#Super Secret Invasion Wars

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distant vortex
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This show truly gave us nothing

void loom
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They should've spent the $200m on a Howard The Duck show

winged briar
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also...was Ghost even at the battle in endgame?

glossy oak
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What the fuck was that fight

charred nexus
glossy oak
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Also how are all of those HUMANS able to just walk out of a highly radioactive facility

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Shouldn’t they also be malnourished

distant vortex
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I thought it was clear that they would have picked up DNA at other places than just endgame

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but they do specifically refer to that battle

glossy oak
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And be even more susceptible to the radiation

distant vortex
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because their writing is shite

winged briar
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lol i forgot about that..

distant vortex
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reeeeee dont u understand its reinforced fury only had a problem when he was inside the reactor!1111

glossy oak
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Ok but they’re walking outside and smelling the uranium roses!!!

distant vortex
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someone should have watched chernobyl

glossy oak
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I hate Marvel

distant vortex
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everyone who made this show should be tried for their crimes against tv

glossy oak
winged briar
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again, the radiation plot point was handled with the grace of an 8th grader who will be attending summer school for biology class

distant vortex
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i was talking about the writers of the show but chernobyl is good

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the radiation was an after thought

glossy oak
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I’ve heard very good things

void loom
distant vortex
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Literally NO JOKE their thinking was

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"gravik will never suspect fury is a skrull if he's coughing!"

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that was their logic which is why it's hapzardly in at the end

winged briar
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seriously

distant vortex
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yes this was also insane to me

winged briar
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shoot him in the hand, zero risk

glossy oak
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Nuclear radiation vs coughing Fury

winged briar
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its unclear, maybe even tickling or pinching skulls will force them to reveal too

distant vortex
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LOL TICKLE THE SKRULLS

glossy oak
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LOOOOL

winged briar
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also that president's reaction makes our timeline looks sane and reasonable

distant vortex
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I'm sorry but the writing was on the wall from episode 1 that they were never going to be able to pull this off

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THEY KILLED MARIA HILL FOR WHAT?????????

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BTW??????????????

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AND TALOS????

glossy oak
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So people are now more space racist than ever before so Nick Fury just fucks off

void loom
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This was a $200m hit on Maria Hill

glossy oak
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AN OPENer

distant vortex
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I feel like even if they wanted out Colby's is particurlarly bad

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She could have just been off spying

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Like how Fury was jerking it in a space station for 30 years

glossy oak
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Special Guest Star Colbie Smulders

void loom
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Could've addressed it in the opening crawl of another mid MCU show

glossy oak
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Dies in the first episode

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Gets credited for the whole thing

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I’m surprised Feige had the self restraint to not make the writers fit in a “Where’s Tony” from Rhodey

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Gotta make the fans think he’s been a skrull forever

winged briar
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Tony was actually captured too, Skrull tony died. Tony is back for the next phase

glossy oak
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When was Bilbo taken why isn’t anyone asking how long he’s been a skrull

distant vortex
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WHAT WILL WE DO

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the stakes are simply too high!!

glossy oak
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MAYBE HE WAS A SKRULL IN BP1

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I need answers FEIGE

distant vortex
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ngl i was never interested in echo PERIODT

glossy oak
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Also Rhodey being a skrull for god knows how long means Armor Wars going to suck but we been knew

distant vortex
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but i certainly am not now

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I think I might cancel D+ until Loki comes back

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I don't think I care about Ahsoka either

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literally they were on top of the world

glossy oak
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Well Cz maybe if you watched the 3 TV shows

distant vortex
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What do you want me to watch? Shows for CHILDREN????

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I want more clickbait "was Disney buying Marvel bad for Marvel?!"

glossy oak
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I was MCU shill up until FFH

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After Spidey what’s the point

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Not FFH

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NWH

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too much home

distant vortex
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It makes me sad MCU has been my main fandom now since Iron Man came out but I'm like done with this trash

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Black Adam is probably a better movie than Secret Invasion is a show

winged briar
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oof idk

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do i need to remind you of skateboard kid

distant vortex
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lmaooo

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At least it had a plot and more than 1 entertaining character

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marvel SIMPERY

winged briar
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the kid who gets on his skateboard to go 4 feet on the ground between staircases?

distant vortex
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yeah but kids are dumb

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idk i went to the marvel studios post bottle

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the first comments for me are either complaints or people too dumb to understand the show

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which is like, wow, really impressive

winged briar
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sonatta09 i think we can give a pass, they probably fell asleep during the monologue and reactor scene and then woke up to hulk arm

distant vortex
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lmao

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This is charging my haterade

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kill him off honestly

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He's my favorite avenger but he doesn't need a fifth movie

winged briar
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who would we be left with then

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maybe Iger sells Marvel to WB

void loom
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Was Iron Fist better than this show

charred nexus
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Uhh

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Debatable

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I maintain that season 2 of iron fist was okay

glossy oak
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No action

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Just Chris Hemsworth and his daughter

void loom
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I’m betting Iger & Co are asking RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth how much money it’ll take to make them the big three again

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It can’t be lost on Disney how much the MCU is suffering from a quality POV and how little people care for these new faces

glossy oak
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And now little Marvel cares for old faces

winged briar
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...i care about Miles

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what they should take away is that you need good story telling and not just...whatever this show was

charred nexus
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I know there’s a 2-3 year gap where the world was on pause there, but it’s fucking wild that by this long into the MCU from its start we already had Avengers happen

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We’re 5 years into the “next 10 years” and what do we really have to show for it

winged briar
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idk, we got to see yellow hoverchair prof X for a little bit? wandavision was kinda neat

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deadpool is gonna do something

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oh yeah i mean, tons of characters i don't care about, IronHeart is cool in theory*, but oof, i didn't love how they did it in BP2

distant vortex
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I kind of disagree and think more of their issues are on execution vs the characters

winged briar
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they introduced a ton of new cool people in BP2 with zero room to breathe, gave new captain a pretty boring TV show intro. Meanwhile Loki was great, hawkeye was fun and Kate Bishop moving forward has a good foundation

distant vortex
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Antman was successful enough to get a third movie and what did they do? Make the worst movie possible

winged briar
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I love Paul Rudd as antman, i really don't enjoy the movies outside of his charisma

charred nexus
glossy oak
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And then Majors actual villain/horrible person arc started

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Well less started and more became public

void loom
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A big part of it for me is that the shows as a narrative devices don’t work. Comic book movies already have trouble telling a cohesive story in a tight 120-minutes, where every second is supposed to have purpose and meaning.

When you give a show like this 6-episodes, you’re already starting in debt. There’s simply not enough meat on this bone to warrant six weeks of content. And if you drop that town to four, which it probably should’ve been, you’re now at the point where it could probably just be a movie.

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Which is a way of saying Disney+ killed the mcu

charred nexus
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They really should have been more specific with how long Rhodey was replaced

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It would have helped a lot with the overall reception to the show i think

glossy oak
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Yep

teal roost
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wait, so they said it's been a "long time" that Rhodes has been down there? Are they feeding these guys? are they pooping? what's the deal with that?

distant vortex
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Don't think too hard about it because they certainly didn't.

teal roost
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and if it's been a "long time", that means like years? That's a lot of poop.... and wouldn't War Machines suit know that it's not him?

shut marsh
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just don’t think too hard ppRapLaugh

teal roost
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was the location of Rhodes and the other human leaders at the same place as G'iah and Gravik?

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ie, would they all have radiation poisoning right now too? heh

jovial raptor
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That’s thinking about it too much

errant ice
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glossy oak
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This ain’t it, chief

torpid musk
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so how about that secret invasion

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peak marvel amirite

toxic ingot
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Marvel Studios has

  • Iman Vehli
  • Florence Pugh
  • Hailey Steinfeld
  • Tatiana Maslany
  • Alaqua Cox
  • Simu Liu

And they're not really doing anything with any of them, outside of The Marvels and a Shang-Chi sequel coming out in like 2030 at this point.

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I'm sure they'll blame all the women and POC for the failure of the MCU though

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I still consider this better than Loki, but not by much.

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Samuel L Jackson's costume in the MCU is just being bald and wearing an eye patch. And they didn't even want to do that until the last ten minutes.

void loom
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the parks have more consistency than the shows

toxic ingot
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Would it have killed him to take off the hat? I know it's cold in Russia

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Nick Fury with something on his head is like CeeLo Green without sunglasses

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It's just uncomfortable

jovial raptor
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I think I would’ve liked this better if Hill’s death was a fake out and this show ended with her taking over for Fury for the most part.

toxic ingot
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I think this works better as a period piece

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Set it in 2002 Afghanistan, use 9/11 if they want to be edgelords instead of killing... what was it, 2 million people in Red Square? Lol.

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By which I mean, draw parallels between persecution of brown people in the wake of the attacks with persecution of the Skrulls

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That way you don't have Gravek rancoring for 30 years, only like 7 or 8

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Because otherwise there's really no excuse for Fury and Carol (the latter of which isn't even here to defend herself from character assassination)

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I guess Marvel is going to pull a LucasFilm and move to appease the people who already hate Carol because Bri Larson isn't penisy enough to be a superhero.

grand lintel
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This is duuuuuumb

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President turning on the Skrulls and there being an even more secret Skrull society with the British lady should've been midseason

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Also DNA soup of all the avengers combined is dumb, like could've made it just a briefcase full of vials and it would've made it less dumb

flint crypt
charred nexus
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Armor wars ain’t happening

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Of all the things they’ve announced that feels the most likely to be canned quietly

grand lintel
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I wonder how much of this show changed with the reshoots

honest frigate
flint crypt
toxic ingot
charred nexus
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I’m going with this for now

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They did very explicitly have him in leg braces when not in the suit, and then he didn’t have that in Falcon

jovial raptor
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That’s also a key thing besides his snark. Yes he was snarky before but the snark in this was different. Like making a joke about putting on the suit and carpet bombing at the beginning of the series?

grand lintel
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The ending to this show is weird, feels like a set up to season 2. But knowing how the MCU works, season 2 is unlikely and it will probably get picked up in other projects

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Also are MCU writers just incapable of not writing a big cgi fight for the final episode, or is it like a mandate

glossy oak
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The ending sets up a more interesting thriller than this one that we’ll never get

grand lintel
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Would've been interesting to see a big shake up midseason but that never happened

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For a thriller mystery about secret invasions, everything that happened was telegraphed

torpid musk
errant ice
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Idk how she seems older in solo than she did in secret invasion

grand lintel
marble void
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Wait lol season 2 is way better than this shit

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Should’ve just gone all out war

marble void
marble void
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Im just gonna imagine season 2 is coming out and it’s gonna be good

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For a cgi finale fest, this was fairly tame

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I wish they built up the tension of the president calling off the strike, they did a good job with the earlier possible plane strike I thought

charred nexus
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and of those four he's most likely to show up first since Cap 4 is actually a hulk movie

toxic ingot
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Live action Code: Lyoko looking pretty good so far

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winged briar
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that crisp hairline tho

flint crypt
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Im so confused as to why they made this honestly. Its just baffling how horrible it is

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Like something like Wandavision that ends poorly is one thing, but i cannot think of a single redeeming factor of this show

charred nexus
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olivia colman's character was neat

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that's about it

void loom
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Feels more and more like Disney is catering to an audience that "wants stuff related to Marvel" and the threshold for quality is "it exists", which is such a bummer

rich prairie
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I think they must’ve reshot a ton of the show

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Specifically the finale

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because like even fatws manages to tell a coherent story

flint crypt
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If i was Iger, id legitimately be reconsidering if Feiges the guy anymore

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They gotta reign this in a little bit

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I feel like every new show turns into the lowest viewed one

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I pretty much binged the entire thing and honestly i considered giving up I was so damn bored

rich prairie
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everything feels so all over the place

void loom
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My hot take: drop the shared universe. Go back to making standalone pieces that just so happen to have a stinger which might lead to an event.

rich prairie
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like remember how wandavision set up S.W.O.R.D

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And nothing happened with that

void loom
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They're also mistaking "is a comic" for "will be good"

rich prairie
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also the choices for which characters get shows seems all over the place

void loom
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Which is also one of the more ridiculous defensive moves you see on Twitter/Reddit when someone questions the quality of these shows. "But it's just like the comic!" ... the comic wasn't good, either?

rich prairie
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The one criticism I don’t get is people being like “the director should’ve read the original comic”

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When the entire secret invasion comic is just weird islamphobia

errant ice
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I like Disney marvel content and I thought it was good for like the first 4 episodes

rich prairie
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Like I’ve enjoyed all the shows even though they haven’t been the greatest

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But this one was just

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really bad

distant vortex
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wym super skrull aren't enough???

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I don't think the issue is Feige - I think it's the creative council and being stretched too thin.

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Also, who do you get to replace Feige?

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I think they need to reel in their content strategy and go back to basics. The OG marvel movies weren't known for their reshoots.

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Is he approving or is he PUSHING too many projects? IMO Iger/Chapek are responsible for the problems.

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They have been pushing content for their failing streaming services since D+ Launched.

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Yeah COVID didn't help, but at this point they can't rely on that excuse anymore

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I don't know that I necessarily agree that Feige is singlehandedly pushing having this much content. I think the order came from above to develop streaming content since you see it in their other verticals as well. Maybe on the movie side he's guilty.

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All of their D+ shows fucking suck

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It isn't a Marvel problem

errant ice
kind grove
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I wish

distant vortex
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What was Willow's budget?

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Book of Boba Fett - $105 million. really good use of money there.

jovial raptor
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They’re blowing money on crap

distant vortex
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MCU is absolutely overspending but part of that was the buy in of getting the movie actors for the beginning shows. But D+ is overspending across the board.

jovial raptor
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There are things that are solid but most is shit

distant vortex
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For National Treasure tv show - According to the Baton Rouge Film Commission, the total production budget for this series was $79,687,654.

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They spent $80 million on that national treasure show that five people watched

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I would guess WIllow is around there if not higher

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i can't either only about the original movie

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they don't want you to know how much they wasted on it

void loom
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Honestly, step one is to fire Filoni

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And then fully invest in Favreau's vision

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2026 launch the Chef-based MCU

errant ice
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Cowboy man did nothing wrong

void loom
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When in doubt, blame Cowboy Man

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Would any of you pay to go to a Galactic Cruiser type experience, but it was Avengers Campus

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A 2-night experience where Nick Fury tells you nothing and you're left figuring out what to do on your own

errant ice
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Avengers campus dorm night

distant vortex
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Lol ABSOLUTELY NOT

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have you seen AC? that shit would look like prison cells

void loom
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But you can learn about ESPIONAGE

distant vortex
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it's actually just this

void loom
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TLCOP

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I'm surprised they didn't capitlize on Fury Mania by putting an escape room experience in DTD

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"Nick's Great Escape"

distant vortex
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I mean there's a lot they could capitalize on and make it cool but they're incapable of doing so

void loom
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Please ████ ████ ███ ██ ███ ███ ████ █████████ ████ leave

jovial raptor
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I wanted to watch that national treasure show but I kept forgetting it existed

charred nexus
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more of a marvel nerd than he is

charred nexus
distant vortex
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sorry not putting a child as head of marvel

void loom
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Honestly at this point D+ should pivot to TikTok for new MCU series

torpid musk
distant vortex
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hey can't you drink at least

torpid musk
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I’m only two months older than her

distant vortex
void loom
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Sign me up

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Give me Awful Invasion as 10 5-minute clips over the course of two weeks and I'm good

distant vortex
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i was literally just lowkey throwing shade at my coworker for not editing their tik toks in true tik tok fashion

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imagine a marvel show with those cuts

void loom
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Characters duetting each other

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And responding to comments

distant vortex
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i hope they only use filters for voices

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And sorry, not all 20 year olds are children, but their brains are still developing. I don't think any 20 year old should head up Marvel division. it's not just "how much comic book knowledge" you have

torpid musk
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I was just joking about you indirectly calling me a child ppRapLaugh I completely agree

distant vortex
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I didn’t want to hurt your feelings!!!!!

winged briar
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Ms Marvel has everything going for it except the superhero story. the villains are TERRIBLE , her and the family dynamic was A++

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I'm betting that Iman steals the show in The Marvels

grand lintel
toxic ingot
toxic ingot
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If Iman turns out to be like some sort of savant at comic book writing when Ms Marvel comes out this fall maybe she can have the job. As it stands I can't think of a worse first comic to have to do than "Ms Marvel was dead for no reason and now she's alive but she's a mutant and an Inhuman at the same time and also a terrorist attack happened like 15 minutes after she woke up"

flint crypt
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They set WAY too much stupid shit up. Like im supposed to know Sharon Carters a bad guy, Hulk has a son, Rhodey was a skrull, Ms Marvels a mutant and a ton more ridiculous shit

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These shows were the worst idea ever.

void loom
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@distant vortex our boys coming in hot

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distant vortex
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OH HELL YEAH I WAS WAITING

charred nexus
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It’s probably because I’ve also been binge rewatching West Wing for the last two weeks but I still can’t get over how insanely lax they had the fucking security for the President be in this show

void loom
toxic ingot
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It took me until this episode to realize that the President was Admiral Stenz from Godzilla

crisp dust
charred nexus
marble void
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I dont think the issue lies with feige

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They need to just chill and make like 1 series a year max

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Issue is compounded when they are using marvel to get content onto Disney+

flint crypt
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I dont wanna necessarily blame feige the same way i dont wanna just blame Kennedy(im not starting a debate i swear), but at the end of the day, he has a ton of influence. Maybe Chapek or Iger demanded a ton of shows, i have no clue, but some of these shows should have been scrapped and i feel like Feige has the influence to get that done

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When they announced they were making shows, I swear they said they wouldnt be required viewing but so far and were basically extra content for die hards, but now its clear these pretty much HAVE to be seen

grand lintel
flint crypt
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Id like to imagine disney isnt stupid enough to have demanded garbage get made if Feige is telling them its gonna hurt the brand

grand lintel
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But it could be feige cause all the projects he announced are going through. Lucasfilm tho is at like a 30% completion rate

charred nexus
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I put it more on Feige especially since it was very public that he took over more direct control of the studio after Phase 2

flint crypt
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In fairness i feel A LOT of announced movies and shows wont happen for Marvel either

grand lintel
flint crypt
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Like when are we getting an Okoye show thats apparently not the wakanda show, or the ten rings show, or armor wars

charred nexus
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Like the Feige reluctantly announcing an Inhumans movie is not the same Feige running things today

flint crypt
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Aside from the strikes, I feel like Marvel pulled out of comic con because they really just had nothing to announce because so much shits gonna have to change

grand lintel
flint crypt
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Oh yeah i agree there, I cant imagine they are gonna batgirl it all, but i dont think the announced stuff is safe

charred nexus
flint crypt
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Wakanda Forever is probably the most disappointing movie in the MCU

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Not the worst

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The most disappointing

grand lintel
flint crypt
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Its sad cause they did so much right with it but just had to bloat tf out of it to set up more shit

grand lintel
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tbf it was the first mcu film in a long time i missed in theaters, but damn its not even like L&T bad where its mentioned all the time

flint crypt
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Yeah its just mid

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Way way too mid

grand lintel
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also the underwater looks GARBAGE compared to what Jim cooked

jovial raptor
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I’m still just meh over Wakanda Forever and I don’t know if they could’ve done anything to change that. It sucks that by the end I was rooting for everyone to just lose

grand lintel
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cutting a lot of the side stuff wouldve been an immediate bonus

jovial raptor
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But the characters were just unlikeable

flint crypt
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I gotta be honest, and I was hoping to love her, but they coulda scrapped Iron Heart entirely

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And also Elaine and Bilbo

grand lintel
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WF adding like 2-3 new characters that use the Iron Man helmet vision 🤦‍♂️

flint crypt
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Whats the consensus in here on if they should have recast Chadwick?

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Ok same

crisp dust
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They made the right call not to imo

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Its split here for sure

flint crypt
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I definitely see both sides, but I feel overall it would have been the right move

toxic ingot
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Killing T'Challa was good for "the brand" but bad for the story

grand lintel
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either is fine but whats worse is not recasting but then giving him a son of the same name

crisp dust
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But I think it would have been a disservice to the actor and the impact he made in the community.

flint crypt
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I thought he wanted it recast?

crisp dust
flint crypt
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Oh i just assumed it was real because why would reddit lie

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Im dumb

crisp dust
toxic ingot
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The only thing he said was "the next time you see Black Panther, it's going to be with a 2 after it," upon accepting his SAG Award

grand lintel
crisp dust
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Oh 100%

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And mark my words, he will be aged up post Secret Wars with multiverse nonsense

grand lintel
crisp dust
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Post Secret Wars MCU is gonna be wild,

toxic ingot
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I don't want to talk about Wakanda Forever anymore though. A gross movie, tbh

flint crypt
crisp dust
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I can’t wait

toxic ingot
flint crypt
crisp dust
toxic ingot
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They won't make good movies, only "hype" ones

grand lintel
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while mcu is falling apart can i at least get moon knight s2?

flint crypt
crisp dust
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I’d prefer if we just forget about Moon Knight

flint crypt
toxic ingot
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I'm more excited for Moon Knight than Thunderbolts

grand lintel
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lol forgot about that

flint crypt
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Thunderbolts lineup actually does have me intrigued

grand lintel
toxic ingot
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That was another own-goal

crisp dust
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The one time they try to give us Jewish character we get Moon Knight, which was such a fucking cop out

flint crypt
grand lintel
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it was fake? lol maybe it was, i havent followed it

toxic ingot
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All they had to do was make Dark Avengers and they couldn't even do that

crisp dust
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!lies

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flint crypt
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Maybe, i need to again say this info is reddit

crisp dust
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Petition to rename !lies to !reddit

toxic ingot
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The Thunderbolts are entirely composed of super soldiers and people who aren't villains.

grand lintel
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Ghost Powers in secret invasion so she might show up lol

toxic ingot
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I think Ghost got scrapped from the MCU after Ant-Man failed

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That's what that whole Convo is about lol

flint crypt
grand lintel
crisp dust
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Why is this convo happening in a spoiler chat?

flint crypt
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There were rumors a few months ago she got written out but i BELIEVE those werent true

flint crypt
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Secret Invasion is hopefully the kick in the ass marvel needs to slow down

toxic ingot
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The rate isn't the problem

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It's that they won't use any of their good characters

flint crypt
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See I disagree. You can make any character great

toxic ingot
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12 episodes of TV a year isn't "too much, too fast."

flint crypt
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And even good characters are being wasted

toxic ingot
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It's just that they make these insane little shows with no point

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Why did Loki matter?

flint crypt
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Arguably Loki is the most important one so far besides WandaVision

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And that’s only important to explain why shes a bad guy in a movie that got rewritten

toxic ingot
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But it doesn't

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Wanda isn't a bad guy at the end of Wandavision. In fact, the opposite was true

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She unlearned the thesis statement of Wandavision between movies

flint crypt
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Even in the post credits of Wandavision shes using dark magic though. At best she stopped torturing people who couldnt help her in anyway

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So far, yeah

toxic ingot
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Ms Marvel had that little teaser

crisp dust
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Uh. So far yeah

toxic ingot
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But that's fine. I think it's fine that you can watch the movies without the shows

crisp dust
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I’m excited for The Marvels tbh, I haven’t watched this show yet

flint crypt
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Cap 4 obviously will but thats not actually out and that one may be easier to explain. If you just saw endgame and then cap 4, youd be able to buy that hes Captain America

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But if you went from Endgame to Strange 2, youd be lost

toxic ingot
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I was excited for the Marvels. I think it will fail like everything else does and Brie Larson won't be in anymore Marvel movies

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And that will pretty much be the nail in the coffin for Marvel with me

crisp dust
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I’m shocked that you think its going to fail

grand lintel
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general audiences have no idea who 2 of the 3 main leads are

flint crypt
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It wont flop, but it wont make as much as the first, but thats a given

toxic ingot
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All of my favorite characters are either dead (Natasha, Steve), ruined (Thor) or in limbo (Kate, Yelena, Jen, etc)

flint crypt
toxic ingot
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There's pretty much just Carol and Kamala left

crisp dust
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Okay wait lets define fail, do we mean it’ll be bad or flop at box office?

flint crypt
toxic ingot
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Yes

crisp dust
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Flop at box office is very possible

grand lintel
flint crypt
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Flop is possible, complete and total failure not a chance

crisp dust
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I think its still likely going to be a good to decent film

flint crypt
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We arent getting Flash or Indy level bombs yet

toxic ingot
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Only four movies have been remotely successful at the box office this summer.

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And two of them were last weekend

crisp dust
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The movie theater industry is undergoing a massive shift

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Its going to be an interesting time

flint crypt
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Because they’re over saturating the market with movies that are mid and will be streaming in a week

grand lintel
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its gonna do worse than gotg vol3 and even that only made probably $300mil after marketing and budget

flint crypt
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Nothings gonna make a billion on name alone anymore

grand lintel
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Super Mario

toxic ingot
grand lintel
crisp dust
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Both good to decent films, but they made the billion on brand recognition

flint crypt
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Ok maybe i should rephrase, nothings gonna make a billion just because the last one did

toxic ingot
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Avatar didn't exactly have a masterful script or cast going for it

crisp dust
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Again Avatar ppRapLaugh

toxic ingot
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Guardians also has characters people like. There's a massive online campaign against the leads of The Marvels.

flint crypt
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Avatar is James Camerons first movie in over a decade. Hes the exception

toxic ingot
flint crypt
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If he pumped out a sequel a year after as fast as possible, i cant imagine it would have been well received. Also its incredible so that alone woulda sold it

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*First directing job

crisp dust
toxic ingot
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Didn't know that lol

flint crypt
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Like Marvel or Star Wars or Fast and Furious cannot survive on brand name alone

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Especially when movie tickets are 17 dollars and peacock or disney plus will have the movie in a month

crisp dust
marble void
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Loki

flint crypt
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The same director as this masterpiece

flint crypt
marble void
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I don’t think feige can cancel these shows

marble void
grand lintel
charred nexus
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Falcon hasn’t yet but Cap 4 is that, and She-Hulk will probably tie into Cap 4 too

marble void
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They have to put content on Disney+

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No multiverse without loki

flint crypt
marble void
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dr strange

grand lintel
charred nexus
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Wait is Ruffalo not even announced for Cap 4

flint crypt
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Wait how did loki impact Americas powers?

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Did I miss something?

toxic ingot
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I have a feeling all the "load bearing" shows are going to stay in the rotation, but all the shows with potential (because they don't tie into Kang Dynasty) will be axed.

grand lintel
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Loki opens up the multiverse

marble void
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Is my assessment

grand lintel
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but its moreso an explanation as to why there wasnt multiverse before

charred nexus
grand lintel
marble void
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Look I’m not saying it’s a super good connection lol

flint crypt
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I mean this is getting way off topic but didnt Deadpool technically travel the multiverse at the end of 2 which is apparently canon?

charred nexus
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Fair

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Also lol #marvel-archive exists but fuck it I guess

toxic ingot
grand lintel
toxic ingot
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Remember that Loki takes place in a world outside of time

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So it could have happened at any point (say, before Steve time travels in Endgame)

flint crypt
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Fair enough

marble void
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I’m not gonna think too hard about time travel lol

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Or multiverse implications

toxic ingot
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We could have had a movie where Yelena and Kate go on a mission together paralleling when Nat and Clint were partners, but instead here's 100 clones of Jonathan Majors at a rugby game

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Alright I'm going to run away to #marvel-archive npw

distant vortex
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Why is Wakanda forever a gross movie @toxic ingot

errant ice
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I think I’ve mentally blocked out every part of that movie except namor and Riri

toxic ingot
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The first BP also heavily features death as a story element. T'Chaka, N'Jobu, the whole Wakandan ancestral plane concept. But it feels like a movie about T'Challa and N'Jadaka and their grief, whereas this movie feels like the characters have to process someone else's grief.

charred nexus
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Worst possible answer, which tracks for marvel lately

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This is the director agreeing with the “hospital gown and can’t walk” at the end meaning right after his crash at the airport

marble void
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Oh why did he do that

charred nexus
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Worst case scenario until they realize that sucks and change it

marble void
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I’m still upset we saw 0 instances of them skrulling anyone

toxic ingot
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If he was a Skrull in Infinity War, why didn't he just kill the rest of the Avengers and nuke Earth during the blip?

void loom
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This is the dumbest revelation possible and I hate it

marble void
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Yeah the skrull turn was very recent

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The real question is if the skrulls were in charge of all major world governments, except the US, why didn’t they push for a skrull community

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Especially with new Asgard

void loom
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RIP meaningful character relationships

Rhodey_28Death_of_Tony_Stark29.webp Peter_Parker_26_Steve_Rogers.webp
marble void
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I’m just gonna ignore the dude

void loom
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Turns out Ali Selim also didn't watch any of the previous films/show, probably.

woven forge
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But his blood was red in endgame

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Not purple

void loom
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I wonder if they're going to modify Endgame on the platform and make it purple

flint crypt
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Does this mean he doesn’t know Tonys dead?

marble void
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I guess not, he doesn’t know shit

glossy oak
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God I wish this was real

winged briar
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yeah i brought up the utter beating he takes in InfinityGame and doesn't show his skrull form?

flint crypt
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This would legitimately be the biggest plot twist in history

glossy oak
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And they fumbled it

winged briar
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also tony's suit software can't figure out he's not human? (i'm willing to hand wave this one)

glossy oak
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Justice for skrull Terrence howard

marble void
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I mean what purpose does it serve though

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Skrull Rhodey is dead

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Everything from rhodey in infinity war and endgame just doesn’t matter now lol

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Someone should’ve stopped this dude

flint crypt
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Im genuinely shocked they allowed such a sloppy twist to go down

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Like if you wanna say hes been a skrull since after endgame, fine

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Its dumb but whatever

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But since Civil War is asinine

glossy oak
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Feige must have been busy cause this sounds too stupid for him to gree light

flint crypt
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Feige was too busy making a star wars movie to notice

marble void
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After endgame is fine I agree

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Does he appear anywhere since then?

flint crypt
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Falcon for like a minute

winged briar
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previous to this show, do we see him walking unassisted without leg armor?

marble void
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Ah whatever

glossy oak
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He was busy pushing Blade back again when an intern showed up “Hey they want to make Rhodey a skrull and he’s one since Civil War”
“Huh who yeah whatever”

winged briar
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because that seems like the give away

glossy oak
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I can’t wait for ARMOR WARS

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With a lead who hasn’t seen the light of day since 2016

flint crypt
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I really think they just didnt even come up with a time frame for the switch to happen and just said civil war cause, why not

glossy oak
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They didn’t come up with any of this, they’re just pulling it out of their asses

marble void
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Id take Sam Rockwell back

winged briar
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this whole thing is like, 100% retcon material

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"Oh hey, Skrull Tony actually died. also Skrull Black Widow"

glossy oak
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Watch they’ll be like “you gotta watch rhodey’s behavior change between movies” and no it’ll just be Don Cheadle because they obviously didn’t plan this

marble void
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I would’ve laugh my ass off

flint crypt
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Tbh if they just quietly agree that this show never happened and none of the consequences matter they’d legitimately get away with it because nobody watched it

marble void
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I mean if the director didn’t say shit

glossy oak
winged briar
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Tom Holland gonna be super happy to have his daddy back

marble void
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Tony’s body got buried right

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Damn took a few months or smth

winged briar
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OR DID IT

flint crypt
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If tony or natasha ever come back, even multiversal or skrull bs, ill stop watching Marvel all together

marble void
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I mean we are going with nobody knows

glossy oak
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Lbr They will in Secret Wars

flint crypt
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Better not be

winged briar
flint crypt
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If they did that Tom Cruise other universe Iron Man, id be fine, but if RDJ or Scarlet come back im 100% done

charred nexus
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infinity war he has the leg braces on, endgame he's in the suit pretty much the whole time i think right?

flint crypt
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Why wouldnt skrull rhodey just take all the stones and do skrull things with them

charred nexus
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at least as cameos

marble void
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They just infiltrated and then did nothing

toxic ingot
distant vortex
# toxic ingot I don't personally see the "T'Challa dies of cancer off screen" cold open as a p...

Honestly, I find it kind of offensive to refer to it as a “gross” movie. I just don’t think you got the right read on it. Like, let’s start with the basics:

  • Cultural climate at the time won’t allow for him to be recast. And wouldn’t that have been more “gross” - to instantly march on with a recasting?
  • If you don’t recast and you don’t acknowledge his death, how do you have a second movie? Not making a second movie isn’t a great option - 1) I don’t think that’s what Chadwick would have wanted and 2) it would have been a disservice to the fans.
  • I think you’re basically forgetting that Ryan Coogler (and the rest of the cast/crew) were his friends. Ryan Coogler wrote the script - It’s him writing the script as a touching moment for his friend.
  • It was also a way for the fans to pay tribute and grieve with them. What’s wrong with that? Chadwick Boseman / T’Challa meant a lot to people. Look at the response to BP 1 and actually why they couldn’t recast him.
  • How should they have shown him on screen? Like Leia in Rise of Skywalker? Would that have been a better solution? IMO off screen is the only appropriate method.
  • Also, they specifically avoided saying it was cancer - imo that’s intentionality and appropriate.
  • Shuri’s arc in the movie is representative of the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
  • It not shying away from strong emotions (in particular Angela Bassett) is IMO meaningful. It adds weight to the situation - they easily could have given it a quip and fucked off like other MCU movies. And once again, Angela Bassett was his friend.
  • Also, to touch on your point regarding film 1. First off, what they did with his father’s death is part of his comic origin. The Black Panther character in the comics is intertwined with death. He is literally anointed “King of the Dead.” But also like, they couldn’t have predicted the future when they made that movie.
  • IMO, I think it’s a pretty nuanced and well done tribute within the confines of an MCU movie. The fact that they were even able to do that speaks to the strength of the team involved.
  • If you want to look at a movie that did ignore the elephant in the room - look to the Fast and Furious movies who have pretended that Brian is alive.

I’m not saying they could never recast him, but it’s one of those things there needs to be enough time between and at the time there wasn’t.

Anyway, if you don’t want to see a movie about grief, don’t watch Haunted Mansion. Grief is a forever part of the human experience and for many people expressing it in art is a cathartic form.

void loom
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IMO it was gross that Disney used his death to elevate the character of Black Panther instead of honoring Chadwick as an individual

distant vortex
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Sure, I think there's an argument to be made that maybe it should have never been made at all. I think that's valid but naïve under the capitalist machine. But I think for what it is - they handled the subject with grace.

void loom
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Oh, to be clear: this is less about the sequel and more about making murals of him that were attached to BP and tying all of the tributes to "Wakanda"

tacit cypress
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There’s also a lot to be said though about what he meant for a lot of kids though.

distant vortex
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I think it's tough because I think T'Challa in the MCU and him are very intertwined. and Wakanda as a concept means a lot to people - it's not my place to speak on that IMO.

jovial raptor
tacit cypress
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I know many of my black friends T’Challa and just the concept of Wakanda in general meant a lot to them

errant ice
void loom
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He was pretty open about his growing disinterest in being reduced to an arms crossed gesture and Disney basically said "let's use that as the symbol of his legacy"

distant vortex
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Like Wakanda being basically Africa without colonization is why Wakanda is important and why it continues to resonate with people. So Idk. I don't know if that's so much Disney

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I mean the real sin was committed by the OSCARS anyway

charred nexus
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I think Wakanda Forever is a good tribute to Boseman's memory. My bigger problem is Disney's overall commercializing of grief around it.

distant vortex
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Yeah, I think that's fair.

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but honestly Disney is going to continue to commercialize basically everything

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You could take that view of Coco if you really wanted to

glossy oak
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Nope keep commercializing that one

void loom
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I think a key difference is Chadwick was an actual human and they said "come to this mural and please go shopping after"

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Like that mural doesn't make me think they're honoring Chadwick, it makes me think they're honoring Black Panther

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And that's what I feel gross over

marble void
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You’ve honestly put a million times more thought into this than Disney ever did

void loom
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Disney's last few years in a nutshell

charred nexus
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(two days in a row btw where #marvel-archive doesn't exist lmao)

distant vortex
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IMO that mural is acknowledging Chadwick as a person while acknowledging the impact he had as BP on other generations. The mural doesn't bother me, personally. I think doing something is better than doing nothing and everything Disney does is going to be through a capitalist lens, in all honesty.

void loom
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I'm a skrull and am unaware of other channels that Bagel might've frequented

errant ice
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To be fair once a marvel show ends we kinda just use it as the most recent marvel thread with spoilers

distant vortex
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I feel like they also did other things, but I can't say I followed the "Chadwick Boseman death pipeline" to really speak to it comfortably. And I don't want to google it lol

void loom
distant vortex
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Can you give receipts?

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Because I've personally never heard that until now.

marble void
void loom
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ify69yAMpnk

YouTube
justdenise
Chadwick Boseman Says He's SICK of the Wakanda Forever Salute for 4...

In which we look at the times when Chadwick Boseman tells use how tired he is of the Wakanda Forever Salute!

Tom Holland Can’t Stop His Spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a88tDR51JUQ

Avengers Cast Being the CUTEST With Kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DDU5X8KNyU

Marvel Cast Funny Moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKCWqonFHI...

▶ Play video
distant vortex
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I can't watch that right now because I'm on a meeting

marble void
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I tried to look up some stuff but all I found was articles saying Chadwick wasn’t a fan of replacing black panther with shuri

void loom
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Also Bill Simmons podcast when he was interviewed and Bill asked outright if he was over it and Chadwick more-or-less was like "yea it's not my thing"

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He wanted to be recognized for his other work and felt trapped in a pose

distant vortex
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Yeah I mean that's every MCU actor

void loom
distant vortex
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Honestly? But sometimes symbols transcend things

void loom
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100%

distant vortex
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How much is that an actor just not wanting to get typecast vs. actively hating the symbol?

void loom
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But if you as a company know someone didn't love something and you said hey, let's do that exact thing to honor him

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It feels wrong

toxic ingot
distant vortex
marble void
void loom
marble void
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Yeah there’s nothing in that thing you linked lol

void loom
marble void
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The first video

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He’s saying that he gets it a lot

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Not that he doesn’t want the action associated with him

void loom
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Disagree but if we interpet it differently I don't think we're going to shift one another's opinion on it

distant vortex
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This article is sad because it's talking about him looking tired

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Which is obviously because no one knew what was going on at the time

void loom
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Yea, the articles pre-2020 are really sad in hindsight

summer gorge
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That first justdenise video showed absolutely nothing that he hated it. That was pure clickbait shit.

distant vortex
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tbh I think the dude was just tired / going through a lot / and tired of getting plagued by people wanting to do it outside his house. That doesn't mean he actually hated the symbol.

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There's a huge difference between like not wanting to get bothered by fans and actively disagreeing with the salute.

void loom
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I think that video + listening to how he speaks about it on the Simmons podcast is enough for me to be like "not the best way to honor him"

marble void
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The clip around 30 min says he’s tired of doing it every time he sees someone

void loom
marble void
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Which is not the same again as “I don’t want this associated with me anymore”

distant vortex
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And I would have hoped that Disney would have been smart enough to ask how his family felt about some of these things - in private

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Or his "estate" whatever

marble void
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He also says “if I wanna do it I’ll do it”

void loom
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Again: we disagree and I think that's okay.

marble void
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I do think it’s a bit much to ask people to comment based on your unique understanding of a situation

distant vortex
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None of these people watch the other shows/movies

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That much is clear

marble void
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“Does it have to be definitive?” Uh yes it does

void loom
marble void
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He must’ve watched inception too many times

glossy oak
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Imma be real

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I don’t this director was a good pick

distant vortex
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how controversial of you

jovial raptor
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If they watched Endgame they would've known that when the building collapsed and he had to exit his suit, Rhodey couldn't use his legs then.

marble void
jovial raptor
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Either the story people are shit about continuity or that skrull needs an award for committing to the bit.

glossy oak
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Someone had to say it

marble void
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Feel like skrull president but real rhodey that got suckered in would’ve been a much better plot point

jovial raptor
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Make Rhodey part of the good side of this thriller finding out it goes all the way to the top

glossy oak
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And then trying to fix the system from within

marble void
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Yeah you could still have him fighting fury but it comes off way better because it’s really rhodey

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And then easy transition into Harrison ford as president

glossy oak
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Hire fans

void loom
glossy oak
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Or any movie

jovial raptor
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And I just saw something that they won't read bad reviews about their work.

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How does one expect to change for the better without accepting criticism.

distant vortex
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LOOOOOOOOOOL

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that person is a hack then

errant ice
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Anyway she-hulk remains in the top for Disney+ marvel shows

jovial raptor
glossy oak
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Who hired this guy

void loom
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“I don’t read reviews. With all due respect. For me, I view all the storytelling work I do as a dialogue with an audience. When the show is finished and put up on the screen, that’s my half of the dialogue. And the audience then starts their half of the response to it. I think that’s valuable, but I don’t know how to answer the question.”

glossy oak
shut marsh
void loom
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How do you have a "dialogue with an audience" when you don't read or listen to what they're saying? This guy ...

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Once again I'm left wondering "why would Filoni do this?"

charred nexus
jovial raptor
winged briar
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might as well say "I will take your money, make something, and then claim no responsibility if it's good or not. Who wants to hire me?"

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i keep coming back to how BAD this show was, and yet twisted metal is actually GOOD

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Fury: "It's personal, I gotta clean this up."
Makes it substantially worse
Leaves

marble void
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Tbf he did make it better for the humans

winged briar
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is it 'better' if people are going around randomly shooting people like the salem witch trials?

marble void
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Better than nuclear winter

jovial raptor
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We still don't know if New Asgard is apart of his targeting though probably since he said all aliens.

charred nexus
marble void
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How long did it take y’all to know it wasn’t fury

winged briar
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the limp and coughing

marble void
winged briar
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because Fury knows how radiation works even if the writers don't

jovial raptor
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I figured it probably wasn't immediately and was putting on a show for security

marble void
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They had a long shot of him outside after he kills the first two guards

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I was like hmmm this don’t feel right

winged briar
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I don't understand Giah's plan at all

jovial raptor
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I don't think she has one now

winged briar
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'I'm gonna go there, hope he keeps me/fury alive and inside the machine, then i'm gonna master the powers MUCH faster than him, and then we punch it out"

marble void
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Yeah idk

flint crypt
glossy oak
flint crypt
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Im just in a silly goofy mood

charred nexus
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goddamn this director fuckin sucks lmao

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he's trying to do the "i'm playing both sides so i always come out on top" thing and losing on both every time

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"The finale is a cliffhanger or a resolution"

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great answer there bud, A+

glossy oak
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I see the finale as dog shit

toxic ingot
#

So those guys Fury and Olivia Coleman killed were just active members of the Secret Service

jovial raptor
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Did they kill them though? I recall it looking like non-lethal tranqs.

marble void
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They knocked them out

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Only one that died was skrull Rhodey

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So technically they could be skrulls

glossy oak
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Fury tranquilized them

distant vortex
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Yeah he had the tranq if you watch

toxic ingot
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I guess I was too riveted by the action and drama

distant vortex
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Maybe you need to get your eyes checked

marble void
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Maybe you were confused why the president was being moved by his military attaché? And there was no secret service guy in charge

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Among many other problems with than scene

charred nexus
marble void
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Idk what Rhodey was to the president

jovial raptor
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Special advisor it seems

charred nexus
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fuckin crazy how they didn't even bother to really match that makeup on fury in this

glossy oak
charred nexus
#

didn't people legitimately have that take

glossy oak
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Yes.

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Because of how it showed how he lost his eye

distant vortex
jovial raptor
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It's that time of the year

flint crypt
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I just went to the stupid eye doctor and had to get stupid glasses and my stupid ass picked oakleys and now i look stupid

#

That experience was still better than any of secret invasion

charred nexus
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ride or die ray-bans

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except i currently have these shitty fuckin wire frame thing from zenni

flint crypt
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I go through a period every couple years where i decide i should wear glasses for two weeks, then i lose them and then i stop until its time for my next appointment

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Last pair was ray bans

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I wish i just got them again they made me look cool

winged briar
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Ray-Ban usually but Nike has a real nice pair #marvel-archive-shades (gotta keep on topic)

flint crypt
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I need some secret invasion ray bans

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They could have like….idk…rhodey on them or something

jovial raptor
charred nexus
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i get why the focus is on Rhodey but it's very funny that i've seen not a single person asking how long Ross was a skrull

shut marsh
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right? suddenly he has an out for being kidnapped by wakanda cause it was a skrull instead Jessie

glossy oak
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Wow

glossy oak
distant vortex
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wack

rich prairie
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It’s not even a horrible idea

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Just do it in a movie

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Where you actually have the budget

distant vortex
#

peak cinema

rich prairie
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So dumb

#

Funny asf too because there’s like 3 dudes who have the same powers as drax but stronger

flint crypt
#

Does Drax even have powers

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I thought he was just strong

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Like hes just a muscular alien

distant vortex
#

Was hulk DNA in it?? Doesn’t that fuck people up

charred nexus
#

Clearly Hulk DNA in a cocktail mix is fine, but Hulk blood will fuck you up

toxic ingot
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She used Hulk Hands to punch him at the very start of the fight.

winged briar
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but she hulk show told me that was bad, which is it Marvel?!?

glossy oak
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Did you even watch the SHOW

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Wait if she’s immune to radiation shouldn’t the hulk power just be nullified

distant vortex
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This show gets worse the more I think about it

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Just need to stop

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Putting the hulk dna in it is really bad

shut marsh
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lol stop thinking about it

distant vortex
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Thank you Neko lol

glossy oak
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That’s not how Haterbog works

flint crypt
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We have all put more thought into this than anyone at Marvel

glossy oak
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Hire fans

toxic ingot
flint crypt
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Shit at least hire people who have actually seen the previous movies and shows

toxic ingot
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They tried to activate it with gamma rays instead of vita rays and the rest is history

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(It won't)

distant vortex
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Like hulk blood has been a plot point in multiple things lol

glossy oak
flint crypt
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I like how half the time filmmakers are all, We wont do marvel because Disney controls the whole process, and then all the people who actually make the projects are always like, yeah so Feige just let me do whatever as long as we had a three second cameo

toxic ingot
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Maybe if we knew either of the characters for more than half a show it would have had more impact

distant vortex
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Look what they did with the characters we do know

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Fridged them

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I like talos!!!

glossy oak
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He’s barely had any hits with D+

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I LOVE TALOS

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Actually his death on Twitter was what made me want to watch the show

toxic ingot
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Yeah Talos is great

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He was also the only Skrull who mattered

glossy oak
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And then Maria Hill died and I was like “Well nvm”

toxic ingot
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So I guess now the Skrulls are accurate to their comic book counterparts in that they're all interchangeable

shut marsh
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!who talos? Jessie

sick mantleBOT
glossy oak
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Bye Neko

charred nexus
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But they decided to make a very bad show instead

void loom
flint crypt
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I suppose you could somehow argue that the governments or whatever covered it up, but didn’t whatever big dudes name was also appear on earth for a minute to grab them or something? Like did nobody talk about the giant robot alien that popped up?

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You cant remotely hide that lol

winged briar
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you can cover that up lol, every plane flying would see it

flint crypt
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Make the planes fly around or something idk

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im thinking of how the MCU is gonna try and justify not mentioning this

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And i really think the answers gonna be as shitty as, we diverted planes and boats

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how tf did nobody ever mention this

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charred nexus
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Minor spoilers; it’s gonna be relevant in cap 4

marble void
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I mean that’s localized

charred nexus
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If leaks are correct, which they usually are

marble void
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I guess the enternal is small then?

flint crypt
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We see him outside earth and he’s noticeably bigger, theres no way half the world didnt see that shit

winged briar
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Skrulls did it

flint crypt
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And even if its localized, arent they in like, London?

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Im not gonna pretend ive been to London, but I assume they have phones with cameras ppRapLaugh

marble void
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I mean you can’t see shit more than like 1-2 miles id you are ground level

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And it went away right

flint crypt
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After like 20 seconds maybe, he pulls her and talks to her and is all, OH IM GONNA BE BACK AND JUDGE YALL

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Speaking of shit thatll never be followed up on, whens harry styles coming backppRapLaugh

marble void
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I mean I generally agree with you

flint crypt
charred nexus
flint crypt
flint crypt
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Maybe both get shot to write them out or something idk

charred nexus
flint crypt
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Every mcu movie or show i watch i just wait for Patton Oswalts character to start telling some joke offscreen just for the camera to pan to him and be some major reveal even though everyone forgot who he was

flint crypt
charred nexus
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Oh

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I might be mixing up leaks

rich prairie
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like what do people want

marble void
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I want some news anchor in the background talking about it at the very least

rich prairie
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Nick Fury to say some shit like “the big dude coming out of the ocean was crazy”

marble void
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Or like a briefing that gets interrupted

flint crypt
marble void
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There’s a lotta ways to do it that don’t impact the story they want to tell

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But also show that it’s happening in the same world

rich prairie
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I mean they’re gonna resolve the story eventually

flint crypt
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Theyve set up like a dozen things that I genuinely dont think theyll ever get around to making though

rich prairie
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I just find the namedrop stuff very corny if it’s not in like she hulk or something where it makes sense

marble void
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Every time they mention the battle of New York does it bother you lol

flint crypt
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Id rather they make a follow up to the existing stories than make an entirely new one that goes nowhere

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I dont want some fanservicey nod that the eternals happened, i want an actual follow up

rich prairie
flint crypt
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If fury just casually mentioned “hey theres some big dude in the ocean lol” id be just as upset

toxic ingot
toxic ingot
grand lintel
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didnt even realize gravik has abomination ear lol

glossy oak
marble void
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“Don’t matter got paid”

errant ice
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“Fuck you got my money”

charred nexus
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the editors of the making of for this have their work cut out

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if they even do one lmao

void loom
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Whenever you leave something out, it’s going to feel bad/like a miss

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In a way it’s the Superman/Captain Marvel problem at scale. How do you appropriately develop threats when there are heroes out there who can kind of One Punch Man them into oblivion