vital viper
something that would impress me is luigi getting luigis mansion 1 motifs instead of generic spooky music
peak pulsar
ooh nice. I haven't listened to the full concert cause od the terrible audio quality, but it's so cool
white jungle
They’re gunna reference this
livid stream
Mc Mario
urban root
thats going to happen if they care to make it luigis mansion
but i dont think they will
since i mean, its not
vital viper
im talking about weird ass synthesizers and funk guitars and not the actual luigis mansion melody
fast elbow
he could hum the song
peak pulsar
Luigi will get the weird wacky tunes like he has in TTYD and Origami King
peak pulsar
when he meets Yoshi it will play
fast elbow
if yoshi was a focus in this film which he's not
i'd be gunning for classic yoshi or some shit
dino yoshi
but meh
white jungle
Luigis mansion reminded me how weird it is boos are just absent from this movie
fast elbow
we've seen the buggers and they're ok looking
urban root
idk if boos are absent
urban root
id be surprised
vital viper
this song isnt luigi in a scary place
bitter acorn
i wanna see mario movie boo design
fast elbow
i kindaaa think we've seen every enemy tbh
white jungle
Wouldn’t we have seen them by now tho
vital viper
if anything this is luigi in his element in a controlled environment
urban root
i know what you mean i just dont think theyre going to bother with it right now as opposed to something more intentionally calling back to it
bitter acorn
me thinks mario movie artstyle on luigi’s mansion series king boo would be phenomenal
peak pulsar
Boos not being in the film (supposedly) is so odd
vital viper
but thats why i said its a 1up world seal of approval thing
to me thats an impressive deep cut
urban root
i'd sooner expect a SMW ghost house musical callback than anything from LM for when hes in the dark land
its not like
a deep cut thing its just I do not think this is where it would be done
theyre not doing it because htey dont get it theyre not doing it because it wouldnt make sense
bitter acorn
Boos not being in the film (supposedly) is so odd
i’d figure if they were building to a Luigi’s mansion movie they would be in the movie ? maybe king boo IS the post credit scene
peak pulsar
Boos are one of the most iconic Mario enemies. It's like the only minion on the Mario Portal website.
Boo has a Mario series amiibo, while Jr does not.
urban root
if theyre saving boos its for something luigi focused
peak pulsar
Dry Bones fans are eating good though
urban root
for sure
peak pulsar
ans Snifit fans (like me) whoooo
urban root
it equally makes sense to play up dry bones in the movie about koopas
peak pulsar
Dark Land remix in the Dark Lands would be so sick
frigid ingot
if theres one character i wanna see illumination handle it's boo
fossil bison
why
bitter acorn
Dark Land remix in the Dark Lands would be so sick
oh i’d cry on spot that would pretty cool
urban root
boos with baby corn teeth
peak pulsar
I love the Dark Land arrangements in the DIC cartoon
frigid ingot
because it's gonna be a generic cute guy that turns evil when you least suspect it
bitter acorn
i mean that’s what boos are
vital viper
thats what boos basically are anyway
fast elbow
boos with ugly white eyes with pupils
bitter acorn
LOL
urban root
https://youtu.be/nF_yyrrGou4 im like almost positive this is what ist gonna sound like while luigis walking around
free reference
bitter acorn
they have the little blush and then bam sharp teeth monster ahh scary
fast elbow
i kinda think Lakitu and Boo are gonna be weirdly absent
peak pulsar
because it's gonna be a generic cute guy that turns evil when you least suspect ...
scarfy
urban root
the melody is so distinct you can compose whatever you want underneath it and it'll sell
frigid ingot
yeah scarfy
frigid ingot
boos dont really feel cute, just shy
fast elbow
vital viper
im talking about weird ass synthesizers and funk guitars and not the actual luig...
imagine while luigis running from dry bones you can hear a growling synth arpeggio to match luigi's footsteps
frigid ingot
i mean they are cute but it doesnt feel generic
peak pulsar
yeah it'd be odd to have mean lakitus in a film where there's a big Mario Kart scene
white jungle
The fact bramball got in before boo
bitter acorn
lakitu is recording this movie theory when
fossil bison
this movie added some weird enemies
fast elbow
i mean boo could be in (again, chain chomp hasnt been in any footy but he has a render)
frigid ingot
someone mustve liked bramball at illumination
fossil bison
bramball and biddibud
fast elbow
✋
bitter acorn
i wonder if bramballs are in the movie just for that one specific scene where mario stares at it and says hello
vital viper
imagine while luigis running from dry bones you can hear a growling synth arpegg...
you get a little "tadaa" sound effect when he finds his flashlight or something
frigid ingot
biddibuds are probably my favorite thing so far
fast elbow
The choice of bramball and biddibud were actually well thought out
bitter acorn
bramball and biddibud
biddybuds make sense cuz the directors are really into 3d world bramballs ehhhh not so much sense
fossil bison
i guess they just needed some more peaceful grasslands creatures
peak pulsar
I think Paper Jam's idea to make Lakitus a neutral party was a really interesting take.
They're implied to be selling your progress to Bowser iirc
white jungle
I like how bramball and biddibud are just sorta weird alien like fauna instead of enemies
fast elbow
They're spotted just like all the mushrooms in the mushroom kingdom so there's visual cohesion and allow mario to meet enemies that aren't bowsers troops
same with the focus on cheep cheep
bitter acorn
biddybubs and bramballs being peaceful lil guys in the movie (as to what we’ve seen) is pretty neat
peak pulsar
If there isn't a Cheep Chomp chase in this film, I will riot
fast elbow
big bertha*
fossil bison
Bubba*
fast elbow
big bertha was in 1993
urban root
we really are living in a fucking lawless land right now with people saying whether or not shit is in this movie
bitter acorn
talking thoughts and wants is fun
urban root
i do not think you picked up on what i meant
bitter acorn
no i know i’m just saying i find it fun when we all talk like this
simple wasp
i dont see any luigis mansion in the movie so far
bitter acorn
it’s nice
white jungle
I love mario enemies
fossil bison
i love mario enemies except coin coffer
peak pulsar
big bertha*
Big Bertha is specifically the Boss Bass that eat tiny Cheep cheeps
frigid ingot
whats wrong with coin coffer
fossil bison
idk something about it seems too
urban root
coin coffer is moneybags but ugly
fossil bison
yeah
fast elbow
frog
peak pulsar
I love coin coffer, he should be a banker in a PM game
frigid ingot
but its design is more salient
white jungle
Spike but uglier which is hard to achive
fossil bison
i like the idea of moneybags as a frog but idk
urban root
i kinda wish mario designs would remove giant lips from its visual lexicon
frigid ingot
frogs have big lips though
although i guess moneybags works as one of those frogs that can put their eyes in their mouth
fast elbow
what's some 1 up world nerd shit that's on par with this from the sonic movie
fossil bison
uhhhh
urban root
yoshi gets a bed in teh 2nd movie thats the unused one from smw
thatll be on my bingo card
fast elbow
yea
urban root
yea
urban root
they showed pratt a supper mario broth post for promotional shit
fast elbow
i unironically bet Ed Skudder follows Supper Mario Broth
fossil bison
they what
peak pulsar
speaking of the Sonic Movie 2, I first saw it like a month ago.
What the frick was up with those humans with lightsabers at the beginning of the film?? They were never explained, and came out of nowhere
fast elbow
they showed pratt a supper mario broth post for promotional shit
WHERE
urban root
it was the 1up mushroom one
white jungle
Oh my god
urban root
i didnt watch the video because i couldnt give less of a shit but you can see in the thumbnail its that one
bitter acorn
what are the chances they make luigi find a stray yoshi egg if he breaks out to reference mama luigi
fast elbow
what are the chances luigi flies on an egg over the sea
fossil bison
nonzero
urban root
scary
peak pulsar
I think Mama Luigi could happen honestly
I thought it was more likely before the final trailer though
frigid ingot
yeah but will george washingtoad happen
white jungle
speaking of the Sonic Movie 2, I first saw it like a month ago.
What the frick ...
I was gunna say more sequel bait until I realized sonic movie 3 is gunna have more of a focus on shadow and not alien echidna stuff again
fast elbow
mama luigi is just a good origin for meeting yoshi that i think a lot of people dig and remember as how they met
urban root
to be deadass supper mario broth does a lot for making more unconventional mario lore more accessible to the public eye
most shit could happen
i mean shit i bet nintendo themselves often make use of the mario wiki
peak pulsar
I think it's funny when Mario Broth makes an unhinged tweet where he just makes something up or throws in a little joke, and has to delete it because it ends up being misinformation
urban root
better than trying to dig through their own archives, considering how they already handle older assets
yea but i mean like
the mario team
wait i brained myself
yea like smash ultimate
i was ready to have to think about the encyclopedia
urban root
i dont think theyd care enough to
white jungle
Nintendo of America would
peak pulsar
The IP team might use Mario Wiki to an extent
fast elbow
EPD artists are just unironically fans of mario lol
fast elbow
the mario kart yoshi's island track taught me that the end goals in yoshis island are supposed to be yoshi's house
and whoever designed that track... knew that
so
peak pulsar
That one EPD member convincing the rest of the team to reference an extremely obscure piece of Mario history that none of them even remember
fast elbow
they're a fanboy
fossil bison
(pauline)
urban root
half the reason why shits disconnected so often is because they dont care cus it doesnt come up in their design process and the other half is because most of what they do remember is just the same nerd shit we remember, because they can
peak pulsar
I guess Odyssey alone really shows how big of Mario fans Nintendo EPD is.
With all the crazy costume references.
Referencing random Japanese commercials and games no one remembers
fast elbow
white jungle
Mario odyssey feels like an anniversary game sometimes
urban root
they should hire me cus i knew that 
fast elbow
maybe im overstating how cool this is to me but theyre's a light apple pattern in the trees
bitter acorn
nintendo hire this man
fast elbow
and i never ever noticed
bitter acorn
maybe im overstating how cool this is to me but theyre's a light apple pattern i...
oh that’s neat
fast elbow
every yoshi should live in a house that looks like this
urban root
yoshis island is actually just the best game ever made so it figures
fast elbow
there's a forest behind my house that has a fireplace (literally JUST A fire place) right next to some trees
when summer arrives and the leaves are back i'll take a pic it'll be like im in yoshi
bitter acorn
yoshis island (first game) artwork artstyle and game artstyle is so pretty i wish they would make more games like that
white jungle
What is yoshi gunna do during a hurricane when his only form of shelter is a couple of trees
bitter acorn
flutter over it