#Fallout

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rose gorge
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YESSSS

strange jackal
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i hope it's good

vast stirrup
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I have mid expectations

rose gorge
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I have decent hopes honestly. From what I can tell they've at least nailed the tone and sets

vast stirrup
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But the trailers seemed to nail the vibe

rose gorge
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Which is all I honestly care about

upper pewter
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Already planning on a Season 2 is a decent sign that Amazon has some faith in it. No reviews yet and then suddenly shifting the release gives me pause though.

vast stirrup
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Feels a bit better with all these pretty decent shows being canceled after 1 season

woeful rivet
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A person I know who had seen the first 6 episodes as of the beginning of the year said it good and was true to the material

rose gorge
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I'm pretty excited

vast stirrup
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Fallout spoiler: || You've been Nick Valentine'd ||

rose gorge
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You're going to end up the boy who cried wolf

vast stirrup
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Worth it for short term gain

rose gorge
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Imma block you

vast stirrup
rose gorge
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(affectionate)

vast stirrup
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Is it confirmed if Season 2 is a continuation of Season 1 or a new story? Or do we not know

magic gyro
strange jackal
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now releases all 8 eps on wednesday at 6PM instead of thurs

vast stirrup
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Right before I start my new job. No time to binge KEKW

strange jackal
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it's up already?

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ah

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does it feel more fallout 4-y than older games

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nah it's just the overall vibe of it

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like fallout 3 and 4 have different vibes

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but if you haven't played them its hard to explain

vast stirrup
dire sentinel
strange jackal
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Halfway through episode 1 and the answer is that it’s very Fallout 4-vibes

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Which I kind of expected, that’s just what Bethesda decided fallout is now

strange jackal
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first ep was good. I'm not too excited about this seemingly being a wholly East Coast Brotherhood unit operating in LA but bethesda gonna bethesda

magic gyro
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Finished the first episode, it was really good, definitely has a lot of the spirit of the game especially in the Vault sections, now I want to do a New Vegas or FO4 run.

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I did not.

strange jackal
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i paid for ad-free for a month since it all dropped at once

magic gyro
strange jackal
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I'm guessing the vault experiment here is having 31, 32, and 33 all interconnected and giving them each a third of what a normal vault would get

strange jackal
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Lyon's Brotherhood even less so

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oh i did math wrong, this is set almost 10 years after Fallout 4

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I suppose it's feasible that Maxson expanded west by now

upper pewter
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Michael Emerson is such a good character actor. Brotherhood is definitely the least interesting but I found it the least interesting in the games too. I think Ella Purnell and Walton Goggins are such better actors and that doesn’t help.

magic gyro
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I definitely relished destroying their big balloon in FO4.

rose gorge
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I have hated all iterations of the brotherhood but I hate this one the most

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And the power armor looks like eva foam

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Also I love basically all the visuals but hate the writing lol

mossy orbit
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It’s uncle baby Bobby Billy

rose gorge
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I'm annoyed but I'm pretty sure explaining why will make me look like an enormous nerd

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I'm getting a similar feeling as when I watched Netflix Castlevania

crystal lagoon
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I'm here. And I'm happy. One episode down.

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Cute+Devastation=my kinda thing

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I thought it was cute that Titus chose Maximus. I love the inclusion of Dane. Vault 33 was gorgeous. Kinda mad at the raiders wastefulness. But I get their rage.

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I like the nuanced setup of the Brotherhood in this. We open with them allowing a bunch of jerks beating the snot out of one them and noone stops it. (Absolutely noted race throughout the show too) It allowed new audiences to understand that, while they are shiny fighters thinking they are fighting the good fight, they are not the good guys.

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And there was a lot of that. A lot of small purposeful choices.

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Even down to the curtain wipe of 2024.

rose gorge
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There are many different branches and generations of BoS

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Many suck but some are okay

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FO3 brotherhood is fine imo

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I think the main reason they are hated is cause they think they are better than everyone and like to hoard technology

magic gyro
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FO3 was also an outlier where they were more focused on defending the Capitol than finding and preserving tech.

rose gorge
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Yeah exactly

crystal lagoon
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I want to yell more about this show but my brain is goop at the moment. But I am really pleased. Starting episode 2 tonight.

rose gorge
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I was happy with ep 1 and started getting annoyed a bit at ep 2, but I realize I am ultra picky and hard to please

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I am also bad at explaining myself but I think my main complaint is that I feel like they forced extra edginess in for the sake of being popular with non-game fans, similar to what Netflix Castlevania did? I know the games are dark/funny at the same time but the cheeky haha edgy shit was starting to border on too much for me

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But I still need to watch more

magic gyro
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I definitely got the feeling that Amazon mandated The Boys-style hyperviolence at points.

rose gorge
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And extra sex

magic gyro
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To me a lot of the starting vault stuff was an homage to the movie “A Boy and his Dog” which had a plot very similar concerning procreation and genetics.

rose gorge
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That's cool to read about since I didn't know the reference, and it's clearly an inspiration for a lot of fallout content. But do we really need direct references to another media when the current fallout lore is already so rich?

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Still just two episodes ppRapLaugh KEKW

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My wife hated it so i need alone time to watch the rest Jessie

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She was like wtf we only watched two episodes and it took two hours? That's like a whole movie

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We are bad at things

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(Like sitting still)

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Also most tv was 22 minutes without commercials, and we have always been Pirates

cinder frost
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i have just been informed matt berry is mr handy and now i am so so so so pissed i dont have time to watch this show rn

rose gorge
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Luckily that's just a silly little robot

cinder frost
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yeah but its an incredible casting choice

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and he's credited for multiple episodes

rose gorge
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I know. I am the biggest fan in the world of IT crowd

cinder frost
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yeah i only have uhhhh six more episodes of invincible to go ppRapLaugh

rose gorge
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So Matt berry is big for me

cinder frost
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and also several bad batch episodes

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im trapped binging anime for club every week

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but soon i graduate it will be over

rose gorge
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Oh no anime club, they are going to punish you

rose gorge
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Probably with Yaoi paddles

crystal lagoon
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Mr Handy is a treasure!

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Anyway I came in to say my Fallout allegiance is to Mr Snip Snips. He is the most beautiful boy. I will also need a vault dweller suit and pouches to contain Mr Handy repair parts.

mossy orbit
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I loved it

magic gyro
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Ghouls don't seem to die of old age, but they do turn feral, presumably the (Rad-Away?) IV is to keep him sane.

rose gorge
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In the games, they could conceivably live forever if they don't get killed. Like vampires

crystal lagoon
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We stopped after episode 4 too.

dry sun
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i have just finished episode 1

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all i know about fallout is the cockroach family

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and for some reason everyone likes nukacola

dry sun
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I had to stop at the start of episode 2

rose gorge
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I fell asleep watching ep 3 last night Jessie

vast stirrup
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I've just started episode 1

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What's with all this ||cousin fucking||

strange jackal
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I’m almost done with ep 2

rose gorge
strange jackal
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Spotted Moira’s Wasteland Survival Guide

rose gorge
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I think it makes a decent amount of sense culturally in that scenario as long as the limits are discussed healthily, which it seems like they are!

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So I thought it was funny and interesting

vast stirrup
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I hope slo-mo isn't extremely prevalent

rose gorge
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....I like the way they have been doing it. To evoke VATS

vast stirrup
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I'll have to see how they do it later

rose gorge
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The huge nerd in me was a little annoyed that they used it for people who don't have a pipboy but mostly I like it for the vibes so far

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Ooooh I didn't even think about that haha

vast stirrup
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Well she failed her first speech check ppRapLaugh

strange jackal
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finished ep 2

crystal lagoon
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I'll be starting 5 tonight!

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I hope I get to see more of my favorite metal round boy!

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I was told synths aren't in this. Makes me just a tiny bit sad because I have a totally healthy not obsessive attraction to robot men, AI, cyborgs, etc.

vast stirrup
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Hmm. If they aren't, Season 2 is already confirmed, so... maybe?

crystal lagoon
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I can dream. Hah. For now ep4 ||Mr Handys do just fine.||

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I love them and also kind of want to punt one.

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Chet is effin adorable btw. Cousin be damned.

rose gorge
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I wonder if it's cause ||it's after the Institute's (I think canonical) defeat in FO4 and on the other side of the country in an area with heavy BoS presence?||

crystal lagoon
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And I really like that the brother isn't a throw away character.

rose gorge
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Pure speculation

crystal lagoon
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Also saves production money.

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Heh.

rose gorge
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I missed this before but yes ppMulanHands

vast stirrup
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Just finished ep2

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I was waiting for || that song|| !

crystal lagoon
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Those jerks!

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Rip ep5 ||Mr Snip snips. ||

vast stirrup
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Someone remade Lucy in Fallout 4

fringe pike
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The games were never quite this violent, right?

strange jackal
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Not particularly

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Bloody mess is a thing in the games but even then it just makes kills like, explode

strange jackal
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i'd wait like 2 weeks at this point if you're going to

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they're pushing out the "next-gen" update on the 25th which isn't really gonna do anything for PC except break mods

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so either play vanilla (which is fine), or wait till the QOL mods are fixed lol

fringe pike
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Yeah. There's a lot more cgi blood than I was expecting

rose gorge
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The game are only not super gory cause of graphics decisions imo. There is lots of violence and body parts and gore it's just more "video gamey" if that makes sense.

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Some of the corpses in 76 make me a little queasy honestly. They stepped it up a little in that game

rose gorge
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Yeah that's mainly what I'm saying haha

strange jackal
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Starting ep 3 now

strange jackal
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Sunset sarsaparilla truck, new Vegas keeps winning

strange jackal
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I’m tempted to give FO76 another shot after the show

rose gorge
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I play it on and off. It's pretty fun

dry sun
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i'm still in shock over the ||puppy going into the furnace|| in ep 2

vast stirrup
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Yup

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I still remember the canvas bag controversy like it was only a few months ago ppMulanHands

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This is interesting

strange jackal
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TTW is the best way to play FO3 now

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If only for the fact that you get the engine improvements from NV

rose gorge
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It's an ancient fridge joke that fallout has been stealing from indy for ages

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I need to catch up to y'all though

strange jackal
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Literally me just now

rose gorge
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Having a normal butt is apparently a crime now sadCat

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you try being that thin and also having a nice rear end!

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True lol

strange jackal
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Finished ep 6

strange jackal
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You knew it was coming though

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||vaults can’t be normal, that’s the whole shtick||

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||there were a few control vaults and the secret vault, but those are definitely exceptions, not the rule||

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||she was likely talking about the secret vault though, that one was under LA and designed for Vault-Tec employees||

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Oh you should def go rewatch that scene when you’re not half asleep lmao

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Ep 7: ||Fred Armisen?!? Being a nerd about vinyl quality?!?||

crystal lagoon
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Tbf I was a stick with a butt pre-having a kid. It is possible.

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But completely unnecessary edit!

strange jackal
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Do TTW or Viva New Vegas

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Don’t try to play straight vanilla NV lol

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Both of those are mod packs

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I assume the prime one is GOTY

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So you can do either

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It’s some of the paid mods they had in the store

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That’s all

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Oh that might be new idk

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Yes

strange jackal
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Starting ep 8

vast stirrup
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This is all just part of the fallout Bethesda experience with mods ppRapLaugh

strange jackal
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Ep 8: ||actual new Vegas references holy shit||

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Huh, okay

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This is an interesting way of doing this

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Bethesda really likes their own stories

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||this suddenly became Fallout 3 and 4’s plots mixed together||

strange jackal
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Finished it. I want season 2 immediately please

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If only to see ||what they picked as a canon ending for New Vegas||

strange jackal
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mildly surprised that there were no ||deathclaws or super mutants in the whole season||

crystal lagoon
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Finished.

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A
Maz
Ing

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I cried for no other reason except joy at how well they did.

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Me on the couch to hubs: I don't even know why I'm crying! It was just so beautiful!

rose gorge
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I just finished episode 4

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I like it a little more now. Still unhappy about ghoul treatment retcon from games but I'll live

strange jackal
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||It's heavily implied in FO4 that Vault-Tec started the war, but this is the first time it's explicitly said. Moldaver doesn't really hand it over to the brotherhood so much as she just wanted to see it work before the brotherhood took over the observatory||

obsidian niche
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We binge watched this over the weekend, it was a lot better than I expected pacha I’ve only played Fallout 4

crystal lagoon
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I'm interested to see what gail thinks the further along they get.

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I am invested.

rose gorge
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I watched through 6 last night, need a break haha

crystal lagoon
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I kicked my feet.

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||"she's gonna say it, say it!"||

crystal lagoon
dense valley
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I finished ep 1 earlier today. A good fucken start. I love it already

vast stirrup
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Just started ep 3. But thinking back to 2 ||were ghouls ever invulnerable ||?

dense valley
vast stirrup
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I dont want to spoil anything, but you'll understand why I ask when you watch ep 2

rose gorge
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They changed a decent bit about how ghouls work as far as I can tell

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In the games, ||it's pretty rare for a non-feral ghoul to go feral. It seems like something that is determined by genetics or something at the initial exposure to radiation, but it's never fully explained or fleshed out in detail||

strange jackal
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There’s also the thing in ep 8 with ||Thaddeus turning into a ghoul but that’s not entirely unprecedented, Hancock in FO4 also claims to have been ghoulified by a drug||

rose gorge
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I am looking forward to catching up on all these spoiler tags later ppRapLaugh

vast stirrup
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Same KEKW

strange jackal
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||they heal in radiation||

strange jackal
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I saw some comments theorizing that (ep 8): ||Thaddeus isn’t turned into a ghoul, but that the snake oil salesman may have somehow had a bit of FEV and he’s gonna turn into a super mutant||

strange jackal
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Yeah it’s just ||the shit that makes super mutants in general||

rose gorge
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It can do a lot of crazy things to organisms (but usually just turns to SM). Harold called himself a ghoul before he turned into a tree but I think it turned out to be FEV

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Not spoilering that cause it's fallout 3 and earlier shit

rose gorge
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Episode 7 ||the fiddle station 🎻 ||

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I love it

crystal lagoon
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Music and homemade traps.

rough robin
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Finished. This thread is now safe.

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Man, they nailed the tone.

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They made little nods to the games, but didn't wink-and-nod too much. They even made small digs at things about the games that folks often find frustrating. That sold me on their... I don't know, "sincerity?"

crystal lagoon
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Oh that reminds me! I loved it when the hacking made it on screen.

rough robin
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RIGHT?

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First try, too.

crystal lagoon
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It's nice that they set that up. I believed it because he was on his pip all day in the beginning.

strange jackal
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same idea with the writers room on the Acolyte

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it's a valid point to make too

rough robin
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DANG, I was just typing about that.

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I really like it. For all dissertation committees for students in my department, you have to have one member that isn't in the department. You want to have someone that doesn't know very much about the topic specifically, so they're less likely to get lost in the weeds while other stuff may be glaring.

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I dig it.

rose gorge
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She does to me! She should have been dead very many times over

crystal lagoon
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Very trur

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True

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I give up

dire sentinel
rough robin
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Part of me wonders if the dates are just a little off. Like New Vegas and the NCR use different years, because Wasteland.

strange jackal
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I just want to know which New Vegas ending they chose as canon

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Ep 8: ||the credits sequence flyover shows what looks like a destroyed Strip, so it’s likely not the House ending. NCR is gone as far as the show seems to tell us. Legion ending is so half baked in the game I can’t imagine they’d use that ever again. So it’s likely Yes Man with House dead I guess?||

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It’s wild that the most they got for this is the FO4 update 3 weeks after the show release

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There was rumors of a Fallout 3 remaster last year, that would have sold like crazy right now

rough robin
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That's what I'm thinking. ||The downfall didn't happen all at once, and the bombing doesn't have to be at the same time as the "downfall." I still think there's bits of the NCR out there, but Shady Sands... RIP.||

strange jackal
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||Shady Sands is only mentioned in a single line from a non-named NPC in New Vegas anyway||

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New Vegas mega fans are the worst

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The minute Bethesda said anything about the west coast those kind of fans wrote it off

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Considering that scene was the FO4 version of the main theme, a sane one

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That scene was great

vast stirrup
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Just started Episode 4 ||I'm very glad they didn't just move from the vault and kept a storyline there||

vast stirrup
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Amazing timing on ||Fallout 4 title music||

dense valley
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uhhh the dialogue is pretty close to the games ppRapLaugh except lucy

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shes the outlier for comic relief

crystal lagoon
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We exist!

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Us Lucies would absolutely exist in a Fallout world. Just maybe not for long.

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Bahaha

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I am laughing entirely too hard for the amount of energy I currently possess. This show has so much in it you could make a whole college class on it.

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Thesis papers galore.

dense valley
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story is weak around the 3 vaults at this point but I’m only on ep 5

crystal lagoon
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I'm such a jerk for forgetting brother's name.

vast stirrup
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Me too ppRapLaugh

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I'm just like "it's enders game guy!"

crystal lagoon
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Norm!

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I almost wanted to call him Norman like Bates.

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Maybe they just don't mention his name much. Norm is great though. I really loved everything they did with him.

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In so many series he'd be a throw away character.

vast stirrup
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I'm on ep 7 and I think it's only mentioned like 3 times

crystal lagoon
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I wonder if they named him that to reflect that he's the normal character. Or is it a reference?

vast stirrup
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What they didn't reveal was that his middle name is Hull

noble zodiac
strange jackal
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Yes

crystal lagoon
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Sir. I was baby worm. So I apologize if that was or wasn't a joke.

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If it was, hahaha. If not, oh dang.

vast stirrup
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Oh my gosh they said Norman's name again

vast stirrup
rose gorge
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I COMPLETELY agree with this assessment

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I liked the show for the visuals but I didn't enjoy the writing or acting thaaat much. And I love the fallout games

young mothBOT
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rose gorge
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#1227105125940859002 message

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Ah yeah that makes sense I guess

strange jackal
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There are definitely points in the show that feel gratuitous for gratuity's sake

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like one of the studio notes was "The Boys is really popular, be more like The Boys"

vast stirrup
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Finally finished the show

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So damn excited for Season 2 now

crystal lagoon
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It's so good!

vast stirrup
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Also ||New Vegas mentioned|| pixelPepeDance

crystal lagoon
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The acting, the writing, visuals, music and sound A++.

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But I came in here to share that I asked Alexa to play music from Fallout and she just played me Fallout Boy.

vast stirrup
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My only big issue was ||How conveniently forgiving the Brotherhood was to Max||

crystal lagoon
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I was like noooope but ok we're here now.

crystal lagoon
vast stirrup
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I'd spoiler that just in case

crystal lagoon
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Him who? Which old man?

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Which btw it is so refreshing to have so many ages in this show.

vast stirrup
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From what I remember, ||the West Coast part of BoS is just a shit show||

crystal lagoon
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Sometimes I'll watch a show with only 20somethings in it and it gets old almost instantly.

crystal lagoon
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Hubs agrees with you. ||"They need every recruit they can get because they're kind of a mess."||

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||"And he knows where the head is. It's better than having to restart the search."||

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What I said and deleted is right but may be out of line.

vast stirrup
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I seent it ppRapLaugh

crystal lagoon
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What Would Lucy Do

vast stirrup
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Have sex, apparently

crystal lagoon
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Lmao

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I love her honesty and how she develops and navigates using it in this new harsh world.

vast stirrup
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It would have been very easy for Ella Purnell's character to be annoying.

crystal lagoon
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By the time she gets to the other || vault, she struggles but is able (until a point) not blurt out observations. Of course after the ashes she is thrown back to square one. Then learns.||

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Definitely but it seems to come from such a genuine place.

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Great acting.

vast stirrup
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Very little complaints about acting pacha

rough robin
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She's gettin' there.

dense valley
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Okay ||but I wasn’t expecting them getting nude in ep 6 ppRapLaugh ||

crystal lagoon
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My immediate response || to that scene was a certain o word that I asked out loud.||

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There are many kinds of vaults.

vast stirrup
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This is my vault. There are many like it, but this one is mine

crystal lagoon
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What kind of vault would you be in?
I asked myself then quickly realized nah I'd probably just die immediately.

vast stirrup
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Probably 106

strange jackal
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is 106 the drugs one or Gary

vast stirrup
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Whitehouse to drive you insane one

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Sorry, 92, not 106

crystal lagoon
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The show shows a vault in south NJ and I was wondering what it was but I can't find anything on it. Just real fallout shelters there. lol. My old grounds are ready.

dense valley
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the ghoul and actor being the same person didn’t surprise me. the hints were not subtle ppRapLaugh

rose gorge
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I didn't think they tried to hide that at all

dense valley
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oh I thought it was suppose to be the surprise aha moment why he hates vault tech so much

strange jackal
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yeah that was just the core conceit of the show lmao

rose gorge
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i need to watch the whole thing again less toasted I think ppRapLaugh

vast stirrup
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They probably saved this info to be explained in Season 2

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Whoops sorry for the ping

vast stirrup
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What annoys me is that could have taken the 5 minutes that Lucy was just staring at her father to do some more exposition on that

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And another thing. ||Betty seemed to be high up in Vault-Tec, and held some influence with Bud. Why would she ever let them approve of dropping the nuke without first making sure her kid was nearby?!||

strange jackal
vast stirrup
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Good points

dense valley
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finally finished the last episode. it got better as we got to the later episodes.

magic gyro
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I finished the series, I really like how well they were able to build the world of Fallout fairly naturally throughout the series without it being too explainy. That being said, they definitely knew they were getting a second season while writing it.

woeful rivet
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Also finished it. It felt very Fallout and made me want to dive back into the games. I might have some stuff still to do in FO4 once they update that and I still have NV to play so now I have to figure out which mods to install so I can lose my life to that.

strange jackal
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strange jackal
long valve
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@haterbog
We still don’t know how she’s alive rn right

dense valley
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who? the NCR leader?

woeful rivet
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Yeah, we don’t know how she’s still alive. I would guess she found her way into cryo

strange jackal
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most likely is that she was also in vault 31 (or another in the area)

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neat answer would be synth but i really don't want synths on the west coast

woeful rivet
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I debated leaving that autocorrect typo

dense valley
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maybe shes a goul

long valve
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I don’t know any fallout lore

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Cryo is a good reason

strange jackal
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the only ways any pre-war people have been alive during the game timeline is cryo (in Vault 111 and now 31), and Mr. House with his not-quite-cryo box

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and ghouls

strange jackal
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lmao imagine they keep that

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they did try to pull an "actually aliens did it" in the games once

woeful rivet
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That I did not know though I know aliens are a thing and they’re obsessed with the tv shows or something like that.

rose gorge
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aliens are canon in fallout haha

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along with a lot of AU lovecraftian shit

strange jackal
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season 2 dunwich building episode

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let's do it

rose gorge
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that would be sweet

strange jackal
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I'm really interested to see how much (if any) of New Vegas they pull from for season 2

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idk how well you could pull off a real life Followers or Boomers

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"Yeah this faction is just a bunch of doctors who want to help people, the catch is they're Mormon"

rose gorge
keen basin
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Just give me Gary

lilac grove
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ok @rose gorge what did you think about Fallout?

rose gorge
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The tldr lol

dire sentinel
bitter edge
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So I enjoyed this show immensely, what’s our feelings

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My main beef is just that the whole “ghouls need drugs to notify go feral” is stupid.

dense valley
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oh ya that was dumb

rose gorge
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Yes same

bitter edge
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I liked how realistically evil Vault Tec was

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I’m excited to do a rewatch because there’s so much that means More in retrospect

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Like ohh, knowing he’s a veteran, this makes senseeee

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They threaded in his knowledge of power armor from the start

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It is such a rare delight to get a television show where my questions are actually answered and things are set up

woeful rivet
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He was such a good character.

bitter edge
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I was literally like “it fits the universe but why does the water creature have fingers in its mouth” and then they ANSWERED IT

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I would’ve just accepted that that thing existed in fallout!

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Gotta say my favorite minor character was the insane drug doctor guy

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The performance and styling and sheer insanity really heightened … everything

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I’m curious to see where Thaddeus’s story goes on that front because it could go a lot of ways, some vastly more stupid than others, but honestly the show didn’t let me down yet so I’m cautiously placing my trust in them to do something interesting there.

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I also need to know how Muldaver is still alive.

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That’s one of those things where I don’t mind having open threads at the end of the season but I’m very eager and excited to know more

woeful rivet
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My guess is she somehow got on the ins with the group that went into cryo and then escaped early on

bitter edge
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Maybeee

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It could be cryo, it could be smth else. “Smth else”, much like Thaddeus and the miracle drug, could be very stupid or very good

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But so far the twists have been good

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Bud Atkins being the big reveal twist there at the end was really good for me because I’d also written him off as a stupid middling manager in an evil corporation

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And then you realize that even just being that, he’s caused so much pain and evil for vaults 32 and 33

bitter edge
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It was kinda wacky but in a way that worked for me and makes you question your own biases, like sure the overseer is a mutant with some prejudices towards surface dwellers, but. Is he worse than many people alive today? Or do I just find him personally kinda unpleasant?

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Overall it’s giving me the emotion I felt about Westworld S1, where the pieces came together in a satisfying way and I was excited to watch it again, knowing where it was going, because the puzzle pieces would be more evident on a second watch

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My poor roommate having to hear me and my deep knowledge of Fallout lore either criticize things on a level she couldn’t care about OR get very excited about being pandered to

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I’ve never had a show pander to me before!

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Sorry for all the times I’ve made fun of Star Wars fans, I will do it again, but I see why something being made for you is one hell of a drug

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Oh, and the opening with the guys scavenging for caps incorporating the Fallout: New Vegas theme. Mixed feelings because fuck you Bethesda but it was a nice little nod, I think.

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The roommate and I trying to figure out if saying “I can see my house from here” is accurate

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Hunter helping

rose gorge
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So I still worry lol

bitter edge
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I never fully trust

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But by three episodes into Fallout I was like, okay. I think I trust this season is gonna be good.

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And now I trust enough that I’m excited to see Season 2 and will tune in

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Even if S2 is bad, though, S1 is really good

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And they can’t take that away

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I am a master in ignoring everything after Westworld season 1 so I’ve done it before and I’ll do it again

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It’s also been a while since I saw something with such strong characters and I’m delighted by that

rose gorge
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The characters are great

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My favorite thing is just how pretty it was

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Like in a game-accurate way.... pretty can mean ugly or otherwise here the way I'm using it

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I just loved everything about the costume and set design

bitter edge
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The design was INCREDIBLE

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the canon stuff fit in and wasn’t just being dangled to get you to go ooooo

rose gorge
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Mhm

bitter edge
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Which is nice

vast stirrup
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My main gripe is a common one I see in shows, which was Lucy at the end

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Stop standing there and doing nothing

bitter edge
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I shouldn’t have started this conversation when I have cleaning to do XD

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I liked Lucy’s ending because it was her having to decide which side to be on and who to believe

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It was very internal

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But I can see the criticism

vast stirrup
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That's fine, but this is after she decides that internally. She still just stands there and let's her dad get away. I didn't expect her to kill him, but do something, please KEKW

bitter edge
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lol fair

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He did have power armor tho so I get the idea of her going “how am I gonna stop him”

vast stirrup
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She let him get to it!

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Unless I'm misremembering

bitter edge
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I’ll have to rewatch but I feel like she was distracted at that point

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Something else was going on and I lost track of dad so I could see her not expecting that either

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But it did have the air of “we need him to get away so he can return next season”, for sure

vast stirrup
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Yeah, which is fine. I'd rather have it serve the story, but I'm still peeved lol

bitter edge
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I don’t ultra mind that because we do need some loose ends to carry through, but it was a little weird

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I’m cautiously trusting that he’ll server a purpose

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The reveal of him as Hank from the phone was SO much

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THAT was a well done reveal

vast stirrup
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To be honest, I liked the side story in the vault more than the main one

bitter edge
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The investigative boys?

vast stirrup
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Yea

bitter edge
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I likes all the plots running tbh, it was well done in making you care a lot about each one

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At least to me

vast stirrup
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I agree, but the vault story was just an edge above

bitter edge
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Lucy’s more of the Fallout Protagonist ™ who’s going on her personal journey, but splitting off what would normally be the protagonist finding out about the vault and giving it to her brother & cousin was a very good move

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She wasn’t going to go back to the vault obvs

bitter edge
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I’m interested in where the Lucy/ghoul partnership is gonna go, now that they’re on more equal footing

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He was like the shadow mentor who taught her how to be a wastelander and now they’re teaming up, which is interesting! Lots of character potential

lilac grove
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Just getting caught up on this chat.

lilac grove
lilac grove
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as a non-Fallout player, if there were any easter eggs or references to game things they were lost on me. Nothing seemed out of place so I'm guessing whatever references there were were not shoehorned in.

rose gorge
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It's a very well fleshed out world so it just worked. Rather than "Easter eggs" it was legit just like "this is fallout world". Although there were definite references to specific things from many of the games. I dunno if that makes sense.

bitter edge
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You can tell me if that’s accurate lol

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All the moments that made me happy as someone who knows the lore were moments the lore was well integrated

lilac grove
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In what order would you recommend playing the games?

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There are a lot of them and I have maybe 5 hours of free time a week.

woeful rivet
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You don't necessarily need to play them in a specific order. New Vegas is probably the big fan favorite game but Fallout 4 was really accesible to new players. I've heard 76 has gotten better but I'm not a fan of the online nature of it

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I know Kat will recommend you start with New Vegas

lilac grove
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so it's not sequels that build the story?

woeful rivet
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The earlier games do to an extent but not really. It does flesh out the overall world though

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New Vegas is closest in location to the show. Fallout 4 takes place around Boston. 76 is Virgina and is the first vault to open so when the game first came out, there were no human NPCs which people hated.

lilac grove
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so New Vegas would be the place to start if my only interest in the game stems from watching the show?

woeful rivet
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Probably but that's one I have yet to play so I don't know what connection there would be besides that location shown at the end of the show was New Vegas

magic gyro
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Yeah I think there’s going to be a lot of connections between New Vegas and Season 2

rose gorge
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I agree on starting with NV

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It's also more concise of a game than 3 or 4 which sounds like it would work for your schedule

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I'd also recommend avoiding the DLCs for a little while after you start playing if you get the ultimate edition (which you should, it's only like $8 rn on steam)

woeful rivet
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If you wait, Kat can also give you some mods to utilize

dense valley
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theres a character or 2 teased from new vegas

bitter edge
bitter edge
woeful rivet
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You have yet to give me the mod list you said you would last year

bitter edge
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I forgor

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You should’ve asked for a follow up

woeful rivet
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It happens

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I didn't because I wasn't going to play the game yet

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I have an incredibly large backlog

bitter edge
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But you come to me on this, the weekend I independently decided to mod the roommate’s FNV install.
And you don’t even think to call me godfather.

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I’m giving her a vanilla-but-fixed loadout so I’ll tell you the same

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but also remind me and I will get back to you, you know I have crap memory

woeful rivet
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You shall be reminded later

strange jackal
strange jackal
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Step by step guide to getting the most critical things installed, or a guide to use wabbajack (an auto installer) to do it for you

lilac grove
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Mods? Are you not aware that I am a console jockey?

woeful rivet
lilac grove
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that reaction seems about appropriate

strange jackal
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3 and NV on console are... not great

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well, they weren't on release at least, idk if backwards compatibilty on new xbox makes it any better

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4's fine and just got the "next gen" update not that long ago, and can actually do mods on console (to a degree)

lilac grove
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oh god. Am i going to have to get a steam account just to play Fallout? never mind too much work.

strange jackal
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Now's the time to do it if you're going to lmao

dense valley
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ya during the summer sale

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otherwise you gotta wait for black friday sales

lilac grove
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I've waited this long. I can wait a little longer

woeful rivet
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You probably have time. I don’t expect season 2 of the show for another couple years at the speed they go these days

obsidian niche
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oh dang time to cop NV, I’ve only played 4

lilac grove
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oh, that reminds me. I had one question about the show vs. game(s) - the armor suit military/knight types that Maximus is a part of; are they bad guys in the game(s), neutral or good guys?

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My reading from the show is that they're an obstacle in the games.

woeful rivet
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It really depends. Some like siding with them while others don’t.

lilac grove
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Just noticed that their masks are on almost every game cover so I assume they're a big deal.

woeful rivet
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Their whole thing is preserving technology and keeping it from others.

lilac grove
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Oh, are they just a faction you can either side with or side against? Like mages in Dragon Age?

woeful rivet
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Yeah

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At least in 4.

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The show actually answered which of 4’s endings are the cannon ending for the overall world.

lilac grove
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*canon

woeful rivet
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Watch it bud.

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I’ll spell it how I want

lilac grove
strange jackal
woeful rivet
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Yeah. I believe it is a military offshoot post war.

lilac grove
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too much spoiler for me. Not gonna read

strange jackal
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fair enough lmao

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tldr: brotherhood in
3: good guys
NV: guys
4: good guys?

lilac grove
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anyway, just made a Steam account. Fallout 3 is 2.49. Fallout 3 GOTY is 6.59. Are the extras worth the extra $4.10?

woeful rivet
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Why not? It’s $4

lilac grove
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you don't know how much i value $4

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and 10 cents

rose gorge
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absolutely worth

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the DLC for that game is amazing

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OH sorry

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i meant NV

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I didn't play a lot of them for 3 and I can't get it to run on newer windows no matter how hard I try

rose gorge
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I find them almost always insufferable

strange jackal
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oop sorry for ping

rose gorge
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no worries, I don't mind a ping

strange jackal
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TTW converts 3 into dlcs for NV so you get the slightly more updated engine that doesn't hate modern systems

rose gorge
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sounds good, I'll check it out! it's just annoying cause I already own the game and don't like modding haha

vast stirrup
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We're back bitches

rose gorge
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fuck

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i won't have time until like next week

vast stirrup
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Noooo

rose gorge
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guess I'll just have to stay out of here

vast stirrup
rose gorge
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have you watched any of it yet?

vast stirrup
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Watching Ep1 now. Weekly release again

rose gorge
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sweet

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i have been trying not to think about it at all haha

magic gyro
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I liked the first episode, but the stuff with the vault dwellers (aside from Norm) was deeply unfunny.

dense valley
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I dunno where this side story is going with Norm. Its very meh

vast stirrup
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I don't agree. I am happy that he did exactly what I wanted him to from the start of the episode. The rest of V33 I agree with, but they'll likely come back into play with Norm later

dense valley
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no wait not Norm. The other person starting a group thing

vast stirrup
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Oh yeah that I agree with

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Support Group guy lol

woeful rivet
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I wasn't expecting that death so soon.

bitter edge
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I’m caught up now

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My takes:

Thank god we’re getting more Maximus development, we need it. Also love them keeping the proper Latin pronunciation. And I hesitantly like the Legion having gone to shit when the single charismatic leader died, that makes sense. Macaulay Culkin as a Legate is a good move. I’m not sure if I want more Legion or if I’m happy leaving them there but I guess we’ll see.

Also love Norm leading the middle managers via buzzwords. Absolutely the sort of insane, stupid bullshit you would want in a Fallout vault.

It’s still so weird to be the fan getting serviced. They keep jingling keys in my face like I’m a baby and I go “yoooo it’s from the soundtrack <333 my favorite game <333” even though the entire concept of miniaturization goes against canon and the whole Infinite Energy thing is just a bit stupid as a plot device. But then they’re like “look at the plumes on the centurion’s helmet” and I’m like “yay yippie” so who knows. This is a new experience for me.

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Mostly tho I have not forgiven nor forgot Westworld’s nosedive in quality so I’m fingers crossed we won’t see that again.

lilac grove
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I had to start rewatching S1 because I had no idea what was going on. Had zero memory of who the guy who got locked in the one vault was or how he got there (turns out he’s Ella purnell’s brother).

vast stirrup
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Not really complaining, but it's weird that we just completely dropped the other Vault dwellers these last 2 episodes

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It would have been too much, though. We're already focusing on 3 stories per episode

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Technically 4

woeful rivet
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There is a lot going on

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I love how well Goggins sold the ghoul's pure terror at the end.

lilac grove
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Is the scene where Lucy gets ||a buttload of guns|| a specific reference to a part of the games? Like, ||are those all actual guns you can get? Is it a big milestone to get those guns?||

lilac grove
strange jackal
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This week's episode was really good wow

dire sentinel
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strange jackal
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I'm really impressed with how this season has gone

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Jonathan Nolan & Lisa Joy projects don't tend to be as strong after season 1

dense valley
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lucy’s and norms storyline felt very anti-climatic

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just a setup for the next season lol

woeful rivet
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Yup

bitter edge
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someone on tumblr pointed out that Lucy hasn’t mentioned Maximus at all to anyone in S2 and I can’t unsee that now

dire sentinel
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Hmm so fallout 1,2,3, or 76 then since 4 and Vegas are done

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But theories point to Colorado despite the comments to possibly the canceled fallout Van Buren game or fallout tactics/vault 0

bitter edge
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How is 4 done?

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I honest to god have no idea what Lucy and Maximus could be doing anymore. It’s all so … what do yall want.

dire sentinel
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True 🤔

bitter edge
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I wasn’t fully in love with S1 but I figured it would depend on if S2 addressed the things left open, but … no. So now I know things just remain unaddressed.

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I’m not normally a “please explain this to me, Reddit” person but I went looking last night to see if the show had ever bothered to explain Moldaver surviving 200 years and uh, nope.

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When the major antagonist (….kinda) of Season 1 managed to be magically be immortal and they NEVER BOTHERED TO EXPLAIN, I have lost faith in this show to think about anything.

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Sure, The Ghoul is badass. But I ALWAYS hated the addition of the magic anti-feral potion, it feels extremely Bethesda. To add insult to injury, implying that he resists going feral because of his love for his family? What a slap in the face to every other feral ghoul, huh?

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Lucy’s arc was absolutely nothing. She doesn’t HAVE an arc. Two seasons in the wasteland and the question still remains “Will Lucy do bad things? 🥺” and the answer to that seems to be “no”. I’m disinterested in her actions because she just gets carried place to place by more interesting characters.

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Which is a SHAME because I want to like her! Purnell’s acting is top notch but she isn’t given enough to do.

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Maximus is … here. My spicy opinion is this actor just isn’t strong enough to carry this role, and I can’t tell if that’s him, that’s directing, or it’s the script, but I simply don’t care. Both Dane and Thaddeus are more vibrant and interesting actors, with more interesting actions too.

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The BoS plotline … going nowhere? I’m not even sure. I’m almost sure I don’t care tho.

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And if the ghoul is fucking off to Colorado but Lucy and Maximus aren’t, what the fuck is the point of them all sharing screen time? That makes it two separate shows that are competing for 8 hrs of show time.

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Also, Lucy never mentions Maximus or her mom or anything that might matter in S2. So … mmm. I don’t trust the writers and I won’t be filling their giant plot holes.

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Also, Mr. House. What was happening. Why. I don’t know and at this point I’m unsure if I care.

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Also, Sugarbomb is a stupid nickname, it always has been, and Hank repeated it so many times I genuinely began to wonder if he remembered his daughter’s name.

woeful rivet
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Suggestions are that S3 is going towards the stories of the cancelled Fallout game

bitter edge
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:/

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Van Buren?

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Just because Colorado or?

woeful rivet
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Yup

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I think there were some other details besides Colorado that have people thinking Van Buren will be incorporated with S3

bitter edge
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my opinion is just