#Illumination Mario Movie
dreamy tartan
neither can turtles
fossil bison
there are "penguins" that can
frigid ingot
what are "penguins"
dreamy tartan
Penguins (order Sphenisciformes /sfɪˈnɪsɪfɔːrmiːz/, family Spheniscidae /sfɪˈnɪsɪdiː/) are a group of aquatic flightless birds. They live almost exclusively in the Southern Hemisphere: only one species, the Galápagos penguin, is found north of the Equator. Highly adapted for life in the water, penguins have countersh
peak pulsar
considering Bowser's castle embeds itself into the icy land... I'm wondering if maybe that's not THE Bowser's castle, but rather one he's placing there as a base for after he conquers it
urban root
it was a castle?
peak pulsar
a castle on land
peak pulsar
The flying castle in the modern PM games was on land too
stark igloo
pufgins are penguins ?
dreamy tartan
They aren’t 😔
They’re penguin adjacent
frigid ingot
how related are puffins to penguins
dreamy tartan
They’re black and white aquatic birds that live in cold regions
stark igloo
biology with #1006375480905187400
dreamy tartan
I would imagine nnnnnnot very?
urban root
i just didnt see a castle in it
it looked like a huge landmass just being moved around
frigid ingot
yeah they're not in the same order
dreamy tartan
Last thing they have in common is them both being in Neoaves
Anything lower isn’t shared at all
frigid ingot
yeah they're as related as any other bird
I thought I saw a castle up there but it's a volcano
sturdy dirge
colonizing bowser
plain apex
No it’s there
urban root
i figured this was just
i dunno i was gonna say dark land but that doesn't make a lot of sense
peak pulsar
there are towers and stuff by the volcano
plain apex
umbral sluice
can't wait to see desert ones, probably beach ones
urban root
i dunno what this thing is
dreamy tartan
I think it’s just like
dreamy tartan
If a bowser world was also an airship at the same time
urban root
seems so yea
plain apex
It kinda looks like it has some features from the Mario Party DS castle
peak pulsar
seems like Bowser & the minions step out of the mouth on the front of the landmass. Which is interesting design'
since the entire thing is filled with lava
stark igloo
it’s like the literal dark lands landmass that moves
frigid ingot
well it reminds me of how "dark land" in smb3 is renamed to "castle of koopa" or "bowser's castle" in remakes
as if the whole world is his castle even though it's a giant lava place
granite cove
Also
the edge of that bowser ship could be base.
Since Bowser coming out from... his own head as door.
plain apex
I like how Bowser’s obsessed with one star when there’s been games where he hides away 120 of them
urban root
sonic 1 quill moment
granite cove
yeah i think thats head as door.
granite cove
Lmao
peak pulsar
I wonder which of the 2 it is
okay not this one I guess
was gonna note how the Kamek scene is 2 different moments
vital viper
Shoutouts to kamek in this movie man
vital viper
I literally do not care about kamek but I liked the three seconds he was in the trailer
urban root
hes so tiny
peak pulsar
Kamek shell deniers after watching the trailer
urban root
oh my god his teeth
granite cove
wtf
urban root
I give up
sturdy dirge
illumination kinda crazy
balmy coyote
i always thought the koopas had beaks for some reason
urban root
owned
sturdy dirge
:jawdrop:
balmy coyote
what if koopas were given seaturtle mouths with all the spiky shit
peak pulsar
Since we don't see Goombas in his army, I wonder if they're actually following the SMB1 Goombas defecting from Mushroom Kingdom idea
urban root
call me shulk cause i saw it
frigid ingot
wait maybe there will be some other non-koopa enemies who will also defect
sturdy dirge
hi shulk
frigid ingot
like the biddybuds
peak pulsar
yeah
frigid ingot
and the cheep cheeps
fossil bison
thoughts on terrapins guys
sturdy dirge
i doubt cheep cheeps r bad guys
peak pulsar
Cheep Cheeps seem to usually be neutral anyway
granite cove
they are in mario scene
frigid ingot
they will be when bowser frees them from all their plastic bags
dreamy tartan
https://gfycat.com/unfitnippyaxisdeer
Spikes do what Penguins don’t
fossil bison
i can't believe none of you know what a terrapin is
peak pulsar
It'll be interesting how they'd frame the enemies defecting.
Maybe they just see Bowser as the stronger force and join him. Then end up staying on his side after he loses
dreamy tartan
A terrapin is a turtle that lives in freshwater right
peak pulsar
Terrapin is an enemy from Mario RPG
fossil bison
dreamy tartan
oh
sturdy dirge
U think we dont know terrapin ?
fossil bison
they're proto koopatrols
frigid ingot
I don't know why they have spears
fossil bison
Sorry. So sorry.
frigid ingot
just feels kind of generic
fossil bison
idk it's
much more than mainline mario has ever done
what else would it have been
frigid ingot
but I always imagine koopas attacking in their shells
dreamy tartan
stole em from shy guys
sturdy dirge
the army of koopas reminded me of the pilot koopas in ss
frigid ingot
not making them into waddle dees
dreamy tartan
I vaguely remember at least one koopa troopa type having a spear
stark igloo
are spears new ??
frigid ingot
they've had spears in other non-game media
like mario adventure and maybe the cartoon
stark igloo
some paper mario troops had spears yeag ?
peak pulsar
yeah I'm thinking it might be a parallel to Toads usually using spears
sturdy dirge
toads gonna use sling shots
dreamy tartan
nvm i was thinking of super show
fossil bison
they're gonna use their world renowned trucks
stark igloo
i was thinking of spear guys my b
sturdy dirge
close enough
plain apex
oh my god his teeth
He needs to chew 
plain apex
penguins have teeths too
Should’ve been this smh
stark igloo
i like the kamek fangs
granite cove
Should’ve been this smh
nvm i dont want it
urban root
i halfway expect
all of the little individual species to have their own kingdom
and bowser recruits their army as he conquers
vital viper
Would be a little neat
urban root
so goombas would have their own kingdom
peak pulsar
tried to see if there's any possible way to misinterpret Kamek's shell as his back, but he'd have to have an extremely messed up body for that.
I do have an alternative idea though, so stay tuned
urban root
lifechanging discovery
sturdy dirge
why do koopas look so fucked up
peak pulsar
hunchback with a shell.
It's just notable that it's this visible in the film design, because in the games it's really easy to just see it as just hunchback
urban root
i mean yea you can see the lip of the shell
i just mean if he were just hunchbacked its still not that weird
stark igloo
bean body …
plain apex
Chameleon tail
Escargoon
late magnet
now the mario movie channel has been split into 2 channels 💀
vagrant sapphire
was necessary since #mario-miscellaneous was moving too fast
late magnet
ok
vital viper
CW nudity
stable lava
https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11...
thanks
peak pulsar
tail version
vital viper
Is there any point to denying that kamek has a shell
peak pulsar
no
timber pecan
tail version
I'm scared
balmy coyote
what have i walked into
fossil bison
naked kamek
pliant crane
I don’t know the temperature of this take but-
Every character seen in the trailer is their best iteration, visually imo
urban root
mario looked better in the poster
but everyone on the whole is basically just
their regular designs but with the animator touch
dreamy tartan
Oh!
fossil bison
well it's got the spikeball anchors
frigid ingot
Bowser feels pretty different to me
fossil bison
it's not even a koopa clown car castle
frigid ingot
now that I think about it he kind of reminds me of Giga Bowser
fossil bison
that's a stretch
frigid ingot
the nose part of his snout is pretty extruded
but I guess Bowser really needed the most work to be animated properly
bitter acorn
yay this thread is back
bitter acorn
but I guess Bowser really needed the most work to be animated properly
i actually really like that about him
frigid ingot
yeah me too
granite cove
Same
bitter acorn
what was your favorite part of the trailer !!
dreamy tartan
Bowser part
granite cove
Bowser/Penguins and Toad/Mushroom Kingdom scene.
bitter acorn
the trailer was def focused on bowser if anything
and my God was it great
i laughed so loud when i saw the penguins
it was a bigger plot twist than any rick roll ever
peak pulsar
really hope he has his clown car st some point. That would be sick
bitter acorn
it would
charred tulip
What if the penguins ends up being the true MVPs of this movie?
bitter acorn
honestly giving the penguins this much of a spectacular showcase and characterization in the trailer i wouldn’t even doubt it
charred tulip
The idea of Bowser (or his army) getting punked by penguins is hilarious
bitter acorn
bowser is so badass in this movie it’s actually insane
stark igloo
i like some designs, but mario looks a lil bootleggy to me
yeah, i think bowser looked really good tho
like he can actually emote
hybrid vine
tried to see if there's any possible way to misinterpret Kamek's shell as his ba...
to be fair he is an old man
fickle token
God DAMN, the trailer just blew me away
floral notch
just saw the leaked mcdonalds toys and um...||we are definitely gonna get galaxy stuff aren't we||
bitter acorn
HOPEFULLY
pliant crane
This is the better Mario Movie Chat rn 🙃
late magnet
its basially bowser's castle but volcano structure instead of metal
granite cove
yep
urban root
i can hear more of the New York in the tiny snippets voiced by pratt and i think my onion right now is that he was just
bad casting
its not even that hes a bad VA its that His Voice is not capable of reaching a fitting range
hes not the kind of guy who should be playing mario
peak pulsar
yeah
frigid ingot
honestly I don't think any of the casting is good anymore
they're not bad voice acting but it's like
the best I can describe it is that the voices everyone is putting on are the same kind of voices that audio book readers do for different characters
urban root
interesting
frigid ingot
like it's not voice acting, it's narrating dialogue
urban root
i got around to watching vinny's reaction to it and like
even his half joking dub over it sounded more fitting
pratt has 0 gruff in his voice
frigid ingot
which is funny because vinny basically does the audio book reader voice but for the characters in the video games he plays
urban root
yea
grave latch
Wait so this is back?
urban root
has been
sturdy dirge
ya im here
stark igloo
LMFAO
stark igloo
the best I can describe it is that the voices everyone is putting on are the sam...
yeah like i don’t think any of these guys have any range
even jack black still sounds kinda like himself
urban root
i am learning its not from the movie and its from nintendo splitting hteir stocks but i was living in a funny world for all of a few minutes
stark igloo
i wish it was from the movie
frigid ingot
nah it's been like this days before the trailer broadcasted
simple wasp
it woulda been so fuckin funny if it was due to the movie
restive gyro
chris pratt’s lifegoal has finally been achieved
grave latch
Destroy maryo
restive gyro
yes
peak pulsar
If it was due to the movie I'd be absolutely shocked. Like that's inconceivable that the teaser would cause that massive of a drop.
frigid ingot
I think if anything it would raise prices
peak pulsar
yeah
peak pulsar
I assume the general public thought it looked cool or fine.
I wouldn't know because I'm trapped in a Mario fandom bubble, but idk
peak pulsar
if it sucked it would lower
oh yeah for sure
urban root
pratt's performance seems to universally go down
i worded that horribly
everyone things pratt did a crap job
its not sonic movie catastrophic
but it COULD cause a drop
and a noticeable one
peak pulsar
I assume the general public thought it looked cool or fine.
I wouldn't know beca...
I'd honestly be interested to see what people outside of the Mario fandom thought
urban root
frankly they probably dont give a shit
urban root
it looks like a kids movie, the penguin scene is like REALLY kiddy
peak pulsar
I posted a picture of Pablo from the backyardigans to Snapchat, and none of the people I went to High School with and haven't talked to in over 2 years responded to it
Gosh this just makes me wish I had friends irl who are Nintendo fans. Would love to know their opinions and maybe watch the film with them when it hits Theaters
urban root
what does make this different than sonic is that EVERYONE was in on sonic being fugly
EVERYONE knew
it was huge
pratt doing a crap job is like, it's big, but its a matter of who cares
and the only people who do? are us
grave latch
There’s an alternate universe where paramount didn’t care and release the sonic movie with that design
grave latch
And sonic 2 would have never happened
frigid ingot
yeah nobody liked ugly sonic at all
there is a non-zero amount of people who like chris pratt
peak pulsar
there kind of is no universe
catalyst for Armageddon
frigid ingot
he's not a glaring blemish on the film for regular people
grave latch
yeah nobody liked ugly sonic at all
Apparently some people did but I’m willing to bet it’s a double digit amount at most
Like maybe a few dozen
peak pulsar
I think most of the people who liked it were just trying to defend it because they didn't think it was that bad or something to that extent
grave latch
I swear I saw some people defending it on twitter
stark igloo
you could feasibly watch the film and focus on pratt’s voice, that sonic design is visually unappealing and would have made it unwatchable
grave latch
Hideous
urban root
the sonic movie hinges on sonic being cute
grave latch
Apparently people said it was a public stunt or something
simple wasp
nah
urban root
definitely not
grave latch
*publicity
simple wasp
it may seem like it
simple wasp
but they lost a lot of millions reanimating the film + some ugly sonic toy designs had leaked prior. didnt some even make it to market too??
urban root
yes
stark igloo
yeah iirc
urban root
most
sturdy dirge
it was a stunt to promote the chip and dale film
urban root
i dont even know if the first movie got any merch of post-redesign sonic
outside of shit that doesnt matter
like packaging and 2D art
the real redesign sonic merch was after sonic 2
since it went through full production with the correct design
think about how the build a bear sonic didnt even have teh shoes
fucking duality
frigid ingot
you can tell it's ugly sonic because of the more circular pupils
might even be baby sonic
frigid ingot
sturdy dirge
the dog
urban root
hes not even on the website anymore
its just the 2nd movie
that pic doesnt have white hands
that might've been damage control honestly
they gave him white hands to even remotely resemble the gloves
but they're not the actual gloves like the 2nd movie's plush
restive gyro
staged leaks typically don’t happen for bad things
urban root
i havent seen these
kinda neat
the knuckles one is dumb
his accessory is crazy though
all of these are way fucking better than what the originals came with
peak pulsar
iirc hes got a voice box with ben
for whatever reason, this didn't register to me as Ben Schwartz and I was trying to figure out who Ben was
like my mind instantly jumped to Uncle Ben and I'm like "what the heck does that even mean"
restive gyro
ben / applez
frigid ingot
when does tails wear a helmet
frigid ingot
I don't....remember
frigid ingot
in the credits?
frigid ingot
that's wild
peak pulsar
the mit altered timeline
sturdy dirge
lmao
frigid ingot
I don't remember tails wearing a helmet in the ova though
peak pulsar
that's because we are in the altered timeline
he had one in this timeline
but not the original
urban root
sturdy dirge
mit merch
fossil bison
he also has it in sonic mania
peak pulsar
I think it would be neat if Nakaue made new art using the movie designs. Idk what they'd be used for. I had the idea that they could be used in the credits, but idk where else it would have a chance to be used
urban root
i wonder how theyd look at all
theyre close enough that they could just use regular ol nakaue art and call it a day
peak pulsar
I think it'd be pretty close to his usual style but with minor differences.
Like maybe Toad with teeth, Mario with the extra patch on his shirt. Bowser with green scales on his shoulders and extra teeth.
But Nakaue art is already pretty simple and cartoony, so just adding more might look weird.
urban root
i figure itd be like a classic sonic with blue arms kinda deal
in a good way, speaking as the person who did this
frigid ingot
movie mario doesn't really make any huge design changes
even bowser's green scales isn't a huge difference
2d mario is already a pretty decent translation of mario movie into 2d
peak pulsar
What if the Penguins look like babies because they ARE babies? And the adults left them in charge for a short period of time.
But in that period of time, Bowser invaded and destroyed everything.
This is why the penguins think they are intimidating. Because they're overconfident children.
(of course, this is a joke and certainly not the case, but that would be funny)
frigid ingot
too bad they sound like grown ass men
peak pulsar
that's part of the joke
simple wasp
i dont think theyre babies
i think they just didnt wanna make em big because its funnier that way
or at leas thats what they thought was funny
frigid ingot
yeah their whole existence is a joke for the movie
bitter acorn
the penguins were neat additions
dreamy tartan
You are forced to choose between saving the illumination mario movie or having it replaced with the 1993 mario movie
Which do you choose
urban root
save becauae it wouldnt be hard
strange mortar
Which do you choose
That one japan only movie
dreamy tartan
It is now forever in your debt and will serve you until it saves your life in turn ^_^
stuck ridge
You are forced to choose between saving the illumination mario movie or having i...
Save the Illumination Mario Movie and let the old one never exist.
dreamy tartan
No the 1993 movie would still exist. It just wouldn’t replace the illumination one
stuck ridge
Oh, ok.
dreamy tartan
It’s like a villain (1993 movie) telling the protagonist to forget about their best friend (illumination movie) and join them for ultimate power
They’re not equally in peril it’s just a test of the protagonist’s morals
restive gyro
takes the 1993 movie and makes it the only mario movie to ever exist ever until the end of time
granite cove
You are forced to choose between saving the illumination mario movie or having i...
illumination.
frigid ingot
I feel like I’d regret choosing “save” when the full movie releases
Because the trailer is easily salvageable
stark igloo
i’m gonna come back to this question after the release and then decide
if it’s really bad then save because i like the potential and i care, but if it’s boring then i’m gonna just gonna obliterate it from the timeline bc we don’t need a boring mario movie
vital viper
Can I save Mario wearing a collar as Canon exclusively
stark igloo
yeah
frigid ingot
yoshi's island
sturdy dirge
i hope i enjoy it
dreamy tartan
Heard they’re adding sunglasses Peach in it... but you didn’t hear that from me
frigid ingot
oh yeah i think that's one of the toys that got leaked on amazon
stark igloo
honestly just a good time
but i guess specifically i want bro moments ? like i wanna see mario and luigi kid around and act like siblings that actually want to be around each other
peak pulsar
I want them to not make Donkey Kong stuff confusing
Pauline would also be cool
I guess at this point I'd just like to see a lot of different enemies and species in the film
dreamy tartan
Really wondering how they’re gonna explain Cranky’s rapid aging in comparison to Mario
frigid ingot
I think a lot of stuff will end up being confusing if they can't streamline it
knowing what I know from the toy leaks it might be too ambitious
peak pulsar
yeah
They might do what I didn't want and just make Mario fight DK instead of Cranky
and then maybe Cranky is involved because DK Island is one of the "kingdoms" Bowser is trying to take over
sturdy dirge
urban root
Thaaats what jt is yeees
stark igloo
as you should
urban root
his expression is completely different
stark igloo
wait this is actually kind of perfect
i'm not sure what this expression is but it's good and very mario-y
the initial one is. weird
urban root
he doesn't have an expression in the edit
his sightline is different too hes not even looking where hes supposed to be
dreamy tartan
Mario neutral expression should ALWAYS be mouth hidden under big mustache
stark igloo
it still kinda is
frigid ingot
his mouth is still hidden
dreamy tartan
BIG mustache
urban root
yea
the problem isnt that his features are too big or small
its that hes too slim
his face is chunkier but hes got the usual mario body
dreamy tartan
Give me this or give me death
stark igloo
yeah he looked chubbier in the poster
frigid ingot
yeah this is just the direction mario has been heading
like he's been slimmed down as early as mario run
stark igloo
his face looks so flat in the movie
urban root
it is
dreamy tartan
I miss leak mario
stark igloo
i'm still trying to figure out what went wrong between the leak and the film
dreamy tartan
I can’t pinpoint what it is about mario’s design in the movie that feels so off to me
urban root
stark igloo
mhm
urban root
his face is fatter
frigid ingot
jesus his legs are long
stark igloo
it's like even if he's facing forward he just looks like an offbrand version of the leak
frigid ingot
I dunno if his head is fatter so much as it just seems like that way because his face is smaller
frigid ingot
but his smaller face allows for better expression
he's completely dead-eyed in the edit
urban root
yea
the mustache is too big in the edit, it wont allow for much of anything
youll never see his mouth ever
dreamy tartan
Yeah, I guess I think too much in terms of like. Paper Mario or whatever
dreamy tartan
He looks so friendly there
stark igloo
yeah they were a little bigger here
dreamy tartan
I could trust this man. I can trust leak Mario
sturdy dirge
leak mario goes so crazy what the fuck
stark igloo
yeah
stark igloo
yes leak mario is like scarilt good
urban root
more than people realize
stark igloo
his face is just a bit too small in the movie i think
stark igloo
yeah i'm just gonna make this mario the standard
and then pretend they lost some data and had to remake movie mario from scratch to justify the disparity
urban root
hell look weirder the more we see his legs
its the final design in a neutral expression eith his shoulders scrunched up
literally a happy accident
im impressed anything official has mario looking like this at all
itll probably be reflected in other renders and merch
dreamy tartan
I think it’d be nice if they leaned into Mario being an older uncle-ish figure visually
urban root
it would be nice!
sturdy dirge
perfect world:
urban root
its what hes supposed to be
sturdy dirge
nintendo keeps using the mcdonalds type renders
to the point where game mario reflects them
urban root
would be nice
peak pulsar
that "Bigger face" edit looks horrific, but it made me think maybe I should make my own edit
I think it would be cool if Smash Bros adopted the film designs
since it's closer to what Smash goes for anyways
urban root
id rather not if its the in-film look
peak pulsar
yeah the render look is better
urban root
ideal game mario is when hes shaking hands with sora
sturdy dirge
😏
sturdy dirge
dreamy tartan
I don’t think Mario should be regarded as a slim cool guy in his 20’s with a normal guy voice. He should be a bulky friendly uncle in his mid-30’s at the earliest that plays with the nieces and nephews and the little cousins
balmy coyote
ideal mario is superstar saga official art mario
peak pulsar
Also I think Mario's nose looks weird in the sideview of the movie design
peak pulsar
probably the biggest thing that's bothered me
balmy coyote
it's like a pug
peak pulsar
flat face
urban root
like its literally his usual silhouette just Squished thin
peak pulsar
how is this explicit Clyde, heck you
dreamy tartan
How is it Not
balmy coyote
very explicit
peak pulsar
guess I'll screenshot a bigger area instead
I don't like how he's missing the 3 iconic bumps on his gloves, but it's not that big a deal
that square is what Clyde thought was explicit
dreamy tartan
Proportioned like fix it felix
balmy coyote
fix it felix was designed like mario, now mario is slightly designed like fix it felix
urban root
a little bit inevitable
ideally mario could still look like mario while taking elements from felix
balmy coyote
ye, esp in the 3d animated film industry
peak pulsar
except instead of fixing things he wrecks them as part of the Wrecking Crew.
Wreck-It-Mario
urban root
felix was designed to be animated after all so it's a good idea
dreamy tartan
i feel like all the problems i have with movie mario in design and voice could be linked to trying to make him seem like a younger, cooler mario
stark igloo
yeah ???
balmy coyote
young conker mario
stark igloo
this mario looks like. 20
balmy coyote
if the mustache was bigger, he'd look older i think
stark igloo
i know actual mario is like 25-26 but it's like different somehow
dreamy tartan
it’s because he doesn’t feel Designed to be 25-26
sturdy dirge
miyamoto
balmy coyote
mario was designed to be kinda ageless
peak pulsar
there guys, I fixed it. You're welcome
stark igloo
you made him 12
frigid ingot
see this is what everyone was afraid of
and probably what they're actually seeing right now
dreamy tartan
If you got rid of the mustache this would be a normal mario fankid
balmy coyote
mario does normally look like a child wearing a fake mustache tbh
peak pulsar
It's the Mario lad
urban root
mario was designed to be kinda ageless
not really?
stark igloo
mario normally looks like a 30 year old who just wants to be left alone for like a day
balmy coyote
he looks between 25 and 50 lol
urban root
thats not ageless though
peak pulsar
according to MatPat he looks like 40 (and thinks he is 40)
urban root
yhats a very specific age range
balmy coyote
25 years is not specific
frigid ingot
according to miyamoto he's mid-20s
urban root
compared to spongebob or mickey mouse
frigid ingot
and this is also something probably nintendo concurs
stark igloo
spongebob is literally ageless because he looks about any age i think
urban root
yea
balmy coyote
spongebob looks at least 20 and at most 30
stark igloo
and often acts like a child or a young man
urban root
he can be both a kid and an adult
balmy coyote
lad wears a tie
urban root
mario cannot be a kid
stark igloo
mario was specifically designed to be an older man
dreamy tartan
Mario is in his 20’s, Movie Mario looks like he’s in his 20’s
urban root
so do kids who have school uniforms
balmy coyote
spongebob has a job
balmy coyote
he lives alone
urban root
the movie is about him being a kid
dreamy tartan
Do you REALLY think mr krabs is against child labor
balmy coyote
and takes care of a pet
stark igloo
it's a cartoon
peak pulsar
there guys, I fixed it. You're welcome
frick man, what have I done. Now when I turn off this layer and look at the original it looks stretched out
Why have I done this
dreamy tartan
Grumpo. Look at me in the eyes grumpo. Tell me that Mr Krabs would be against child labor
stark igloo
yeah the movie was literally about them being children
like there is a song called "Now That We're Men"
dreamy tartan
Spongebob is not a Literal child yes but he is designed to be pretty ageless and faces problems that are relatable to children
Mario is a 30 year old portly man with a grown mustache that works as a plumber
stark igloo
Spongebob is not a Literal child yes but he is designed to be pretty ageless and...
yeah
spongebob can fluctuate between the child role and adult role as needed
balmy coyote
spongebob is at least a young adult with childish tendencies
stark igloo
mario cannot because no one would believe that mario would react the way teenagers do to certain situations
balmy coyote
mario is 25-50 and spongebob is 20-30
you cannot tell me you think spongebob is 40 with a straight face
frigid ingot
spongebob also still goes to school
dreamy tartan
well...sponges CAN live for over 1,000 years...
pliant crane
Spongebob is canonically 35, I believe
balmy coyote
spongebob fails driving school
dreamy tartan
Spongebob doesn’t have a canonical age
pliant crane
Could be 36 by now
dreamy tartan
When asked what age he is in the latest birthday episode it cuts to static before he answers
fossil bison
spongebob also still goes to school
driving school
pliant crane
Spongebob doesn’t have a canonical age
He and many other characters have shown certificates and licences with their full birthdays on it, actually.
sturdy dirge
obv spongebob going to school is supposed to like. de age him lol
the way his school is treated
dreamy tartan
they literally get stars for being good boys super star alien
They have a class pet
balmy coyote
yes, but it's driving school
sturdy dirge
bc he cant go to high school
pliant crane
they literally get stars for being good boys super star alien
Because funny ha ha cartoon
Multiple times the other students have been portrayed as angsty young adolescents
fossil bison
the show does flip flop the meaning of spongebob going to driving school
for a single episode
pliant crane
The dude is 35-36 y’all
Literally canonically
fossil bison
but the reason it's driving school and not actual school is maybe because they don't want spongebob to be a literal kid
or just dislike towards school episodes i guess
pliant crane
The dude is 35-36 y’all
Literally canonically
There’s a reason the movie is about society looking down on them for acting like kids. They’re adults.
dreamy tartan
Well yeah, because he isn’t an actual child, but it’s believable that he could face similar problems to children and react how they’d react
balmy coyote
spongebob owns a house, cares for a healthy pet, and has a full-time job
dreamy tartan
he is by all intents an actual adult but he can reasonably face problems and react to them similar to a kid
dreamy tartan
He is visually ageless
stark igloo
that’s what makes him ageless
balmy coyote
he wears work clothes
stark igloo
he never acts like an adult consistently nor a child consistently
dreamy tartan
Even the movie is relatable to children because children hate being condescended to for being kids
pliant crane
There it is. July 14, 1986.
He is 36.
stark igloo
grumpo do you get what we’re trying to say
pliant crane
Straight from the show.
stark igloo
that doesn’t negate the fact that he’s still ageless
pliant crane
36
balmy coyote
i get it, but i see spongebob and i see childish young adult
stark igloo
do you guys understand what jenny and i are trying to say
dreamy tartan
sturdy dirge
There it is. July 14, 1986.
He is 36.
#1006663673361727648
stark igloo
i get it, but i see spongebob and i see childish young adult
that makes him ageless
pliant crane
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Bruh how is spongebob’s age Mario lore??? 😭
restive gyro
spongebob is simultaneously both a kid and adult at the same time
dreamy tartan
Mario, on the other hand, is Pretty Obviously an Adult
balmy coyote
he comes across as a manchild though
stark igloo
spongebob is simultaneously both a kid and adult at the same time
that is still this
those aren’t necessarily seperate
balmy coyote
a manchild is not the same
sturdy dirge
1 up world learns spongebob
balmy coyote
it's someone who is clearly an adult who acts immature
pliant crane
Spongebob is just a very immature adult. Let’s put it that way.
dreamy tartan
one of these days the mods are gonna listen to my requests to blow up this server
stark igloo
i’m getting a migraine
balmy coyote
nuke us from orbit
pliant crane
Lol this chat always diverts to something else it’s hilarious
sturdy dirge
making mario movie a thread for 1 up craft
balmy coyote
it's fun
sturdy dirge
guys lets play minecraft
pliant crane
Can it be the spongebob dlc 
balmy coyote
mario discord speedruns minecraft any%
pliant crane
Damn
pliant crane
Mario Minecraft the Movie
stark igloo
1uw mod pack
pliant crane
What would even be in a 1uw mod pack
stark igloo
all of the apples are just that roxas guy from the hearts of kindgom
dreamy tartan
The apples are replaced with sunglasses peach
sturdy dirge
that roxas guy
pliant crane
What would even be in a 1uw mod pack
RadiantQuack skin
stark igloo
can i be the axolotl
dreamy tartan
Ooooo nice sword sora
sturdy dirge
You made me mad!!
balmy coyote
grass texture is meat
stark igloo
https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-fight-roxas-gif-18215845
is this the When You Walk Away guy
dreamy tartan
Sephiroth?
stark igloo
from smash bros yeah ?
balmy coyote
this is a your sanctuary guy
sturdy dirge
true
balmy coyote
oh boy, time to catch a north korea stream
fossil bison
peak pulsar
one more edit for the night
granite cove
still
sturdy dirge
lmao
frigid ingot
yeah he's jumping and running like a normal person here
dreamy tartan
He’s a loser. Let’s eat him
sturdy dirge
good story telling
peak pulsar
he broke his legs after falling through the pipe
peak pulsar
the plot is about Mario losing his jump and learning to become Jump Man again
frigid ingot
imagine video-game-ifying your world as a narrative choice but you leave out the most basic mechanic
peak pulsar
Mario is struggling because he's not used to jumping on round mushrooms, he's used to jumping on flat girders and buildings
balmy coyote
he's not used to not dying after a 10 foot centimeter drop
dreamy tartan
*10 centimeter
balmy coyote
true
dreamy tartan
I think now that I put it into words
The thing that bothers me about the constant defense of Pratt has little to do with Pratt’s voicework itself (as bland as it is)
But the fact that people feel the need to CONSTANTLY shit on Martinet, an actual voice actor, THE voice for Mario, in order to defend it
Feel the incessant urge to prove that actually, Pratt DESERVES the role MORE because, well, his Mario isn’t high pitched and Martinet’s rarely talks!
Nevermind the fact Martinet’s Mario rarely talks more due to lack of opportunity than anything, or that Martinet could certainly just tone down his normal Mario voice a little, no!
restive gyro
such is life
dreamy tartan
It’s hip to dunk on Pratt and thus it’s even hipper to be contrarian about it and say Martinet blows hard compared to him
do these people know they can just Like Pratt. there’s no real world repercussion for it. you don’t see me say “oh i love martinet, he makes that ALBANO guy look like a piece of SHIT”
vagrant sapphire
And of course people are obnoxious about it too
vagrant sapphire
They matter when it does end up in this server and makes the chat just terrible
In which it did at some point
sturdy dirge
dont read chat
vagrant sapphire
Well it is kind of my job
sturdy dirge
Not Youuuu
Jennyy
also truly if 1 up world is bothering u u aren’t obligated to be annoyed
dont have to mod all the time
dreamy tartan
I have chosen to mute movie mario chat dw ^_^
it was driving me insane
This is why i’m in the Cool Mario Movie Chat + Jenny
sturdy dirge
it is a very brain off chat
dreamy tartan
It’s like a lovecraftian experience
vagrant sapphire
dont have to mod all the time
True
dreamy tartan
Trying to comprehend it will only make you looney toony nuts in the head
restive gyro
this is the general 1-2 of mario movie if u think about it
dreamy tartan
true!
sturdy dirge
the hero we didnt know we needed
peak pulsar
this is the general 1-2 of mario movie if u think about it
that's what I've been using it as yeah
sturdy dirge
movie chat is like pure opinion vs opinion
and the people running the convos dont know how to convo 😏
restive gyro
mario movie is the marketplace of ideas
dreamy tartan
And when it’s not it’s full of weird spam
it’s like one of those opening scenes in a film set in the Mesozoic era
Where it’s full of chaos and shouting and a pterodactyl eats a cavebaby
Truly an unruly and wild land. Only the strongest warriors should ever try to venture there
Do you guys think it’s legal to construct a house solely out of movie dvd boxes
And if not, should it be?
dreamy tartan
What if you buy the dvd boxes
sturdy dirge
go for it i guess
dreamy tartan
Sorry i went a little cuckoo crazy there guys idk what came over me
Hope you all end up enjoying Mario the Movie!
vagrant sapphire
Thats alright, just tell them to me in my dms instead tho you did also share it there
stark igloo
going to make an executive decision and mute #mario-miscellaneous as well
a burden has been lifted off my shoulders
vagrant sapphire
Good decision
dreamy tartan
wahllelujah!
lucid compass
i had it muted for some time what is even going on in htere
dreamy tartan
Okay so imagine putting your hand in warm butter. That’s also watery. And your hand has a sock on it also.
lucid compass
scary
dreamy tartan
And also there’s the sound of white noise in the background but there’s nothing you can think of that it’d be coming from
And that’s what the Mario movie chat is like ^_^
stark igloo
a sensory nightmare
livid stream
oh man!!
stark igloo
hey it’s you, goku
foggy kestrel
Where did people shiting Martinet come from lol
sturdy dirge
hey its me zoro
foggy kestrel
It's funny when Martinet is just fine with not being Mario lol just wanting to be involved
If he was like audibly upset then fine like collen and sonic 2 but fans speaking up and dissing Pratt as a person as well is just a bit weird to me
Again i'm not saying you need to be onboard with Pratt i don't really give a shit if I'm gonna be honest but it's just funny that people act like Pratt is the devil or something
dreamy tartan
people constantly try defending pratt by devaluing Martinet’s work
foggy kestrel
At most they say "it's annoying for a full film" from what i've
vagrant sapphire
thats exactly devaluing Martinet's work
foggy kestrel
Could be wrong but i wouldn't say it's devaluing it
dreamy tartan
Yes! And that’s devaluing!
vagrant sapphire
because Martinet has done it before
foggy kestrel
Not for an hour and 30 Minutes straight
dreamy tartan
If we as a society can live through like 90 full-length Alvin and the Chipmunk movies then we can live through a movie where Martinet voices Mario
fossil bison
war of the mario fans
foggy kestrel
Where the character needs to fully emote a wide array of feelings
dreamy tartan
Didn’t Martinet get his job by speaking as Mario until the tape literally ran out
foggy kestrel
If we as a society can live through like 90 full-length Alvin and the Chipmunk m...
I mean no one really likes the movies lol
stuck ridge
You know, if any other actor was casted as Mario, would the same thing happen?
foggy kestrel
Yes and No
livid stream
If they were good no
fossil bison
I mean no one really likes the movies lol
they sell a gorillion dollars i mean
livid stream
But Chris Pratt is .
fossil bison
You know, if any other actor was casted as Mario, would the same thing happen?
idk chris pratt was cast specifically because he can provide the portrayal of a regular cool guy
dreamy tartan
anyways there is #mario-miscellaneous if you wanna talk to like-minded people about pratt
urban root
why is it such a hard sell that martinet, a capable voice actor with decades of experience, could voice a character that hes voiced for decades well
fossil bison
any other actor casting would have a different direction for mario
foggy kestrel
If it was a full on Brooklyn accent like Hoskins or Boone then i can see people liking it
urban root
hes not an idiot. even if he attempted to do the voice he'd figure out how to make it sound good for a full film
fossil bison
charles martinet has done va for a movie recently
vagrant sapphire
yeah in dragon ball
foggy kestrel
Pratt isn't doing a bad one but not a great one either just bleh though i need to hear more lines
urban root
he is doing a bad one
if you think he's doing a good one you have not heard any new york adjacent accents
vagrant sapphire
it's bad, straight up
livid stream
the voice acting talent of Chris Pratt vs every other actor in that trailer is jarring
dreamy tartan
And Linda Belcher could do better
balmy coyote
i feel like the 1% of an accent chris put on will be inconsistent
urban root
he can put on an accent all he wants but the baseline pratt voice doesn't fit
he's got an accent going the entire teaser
you can hear it in everything he says
but when chris pratt does a new york accent, it sounds like the same vocal direction that linda belcher has
balmy coyote
ye
urban root
like not even joking, linda belcher is meant to sound like your usual northeast coast woman
this is the direction pratt is taking, which isn't befitting of Mario or a more accurate NYC accent
urban root
a lot of (new) users have taken the opportunity of upselling pratt's voice by downselling martinet's voice for the movie as though they are each individually the first people to discover that mario's usual game voice might not be that conventional for an hour and a half long movie
dreamy tartan
That’s because they only know voice acting from Pratt, who can’t ;p
vagrant sapphire
~~That’s because they only know voice acting from Pratt, who can’t ;p~~
LOL
foggy kestrel
They should just got a celeb who can replicate the voice while toning down and making their own imo
timber pecan
I'm not gonna lie by the way, Chris Pratt could've done a better job at doing the Mario voice
balmy coyote
hehe
timber pecan
It just sounds like... flat as a square
fossil bison
or charles martinet's future replacement while at it
vagrant sapphire
French dub do be winning over us in that department
foggy kestrel
Money probably
urban root
personally i'd take any opportunity i can get for mario to sound less italian and more brooklyn
balmy coyote
i'm still convinced a mostly silent mario would have been the best adaptation outcome
timber pecan
Just get Vinesauce Vinny to voice him lol
urban root
but that doesnt mean martinet cant do that
but quite literally most people can do this better than pratt
you hire pratt when you want Pratt
foggy kestrel
i'm still convinced a mostly silent mario would have been the best adaptation ou...
Nah that'd be bad
balmy coyote
but why?
urban root
he is not the kind of celebrity who changes how he looks or sounds for a film because he's hired for the fact that he's him
timber pecan
Nah that'd be bad
Well he's also mostly silent in the games outside of the usual vocalizations and grunts when making movements
livid stream
justin timberlake as mario
foggy kestrel
You have the opportunity to advance the mario series more than ever before
balmy coyote
silent mario would have to emote and charade, which is fun
foggy kestrel
And you don't
balmy coyote
also a mostly nonspeaking character in a big film would be great
foggy kestrel
Making him silent just makes into a glorifed playthrough at that point
balmy coyote
not really
he could communicate through charade and stuff
a silent or nonspeaking character can still have a character
foggy kestrel
I feel they should still be speaking
Why else do people love Super Mario Adventures
restive gyro
it could definitely work, but that would be a pretty drastic thing to do for the main character
balmy coyote
i think it could make for a very strong character if enough care is put in. and it would be very unique
foggy kestrel
And too a lesser extent, the 90s multi meida era
restive gyro
its not like mario is a silent character
balmy coyote
i'm not saying silent. i mean just doesn't talk if he doesn't have to
fossil bison
like mario and luigi you mean
dreamy tartan
Chaplin films retroactively made into video games for some reason
balmy coyote
yes! because that would be amazing
pliant crane
I imagine the “mushroom kingdom” line is just like a trailer line if that makes sense. “What is this place” is clearly from the movie and it sounded pretty okay to me
dreamy tartan
Also no offense but if advancing the series means Pratt replacing Martinet wholesale I think I’d blast my bill off
foggy kestrel
I'm talking in genral to giving Mario a voice
balmy coyote
what do you even mean by advancing anyway?
urban root
I imagine the “mushroom kingdom” line is just like a trailer line if that makes ...
i mean yea
foggy kestrel
Not Pratt
urban root
its either from a different part of the film or its not in it at all
mario has a voice
he already talks
frequently
foggy kestrel
what do you even mean by advancing anyway?
He can like have an actual character that can fully interact with people
urban root
he doesnt in the games because he doesnt have to
and the games are designed around such
this will not change with a different VA
timber pecan
Also no offense but if advancing the series means Pratt replacing Martinet whole...
I doubt Chris Pratt would replace Charles Martinet as the voice, such casting was only made for the sake of an Illumination movie lol
urban root
to think otherwise is like actual franchise ignorance
if youre gonna talk highly about THe future of the franchise at least be right
timber pecan
I doubt Chris Pratt would replace Charles Martinet as the voice, such casting wa...
If they really did that path though I'd be scared
urban root
the worry i would have is martinet's successor
foggy kestrel
I point to the adventure and dic cartoons because the characters are well written there
balmy coyote
a mostly quiet character can still have an actual character. much like how real life non-speaking people are still people
urban root
he won't be around forever
foggy kestrel
In spite of the cartoons rough edges
stark igloo
a mostly quiet character can still have an actual character. much like how real ...
literally link is a prime example of this ??
dreamy tartan
Mario is a silent character because he usually doesn’t have a reason to talk for gameplay purposes or Nintendo are just feeling lazy for that game and simply reuse audio, as they love to do
If you like. Listen to Martinet speaking as Mario outside of the games he talks a Lot
balmy coyote
ye link is an example
stark igloo
but outside of games he talks or people just translate for him which i think is fun
there’s a lot of ways to approach it
restive gyro
there is the weird thing where toad is like “mario/luigi says”
foggy kestrel
You what i find funny?
balmy coyote
joker moment?
restive gyro
thats happened in a few recent games
fossil bison
mario and luigi just flat out speak in mainline games I'm sure
urban root
I point to the adventure and dic cartoons because the characters are well writte...
he literally doesn't talk because mario games are low dialogue games and he doesnt need to talk. part of the joy of being immersed into being mario is that he doesnt need words to express how he is feeling in a given moment
if anything sunshine is the best compromise because when he talks it's basically him muttering to himself
and its all funny things
stark igloo
yeah
urban root
but i dont think i want to hear mario say Cut that out Bowser! Give back Peach!
stark igloo
Come back here ! You big monkey !
sturdy dirge
i left the oven on!
stark igloo
oh shit !
fossil bison
whoa, check out these coins!
stark igloo
is this super or what ?
urban root
That is one dead enemy
sturdy dirge
i will inhale and then i will spit you out
stark igloo
GOD
balmy coyote
leapin' lasagna!
restive gyro
can’t ever have too-a many coins
stark igloo
TAAAAAKE THIS TAAAAAKE THAT
violent coughing
https://youtu.be/FC5xz2MqgcY there’s a mario one … i didnmy know ..
urban root
chris pratt literally sounds like this
balmy coyote
this reminds me of RLM skits
stark igloo
jumping is about to send me into cardiac arrest
urban root
his accent is worse
balmy coyote
it sounds so dead inside
stark igloo
YES I GOT A: mushroom
balmy coyote
you read my mind!
stark igloo
miyamoto magic
livid stream
so here we go
sturdy dirge
him going Yummy Yummy Yummy to the powerup sound
strange mortar
Luigi,I screwed up the cobblestone generator!Please forgive me!
balmy coyote
ma-mario! our skyboxblock is fucked!
back to inane rambling, i think a well done mostly quiet character means a watcher has to pay attention and keep an eye on many of their scenes.
strange mortar
I like silent characters
stark igloo
have mario use ASL
sturdy dirge
link: im afraid i’ll have to bust out my infamous spinning attack! raahhh
stark igloo
samus: you’ll never get away with this, metroid ! eat laser !
dreamy tartan
I know this wasn’t necessarily the point but saying that a silent protagonist in a vg movie = basically a video game is too silly to me because. Pantomime has existed LONG before video games
I don’t think I need to explain this to anyone
But pantomime, pantomime in cinema, and silent protagonists in film are not any more equivalent to being like a video game than saying the Sonic movie is like a Sonic game because Sonic talks in it
balmy coyote
there's also a recent animated show with mainly non-speaking characters and it's great
dreamy tartan
if anything it Would be different for Mario because Mario typically uses the most basic body language possible since most of the time you’re playing as him anyway. If they had to adapt a silent Mario for a movie they’d basically Have to make him more expressive
balmy coyote
ye! it'd be so fun to see
dreamy tartan
This is making me realize that Mario and Luigi would be perfect for a “Scaredy Cat” dynamic
balmy coyote
they are basically a slapstick duo done pretty well in m&l
in fact, the failed bros attacks are hilarious
foggy kestrel
I don't think a Mario Movie should limit itself to such a degree in order to be laser accurate to the games or to be a pantomime, having Mario and the gang fully speak can really emphasie and strengthen their characters, which are already pretty good.
Also just having them speak would kinda be cool for once in an animated cinematic setting, where they can have banter with each other or have an emotional moment or two
balmy coyote
a non speaking character can be very emotional btw
there's a great show by genndy tartakovsky called Primal
it has very strong characterization
foggy kestrel
I guess but seeing them speak would allow for further and stronger characterisation
balmy coyote
not necessarily
foggy kestrel
Lile Warioware Gold vs the other Warioware kinda showcase this
It's just a way funnier game than the previous games
strange mortar
The VA-ing add some more personality
livid stream
I wouldn’t feel any emotional impact if Mario didn’t say “It’s me…. Mari-mess em up-o….” At the end of the movie
balmy coyote
the first 20-minute ep of primal gives a dinosaur more character than most talking main protagonists
stark igloo
i would like more voice acting don’t get me wrong but it’s very possible for these characters not speak and still be fleshed out characters, like M&L has them not speak or speak in a different language and you can very much tell what they are feeling and saying
i think they can be more expressive without having to talk or talk as much
dreamy tartan
To bring up “Scaredy Cat” again: Sylvester doesn’t say Shit in that cartoon but you live vicariously through his actions more than Porky, who is the Only one that talks, because of the stunning animation and expressions that Sylvester is given
balmy coyote
the expression "talk is cheap" applies to animated characters in a way
dreamy tartan
This isn’t to say that I think this is the Only way a Mario movie could work, not at all, but that doesn’t mean it Couldn’t work
Cartoon characters are such that you can easily convey in their motions what you couldn’t with live action
stark igloo
yeah
urban root
It's just a way funnier game than the previous games
uhhh fucking Uhhhh LOL
stark igloo
like mit said i think something like sunshine could really work best like if he talks it’s kinda quiet and really just to himself
but a lot of the emotion comes from his expressions and body language
