ventral deck gun

[uneven nebula]

[zinc yew]

Walks onto deck gun falls off

[cyan steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[uneven nebula]

deck under the bottom

[cyan steeple]

NO WAY SHERLOCK

[zinc yew]

It's just flipped 180 degrees I see no issue XD

Would require a pretty radical redesign

[torn zealot]

yes way

[cyan steeple]

its doable BUT

[uneven nebula]

but what

[cyan steeple]

it requires 2x2 to be not goofy

[torn zealot]

no?

[uneven nebula]

???

why??

[cyan steeple]

yes

[uneven nebula]

dawg its already a shit gun you make it 2x2 and its worse

[torn zealot]

just put a deck and ladder on one tile and make the other not accessible

like it already is

[cyan steeple]

maybe

[uneven nebula]

lets not even mention the fact that itll probably be slightly more expensive and weigh a little more
due to the fact that its upside down
and needs a ladder

[zinc yew]

You'd get more free steel wall if it was larger

[torn zealot]

it's fine, balancing might cut the cost of regular deck guns off already because it's not worth it right now

[uneven nebula]

would also get rammed off easier

there is no reason to make it 2x2

[zinc yew]

I mean if it has downwards restriction it wouldn't even really matter if it was taller other then for ramming

Could also just do the thing with the deck bombard where the gun is outside the part

[cyan steeple]

lets make it 1x3 then

[uneven nebula]

[zinc yew]

The deck bombard is only 1 tall despite being based on a 2 tall part

[uneven nebula]

already a bad gun so meh

[cyan steeple]

how the fuck can you aim downwards if it is 2 block wide and one is specifically for the floor

[sacred lichen]

Turret without armour

[uneven nebula]

??

flew straight over my head sorry

[torn zealot]

by pointing the gun down

[uneven nebula]

gotta put it in stupid terms for me

[torn zealot]

how do you aim up if it's two blocks wide and one is specifically for the floor

[uneven nebula]

you
point the gun

[cyan steeple]

either you make 2 people have sexual congress with the ladder or make 1 block wider

[uneven nebula]

towards the ground

?

[zinc yew]

Just have the deck gun visually outside of the block of the part

Like the deck bombard

[uneven nebula]

mate

look at this

[sacred lichen]

Add deck with ladder make price +5

[uneven nebula]

you see that line at the bottom?

[sacred lichen]

Done

[uneven nebula]

thats a deck

[zinc yew]

Or I guess just the regular deck gun go an extent

[uneven nebula]

they stand there
they shoot

the ladder is just to climb donw

[zinc yew]

Place a deck bombard?

[uneven nebula]

its still 2x1
ther is no need to make it 2x2
or 3x2
or 5x3
or 3x1
or 1x3
or 8x8 (dhow sail size)

[zinc yew]

You could also just have the gun in the floor

[sacred lichen]

Deckgun is on deck 0_0

[torn zealot]

just aim down, clearly

[uneven nebula]

and that would still be 2x1, no?

[cyan steeple]

where in 2 dimensions 2 people stay in the same tile with a ladder and a cannon the mid

[uneven nebula]

either way its 2x1

[zinc yew]

Yeah

[sacred lichen]

👏

[uneven nebula]

speak english

[sacred lichen]

Theres 1 operator

For deckgun...

[zinc yew]

Make a paint design clearly

[cyan steeple]

the person reloading

[torn zealot]

there's more than one modules that can end up having multiple people on a single tile

[sacred lichen]

Person reloading dumps off ammo and goes away

[cyan steeple]

with a cannon in mid

[sacred lichen]

:3

[cyan steeple]

and a ladder?

[uneven nebula]

what are you even talking about at this point

can you like
draw it out so it makes more sense

[torn zealot]

literally including regular deck guns (there are two people on that one tile)

[sacred lichen]

Indeed

They always stack

:}

Ammo delivery!

[torn zealot]

same with mortar, cannon, grenade, ballista, bombard, etc

basically every gun

there's only ever whichever amount required to operate showing up

and then the extra loaders are just stacked

[cyan steeple]

alr alr you got me

make it 1 op max

[sacred lichen]

Deckgun woudnt be so landship supporting weapon!

[torn zealot]

with the exception of guided missiles (and possibly some others), that require a minimum of 4 but can't have more than 3 on separate tiles because of the module's shape

[uneven nebula]

its already like that
it uses 1 crewmember (recommended 2 but miniumum 1)

and like
an ammo runner

to load ammo

[cyan steeple]

[sacred lichen]

If theres no ammo runner

Gunner goes grab amunition

[uneven nebula]

also correct

there is only an ammo runner if there is enough crew for it

[sacred lichen]

Unless machinist from tracks decides to take a break and they all start changing position during combat 💀

[zinc yew]

What if we gave the deck gun 2 barrels?

[torn zealot]

boarding attacks also can result in like 20 idiots stacked on top of one another during a shootout in some dumb module on the way to one of the bridges

[sacred lichen]

It got 2 ammo mag already

[cyan steeple]

ok ok i got it

[torn zealot]

[cyan steeple]

it is possible

[sacred lichen]

Troops stacking inside bridge

Crewmans vs canon fodder

[low maple]

HOW

[sudden turtle]

enters the deck gun balance discussion, currently one of the worst guns
"make a ventral version"
leaves
never seen again

[torn zealot]

[strange heart]

[uneven nebula]

shouldve made an alt account just to do so

[sudden turtle]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA BADED

BASED