#I think it would be cool to have disabled followers

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versed cave
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Idk I just think it would be cool because like then as quests they can ask you to make things accessible and stuff. Idk if anyone wants to add onto this cause that’s all I got

vale rampart
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I got this idea

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So

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Some followers would be unable to walk

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So they would just have to crawl around (like much slower than the regular followers )

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And you would have to make some sort of wheelchair for them

versed cave
dry hound
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this seems wrong

versed cave
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I’m disabled I thought it would be cool to have in game rep :))

lost frigate
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As an add on to this, there could be disability stuff with the bishops, like leshy describing what his crown did for him, and you being able to get him mobility aids that function similar, or making heket a text to speech thing.

paper peak
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really good idea inclusivity is always a win but i don’t know if there’s really a logical reason to why they would appear in universe.

since the game takes place in a more wildlife-ish world, animals with disabilities wouldnt really survive that often. especially when there’s cultists running around that can shoot fireballs out of their ass.

maybe they could specifically come only from eggs and/or helob?

lost frigate
lost frigate
paper peak
lost frigate
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I still stay the bishops are disabled and stay disabled,

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But yeah, disabled followers in general sounds awesome!

dry carbon
lost frigate
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I don't fully understand why disabled followers would be seen as a "bad" thing or a not positive thing.

The bishops are disabled. So why can't there be more disabled followers?

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Sorry, just confused

paper peak
# dry carbon this is repackaged ableism just ftr. these are talking animals that live in a cu...

Just to clarify — there’s really no reason to call me ableist here. I’m speaking strictly from an in-universe perspective. Before the animals are indoctrinated into the cult, they’re essentially in the wild being hunted by cultists and literal demons. Realistically, most wouldn't survive long enough to become followers if they had visible disabilities — that’s just how the game world is set up.
Once they’re in the cult? Totally different story. I literally said that disabled followers make sense in that context, and even suggested possible lore-consistent ways they could be introduced. So no, I wasn’t arguing against representation. just pointing out a gap in the idea that could be thought about.
I get that they’re talking animals in robes, but even absurd worlds can have internal logic. If caring about that is ableism now, then I guess the bar has really shifted.

dry carbon
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I said it was ableism repackaged because you were being ableist.

Did you know that when the first humans existed, some with disabilities were still around? And they were cared for by their tribes? Back when we had to hunt for survival and were nomadic, before we had cars and real hospitals? If what are essentially cavemen could figure out a sled for an old man with arthritis so he could stay with the group, I think its possible for disabled cultists to survive in a harsh world.

I don't doubt some would die, but they wouldn't all die. And finding them in the wild could be possible.

Your logic is what is the problem, not the questions you ask. You think it's not possible for disabled people to survive because you've not thought of it in a way where you can see other people helping them because they care rather than out of obligation.

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I'm also not saying they can't be gotten from Helob or eggs, I just think saying they could NEVER be found in the wild is what my problem is. Also disabled animals do exist in the wild as well, either through human means or just natural.

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Saying they couldn't survive or that its not possible because they have a disability is the issue.

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Disabilities in people and animals have existed since we came into being, and we are still here.

paper peak
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i didn’t mean to say they could NEVER be found and for that i’m sorry. i just meant they wouldn’t do as well, that’s on me, and you’re right so im sorry. some would survive but not all of them which i think could be turned into a cool implementation as a whole, pilgrim corpses (i believe they’re called pilgrims if not indoctrinated). you calling me ableist just really set me off especially being (technically) disabled myself💀 but i think i just didn’t know that ableism wasn’t specific to saying “all disabled people are bad” which is really stupid of me

dry carbon
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I apologize for coming at you so hard initially, I'm also disabled and have been fighting a lot of medical professionals about it over the years.

paper peak
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yeah mb. hope you’re doing well about it now tho. mines isn’t that bad, only 1.5 missing fingers💀

dry carbon
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I'm in a much better place with better doctors lol, it has been a difficult journey. peace and love for you, bud 💖

slender bluff
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oh boy, after leaving for 5-6 days, time to come back to suggestions and see-
What the fu-

lost frigate
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Suggested stuff:

Maybe you have to use gold as a material component in assistive technology (like, conducting electrical charge in hekets communications device) would also work logically because the propaganda speakers require gold.

Then again, it would give players a reason not to make assistive technology for followers, so not sure how good of an idea it is

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Oh and would hearing aids work for Kalamar, because it's written like narinder "ripped them off" as in, violent slashing damage, implies reconstruction near impossible. While that doesn't make hearing aids impossible, if the damage was to, like, the internal hearing stuff, not just the external cartrlidge, like a funnel. So, maybe?

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Anyway, point is, how cool would working out the aids components be? 🙂

lost frigate
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(narinders voice being the one who's recorded, hence the statement)

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Hope this is ok

dry hound
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dude

autumn plume
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For me it's two things Austim flag and or pride flags in game

vale rampart
daring valley
versed cave
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Jesus I didn’t realize there was people talking here-

versed cave
lost frigate
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like, the crown flags but recoloured to be pride/autism?

lost frigate
# versed cave Well, yeah a lot of people might. It’s representation for some and a free sacrif...

100% behind you on this. after all, old people exist in real life and get killed in game, people who opperate better at night, or dont want sex, or rather like sex, all of those things have representation in game and all can be murdered. it's, like, the games version of accsessability: "everyone can die" but also "death is not final" if it exists as a follower you can kill it and the game rewards you for killing stuff. yet i'd wager that most peoples initail reaction to getting the sacrifice ritual is "i'd never!"

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sorry, got a bit ramble-y. my point is, when you have to put effort into things not dying, why should "it'll die" mean "don't do it"?

versed cave
daring valley
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Sorry

lost frigate
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now i'm just imagining the bishops having diffrent thoughts towards disabled followers. like, based on their own stuff

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like, heket having thoughts along the lines of "(saw silenced follower) i'd tell you it gets better if i could tell you anything at all"

chrome crest
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Was thinking the other day maybe followers with disabilities may have other perks that may stop players from just absolutely murking them (for no reason)

Smth smth Where one skill fails another flourishes

Maybe Followers with missing legs move slower (via crutch animation) but like one suggested here, upgrading them and giving them better mobility aids could be a perk for movement

Until then despite being slow in movement maybe their faster in less physically-demanding tasks (Cooking, Worship, Knucklebones, Refinery, Maybe even Disciple work)

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Deaf followers wont join you when inspiring/blessing/intimidating others due to poor hearing and are uneffected by propaganda speakers but have a higher chance of a bigger haul when gathering resources

Blind followers can pretty much operate almost the same as any other follower unless its precision-based tasks(?) Like Cooking and the only thing stopping them would probably be if you move, add, or destroy buildings bc that might throw them off

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-# Tbf Disability followers would be interesting bc they might help provide new features for all followers. Reminder that the typewriter was invented for blind people, and today texting can be considered a descendant of such invention

vale rampart
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What if Blind or followers with impaired vision pray at random areas in the cult (because they cant see properly) and you can gain devotion from them every day

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The amount of devotion depends on the follower's loyalty

chrome crest
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Something i thought of that would not only add onto this based off of history but also due to the new dlc is

If theres followers that might need to amputate a limb due to frostbite you could add in a barber shop

Just for historical reference
-# and to give our followers the luxurious cuts they deserve/j

lost frigate
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yeah! (sorry, not sure if excitement is the right tone for that)

chrome crest
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You get free medical care historical lesson and a low taper fade

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-# maybe so its not completely useless in a medical context it can double as a secondary health bay thats somewhat automatic where a follower assigned to work there can deal with sick followers (unless theyre like- cursed or catonic)

covert hearth
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Just Imagine A Wheelchair Ramp At Those Stairs At The Top Of Your Cult.

lost frigate
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just imagine all the followers running together to collectively build the ramp, and they all smiling and its just this moment of unity? i dunno, i can picture it so clearly and it looks nice

drifting relic
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Would be cool if I could attach rockets to wheelchair to make the follower go superfast and then give him a ramp to be entertainment

sand crescent
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A few times when I’ve
Read Leshy’s mind he’s complaint about the random objects he keeps bumping into(implying think a certain amount of disorganisation in the cult which wouldn’t help a blind bishop)

lost frigate
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hey re-read this and got some more thoughts

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what if the disability stuff had it's own skill tree type thing? like, by talking to disabled followers, you get points in the meter, and the diffrent unlocks are basically "you understand the needs better and can help more effectively" like, wheelchairs upgrading to go from "movie wheelchair" to "actual wheelchair designed for long term use and user independance"

sand crescent
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I did spit the other day followers hugging a follower who was terrified by the mission. Haven’t seen that before but will keep an eye out

lost frigate
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we did it

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spare forge
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Not just leshy

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But also another uniqe follower has it too

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||the exicutioner also has the trait too if you choose to let her into the cult||

lost frigate
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thats true! i forgot about that!

sinful ferry
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we do? their name are leshy and hagar. you can count in heket, kalamar and shamura too

true saffron
lost frigate
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also the ideas suggested afterwards were moreso about how to care for/look after and utalise disability specific mechanics

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oh, and for more variations of diasabled, leshy and hagar are both blind because of the physical loss of their eyes.

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(no shame/hate to the developers, love that you added them at all! just explaining the diffrences between the in game implimentation and the core of this suggestion thread)

lost frigate
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Spoke to my dad about this thread and he suggested lil guide dogs.
Imagine being able to train up ranch animals into service animals

chrome crest
lost frigate
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I know!

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I was considering, like, support yakish

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With a lil jacket like service dogs get

chrome crest
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Maybe if anything that ALSO adds a mechanic for ranch animals to be trainable in general

Service dogs, protective ranch animals against wolf raids (like sheep dogs), ranch animals that can cure catatonic followers (like therapy/emotional support pets)

lost frigate
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All sounds amazing!

trail sandal
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Id really love to see at the very least the service ranchimals, hopefully we get to see all of the really nice disability rep eventually too <3 I'm somewhat disabled myself, just mental health shit and some sort of ghost joint condition that I apparently don't have-

dense finch
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We do have a healing tent to cure stuff

bitter ibex
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yea but you cant really cure disabilitie

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anyway this idea is awesome andneeds to be added 10000000%

uneven meteor
lost frigate
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There could be necklaces you can give to disabled followers that mark them as disabled (like the sunflower lanyard) and it basically means they get jobs done faster because other followers are aware of their additional needs?

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Dunno if I'm phrasing it right. Just, like
"Hey, can you move this thing?"
"Can't you just step over-" (sees necklace) "-um, yeah, sure."
"Thanks!"

uneven meteor