Original art by COTL dev team
#Cult of The Lamb: The Fallen Faith (an AU Discusion thread)
lament ginkgo
Heres the additional ones
lament ginkgo
@flat willow
flat willow
OOO
lament ginkgo
flat willow
Omg I really like these
flat willow
OOO, so is the rabbit your favorite one? :0
lament ginkgo
Yes
The others are actually up for adoption
Not here though
I'm only giving them to friends on my server
Which isn't an open server so
flat willow
I think the cow one is probably my personal favorite, I love cows lolol
lament ginkgo
@royal olive
royal olive
ah yes, Erasure, if yall want i can dump info of the bishop who owns said crown
i think yall would find her entertaining, as she is commonly referred to as "The Mother of the Eternal" or just "The Eternal Mother" despite her theme of erasure by what her crown suggests
lament ginkgo
Go ahead
royal olive
curious on f the others wanna hear actively or not
royal olive
ah
reef solar
I like those crowns!
lament ginkgo
The events of the base game are pretty much the same (post game stuff is where the story really changes)
But the few changes in base game story are as follows
Right before you fight each bishop you first must fight their vessel
Then you may fight the bishop after defeating the vessel
You also do not kill the bishops in this au but rather you beat them up and take their crown (each Crown having a specific ability from the 4 you unlock with the hearts of heretics)
After you defeat the oww is when the story changes
With the 4 Bishops of the Old Faith and TOWW weakened 4 new Bishops swoop in to take control
thorn estuary
i made my own cult leader
lament ginkgo
It is then that the 5 vessels put aside their differences to defeat these horrible bishops who wish devastation on the world
thorn estuary
It is then that the 5 vessels put aside their differences to defeat these horrib...
ok
lament ginkgo
i made my own cult leader
Respectfully, this thread is for my au and discussion about it
thorn estuary
oh sorry
thorn estuary
i see your drawings so started drawing this
lament ginkgo
The Lamb returns the crowns to the other vessels and they band together to take the bishops down
But first they had to deal with the new bishops' vessels
Upon defeating the vessels they snap out of their brainwashing and join your side, once the respective bishop is defeated the vessel takes the crown
In the end the vessels decide to rule the land together, ensuring peace and safety for everyone
There is one more part of the story however it is not mine to tell
But rather it is @royal olive's
What do you all think?
I also have a few small fun facts about the different characters (mostly The Rabbit)
lament ginkgo
I like those crowns!
Thx i actually have abilities i came up with for them, like how they affect your cult
Fear causes a follower to be scared into leaving the cult (this is preventable as the follower will only leave a day after you come back from a crusade)
Affair causes a follower to descent
Poverty takes 50% of your coins
And Fatigue makes followers tired
I also made an ability for TOWW and Leshy
TOWW can make a follower elderly
And Leshy makes a follower "angry"
"Angry" followers break structures causing them to need to be repaired
reef solar
Yeah, I like that story, I can see it being the story for online multiplayer or something lol
lament ginkgo
Eventually if angry for too long a follower will descent
lament ginkgo
Yeah, I like that story, I can see it being the story for online multiplayer or ...
Yes!
Lmao
I love that idea
And the crown of erasure... Well
Makes a follower perma die
reef solar
Yeah especially with the addition of new bishops. Sounds like a no-brainer for new content
lament ginkgo
(you do get to choose which follower perma dies)
The new bishops' have a polar opposite gimmick
reef solar
ooo
lament ginkgo
So like for example
One of the new bishops' injuries is that they lost their eyelids
So they can't close their eyes
reef solar
brutal
lament ginkgo
Representing the opposite of seeing no evil
They are incapable of not seeing evil
And Erasure... Well ill let @royal olive explain that once they are on
So yeah
The new bishops' themes are a theme of doing, seeing, hearing, speaking, and thinking evil
Or maybe perhaps we could say
Doing no good
reef solar
I really like the parallels
lament ginkgo
Yes
In fact most of the vessels actually parallel their crown
Rabbits are chaotic because they multiply a chaotic amount (thats probably pushing it im sorry)
This is a stretch but The deer represent famine bcs of the Yellowstone Wolf incident
The cow represents pestilence bcs theres a couple diseases that are named after cows
The Cod represent poverty because its sort of symbolic of poverty cuz if you were stranded on an island you'd likely fish to survive
And the chicken represents fear because we tease people who are scared of something by calling them chicken
reef solar
I never realized it was so deep, you did a really good job with this
lament ginkgo
I also limited the vessels to being animals humans commonly hunt and eat
Heck even the lamb from the base game represents the crown it has (the crown of death)
reef solar
Yeah plus humans don't seem to exist in the main universe
lament ginkgo
Because of the phrase "Lamb to the slaughter"
And lambs are often used in sacrifice
reef solar
Yeah, lambs being sacrificial animals (among others like cows)
royal olive
Ech-
lament ginkgo
Hi DJ
lament ginkgo
Would you like to describe Erasure's part in the story
We have someone who's really interested in the au
royal olive
Ooh! Yes I'd be glad to, the bishop of Erasure kind of takes place of Death, or well, Narinder, a thing she'll do to punish those who don't follow peace is have her underlings take away a cultist, basically making them vanish for good...issue is she can't do that very well as she takes well, place of being Narinder, but what she did is take most senses from the others except for one, and she still sort or follows that
lament ginkgo
I never realized it was so deep, you did a really good job with this
Honestly most of the parallels were incidental, i completely didn't intend them
reef solar
I love when stuff works out like that
royal olive
But the bishop of Erasure is a crow, and she is called "The Eternal Mother"
Despite her whole theme or the end, she's actually very sweet, and I have it planned once she finds her new seer, she brings them to basically beg for freedom and mercy
reef solar
Interesting
royal olive
The whole most senses being taken is meant to be similar to the original bishops, where there is "see no evil" "hear no evil" "speak no evil" and "do no evil", but in a way they're somewhat opposites, most senses damaged except for a major if their senses aren't completely taken away
Malice, the bishop of Erasure begging for freedom and mercy is kind of a "do evil" in contrast to Narinder...not to mention she basically crippled four entities she saw as her own children
She'll rattle and move in her chains as much as she can despite basically being crucified by the chains from how I see it, but the vessels are fully required to be faught to free her, as they have chains that bind her aswell
I might actually try to draw a scene of her chained up at some point to show what it would look like, and there is little concept for her seer/vessel
And similar to Narinder, she has figures at her sides, four instead of two, or at the least there will be a third
reef solar
I'd actually love to see a comic series or something of these events
royal olive
Actually that is genius-
lament ginkgo
If i actually had the motivation to do that i probably would
reef solar
I feel that
royal olive
Oh yeah scary fact about Malice, she is HUGE, and there is a cute fun fact aswell
lament ginkgo
Thats fatigue
royal olive
Can i say the one cute fact?
lament ginkgo
Fatigue is constantly tired bcs he can't sleep due to lack of eyelids
lament ginkgo
Can i say the one cute fact?
Sure
royal olive
While not exactly canon there is a concept of Malice being married to Shamura-
Mainly the marriage concept thing existing between me and another friend who I don't think is in the server lmfao
lament ginkgo
There's some things we are still workshopping
Like mainly the appearance and name of the 4 new Bishops
royal olive
Yeah
reef solar
Death and erasure being married does sound poetic
lament ginkgo
||one idea i thought of is Fatigue being Haro due to an unused animation Haro has||
royal olive
No Shamura is War, aren't they-?
royal olive
Yeah
lament ginkgo
Cuz war causes a lot of death
What we do know for sure is that Fear is a snake
And affair is a Lion
Wait
Actually
Hmmm
Maybe
We should swap them
meager mist
Make the vomit green crown as a joke
royal olive
Also there is a concept of Malice being wounded aswell because of Narinder, that being ironically her wings are damaged, the wings having their bones ripped out, so supposedly she cannot fly
She infact still can fly, and it's terrifying
lament ginkgo
Oooh i have so many ideas
lament ginkgo
Maybe we need to reconsider the new bishops' animal types
reef solar
Not a bad idea, first drafts often aren't the best
lament ginkgo
Cyz i kinda want to make The Fox and Haro a new bishop
royal olive
Yeah
lament ginkgo
The Fox being either fear or affair cuz foxes are often used as a symbol of deceit and danger
meager mist
Cyz i kinda want to make The Fox and Haro a new bishop
It would make sense for Haro, but I won't talk about why as it's datamining
reef solar
I kinda feel like the birds aren't meant to really interfere with the godly affairs short of giving advice...and weapons
meager mist
Data mining talk ain't allowed
lament ginkgo
It would make sense for Haro, but I won't talk about why as it's datamining
That was my exact thoughts
royal olive
But Malice does treat everyone with kindness, which is surprising for a towering bird like herself, cause she looks like she'd happily eat the other bishops, but nope, treats eight of them like her kids and Shamura and her are married lmfao-
lament ginkgo
Actually perhaps
reef solar
Odd for Malice to be nice now that I think about it
lament ginkgo
Instead of it being the fox it could be a relative of the fox
royal olive
It's actually meant to be a poetic play on how those who accept the end aren't actually super hostile nor mean
lament ginkgo
Odd for Malice to be nice now that I think about it
Its not if you take into consideration her beliefs
Exactly
reef solar
No I mean them being the representative of malice
thorn estuary
@lament ginkgo bro i say hi to you
lament ginkgo
Shes all about letting people live there life to the fullest and not being afraid of death
lament ginkgo
No I mean them being the representative of malice
Thats her name not crown type
lament ginkgo
<@464507231627509780> bro i say hi to you
Hi
royal olive
She is only known as Malice as ironically that's her last name, her first name is not to be revealed, but her representation is End or well, Erasure
lament ginkgo
Gud
thorn estuary
well me too
thorn estuary
i thinking to draw
lament ginkgo
I think I want to go with Lion Fox and Snake as 3 of the 4 Bishops
We can figure out which one is which later
royal olive
Yeah that would actually work, maybe the 4th being something subterranean, like a mole?
reef solar
Snake bishop fight would be cool, it could strike from across the stage
royal olive
Yeah I was thinking of that for the snake one
lament ginkgo
Midas as Poverty would be so Ironic!!
reef solar
YES
royal olive
Honestly thinking of the snake being a rattlesnake so the rattle would be an audio que type of thing or visual que- and yeah that'd be cool!
lament ginkgo
We are so doing that
royal olive
Absolutely
lament ginkgo
As well as the Fox who i decided will be Affair
reef solar
Heheheheh
royal olive
Also I can explain why Malice is a crow
lament ginkgo
We need to give The Fox a name besides The Fox
royal olive
Should I explain why she is a crow-?
lament ginkgo
Apatolos
royal olive
Ooh that's a funky name for the fox
lament ginkgo
A fusion of Apate god of deception and Dolos god of trickery
royal olive
Nice
lament ginkgo
The snake can be Asclepius
royal olive
If we ever have the characters refer to Malice by full name at some point I think it'd be a good idea to actually think of it, or keep her complete mystery of not having a first name lol
lament ginkgo
And it will be fear
lament ginkgo
If we ever have the characters refer to Malice by full name at some point I thin...
Yeah
That means the Lion is Fatigue
royal olive
And knowing her bonds with the characters, the only one who would fully refer to her by her actual name would have been Shamura
Also that's ironic how the Lion is fatigue, when lions typically represent strength
...anyways imma actually explain why Malice is a crow-
lament ginkgo
Go ahead
royal olive
Crows can be seen as a mysterious sign of death sometimes, aswell as freedom actually in some religions, so before her imprisonment she would basically represent the freedom the end brings, freedom from trauma, freedom from pain
lament ginkgo
I love that idea
We have to figure out the lions name but first
Who wants to hear some small fun facts about the vessels
royal olive
There is also still the fact we have yet to figure out the chosen vessel of Malice...actually what if it was a dove-?
lament ginkgo
Yes!
Absolutely
It would make sense for malice to break the theme the vessels had of being commonly hunted and eaten animals
royal olive
Could be because it's a major sign of her inevitable freedom, and doves are also a sign of peace usually
lament ginkgo
Anyways small fun facts
The vessels each have nicknames (of which i will most likely refer to them by here on out)
The Rabbit's is Charcoal
The Deer's is Venison
The Cow's is Buttercup
And the Pig is Hamlet
The other bishops don't have nicknames yet
royal olive
The Dove might be called "Hero" simply, as it's both a title they own and its still technically a name too
lament ginkgo
Charcoal often bows or kneels as a sign of respect towards someone (often Leshy)
Venison is mute, having sacrificed their vocal chords to prove their worthiness of the Crown of Famine
lament ginkgo
Buttercup has poor hearing, only able to hear loud noises, this is also a result of a test of worthiness
thorn estuary
Buttercup has poor hearing, only able to hear loud noises, this is also a result...
ok
royal olive
Buttercup I believe could be hard of hearing in similar case of Kallamar- okay so i was right lol, with Hamlet being easy to distract maybe to reference something not right with his brain
solemn gulch
Original art by COTL dev team
Dear deer friend
lament ginkgo
Hamlet is a bit mentally unstable, having given up some of their sanity for proof of worthiness
solemn gulch
Also Nice art
lament ginkgo
Buttercup I believe could be hard of hearing in similar case of Kallamar- okay s...
Actually i like that better
thorn estuary
Hamlet is a bit mentally unstable, having given up some of their sanity for proo...
bro
i sayed something to you
lament ginkgo
<@464507231627509780> i just finish a drawing
Show me in dms
royal olive
Hero might not have anything wrong, if anything he could have something like heightened reflexes, as proof of them just already being worthy of being a seer by their symbolism of kindness and maybe even was killed from a heroic act but Narinder sent them over to Malice
lament ginkgo
I think I'll combine those ideas
thorn estuary
Show me in dms
ok
lament ginkgo
Hamlet gave up some of their sanity and attention span
thorn estuary
Hamlet gave up some of their sanity and attention span
i just send you something in dms
for you
royal olive
Really sanity would hinder attention span anyways-
royal olive
But do you like the idea of Hero actually not having anything wrong, and infact has something improved?
lament ginkgo
Bad memory, a little dumb, short attention span, a little crazy
lament ginkgo
But do you like the idea of Hero actually not having anything wrong, and infact ...
Yes
royal olive
It could also be a weird thing where it feels like a bit of a defect aswell, referencing what was wrong with Malice, but it didn't hinder her at all, likely just slight numbness in the wings
lament ginkgo
And meanwhile the lamb literally sacrificed their soul
royal olive
Which actually would make it easier to fight cause the wings wouldn't actually be a weak point anymore
lament ginkgo
The Lamb has no set morals until later in the story
As their power slowly helps them reclaim their soul from TOWW
The Lamb has multiple nicknames in my au btw
royal olive
I do like the whole idea of the Dove and them being the whole leader of this worldly reclaim I suppose?
lament ginkgo
Lambchop, Lampert, Lamby, ect
royal olive
Like it just feels really oddly cool, thought that everyone also has different fighting styles
lament ginkgo
Yes
Lampert prefers swords
Charcoal prefers axes
Venison prefers daggers
Buttercup prefers gauntlets
And Hamlet prefers hammers
royal olive
I actually thought of a thing of Hero having to get through a series of tests aswell, might be that he also prefers polearms, like spears and glaives
Like the test actually either conducted by Narinder or Malice herself
lament ginkgo
The Chicken prefers the dual sickles
The Cod prefers the trident
The Bison prefers the Halberd
And The Moose prefers the Whip
Spear for The Dove
royal olive
It might be the four in the Old Faith call her "Mother Malice"
While Shamura just refers to her as Malice or maybe something more closely referencing the fact they are married lmfao-
lament ginkgo
Ye
reef solar
A lot to catch up on rn but from what I read, sounds cool. I like Malice being a dove instead
royal olive
No that's her seer- not herself-
She herself is still a crow, but the vessel/seer is a dove
lament ginkgo
Introducing the dove
lament ginkgo
Cult of The Lamb: The Fallen Faith (an AU Discusion thread)
thorn estuary
Wow
lament ginkgo
Venison is a shy and nervous guy
He also has a sensitive neck so he wears a scarf instead of a collar
Buttercup is a sweet and caring lady
Hamlet is a goofy clutz who will absolutely destroy you if you piss him off kinda like a slasher in a horror movie where the slasher is actually quite clumsy
The vessels that were brainwashed actually have 2 personalities one while normal and one while brainwashed
Cody The Chicken Is normally a very arrogantly brave dude but under the bishops' control is a terrified nervous wreck
Christopher The Cod under the crown's control is a snobby rich bastard who in his battle insults your weapon & curse and gives you another of your choosing (only based on weapon type like axe or curse type like blast) thats a higher level. Normally though he's actually a quite generous guy
Marcus the Moose is normally a very loyal person and once entering the biome under affair's control he's actually not brainwashed at first and joins your team. But midway through the dungeon Markus takes a blow from the bishop aimed at the player causing him to become brainwashed and used as the vessel of Affair, he then betrays the team
And finally Brutus the Bison
Brutus is normally very energetic, like if you gave an adhd kid candy and let it run rampant, but under the bishops' control he's so fatigued he can barely stay awake in his boss battle, falling asleep on occasion during it leaving openings for attack
loud talon
I had an idea of a cotl oc but it happened to be a fusion of two of Charcoal's oc's on accident.
I had no clue these oc's existed until no so sorry bout that. here he is btw.
He represents feel no evil, emotion.
loud talon
I also have a thread about him if you wanna see more, its called "the sixth crown."
royal olive
Oh yeah, should I show the sketches of all the Seers in my style here?
@lament ginkgo what do you think, should I tease some of the more complex designs?
lament ginkgo
Ye
lament ginkgo
<@464507231627509780> what do you think, should I tease some of the more complex...
It's only fitting that charcoals the one that we tease
And hero too
royal olive
that is fair
i think i could tease them in one image- lemme check though before i even tyr
try*
yep, these two gonna look awesome
lament ginkgo
Im excited for when we can share the full thing
royal olive
May "the hero" save her sorry soul.
tough to see but this is a lore drawing for how the scene with Hero meeting Malice would look
i was given permission to show it of course
lament ginkgo
Charcoal has a little snail critter companion
Also charcoal may or may not have feelings for Leshy (this is not 100% canon as of rn)
However the Lamb and Narinder are def a couple
reef solar
tough to see but this is a lore drawing for how the scene with Hero meeting Mali...
Interestingly enough, with the info I'd been given on the AU I actually guessed that's what that scene was
And I love how the crowns alter the personalities of the wearers when being controlled by the bishops
lament ginkgo
Yeah
I need to get Charcoal's personality down
Id say off duty he's a cuddly softy but on duty he's probably very serious and tough
reef solar
Well, maybe a bit of a trickster too since green crown
lament ginkgo
Cuz that's kinda how I've been portraying hin
reef solar
makes the whole camp eat poop one day
lament ginkgo
As long as it is controlled Chaos
Like it doesn't go too far
That's why he's actively against the new bishops' order of chaos and suffering
Because it crosses the line of what he considers as fun Chaos
royal olive
May "the hero" save her sorry soul.
.
royal olive
@severe storm oh yeah, Malice isn't actually evil btw-
severe storm
Oki
just like
an interaction
between 2 bearers
one is against erasure
Like
a natural hate for it
royal olive
sure she sounds evil, but her betrayal was for the war that the Great Despair was waging
but that is reasonable
Malice actually hates what she has to do to save the world
severe storm
👍
Wait so does Sentient (The Crown Bearer) just have a natural hate for Erasure
I am confused
I am more confused then my gramps with memory loss
royal olive
Malice still mourns the wounds she gave the others of the Great Despair actually, so it makes her unabl to see really well
royal olive
hollow lake
I had an idea
The Bishop of Life
Where there is death, there is life
Where there is destruction, there is creation
loud talon
Do any of your crowns allow them to come back to life @lament ginkgo?
like when they’re martyred
Because I figured that’s a red crown only thing
since the whole “god of death” thing
royal olive
actually Malice does a somewhat similar thing, if you are a patron to the chaos and destruction she was trying to end, she will force you to sacrifice a follower, that cannot be revived via normal means, but she allows you to take them back if you're actually promoting peace
might have it be you can take other followers from within the garden if you haven't sacrificed anyone to her for a punishment technically, and basically she offers the new follower as a reward of the promotion of peace
loud talon
is that going to me or someone else?
royal olive
its a response to your question, im glad to be able to be on standby on occasion for questions lol
loud talon
Oh i was asking because I have no idea what this means
Im having trouble understanding is all
royal olive
Malice's crown allows her to bring people back from permadeath pretty much
royal olive
oH-
it might be a thing that is an ability for the Lamb, like if a bearer dies, the Lamb has a "blessing" to revive the others
but for game reasons if we make it a mod, after the players leave the crusade the others are revived at the grounds or i might just describe it as base
loud talon
but for game reasons if we make it a mod, after the players leave the crusade th...
this specifically
i understand if the idea isn’t fully there yet
you dont gotta answer
i was just askin
royal olive
for game logic, its like a thing where the crusade is treated as a dungeon, thus players if one dies, if one cannot revive them, they have to wait for them to return to the cult for an automatic revive
loud talon
so its like reviving teammates in a fps when downed?
royal olive
yeah pretty much
loud talon
ok i get it now
makes sense
wait
actually nvm
i wont bother u with any more abstract questions
thx 4 the help
royal olive
pfft, its alright, and the stuff i say might not be final even, but they are good ideas that i might talk to charcoal about for further written imformation
loud talon
well my last question is, how do they logically come back with the auto revive?
like who does that for them?
royal olive
might be Narinder himself reviving them once the remaining return to keep them all grouped together
loud talon
so this isn’t post cotl?
Because narinder wouldn’t be tied to them at all
he prob wouldn’t care
loud talon
im sorry
royal olive
there are actually several reasons he'd be helping, but i don't want to sound rude..
royal olive
one is being well, Malice, he sees her as a motherly figure, so he's helping to save her
loud talon
this is how debates/discussions are
loud talon
one is being well, Malice, he sees her as a motherly figure, so he's helping to ...
?
I need to read into this more
ive gotta be missing something
whos malice?
royal olive
Malice is the bishop of Erasure
and she is locked away in the time that Fallen Faith takes place
basically this is like a case of History repeating itself, one Bishop from an ancient group betraying their other four, but for Malice, there is good reason, which is the others of the Great Despair as her group is called, they were trying to tear everything apart to put the remains together in a way only they rule and make everything suffer
hollow lake
Idk how to make a crown 😅
lament ginkgo
We should put the areas here
royal olive
yeah that is a good idea
lament ginkgo
Okay
Im not feeling lazy anymore so
Imma talk about the new Dungeons
Fear rules over a desert known as Dreadwaste
Dreadwaste is home to Chilli Pepper crops and Cactus plants (Chilli being the biome crop and Cactus being the special material which is also plantable)
The grass is replaced by dead bushes which drop a new material for this au which are sticks, they can be refined into lumber
Poverty rules over a Beach known as Goldshore
Goldshore is home to Coconut trees and Pretty Sea Shells
The rocks are replaced with solid gold that drops gold nuggets when destroyed
Affair rules over a snowy tundra known as Frostwake
Frostwake is home to Lettuce crops and Permafrost Ice
Remains there will also drop follower meat
And before we get to the next area I must explain a few new materials
Stone Pebbles occasionally drop from rocks alone with the regular stone, the pebbles can be refined to make Stone
And alongside gold theirs 2 more metals that are used as currency and materials
Silver and Bronze
They work exactly the same as gold but would be used for different things
Now that that's out of the way
Our final area is ruled by Fatigue, it is a cave known as Quiet Cavern
Quiet Cavern is home to Wheat and Obsidian
All rocks in Quiet cavern are embedded with one of the three types of metals and will drop Stone Pebbles and the Nuggets of their respective metal
In my au i wanted to make it so that each of the materials used in the refinery had 3 stages to refining
This is the refinement table
(To clarify x5 only refers to the amount you get from refining the first stage into second, ignore x5 for refining second into third)
hardy lance
lament ginkgo
And I am happy to announce i have the first follower for all of the vessels designed, I'm just waiting for my co-writer to approve of the designs before I post them
lament ginkgo
Boom
royal olive
Might actually give the first cultist for Erasure the name Eileen, and she is technically described as an elder but not an actual elder lol
lament ginkgo
Charcoal's is named Julian
lament ginkgo
I have updated the crown of poverty
I decided it was too similar to the crown of fear
So
lament ginkgo
Fear was a little too goofy so i redesigned that as well
hollow lake
What about a crown for time? Imma work on that
Just wanna ask if it could fit
don't wanna undermine the lore already built
hollow lake
@lament ginkgo how's it sound?
lament ginkgo
eh
hollow lake
What about a crown for time? Imma work on that
this
The Bishop of Time, how does it sound @lament ginkgo?
lament ginkgo
i dont think it would fit
lament ginkgo
Updated Erasure
hollow lake
any changes you suggest?
I think a way it could fit is that everything, death, erasure, famine, plague, war, happens with the passage of time
lament ginkgo
Colors not attributed to one of my crowns part 1
lament ginkgo
Colors not attributed to one of my crowns part 2
lament ginkgo
Midas head concept
lament ginkgo
Asclephobos, Bishop of Fear
Midas, Bishop of Poverty
Apatolos (Fox), Bishop of Affair
Dionypheus, Bishop of Fatigue
Dionypheus head concept
lament ginkgo
Uhhh to keep the thread open have the new charcoal design courtesy of Catfish
rose cave
Nice
lament ginkgo
Heres a fun mini game
Guess the crown silhouettes without any reference
Do not look at any posts above
hollow lake
Imma use a compass to say which I is which
Where should I reply to this
In here?
I don’t wanna spoil the fun
lament ginkgo
I don’t wanna spoil the fun
Dms
opaque socket
bro this can literally be a DLC or a Cult of the lamb alternate history game easily
royal olive
pfft
lament ginkgo
Yes
lament ginkgo
Crowns HQ
lament ginkgo
Inverse Crowns (concept)
The concept behind inverse crowns
Is that they represent the exact opposite thing
And are kind of like an ultimate power version
green current
very cool work, my boy
lament ginkgo
When dying in my au people will leak a black tar from their eyes and mouth
Basically their bodies get filled with black tar during the process of dying
This black tar is vomited out if the person is revived
Basically an explanation for the revival animation in game
rose cave
Looks a bit weird
lament ginkgo
Ik
royal olive
we usually try to go for more realistic things for reference images on things so yeah, forward facing foxes look funny either way
lament ginkgo
Backstory time
The Rabbit was the runt of his litter, his family didn't really treat him well because of it... And one day he ran away from home
He ran deep into Darkwood
For weeks he had to survive cold and alone until one rainy day Leshy found him
Leshy took him in, gave him clothes, and gave him a gift... A gift that he would forever hold dear
lament ginkgo
strong bough
cool
lament ginkgo
More crowns may be coming to the au
With @royal olive's approval i shall start adding the crowns ive made to the thread
lament ginkgo
Poverty updated
lament ginkgo
Behold, Batch 3 of Bishop (or their crowns at least); The Bishops of The Grand Authority!
The crowns in order are:
Misfortune, Despair, Incalescence, Pollution, and Isolation
And alongside Batch 3 we have Batch 4; The Bishops of The Holy Compassion!
rose cave
Behold, Batch 3 of Bishop (or their crowns at least); The Bishops of The Grand A...
The grand authority you say?
lament ginkgo
The crowns in order are:
Apathy, Naivety, Drought, Judgement, and Insanity
royal olive
Oh that's actually cool how we're basically creating whole pantheons-
rose cave
like greek mythology or the norse mythology
lament ginkgo
The Bishops of The Great Despair are the oldest
Fun fact The Bishops of The Old Faith are ironically the youngest bishop group
Second Oldest is The Holy Compassion and Second Youngest is The Grand Authority
royal olive
Actually it would make sense the Great Despair is the oldest especially if they have Malice
rose cave
yeah
lament ginkgo
Now for some LORE on the crowns
royal olive
Malice IS the oldest of every bishop ironically, as she basically more just represents the lack of something
rose cave
Yay!
lament ginkgo
The Grand Authority is from a far off land where the Bishops all ruled with an iron fist, often mistreating their subjects
rose cave
makes sense
lament ginkgo
But the 5th bishop, Isolation, didn't approve of their siblings cruelty and went rouge
royal olive
Actually would this mean Erasure gets a name change for the fact that Malice represents nothingness pretty much-?
rose cave
But the 5th bishop, Isolation, didn't approve of their siblings cruelty and went...
me likey that
lament ginkgo
Unlike most rouge bishops however Isolation didn't become bound in purgatory
rose cave
Actually would this mean Erasure gets a name change for the fact that Malice rep...
i would guess erasure is the process of going to nothingess
lament ginkgo
But rather Isolated themselves in hiding, planning how to usurp their siblings
rose cave
the crown of isolation isolated themselves, how unexpected
royal olive
I mean yeah, so it does still fit, but the odd thing is the fact that she is basically the first of them ALL
rose cave
hm
royal olive
As she is "the eternal mother" for a reason
lament ginkgo
They reach out to the vessels from batch 1 and 2 for help, and they happily agreed to help as they wanted to bring peace to the world as well
rose cave
i'm not really up on the whole lore, i only know parts of it. So imma write that down
royal olive
Alright
lament ginkgo
Now for the lore of batch 4
royal olive
But yeah, Malice is the first of the bishops, maybe for the lore of the first she was the one who crafted the crowns?
lament ginkgo
Long ago in a land relatively close to what is now known as The Land of The Old Faith there were 5 bishops
These 5 bishops were very caring and kind to their subjects
Until one day when the 5th inherited their crown...
drifting wagon
lament ginkgo
That day they became the Bishop of Insanity, They began to do unspeakable acts of violence, the other 4 had no choice but to lock Insanity away
For eons Insanity sat bound their bloodlust growing...
opaque socket
Bro how many Crowns this au haves? It's like undertale XD
But good au xd
lament ginkgo
One day Insanity had the idea to send their crown off to find a vessel, this vessel was a follower of the group of vessels that had been rising to power and godhood
rose cave
Bro how many Crowns this au haves? It's like undertale XD
But good au xd
it has about two pantheons of crowns
lament ginkgo
It was then that the vessel had warned our heroes of bishops of a nearby land who had "cruelly and unfairly locked their own sibling away eons ago"
rose cave
undertale aus are still popular?
opaque socket
undertale aus are still popular?
Y e s
rose cave
wow
lament ginkgo
Our heroes ventured to this land believing that they were setting out to fight a bunch of cruel and evil gods, only to realize once it was too late they'd been duped
And thats the basics of the story
lament ginkgo
it has about two pantheons of crowns
4
rose cave
4?
lament ginkgo
Each batch is a separate pantheon
royal olive
Specifically how basically they all became bishops
lament ginkgo
The Grant Despair considers each other as a found family
royal olive
So they are not related by blood, but do prefer to see each other as family
lament ginkgo
Malice being the closest thing the other 4 have to a mother
One day Malice found the 20 crowns in an Ancient Palace
She took the crowns and hid them away for 3 groups of 5 worthy siblings to find, she took 5 for herself and her family as she had felt them calling to her
She had claimed the crown of Erasure and crowned her family as well
royal olive
I was more thinking less of the claimed crown being she chose it, but it chose her.
So Erasure itself picked her as it's bishop pretty much
Which possibly hints to all the crowns being sentient if this is fully how it went down
lament ginkgo
That's pretty much how it works for the crowns but ye
royal olive
Oh right- awa
lament ginkgo
The crowns aren't chosen, they choose the wearer
lament ginkgo
Which possibly hints to all the crowns being sentient if this is fully how it we...
They're canonically sentient so ye
Like they blink and emote in game
royal olive
Could be the first sign of them being sentient but no one of that time knew
lament ginkgo
Yeah
royal olive
But yeah, Malice is also the only bishop with a full name as I remembered-
lament ginkgo
Also with new bishops comes new vessels/crown bearers and with new vessels/crown bearers comes their preferred weapon
royal olive
For Malice, technically her and Hero have different weapons, Malice herself has a glaive, while Hero has a spear
royal olive
One might be called "the dark crown" to contrast with the fact that Malice's crown is referred to as the pale crown
lament ginkgo
Rn the only ones i have color names for are Misfortune, Despair, Pollution, Isolation, Drought, Judgement, and Insanity
lament ginkgo
One might be called "the dark crown" to contrast with the fact that Malice's cro...
Malice's crown is also referred to as the white crown
royal olive
That sounds weird especially for it being the first-?
lament ginkgo
Isolation could be both the dark crown and the black crown
royal olive
The white crown might be a lesser known nickname for Erasure, as the pale crown sounds much more imposing
Thus the others of the great despair could use this to manipulate their own followers into thinking Malice is a bad person, by strictly referring to her crown as the pale crown
lament ginkgo
If the white crown thing sounding weird is because of race stuff
I understand but like
The crowns don't have anything to do with race so no one should draw any connections to it
rose cave
hmmmmm
lament ginkgo
But yeah
royal olive
It just generally sounds goofy in a strange way
lament ginkgo
I can see how the pale crown is more ominous
royal olive
Like calling the crown the white crown, no one gonna take that seriously lmfao
reef solar
I disagree that no one would take it seriously, but pale crown does sound more imposing. "white crown" or "crown of light" or something can be what they call it when not trying to slander it.
lament ginkgo
Misfortune is The Lime Crown
Despair is The Magenta Crown
Pollution is The Seafoam Crown
Drought is The Cyan Crown
Judgement is The Gold Crown
And Insanity is The Brown Crown
lament ginkgo
I disagree that no one would take it seriously, but pale crown does sound more i...
Exactly
royal olive
I disagree that no one would take it seriously, but pale crown does sound more i...
That is fair, but I feel like even Malice herself calls the crown the pale crown, but i guess purely out of preference for how serious it sounds
reef solar
"pale" kinda also implies weakness hmm
lament ginkgo
Btw Incalescence if you don't know refers to extreme heat
royal olive
Actually how would that imply weakness-? Just curious about that one-
reef solar
Ruby and scarlet are pretty much the same color tho right
royal olive
I mean..her weakness would possibly be she's too caring compared to the rest of her pantheon, being basically the only one that'd be considered down to earth
Even enough so she actually willingly married someone, cause I do remember the thing I had where her and Shamura are married in this au lol
So her weakness is basically her heart?
lament ginkgo
Ruby and scarlet are pretty much the same color tho right
Ruby is pinker and Scarlett is more orange
lament ginkgo
So her weakness is basically her heart?
I like that idea
reef solar
Ahh I see
lament ginkgo
Apathy could be the indigo crown
royal olive
May also be depicted often too that she has a good heart, maybe there being a mural somewhere with a pale heart over her chest
Could actually exist within one of the others areas or even seen in Shamura's area, lamenting the loss of Malice
lament ginkgo
Yes
royal olive
Would also closely show just how genuine the love is between Malice and Shamura, with Shamura barely seen when Malice has been locked away as the rest of the old faith probably worry cause of how new this isolated behavior is for Shamura, not even stepping out unless it's something related to Malice..probably doesn't even do much even then cause how greatly poor Shamura is grieving their own loss
lament ginkgo
Then Narinder betraying them all probably made their isolation even worse
Another crown wheel
royal olive
Oh god, they probably had to convince poor Shamura this would help find a way to save Malice before Shamura contemplates their life pretty much if that's how the timelime goes
rose cave
Another crown wheel
why are four of the crowns in the middle?
royal olive
But I was kind of thinking she was sealed shortly after Narinder was broken free but defeated
lament ginkgo
They are The Exiled
rose cave
oh
lament ginkgo
But I was kind of thinking she was sealed shortly after Narinder was broken free...
Ohhh okay
royal olive
So basically, with them all freed from purgatory, maybe Shamura tries to go see Malice but sees she's nowhere to be found, but it told she was a "monster" by the remainders and wounded of the great despair and it basically throws Shamura into a depression
royal olive
Oh-
reef solar
Good call
royal olive
Still, could be once the whole issue is solved then Shamura goes to find Malice, only to see her cult in ruins and she's nowhere to be seen
lament ginkgo
The Mystic Seller does however appear still to warn the lamb and other 4 vessels of The Great Despair Rising to seize control
After narinder is defeated
rose cave
i heard seller
royal olive
Pfft
lament ginkgo
Still, could be once the whole issue is solved then Shamura goes to find Malice,...
Yes
royal olive
And still, the whole thing of the rest of the great despair telling them that she was a supposed monster, when Shamura would see through the lies, probably even fully aware Malice would never try to hurt anyone without good reason, probably just pushed them all away before running off with anything they could save of the cult if there was anything salvageable
lament ginkgo
Btw
We should also start talking about
The places you can visit from the cult grounds
royal olive
That is true-
lament ginkgo
Like pilgrim's passage and such
I for one think one of the areas should be where the mushroom dealer resides
rose cave
i heard dealer, im here again
lament ginkgo
Maybe you'll find him in Despair's area (fitting since the Bishop of Despair is Mycelia who is a mushroom) and he'll tell you about his area
Perhaps his area could be one of the areas that uses exclusively bronze or silver as the currency
Or maybe even uses all 3 coin types
royal olive
I'd say maybe by the pentagram you can visit Malice's area, either the ruined cult or where she is chained
lament ginkgo
There, you could buy different mushrooms and mushrooms seeds other than menticide
royal olive
Probably would be painful to see her chained up as I remember she literally has the chains piercing her skin-
Like the chains I very well remember go entirely through her legs-
lament ginkgo
Perhaps in malice's cult area someone has put up a business
royal olive
Yeah maybe
lament ginkgo
Perhaps selling ancient relics and decorations from her cult
royal olive
Could be a good place to get plants too as she did like growing a lot of plants
lament ginkgo
Maybe you'll find this person in Poverty's area
royal olive
Yeah
lament ginkgo
The person you find in Fatigue's area will show you a Mine area where you can buy a bunch of gem and metal based decorations
royal olive
Thought of a thing too like the shop cycles through items or if you somehow get everything you can run over to Malice's old cult grounds and see them throwing things around, trying to find things of value ffrom the grand wreckage
rose cave
Perhaps in malice's cult area someone has put up a business
i am interested
lament ginkgo
Thought of a thing too like the shop cycles through items or if you somehow get ...
Lol
Okay next idea what should Fear's area unlock on the map
royal olive
The very sad thing about it is I was also thinking the place has a lot of bones lying about
So like, definitely shows the cult died trying to protect Malice herself maybe
lament ginkgo
Ooh actually before we move to the area fear unlocks
Maybe one of the mushrooms the mushroom dealer sells is one that can be used in meals
rose cave
i can do research on mushrooms if you like
lament ginkgo
Or perhaps multiple mushrooms for more advanced mushroom dishes
rose cave
imma search up the different types
lament ginkgo
Oh btw
With droughts addition to the au
I felt it necessary to add something to the cult's needs
Hydration
You'll need to be able to keep your cult hydrated with some new buildings, one allowing you to produce water and another that works like the kitchen, where you make drinks for your followers
Drought would cause followers to become dehydrated
And to help with hydration
Fear's unlocked area is a desert Oasis filled with fresh water
Sorry I've been referring to the orange crown as fear despite me changing the name to Neurosis
Anyways
Deception's unlocked area will be a snowy village where you can buy items to help cool followers down
Because
Incalescence also introduces another follower need
Temperature management
Unlike most bars the temperature management bar is a thermometer that you want to keep in the middle
If the bar is too low followers will get hypothermia
If the bar is too high followers will get hyperthermia
Incalescence can mess with the temperature of your cult
By either taking the heat away or bringing more heat
This can be dealt with using meals/drinks decorations or buildings
Each meal and drink is assigned a temperature value
Hotter meals and drinks will increase the temperature meter where as cold meals and drinks will decrease it, there are also meals that are of neutral temperature, these meals do not affect the temperature meter
This may seem like a lot to manage but that's kinda the point
Having to manage an entire groups needs wouldn't be easy
However the easier the difficulty setting the more manageable it'd be
And there could be some accessibility features that would make it easier
Anyways I'm pretty burnt out on ideas for now
So the other merchant areas, Dungeon themes, Vessel forms, and Bishop forms will come some other time
rose cave
i have done my research
lament ginkgo
Since the au's content has literally doubled
We went from 10 crowns to 20, so I'll need time to come up with ideas
rose cave
vc is going crazy right now
royal olive
Yeah
lament ginkgo
Pog
rose cave
nahhhh
thin bison
✅
lament ginkgo
And Leshy makes a follower "angry"
Instead of this
Leshy will curse a follower
This follower will slowly begin to disfigure and have plant life grow out of it sometimes even parts of their body will turn into plant life
After a while the follower will die turning into some form of plant life this follower would be unable to be revived
The only way to combat the curse is to perform a new ritual, "Ritual of the Curse Lifter"
lament ginkgo
They aren't cute
lament ginkgo
Uh ok I should probably get back to concepts... Actually I'll do it tomorrow, I've got a lot on my plate today
green current
@lament ginkgo i can enter the AU like the red Crown?
lament ginkgo
No
green current
lament ginkgo
The lamb is staying
green current
Narinder replaces the Lamb whit me :v
lament ginkgo
I forgot to do concept work damn
Its fine
Here uhh have charcoal's canon Sexuality and gender identity
lament ginkgo
Gay Demiboy
lament ginkgo
Look it up
lament ginkgo
All right
I must start working on some ideas
First let's work on the bishop forms
Lets start with Misfortune
What kind of creature should Misfortune be
I would have said black cat but narinder is already a black cat
Actually
I think I'm going to halt progress on the 3rd and 4th waves for a bit
They're still going to be in the AU
But I just won't be working on them for a while
We still have to get the story down for the second wave of crowns
Once that is done then progress on those can resume
For now let's hear about the intro to the second act of the au
@royal olive care to do the honors
royal olive
"Wake up, little dove.... A great power is against the world.... Complete these trials, and you will meet with the Eternal Mother... The pale crown begs for mercy, You are its... "Hero." if you succeed.."
I used a funny cause well, this is heavily important-
lament ginkgo
This line of dialogue is spoken by narinder
royal olive
it should be a little clear with the speech cause i think i got it accurate with how he speaks-
lament ginkgo
Ye
Also I thought of a character dynamic for charcoal and the lamb
Charcoal in the first act is probably the most spiteful towards the lamb
Upon the second act when they have to work together they probably don't get along very well at first
Charcoal begrudgingly having to put his differences aside for the sake of the world
But eventually he warms up the lamb realizing that he and the lamb aren't so different
royal olive
oh yeah- we also do have an idea to make a comic out of this-
lament ginkgo
Yeah
It'll probably take a while
And work won't start until we have all the redesigns of the first 4 crownbearers (lamb not included)
And each act will probably have a hiatus in between
So that we can get the story down
thorn prawn
rancid violet
All this au stuff is very cool :]
royal olive
Thank you! We've been working on this stuff for a bit
fresh swallow
I think the crown of the affair should go to an animal who...
is fast in life.
No, not a mayfly!
a cheeta!
what do you all think?
fresh swallow
Or, what animals..or..crowns could i take?
lament ginkgo
None of you can take crowns
This is me and Hero's AU (and Mycelia)
Also it's no longer called the crown of afair
Its the crown of Deceit
But a cheetah could definitely work for one of the crowns in batch 3 or 4
lament ginkgo
Nice
green current
My AU is named : The Forgotted Faith
lament ginkgo
Forgotten*
green current
Forgotten*
thanks, im little fool in grammar 
lament ginkgo
Its cool
fresh swallow
give me a randon crown, and it's animal. I'll draw it to the best of my abilities.
The ones in the middle are the outcasts or the exiled, right?
@royal olive please give me a random crown and it's vessel to draw.
royal olive
I'm not having a good time at all right now...
rose cave
Oof, why?
royal olive
To say the least I'm trying to get out of a goddamn abusive school while I'm bawling my eyes out..
rose cave
I wish you the best of luck
royal olive
They're fucking denying my age goddammit..
rose cave
dafuq
royal olive
They're doing terrible shit to have a fuckin 17 year old curled up in a corner crying...
rose cave
How the fuck can a school do so much wrong?
royal olive
I really shouldn't be fuckin venting here but I fucking hate this school, the staff have physically abused me
rose cave
My DMs are open for you if you want to
green current
give me a randon crown, and it's animal. I'll draw it to the best of my abilitie...
whait... where is my crown? :l
fresh swallow
I really shouldn't be fuckin venting here but I fucking hate this school, the st...
Hero, please give me a random animal to draw as a vessel
royal olive
uh...maybe an owl vessel?
could be an attempted vessel for Malice but was hiding in fear of being slaughtered by the Great Despair, plus admittedly Malice has been seen to have multiple vessels before, actually before she had three
royal olive
Hero, please give me a random animal to draw as a vessel
what do you think?
fresh swallow
just a vessel with a crown. Could be buttercup, could be the crown of erasure herself.
wait, are they a dove or crow?
i forgot.
but do a random number
royal olive
the Bishop of Erasure is a crow, the vessel is a dove
Hero doesn't actually have a confirmed gender though as a fun fact
lament ginkgo
just a vessel with a crown. Could be buttercup, could be the crown of erasure he...
Do need a redesign for buttercup
royal olive
Yeah, which I am still working on all those designs
fresh swallow
ok... on it.
is it ok if i add scars of some sort?
they have the crown of pestilence on them, so they could have...tumor scars?
fresh swallow
Here they are. Buttrcup's remaster. I figured that they should probably have the abitity to breath underwater ecause of anchordeep's disign...
yeah, im an idiot.
fresh swallow
why not?
lament ginkgo
Its not... That good (design wise), she looks like a normal person, plus the colors and patterns aren't going to change
Just the clothes type
royal olive
Hey, I appreciate it! May not be the best but it's still nice! I do know Charcoal did honestly come off as rude in text, but I assure you he likely meant no ill intent
And honestly I can understand the white lines a bit when it's really dark colors over each other, with the brown fur and the dark blue background
fresh swallow
the concept was before they were taken in by the lamb.some clothes gaven to them by kallamar. i tried to make them bright colors but i thought "hey they're underwater, they're clothes should be wet, darkening the colors." so thats where i came to the picture/
I know im not doing much, but i hope i gave some ideas!
royal olive
In all honesty, it gave me the concept of Buttercup possibly having a dress in blue and greenish colors possibly, even if it's not clear where I get the dress thing from
fresh swallow
In all honesty, it gave me the concept of Buttercup possibly having a dress in b...
i can see how a dress would be more dymanic underwater.
restive cargo
Don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it
lament ginkgo
Hey, I appreciate it! May not be the best but it's still nice! I do know Charcoa...
Yeah, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to be rude/gen
royal olive
Don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it
I do not think you wanna piss off the Eternal mother/lh
fresh swallow
Yeah, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to be rude/gen
it's ok!
lament ginkgo
Posting to make sure this doesn't die
fresh swallow
Posting to make sure this doesn't die
who should i draw next?
royal olive
If you want you can try to draw Hero, technically his "fleece" is more of a fancy..technically a dress aswell? But sort of lacking sides, I forget what it's called but I know it has a specific name probably, but he uses his wings like a cloak sometimes until battle begins
fresh swallow
post!
royal olive
Yep
fresh swallow
changed them up a bit.
royal olive
oh- didn't expect an edit type of thing, but still cool, the red bell gives me the concept of their neck shackle being modified by themself- possibly with a form of brooch or well, gem addition
fresh swallow
I feel like i this comes in comics, the 3rd eye always looks directly at the reader.
severe storm
Can I have all crown names?
I want to write down descriptions of their possible fleeces
royal olive
im unfortunately too tired to do so right now, i might see if i can try and get Charcoal to send them over, either that or i can try to pin the messages with all the bishop crowns
lament ginkgo
Can I have all crown names?
I will het it
Chaos, Famine, Pestilence, War, Death, Neurosis Poverty Deception, Fatigue, Erasure, Misfortune, Despair, Incalescence, Pollution, Isolation, Apathy, Naivety, Drought, Judgement, and Insanity
fresh swallow
neet.
severe storm
Chaos - A green fleece with a fire like pattern in white on it. Has a fire symbol at the neckline.
Famine - A short orange fleece with circular like pattern on it. Has a bone at the neckline.
Pestilence - A light blue fleece with a weird green bubble pattern on it. Has a bubble at the neckline.
War - A dark purple fleece with a splat like texture on it. Has a skull a the neckline.
Death - A Red fleece with skulls on it. Has bell at the neckline.
Neurosis - A dark magenta like fleece with a realistic heart on it. An eyeball at the neckline.
Poverty - A dark yellowish fleece with a broken half of a coin pattern on it. A coin at the neckline.
Deception - A bright yellow fleece with with an eyeball pattern on it. A changing item at the neckline.
Fatigue - A slightly grey fleece with a small holes in them as a patteren. A cut bolt at the neckline.
Erasure - A completely white fleece with no pattern. Nothing at the neckline.
Misfortune - A dark green fleece with dead clovers sprouted on it. A sprout at the neckline.
Despair - A black fleece with no pattern. Has a broken bone at the neckline.
Incalesence - A warm orange with a sun like pattern. A moon at the neckline
Pollution - A very dark green with multiple holes in them. emits smoke. A cloud at the neckline.
Isolation - A Very dark grey close to black. A lock at the neckline.
Apathy - A light grey with a decaying look. A decaying bone at the neckline.
Naivety - A light orange color with that covers the whole body. Sparkles at the neckline.
Drought - A dry texture and a sandy like color. A sand symbol at the neckline.
Judgement - A light brown fleece with a glass like texture. A gavel at the neckline.
Insanity - A changing colored fleece with massive holes in it. A mind at the neckline.
severe storm
Achievements for defeating the crown bearers (IF THATS A THING)
Chaos - Order
Famine - Sate
Pestilence - Cure
War - Peace
Death - Life
Neurosis - Thinking or Calm (Neurosis means Obsession or Anxiety)
Poverty - Wealth
Deception - Truth
Fatigue - Energy
Erasure - Redo
Misfortune - Fortune
Despair - Hope
Incalescene - Cold (Incalescene means warmth or something)
Pollution - Cleanse
Isolation - Communication
Apathy - Enthusiasm
Naivety - Enlighten
Drought - Hydration
Judgement - Irresolution
Insanity - Sane
.
BTW this is an IF
Massive IF
fresh swallow
@severe storm pick a random fleece, any fleece.
fresh swallow
is it ok if i do beaver brown? (#9f8170)
fresh swallow
can someone remind me of the pantheons?
royal olive
I like the bubbles on the fleece idea, gives a pattern to the dress concept :D
fresh swallow
I like the bubbles on the fleece idea, gives a pattern to the dress concept :D
what are tthe pacts of gods again?
royal olive
There are four of them, the Great Despair, the Holy Compassion, the Grand Authority, and then the Old Faith
Basically going from oldest group to youngest group
fresh swallow
I remeber tthe crown wheel..so i'll go off my mind.
chaos, famine, pestilence, war, death in the old faith...
Nerurosis, Poverty, deseption fautige erasure in the great dispair...
Misfortune, dispair, incalescene pollution, isolation,in the holy compassion
Apathy
Naivety
Drought Hydration
Judgement Irresolution
Insanity...
i dont remember.
lament ginkgo
Chaos - A green fleece with a fire like pattern in white on it. Has a fire symbo...
Chaos fleece already exists but these are pretty nice
Achievements for defeating the crown bearers
Chaos - Order
Famine - Sate
Pestilence - Cure
War - Peace
Death - Life
Neurosis - Bravery
Poverty - Wealth
Deception - Integrity
Fatigue - Energy
Erasure - Creation
Misfortune - Luck
Despair - Hope
Incalescene - Temperate
Pollution - Purity
Isolation - Communication
Apathy - Enthusiasm
Naivety - Knowledge
Drought - Hydration
Judgement - Approval
Insanity - Sensibility
lament ginkgo
Chaos - A green fleece with a fire like pattern in white on it. Has a fire symbo...
Colors need major fixing here
But i like the ideas for it
lament ginkgo
severe storm
P a i n
fresh swallow
which crowns in what panteon? im getting even more confused...
jade monolith
that's alot of crowns.
fresh swallow
20 in total.
jade monolith
To be honest. Going after those who wield the crowns and gathering all 20 would be too difficult
royal olive
Great Despair has Erasure, Neurosis, Fatigue, Deception, and Poverty i think
Holy Compassion is Naiveity, Judgement, Drought, Insanity, and Apathy
Grand Authority has Misfortune, Isolation, Despair, Incalescence, and Pollution
And Old Faith is War, Chaos, Death, Famine, and Pestilence
fresh swallow
To be honest. Going after those who wield the crowns and gathering all 20 would ...
it would be good when you're bored.
fresh swallow
Great Despair has Erasure, Neurosis, Fatigue, Deception, and Poverty i think
Hol...
thank you!
royal olive
no problem! i had to kinda look up in the thread but i got it just fine
jade monolith
i'll say. yea.
jade monolith
Still, 20 crown bearers in total that outside Lamb having The One Who Waits’ crown. That would mean having to fight a total of 20 bosses
fresh swallow
sometims it feela like that.
royal olive
I mean, at the very least you fight a weakened version of the oldest bishop known aka Malice, after defeating the rest of the Great Despair, trust me if she actually did stuff with her actual powers the fight would be impossible admittedly
But for sure she is a spike in difficulty
thin bison
So many crowns to add to my collection
thin bison
What crown will I do next
jade monolith
Fine. Let me at those bosses!
thin bison
I made the judgement crown but it’s very bad
wintry canopy
What is this AU about?? I just found this thread and I'm very intrigued
lament ginkgo
I made some of your crowns
Woah!
lament ginkgo
What is this AU about?? I just found this thread and I'm very intrigued
Well at first it was just an au where each of the Bishops had their own Crown bearer
Now there's an even more complex story with new Bishops and crowns
We're using this thread as a way to start developing some of the story
And maybe one day it'll become a comic
royal olive
Yeah! Also great to see you here finally Nomad
fresh swallow
quack?
versed ermine
Thats Multiplayer 😭
royal olive
It's basically multiplayer with lore
wintry canopy
I am hungry for lore
jade monolith
same
royal olive
yall gonna adore what we got in store
i really wish we could pin stuff in this channel actually-
lament ginkgo
yall gonna adore what we got in store
I genuinely forgot what we had in store
Like what were we currently planning
royal olive
Charcoal how did you forget-
restive cargo
I say double the crowns
double it and give it to the next person
lament ginkgo
I say double the crowns
Nohohooo
That's too many 😭
20 was a struggle as it is
Coming up with unique colors, eye shapes, crown designs, and things for the crowns to represent
restive cargo
Coming up with unique colors, eye shapes, crown designs, and things for the crow...
gimme a list of colors, i also need to color-code characters in my comic for.... reasons
id tell you but that be an entire paragraph taking away from your art
thin bison
That’s the neat part just steal them from other crowns
lament ginkgo
That’s the neat part just steal them from other crowns
That, is something I'd never do
Despair is the only exception of that bcs it's design creator said they'd be honoured to have their crown featured (and they're now an official member of the project)
Other than that i want these ideas to be my (and the co-writers) own ideas, any other ideas would only be either used for inspiration or if they were made specifically for us to use