Illumination Mario Movie

[pliant crane]

He would also cameo as Jr’s mom

[plain apex]

What if Miyamoto does the surprise cameos in the Japanese dub

[pliant crane]

Holy shit I never thought of that

Mario movie with a Japanese dub

Second time we’re gonna have a Mario anime

Basically

[fossil bison]

foreman spike is set to appear but not as main antagonist

[pliant crane]

This movie is such an anomaly

[fossil bison]

also, fawful isn't an epd character

[plain apex]

I didn’t even imply he would be the main antagonist

[pliant crane]

I think he meant like another obscure character

[plain apex]

Neither is Cranky

[fossil bison]

adopted epd character

[plain apex]

Double standard

[pliant crane]

Nintendo still owns the characters from M&L, not AlphaDream.

[fossil bison]

nintendo is rife with double standards

please understand that nintendo sees fawful as something different from waluigi or cranky kong

[pliant crane]

They’re Mario series property

[pliant crane]

I’m just wishing that he’ll be in somewhere, not saying it’s gonna happen 💀

[plain apex]

This isn’t another Mario RPG situation where Square was able to have ownership of all it’s original assets

[pliant crane]

I know that it probably won’t happen at all, sadly.

RIP Chortles Man

[fossil bison]

it isn't, but fawful is a character that nintendo doesn't ever touch generally speaking

[pliant crane]

Neither was Spike 🤷‍♂️

[plain apex]

Same with basically every RPG character

[fossil bison]

yeah

cuz they're either alphadream or intelligent systems stuff that nintendo doesn't like lumping in with the rest of the mario brand

or some other reason along the lines

[pliant crane]

Still salty that fawful wasn’t the villain in bowser’s fury

It’s literally called fury

Nintendo needs to use the alphadream characters more

[plain apex]

He has literally nothing to do with 3D World

[fossil bison]

i'm not even sure fawful and fury is a thing in

[plain apex]

Or mainline Mario at all

[fossil bison]

the original japanese text

the mario & luigi games had some very liberal localization

[pliant crane]

Neither did like most of Bowser’s Fury

It had Jr in it man 😭

[plain apex]

They could because even by the weird standards of Paper Mario being a different world, the Mario and Luigi world is by all accounts the real one

[pliant crane]

Jr wasn’t in 3DW 🤷‍♂️

[pliant crane]

This

M&L is the same world as mainline

[plain apex]

No but it really isn’t that surprising for Jr to be in Bowser’s Fury

Honestly I don’t get why a separate art-style would even justify Paper Mario being it’s own world

[pliant crane]

Tbf the paper Mario world is literally made of arts and crafts now, not just an artsyle

Like Mario uses stickers and can fold the world and shit

[plain apex]

They didn’t have to do that in the modern ones though

Yeah they were present in TTYD and Super, but the original game really did only have it as an art direction

Like if they kept the Mario Story name for the US, would they have really changed the direction this much

[pliant crane]

Yeah ig

Unrelated, just had a thought

Since this is clearly an origin movie, do y’all think the bros will be plumbing in New York, or New Donk?

[plain apex]

Hopefully New Donk given how this started production not long after Odyssey

[peak pulsar]

yeah. Fawful seemingly does not have the cult following he has here, in Japan.

[plain apex]

Having it just be part of the mushroom kingdom’s world really helped to streamline that part of the Mario franchise

[junior heron]

Wonder if they'll give a nod to Pauline being the mayor in either place. Or will she just be kidnapped and forgotten about?

[peak pulsar]

I think in the game universe she probably wasnt mayor by that point

[junior heron]

Yeah, that's what I think, too

[peak pulsar]

so it depends on if they want her to be a mayor as a reference

[plain apex]

She says in Odyssey that the kidnapping helped motivate her to do better

[junior heron]

Was wondering if they'll change it for this adaptation

[pliant crane]

Literally had an incredible idea

[plain apex]

Depends on what she does/if she shows up at all

[pliant crane]

Y’all talking about Pauline made me realize Mario’s whole character arc in the movie

[peak pulsar]

Still sad that if Pauline is in the film, she might not have her classic hairstyle 😔

[pliant crane]

He’s gonna try to save her from Cranky, either fail or BARELY succeed and he’s gonna be all like “aw man I wanna be a hero”

Then he gets his chance when he stumbles upon the Mushroom Kingdom and has to save Peach 👀

[plain apex]

My own prediction is somewhat different

The events of arcade DK happened several years ago, and the movie starts with Mario and Luigi fighting Cranky alongside the new DK
The city ends up being wrecked in the process, and the Bros have to go somewhere else, which leads to the mushroom kingdom

Mario would want to do more with his life instead of only being known for “saving the mayor” since it’s stagnated since

[pliant crane]

What if the whole movie is a Mario 2 reference

Mario is just a loser who wants to be a hero so at night he dreams about saving Pauline from Cranky and saving a mushroom princess from a fire breathing reptile lmao

The post credit scene is him waking up in a panicked sweat

Or what if they do the super show thing where the bros just randomly stumble upon a pipeway to the kingdom while plumbing one day lmao

[plain apex]

I’d like it if it was more creative then that

Especially since SMB1’s manual states he came there of his own will

[frigid ingot]

it does?

[pliant crane]

Are we thinking this movie’s gonna be game canon..?

Cuz I didn’t get that vibe

[plain apex]

It doesn’t have to be

But I’d like it to follow it’s spirit at least

[frigid ingot]

the manual doesn't make it seem clear

[peak pulsar]

no

[plain apex]

Both versions do

[peak pulsar]

probably based somewhat on the game continuity, but its own thing

[frigid ingot]

the original says "(maybe)"

implying more that he's an unlikely hero

[plain apex]

The “maybe” refers to how Luigi can beat the game instead

[peak pulsar]

I think if you follow the "SMB is a direct sequel to Mario Bros" he can still stumble upon the Kingdom through warp pipes, and then hear about the story and decide to help.

[plain apex]

I mean given this movie explicitly has Cranky and not him as the original DK, it could be implying that the arcade games are set in the distant past

I mentioned something like this earlier

[peak pulsar]

there could also just be a timeskip or something. We don't know how this is all gonna play out.

[pliant crane]

I find it weird how the bros were “born” in the mushroom kingdom, randomly moved to new donk(?) and then one day years later just happened to stumble upon their old home again

[plain apex]

That depends if they stumbled upon it at all

[peak pulsar]

they might've just followed Bowser's Minions through the sewers

[plain apex]

Also I can excuse that plothole given the actual games rarely used the Brooklyn story

[frigid ingot]

I still think that's stumbling

like they're getting lost either way

[peak pulsar]

yeah

[pliant crane]

And then they make it sound like the bros had never seen this mysterious world before which makes even less sense because they were kids there

Unless their family moved to new donk soon after they were “born”

[peak pulsar]

I mean, do you remember much about when you were a baby?

they probably only have a vague recollection

[plain apex]

You know what, that could actually be a reason for them entering the mushroom kingdom that way

Like they find out all of these turtles are causing havoc in the sewers and the Bros follow them

[pliant crane]

Yeah that’s what I assume

[pliant crane]

The family was probably only there for a year at best, and then moved away.

Hence the bros having no recollection of the kingdom

[plain apex]

We have never seen them in the kingdom as kids

Only babies

[peak pulsar]

with them getting kidnapped, and then being smack in the middle of an alien invasion... yeah if I was the bros' parents I would want to move to a safer place too, lol

[frigid ingot]

(and adults)

[plain apex]

Maybe it’s a good thing it can be it’s own canon
So it doesn’t have to take random Yoshi games into account

[frigid ingot]

why would they

[pliant crane]

Okay yeah the family definitely moved shortly after receiving the babies

[frigid ingot]

in the first place

Mario isn't in any of them except for the ones with "island" in the title

[plain apex]

Those are the ones I’m referring to

But actually they could still be referenced given Kamek’s here

[peak pulsar]

The most I could see is a hint or recap of Yoshi's Island in the opening

[frigid ingot]

Kamek is basically broken out of YI

[peak pulsar]

like if they did the whole "here's my life" montage up until the present

[frigid ingot]

he's a mainline staple

[plain apex]

I mean Yoshi’s Island is the most tied to mainline Mario out of any of the character spin-offs

[pliant crane]

Yeah, like maybe there’s some quick backstory narration at the beginning and the narrator says some funny shit like “and they even rode on dinosaurs?!!”

[plain apex]

Plus the first one literally had the name Super Mario World 2, even if it was mostly for marketing

[peak pulsar]

"what's up with that?"

[pliant crane]

Speaking of, you guys think Yoshi will be in the movie at all?

I know he wasn’t in the cast list because they’re definitely not gonna make him talk talk, but like, so far there’s been this weird absence of him.

[frigid ingot]

only if they want to call back to YI

[plain apex]

Well if so they’re likely gonna promote him once we actually see the movie

[frigid ingot]

yeah he's pretty marketable

[peak pulsar]

Considering DK is in it for some reason, I think Yoshi could probably fit in without being too weird. But idk.

[frigid ingot]

yeah but I wouldn't be surprised by his absence

especially if this is an origin film

[plain apex]

If the movie’s supposed to be a new origin story, then it could also be the origin of the original Donkey Kong

[frigid ingot]

DK is more integral in that regard

so DK has to be here for it to be an origin story

not necessarily Yoshi

[pliant crane]

Why do I see them making the goombas do minion shit

Like they mess around with like bowser’s equipment and get into waaacky scenarios

[plain apex]

I mean whatever Bowser’s minions do will likely just be things they already do in the Mario franchise

Like they don’t need to be literal copies

[pliant crane]

What if someone d i e s

[frigid ingot]

we've already seen Nintendo themselves do minion antics with their characters

like with the toads in the MKT commercials

and in the Pikmin shorts

[plain apex]

Wonder if the lethal incompetence of the space pirates count

Cause the Prime games imply these guys are not that bright at all

[pliant crane]

Oh my god they blew up a bridge 😭

[plain apex]

They’ll all voiced by Key

[pliant crane]

I’m pretty sure I’ve literally heard him do the toad voice before

[plain apex]

That one Hotel Transylvania 2 scene?

[pliant crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ff2VOra7gQs?feature=share

Nearly spot on here

[peak pulsar]

yep

[frigid ingot]

we're expecting him to do just a generic Toad impression that basically anyone can do?

[pliant crane]

I mean I want him to sound like toad-

[peak pulsar]

we'd like him to

lots of people can do Toad voices, but few can do it as naturally as we hear here

[pliant crane]

Like bruh what if toad just sounded like regular Keegan in the movie 😭

[strange mortar]

That would be great

[frigid ingot]

I mean I was hoping he'd get a voice that's not purposefully grating

just seems to be playing into the meme too much

something like the DiC cartoons would be nice

[pliant crane]

I was about to mention those yeah

I wouldn’t be upset if they did something like DiC toad

Bruh I typed WOULDNT

I’ve been getting so many autocorrects recently jeez

[peak pulsar]

I mean I don't think he should be screaming. Or as grating as he is here. But I'd like him to at least play into it a little bit

[pliant crane]

On the subject of VA’s that can pull off their characters, I mentioned it a little earlier but holy shit Kamek

Kamek’s VA is perfect

[plain apex]

Too bad most people that saw the cast reveal barely noticed him due to laughing or raging at the cast beforehand

Like most of the reactions are just the same uncontrollable laughter throughout the entire thing

[pliant crane]

https://youtu.be/lL-MBKJ2txk

[frigid ingot]

Kevin Michael Richardson is a really talented VA

he could be the entire cast as far as I'm concerned

[peak pulsar]

He has so much range

[peak pulsar]

was about to say that honestly

[pliant crane]

Tbh almost this entire cast his fire

The only real concerns for me are Mario and DK

But even then DK is gonna have that funny ass laugh so 🤷‍♂️

[radiant glen]

Me too

[pliant crane]

Can’t wait for the trailer in 2084

But fr I’m so hyped for this movie idec

[stuck ridge]

Yeah, me too.

[pliant crane]

I’ve always wanted to see these characters like really interact and have dialogue and shit

Fully animated and with voice acting

Also just movie stuff in general. Mario being cinematic just works somehow

Like the entirety of galaxy proves that

[stuck ridge]

Yeah, it does.

[bitter acorn]

i agree heavily

interactions with full voice acting is something i’ve always loved in mario games

[granite cove]

RTHERE IT IS

https://twitter.com/ny_comic_con/status/1572979063656005632?s=46&t=v3g-sTCT6PI75jEvMDfBAQ

New York Comic Con (@NY_Comic_Con)

Join us October 6th at 4pm ET for the teaser trailer premiere of Nintendo & Illumination’s upcoming Super Mario Bros. film, releasing April 7, 2023.

Twitter · Sep 22, 2022, 4:00 PM

[stuck ridge]

YESSSSSSS!!!

[frigid ingot]

this is weird considering Nintnedo hasn't ben at NYCC for years

[fossil bison]

the day of the apocalypse

[simple wasp]

https://youtu.be/OzLhXesNkCI?t=94

[restive gyro]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

[granite cove]

im scared

but excited but also scared

[lucid compass]

took em long enough

im not watching it but i will sure end up seeing images

[junior heron]

I'm not ready I'm not ready I'm not ready I'm not-

[urban root]

10 seconds of mario on screen saying It's-a Me in pratt voice

thats my bingo card

[simple wasp]

same

[frigid ingot]

it'll be like the end of the Mario episode of Gumball

[bitter acorn]

WE made it

we did it guys

WE DID IT

[vital viper]

This is huge for foreman spike fans (me) (I am the only one)

[frigid ingot]

who

I only see Mario

[gilded ledge]

This is gonna be exciting!!

[humble zealot]

OH NO.

This could go one of two ways

1. The teaser looks to be pretty decent and nothing too bad or too good.
   OR
2. It's gonna be garbage and we'll all laugh at it for weeks.

[plain apex]

I think it’s safe to just expect something really average

[balmy coyote]

i'm expecting average with a side of baby humor

[timber pecan]

We don't talk about that blue creature who goes super fast.

[peak pulsar]

mario will appear and dab, with a cool little jingle that reveals the name of the film

[timber pecan]

Holy question block-ians though, we're finally getting a movie teaser after all of this

[urban root]

chat having a meltdown when its just called Super Mario Bros.

[oak tartan]

This is it luigi

[plain apex]

I would say there isn’t going to be excess toilet humor but then I remember this is what Mario’s allowed to do in Japan

[timber pecan]

That's a different story here

Especially when Mario in the manga has canonically went to Hell (for a brief moment)

[granite cove]

wtf

[timber pecan]

Also what the fuck though

[fickle token]

YAHOO

[pliant crane]

LETS FUCKING GOOO

FINALLY

IM LITERALLY SO HYPE RN

Actually wait I just realized how satire that sounded 💀

I’m genuinely hype y’all I promise 😭

[strange mortar]

Can't wait for the memes on twitter 15 secs after the trailer drops

[pliant crane]

I want Kamek

Please oh please let me see Kamek

Also hear Kamek, that would be cool too-

[plain apex]

It would be cooler if we had things to actually hype for instead of nothing but memes

[fossil bison]

it would be cooler if the movie wasn't being made by illumination

[strange mortar]

I'm good with both

[plain apex]

It would be cool if this is the movie that shows they can actually do something on par with their first film again

It’s a much riskier bet but it would be much more rewarding than if it was just handed to someone else

[urban root]

it would be cool if i got some mcdonalds for lunch

[plain apex]

Go for it

[strange mortar]

It would be cool if I had a pet rock

[plain apex]

It would be so awesome

[peak pulsar]

it would be so cool

[simple wasp]

[plain apex]

It would be the most incredible video game movie

The world has ever seen

[placid bramble]

I saw a video from super Wii bros 08 and immediately woke

[peak pulsar]

the screens would light up

[plain apex]

With real Bob-ombs

[umbral sluice]

Jack Black Bowser is what I'm really excited for

[peak pulsar]

And Special Effects

[urban root]

Hello. My name is Shigeru Miyamoto. I am the creator of such series as Super Mario Bros., the Legend of Zelda, and Pikmin. I'm here today to deliver some news about the upcoming Super Mario film, being produced in collaboration with Illumination and us at Nintendo.

We have decided to cancel the movie, and the franchise, in response to how fucking annoying you all have been about this film. My inbox is flooded with people asking me, "When's the trailer?". Here is your trailer. Please leave me alone. Let me make my Pikmin games in peace.

[plain apex]

He’s just an old man who wants to tend to his garden

How wholesome

[peak pulsar]

The teaser will actually be the pikmin segment from the direct

[plain apex]

The Mario characters are actually Pikmin

[peak pulsar]

except they'll forget to trim the ending and the rest of the direct will play too

[plain apex]

Anyway the whole “be so awesome” bit reminded me that both movies share the same directors

And look what happened when everyone was anticipating a complete failure

This movie even more so because of how much TTG was hated back then

[urban root]

Fandom Warz

[peak pulsar]

no longer a sidekick

[placid bramble]

October 7th is my birthday
And movie trailer happens October 6th
That’s a tiny bit close to a birthday present

[fossil bison]

success doesn't equal quality

[plain apex]

It would be a funny coincidence

[foggy kestrel]

It's time

[plain apex]

It’s also interesting because those directors aren’t even in the typical set of Illumination directors

[urban root]

what is everyone gonna do when the movies out and theres nothing left to talk about

[foggy kestrel]

This movie had haunted me for a while now time to see if it's worth it

[urban root]

its a teaser

[fossil bison]

talk about the upcoming donkey kong movie of course

[urban root]

(watches 8 seconds of chris pratt mario) This movie is going to be. Awesome.

[foggy kestrel]

It's gonna be a trailer though not a short teaser

[fossil bison]

teaser trailer

those are short

[urban root]

it literally says teaser

if it was A Trailer it would just say trailer

[warped horizon]

Imagine it ends up like sonic movie first trailer

[plain apex]

Wonder if we’ll get it after the premiere or at the same time as the people at NYCC

[foggy kestrel]

Falls with illuminations trailer strat

[strange mortar]

Beg for a sequel

[placid bramble]

Jokes on you
There’s no humans or live actions
Or uh meows in it

[plain apex]

Honestly the fact that they completely avoided that pitfall altogether is nice

[granite cove]

so...

its not teaser?

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1572979829498122246?s=20&t=Umd2u5bXA1gWoTl_zsL5Zw

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

The first trailer for ‘SUPER MARIO BROS’, starring Chris Pratt as Mario, will premiere at NYCC on October 6.

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Twitter · Sep 22, 2022, 4:03 PM

ok

[umbral sluice]

no, they said it's a teaser trailer

[granite cove]

tweet and picture confuses me lmao

[fossil bison]

picture is the official source

[granite cove]

i got myself confused lmao

[umbral sluice]

teaser trailers are meant to be the "first look, then title card"

[granite cove]

ignore me 💀

[umbral sluice]

i wonder what licensed music they'll use for the trailer

or maybe a mario franchise music

[fossil bison]

wake up in the mornin feeling p diddy

[placid bramble]

So Let’s see here
We Have Mario - Chris Patt Duh
Peach - Taylor Joy
Luigi - Charlie Day
Bowser - Jack Black (Duh)
DK - Seth Rogen
Toad - Keegan Michael
Cranky Kong - Fred Armisen
Kamek - Kevin Micheal
Foreman spike - Sebastian Maniscalo

who’s next in line for casting

[strange mortar]

https://youtu.be/0gp7PSzi-uc

[umbral sluice]

i just realised the teaser trailer will be dropped a day after the day mario kart tour un-gachas itself

so bizarre

[foggy kestrel]

A teaser is probably still a trailer imo

Since both words are interchangeable

[umbral sluice]

i'm thinking that there will be 3 major trailers max

teaser, official trailer (probably synopsis), and final trailer (where they put more story)

and the other trailers be something special, like superbowl and tie-ins

[urban root]

a teaser is a first look

its not going to be anything in-depth

we probably wont get that much

[umbral shuttle]

yippee!!!!!!

[urban root]

otherwise it would just be called a trailer

[umbral shuttle]

its the most we've gotten since like

voice actors being revealed

[urban root]

yes

[umbral sluice]

keep watch on this, maybe

[umbral shuttle]

elmor pinks gonna wake up with no twitter account rip

[umbral sluice]

i bet they already secured the account by universal or nintendo social media rep

[umbral shuttle]

shoutouts to supermariouk my favourite twitter account

[umbral sluice]

15 days until this is over

[plain apex]

No

Gru will always rise

[umbral sluice]

also

15 days until his profile is updated

[plain apex]

14 days until Charles updates his profile to this

[astral wharf]

The first look at the cinematic masterpiece in 14 days

It's about time

[placid bramble]

And I thinks it’s 2 weeks

[plain apex]

Yes

[umbral sluice]

I can't wait for "It's-a Mario Time!" and Mario'd all over those Goombas

[plain apex]

Leaked footage

[peak pulsar]

classic ytp

I remember this one

[plain apex]

This one bit has lived rent free in my head for over 10 years

[peak pulsar]

I just love sharing a cozy hot cup of Lapsang Souchong Tea

[umbral sluice]

https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1572996968003305472

Nintendo Everything (@NinEverything)

It's September 23, 2022 in Japan, so Nintendo is now 133 years old. Happy birthday!

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Twitter · Sep 22, 2022, 5:11 PM

the movie trailer announcement on nintendo's birthday

in japan time

how could they timed this?

[peak pulsar]

rewatching it for the first time in years and man it's all coming back.

Even noticed some stuff that I still say to this day that I forgot where it came from.

[charred tulip]

The only thing I want to see in the trailer, is Toad saying "Illumination" (Or Mario, but because it's not Charles Martinet's portrayal this time, keep it for Toad)

[foggy kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZLXyqbYOc

this is what i’m expecting for the teaser

[foggy kestrel]

idk why they’d avertise a 30 second clip for nothing for thos big of an event

[urban root]

why are you expecting that

this is a full trailer

they literally said a teaser trailer. why are you not expecting htat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcxL43SircA

this movie literally had a teaser

or the first one did at least

[umbral sluice]

teasers are first look, official trailers reveals some of the synopsis, and final trailer reveals more on the story

[plain apex]

Funny you mention The Last Wish
This is the first DreamWorks movie Chris Meladrandi is an executive producer on
And it has actually great animation

[urban root]

because dreamworks has money to spend on animation

[foggy kestrel]

and i guess illumination doesn’t?

[umbral sluice]

imagine in the logo, Toad will scream "ILLUMINATION" so loud, the logo breaks into "MINION"

[urban root]

no illumination tends to not

[umbral sluice]

and Minion

[sturdy dirge]

wtf minion is in illumination

[urban root]

i do not think executive producers tend to mean much in the way of the actual quality of the animation

that doesnt really make a lot of sense

[umbral sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpL7Bb3C8QQ

i wonder what the mario movie will bring us

here's the most recent one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSHEX4HsVgc

[foggy kestrel]

The Minion gets a super mushroom and squashs the other minion

[plain apex]

But most of DreamWorks’s movies nowadays have much lower budgets than in the past

[urban root]

puss in boots came out in 2011

[plain apex]

Yes

[urban root]

nowadays does not matter

[plain apex]

But it does

[urban root]

you're comparing a 2011 movie to a 2023 one

[plain apex]

Last Wish is now and it likely won’t cost 130 million dollars

[urban root]

and is chris working on it

[plain apex]

He’s an executive producer

[urban root]

so he is barely working on it

to repeat the same thing that has been said hundreds of thousands of times before

illumination's entire modus operandi is low budget animation

[plain apex]

It’s still something he put his name on

[urban root]

animation is becoming more efficient

as more stylized animation leaves more room for the actual animation part of the budgeting

[plain apex]

Meaning there’s really no excuse for Illumination to make movies that look cheap anymore

[urban root]

their excuse is that it runs in their blood

[plain apex]

It doesn’t have to stay that way

[urban root]

it is the purpose of the studio

[plain apex]

Again, that doesn’t mean it literally has to stay that way or else

[urban root]

the movie will have fine animation. it will not do anything completely mindblowing and it will be better than the games

its not going to look like shit

[plain apex]

Yes

[urban root]

dreamworks historically cares more about its animation than illumination does

that is the core idea here

[urban root]

is there something wrong with this statement

[plain apex]

No

[urban root]

okay

[umbral sluice]

so, in similar vein to mario + rabbids e3 reveal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZviy922u4M

[urban root]

anything else then

[plain apex]

But it shows that they can be cost efficient and not sacrifice the actual quality of the animation

[urban root]

i dont care

this isn't an argument

[plain apex]

It literally is

[urban root]

i am literally saying "illumination focuses more on its budget and dreamworks doesnt"

if you dont have a problem with this statement then dont try and argue with me about it

[plain apex]

You’re saying it has to be that way

[urban root]

no i'm literally not

[plain apex]

Is this not that?

[urban root]

dreamworks has always cared about its animation

its a fucking. pixar rival studio

come on

[astral wharf]

Mario movie bout to be the best animated thing since lm3

[frigid ingot]

they'll do more than just show the one minute teaser at the venue

[astral wharf]

Best animated Mario thing*

[frigid ingot]

like it'll be a presentation

so yeah it's worth more than just the time of the teaser itself

[plain apex]

I’m not arguing that at all

[urban root]

then what the hell are you arguing

because its nothing im talking about

im very tired of pointless arguments for no reason about the super mario bros movie

[plain apex]

You’re arguing that Illumimation is incapable of change

[urban root]

no im not

you are imagining this

i am elaborating on what i said in response to that post

[plain apex]

You’re saying being cheap is the purpose of their studio and it’s in their lifeblood

[urban root]

you are twisting my words into being against illumination

i said dreamworks has put budget into their animation because its what they do

illumination did not start that way

they, Historically, make budget animation films

because it was the purpose of the studio

[foggy kestrel]

most western animated studios are though

[urban root]

dreamworks is

The

pixar rival

literally created to be one

from ex-disney people

[plain apex]

I’m not arguing that at all

I’m sorry what I’m arguing is unable to get to you

[urban root]

what you are arguing is literally pointless to the statement i made

you did not have to say it

[plain apex]

I wanted to

[urban root]

you shouldn'tve because i dont want to have this discussion for the millionth time especialyl when it wasn't my point to begin with

[plain apex]

That or I get caught up in an argument and try to find something to latch to

[urban root]

me saying "dreamworks has historically cared more about its animation than illumination" shouldnt be a statement that sparks an argument

[plain apex]

My initial point was that Chris didn’t have to put his name on a movie with great animation given the nature of his own studio

[urban root]

its business

if he was the producer of the first movie its likely he will put his name on hte sequel

executive producer is as close to hands off as you can get while still being credited

unless you're like a production baby

[plain apex]

I just thought it was interesting to note

[urban root]

its like how lord and miller put their names on films they dont write or produce

[plain apex]

Ok

[urban root]

when their entire style is them writing it

and as soon as you lose that you can tell

[pliant crane]

Okay I’m actually scared now cuz pretty soon we’re gonna see if this movie is actually gonna be awesome or not-

At least we’ll get a rough idea

[frigid ingot]

so that's why Mitchells vs the Machines sucks

[urban root]

TRUE!!!

[plain apex]

Of course you’d say that

[urban root]

LOL

listen i like clone high i'm ride or die

[plain apex]

I did as well

[urban root]

im very well versed with the lord & miller writing style

[fossil bison]

personally I prefer dick figures

[urban root]

mitchells didnt have it

[plain apex]

I mean imo it had the feel

[frigid ingot]

Mitchells had neither Lord nor Miller working on the writing or story

Spiderverse has Lord

[cinder venture]

Lordless
Millerless

[frigid ingot]

yeah

[strange mortar]

I still need to watch that movie

[cinder venture]

its ok

[frigid ingot]

watch Ron's Gone Wrong intead

[plain apex]

Go ahead

[frigid ingot]

that movie has actual jokes

[plain apex]

Even if you don’t like it you’ll still actually be able to say why

[urban root]

its why i like lego movie 2

lord & miller were on screenplay and story

honestly all the lego movies are like Really good its insane they stopped

ninjago also banged

[frigid ingot]

Ninjago was good?

[plain apex]

I haven’t seen 2 since it came out so i can’t fully judge

[urban root]

yea it was really good

[strange mortar]

I still haven't watched the lego movies

[plain apex]

Most people like myself will disagree with that

[urban root]

lego 2 is a little muted but ninjago was like Surprisingly really good

[plain apex]

I haven’t seen either of the main LEGO movies in years

[strange mortar]

The lego batman movie was amazing

[restive gyro]

i think i like lego 2 more than the first one

[urban root]

oh wow they weren't on ninjago

THATS a movie that feels like a lord & miller written film

[cinder venture]

ive only ever seen the first lego movie and it was pretty good

[plain apex]

Even I liked it I’d still call Ninjago the weakest of the Lego movies

Saw LEGO Batman again not too long ago and thought it was just alright
I used to really love it back then

Think my biggest issue is the third act takes up a really big chunk of the runtime

[restive gyro]

definitely didn’t need the classic WB IP flex

that was like the genesis of that trend tho

[urban root]

oh jesus chris pratt is going to be in multiversus isnt he

[plain apex]

If they’re able to get Emmet

[strange mortar]

The triforce

[plain apex]

I know WB doesn’t have the film rights to LEGO anymore

[restive gyro]

i feel like they’d add wildstyle if they got any lego characters

wasn’t sge in another lego game recently

[urban root]

looks at the mv leaks

looks back at chat

[strange mortar]

Me still waiting for classic mode

[restive gyro]

is emmet supposed to be in mv

[strange mortar]

Maybe

[restive gyro]

yes

[fossil bison]

maybe not

who knows if they gave up on characters they don't own

i forgot lebron james was in the game nevermind

[plain apex]

I mean I think WB is still going to own their own LEGO movies

Just that they can’t make any more

Which makes sense when you see how little the latter two movies made

[strange mortar]

The lego mario movie

[plain apex]

Well Universal does have the LEGO film rights at the moment

[frigid ingot]

I dunno why the second movie underperformed

[plain apex]

Because fatigue

[restive gyro]

bad marketing

[strange mortar]

All I know Duplo was in there

[plain apex]

Lego Batman and Ninjago were only 7 months apart

[fossil bison]

the lego ninjago movie makes zero sense

[plain apex]

And then the second part was only little over a year after that

[fossil bison]

it's weirdly introspective and meta of ninjago despite ninjago not having the longevity that batman has

or variety

like ninjago was just a tv show before the movie

now it's two

[plain apex]

It really doesn’t work from a marketing standpoint
LEGO and Batman are very general things that most people recognize
Ninjago’s only really going to appeal to LEGO fans

[sturdy dirge]

illumination is my hero 🤩

[fossil bison]

and a movie

[urban root]

i love that ninjago hsa nothing to do wiht the show because i will never watch the show and the movie is very good on its own

[plain apex]

It also barely resembles said show

[urban root]

it is really funny

it pissed off a lot of kids

[sturdy dirge]

why

[plain apex]

I bet

Because it has nothing to do with the show

[fossil bison]

i think it's kinda lame as a whole

might be because of that

good production quality though

[peak pulsar]

my brother-in-law said his favorite lego movie is the Lego Ninjago one

him and my sister own all 4 lego movies

[urban root]

its very good

[strange mortar]

Wholesome

[urban root]

i honestly really like the idea of just doing that with it

like it being its own interpretation of the source material

because hte sets obviously tell their own story but the show isnt hte only way of handling that

[dreamy tartan]

I mean, Lego Batman also takes heavy liberties from the comics

[restive gyro]

i remember not liking the ninjago movie (i was also a big fan of rhe tv show)

[peak pulsar]

I still haven't seen the Lego Ninjago Movie or Lego Movie 2

[urban root]

batman is also a giant franchise with multiple continuities

[restive gyro]

i don’t really remember it tho

[dreamy tartan]

true

[plain apex]

Batman has countless adaptations and interpretations so what

[fossil bison]

the difference is batman was a million things before the movie while ninjago was only really one

[granite cove]

show?

[fossil bison]

and that's more or less what the batman movie was about

[sturdy dirge]

damn u didnt know about the lego ninjago show

[granite cove]

not even this?

https://gfycat.com/cookedspiritedastarte

[plain apex]

It’s still running to this day

[restive gyro]

making a basically reboot of a kids tv show with a cult following was a bold choice at least

[sturdy dirge]

What

[dreamy tartan]

People are insane about children’s cartoons

[sturdy dirge]

wtf it is still going

[stuck ridge]

what the fuck, it has like 15 seasons

[plain apex]

Yup

[frigid ingot]

is everything made of Lego in the movie

like stylitically

[peak pulsar]

I had a ninjago set as a kid

[fossil bison]

well it's like a reboot so it's actually like two separate shows no

[plain apex]

Still
That shows how successful of a brand it is

[fossil bison]

mostly everything

[plain apex]

Like other LEGO brands don’t last too long before they move on to the next

Like you can tell this movie is dated because every single LEGO brand it tries to push is long gone

[peak pulsar]

Lego Friends 🤮

[urban root]

that name is crazy

holy shit Clutch Powers

[strange mortar]

Lego brawls exists

[peak pulsar]

The Rock Monsters 😭

[fossil bison]

clutch powers appears in the ninjago show by the way

[plain apex]

It’s also relevant because Clutch Powers would later appear in the Ninjago show

[urban root]

this is so funny

[frigid ingot]

I actually liked this one Lego show that was city-themed

[peak pulsar]

Watching Clutch Powers with my friend was the best sleepover ever

[plain apex]

IT WAS A DARK AND STORMY NIGHT

[frigid ingot]

I can't remember th ename of it

I think it's just Lego City Adventures

[fossil bison]

wasn't it a series of shorts

[frigid ingot]

no it's fully lengthed

oh it was on Nickelodeon

[plain apex]

It’s really funny seeing Clutch Powers use the word LEGO a lot and how the logo is literally on the characters
And then the theatrical movies don’t say LEGO even once

[peak pulsar]

I got in major trouble at school for pretending to play "Lego Rock Monsters" with my friend because it was "too violent" even though we weren't even touching each other

[strange mortar]

Bruj

[plain apex]

You’re teachers were pussies

[restive gyro]

im surprised we’ve never got a theatrical lego star wars

[peak pulsar]

we'd move onto different games and get in trouble more.

[restive gyro]

feels like a slam dunk

[plain apex]

Right now Disney’s content with having LEGO Star Wars specials for Disney+

Maybe it would make fun of all of the dumb Star Wars elements like the TTG movie did for DC movies

[strange mortar]

I used to call Darth vader,Dark vader for some reason

[plain apex]

Same

I thought Stormtrooper said Stromtrooper

[restive gyro]

well its not happening now

[plain apex]

Yup

[peak pulsar]

eventually a rule was created: No made-up games.

One day we said "hey wait, Mario Kart isn't made-up"
so we ran around the playground pretending to drive and throw items. The only violent thing was that one guy was throwing fireballs.

We got in huge trouble. Lost like a 3rd of our recesses for the rest of the school year. And had to eat lunch separately with 6th graders.

[restive gyro]

i guess WB owned the lego license for almost the entire disney star wars time

[plain apex]

How out of touch are these teachers

[restive gyro]

and ofc now they’ll never release a star wars movie in theatres ever again

[dreamy tartan]

A blue shell killed their parents

[strange mortar]

The heck?
Why were your teachers so strict?

[peak pulsar]

idk. The following year I remember seeing kids in kindergarten pretending to play star wars and shooting each other with blasters and physically hitting each other.

They never got in trouble.

[strange mortar]

Bruj

[plain apex]

I can only assume you went somewhere like here

[peak pulsar]

idk it was a weird moment, because it's like the only time something like that happened. 1st grade was full of stuff like this and then everything else was normal and fine.

maybe it was my 1st grade teacher specifically

I wonder if she is going to watch the Mario movie

[plain apex]

Not sure why you’d wonder if she of all people would see it

[peak pulsar]

because this is the Mario movie channel

she will see Mario throw fireballs and threaten to take away all his recesses

[plain apex]

Maybe she likes Minions or the people in the cast

[peak pulsar]

and make him eat lunch with the 6th graders

[plain apex]

Like I’ve seen someone here once say something like “why would an adult willingly subjugate themselves to Illumination” but you’d be surprised

[urban root]

this is an insane conversation to look at

[strange mortar]

Boredom?

[plain apex]

For plenty of adults sure

But for some people it’s exactly what they’re looking for

[urban root]

Oh my god

[plain apex]

That’s why they’re the studio that panders to the general audience the most

And it usually works

[urban root]

I hope mario looks like cartoons i think it would be fun

[plain apex]

You said it’ll most likely look at least fine and I can agree to that

[cinder venture]

knowing illumination and knowing nintendo i think mid is the best we can possibly hope for

[plain apex]

Yeah that’s about right

At least that’s what I expect the most

They’re more than capable of doing something on the level of the first Despicable Me

It’s why it’s so frustrating seeing where they are now

[cinder venture]

kids laugh at funny fart minions tho and they make their parents spend $30 a ticket to see that happen at the movies (or $30 to rent/""""buy"""""" it at home)

[foggy kestrel]

dick figures peeps gives some hope for me

[urban root]

i hope chat knows how insane of a sentence that is to post multiple times

[cinder venture]

mario movie being anything remotely similar to dick figures will tear the fabric of reality

[plain apex]

That is the definition of insanity after all

[foggy kestrel]

the action and comedy was great in it

[cinder venture]

"insanity is posting the same thing multiple times and expecting different results" -Albert Einstein

[foggy kestrel]

but i mean sonic movie peeps called "stop stabbing me"

[sturdy dirge]

i have hope in the mario movie bc last time i went to the theater they gave me free popcorn and soda

[plain apex]

Even if it’s mostly pretty stiff I do expect them to try that to an extent

[vital viper]

"a rushed game is forever good" - diogenes

[strange mortar]

"Amongus"
-George washing machine

[oak tartan]

this is true. sunshine

[dreamy tartan]

this is the illumination mario movie thread

[plain apex]

Me in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIMpVunf5Co

[strange mortar]

Mario peeing cameo?

[oak tartan]

warp pipe toilet joke

[bitter acorn]

this is huge for us (there is actually 2 foreman spike fans) (i am the other)

[frigid ingot]

I think the best I can hope for this movie is that Mario characters are re-stylized to actually work in 3D

[plain apex]

If they can tweak them just enough to where they work better with complex animation and expression then that would be cool

[frigid ingot]

yeah I think even Illumination can handle doing that at the bare minimum

3D Mario characters are still weird puppets

it doesn't really feel like they got actual 3D animators and modelers to design them

unlike their 2D incarnations which did

[plain apex]

Some of the designs you can tell really weren’t made with expression in mind

[stuck ridge]

I haven't seen anything on how the characters look, and you guys are already talking about them? Where'd you see them?

[frigid ingot]

no we're speculating

[stuck ridge]

Ok

[steep hill]

oh god finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[balmy coyote]

ah yes, here's movie mario's design

[plain apex]

It’s actually this

[stoic pumice]

I’m late but I’m sooo hyped for NYCC now!!

[stuck ridge]

So, I assume they'll release the trailer online at same time it debuts at NYCC?

[south summit]

I need ideas for mario movie trailer / movie bingo cards

[stuck ridge]

Oooh, here's mine: Mario appears and says it's-a me, Ma- and then he coughs and then Chris Pratt's voice kicks in.

[plain apex]

Is there anything I haven’t heard for almost a year

[stuck ridge]

Okay, how about this? Trailer opens and Mario says "Luigi, looks whats on TikTok".

[plain apex]

Chris Pratt speaks and he sounds almost exactly like Martinet

[cloud tiger]

Anya Taylor-Joy Peach.

[dreamy tartan]

Mario jumps, starts speaking like chris pratt, then gets a heart attack and dies on the floor

The Mario movie is announced to be cancelled after this, along with the entirety of the Mario franchise

Chris Pratt disappears during the trailer’s airing and he is never seen again

[stuck ridge]

This is true^^

It will happen like that

[urban root]

after the trailer ends very unceremoniously with a fade out chris pratt walks onstage then falls into a trapdoor

it looks scripted but about a week later we still dont hear back from him

[peak pulsar]

The movie still happens but it's actually now a funeral service for Mario

[plain apex]

Captain Lou Albano rises from the dead

[stuck ridge]

Mario comes out and says "Thank you for watching the trailer to my movie" and then title card.

[pliant crane]

In two weeks

DK twerking scene

Finally

[timber pecan]

Aaaawwwkwaaaard...

[cloud tiger]

Super Luigi Series.

With Luigi marrying Peach.

[dreamy tartan]

Finally. Daisy and Birdo can be together at last

[bitter acorn]

https://twitter.com/prattprattpratt/status/1573106892507058176?s=46&t=vwni-2vkJrLzcT6FYA03xQ

Chris Pratt (@prattprattpratt)

I just saw the teaser trailer for the very first time myself. I am simply blown away. You will be too, I promise you. This one is VERY special. Cannot wait!!! #SuperMarioBrosMovie

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Twitter · Sep 23, 2022, 12:28 AM

!!

[floral notch]

I can't wait for chris pratt "mysterious" disappearance

[pliant crane]

what

“Teaser trailer premiere” wasn’t the title I was imagining for the Mario movie, but whatever

[vagrant sapphire]

Was already posted multiple times lmao

[sturdy dirge]

pratts tweet was?

[restive gyro]

i haven't seen pratt's tweet

[peak pulsar]

same

[restive gyro]

not that his words mean anything

[floral notch]

it's not much

it's just him being excited

wait shit

[restive gyro]

i'm pretty sure christopher prattrick would get excited by a sermon at the vatican

[floral notch]

I just posted this again didn't I

[peak pulsar]

yes

[restive gyro]

i thought you were doing a bit

[peak pulsar]

same

[floral notch]

woops

[pliant crane]

I actually got hyped that someone was excited from the teaser and then I saw it was Chris Pratt 😭

[frigid ingot]

did he really only watch it an hour ago

I guess it just got finished

[urban root]

i guess yea it could cut that close

realistically speaking

[dreamy tartan]

WHO’S READY TO GET EXCITED OVER THE MARIO MOVIE⁉️
*in the audience, there is nobody but a single skunk*

[pliant crane]

Can’t wait to hear Mario sound like Chris Pratt 💀

He’d better do like a Brooklyn accent or something

I don’t want regular chris pratt 😭

[frigid ingot]

he's gonna do a generic shounen protagonist dub voice

[pliant crane]

Wouldn’t be surprised lol

[bitter acorn]

chris pratts reaction to the trailer lmao

[mortal trail]

nah get fucked why does it have to be 6am my time

movie is movie though

[clear owl]

This is gonna be awful and I'm gonna love it

[pliant crane]

Bruh I’d wake up at 5 for this trailer if I had to idec

[simple wasp]

we've yet to know if its a trailer or like a 10 second teaser trailer

[pliant crane]

I really hope it’s an actual trailer I swear

I mean they wouldn’t promote it like this if it was just a 10 sec thing right?

[clear owl]

If I remember it said teaser trailer

So I'm not expecting a ton

[urban root]

i dont think anyone makes 10 second teasers anymore truthfully but a teaser trailer does also typically not last long

you might get a minute of content at most

but probably closer to 30-45 seconds

[clear owl]

Usually around 30 seconds

Yeah

[urban root]

the 10 second teaser stuff is usually to like

Announce the thing that is happening to begin with

[clear owl]

The announcement of the announcement

[urban root]

yea

[dreamy tartan]

I hope it’s 5 seconds long and that they only show Mario’s hat under a spotlight in a black void while soundclips from Mario 64 play with the echo filter on, then show the movie logo and end it there

[urban root]

ideally history would rewrite itself so this movie would have never been a thing so as to never make anyone endure this "hype" cycle but sadly,

[dreamy tartan]

I hope someone accidentally deletes all the film footage

[foggy kestrel]

lmao the teaser isnt gonna be that short

they need trailers too show for other films

plus illumination “teasers” are pretty meaty anyway

[urban root]

you seem very sure this teaser trailer will be a trailer

i dont think i have the energy to make this a bet but when they are literally advertising it as a teaser i dont think its wise to expect the world

a teaser is typically a short but localized amount of film footage without a lot of editing meant to really advertise yet

[foggy kestrel]

but i’m not

it’s gonna at least 1-maybe 2 minutes

[peak pulsar]

Me when the teaser trailer is actually an image of a real trailer with the ?-Block logo on it from the casting poster

[urban root]

meanwhile a trailer is specifically designed ot catch your eye and sell you on the whole thing

[foggy kestrel]

not 30 seconds of footage

[urban root]

its not gonna be 2 minutes

you are acutally fucking out of your mind

you'll be lucky if its a minute and a half

[peak pulsar]

yeah a teaser trailer is a minute and a half at most

[frigid ingot]

we already posted examples of teaser trailers

and they're about a minute

[urban root]

a minute- let alone 30 seconds- is a lot of time to have a cohesive narrative

[peak pulsar]

yeah looking at Illumination's past ones, the longest one from recent memory is Sing's which is a minute and a half. The others look like they're about a minute or less

[urban root]

or just showing you Something thats just long enough to resonate

[peak pulsar]

and Mario definitely doesn't need a really long teaser to get people excited.

[urban root]

but that's the distinct difference between a teaser and a trailer- the trailer is designed to pitch the movie to you, as a full synopsis. a teaser is not

[peak pulsar]

yep

[urban root]

a teaser is, As The Name Implies, teasing you with a glimpse of what's to come

all we need to see is how everyone looks adn how they sound

[peak pulsar]

most of the time the teaser isn't even a glimpse of the movie itself, but rather a standalone simple animation.
And I think that's what everyone should expect from the Mario one.
I think it would be cool if we got more than that, but I don't think "teaser trailer" and think of a mini trailer. I think of Mario in a white void saying hello or something

[urban root]

i think of hte one for the grinch where he was in a supermarket

[peak pulsar]

https://youtu.be/2mNMvz85NG8

looks like he just got a TV spot or two initially

[urban root]

oh boy

[peak pulsar]

I'm not sure if the Illumination channel has everything though

[urban root]

i hope the mario teaser isnt like this

getting a refresher on illumination humor was like

Wow

[frigid ingot]

so there's gonna be pop music already?

[peak pulsar]

I mean it depends

[urban root]

i was leaning more on the low brow juxtaposition humor

hard to call it even low brow its juts like

Yup

The joke is that the Grinch is ice skating. Which you would not expect the Grinch to do.

[peak pulsar]

~~we could get 2:41 💀 ~~

https://youtu.be/6qsH_LFRr6k

I'd expect something more like this

[urban root]

The iconic teaser

i honestly thought this was for the first one jesus christ

[peak pulsar]

Looking at it, Despicable me had a lot of teasers, but the first was just the first minute or 2 of the film?

[urban root]

oh yea i remember that one

thats what im expecting for mario personally

[peak pulsar]

there's also stuff like this
https://youtu.be/_HylrvcGp_0

[urban root]

that sort of compact mini-story to show you what the characters are like

[peak pulsar]

classic Minion behavior

[urban root]

wow the audio mixing on this one is weird

these dudes used to look so fucked up

[peak pulsar]

oh gosh this is where this came from

[frigid ingot]

it's definitely from 2010

[urban root]

[frigid ingot]

this is like seeing the old Rabbid designs compared to what we have now

[urban root]

true

[peak pulsar]

oof the old rabbid designs

not Illumination, but this is a film I think of when I think teasers. Because I remembered seeing it and hating it
https://youtu.be/-ygqipfwIv0

oh wow that's weird seeing the king's voice come out of a regular troll

crazy how different it feels once you know the actual context from the film

[frigid ingot]

I thought this movie was older than it is

[peak pulsar]

2016 feels like a lifetime ago, but then you remember how the Switch was announced then

[urban root]

it definitely feels like a relic of a bygone era

somehow

actually maybe not somehow, wasnt this around the time when a lot of classic toys were getting films like this

[peak pulsar]

I think so yeah

okay so I was gonna share this as a joke and say "Guys look, the Mario movie teaser!"
But then I heard Mario's laugh at the end and it sounds so wrong.

Almost feel like that's just a stock sound effect they used
https://youtu.be/Dip4QoaSw6o

oh wait

I got their laughs mixed up

idek

[urban root]

i thiiink that's a new laugh clip?

i feel like i remember something about these

and how they got a soundalike??? i GUESS??

like theres a few of these with seemingly new mario voice clips

[wanton kite]

mario fucking pale

[peak pulsar]

I was looking for the Bowser stealing the delicious melon one

Mario next to furby is so cursed

what the frick? Happy's brother

[urban root]

green happy

[peak pulsar]

I can't find the "Bowser has stolen the delicious melon" one, dang

that was my favorite

https://youtu.be/lhsHBjFcc-Q

[urban root]

2013: The Year of Green Happy

[peak pulsar]

Happy convinced Mario & Peach that Bowser stole the melon, but Bowser actually did nothing wrong. He bought the delicious melon for himself, and Happy got him murdered over it so he could have it instead

bruh imagine if Ronald McDonald was still around. We could see Mario interacting with him

Mario ground pounds and kills Grimace

[foggy kestrel]

idk about you but i don't think Pratt is hyping up a 30 second character animation

Like if it was the case imagine if Ben Schwartz was hyping up the logo reveal of sonic 2 before it came out lol

[urban root]

hes in the trailer

what is he hyping up

hes literally in it

shit hes the star of the film

it is very frustrating seeing such a brazen disregard for What A Teaser Is because hwen it inevitably is like a minute and a half i dont want to deal with all the superficial and unnecessary frustration of an unchecked expectation

if its longer: Awesome! Cool!

but theyre not "hyping it up" because its a big long trailer with a ton of shit! theyre sharing it because theyre in it and its The Mario Movie

nintendo is ALWAYS one to just spill how its going for whatever it is theyre doing BECAUSE theyre such magnets for unchecked expectations

if it was, A Trailer, it would say its a trailer

but it is a teaser

[foggy kestrel]

what? All i’m saying is that it’s gonna be about 1 Minute, maybe a bit longer due to the fact that Universal need new films to advertise for other films, even then a Teaser Trailer and Trailer are interchangeable

[urban root]

you didnt say its about One Minute you said it could be 2

if not longer

[foggy kestrel]

maybe 2

[urban root]

i am the one trying to say it will be one minute Maximum

[foggy kestrel]

not exactly 2

[urban root]

because its a teaser

its not going to be anywhere near 2

otherwise it would be described as a trailer

it being short does not mean it is exempt from filling time before new films

and the short teaser will eventually be replaced by a Long trailer anyways

[foggy kestrel]

but like secret life of pets was also marketed as a teaser trailer at that was well over 2 Minutes

[urban root]

because the teaser is showing every single pet character in hte movie

which the movie revolves around. all of htem

its also extremely slow and mundane because its a ridiculously high concept pitch

(high concept because its such a mundane Nothing thing that you need to demonstrate Why it's worth making in the animation, characters, etc)

mario doesnt need this

it's mario

[foggy kestrel]

i’m not saying it’s gonna be all end all 2 Minutes, but the length of a teaser length depnds on both film and the amount of advertising it has

[pliant crane]

How much y’all wanna bet the SMB1 theme is gonna be in the teaser lmao

[vagrant sapphire]

It's gonna be that kesha song

Wake up in the morning feeling like P. Diddy (Kong)

[pliant crane]

Playing as bowser twerks and Luigi says “awkwaaaaard”

“Super Mario Bros”

“This Spring is gonna be Super”

[stuck ridge]

Mario movie teaser countdown era

Will be watching

[plain apex]

I have a funny trailer meme idea

It’s actually well-edited and fun to watch

[foggy kestrel]

Good idea!

Another meme idea is that Pratt and the rest of the cast are well casted for their roles since it's made clear this a new interpret

[dreamy tartan]

I think we should delete this channel now

We don’t need it anymore

[foggy kestrel]

Why?

[sturdy dirge]

the blood moon rises once again #mario-miscellaneous

[dreamy tartan]

illumination mario movie thread will self destruct in 48 hours. good luck

[foggy kestrel]

But how will we talk about Pratts amazing performance?

[wanton kite]

whens the teaser coming actually

i didnt pay attention to that part

[frigid ingot]

oct 6th at 4pm eastern time

[wanton kite]

wowza

ty

[bitter acorn]

mines at 1 and i’m getting on the bus at the time 😭

[foggy kestrel]

Watch the film have an the immediate turnaround to the film like with the sonic movies

[fossil bison]

it will have good reception because it will be a mediocre film that does nothing too bad

[stuck ridge]

Can't you be a little bit optimistic?

[sturdy dirge]

Nah

[fossil bison]

there's no better end result for the movie

this is how illumination makes movies

[foggy kestrel]

Or it could maybe, just maybe be actually good

[vital viper]

Yeah there's not much in its favor

[foggy kestrel]

Since there's other people aside the regular crew working on it

[fossil bison]

illumination doesn't really care for making good movies so that's very unlikely

[vital viper]

All the evidence points to this movie being ultra mid

[fossil bison]

and the crew… well

[vital viper]

You can be hopeful but atm it doesnt look great

[foggy kestrel]

Expect they sorta changed and kinda do now?

[fossil bison]

that would be news to me

[foggy kestrel]

Like they said they wanted to make better films just a while ago

[vital viper]

Companies say a lot of things

[foggy kestrel]

Look at Migration

[wanton kite]

i think. it will simply be a fun movie and not much more

[foggy kestrel]

That's your evidence

There's also a steven speilberg film they're making as well

[sturdy dirge]

what is migration

[vital viper]

Yeah

I just googled it and it isn't even out

So what, our evidence is that they said this movie that isn't out yet is gonna be good?

[foggy kestrel]

Mostly directors and writers along with the animation

[foggy kestrel]

I mean dick figures is actually good lol

TTG Directors might also seem like a bad thing but they've done some good stuff

Brave and Bold, TTG Movie and Ben 10 stuff

[placid bramble]

Except TTG Ruined CN

[urban root]

i dont think i like constantly poking back and forth on whether its going to be good or not

this has basically become a Fandom War where one side Must be correct. the movie Must be good. or it Must suck

this is the true endgame of this conversation and it is exhausting

i think everyone should respect eachothers expectations for this stupid movie for children

i dont care if its good or if its bad

i think everyone should simply be quiet maybe

[sturdy dirge]

well thats not as fun.

[urban root]

nice level up

[sturdy dirge]

Thx kind stranger

wait but server retention

[urban root]

WAIT though

[foggy kestrel]

This is the same exact song dance with Mario & Rabbids for Sonic Movie 1 to lesser extent where a dumb idea with so much going back for it such as the company or cast and yet they were good for most or at the very least decent with follow ups that improve on them tenfold leading to everyone on board, everyone is gonna have different opinions but like this movie whether the cast is good, bad whatever etc but one isn't just another "stupid kids movie" this is a Mario Movie, it's impact whether good or not will be understood since this is not only the first time Nintendo is stepping into the foray to cinema but will set a precident for video game movies either way and i don't think everyone is that hostile over the film, just expressing differing thoughts and ideas

[urban root]

its a film for stupid kids

i think when there is constant back and forth snark about people being excited or not about this Film written For Children that there is thus a problem with the conversation being had

just because people arent sticking knives in eachother doesnt mean the conversation isnt obnoxious and horrible

and its only like this because htere is literally talking about. we've effectively been battling speculation about how it'll be based on the two nuggets of information we know

like the fact that offense is being taken to me being slightly smug about the statement that it is a movie for kids speaks volumes

me saying its a kids movie is literally a statement of fact. illumination makes kids films

its not going to Not be a kids film

splitting hairs to say "its a film for everyone!" doesnt change the fact that its a kids film

[placid bramble]

There’s some films that isn’t for everyone that looks like a kids movie
Example Like Sausage Party

[urban root]

Mario will be like that imo

[pseudo blaze]

mario is gonna be exactly like sausage party and i am just so excited .

[plain apex]

You say that right as they announce this

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/illumination-netflix-adult-animation-mike-moon-hired-despicable-me-1235381704/

[placid bramble]

Funny enough Seth rogen will be in it
Sausage Party - Seth Rogen
Mario Movie - Seth Rogen

[foggy kestrel]

The thing is though, every single thing that had been annouced in the history of ever has been disputed, The Mario Movie is not a special case, you can boil down everything I've said in the previous message to "dumb kids media" which like I'm not denying but it's downplaying it is a bit weird imo

[plain apex]

I really can’t see how this movie wouldn’t have any kind of impact on the franchise

[foggy kestrel]

Not just the franchise but video game movies and illumination as a company

[plain apex]

Yeah

[sturdy dirge]

honestly im still waiting for the smw cartoon movie adaptation

[placid bramble]

I mean some of us are worried about the design of the movie
like sonic had a problem like back in 2019

[urban root]

who is trying to say it will not have any impact

im saying it is regardless a kids film and people seem to really be investing a lot of their life to this film

it being A big turning point for nintendo. does not change anything

[plain apex]

Why does being a kids film mean it’s impossible to be invested a lot

[urban root]

that isnt what i said

[foggy kestrel]

Why wouldn't they, Mario has impacted a lot of people

[urban root]

because i would be a little concerned for anyone who even implied htat mario was such a tentpole of their personality that they have dedicated most of their life and thought processes to speculating on this film and getting into fights about it being good

[foggy kestrel]

But people aren't doing that?

That seems pretty exaggerated imo

[urban root]

again i dont know why this is even becoming an arugment there is clearly a degree of constant Garbage that goes on in every single one of these conversations because it is seemingly impossible to be respectful of eachothers expectations because it Has to be good or it Has to be bad

im practically just moderating at this point

[plain apex]

Do you not think Mario is a giant part of millions of peoples lives

[urban root]

i Truly dont care how good of a film this is

i am saying that it is exhausting having this exact kind of back and forth every day and it has gotten to the point where it is so bad to sit and even attempt to read that there is a problem

[sturdy dirge]

Yo if im keeping it a stack 50 marios a big part of my brain but theres literally not any reason to pop in the mario movie chat every day to defend or offend a movie we’ve seen a poster for

the impact mario has onpeople has nothing to do with how dedicated u are to nothing

[urban root]

True

there is a disproportionate amount of Content to obsess over right now

which is why the discussion has gotten to be so miserable

like, this will change in literally two weeks, but this whole time it has been the exact same talking points being raised at eachother louder and louder over and over as both sides get equally exhausted of hte other

when it doesnt matter. why does anyone care about anyone elses investment in something this trivial

[plain apex]

I don’t understand why a new movie in a franchise that has been almost completely averse to adaptions in general for decades is “trivial”
But I guess that’s just me

[urban root]

because life is more than Super Mario Bros

it is more than sitting in a room and watching a film and talking about it online

life is more than fictional media

[foggy kestrel]

But again no one is deneying that

[urban root]

me saying its trivial doesnt mean This film is nothing. it means NOthing. It makes no difference to Nintendo

xclearly someone is denying it

[plain apex]

Then why even talk about fictional media at all

[urban root]

it means that you are not nintendo. you do not work at nintendo. you do not work at illumination. you aren't working on tihs movie

it is unhealthy to be invested this much in something we know nothing about

hence why the conversation is Bad

[foggy kestrel]

It's just weird to make this movie the exception since so many other stuff has this back and forward attuide even to a worse degree

[urban root]

the fact that this is a debate

Right Now

as though i could be Wrong and that there is Another Way

like just THIS MUCH resistance to saying "you guys could probably calm down"

is ridiculous

[urban root]

i dont care about whatever other shit you can think up

because its happening right now here

[plain apex]

You could apply this to literally any film

[urban root]

the other stuff isnt relevant

swaaz i need you to like look inwards a little bit here

stop

you are being so defensive about this

im like Practically in moderation mode

the conversation is not good. nobody enjoys being in it

nobody enjoys talking about and arguing about the same thing on a bi-daily basis for months on end

[plain apex]

You could always just not have this misc channel open

[urban root]

it is my job to make sure channels do not go to shit