Child of Lamb; breeding system suggestion

[dull mantle]

So, the lamb unfortunately can't partake in hanky panky in the mating tent, but here's a hypothetical system that might sort out some of the issues that people have been speculating upon.

MATING
Treat the lamb like a normal follower when it comes to the initial mating. Let them get rejected by their followers if they dont hit the right percentage chance. Some people have suggested making it a follower questline that the lamb has to complete to woo a follower in the first place. So, its really an effort.

TRAITS
When it comes to traits, I think the lamb should have none, save for one that I'll get into later, so its actually a detriment to mate the lamb because you only get the traits of the follower and the random traits. It'll more be for story.

This is more a fun suggestion; but give a 0.1% chance for the kid to also be a lamb. Make it so this follower form is unobtainable normally, only through breeding. This can be tied to the trait I talked about earlier... 🥁

'Child/Descendant of the lamb'

THE ACTUAL KIDS

I think the lamb kids are completely normal followers. No need to complicate things. Maybe they've got just one special interaction. The only thing they'll share in common; is the descendant of the lamb trait which is always passed down to their offspring and so on, that is the nature of the trait.

Descendant of the lamb makes it so they can never mate with the lamb or descendent which stops the incest issue that people bring up. (I know its a game, but incest still icky people; come on). And also incentivises you bringing in cult members from outside to keep breeding.

Final word

I dont know how feasible this all is, given we're not privy to the design program of the game. End of the day, i like the update and this was just my attempt on how to bring in a feature a lot of people were hoping for.

Please let me know how you'd improve this system or if you think its unneeded at all!

EXTRAS

Be fun to see the lamb and the special charas also have a small chance to make unique form followers; like a cat-lamb hybrid or squid-lamb that can only be gotten via mating and breeding. Gives even more incentive to play around with the mating tent.

[shell wedge]

Narilamb babies that look like the lamb but have a third eye 🥰

[dull mantle]

Leshy lamb babies that are no eyes, just mouth XD

[shell wedge]

Yesss

[stone epoch]

Would it be funny if the Lamb lays golden eggs instead of a Follower?

A rare chance of just getting the most valuable resources out from the bottom
A literal ass pull

How did it all get in there?

Probably the excess from the runs.

[fading crow]

YES YES YES

LET THE LAMB FUCK!

also no need for a trait because followers already have their ancestors stroed internally like the bishops and children of normal followers do

[woeful bronze]

omg lamb fuck suggestion

[glossy ledge]

I want da lamb to make baby

[dull mantle]

Yeah but only for one gen I think. Iavent tested how far it goes back, but I do know that followers that should be siblings can still breed, so it certainly doesnt go that far back :/

[glossy ledge]

Lamb babys

There should be either us repopulating the lamb race or a secret lamb race that was hiding

[errant rampart]

Literally what I have wanted to do since I heard of the update.

What I want to do :

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006252222423781487/1197270580861337610/v12044gd0000cmgc6pfog65i6li3apt0.mov?ex=65baa81e&is=65a8331e&hm=cbb662b79d8aad6cf3f2ce5b1253c3b1d6272817adcea20ecff68e6429e77ec5&

[fading crow]

whats with everybody and narinder

[shell wedge]

Why not narinder

[dull mantle]

Everybody loves Narinder.

[full ivy]

What if there was a cooldown, but using the tent as the lamb gave you +1 sin instead of costing sin? Possibly an egg wouldn’t be generated, or wouldn’t be hatchable, but we could use it as a way of generating sin and raising loyalty?

[heavy night]

I want baby lambs though :(

[dull mantle]

Might be a way to earn eggs you can cook. Though in my opinion, I think it should still cost 1 sin or at least that the effort to have the lamb use the tent should be.. objectively worth less than other followers?

So, it should be harder and the main incentive should be the rare forms or just story purposes because this is a very story driven mechanic. People work harder for it because theyre invested in that story of the lamb having a family or whatever other reason.

But thoughts on having purely story based mechanics? 🙂

[fading crow]

"purely story b" you know people are just gonna fuck narinder over and over

[dusk basin]

i had this whose theory on if the lamb could use the tent and the followers came out as a lamb, they would be unable to leave the cult. perhaps it could be like a special role that prevents the follower from leaving the cult, and with this update perhaps it causes the followers to be unable to be sinned and leave your cult, maybe they take longer to oversin and if they do get sinned then perhaps you can do a little minigame to save the followers soul, if you fail they permadie and/or cost a large amount of sin/bones/gold bars to revive, and if you succeed you get a sin and you save the follower.

[dull mantle]

That is a story

[dull mantle]

Out of curiosity why do you think they should be unable to leave?

[fading crow]

well. you're not wrong

[dusk basin]

due to the lore of that your the last of your kind, adding that bit of lore that you cant let lamb followers leave at all theres a chance for those lamb followers to repopulate, and to reserve the lore lamb followers cant leave, so they cant dissent and leave, cant be dammed and leave, cant be sent on missions, and cant be given to the fox in the lore they might escape.

[dull mantle]

I feel like the last of your kind marks the beginning of the game though. After the prophecy is sort of fulfilled, I think you could play around with you being the last last. You would still be the last of your original species

[dull mantle]

Just to bump this a bit, but also the idea of how the lamb goes about wooing a follower is a fun idea to think about, maybe opens up the idea of gifting followers with more than just necklaces and gifts, but the actual food items or the like.

[last shale]

I like this idea. Maybe add tokens lamb may collect to bestow traits to his children?

[lofty quest]

I have a few thoughts on this.

1. Only make it possible for the lamb to mate with Married followers.
2. Like you said, mating chance shouldn't be 100%. Actually, it should probably be very low.
3. Either the lamb could have the unused Ex-Cult Leader trait or you could choose any of the traits in the game (except for Immortal, Don't Starve, and Ex-Cult Leader) to fill one of the child's trait slots.
4. I'm pretty sure you already can't have siblings mate with each other. Same thing with kids and their parents.

[fading crow]

yeah

the trait isnt necessary thats built in already

[dull mantle]

I agree with 1 and 2. Lamb kids ought be rare but worth it and it would make the marriage ritual more useful too.

Ive not heard of the unused ex cult leader trait though? What is it and what would it have done?

[dull mantle]

Actually it only works for programmed in siblings like ayam and Bal, or the bishops and narinder. Ive tested it. Follower siblings that should have the same parents still can breed. I havent tested if grandkids can breed with their supposed grandparents yet, but it seems like theyd be able since the game only accounts for direct descendants to not breed with their parent.

You could say lorewise, theyre not all related, since they just 'find' an egg after their hanky pankery times, and I dont think its that bad for followers whom youd lose track of from time to time; but lamb kin should probably have a more solidified system to prevent accidental inbreeding.

[dull mantle]

That could go in line with @lofty quest 's idea XD

[fading crow]

no???? they can't???? you can't breed siblings.

[dull mantle]

You can breed follower siblings Im pretty sure. You breed their parents twice

And then try breeding the two subsequent childrenn that should be siblings by defintion

[dull mantle]

You only cant breed programmed in siblings

[fading crow]

they. cannot.

[dull mantle]

Ive tested it, so unless they updated or patched it?

Screenshots would be helpful

[dull mantle]

Thats descendent

[fading crow]

OH FUCK OH SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT OH NO

[dull mantle]

You cant breed a child with a parent but you can breed two kids who have the same parent

Yep u_u

I mean it probably would be headache to track an entire family tree of genetics so I get why they didnt do it

But for the lamb you probably wanna avoid inbreeding lolol

Make it a challenge to get that rare follower form

[lofty quest]

According to the wiki, it raises the loyalty of a nearby follower once per day. I know that it can be used via save-editing, but I play the game on Switch so I don't know how significant the gains would be.

Also I didn't know that regular followers could inbreed. That's news to me. But yeah, they definitely should make lamb children unable to breed with each other.

[loud birch]

Let the lamb breed but it works just like followers with unique forms in which the baby has a likelihood to come out deformed

[dusk basin]

ah yes, you mean tumor babies?

[loud birch]

Yes, the tumor babies

[dull mantle]

Huh that's interesting, though maybe it should be switched a lil due to the loyalty cap? It'd be funny to see some babies with negative traits.

[trim trout]

Babies made with special characters should actually work out instead of turning into cheese children, since it's ichor x ichor instead of ichor x blood! Possibly makes the child look more demonic looking, but not an abomination

Babies with normal followers should have the deformity chance

An update like this would be perfect!

I'm pretty sure the lamb just isn't ready to use the tent yet since sinful rituals are what THEY consider sinful! The trailer shows them as ready to partake in sinful activities, but hesitant and embarrassed! The sin pack fleece is a step forward for them, so it shouldn't be said they're closed off from using the tent forever.

We'll give them the time they need till the update comes out :)

[dull mantle]

I do hope the devs would implement it eventually, seeing how everyone really wants it >< i wish theyd give us a definitive answer if it were a no go for them tho

[trim trout]

I'm pretty sure this will be a feature in the future due to it making sense/how popular it is! They probably wouldn't give us a definitive answer for the same reason we found out about the mating tent last minute: hype!

[slow dome]

Lamb sex.

[dull mantle]

Still its weird it wasnt bundle in with the mating tent, which sets some expectation if they are gonna use it, its gonna be some big story beat.

[trim trout]

Oh, it HAS to be a big story beat! That's a future demigod/full-blooded god right there!

[dull mantle]

I hope expectations dont get set too high even though a lot of people are excited for it XD

[gritty harness]

yep and there would be new achivements like "to restore the lost flock" by having 3 children with the lamb form, "child of life and death" by having your first born with narinder; "never too late to fix past mistakes" by having children with the lamb form with each of the bishops of the old faith.

[gritty harness]

is not just narinder who i want to have lambkins and repopulate the sheep race from this world; i want to do this too with shamura, kallamar, heket, leshy (yes i got married them too), and my other 6 spouses (who are also my loyal disciples alongside them 5, i am waiting to the last 12th one be a goat because reasons), which are a jade deer, a blue owl, purple dog, pink cat, orange fox and a gray rabbit.

[dull mantle]

I actually don't think they should be achievements with specific charas, if only it'll make some people feel like they have to mate with them, and I think it's better to leave it loose and let players choose how they wanna play with that mechanic.

Maybe just achievement for having a kid with anyone, but not so many to make it restrictive or uncomfortable that you have to in order to get an achievement

[somber frigate]

This gives a whole new meaning to reeducating your followers

[carmine scarab]

I think it would be cool if the descendant had like fake paper crown like it’s parents

And also that it can sleep on the lambs tent

[gritty harness]

Not just that, but also an lil red diaper ; and when they grow they come dressed as high ranking followers

[carmine scarab]

yessss

[bitter lagoon]

I'm late but I gotta

[bitter lagoon]

More like big story bleat

[gritty harness]

i agreed; and if you kissed your spouse, the higher their loyality towards you, if you gifted them today, is the desire ritual; this can increase the chance of the lamb mating and having a child with their spouse; and the leader's egg is different to tell apart because it's color and stuff

[fading crow]

i made a game to fulfill this exact need

#1201657012329381959

baby lamb

[gritty harness]

I have an idea; if a goat follower form gets implemented, a secret follower form would be triggered if the lamb goes to the mating tent with a spouse who is a goat follower resulting in the sheep and goat hybrid (geep) because this is a thing in irl; and some follower forms can only be adquire in a rare chance if followers of an certain species in the following combinations (ex: wolf x dog, llama x camel, horse x donkey, horse x zebra, donkey x zebra, tiger x lion, bison x cow, cat x serval, unicorn x Pegasus) I will even make a suggestion about this too

[dull mantle]

It would be interesting to see more hybrids. Itd probably be a more complex system ans I wonder if its even possible to implement, but it eould be interesting.

[lofty quest]

They could still get negative traits from the lamb's spouse. I'm just saying that it can be an option for one of the trait slots from the lamb's side.

[dull mantle]

That makes sense, but I think the loyalty thing is a bit useuless because you cap followers so quickly.

[fair fern]

At first I really thought I could only unlock the new follower forms from golden eggs like that I was putting all kinds of different combinations into the mating tent until I found out it is just random

[dull mantle]

I enjoy the randomness but itd be nice to have some that were tied to the actual animal

[slow dome]

I want to see the baby lambs.

[gritty harness]

Me too; I want a lambkin with the one who waits and name them/her “Lilith”

[gritty harness]

https://discord.com/channels/353179320644141057/1204857273436868608

i made the suggestion

with the lamb/sheep + goat combination

and some new ones

[dull mantle]

This thread has gotten 88 likes near lunar new year which is coincidentally a very lucky number in chinese 😆

[signal glen]

It is a very unlucky number in America because it is a dogwhistle for hate groups. I can DM an explanation.

I hate the lamb marrying and mating with followers because of the power imbalance. True consent is impossible.

This is real life cult things: they sure do like neglecting children and mating with followers.

[dull mantle]

No thanks :p

[bitter vigil]

Honestly great idea.

[trim trout]

Marrying has the same issue, which is why optimally completing Narinder's quest and THEN marrying him is the best possible move

It's kinda unfair to cancel all ships out of power imbalance though since followers would ABSOLUTELY be able to say no to you if this was added, and the Lamb is pretty much out of everyone's reach except other gods

Again though, the followers being able to say "no" is important! It's always going to be important

[shell dock]

Lol

[ashen hamlet]

Exactly. In other threads the mods/devs have made it **clear **that this game, while about a cult and having fantasy violence, will never implement a system in which followers would be forced to have kids with the Lamb or something along the lines of that. This isn't a game where that's something that'll EVER happen, as it just completely crosses the line of what this game is at it's core and also: Morals anyone? /nm /npa
But yeah, if we get to have our own kids, we can rest knowing that it'll likely be similar to the same system that's already in place for the followers mating, where we'd have different chances of being able to go in the tent with them depending on this or that.
||don't get at me for my "Morals anyone?" plz, I know it's a cult game, but shhhh... you get the idea, no need to take it further over this two word rhetorical question. I can already see it happening and I'm crying||

[trim trout]

You understand me

[twin ore]

There would inherently still be power differential issues at play here

Sometimes with followers who may literally have spent their entire lives being brainwashed into the cult, which would be seen as grooming by some

I think that's a problematic road even for a game about cults that the developers do not want to go down, like how they intentionally don't allow any incest either

[ashen hamlet]

If you haven't already, read my thing above. Explains that yes, the developers don't want that to happen and yada yada

[trim trout]

That's why hatched followers shouldn't be marrigable and eggs should be with spouses only

Pretty sure they're working on fixing the hatched spouse problem

[twin ore]

And for the power differential problem?

[ashen hamlet]

prob a similar system to the one in place for mating followers... anything else can't reallly be helped... unless someone else has other ideas

[twin ore]

Being able to marry someone who you indoctrinated into your cult and brainwashed versus outright having sex with them is a pretty huge leap

One doesn't involve violating them

[trim trout]

COTL IS power difference. The entire game and marriage system is full of it. Consent can and is taken into consideration, but in the end the lamb is a god. What matters is that the followers can still say no/consent

[ashen hamlet]

developers know, promise ya. but yee, totally get it

[trim trout]

This ^^

[worn mango]

Now I get why the Lamb only plays the Drums

[twin ore]

And there are limits to what goes too far; that's why the developers don't allow incest or for the lamb to fuck their brainwashed followers since that involves sexual acts and gets into really messed up territory

[ashen hamlet]

lol

[trim trout]

Power difference also isn't always toxic, you've just gotta be aware of the power difference and tread carefully. Think Betty and Simon from adventure time! They were around the same age, but Simon taught Betty and she kinda idolized him.

[twin ore]

There are limits even for a cult game

[trim trout]

They didn't treat it carefully, but there was nothing malicious

Hold on, I need a better example

Did I just summon a mass of angry people I'm scared

[ashen hamlet]

we know, devs know. move off that point? if we're doing this, lets get into better nitty gritty stuff, yeah?

[worn mango]

I beat the Game and I'm fine with just the lamb not participating But if anything why can't we use the boat by the Docks to travel to far off land in search of more of the Lambs kind

[twin ore]

Some people here apparently don't know

[trim trout]

Asmodeus and Fizz there we go

Those two are wholesome

[twin ore]

Or the 98 other people who want the lamb to be able to have sex with their followers

[worn mango]

If anything the lamb pretty much nurtures a child once it hatches

[twin ore]

Nobody is saying that the cult in this lighthearted game isn't problematic at all, but there are lines that the developers won't cross even for a game about cults

[worn mango]

Its a Game about cults No satanic Shit involved

[trim trout]

But we're not sure if this crosses that line with the way they implement it

[twin ore]

I see lots of suggestions not limited to this thread about lamb sex despite what developers have said time and again; it is weird and really concerning to me

[trim trout]

Wait, what did the devs say?

[worn mango]

Just be happy the lamb doesn't participate have you seen the trailer, the lamb is being responsible

[shell dock]

Ikr

[twin ore]

Sex without unambiguous consent is a red flag that should never be allowed here

[ashen hamlet]

I. already. said that.

[twin ore]

Then I wasn't replying to you

[trim trout]

Oh, absolutely yeah. That's why if this is implemented the followers can say no

[twin ore]

That they never plan to add it

[worn mango]

The followers Mate pretty much the same as Pokémon do, You never see it

[twin ore]

It was in another thread somewhere

[twin ore]

It wouldn't be a no free of pressure

Do you know how power differentials work?

[worn mango]

I had Kalamar call the lam fluffy

[trim trout]

Yes, I know, which is why the choice shouldn't be able to be influenced by items/actions/etc

Wait, what if it could only be done from a quest?

What if the follower had to ask you?

[twin ore]

You're not understanding what I mean; the fact that you're the cult leader and they're your followers means there will always be a power differential problem

Inherently there is a consent issue

[worn mango]

That maybe true but what if married

[twin ore]

Same thing

[trim trout]

But we can marry followers

[twin ore]

The only difference is the marriage doesn't involve sex which is a step too far

[twin ore]

You can't fuck them

There's a massive leap here

The developer put limits in place

This isn't an all-or-nothing situation

[worn mango]

Isn't the whole mating thing Just how Pokémon do it and somehow there's an egg

[twin ore]

This is wild to me

[ashen hamlet]

Okay, look: I get the power imbalance, but why isn't simply asking your followers to go in there (the tent) already an example of this?... just saying

[twin ore]

They have to agree to it and they both are followers

One isn't a leader of the other person

[trim trout]

Would it help if the follower had to be the one to ask? The lamb not asking or hinting at anything wouldn't lead to pressure at all

[twin ore]

False equivalence

[twin ore]

No

The lamb would have to find someone outside of the cult entirely

It's a position issue

Not just dialogue

[ashen hamlet]

So kidnap someone to take into the tent????

[worn mango]

There's a boat by the docks we could use to travel

[twin ore]

Please look up power differentials sometime and how they work

[trim trout]

This is kinda digging into the issue more seriously than this silly game would take it

[ashen hamlet]

or indoctrinate someone who is now a part of the cult to take into the tent

[twin ore]

Jesus Christ, that's not what I'm saying

I'm saying that the lamb would only have an ethical situation if they were dating someone outside of the cult altogether

Not kidnapping them

[ashen hamlet]

sorry sorry, that was a jump myself, and I fell into the Grand Canyon on my way down too-

[twin ore]

I don't appreciate being interpreted as wanting to kidnap someone for that

Sorry for swearing

But that went into a dark direction

Anyway I think this game should have limits when it comes to sexual content

[ashen hamlet]

I'm atheist so not a swear in my book- fair fair I'll see myself out tho
I'm being the butt here, not you

[worn mango]

Why not use the boat to travel

[twin ore]

Incest and the lamb not being able to screw their own followers

There will always be an imbalance issue

Which does affect consent

[trim trout]

Imbalance issues aren't inherently toxic though, they just have the possibility to be

[twin ore]

Those have real-life parallels that will make many people including myself uncomfortable with the game if those barriers are removed

It isn't just haha they got married

It's sexual activity whose real-life equivalent can traumatize when it's problematic

And it's not something that should be equated with the game's symbolic marriage system that doesn't involve sex

[trim trout]

Since this game parallels religion it could be a virgin Mary situation

[twin ore]

Sorry I'm getting passionate about this

[trim trout]

It's okay, I get it.

[twin ore]

But I'm getting really uncomfortable with how often this keeps coming up

It's a super sensitive topic

[trim trout]

Virgin Mary is always a possibility

[twin ore]

The cult will always be wackily problematic by its very nature; it's not an all-or-nothing situation either. But we need some lines that shouldn't be crossed.

[wraith turret]

The game would never include stuff like 'kidnapping followers to the tent' because it makes you think of crimes that we don't want in a game

[trim trout]

And again, power imbalances don't always lead to abuse. It's about how you handle the situation

[wraith turret]

Same with incest, that's why we patch bugs

[trim trout]

There are TONS of examples of power imbalance being used for evil, but that isn't always the case!

[wraith turret]

I mean, you already can marry followers, soo

[trim trout]

EXACTLY!

[ashen hamlet]

sorry sorry sorry, it was just my negative filter with the first thing that came to my mind
Need to work on it still

[trim trout]

This game would never tread on something so serious without consideration

[twin ore]

There is a MASSIVE leap in morality concerns between two characters getting married in a cult setting and them having sexual intercourse with each other

[wraith turret]

I'm glad we all can discuss this in a civil and mature way

[twin ore]

Let's not falsely equate these two

[trim trout]

This is true, but concerns aren't always met with the expected result. It's not impossible for two people in different positions to have a healthy and consensual sexual relationship

[wraith turret]

This may be one of the reasons why the devs didn't make the lamb enter the tent

[trim trout]

It just matters how it's approached

[wraith turret]

But still I'm not a dev

[twin ore]

I don't want it approached at all

[trim trout]

And again, if this is too far, Virgin Mary

[twin ore]

There is no way this would be okay

Not within the cult only at least

[wraith turret]

How about Lambert being able to have eggs only with, like
ex-bishops and ex-god of death

sory I like caaling eeem Lambert

[twin ore]

It honestly makes me uncomfortable with how often people bring it up in these Discord channels

[wraith turret]

My keyboard broke again

[trim trout]

I'd make an argument for post-questline Narinder since you're kinda of equal respect/standing actually

It's just the fandom that makes it creepy

He's not tsundere lmao

[twin ore]

It's disregarding red flags and potentially introducing some really triggering stuff to the game related to sexual crimes

Or if not crimes then at least immoral stuff

[trim trout]

It would be triggering if the game took itself seriously, which it does not.

[wraith turret]

Still we can't introduce certain things

I am very sensitive on the topic and many other do

[trim trout]

Same, I just wanna find a solution

[twin ore]

There is no unserious way to add sex with ambiguous consent to this game

[twin ore]

We don't do it period; that's the solution

Move onto something else

This is weird

I don't know why it's such a common topic

[trim trout]

It wouldn't be tackling that! That's not allowed at all!

[twin ore]

Ambiguous sexual consent

[trim trout]

Virgin Mary lamb would be a solution

[twin ore]

Is introduced by power differentials

In the context of a brainwashing cult

[trim trout]

Then no sex at all! Just Virgin Mary

[twin ore]

Why is this so important to have

Can't we just avoid the topic altogether

This comes up a lot across the server

The developers clearly made their position known and said they had no plans for it

I can find and link to it if wanted

[wraith turret]

Mello, I know this topic makes you uncomfortable and I can see why since I am sensitive too, for this reason I suggest you to leave this thread if it triggers you

[trim trout]

Reviving a species nearly brought to genocide is the main reason why people want this tbh. Though we could also just have a lamb follower form

[wraith turret]

People can discuss about it

[twin ore]

This isn't a harmless thing to me at all

It's a red flag mechanic, plain and simple

No matter how it's approached so long as one participated is the leader and the other is the brainwashed follower

[trim trout]

This is a huge topic for a lot of people so if you're not open to discuss it I understand

[twin ore]

I'm going to step out now though, sorry

[wraith turret]

Do not worry Mello, a suggestion is still a suggestion and not all of them actually make it

[twin ore]

I just don't understand the obsession

This comes up a lot in many threads

I need to calm down; I'm sorry. I'll leave now.

[wraith turret]

Don't worry! Take a break!

Guys, I personally don't know about the Lamb entering the tent option, but something that could make it work would be the followers choosing if being okay with it or not, just as it happens with normal followers

[trim trout]

Or alternatively, virgin Mary with the spouse's blessing

[wraith turret]

Or alternatively, a special kiss

[trim trout]

And no altering factors for the follower decision. It has to be random

[trim trout]

That could be the blessing!

[wraith turret]

that too!

Or a follower (a spouse?) may give you a quest like "oh leader, I think we could have a egg, what do you think?" and a egg magically spawns

[trim trout]

Narinder is pretty much the only follower that could marginally erase the power dynamic if his quest is done, but the fandom treats him like he's mad all the time so I don't think people would appreciate that either

[wraith turret]

hecc the fandom

canon will destroy

[trim trout]

Yeah, the fandom likes that joke a lot fsr :(

He's proud of you if you finish his quests and he says he prefers lambs 🥺

Canon de-woobifies the bishops and crushes the grudges

[wraith turret]

I am part of the fandom who ships Narilamb but as I see at as Narinder being angry at the beginning but then he softens as the lamb shows him how cool is to be alive

idk

more like a enemies to friends to lovers

[trim trout]

More like friends to enemies to friends to lovers

[wraith turret]

yes

[trim trout]

He REALLY likes you at first!

Honestly can we just make it so Narinder is the only one to give us the egg and he says he just found it lmfao

Final quest dialogue

[wraith turret]

Narinder as mother mary in game

[trim trout]

Canon art canon art

[wraith turret]

canon

[trim trout]

And the fandom can just infer they made it off screen if they can't help themselves

Boom, everyone's happy

[wraith turret]

yeah

[trim trout]

Story ritual that can only be done once (costing 10 sin) where the Lamb creates a demon egg that incubates inside the temple. If the lamb kissed a spouse before the ritual then they have the ability to transfer traits. If not, random traits it is

I'm a genius, problem solved, tell the devs, finally a practical reason to kiss full-level spouses

It takes the most recent spouse kiss btw

[wraith turret]

I suggest you to put the ideas you liked the most in the suggestion's description

[trim trout]

And the child doesn't count as a follower

[trim trout]

Suggestion description?

Where's that?

[wraith turret]

My keyboard is broken

hmm

ah nothing

I thought you were the one who made the thread, mb

💀

[trim trout]

Nope, I was not

And there wouldn't really be a point in making a new one because it'd never get as popular

Honestly, it'd probably just be fine if the follower had to be the one to ask, given they're a spouse. If that's still too much then just do Virgin mary

No pressure

[ashen hamlet]

What is the difference with Virgin Mary? Never read a word of the Bible so I thought it was like Zeus' golden rain or something, which is super wonky... so is it that or what???

[trim trout]

I haven't either, but basically Mary just gets pregnant because God says so. So the lamb just kinda... Pop! An egg!

No sex, just egg

At least that's how the story goes, I'm not Christian

[slow dome]

Yes sex.

Sex minigame.

[ashen hamlet]

lol, but should it be like the drum mini-game, the fishing mini-game, or a new thing completely? /hj

[trim trout]

I just hope we get an egg with a spouse, idc how it happens. Blessing, sex, magic bullshit; as long as everybody's fine with it it'll be great

[lofty field]

idk how sexual relations would for a game rated t

[ashen hamlet]

The Sims 4

[lofty field]

oh i forgot about that game

[trim trout]

I'm back for like 15min, I've thought about it and realized that a spouse that asks the lamb to have a child with them would NOT be pressured by the lamb because they hadn't brought it up/hinted at it/discussed it with them at all and it would 100% be the follower's decision. Kinda already knew this but was afraid to put a foot out for it. Yes, there is a power dynamic, but power dynamics do not necessarily mean the relationship is toxic. In a situation where consent is completely within control of the lower rank and is communicated effectively, things can go well! Thinking about pairings like Fizz/Asmodeus, princess frog, etc.

And again, if it's still too much, virgin Mary

[ashen hamlet]

… that’s better, but you’re still asking your god to go in the tent. Virgin Mary type stuff + the ask makes me personally more comfortable tho

[trim trout]

That would be more comfy for some people, but other people would think that's pretty unfair. It's up to the devs in the end!

As for "god in the tent" we kinda already have that happening with the bishops and Narinder lmao. Wondering if there's a power dynamic there too? Either way, consent is clearly established with them

[lofty field]

🤯

[trim trout]

This would up the rating lmao

[ashen hamlet]

Sims 4, you can see that bed going-

[trim trout]

Or bush

Or rocket

Or any inclosed space

Honestly the sims got away with alot

[ashen hamlet]

True true lol

[trim trout]

I was never allowed to play it 😭

[ashen hamlet]

Rip, I got it when I was but a lil pre-teen

[trim trout]

I saw my cousin play it but she stayed in the character creator for like two hours

[ashen hamlet]

Honestly that’s the low end

[trim trout]

Then I watched one of those "I trap my sims in hell" channels and it was really funny until he decided to switch to shitty mobile games for shock value

Graystillplays, what happened to you man?

You used to be the king...

[signal glen]

Fell to the hands of the Youtube algorythm

[trim trout]

That's how the best go out 😔

[wraith turret]

Guys, actual sex in the game would destroy the pg rating so it's obvious it cannot be added

Also Zeus is a no no 💀

[trim trout]

Pretty sure they were just memeing

[wraith turret]

Just a heads up haha

[trim trout]

We getcha 👍

[fading crow]

yknow those things in games where it shows a different button and you have to mash that button as hard as you can

keyboard breaking simulator

button mashing

[ashen hamlet]

lol

[dull mantle]

This blew up in a wildly different direction than I was expecting. So as the one who kinda started this; ima step in and say;

Yall, its a silly game that people have grown fond over. Off course people want the lamb to be able to make babies because it fulfils that sweet ship or fantasy that they have in their heads and they're excited to know how such a mechanic might play out.

Yes this thread suggests giving followers some agency to reject the lamb because there are lines we try not to cross.

Is some sicko out there potentially going to use this mechanic to play out some sick fantasy? Yep. Is someone out there going to be uncomfortable with it? Yep, so dont use it and dont come into threads where people are excited about the mechanic for normal reasons.

It aint that deep peoples. Just tryna think of a fun mechanic that I'd like to see in game because aw cute narilamb babies.

[twin ore]

Some people may want to have a ship or fantasy involving incest in the game; that's not a good argument for allowing incest as a gameplay mechanic. Some people want to be able to a leader character be able to fuck their followers, and I think that's going into really uncomfortable areas of power differential abuse that involves sexual acts; the former group wanting to do it anyway doesn't make it right for the developers to implement and cross that line.

You may think it's fun, just like some people may think having incest as an option is fun; others and the developers given past responses of theirs think that some things are lines that shouldn't be crossed even in a silly game about problematic cults

[dull mantle]

Hey, no where did I say incest. I said some lines we don't cross. And I hope you don't take this as rude, but I will be blunt. This thread isn't for you. It makes you uncomfortable and it's not as serious as you're trying to take it. So I think it'd be best for your mental health to not engage further here, friend.

[twin ore]

No, me disagreeing with you about what kinds of abusive sexual content would be fine to have does not mean that I'm not allowed to participate in the thread. You can claim it's not serious all you want; it's still a massive power differential problem involving a mechanic with sexual intercourse at the end of the day. And I brought up incest because you tried to justify this mechanic as well just don't use it, no further critical thinking; I'm saying that allowing the option even if not everybody uses doesn't always make it's implementation an acceptable option.

[dull mantle]

Okay, I'm going to stop this right here.

This isn't about abusive sexual content. It was never about that. And if you feel uncomfortable, please leave the thread.

[twin ore]

I did take a break earlier. I'm back now.

It is. By its nature, it involves that.

Maybe you wish it wasn't, but that's not how power differentials work

[dull mantle]

If you continue this here, I will tag a mod.

[twin ore]

<@&353187254874931221> No need to threaten me; I welcome their input on this

I haven't violated any rules at all

I'll wait and see what they have to say

[dull mantle]

I have politely asked you to leave, this is not a place for such discussion after I have already clarified this is a thread meant for just the discussion of a fun mechanic.

[twin ore]

But not a two-sided discussion

[dull mantle]

Not one that involves delving it into matters of sexual abuse or power differentials, when it was never meant to go that deep. You are making this way too serious and trying to make it seem like I'm out to get you here.

[twin ore]

Only comments that agree with you and don't have a problem with certain lines being crossed. The mods should get involved here for sure; I think it would help.

[dry osprey]

Hey fellas

[dull mantle]

Hi Ghost

[twin ore]

You threatened me with moderators, so I'm fine with them coming in and giving a verdict or newer direction on this

If I violated rules, they can tell me

I'm not sure which I did but I'm open to any moderator direction going forward

[dry osprey]

Mello, I'm gonna politely ask you to maybe step awy from this thread again

Satan, another mod, earlier asked you to do the same

Right now it's sort-of like a repeat of what's going on

[twin ore]

I don't remember being told as an order

[dry osprey]

We're not ordering anyone

[twin ore]

Can you reply to the post so I see it?

[dry osprey]

It's a suggestion

[dull mantle]

You said you'd listen to the mods, so please, listen to the mods and everyone telling you to please step away

[dry osprey]

^^

[twin ore]

I appreciate it and I did take a break earlier

[dry osprey]

And now, I suggest the same thing to you

Again

[twin ore]

That's a suggestion, yes

[dry osprey]

I believe it is better for you to just not engage here and act like an adult about it.

[twin ore]

I'm not acting like a child when it's a topic that involves triggering themes

[dull mantle]

Thank you Ghost. Apologies for the drama.

[dry osprey]

I'd really prefer and like if you were able to do it

Hey, this isn't a "Thank You Ghost" situation

I'm just mediating a bit for all parties to step back

[twin ore]

If I'm not allowed to write more in here, then that's fine; just let me know

I'll respect any moderator orders

[dull mantle]

Noted.

[dry osprey]

Mello, this topic clearly is not one that you enjoy nor want to entertain

It is negatively impacting you and your joy of this server

I would suggest to stop interacting with it

If something brings you negativity, then do not allow that to fester.

This is a very strong suggesiton, I will say

[twin ore]

If it's at risk of being implemented in the game due to enough pressure, I feel obligated to keep speaking up

Some newer developer confirmation would help with this in general, I guess

[dry osprey]

That's not for anyone here to decide

From what it looks like from my view, is that you're kind of just speaking out at Tene a lot for this

Even though Tene has no say if this gets in the game

and is just suggesting it as an idea

[twin ore]

It wasn't just that I spoke against earlier

[dry osprey]

I am very well aware of what you spoke on, I've read the chat logs

[dull mantle]

If it's alright to add as well, its from an innocent place of suggestion. But maybe as well, if you feel so strongly, you make your own thread about the topic?

[dry osprey]

My final verdict is that I strongly reccomend that you stop interacting with this thread an similar ones like it

[dull mantle]

Then you can set that as the place of discourse if you wish

[twin ore]

A thread about not adding something that isn't already in the game?

[dull mantle]

Yeah, why not? It's a suggestion isn't it?

[twin ore]

Then there kind of aren't multiple sides to the discussion of red flag topics allowed

[dry osprey]

Please honor my decision, Mello, and stop interacting with this thread and similar others

[dull mantle]

It's not that there can't be discourse over these topics, but this is not the intention of this thread, so I would appreciate if it not be brought there or discoursed here.

Time and place.

[dull mantle]

Anyhow, to bring the conversation back to peace, yeah I think have a ritual surrounding immaculate conception would be funny lol.

Just suddenly egg. Makes you think maybe the followers are just randomly finding eggs in the mating tent and it's true what they say.

At most the babies look similiar and are influenced by their traits due to proximity.

Or I think having the lamb just self procreate would be fun, since you could still raise that child as a proxy of you and your spouse or assign a spouse to help look after it.

[signal glen]

im glad ppl like this but this is a big no no to me

defeats the despair from having your whole species wiped

i see the crown as making peoples genes messed up/unable to mix with mortals as a consequence

i think that should apply to lamb

no mating tent for lamb /j

still nice to see everyones ideas

very passionate i support your ways but not your idaa

[dull mantle]

Hm, would you just be a no to the idea of having more lambs, but yes to the lamb havin other abomination of nature kids? Lol

As in never truly being able to bring back the original lamb race.

[wraith turret]

It would be cool to have more lambs smh
Or catsheep 🥺

I'm sure there's a good way of making this possible without actually abusive situations

[dull mantle]

I think it'd be good to take in all the suggestions of going on a quest for it or having to work for it to happen, but also there has to be an air of ambiguity around it.

because i think trying to nail things down too much would have an opposite effect

But also catsheeeeeppp

[signal glen]

no more lambs, maybe to little abominations but i dont wanna watch lamb go into the mating tent

[dull mantle]

Maybe a ritual then

[slow dome]

I need a Narilamb.

And I need it now.

[forest pivot]

Sadly because of the lore I don’t think lamb followers will exist

But good idea

[pure rover]

I think it would be nice for The Lamb to start repopulating his species. It'd be some nice closure for post-game. I get why they'd want to keep The Lamb the last of their kind but I like this idea.

[signal glen]

same

[fading crow]

hey 👏 👏 all you guys

you want baby lambs?

go over here #1201657012329381959

i made a whole entire game for this exact desire

[bitter lagoon]

This is literally a game where you can practice cannibalism and drug-induced brainwashing, murder your followers for no reason, and regularly commit mass murder, as well as having the option to marry followers whether they want it or not, but suddenly people are up in arms about the idea of the lamb having kids??

Like, this is a CULT SIMULATOR, things are fucked up on purpose

I personally love the idea of our lambs getting to have a family after everything was taken from them, whether they end up able to repopulate the species or not (though being able to do that would be an extra plus)

And people also seem to forget that if you don't like an optional mechanic like breeding is/would be, you don't have to use it???

I don't like the cannibalism mechanic, so I just haven't taken the doctrine and don't use it. It's that simple.

I feel bad murdering followers, so I decline quests I get to murder anyone and then go do a bonfire to get faith back up. Easy.

But I understand that other people enjoy those mechanics, and that it's a video game that is meant to be silly and fucked up and fun for everyone, so I don't complain about them as long as they're optional.

If anyone doesn't want their lamb to have kids, they don't have to. I would like the option to give my lamb a family. I feel like they deserve it after everything they've gone through.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk

[dull mantle]

Yeah, not to raise the point again, but I completely agree, but I get that its easy to raise a fuss about an issue and forget other people are in a room you can just easily leave. And the room is a silly clown party room lolol. I say this as someone who can also be guilty of getting too caught up in such issues.

If the sims didnt ruin us, I doubt cotl will, minus the sleepless nights and impromptu excitement at new updates

Anyhow aside from the debate about bringing back actual lambs, I think most people just want the lamb to have a family which I think adoption would be really cute too. Haha like the sims 4, cotl dropped babies and people ask if we can do more with them. The parallels are funny

[bitter lagoon]

THANK YOU FOR THIS COMPARISON 💜💜💜

[wraith turret]

Imagine if lamb can only have eggs with special characters and there would be hybrids like catsheep, spidersheep, wormsheep and so on

[lean goblet]

A shat would be cool

[forest pivot]

Lore:

[somber frigate]

Everything this guy just said is a fact

Could not have said it better.
It's a video game, let people have fun.
It's also a suggestion, people shouldn't take these threads so seriously, period.

[fading crow]

but consent but this but that LAMB CUTE. BABY CUTE. LAMB + BABY = CUTER.

[somber frigate]

Exactly

[somber frigate]

I just want to make love to my beautiful husband narinder, because it would be really funny

[dull mantle]

Wormsheep sounds like an infection XD but aw imagine a lil lamb but the fur is all leaves like Leshy's. Basically a walking bush

[dull mantle]

Explain further 👀

[lean goblet]

Sheep and cat

[dull mantle]

Either the most adorable creature or the evilest little gremlin possible

[somber frigate]

It would be both

At the Same time

[dull mantle]

Gasp, you're right! The chaos of a catsheep. Just imagine it being the most frustrating follower; starting fights, stealing beds, but by gods it is so adorable XD

[trim trout]

It'd probably make more in-game sense if it was just a normal/demonic lamb that takes the other parent's color palette. Follower genetics don't really result in hybrids since they're all the same species

The child looking like more of an abomination if the lamb is paired with a normal follower would make sense though, given the whole "ichor and blood don't mix" theory

Bishop, twin, or mushroom children being more put-together would make sense in that case too!

[wraith turret]

Yeye!!

[forest pivot]

Lore

[night sundial]

i like to call them shittens

(sheep + kittens)

[lean goblet]

if someone didn't like shat i'd do that

[fading crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353186663905886208/1204942235460829184/image0.gif

[fading crow]

"dont really result in hybrids" try breeding ac at and a dog, theres actually a good chance you get a fox.

[lofty quest]

True. It would have been much more helpful before the level cap.

[dull mantle]

All the energy of a dog, but the sass of a cat

[trim trout]

Even if that happens in game, which sounds pretty cool btw, it wouldn't count as a hybrid according to speciation since it can also have kids. It's pretty clear "follower forms" and "species" are pretty different things!

I'd consider follower forms more like heritable traits than species modifications

[fading crow]

are you saying all followers are the same species

[trim trout]

According to nature, yes! They wouldn't be able to reproduce otherwise

[fading crow]

i

ok i guess?

[trim trout]

We can also change their forms ourselves so they might as well just be shapeshifters honestly. It'd explain the abomination eggs

[fading crow]

well in that case.

since bishops and followers can have kids

and the kids can have kids

that makes bishops and followers the same species

[trim trout]

Yep!

[fading crow]

and leshys dialogue states that bishops are just enemies that got promoted with the crown

so all enemies are the same species as followers

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[trim trout]

Idk about ALL enemies, but many of the enemies such as minibosses DO turn into followers

[fading crow]

SOZO CAN BE MATED WITH OTHER FOLLOWERS

[trim trout]

And some hooded ones have exactly the same build

[fading crow]

DOES THAT MAKE ALL THE ANTS INCLUDIG HIM THE SAME SPECIES AS THE BISHOPS ENEMIES AND FOLLOWERS

WAHRGH

[trim trout]

I'd say followers are like a default form/species that can be grown out of if you live past mortal years

Some creatures that WERE followers have more animalistic features

[fading crow]

this makes my brain hurt

[trim trout]

Like tails, extra limbs, etc

I feel like it'd be a good time to mention that'd it also make sense if followers were hermaphrodites since any follower can reproduce with any other and MOST of them go by they/them. Not all, just most

They/them would pretty much be cis equivalent actually which is interesting to think about

[fading crow]

Yeah

[dull mantle]

SCIENCE

[trim trout]

Science

[forest pivot]

Accurate

[trim trout]

Hey, does clicking the suggestion tab name bring up the amount of people who have BEEN on this post or does it just list all server members?

[spare sentinel]

This has a suggestion but I think a lot of people would go against it

I'm actually all for it

Although I wish either the chances of you getting the lamp followers specifically are rare.

For the chance that they'll even mate to be low even with the lustful trait (10%-11%)

[trim trout]

I'm for it too as long as the follower HAS to be the one to ask! Or if this is still too uncomfortable then Virgin Mary lamb ritual

[spare sentinel]

The idea of helping your species recover from mass extinction

[trim trout]

And you can only have one child so it's not too OP

[spare sentinel]

I don't think the Lamb's children should have any unique traits

I just think they should be basically regular followers

It's just that they're extremely hard to obtain

[trim trout]

Yeah, probably. It'd be pretty cool if they were special though

[spare sentinel]

Maybe it has to be a follower that you're married to

I also wish they would redo the marriage system

[trim trout]

Yep! And it's a 0% chance until they give you that quest

So no coercion, suggestion, whatever

[spare sentinel]

The one issue is that how would that make sense in game

Like with the lore

[trim trout]

It'll just be because consent is a mechanic and the Lamb shouldn't be the one to ask since there'd be pressure

[spare sentinel]

Why wouldn't your followers want to have your child if they've been indoctrinated or even born in your cult for so long

[trim trout]

We CAN want that, we just can't ask

[spare sentinel]

Maybe it could be the lamb itself doesn't want it and they're the one that rejects

[trim trout]

The lamb can still say yes or no!

[spare sentinel]

Or maybe the crown would forbid it

[trim trout]

And it's easy to get a spouse to have a quest since you're near them alot

[spare sentinel]

Or maybe the fact that you're a God would somehow make it hard for it to even work

[trim trout]

The crown probably wouldn't forbid it given the whole sin thing

[spare sentinel]

To be honest I think all bishops and narender should have a completely celibate trait

[trim trout]

Nah, there's no reason for that

[spare sentinel]

Well the difference is that it isn't your followers being the sinful once it's you

[spare sentinel]

I mean they're gods

[trim trout]

So? Gods can still have kids

Demigods exist

[spare sentinel]

And been gods for a long time that terrorized the population

[trim trout]

But they aren't in charge anymore so they can settle down if they want

And apparently they do

It makes sense

Though ichor and blood don't mix too well, their children are still healthy

[spare sentinel]

And now that they're defroned they probably don't have that many loyal followers especially inside the cult

[spare sentinel]

They're literally abominations

That's what even the follower form is called

But when it comes to physical health it's fine

The point is that if the celibacy doesn't apply to the bishops why should it apply to the lamb

In lore

I mean out of game then it could probably make sense because you're the guy that controls the lamb but it makes no sense in the lore

If you're going to make it very hard to breed with the lamb you should make it very hard to breed with the bishops

[trim trout]

I agree, it shouldn't

[spare sentinel]

So why not just let the regular mating happen.

I know people do not like the power different dynamic but in reality that applies with everything in the colt

[trim trout]

I mean I can think of the lamb having complications with their sexuality given a doctrine the bishops made for lambs not to reproduce in order to hunt them easier, but that's still open to healing

[spare sentinel]

Like if a follower doesn't breed with a follower that you want them to breed with you can still kill them because of that specifically and that still messed up

[trim trout]

Yeah! Which is why it should still be allowed, but there are ways to approach it carefully

[spare sentinel]

What

Why would the doctrine even apply anymore if all the bishops are defeated

[trim trout]

Idk man I just made that up

[spare sentinel]

And also why do doctrines physically change the beings that follow them

[trim trout]

It wouldn't, it would just be deep-seated issues

They don't change them, it's just like religious guilt

[spare sentinel]

I thought the reason for example the cannibal trait got rid of the sickness debuff is because it would be more normalized without it rather than the meat itself making them sick

[trim trout]

Many religions see intimacy as sinful, and that hurts the people that follow them

So if the lamb used to be under them, they'd probably have to heal some parts of themself

Still hypothetical lore stuff

[spare sentinel]

What

The lambs were not like put into camps

[trim trout]

Idk man you asked how it'd work in lore

[spare sentinel]

They were killed on site

[trim trout]

Yeah

[spare sentinel]

The problem is it just doesn't make any sense with the pre-established lore

To be honest it doesn't even make sense the lamb would keep the bishops alive

They genocided their species and hopes to prevent a prophecy

To be honest in character it does not make any sense on why the lamb would keep the bishops other than like a trophy to show their power over them

[trim trout]

What if a law came out before it started and the bishops didn't let the lambs know it was gonna happen. I mean, we are talking about master strategists that felled an entire legion of gods

[spare sentinel]

Where did you hear of that

[trim trout]

If they hunted the lambs while they still reproduced it would be much harder; Extinction takes prep work

[spare sentinel]

I never heard of the bishops themselves killing the gods I just thought they Rose above the ashes

[trim trout]

The lore tablets

[spare sentinel]

Oh

[trim trout]

New lore tablets in the update, the great fanatic guy

[spare sentinel]

I doubt the lands are extinct

Lambs

Besides the player character I just see it unreasonable that at least a very small percentage managed to hide

[trim trout]

They said there was one left and you can tell how many people are in your own cult via the crown

[spare sentinel]

How would they know that

Why were the lambs a part of their cult

I mean I guess I could make sense

[trim trout]

Same way the lamb knows exactly how many people they have

The crown

[spare sentinel]

But what about the lands outside of the old faith

[trim trout]

Idk if they care about that

[spare sentinel]

I thought that only apply to the people that worshiped you

[spare sentinel]

Why wouldn't they?

[trim trout]

Yeah, who said the sheep didn't worship them before this happened?

[spare sentinel]

The prophecy said a lamb would do it not that a lamb from the lands of the old faith

[trim trout]

They probably would if a sheep showed up, but they're also only focused on their domain

[spare sentinel]

I assume that the extinction took a concentrated effort of years

And it didn't happen in one full swoop like order 66

[trim trout]

We still kill followers that worship us so it could have taken years

[spare sentinel]

I doubt the lambs would be worshiping them while they're being massacred

[trim trout]

The bishops didn't even kill the lambs actually, it was the executioner

[spare sentinel]

Then again all followers are stupid

[trim trout]

According to bloody notes

[spare sentinel]

Well they're still sending them to die

[trim trout]

They could have thought the bishops would save them from them

Who's to say they knew the bishops sent the guy

[spare sentinel]

And I doubt that could be hidden for long even if they didn't find anybody if they would still notice Lambs would start going missing

[spare sentinel]

To be fair that I could make sense

I can start to see it

[trim trout]

Oh yeah, of course people would notice. But followers notice us killing people and still stay

[spare sentinel]

I think that's because of unrealistic programming

Gameplay actions does not necessarily mean lore actions

[trim trout]

Even so, this is all just hypothetical. There really isn't a canonical reason for the lamb to not want to reproduce until it's written in

Which it probably won't be since so many people want lamblings

[spare sentinel]

Maybe it can't

It would be a cruel irony that the last lamb alive was born sterile or something

It would give more character to the lamb themselves

[trim trout]

Though the lamb did look uncomfortable during the sin trailer, and they are the one who decides what is sinful or not

Actually, the crown says the lamb decides what's sinful

That means they consider sex somewhat sinful

So it IS a personal issue thing

Though sex doesn't fill follower sin bar, just the dancing

[spare sentinel]

I still am confused on why they would develop something like that

You would probably develop trauma from stuff like fighting and blades

Not for sex

To be honest I wish one day they focus more on the lamb individual character

And just because you think something is sinful does not mean you are unwilling to participate in it

[trim trout]

True, the nudist fleece exists

[spare sentinel]

God that is awful

So my idea is basically the lamb is sterile

[trim trout]

I just headcanon their flock was celibate filled and they're slowly getting over thinking intimacy is wrong

[spare sentinel]

Maybe the bishops poisoned water and food in order to lower their population

[trim trout]

I doubt the lamb is sterile. They wouldn't know that until they tried mating, which they haven't

It's definitely a personal ideology thing

[spare sentinel]

And even if they were set over that wouldn't stop them from doing it

[trim trout]

And even if they WERE sterile, they could still like sex, yeah

Crap I gtg

[spare sentinel]

Maybe they're sexless like Shamara

Okay see you later

[trim trout]

Good convo! Thank you for talking with me :)

[dull mantle]

I think they should at least have the child of lamb trait I suggested to prevent accidental inbreeding lol

[trim trout]

Well by the time any major update comes around, the devs would have already implemented a tree to prevent that. Idk if a trait is needed by that point

They are working on a system for it; genetic trees are hard to make!

[dull mantle]

Oh did they make confirmation of it?

I hope it doesn't slow down the game to remember all that info ><

[trim trout]

Probably not, it'll just be annoying to code

Variables and the like. Not assets

[dull mantle]

I do wonder does it slow down the game reembering all the followers you have

I know that removing followers from the ressurection list is a big ask people have been clamouring for

[unreal star]

ye we want to implement a proper family tree at some point

[dull mantle]

Thanks for the confirmation

[somber frigate]

I will sex narinder

Because funny

[night sundial]

i think the lamb should be allowed to enter the tent with a spouse, and just like how the followers have the choice to say no (meaning the whole percentage thing on likelihood to mate).

but, i dont think they should get an egg from it. its sad, but i do like the idea of the Lamb being the last of their kind. adds weight to the story, in my opinion. but i do think spouses should get a full level up from mating with the Lamb, like a better "kiss spouse" action. and there can be a cool down on it.

of course, this is all just an opinion and an idea

as much as I'd like to see little shittens running around, i don't think that request would be granted 😭

[dull mantle]

It's still nice to speculate and think about how it would work uwu

Lil shittens just destroying everything

[slow dome]

Allow babies to make a huge fucking mess.

[trim trout]

They already do tbh

Also

I highly doubt they meant multiplayer since two's pretty low

But a demon child

Whoever screenshot this did a terrible job censoring the name

[fading crow]

theres tons of multiplayer games that only use 2

[trim trout]

Yeah, but I'm hopeful lol

[dull mantle]

Might be local splitscreen

[trim trout]

That'd be pretty cool, but I think something akin to animal crossing multiplayer would be better

Mixed with a bit of crusading maybe

[dull mantle]

You have to buy one switch each to have two cults XD

[fading crow]

youd still have multiple save files but lambs from other saves can visit other saves cults offline

and you can use codes like ac to invinite online people tot hem as well

[dull mantle]

And there's a 5 minute wait time for all the dialogue to happen

[outer spoke]

alternate way to make more lambs

is to craft a cloning machine

requires 100 gold bars

also requires sin

than you can breed with yourself

(its not incest if its a clone of yourself)

(its you)

[jaunty loom]

bump bc low activiy

[dull mantle]

lil bump since I remembered this xD

[twin ore]

Please do not mention my name here; I was asked by moderators before to not comment in this thread anymore and it's not fair if I get talked about but can't reply

I'm aware that I am ironically commenting again this one time, but it's justified in this instance and is a request going forward

[outer spoke]

👍

[dull mantle]

Gonna boop this since the new updates comin XD

[rigid lynx]

Please don't bump threads if you're not adding anything new to the dialogue

It clogs the system for newer suggestions

[dull mantle]

Oops sorry! Just wanted to highlight the system idea again.

[rigid lynx]

It's fine, just avoid bumping it is all. If it's here it's been seen even if not commented on you see

Better to let new things get some limelight

[gritty harness]

Now that goat is coming we can also lay down with them too? And it has an chance of the child being a full lamb, full goat or a hybrid known as geep which is rare but the hybrid child will always have the celibate trait due to hybrid animals being more likely to be either infertile or have low fertility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep–goat_hybrid

This is a thing in irl as well

[thorny zephyr]

sigh due to previously discussed yadda yadda you get it

[dull mantle]

I just want their baby to be a car lol. The pun

[fading crow]

the goat is
another player

that would be

strange??????????????????????????????????????????

[trim trout]

Came back to say you were right, gj

[glossy ledge]

We could make a lamb baby to repopulate the lambs or let there be a new campaign in the storyline where the lamb isn't the last lamb

[twin ore]

As long as the other lamb isn't part of the playable lamb's cult so that there isn't a power imbalance

I'm not opposed to the potential of there being another lamb out there. I mean we already have a goat from a parallel world or the like, so there could even be other cult leader lambs by that logic.

[twin ore]

I didn't even know that these existed but they're cute. Not sure that a family would extend beyond that though for the same reason that mules can't reproduce.

[glossy ledge]

Ok

[gritty harness]

Unless there will be a quest implying that some big groups of lambs (and goats) managed to escape the mass slaughter by fleeing and exiling to other worlds and some other universes via portals; however they aren’t allowed to return even if the old faith is destroyed due to their remnants are still on loose unless a miracle happens

And the lamb will eventually find a lamb and goat follower form near one of the hidden portals the lambs who escaped had left behind