Mandalorian

[weary olive]

Id watch that scene again

But not worth the whole show just for that lol

I watched mando season 1 last year and it still bangs

[crystal kiln]

just didn’t care at all. There were no stakes, characters emotional arcs were bad so that didn’t even impact it. And I thought the duel itself was pretty basic too tbh

[weary olive]

Fair

I wish Star Wars hired good stunt choreographers

[crystal cliff]

I mean, they should not have rushed Kenobi and given it a bigger budget and held off until it had a solid story behind it.

[weary olive]

Should’ve been a movie

[plain pier]

I feel most of the shows are just trying up loose ends at points here and there

[crystal kiln]

It’s really funny how mando s1 basically has the same amount of “filler” as this season yet it actually works because Din is evolving and growing as a character during the filler

[crystal kiln]

Kenobi having a visibly lower budget than andor is probably the funniest thing ever I think

[crystal cliff]

I mean they might have had the same budget but more of it went to the actors

I think is the issue

[crystal kiln]

yeah I’m pretty sure that’s what happened

Although like

[crystal cliff]

I'm sorry, but you basically only get to make Kenobi once and apologists aside, they screwed the pooch.

[weary olive]

Agreed

[crystal kiln]

the biggest actor was ewan right?

[weary olive]

The boba budget is also hilarious for what it came out to

Yeah ewan

I mean ewan still isn’t that expensive

[crystal cliff]

I mean he's on record of saying he'd never go back to star wars.

Conveniently after a divorce, he did.

[crystal kiln]

I forgot Liam Neeson was in it too lmao

[weary olive]

He seemed to really like celebration

[crystal kiln]

what a nothing cameo

[crystal cliff]

I love you oats but he is an actor

[weary olive]

I mean sure

[crystal cliff]

He's not old enough to reach Hugh Grants level of, I don't fucking care about anything

[weary olive]

But Harrison ford is also an actor

[crystal cliff]

Yeah but Harrison Ford has a persona and Ewan doesn't

Ewan's persona is much more into the charismatic "Oh, hello there" type guy

It would be bad for his brand if he was anything, but that at Celebration

idk I don't read too much into how celebrities are at conventions in general

[weary olive]

I mean article in 2016

Yeah, I’d be happy to’, because I think there’s a film between Episode III and Episode IV, which is when Alec Guinness is in the desert.”

[crystal kiln]

He’s obv doing it for the check, but I think he probably enjoys being in the franchise

[weary olive]

I don’t really understand the fanaticism about it.”

[crystal kiln]

Was the trank movie kenobi?

Or was he supposed to be doing boba

[crystal cliff]

I think he enjoys it now that like, the prequels are cool again.

[weary olive]

The inital vicious reaction to the prequels really turned him off

[crystal cliff]

Originally Kenobi was a movie script but IDK who was doing it

[weary olive]

From casually scrolling headlines

[crystal cliff]

Well the fans will turn on him again 😂

This is the way

[weary olive]

Ironically, this was actually the original plan, as at first a standalone Kenobi film was in development with director Stephen Daldry.

[crystal kiln]

Ok yeah trank was boba but kenobi was supposed to be a movie around 2017ish

[weary olive]

Unlucky tbh

[crystal kiln]

solo being a failure is one of the reasons why kenobi sucks

[crystal cliff]

That's true

[crystal kiln]

I wish they’d just do Disney+ Star Wars movies atp

[weary olive]

Diluting the franchise

[crystal kiln]

Like kenobi was only around 4 hours anyway

[weary olive]

Yeah I’m not sure what their obsession is with tv series

[crystal cliff]

They need to make D+ viable but it's like, putting out half baked shows ain't it.

[weary olive]

Currently it’s basically marvel, Star Wars and Disney animation platform lol

[proven hedge]

That’s why I think simply giving it more time could have made it great

Yeah honestly the first order stuff from this season should have been a spinoff

Literally would have fit perfectly with the Rangers show

[crystal cliff]

I dunno if someone came out and said it or it's just speculation, but it's been brought up repeatedly that a lot of these plot beats this season are from the cancelled shows.

[crystal kiln]

The Pershing episode is like clearly just a rangers episode

[pure lotus]

The Pershing episode would honestly have worked as a stand-alone if they did Star Wars Special Presentations like Werewolf by Night

Like it didn’t need an hour to show us, duh the person who worked for Gideon is still working for Gideon

[weary olive]

It would’ve actually been pretty cool

[solar copper]

That’s actually not a bad idea.

[primal flume]

Mando has a lot of problems, but pacing is a huge one that I dont think is talked about enough. The shows want to be a slow burn but they rush through stuff at the same time.

[solar copper]

Yes but I think it’s always been that way, people are just noticing it more this season.

[weary olive]

Anecdotally through a second party source, the most recent mando episode was the best one yet

Do with that information what you want

[gentle spear]

if you read the internet people seem to think its great, i've concluded that while it might be 'good (for) star wars' it's not 'good tv'

but most people got drawn in with season 1, and we 've now devolved far from the original stuff that made it as popular as it was

like, i can understand seeing people from clone wars and that being 'member berries but it feels like they've just stitched together people's wishlist instead of having a coherent plan, which feels VERY sequel territory

[formal cape]

I won’t accept sequel slander in my #1079674100756267069

[weary olive]

So he’s saying he does nothing?

[mint quest]

This thread is opt-in, remember. We have to accept all hate.

[crystal cliff]

You think Usc is being serious

[formal cape]

I operate in one gear, and that’s dead seriousness

[proven hedge]

I would actually love special presentations from Star Wars

Would be a great opportunity to tell shorter stories that stay separate from the main characters

Also to give new directors a chance to take the universe in a different direction, kind of like Werewolf By Night, which turned out amazing

[shrewd shell]

too bad only like 15 people watched Werewolf By Night

[burnt steppe]

isn’t that kinda what Tales of the Jedi is?

[earnest smelt]

My brother in Christ you just invented Tales of the Jedi

[tough sigil]

https://twitter.com/darksaberlight/status/1646892783523831808?s=46&t=3XXe_cqn-FHydyxAznfDiw

Duchess of Darksaber Light (at SWCE!) (@DarksaberLight)

Loooong thread: Every reason why the Armorer is the spy who betrays Bo-Katan, Din Djaran, and even her own people in #TheMandalorian.

Gideon knows the Mandos are planning to retake their planet, which the Armorer suggested they do, even though they'd just been given a new home.

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Twitter · Apr 14, 2023, 3:06 PM

This is a good thread

[weary olive]

I hope it doesn’t happen

[shrewd shell]

early in the season my friend suggested the Armorer knew about the depth of the waters that Din needed to be in, so sending them to "baptize" themselves in the mines was basically a death sentence

I think that idea could still come around with the Armorer being a spy, but instead of a weird religious reason, she just wants Din to get killed or captured by Gideon

[carmine flower]

Even if she becomes the spy, she'll be my girl

[earnest smelt]

We support women’s wrongs

[carmine flower]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-mandalorian-the-armorer-secrecy-survival-gif-15639743

[weary olive]

I would rather see her get mad and fight

[past yew]

It doesn't seem like the armorer would do so much for her cult only to betray them at the end

Why would she flank the pirates when they brought out the e web

I still think that "the spies" is referring to the story of the 12 spies and the imperial lady that talked to prove droid

Because the water world mandos followed everyone else into the super soldier ambush (and one of them got killed) and axe doesn't seem too into it

I wouldn't mind being surprised tho

[carmine flower]

Do we know runtime of next week?

oof

Feels like a lot to wrap up

ahh, lets hope for ch23 runtime then

[weary olive]

39 minutes would be hilariously bad lol

[past yew]

Here's to hoping that the finale is 22 minutes with commerical breaks to make it a 30 minute program 🙏🙏🙏

[pure lotus]

okay it's a little on the nose now https://twitter.com/DarksaberLight/status/1646909736976039937

Duchess of Darksaber Light (at SWCE!) (@DarksaberLight)

Also, at the risk of mixing religious imagery, I'll point out that there are 13 scouts (not counting Grogu), which means that the dinner they have is the equivalent of the Last Supper, with Bo as the Christ figure in the center of the 12 disciples, including Judas.

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with the Armorer sitting to the right in the Judas seat.

[foggy tide]

filoni moment

[pure lotus]

i can't wait for the Armorer theory to be 100% correct and cause Mando s4 to become literal steaming garbage for the sake of subverting expectations

coughWestworldcough

[weary olive]

I do have an issue with Gideon though

Is he done with grogu?

Why did he even cultivate the armorer?

Why didn’t the armorer let the bounty hunters get mando and tell the covert to chill

[burnt steppe]

this one has me p convinced https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR3XKYJU/

[past yew]

Maybe it was Hans all along

Or dare I say john silver

[shrewd shell]

https://twitter.com/themandalorian/status/1647298744592011266?s=20

The Mandalorian (@themandalorian)

Only one episode left.

The season finale of #TheMandalorian starts streaming Wednesday on @DisneyPlus.

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damn all the replies and qts

[burnt steppe]

*BITCHES

[shrewd shell]

i mean tbf calling yourself the "best star wars thing yet" is just begging for people to call you out

[crystal cliff]

It’s interesting to me how many of the comments are about feeling like the season just got started

[shrewd shell]

to me it feels like the season went by so fast and I think its cause the first 5 episodes were kinda on the same 2 planets the entire time (nevarro and mandalorian hide out planet)

there were a few other planets like the coruscant episode but in like we kept returning to those 2

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/smbkshkt04/status/1647004363100139520?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[slate crow]

I kind of preferred being on a few locations/planets. Felt less like the Smallville freak of the week/mission of the week format that they had in S1-2.

[tough sigil]

There’s apparently a rumor going around that ||the reason they showed the mind wiping is that Din is going to have his mind wiped and forget Grogu|| and if that happens I will not be able to handle it.

[gentle spear]

|| if that gives us an unmasked evil Pedro storyline...I'd be okay with it ||

[primal flume]

thats a wild rumor

[tough sigil]

RIGHT

[solar copper]

There’s no way that’s true, it would just about destroy the show

[tough sigil]

How so?

It would make an interesting twist leading into the next season

[solar copper]

||I feel like the Grogu/Din story line is the one most people are attached to the most, it’ll just piss a lot of people off if they decide that after having dedicated very little time to it this season go ahead and mind wipe Din.||

Thats my thought process at least.

[slow fiber]

The only Grogu moments I can really remember are him flying and when they turned him into Krang

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-yes-mandalorian-gif-686610576031645023

[formal cape]

I am caught up

[weary olive]

Good timing to be let down by the finale

[formal cape]

And finally, we got to see Hux’s dad in live action

And snokes guards!

[burnt steppe]

[formal cape]

If Mando is gonna be a gazillion references, and least now it’s referencing the stuff I like

[crystal cliff]

You love Hux's dad?

[earnest smelt]

I wanna see a teen snap wexley

I love hux’s dad

[weary olive]

I love how usc likes the parts that generally most people don’t like

[earnest smelt]

Gimme all the sequel haters tears

[weary olive]

I’m just scared the armorer will betray

[earnest smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrating-sarah-hyland-cosmopolitan-drinking-water-drinking-gif-17749953

[burnt steppe]

idk man, seems like you’re scared/mad about a whole lot more than that

[crystal cliff]

Usc is just trolling

[slow fiber]

Or is he?

[foggy tide]

REAL

[earnest smelt]

Getting this tattooed on my thigh

[crystal cliff]

I kinda don't love that Hux's dad looked like a scrawny ass alcoholic if I'm being honest. The way I pictured him based off his book description was much more, military built buzzcut man

[formal cape]

I genuinely was stoked to see my boy Brendol Hux

[crystal cliff]

Right next to your boy Adolf

[earnest smelt]

He’ll fill out in 30 years dw

[weary olive]

Specifically for the finale being disappointing for me

[crystal cliff]

I just can't picture that man fighting off raiders and skinwolves w/ Phasma, you know

[weary olive]

Same for with the description of pelleaon

[earnest smelt]

I mean the whole season has been disappointing to you soooo

[crystal cliff]

Lmao woah I think y'all are confusing Oats with me

[weary olive]

I mean I like grogu in the ig88

[crystal cliff]

He hasn't been nearly as low on this season as me

[weary olive]

And the Bo arc

I’m just not a fan of the lizzo episode

I think that’s my major gripe

[crystal cliff]

Conversely, I liked that episode a lot lol

[formal cape]

This one was fun, but kinda a big oof that I had to pause the show for 5 minutes to explain the wtf the shadow council was talking about to my GF

[fading raptor]

Didn't she know that she was supposed to have consumed all of Star Wars up until this point before watching this week's episode?

[crystal cliff]

Just watch 42 episodes of clone wars, ez

[earnest smelt]

I think having my bf watch NGE helped him understand the shadow collective is like SEELE

He hasn’t been asking that many questions honestly

His mom dropped the show after episode 2 of season 3 though

[formal cape]

I haven’t bothered asking if my parents are watching, it’s easier for us all if they think it just ended at season 2

[crystal cliff]

Do you think if your parents were watching it they would be asking you confusing questions?

[formal cape]

Yes, but it would also make it so my mom would never watch Star Wars again

[crystal cliff]

And yeah, like, a few thanksgivings ago I stayed with a friend and his parents and we all watched the first four episodes of S1 or whatever had aired. They loved it. Could not imagine showing them the show as it currently is.

[formal cape]

She just recently figured out the episodes being released in the wrong order

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/scentralized/status/1648003329539096577?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[slow fiber]

How did she process Natalie Portman coming before young Harrison Ford?

[shrewd shell]

Thats my current guess, I don't think these are Palpatine/snoke

[formal cape]

She legit is so confused about Natalie Portman and Carrie Fisher

[formal cape]

Yeah I think they explicitly called out that he wasn’t working on Snoke/Palpatine with Hux

[gentle spear]

I think he's obviously been working on it in secret. But (i think) he believes in the military might ala Tarkin rather than the Force

[crystal cliff]

less than 24 hours and we'll know

[proven hedge]

If that happens I will be screaming and balling my eyes out

[twilit pine]

@crystal cliff you ready to be disappointed for the finale?

[crystal cliff]

Absolutely, I'm hype

Everyone will be more disappointed than I am cuz I have no expectations at this point

[twilit pine]

https://tenor.com/view/ayyy-michael-scott-the-office-jim-halpert-steve-carell-gif-17413848

[weary olive]

Can’t wait to see what grogu does this time

[gentle spear]

Grogu gonna form the Megazord and then reveal himself as the secret sith

[burnt steppe]

lol none of them show in embed

[past yew]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is a chance that mandalore does not actually have any transmission disruption

It could be gideons facility that is blocking signals

Since he was able to speak with the shadow wizard council

[pure lotus]

yeah i think pretty much everything the wider galaxy knows/thinks about Mandalore isn't true

it's all gideon

[fading raptor]

It was glassed though

[shrewd shell]

https://twitter.com/Joe_Rohde/status/1648470650087145477?s=20

Joe Rohde (@Joe_Rohde)

I still haven’t gotten one. I want to be a character named Taivo Renbac whose earring is really a tiny droid that does all the thinking.

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 11:36 PM

idk if I can also post this in #stаr-wаrs

[slow fiber]

Doesn’t seem to be Mando specific (or anything spoilered)

Ohhh. Nevermind. The original tweet is.

[earnest smelt]

Are we ready besties

[plain pier]

I'm sorta ready for the madness

[pure lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-batman-here-we-go-gif-3430376

41m listed

So like, 35m actual time probably

[light shale]

https://tenor.com/bPFvx.gif

[pure lotus]

No no no

Oh god please don’t let that title mean what I think it is

I swear to god if this is ||the return of Thrawn||

[earnest smelt]

||Moff Vaderon||

Okay this episode slaps

[pure lotus]

It is ||gideon clones, not snokes||

[earnest smelt]

This shit is so fucking cool

[pure lotus]

It’s neat but literally nothing is being given any time to sit

Mando be like

[earnest smelt]

||DIN GROGU||

[crystal kiln]

The action and music was good

But uh

the writing choices they made here are some of the worst ones they could possibly make

[pure lotus]

I see you filoni

You can’t hide

[earnest smelt]

LMAO

Trapper wolf cameo

[pure lotus]

Man they really did not know what tone they wanted this season to have

No credits scene

[earnest smelt]

So there was no spy

[crystal kiln]

Is this the last season

Genuinely what was that ending

[pure lotus]

They probably saw all the shit last week about the armorer and thought “damn we should’ve done that”

[twilit pine]

this isnt the last season

dave said it will go on forever

whenever they feel like to stop

[pure lotus]

i wouldn't expect a season 4 until like, 2025/26 though

[crystal kiln]

ok maybe they should stop now

Unless they can actually get Pedro back

[pure lotus]

they left it at a point where Mando's main quest is "done" and he can show up as a side character in anything

[earnest smelt]

I need a Thomas kinkade print of this

[crystal kiln]

It’s just really weird that he wasn’t in the season at all

yeah that’s true

[pure lotus]

it's like 3 days of ADR work for Pedro to do an entire season, there's no way he stays away

[earnest smelt]

Okay so wishlist for season 4.
Uncle Cobb Vanth moves into Din’s apartment

End of wishlist

[pure lotus]

seriously though, the last 5 minutes felt like the most "cashing in sidequests" sequence it's ever had

he got the player housing and family DLC from skyrim

[twilit pine]

all those rumors werent true

https://tenor.com/view/pair-of-kings-lies-lie-gif-15300572

[pure lotus]

things that aged poorly

[twilit pine]

https://tenor.com/view/mid-its-mid-sam-and-max-sam-max-gif-26516894

[crystal kiln]

Remember when they teased the mythosaur

just for it to open its eyes at the end

Favreau’s genius is truly unmatched

[earnest smelt]

I was half paying attention to the scene where din talks to the armorer and thought he was gonna adopt Ragnar

[twilit pine]

[earnest smelt]

I didn’t see him out grogu down

[pure lotus]

man

[earnest smelt]

[pure lotus]

what a fall to go from s2 ending causing twitter trending to be nothing but "LUKE" for 2 days to this

was pedro ever even in the suit this season

[earnest smelt]

My ONLY gripe with this season was they fridged Cobb vanth

[twilit pine]

rip dark saber

[crystal kiln]

I can guarantee he wasn’t on set at all lol

Why is tbobf a better follow up to season 2 than this

[pure lotus]

because boba is the actual follow up to season 2

[crystal kiln]

but like

[earnest smelt]

Cause this is a follow up to book of boba fett

[crystal kiln]

How did that get the ahsoka cameo

over this

[pure lotus]

i still wholeheartedly believe Book of Boba was just the cancelled Boba movie split into 4 episodes and also half a season of Mando shoved together

[carmine flower]

I was so hoping for Cobb

[twilit pine]

he got shot

hes still healing

[earnest smelt]

He’s swimming in bacta

So season 4 is gonna be Mando and Grogu doing bounty missions. Now we’re back to the shows MO

[pure lotus]

honestly, yeah

[twilit pine]

safe episode

nothing beats season 2 finale

[pure lotus]

we know the shadow council is around now, ahsoka will be dealing with thrawn

let mando be mando

do monster of the week stories

[carmine flower]

https://tenor.com/view/jawas-egg-the-mandalorian-sooga-gif-15777853

[pure lotus]

if i had a nickel for every time a character played by Giancarlo Esposito dies in a giant explosion, i'd have two nickels

[carmine flower]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

[past yew]

Damn no post credits?

[earnest smelt]

So did Gideon like put his body in a mech suit or

Was he just a head in there

[twilit pine]

overall mid, finale safe.

lets see what happens next

tune in like 2 years

[steel stag]

hes in the dark trooper suit

[twilit pine]

^

he combined the robot and the beskar into one

[earnest smelt]

Yeah which is a droid right?

[twilit pine]

yeah

the power of the robot and the armor of the beskar

[slate crow]

Well, I'm not crying?

Was the part we were supposed to be crying over ||the darksaber? ||

And with no Boba or Cobb Vanth, does that mean a BoBF season 2? Ugh...

One of the directors said we would be crying

[past yew]

Yeah I'm surprised they didn't ||rope boba in||

[slate crow]

Or maybe some writer?

[past yew]

Maybe they wrote ||grogu's death and filoni rejected it without telling them||

[slate crow]

||https://sffgazette.com/sci_fi/star-wars/the-mandalorian-actor-says-season-3-finale-might-just-hurt-too-a5067#gs.v61s6z||

"would hurt too much" is what they were saying.

[earnest smelt]

I mean I didn’t like din getting his shit kicked in but that wasn’t cry worthy

[slate crow]

Maybe they filmed different endings

[earnest smelt]

Just tense action

[crystal kiln]

They probably mean the scenes where it seems like grogu is gonna die

Well it’s obvious he won’t but

[slate crow]

What are the chances that the Moff Gideon we saw, was actually just a clone? 😂

[crystal kiln]

That’s probably what they’re referring to

[earnest smelt]

Non-zero

[slate crow]

Now there's no more main mission

All side quests

Until thrawn

And Asoka comes asking for help

[shrewd shell]

honestly I dont need a s4, I think if the show ended here I'd be fine, good conclusion to the main characters

I think bringing in mando or grogu for future appearances in other stories is fine but I feel like they've reached their conclusion as characters

[pure lotus]

it's extremely funny that this is already a common opinion a week and a half after they announced the movie that's like 6 years away

[past yew]

I wonder if there is room for mando to discover the first order. Especially if it jumps to after ahsoka

[fading raptor]

So Gideon just made a beskar power suit. Okay then

[past yew]

Hydrolic fingers

[shrewd shell]

for a second I thought that was a clone of him and he died when they tried to rescue him

kinda wish they did do something with the clones other than just kill them before they get a chance to do anything

[past yew]

Tbh i wouldn't be surprised if ||he flew away while baby yoda was shielding them from the fire||

There was no ||charred suit or anything||

[shrewd shell]

nah cause I feel like they would 100% check since he was right next to them

[pure lotus]

clone jumpscare

[fading raptor]

It was definitely framed as him burning a live. Beskar suits aren’t fully encapsulating

[pure lotus]

that's literally all it was for lol

[shrewd shell]

so I think my thoughts as of rn are I dont like some of the story directions/decisions for season 3, but I think the finale did a great job wrapping it up

like the finale is pretty good but I think the supporting season building it up was kinda weak

[carmine flower]

I imagine we’d get another season before the movie

[shrewd shell]

I can see that, but why other than to set up the film? It took 3 seasons to complete this one main thread. Season 4's main story is gonna have to finish before it can really get started with the current pace

[slate crow]

I'm just glad they didn't put him back to the Lizzo planet

[shrewd shell]

im surprised hes never gone back to the sanctuary planet from s1 tbh

but I guess nevarro works cause now its a much more friendly planet

[slate crow]

Oh, and what was with Din being saved not even 5 minutes into the episode

It looked perilous for Din being captured and brought somewhere, then he just escapes with Grogu...

[shrewd shell]

huh yeah what was with that

any explanation why Gideon had him captured instead of just killed since he was gonna kill them all anyways?

[slate crow]

Tbh, it would have been more impactful if Grogu lost an arm or something

Make it look like he could be done for, but it's just his arm and he's able to recover and goes on to live with one arm

Kanan was blind, make Grogu with one arm handicap

[slate crow]

Hmm, they could have done something kinda controversial too. Imagine if as the Preatorian guard sliced through Grogu's arm, he let out force lightning in slowmo. He gives into anger/hate, using the dark side of the force and kills all three Preatorian guards with force lightning. Din just thinks, cool, done Jedi powers he learned from Luke, but we know it's through tapping into the dark side.

[bronze void]

So… who were “the spies”?

I do like Gideon going “give me the Dark Saber”, then crushes it fifteen seconds later.

[slate crow]

The 12 Mandalorian that went to Mandalore

[bronze void]

12 Angry Men Mandalorians.

Mendalorians. Nailed it.

[slate crow]

I almost imagine with Grogu tapping into the dark side, it could have been a cool/weird nod to that old movie with Macaulay Culkin, The Good Son. Din just thinks he's exhibiting cool new force powers, but he's really riding the line between good Jedi and the dark side without him knowing. OR they could have tied it to Darth Maul, having some old Sith artifact that was in Moff Gideon's base of Maul's. Grogu takes the artifact, thinking it's a cool shiny object, not knowing that it makes him possessed/influenced by the spirit of Maul.

S4 and onward, you could make it where you don't know if Grogu is going to be a light side or dark side Jedi, and keeps getting conflicted by Maul's influence.

Maybe too much like the internal conflict with Ben Solo/Kylo...

[slow fiber]

You're assuming he died.

[plain pier]

I'm wondering if after 1000 years since the darksaber is destroyed, if it's repairable

[slow fiber]

Or Season 4: THE DEAD SPEAK

[broken pendant]

I lose my new vacuum's manual after two weeks.
Can you imagine finding that one?

[slate crow]

"Somehow Moff Gideon has returned"

(well, duh, the one in the Beskar suit was a clone)

[bronze void]

Decoy snail Moff Gideon.

[solar copper]

I liked the episode on the whole but was expecting the Mythasoar to come into the fight somehow. That is clearly set up for S4 which is going to be some of that stuff with Mando and Grogu adventures which should make people who were not a fan of this season happy.

I liked the episode overall though personally.

[crystal kiln]

It definitely needed another like 10 minutes at least

We don’t even really get a conclusion to Bo and Din’s relationship he just kinda leaves

[tough sigil]

I mean what was their to resolve? He was devoted to helping her restore mandalore which they did

[broken pendant]

She doesn't even shake Grogu's hand goodbye.

Travesty.

[tough sigil]

I don’t think there was ever going to be anything romantic between them

[broken pendant]

Bo and Grogu?

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[solar copper]

Honestly I completely disagree, it felt very good length

[crystal kiln]

Nah I don’t mean romantic it’s just kinda weird that he leaves without a word really

[solar copper]

I will say some of the production design and effects looked more off than I would have liked.

But minor issue all in all for me.

[crystal kiln]

I do think they probably could’ve cut out r5’s droid antics

[solar copper]

The R5 effects looked particularly bad I think.

[tough sigil]

Does it? The armorer says it’s now his responsibility to take grogu around the worlds and train him

[earnest smelt]

Just a funny thought but grogu and bo are closer in age to din and bo

[solar copper]

Are they? How old is Bo supposed to be?

[tough sigil]

Bo was young in clone wars

[crystal cliff]

They're both in their 50s - true romance

[tough sigil]

People are estimating Bo is in her late 40s early 50s in the Mandalorian

[weary olive]

Finale was fun no complaints

30 mins of straight action

No mythosaur sad days

[proven hedge]

Honestly that was a very good finale

[clever sundial]

Great job making magic @proven hedge! Mickey is promoting you to level 7 !

[proven hedge]

Also based upon the ending I think the 4th season will return to more 1st and 2nd season style episodes

Which is what I wanted but honestly expected it to continue down the first order setup path a bit more. Happy that isn’t how they set up S4 though because I’d love if we got another season of basically just missions

[past yew]

Hi 🙂

[fading raptor]

They’ll be more post empire shit in season 4. Will we get a spin off of the rebuilding of Mandalore now though?

[proven hedge]

God I hope so

I’m sure there’ll be post empire stuff because Mando will be contracted to take care of imperial remnants but probably not quite as much of a focus

[past yew]

I think it's going to be the main focus for at least the first 3rd of the season

They're probably going to try to return to form with mando as a hunter

[weary olive]

I doubt there’s anything set in stone for s4

Probably waiting for ahsoka show and reactions

[past yew]

True that should be considered too

[bronze void]

This is the way.

[slate crow]

because Grogu saved both Din and Bo, would he be considered the owner of the Darksaber (even though it's broken)? And it looks like he has a connection to the Mythosaur in the water? Will Grogu be the Mandalorian leader in the future?

[earnest smelt]

He’s gonna be the first Jedi mandalorian since Tarre Vizsla

[tough sigil]

https://twitter.com/clonehumor/status/1648600474877145088?s=46&t=3XXe_cqn-FHydyxAznfDiw

Lalo #MoffGideonSweep (@clonehumor)

#TheMandalorian spoilers

Moff Gideon had a mustache in the first 2 seasons. He didn't have a mustache in s3. The Gideon clones also didn't have mustaches which means the Gideon we saw walking around was actually a clone.

Therefore, the real Moff Gideon is still alive❗️

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[weary olive]

You say this like Disney know wtf they are doing past their next show

Not you cj, just people in general speculating

[tough sigil]

[slate crow]

I actually had that same thought with the moustache. 😛

that clones' eye opening jump scare was freaky

[plain pier]

I should've noticed that.. this is palpatine all over again

[slate crow]

Gideon is also wearing different clothes/armor at the beginning of Ep7 vs the end of Ep7.

I mean, albeit, he's wearing more beskar armor, or the full suit, but perhaps it's just a different clone wearing the full beskar.

I'm trying to see if they ever say in the sub-titles it's Moff Gideon. It's only said: "Dark Trooper"

even after that scene after where Bo and others talk, and have their names shown, it doesn't show any name for Moff Gideon...

also, in a rewatch of the end of Ep7, Grogu clearly goes through the whole with the Mandalorians... how does it end up saving Din?

[shrewd shell]

THATS WHY HE LOOKED OFF, I was like theres something missing from Moff and its the damn mustache lmaoooo

[slate crow]

Ep8. They do use Moff Gideon for the subtitles... boo.

[shrewd shell]

uhhhh idk the force

[bronze void]

Of course Moff Gideon is still alive. Like he’d put himself in harm’s way with some cheap knock off armor on? That’s what the clones are for.

[slate crow]

okay, on second watch of Ep 8, Moff Gideon grabs Bo-Katan's hand when she swings the Darksaber at him, and crushes the darksaber to break it while having his hands around her hand....

so her hand should be mangled/broken too

lol, disney+ won't let me screenshot, ugh.

[shrewd shell]

Beskar infused glove

[slate crow]

She is holding her hand here like it broke.

[shrewd shell]

https://tenor.com/view/with-the-force-luke-skywalker-brush-off-star-wars-mark-hamill-gif-16160573

[slate crow]

then proceeds to use her left hand for her blaster

hrm, she grabs the flame from the Armorer with her left hand as well.

I'm wondering if they originally filmed it as if her right hand is crippled

but didn't really touch on/expand on it in the final version

[shrewd shell]

also interesting is the Mandalorian Fang vs TIE Interceptor lego set, but theres no real battle between them

[weary olive]

Probably cut

Not that Lego hasn’t made completely random stuff befor

[shrewd shell]

yeah i think a lot of it was cut because all we get of TIEs in this episode is them blowing up the capital ship and a few of them destroyed by Axe

Im assuming the other ships got the rest of them but its not shown

Also i just realized, what was the point of the Coruscant episode and the Imperial Lady

[steel stag]

nothing for this season

[shrewd shell]

yeah thats what im thinking

[steel stag]

literally a filler to setup in another season

[shrewd shell]

cause everything wouldve played out exactly the same without the imp lady

[steel stag]

yeah they played no significance except letting Gideon know they are coming

[shrewd shell]

like I dont mind that episode as a side step from the season, but I wouldve liked to seen her more involved somehow with the ending/season

[steel stag]

which could’ve still been left out as a spy source for him

[shrewd shell]

yeah the more I think about this season the more im asking questions (and not for good reason)

[past yew]

She doesn't take iron supplements, she takes beskar vitamins

[clever sundial]

Great job making magic @past yew! Mickey is promoting you to level 27 !

[shrewd shell]

Did i miss something tho, why did Gideon want Mando captured? When he couldve just killed him right then and there?

[bronze void]

Maybe he wanted to torture him a bit?

[past yew]

Gideon was angwy (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[shrewd shell]

hmm okay yeah i can see that, maybe im being a bit nitpicky on that one

[bronze void]

Moff Gideon seems like a theatrical, grand gesture kind of guy to me. He wants to inflict maximum damage in the most painful way and takes glee/satisfaction in crushing the opposition. He bathes in the hopelessness of others.

The guy probably fried ants with a magnifying glass as a kid.

[fading raptor]

Do we know if memories can be transferred to clones? Palpy just moved his force essence from clone to clone and the clone army was raised at an accelerated rate.

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/andreaispunk/status/1648778649582043136?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

THISS 1000x

[shrewd shell]

idk if we know yet, but maybe that mightve been accomplished by Gideon

they do have mind flayer tech

[tepid lake]

I think this is my biggest issue with Disney+ shows, and/or streaming in general really. Service-based series should not have filler content. It's lazy production/content strategy to shove an episode in that doesn't further the story when you aren't beholden to a 26-episode "season" like TV in the past.

[weary olive]

its a backdoor pilot for rangers

its not "filler"

[tepid lake]

It's unnecessary to the main story.

[shrewd shell]

not yet at least

[weary olive]

sure but its not put in there to pad out the 8 episode season lol

[shrewd shell]

thats kinda how I felt with the Gunslinger episode in season 1, but they came back to it in season 2 and BoBF

[weary olive]

unfortunately, the show isnt self contained anymore

i dont disagree that it may not be a pleasant experience, I just disgree that its filler/put in there to reach the episode count

[tepid lake]

To my next point!

Disney's content strategy for the last few years is worrying. MCU-ifying everything is so boring and leads to what they've been dropping on us: half-baked ideas for shows that have 2-3 too many episodes per season. All in the name of "world building!" or "synergy!" and the core product suffers because of it.

Put out a great season of Mando and trust that your creative team can put out a great season of Rangers

It's the Carl Weathers Got A Stew Going strategy 😂

[slate crow]

Grand Magistrate cooking show?

I can see it happening for a weird filler episode of S4

I mean, they brought in Lizzo and Jack Black...

[foggy tide]

This has certainly been a season of television.

I have no thoughts or emotions.

Actually I do have one emotion

Relief at the freedom of no longer having to dedicate 40 minutes every week to incredibly mediocre television because I like this franchise

[weary olive]

For now, ahsoka is coming

[foggy tide]

https://vxtwitter.com/tloumandalorian/status/1648713609189421056 this made me feel more than todays episode did

[tepid lake]

Is Mando suffering from a killer concept that didn’t have the runway everyone thought it might?

A Mandalorian Finds A Baby Yoda
Is a killer elevator pitch

But it’s now a vehicle for FiLOLni to make live action home videos of his animated series? I’m bitter 😦

[pure lotus]

everyone's always called mando Din but if the kid is now Din Grogu wouldn't that mean mando's name is actually Djarin

[weary olive]

correct

[foggy tide]

I never believed for a second that they were going to kill Din but I think it would have made for a more interesting finale

like yeah it'd be dumb

but there'd be something to talk about

like the action scenes were cool but they were completely devoid of any meaning for me

[pure lotus]

i like the idea that they killed off "Din Djarin, Hero and Would-Be Ruler of Mandalore" and just reset him to a bounty hunter

[shrewd shell]

yes, and I think thats just how Din Djarin's original family is, because other Mandos have a first, last name

[foggy tide]

I think you've put more thought into it than Jon Favreau did

[shrewd shell]

yeah it doesnt feel like there was any consequences for him having the Dark Saber. Like it was interesting seeing him as this reluctant leader, but Bo stops being pissed at him after 2 episodes and he gets an excuse to give it back

it feels like they just gave Din the dark saber because they thought it'd be cool and not cause they wanted to explore that with his character

[plain pier]

Can't wait to see if darksabers destruction gets referenced in ahsoka down the line.

[plain pier]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRTLNj7B/

[gentle spear]

that certainly was a season of filler

[pure lotus]

there's nothing that they're trying to get to, it's not filler lol

[gentle spear]

okay.... then ultimately boring? I don't know, they put so much stuff in to just have no point. also how the hell did grogu get to din

feels like they used this season to slightly build out the bridge between the originals and sequels and... just felt empty

[fading raptor]

It was fun watching the armorer fly around bashing beskar troopers with her forging tools

[gentle spear]

that is true, that combat was good to watch

[carmine flower]

Best combat this season!

Just glad my Armorer no spy

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-the-chilld-baby-yoda-star-wars-emily-swallow-gif-15919966

[solar copper]

They set up for a while now, at least since last season the re-taking of Mandalore, they did that. Now they continue onwards with the adventures of Din and Grogu.

[gentle spear]

Just glad my Armorer no spy

same, that would have felt oddly cheap

[weary olive]

Overall I hope we get a season 4

[foggy tide]

I like how there was just no spy after it was the only speculation the fans were able to have

[solar copper]

I think this season could have and maybe should have been two seasons ultimately, we covered a lot of ground really fast.

[tough sigil]

I just really wish din would take his helmet off around Grogu

When it’s just the two of them

[weary olive]

Pedro said you don’t pay me enough for that

[fading raptor]

Pedro is just a voice actor for the show now.

[pure lotus]

this season had a distinct lack of Bill Burr

[solar copper]

Good

[bronze void]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-scrubs-gif-5390751

[solar copper]

I am not a fan of the character sorry.

[twilit pine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-nerve-bill-burr-saturday-night-live-the-audacity-how-arrogant-gif-18837522

[tough sigil]

Is Mayfield okay?

[gentle spear]

I disagree, I'd rather them have done this arc in 3 episodes, and split the various storylines

[earnest smelt]

Hey does anyone want some emotional damage

[past yew]

I think they are trying too hard to retcon that the dead speak!

It depends on how hard they go on it with ahsoka tho

[tepid lake]

Someone brought up on Reddit that it’s weird/unrewarding how they went back to this well, since ||it’s the same “block the fire!” move from the end of season 1, but with a female lead swap||

Can’t say I disagree — didn’t have any real impact for me when it happened. Just an “oh”

[primal flume]

How long til the dark saber comes back

[primal flume]

No bell you see they need the dark saber. Otherwise who will lead them

[pure lotus]

david tennant bot in ahsoka will fix it

he's the lightsaber guy

[weary olive]

It got tossed in the hole? Then had a cruiser crash into it?

[pure lotus]

whenever the darksaber isn't on screen the audience should be asking "where's the darksaber? is it safe? is it alright?"

[primal flume]

Who is the current owner of the dark saber

Is it technically the ship or the hole

[crystal cliff]

I’ve watched

It’s aight. Better than last episode.

The praetorian entrance was litty

LONG LIVE DIN GROGU.

Also the armorer basically guilting him into adopting grogu lol

[weary olive]

Tbh I thought he was already adopted

[crystal cliff]

Freal right? He already daddy

I loved the r5 scene

[earnest smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-daddy-pascal-pedro-pascal-meme-daddy-im-your-daddy-gif-25522929

[foggy tide]

oh my god theres a dude in our club discord who legitimately thought this was real

"I love Chris Pratt, I waited in the edge of my seat the entire episode for grogu to say something like ‘frog’ or something at the end and never got it"

[crystal cliff]

Hahahahahahaahhaha omg 💀

I am begging them to give grogu separate pant legs

[formal cape]

You know what, if I’m gonna bitch about it being cameo shitshow setting up other stuff, I can’t complain too much for getting a self contained finale

[crystal cliff]

Yeah I mostly enjoyed it besides some bad dialogue

I think they should avoid large scale stories because favreau isn’t a deft enough writer

[formal cape]

Very good direction on this episode, which is rare for this season

[crystal cliff]

Like not showing Bo / din saying bye is a miss tbh

[formal cape]

I more thought it was silly how quickly they wrapped up Gideon

“He’s made clones of himself!?!” two seconds later they are all dead

[pure lotus]

I'm so hung up on the "real gideon has a mustache so that must have been a clone" comment

[crystal cliff]

Honestly I think Gideon is maybe the worst written thing in the entire show

So I’m relieved they wrapped that shit up

It’s so bad

[formal cape]

Yup

This is like the 3rd spider man movie where we had to get through a ton of fan service, but by the end of it the stakes are back where they should be

[crystal cliff]

Idk id do your research about what other parts he was booked for before stressing

[formal cape]

Overall that was good

Easily the best episode of a bad season

[crystal cliff]

The r5 scenes were my favorite tbh

When he does the peek it feels so Star Wars

[formal cape]

Felt like a series finale

Also can’t wait for another lifetime of people complaining that a female Skywalker could move through space while no one bats an eye that a baby could stop the explosion from a cruiser

[crystal cliff]

Yeah I mean I wanted to see bos reaction to that

[weary olive]

*move through space after her ship suffered explosive decompression

[formal cape]

Thanks Oats, glad the timer can start now

[crystal cliff]

Yeah but did you see Gideon try to harvest HER life force for the force?

No you didn’t so REKT

[weary olive]

Np

[crystal kiln]

Honestly I hope they just don’t go back to mandalore again

[crystal cliff]

Imo no shot they don’t

[crystal kiln]

yeah but I can dream

[weary olive]

If I might offer, grogu also just deflected the fire/heat slightly away from them, hardly “stopping the explosion from a cruiser”

[crystal cliff]

How many times they go back to nevarro to show how prosperous it is now

[weary olive]

Other than that carry on

[crystal cliff]

True feathers I would never kill your dreams

[weary olive]

Well now that they live there, probably many more times

[crystal cliff]

Grogu is sue storm

[weary olive]

I do think that Carl weathers saying Navarro does have a nice ring to it

[crystal kiln]

I hope next season features the return of beloved character Gorian Shard

[weary olive]

He’s dead though

[crystal kiln]

They never showed a body

[weary olive]

I wish they made his ship rather than the mando ship

[crystal cliff]

Whatever I’m holding out for my man Geode.

Real fans know.

[weary olive]

He’s gonna be in acolyte

Bet

[crystal kiln]

it’s kinda like wild how they hyped up reuniting mandalore and how divided their people were

When all it was was like

A group of 30 bounty hunters who don’t like wearing helmets

And 40 who do

[crystal cliff]

Everytime there’s a rock in the background this gonna be me

[crystal kiln]

And they have one fight

[crystal cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[weary olive]

Yeah farveue needs to stick to the small stuff

[crystal cliff]

GEODE!!!

[weary olive]

Or get a better writing buddy

[crystal kiln]

The acolyte looks so good

[weary olive]

Why does he do the weird thing with his hand

[crystal cliff]

He needs a writers room so bad

[weary olive]

That’s always bothered me

[crystal kiln]

Genuinely like if you’re gonna do adventure of the week at least bring in some different writers to shake things up

[crystal cliff]

The pacing is cuz he doesn’t know how to write a narrative structure

[earnest smelt]

Just say obi knows

[crystal cliff]

Haha one of my good friends loves high republic and I out knowledged him due to your sick geode knowledge

[earnest smelt]

Lemme find my signed Geode card

[crystal kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-gif-22731535

Favreau when he’s told to write a single mando episode without a big creature

[weary olive]

Tbf the big creatures are the best episodes

Except the flying one this time was weird

[crystal kiln]

I did like the robot spider one

but the bird episode is so funny

[crystal cliff]

When are they gonna find his pile of mando skulls

[foggy tide]

PIRATE KING GORIAN SHARD

[crystal cliff]

The bird episode is probably my least favorite this entire season

It’s up there

[crystal kiln]

The bird episode is the ice spider episode done wrong

[crystal cliff]

Why could Paz not outrun a shriekhawk but the can fly basically all over mandalore in their jet packs?

In this last episode

[foggy tide]

the ice spider episode is also the ice spider episode done wrong. hot take. sorry whyit who i now see is typing.

[crystal cliff]

I h8 the eppy

[burnt steppe]

I think they wrote themselves into a corner with Din having the dark saber and needing Bo to end up with it so the capture and rescue was their way of getting it back to her

[crystal cliff]

Yeah you’re right Whyit

[crystal kiln]

I really wish we got a proper bo and Din fight instead

[burnt steppe]

was it not great? yes.
did it achieve what it needed to and also give us great first looks at Mandalore cities? also yes

[formal cape]

Sorry I still can’t believe that 3 seasons of buildup for why were they kidnapping Baby Yoda they just went answered and resolved it all within 5 seconds

Oh I guess Moff Gideon has been trying to make clones of himself presses button and now they’re all dead

[weary olive]

Insert invincible meme

[weary olive]

First appearance of our republic guy though

[crystal cliff]

True I do like him

[weary olive]

I did enjoy the shot of them diving outta the ship into the other ships

[clever sundial]

Great job making magic @weary olive! Mickey is promoting you to level 61 !

[weary olive]

We ain’t see that before

[formal cape]

So it’s not just me that thought a lot of this shows following just kinda died

[foggy tide]

season 1 was a cultural event and now this season it just felt like it was kinda happening

[tepid lake]

Baby Yoda was a massive bomb dropped on us and they simply had no follow up

Great pilot, no plan.

[foggy tide]

man

finally accepting this season was not good

[formal cape]

I enjoyed the hallway guards having the TR8R weapon

And Snokes guards continue to be cool

https://tenor.com/view/traitor-gif-21942304

[tough sigil]

https://fxtwitter.com/ahsokasgoggles/status/1648890428635369472?s=46&t=3XXe_cqn-FHydyxAznfDiw

Also I can’t get over Grogu’s Kermit walk

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-kermit-the-frog-walking-happy-singing-gif-3585721

[proven hedge]

hot take; this season overall wasn’t bad

it was just fine

there were some very good episodes and some boring/bad episodes so

[proven hedge]

I know so many people who watched 1&2 and haven’t even thought about S3 or considered watching

[pure lotus]

they were basically star wars nazgul

and it worked so well

[solar copper]

I think this season is better than S2, but worse than S1 personally. S2 had a few high point (Ahsoka’s episode, the extended aspect ratio fight in the premiere, and Bo’s first episode) that are better than this season’s high points, but overall I like this season more. I will say I’m personally a sucker for serialized story telling over episodic/procedural story telling and this felt more serialized than S1/2 did. S1 just works perfectly as a mystery box around Grogu. I do think they fumbled/didnt have a great plan for him though which was a mistake.

[pure lotus]

maybe hot take:

the mando alone episode of boba was better than any single episode this season

[proven hedge]

boba’s best episodes were the ones just about din

they were actually decent Mando episodes lol

[solar copper]

I mean I was going to say thats probably the best episode of Mando period.

BDH’s episodes have all been really good, I love her episode in S1 also, the seven samurai type story

[proven hedge]

I mean the visuals were pretty great in the Boba episodes too, honestly some of my favorite Mando episodes

[primal flume]

One of my problems with post S2 is I just dont care about their weird cult. S1 & S2 see DD pull away from the cult and meet Bo. Boba and S3 have him needing to be in the cult. DD just loses agency in S3 when he gets back in with the cult. Why does he care. Why do i care about this cult? Other than the fun S1 "this is the way", I dont care.

the two big groups we follow in star wars, the jedi and the mandalorians, are weird cults that failed. Its boring to watch a stagnate universe where no one seems to learn any lessons.

[solar copper]

Yep, if they had done the story line of this season in two, I would have spent all of this season with Din deciding whether he should be in the cult or not at all and give reason for him joining the cult.

[pure lotus]

it's boring to watch a stagnate universe where no one seems to learn any lessons
but don't worry, rey is gonna open a new jedi academy soon

[solar copper]

I mean they did say that was going to focus on the idea of “do we need the Jedi”

[foggy tide]

I think I liked book of boba more than this season lmao

[crystal kiln]

Book of boba has some like comedically bizarre choices that at least make it an interesting watch

This feels like every decision they made was because it would be the easiest possible thing to write

[solar copper]

Now that’s a hot take

[formal cape]

Holy shit you’re right

[primal flume]

its a hot take, but its the correct take

[formal cape]

Wow - they should really make a Star Wars thing about acknowledging failure and using it to make you develop stronger

[primal flume]

they would never do that

[tepid lake]

I mean, they fumbled Obi-Wan, which was arguably the most open layup of all time.

[gentle spear]

...now that you say it i think boba was better than this season, at least i wasn't utterly bored for multiple episodes

[tepid lake]

To expect them to bring home a series about helmets we hardly care about is a fantasy.

[gentle spear]

i'll never defend the stupid mods and crappy chase scenes, but at least the plot mostly was consistent and went somewhere

[foggy tide]

Obi Wan was better than this too but I liked Obi Wan as a whole

[crystal kiln]

See the space vespas are more creative than any single thing in season 3

[foggy tide]

The Vader stuff is single-handedly better than anything in the MANDOVERSE

[gentle spear]

idk...vader being like 'oh no, some fire, better let obiwan escape this quarry' was pretty bad writing

[formal cape]

But if they did make it, the fans would totally love seeing their favorite characters overcome challenges, and absolutely wouldn’t complain at everyone wasn’t awesome and amazing all the time

[pure lotus]

to be fair, he doesn't have a great history when it comes to Obi-Wan and fire together

[formal cape]

“Look kid, this ain’t that type of movie” - Harrison Ford

[gentle spear]

I only recognize therapist Harrison Ford quotes now

[shrewd shell]

As a BoBF enjoyer, based

still will defend BoBF > Kenobi

id rather take a swing and a miss with BoBF, rather than the extremely safe and predictable Kenobi with its poor production quality

[crystal cliff]

I'm glad everyone else has drank the hatorade

[fading raptor]

Will Zeb be joining them though?

[solar copper]

Why does it feel like they are basically taking the Rangers of the New Republic show and making Din the lead instead and calling it S4 of Mandalorian?

[fading raptor]

That’s probably what they’re doing

[weary olive]

To be fair, this does sound like what mando would be doing

[formal cape]

I love it

Dave Filoni jump scare warning please

[crystal kiln]

probably because rangers has finished scripts

[clever sundial]

Great job making magic @crystal kiln! Mickey is promoting you to level 34 !

[solar copper]

The more I think about it, the more I think this season was supposed to be two seasons, with S4 ending the way this one did (recapturing Mandalore) and the New Republic show was set between them and the plot of that, the recapture of Mandalore, and whatever happens in Ahsoka coalesces into the Filoni movie, but now that New Republic show was cancelled they had to regroup it and Din’s journey to rejoin his cult got the short end of the stick.

[pure lotus]

rangers probably has scripts but i imagine using grogu in anything is more expensive than what was written as star wars law & order

[hoary comet]

Hedging for a writer's strike maybe?

[solar copper]

Possibly.

[formal cape]

Would that impact them?

I thought they didn’t have writers

[pure lotus]

would a strike prevent them from producing already finished scripts?

i forget how 2008 went, all i remember is conan spinning his ring on his desk lol

[hoary comet]

No but you also wouldn't be able to make modifications on set as dictated by a writer as is the norm for most shows filming these days so you would want to be very secure in what you are trying to film.

[solar copper]

Which is why I doubt it will happen, but Disney is Disney.

[tepid lake]

Here's a take: is The Mandalorian a more interesting series moving forward if they ditch Grogu

I think yes. Three seasons in, Lil Yoda has been reduced to a deus ex machina (fire block: activate!) and feels little more than a plot point to get Mando to the dance with other helmets

[solar copper]

You aren’t wrong tbh. I think they wasted Grogu in this season and he hurt more than he helped the narrative structure of this season, I think this also goes to things that got changed.

[tepid lake]

Which is a shame, because I think what hooked me so early was the question about what Grogu was and why they could matter.

And S2+ pivoted away from that pretty hard.

[solar copper]

S2 ended Grogu’s arc perfectly I think. I think if you want to bring him back, it should have been handled with a lot more care than the dumping it in the middle of a spin off it got.

[fading raptor]

It feels like they’re robbing Grogu of a potentially great future.

[crystal kiln]

I honestly don’t know if grogu is the biggest problem with the show. Definitely a problem but I think the core issue right now is that Din is such a bland character

[tepid lake]

This remains such an unforgivable act. His return was in, like, a commercial break featuring an ad for Boba

[solar copper]

Like I’m not saying this season of Mando is perfect, its obviously not. But Boba was so bad for things like that, Its best episode was the episode that should have been season premiere of this Mando season. And thats an issue for me.

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/eggdrawsthings/status/1649097532293754882?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[solar copper]

Lol, everyone wants Mando to take his helmet off permenantly and its clear for 2 reasons that won’t ever happen

[tepid lake]

My reaction to this is that D&J didn't trust the audience.

A better show either doesn't make Boba part of the narrative and/or keeps Grogu out of the picture until later in S3

[solar copper]

The in universe one is he believes in this cult and the out of universe reason is that it allows Pedro to go off and do other things while Mando is filming

[tepid lake]

You kind of see this even in the pilot episode. Mando is faced with a problem -- how do I get there? I have to ride this thing? -- and he solves it in a 1-minute montage.

[fading raptor]

I think people want him to not be apart of a crazy cult for one but yeah, he won’t take his helmet off anymore at this point unless the story forces it from his head

[solar copper]

Like there is zero chance Pedro was on set at all for this season.

[crystal kiln]

He absolutely wasn’t and it definitely affected the story lol

[tepid lake]

He is never on set unless he has to show his face. And they film that in a day for the entire season.

[gentle spear]

honestly keeping Din in the cult makes it less interesting, you can tell the helmet motions aren't fitting the ADR in the finale as well. It forces us to have bland conversations between a shiny helmet and a babbling puppet and eventually (already) thats getting tiring

[crystal kiln]

He was actually in suit a bit for s2

iirc

[solar copper]

Yeah, but its clear he believes in said cult for better or worse. The issue is we never got the story as to why he believes in this cult so much, he’s an apostate for 2 episodes and then “oh you did the thing, welcome back”

[fading raptor]

Oh of course. They had a path away from it but they just pushed him back in

[tepid lake]

Unless there is BTS of him marching around on set, I would be willing to bet that any reference of him in that suit without doing a face reveal is a PR bit

Like a "guys we swear it's him!"

[crystal kiln]

I mean maybe, but like they didn’t do that for s1 or this season

[fading raptor]

Like take the dude out of his comfort zone and have him adapt instead of just letting him crawl back into his cocoon.

[solar copper]

The litterally only reason he takes off his helmet in S1 was to get credited as an actor and not just voice actor for health benifit reasons

[crystal kiln]

Also the cult is like objectively awful

And it actually feels kinda weird how much the show stretches to portray it in a good light

[tepid lake]

It's also such a target for dumb, but reasonable, questions

[solar copper]

Yep, if theres a main issue with this show on the whole its that.

[formal cape]

I’ll push back and say the cult is neat TV

[gentle spear]

the cult are the dumbest group in the galaxy 'oh yeah we've had several kids stolen off this beach. anyways, time to go eat solo away from everyone else'

[formal cape]

This is Star Wars - the Jedi kidnap children to turn them into an army

They are all weird

[crystal kiln]

Yeah but the Jedi Order has been consistently portrayed as a failure

[crystal kiln]

I don’t take issue with it being in the show itself or even Din being a member

it’s just weird how it’s presented

[gentle spear]

they're his quest givers. so much of this season felt like a video game plotline

[tepid lake]

They all should've had a yellow ! above their heads

[gentle spear]

Side quest: Din failed a skill check and IG-11 does not join the party
Side quest: Din hears of a pirate attack on Navarro, Din should investigate

[crystal cliff]

What about his slutty knee pop

https://64.media.tumblr.com/bc905079ff8163c2492b7acaa71bdfe3/f818290349996a03-33/s540x810/d5bf0f8abb9d5afde55fb1b8892bd6adc2f04525.jpg

you're telling me that's another person doing the slutty knee pop?? hmm riddle me that

[shrewd shell]

Yeah I think he's kinda boring. He was really interesting in BoBF without Grogu and as a reluctant leader, but both of those traits got swept away this season. I did like to see his hatred of droids back tho, good to see him have traits

[crystal kiln]

he’s kinda been a little boring throughout but at least he had people to bounce off of

When most of the side characters are also wearing helmets it’s really hard to connect to anyone

[gentle spear]

. I did like to see his hatred of droids back tho
you mean when he tried to repair a droid and then..it kinda went no where for 6 episodes?

[earnest smelt]

just gonna contribute nothing but cute little pictures to this discussion

[gentle spear]

granted grogu in the ig body was fun and made it less ridiculous when he was in combat

[crystal cliff]

marvel already solved this problem

https://i.stack.imgur.com/2GP2q.jpg

just do this

[shrewd shell]

im talking about him kicking the droids

i was like oh yeah Din has multiple things about him other than space Dad

[crystal cliff]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/72/28/3a72285d446ee52f35135a3238979ea6.jpg this could be him and bo, so touching, such connection

[shrewd shell]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

I hated it so much when they did it in Wakanda Forever

its so lazy

[crystal cliff]

Yes it's bad and it requires them to have Pedro on set which is obviously something they won't bother with lol

But wouldn't it be fucking funny if that they did that for the Mandos and it just cuts between like, when they're having convos like that

[shrewd shell]

"Clearly you've never made an omelet" -Bo Katan

[gentle spear]

just keep the zoom icon in the bottom corner

[earnest smelt]

Sorry no budget for CG you get a go-pro shot of Pedro instead

[crystal cliff]

HELL YES

[shrewd shell]

https://tenor.com/view/black-adam-gif-26989330

[earnest smelt]

They went door to door asking if people wanted to join.

[shrewd shell]

"we have to unite all the mandalorians and take back the planet"
turns out theres only like 40 of them and theyre all either in the cult or with Axe

or the 3 on the planet

[primal flume]

they got better

[shrewd shell]

also dont ask what happend to the rest of the TIEs that attacked the ship

[primal flume]

they went back to their home planet

the tie planet

[fading raptor]

I’m guessing there are other Mando’s out that will eventually get the call home

Either that or there is going to be a lot of repopulation going on. And hey! The cult can now remove their helmets as much as they want because they can just go bath in the living waters whenever they want

[eternal spire]

Don't know if this was discussed before but it helps explain the spies title from the epsiode 7

"I believe the title "The Spies" is actually references to the old testament where in which the Jews sending spies (in Hebrew) to ancient Israel so they will research the land and find if and where they can actually live there and what are the threats awaiting for them, which is pretty similar to most of the plot of this episode"

"I believe the title "The Spies" is actually references to the old testament where in which the Jews sending spies (in Hebrew) to ancient Israel so they will research the land and find if and where they can actually live there and what are the threats awaiting for them, which is pretty similar to most of the plot of this episode"

I'm taking the comments from a discussion on reddit

[solar copper]

I’m very doubtful on that, also you posted twice

[eternal spire]

"There’s also Bo-Katan going through a ba’al teshuva, the cleansing in the waters aka a mikveh, the Mandalorian’s being purged and their home world getting destroyed by the (Roman) Empire after constantly rebelling, causing a diaspora.

Oh and you can’t forgot the obvious, that the most fanatical need to keep their heads covered.

So yeah there’s A LOT of cross over between Jewish history and the Mandalorian’s, this episode was just another one."

[past yew]

Im totally on board with this

[eternal spire]

I went back and counted the volunteers, there's 12 excluding Bo

[past yew]

I think they realized the implications when coming up with it and thought it was perfect

[solar copper]

Its an explanation and I see the connections, I’d be curious to hear from Filoni or Faverau on it

[past yew]

It wouldn't be the first time Favreau used a religious story as a basis for the show

[eternal spire]

I was reading the mandalorian subreddit and got the quotes from there

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMandalorianTV/comments/12jjee0/i_think_you_all_looking_at_the_name_of_the/

[static bane]

the ending was cute

but a lot of episodes were just really hard to sit through tbh

season was fine just very forgettable

[gentle spear]

there's a ton of overlap with this season and Jewish history /theology, screencrush has been pointing it pretty regularly during the season

[primal flume]

https://twitter.com/anihuggingpadme/status/1649048826815328257?s=46&t=AL1eYZds72N16cpk7Fl1Lg

vye / elle (@anihuggingpadme)

the best part about the mandalorian is whenever grogu force-jumps and it’s so obvious that they just threw the whole puppet in the air and hit record

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[proven hedge]

Hard to get much more realistic considering Grogu is less than a foot tall lol

Probably weights like 5 pounds or something

[tepid lake]

This is so disgusting and hilariously true

[proven hedge]

someone needs to make this an emoji

[steel stag]

!simba

[clever sundial]

https://media.giphy.com/media/DvMHwFYLVHlZe/giphy.gif

[tepid lake]

https://fxtwitter.com/isthatabench/status/1649091701817106432?s=46&t=esICs5uOihczWuHHGIS4Sw

[proven hedge]

no actually why though

Grogu is also almost never under any real threat in this show lol

Since he’s one of the few things keeping people watching

[tepid lake]

So much of this season makes me think about the S1 BTS interviews. There was one where Jon asked Dave what the meaning behind all of the stormtrooper helmets on stakes meant -- like if it had some deeper meaning and was part of this "stay out" vibe of the city -- and Dave responded with something like "they just look cool"

And it's like oh, you don't actually approach this with critical thought. The dinner plate is that.

[fading raptor]

So much of the shit that fans think a lot about is just like that. "Oh, we thought this was cool and that's it." with maybe some explanation later

Like a retcon to add meaning

[proven hedge]

Dave Filoni is basically just a Star Wars fanboy working at Lucasfilm

[tepid lake]

In that moment I took it more as Jon, being a filmmaker, applies thought to everything the camera sees and wants it to add value. Dave was just happy to play with a toy.

[fading raptor]

Oh, Jon is definitely going to think more about overall design. Dave is happy to play with the toys and fill in the story gaps left behind later.

[shrewd shell]

oh my god yeah, I even predicted that they would shoot him and give a little fake out

[fading raptor]

Tbh, I forget about that chest piece.

[tepid lake]

So did they 🥶

[proven hedge]

I was honestly imagining for the finale that they would have Din nearly dying towards the end fighting with the Praetorian Guards and Grogu tapping into the dark side to save Din

[tepid lake]

Anything other than what they did would've been an improvement. This finale had some similar beats to the first season's closeout.

Remember when Din was like "just go without me!" and it was this big heroic moment, but he rejoined them 3-minutes later? That's what the Grogu rescue felt like.

I wonder where the impulse/requirement to solve plot points super quickly comes from.

Like, don't do the Lizzo episode, move everything up one, end chapter 7 on Grogu running away and the guards closing in, and let us sit with that for a week.

And then you get the 3-minutes necessary to say "Hey, Paz was pretty great" instead of also forgetting him as a character.

[slate crow]

I mentioned they should have had Grogu find a sith crystal of Maul's from his time on Mandalore. Have it possess/influence Grogu, and he force lightning kills the Preatorian Guards

[proven hedge]

Grogu probably wouldn’t be powerful enough yet for lightning but force choke I could see

[proven hedge]

Most Star Wars shows(and for that matter, most D+ shows) have had bad pacing

[proven hedge]

Loved the Lizzo episode personally, but they probably could have cut E1 and E2 into a 1hr 20m pilot

This season felt like it was trying to set up and do so many things that it forgot what the show was about

[shrewd shell]

yeah he uses force choke in s1

I think they shouldve put the 2 bobf episodes at the beginning of this season (he couldve still shown up in bobf) and leave Grogu out for the season and have his decision to return at the end of the season

[proven hedge]

That would probably have been better

[tepid lake]

“They’ll have a lot to take in, and I think with any good ending there’s the moment you’re in it when you’re cheering and you feel satisfied, but then there’s a little bit after that where you think back at all the things that happened. Maybe you start to put them together in a different way and you realize it’s an ending, but there are other things happening out there in the galaxy that now you know more about.”
-- Dave Filoni

What edit/show was he watching 🤔

[crystal cliff]

Bagel you're the #1 Filoni hater on this server I think

[tepid lake]

😄

I'm a Favreau apologist

Mikey understands SW and storytelling

[crystal cliff]

Lmao, well I like Favreau more than Filoni, I'm not super keen on either

[tepid lake]

Jon needs to be focusing on Chef 2

[fading raptor]

Or at least more of the Chef show

[tepid lake]

I was all-in on Filoni being a part of this show and hyped about it up until The Gunslinger, which I think is one of the worst episodes of the series.

[crystal cliff]

I've never gotten the Filoni attachment because I don't watch TCW and I'm a hater of big hats.

[tepid lake]

TBH I think that's why I dislike him/his stuff.

I was pumped because I thought it was an awesome way to introduce characters I knew folks loved, but when I got the Wish dot com product I wasn't excited anymore.

[crystal cliff]

Yeah I mean. I think if they wanna do things like that they need a writer's room.

[shrewd shell]

*was the worst episode of the series

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/ms0k1/status/1649658254291767296?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[earnest smelt]

This cup makes more sense now that the season is done

There a lotta baggage

[fading raptor]

[weary olive]

Tbh that’s not a bad idea

[primal flume]

idk to put this here or in #stаr-wаrs but putting it here to be safe

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/boba-fett-actor-temuera-morrison-never-received-a-call-for-the-mandalorian-season-3/ar-AA1aeQAJ

I was supposed to be in The Mandalorian season 3 but nobody rang me. I was waiting for the phone call in New Zealand, waiting and wanting to give up

Well that Mando guy stole a few chapters of my book. It was painful watching him turn up with some black new lethal sword. And the way he turned up in my Book of Boba, he just destroyed everybody. I'm sure this guy is… ah… ruining my show. But I couldn't say anything. I'm not the writer, so I have to bear it I guess

[fading raptor]

It sucks that they didn't have a way to bring him in but Mando was the best part of his show so yeah

[steel stag]

could’ve showed up on Tatoonie instead of coruscant

[plain pier]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRT4g33L/

[carmine flower]

Fett still got the better ship

[shrewd shell]

and armor

ngl kinda tired/not a big fan of din's all silver armor

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-boba-fett-din-djarin-gif-24824145

[fading raptor]

Din as a character is pretty basic. The silver armor fits

[shrewd shell]

was just kinda hoping that in this season he would get a cool change or something to it

needs some weathering and scratches imo

I like how in S2 Boba's repainted armor is 100%clean and then its a little scratched for BoBF

and with Cobb Vanth and when he first gets it back, theres been 4 different updates to the Boba Fett armor, which I think is pretty cool

[pure lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/chrome-spongebob-future-fuuuuutuuurreee-gif-19192606

[mint quest]

I really hated S2's ending. At least Mando does something in this one.

[crystal cliff]

that's because the true ending for season 2 is in book of boba fett

[mint quest]

Actually that would have been pretty cool. If those two episodes of Boba Fett were an epilogue to S2 instead of the beginning of S3.

What S3 was in a nutshell was one very long regular episode of the show.

Showing up on a planet and helping an NPC (Bo) with her problem before he and Baby Yoda jet off.

[weary olive]

That’s a good point

[mint quest]

Kinda fucked up that Mando finally decided to retire and didn't go back to that lady from Shrimp Heaven Planet.

He's even posted up on the same side of the door as in that episode

[proven hedge]

shrimp heaven is one of my favorite episodes

[shrewd shell]

left her on read 😔

[tough sigil]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRTtc4gU/

[vast rover]

Disappointed but not too much. He outsmarted the Rebels several times and emphasized the main core stratagem of ruling space with numerous capital ships instead of stupid fucking moon sized and planet sized weapons with major weaknesses.

[crystal cliff]

wtf how far back are you reading lol

I mean in the upcoming live action

[formal cape]

Thrawn is basically just Kahn right?

[vast rover]

I tried to read thru all the convo, got to like 4/15/23 and gave up

Thrawn is Khan mentally, but with none of the physical traits

I just finished the last 2 episodes....wow.

That was such an abrupt and boring ending lol

[vast rover]

alright so after reading thru all the comments here, I think the issue is that the focus drifted away from Grogu. This season shouldve focused on The Dins, and not (Katan-Bo)? And yeah, having a bunch of "actors" talk and express in the most monotone way under helmets doesn't really get me to feel.

The parts that almost got me to feel emotion was every time Pascal removed his helm.

yes, and he was supposed to be different.

He shouldve been the catalyst and example for the cult to change their ways. Which in some ways they did, but mostly didn't

Also thanks for wasting almost 2 full episodes on Dr. Pershing and Girl Spy that was clearly a spy and no one thought otherwise.

[primal flume]

(Bo-Katan's family name is Kryze)

[vast rover]

So she's Kryze Bo-Katan?

[primal flume]

yea

but i think DD is only one we've seen do family name first

[vast rover]

well they're saying it incorrectly then

the real mandos

[formal cape]

Dr Pershing was so much build up for Gideon clones that were introduced and killed off within 5 seconds

[vast rover]

must be some foundling shit

[vast rover]

I was GENUINELY confused for a second. Thought they were all getting released on their own. NOPE

Fuck you Pershing

couldve used that time spent on other things

So are we to assume that The Armorer or Cultists released the cosplaying Darth Maul Iron-man sounding Mando suit?

so the beskar marks led to nowhere

so

he had them this entire time but used robits instead

also, they fly now

[steel stag]

yes

[vast rover]

i don't like Filoni anymore

and yeah the production quality for this season felt more like Kenobi levels and a downgrade from S2 levels

was disappointing visually

[solar copper]

I agree with this outside the action scenes it was not great visually.

[solar copper]

I mean can’t really blame him here though, he only wrote 2 episodes and didn’t do any directing this season.

[vast rover]

eh. there was too much wrasslin in this for my taste lol

[steel stag]

its fine visually but it felt flat in wrapping up the threads together

[vast rover]

also increasingly frustrating for them to follow the trope of NO ONE FINDING COVER IN A FUCKING FIREFIGHT

this is not a Mando S3 issue. Just star wars in general

except maybe Andor. You cool.

And I didn't find any of the mandalorians to be interesting at all. Not even Paz Vizla. Which is a little concerning when its in the name of the show.

Maybe the Armorer. But more and more it seems like she's just a mindless drone like the other cultists. Wouldve liked some more expose on her? Or anyone?!

[vast rover]

I know I've complained about fan service, but can't help that I was disappointed to see nothing for this finale.

[mint quest]

Time to post the meme again. I don't have it saved yet, I'm afraid.

[earnest smelt]

https://fxtwitter.com/kristinbaver/status/1651335833906196481?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[primal flume]

the other concept art is up

[past yew]

That door looks like a ludicolo

[vast rover]

Looks like a Monsters Inc scare door. When wazowski and blue guy

[slate crow]

Sully. His name is Sully...

I mean, isn't the Monster's Inc ride your favorite ride at CA?

or is it Super Star Limo (which Monster's Inc replaced)?