pvp

[jolly fjord]

taunt would be better than mega taunt

dont have clach or scintherus?

[dusky ibex]

I can craft the electric dog

[shut ivy]

Ye do 8t

It

[high canopy]

Then use maremotus instead of alaroc

[dusky ibex]

Talent?

The one in malairon saga?

[high canopy]

Yes

Use phase shield if u have

Otherwise u can go with health gene also but phase shield>health gene

[dusky ibex]

I don't get it

[high canopy]

?

Phase shield is the one in malairon saga

It's applies positive effect protection for 3 turns, evasion for 2 turna and heals when hp below 50% after being damage by skill

[dusky ibex]

Ah now I get it

Sorry i'm very dumb

Thx for the tips

[primal harbor]

H o w

How did I survive that

[copper spoke]

Because you used 2 new generation mythics and the enemy had 1 legendary, 1 epic and one uncommon?

[primal harbor]

Ah.

My bad then, I blanked out on that.

[weak anchor]

LOL

[heavy leaf]

[oak plover]

Imagine Aloe Death vs Phyreas

[copper spoke]

Imagine Posidonia vs Phyreas

Phyreas insta kills his team

[raw skiff]

[hardy gorge]

DoTs

[gray kelp]

someone actually managed to pull off Lupono-whatever-his-name-is as a turn transferer

would’ve lost if the dark elf’s ai targeted the right guy

[gray kelp]

favorite pvp names Pt.1

[hollow stump]

Lol

[marble maple]

My defense is good or bad

I used monk for stamina eater and i put him 3 lvl 7 runes And spammable ancient monk And visiel for blind and uriel for ressurct and clens

[gray kelp]

do you have any tank monster?

[marble maple]

Phyreas Influxer

[summer zealot]

change uriel to atttack team in defense u already have 2 ressers

[dusky ibex]

And torture cleaner

[marble maple]

I dont play much pvp Bc i put my best team in df team

[dusky ibex]

If I reached L2, I can post a screenshot on role request to get a new role?

[high canopy]

Yes... U can even post for LIV or LIII

[high canopy]

But you will have to post screenshot or ur profile where it shows ur name and stuff like team etc and then the ss of ur previous and best tournaments

[dusky ibex]

I already know that but thx

[rain tendon]

Hit

[jade fox]

What should I use as my attack team? I can level up stuff if needed also hatching a swamzoad and i got a kralik egg i could start hatching

[tardy cipher]

Shadow mag and armour claw

[dusky ibex]

Well, my current defense is lucky clint, garny and uv fusion cause I don't have many options

[ashen wadi]

Who asked lol

[dusky ibex]

Sorry

[ashen wadi]

lol its fine just wondering why ur saying

[dusky ibex]

didn't read correctly

[ashen wadi]

Oh ok

Just gonna resend the message to people might see it

Can anyone make a defense and offense out of Cupid, Elvira, Uriel, Atum, Serpentex, and one other monster

[shut ivy]

Elvira serp and tum offense that's what ima use and defense cupid uriel and galvanus

Atum

[ashen wadi]

Anyone besides Galvanus? Bc i have to do a lot of work on him in RUSD

[shut ivy]

O ye u could do sparkus with seven sins

Or like shadownya it's one of the more competent ai extra truners

@ashen wadi

[ashen wadi]

Sadly i dont have shadownya bc of wifi issues during 30% discount

Sparkus maybe i have him a bit higher lvl than Galvanus

[shut ivy]

Ye but Elvira serp and atum is cracked

[ashen wadi]

It should be

[heavy leaf]

eh

serp makes atum useless, and he'll probably be everywhere in pvp

[ashen wadi]

True

But not on defense necessarily

[shut ivy]

F2p players

[ashen wadi]

Not in top 100

[shut ivy]

Everyone using serp on offense anyway

[ashen wadi]

Ya

[shut ivy]

Cupid on defense

[ashen wadi]

Yep

[heavy leaf]

don't count

[shut ivy]

Sandstorm blocks perfectly which atum has

Pierce

[ashen wadi]

Rly?

[shut ivy]

Ye

[ashen wadi]

Wowwww

That is amazing

[shut ivy]

One more reason he's to op

[heavy leaf]

well

[ashen wadi]

What runes will i run on Atum?

[heavy leaf]

it only blocks pierce from being applied

[shut ivy]

2 life 1 ts

[ashen wadi]

?

[ashen wadi]

No strength?

[heavy leaf]

also what are the odds atum gets a turn in before a pierce attacker

[shut ivy]

Eh if u have serp no need

@heavy leaf true

What rank serp yall buying

@heavy leaf @ashen wadi

[ashen wadi]

Prob R3

[heavy leaf]

r0

[shut ivy]

I'm getting r0

If I want to get atum to

[heavy leaf]

I got shiva r3 super fast so I'm confident this'll be easy

[shut ivy]

Ye

[shut ivy]

I'd say 2 life 1 ts

But idrk

[ashen wadi]

Ok

[high canopy]

Is atum not a tank?

[heavy leaf]

he is

he's an attacker tank I believe

[ashen wadi]

With solid attack skills

[ashen wadi]

Yep

[high canopy]

Oh

In leaks he had permanent mt and damage mirror, hope it's a typo

[ashen wadi]

Yep

Not a typo

[shut ivy]

True I'd say life 1 strength then

2 life

[ashen wadi]

Yea prob

[shut ivy]

@ashen wadi what rank u rn In pvp

[ashen wadi]

Currently 70th

[shut ivy]

Zamn

What team u doing @ashen wadi

[ashen wadi]

Uriel+Cupid+Elvira

All R5

[shut ivy]

Ts on Elvira

?

[ashen wadi]

Yea

Elvira:
Uriel:
Cupid:

Except the runes on cupid are just X not SX

[high canopy]

If it's not a typo then I'll quit this stupid paywall game

[ashen wadi]

Are you serious rn? Pierce goes thru borh the damage mirror and the MT he is rly easy to counter with Cupid

[high canopy]

I don't have pierce lol

But still they releasing such a op mon for p2p

As usual

[ashen wadi]

That is your fault

[high canopy]

I agree cuz i don't grind this stupid game for tales and mazes as i cant afford to miss my sleep for this game

And i have school

[ashen wadi]

Then spend like 300 gems and you easily get cupid without any stress

[high canopy]

I don't have gems plus i cant login to do collections, i only get to play at weekends xD

Still managed to get LIV

[ashen wadi]

It is not SPs job to make people that barely play the game happy f2p players can still manage to be great in the game with this monster here

[burnt sentinel]

spek is coming to bh shop get here pierce r3

[ashen wadi]

Outdated

[tribal plover]

if it was stalkiller then it might have been better

[ashen wadi]

Yea

[high canopy]

Yep but P2P still get access to op P2P mons and op f2p mons meaning they have double advantage as usual

[ashen wadi]

Not double advantage

They have an advantage but a f2p player can still be amazing at this game

Uriel is the best monster in this game and was f2p Cupid is the 2nd best also f2p Galvanus was one of the best also f2p

[tribal plover]

pango , slum , frustrator , posi proves f2p can be op

[ashen wadi]

Slum, Frut and Posi are not useable in high leagues anymore neither is pango tbh

I guess Pango is sorta still useful

[high canopy]

P2p also had acces to Uriel...

[ashen wadi]

Whats your point lol

[heavy leaf]

I mean, sure f2p players do have many meta monsters, but so do the p2w players

and they have access to more talents

[high canopy]

Thats what I mean, they get meta P2P mons and also meta f2p mons

[ashen wadi]

This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard

P2P means you pay to make the game easier which means ofc you will have access to better monsters earlier lol

[heavy leaf]

I see you aren't mentioning the talents

which is the biggest f2p to p2w separater

[ashen wadi]

I agree

But the conversation wasn’t about the talents

[ashen wadi]

?

[gray kelp]

that was fast

[shut ivy]

Yall think shadownya Elvira and serpentex is a good team

[copper spoke]

Replace Elvira with King Atum next Season

But I think it's pretty good

[shut ivy]

Atum countered by serp or cupid

[jolly fjord]

why elvira tho?

[jolly fjord]

shadow/algata/raijin/ahma, serp and pango would be good

[shut ivy]

Evasion double damage and troture immunity

[shut ivy]

Shadow trait disable anti Elvira double damage and serp blows em up

Xd

[jolly fjord]

evasion can be countered by serp and serps prob gona otk so immune to dots aint that useful

[jolly fjord]

enemy ahma goes first dmg boost then tt into serp and you lose

[shut ivy]

Torture immunity still good and nit everyone uses pierce

[shut ivy]

Ahma dumb ai

[jolly fjord]

true

[shut ivy]

Who runs that on defense

[jolly fjord]

🤷

[gray oxide]

This team good

[shut ivy]

Not bad

[hollow stump]

Is this setup any good?

[shut ivy]

Ye pretty good

[hollow stump]

Thanks - are the runes/relics alright? I feel like I have no good ones

[ashen wadi]

Nishant is a bad attacker

[ashen wadi]

Elvira is one of the best monsters in the game

[hollow stump]

Dang - he’s the only decent one I’ve got :/

[serene smelt]

Will this be good enough for L1?

[ashen wadi]

Maybe

[copper slate]

if you grind a ton it’s possible

[jolly fjord]

Is my defense that bad😪

[copper spoke]

Yes

[unreal plaza]

Thats just sad

[high canopy]

Skill issue

[dusky ibex]

Wh

[heavy leaf]

skill issue

[fresh talon]

doesnt even have runes..and what skill issue could be..i lost to him too he has 394/396 won in attack with that team.. its impossible

[ashen wadi]

I have no clue what you are saying

[copper spoke]

It's clearly skill issue

you're only showing how skill issued you are by saying that to pro Cristi

[hollow valley]

funni stats

[dusky ibex]

Guys help :(

[hollow stump]

Just give up before you get humiliated

[forest arch]

che

[dusky ibex]

Che my beloved

[hardy gorge]

Can't win, leave

[hidden zinc]

Still gotta level my runs but decent?

[forest arch]

Yh

Safe l1

How many trophies to safe L2?

[jolly fjord]

Need to work on runes

[leaden yarrow]

[hardy gorge]

Low damage

[jolly fjord]

Actually it’s moderate damage

[hardy gorge]

[high canopy]

Considering u have double damage, and damage boost + 2.5x damage since other mons are dark element, i conclude that the damage is very low

[mental glen]

Is this a good team

[tardy cipher]

You need an attacker

[high canopy]

Galv can be a good attacker

[heavy leaf]

tbh you don't need an attacker

[radiant gate]

so do you know of a strategy that can counter opponents that rely on draining your stamina to stun lock you to death because your recharge rate is lower than the depletion

[copper spoke]

stamina recovering relics

[radiant gate]

thats what i like to hear as a level 27

[copper spoke]

Buy King Atum for MT then

[high canopy]

Are my teams good?am champion III btw cuz i don't play much

[heavy leaf]

well in that case

too bad is all I can say

[heavy leaf]

use Garny Galva Uriel on defence

also make sure to put a beast on your defence team

depending on what else you have, you may be able to swap out some of the other mons for your attack team

[dim haven]

Mid

[leaden yarrow]

No it's the fact it's all dark monsters

[hardy gorge]

Ye

[high canopy]

Uriel is my main guy for offense lol

Without him i would loose almost all battles

[heavy leaf]

uriel pro defence mon though

I see him a lot

[modern swallow]

I counter him with shadow

[heavy leaf]

I counter shadow with galva

[jolly fjord]

I counter galva with common sense

[languid inlet]

👀

[heavy leaf]

[high canopy]

[modern swallow]

not if u dont have an mt

[heavy leaf]

sparkus

uriel galva sparkus

pog team

maybe

[modern swallow]

[high canopy]

Elvira demonslayer, galva and cherub cupid team exists

[modern swallow]

shadow counters that team full

[brave crystal]

I think there should also be a Separate F2P Seasonal PvP Tournament...and a P2W Seasonal PvP Tournament...And Keep the Current Mix F2PandP2W Seasonal PvP Tournament...Add Some More Rewards for the TOP 100, TOP 50 excluding the TOP1 Prize that can stay as it currently set...XD

[dusky ibex]

🍪 cookie

[sacred spire]

[hardy gorge]

No chance to win

[high canopy]

Quit, no way u win, if u win then confirmed hacker

[hardy gorge]

True

[dusky ibex]

Random team because i'm bored

🦭

[ashen wadi]

How lol

[dusky ibex]

I have no idea

[high canopy]

Better than min

[high canopy]

My max defense wins ever

Am nub no bully pls

[high canopy]

Is my defence good?

Garnyxel 1 life level 6, 2 team speed lvl 7
Uriel 2 speed lvl 7, 1 lvl8 life
Galvanus 2 speed lvl 7, 1 speed mutated with life lvl7
Skills: Garnyxel: All allies 30%heal, double life and evasion, mt skill, and aoe shock
Uriel: both res skills, 1cd cleansing, double per with curse to all
Galv: per with peb, aoe 30%life removal,single 30% life removal, all allies anticipation
Relics: Garnyxel: Health gene
Uriel: Demonic pact
Galv: Burnt blood

[jolly fjord]

Not bad

Tho i kinda suggest that you use something like nanite cloud or phase shield

[real bison]

i really don't get it, i am a new player with account level 20, fighting people with account level 80+ with monsters 3x my levels

[jolly fjord]

You must be in a league too high for you

mm is based on league and not level or monster level

[hasty forge]

there's also Bronze 3 with level 100 mythics tho

[jolly fjord]

Skill issue ig…

[high canopy]

Nanite cloud is being used on my uv fusion who is my attack team, and i don't have phase shield

[jolly fjord]

Oh

Then health gene is a pretty good one too

[crisp wolf]

I keep my defense simple

[light sinew]

Chad

[dusky ibex]

So, my attack team right now is Uriel, Alaroc and Uv, and somehow it's working

[gilded raptor]

Hacking

[crisp wolf]

Nah its skill

[languid inlet]

Already reported.

[crisp wolf]

Pretty good for me

[rare lantern]

Does anyone know about this?????

[copper spoke]

new event

[rare lantern]

Is each team matched with 100 teams ????

[copper spoke]

and judging by #general-feedback i think some people know about it

[copper spoke]

what?

it's a ranking

the team with the most wins gets 3K Nectar

[rare lantern]

Is why im asking what about those below 100

[copper spoke]

they don't get rewards

[rare lantern]

Ok thats totally unfair it almost looks like 100 teams against one another

There's alot more teams than 100 it should be set up more fair for all teams to get something

[copper spoke]

then leave a feedback in #general-feedback

[rare lantern]

Good idea

[crisp wolf]

New defense team against this attack team. Thank me later

[covert spoke]

Yes, but if you're not playing in legendary division you should have fairly easy and quick battles. 🙂 shouldn't be much of a problem if you have an active team that all logs in every day

100th rank now is less than 10 wins each, so about 15 minutes against L1 opponents...

[turbid mesa]

Any other L1 players online?

[jolly fjord]

Skill Issue

Legond might be legit tho

[modern swallow]

I dont think so

His monsters are outdated for L1

Relics and runes are bad too

[prime silo]

It would be funny if the hackers(skilled players ) hit rank 1

[uncut hollow]

The fact they did that for a reason to drop then farm wars in for pvp points on the challenge

[rare lantern]

Hopefully next round this could happen sorry best way to get through to them is by messaging directly

[copper spoke]

pretty sure you're not allowed to post Support screenshots for some reason

[rare lantern]

At least i got through to them

[languid inlet]

Correct.

[copper spoke]

Can I ask why?

[summer anchor]

This defense team is cancer but i got the medicine

[summer anchor]

Don't wanna ve exposed

[copper spoke]

[jagged quiver]

im pretty sure this guy is hacking

theres more

[copper spoke]

all skilled players

[merry lance]

Just better than you I guess

[merry lance]

All very skilled gamers

[jolly fjord]

There are now 17 of them in the top 100 🙈🙈

[tardy dew]

Wassup people

[dense crown]

Can I win?

They're so strong

[hardy gorge]

Nope

[languid inlet]

It’s in the Rules.

[crisp wolf]

No they have META-lsaur

Its not dropping if I dont have a good team with Meta-saur in LL

The One beat me

[jolly fjord]

The one*

[crisp wolf]

Which one

[prime silo]

technically firesaur is more meta than ahma rn

[high canopy]

Yes

Firesaur superemacy

[onyx dock]

Let's goooo

[heavy leaf]

not even top 3?

skill issue

[modern swallow]

10h of wasted time for 25 nectar

[onyx dock]

More 😂

[onyx dock]

Or maybe the only one of the team doing my battles 😭

[modern swallow]

Lmao how many did u do?

[onyx dock]

Maybe 650 out of 810 😂😂

So bout 650 mins

Maybe more i'm not sure 😭

[sharp dove]

I’ve done 280

@onyx dock check here

[onyx dock]

K

Oof

Oh i'm actually lower

[sharp dove]

Wow, that’s crazy lol

[onyx dock]

But holy sh*t that's a lot 😂

[sharp dove]

Yup!

You got 2x of my score

[onyx dock]

Would've won if it was a solo PvP lol

[sharp dove]

Lol

[onyx dock]

Lmao

[sharp dove]

We’re right here

[onyx dock]

But yeah that's what it is to be 7 actives out of 25 🙄

+1 super active 😂

[sharp dove]

Oof lol 😂

[onyx dock]

New team actually so quite normal but yeah 😭

[sharp dove]

😢

[onyx dock]

Anyways i should calm down a bit for the next 4 days

Nice talking to you bro, all the best 💪

[frigid brook]

pro

[sharp dove]

Likewise 💪

[sharp dove]

❤️🙌

[frigid brook]

😳

[sharp dove]

😎

[onyx dock]

Nice top 50 as well gg 💪

[frigid brook]

hold up, let me get Krizent Knights to top 50 as well

[onyx dock]

You guys are doing great, best of Luck ❤️

[turbid mesa]

Which pvp set-up should I use? 3 strength Cherub, 3 speed Galvanus, 2 team speed 1 life Uriel the Divine, or 3 life Maremotus instead of Galvanus? I've been having trouble with Dark Volt as I don't have Phase Shield for Mare nor do I have Ancient Cloak, but I'm also not sure if running no tank is a good idea.

[modern swallow]

The first team is pretty good

With galv cupid and uriel

[high canopy]

First team seems good ngl

[turbid mesa]

Thanks. Another possible team I could use is 3 speed Ahma Niah instead of Galvanus. Would using Ahma be better than using Galvanus?

[heavy leaf]

that's a defence team if I ever saw one

[high canopy]

Whats the issue? He probably has reverse healing

[copper spoke]

probably flexing Phyreas' AI being dumb and killing himself with the heals

[jolly fjord]

Ya think?

This was a joke team didnt expect to win a battle lol

[prime silo]

Pierce with et

Ah yes funny

[latent zealot]

top one hack?

ban the guy

[crisp wolf]

Hacker? My team is way better then his

[heavy leaf]

[crisp wolf]

Also that rank difference lmao im happy it only took 1 trophy hes top 10

Like * also its not edited trust me the defense is that good *

[dusky ibex]

[rocky star]

Pro

[crisp wolf]

thats a pro no joke he has more mp and monsters then me

[crisp wolf]

… 6666

Also the attack i lost they had all lvl X mutant runes with max relic lvl with obsidian relics and i almost won (only 1 monster remaind)

[lone burrow]

[crisp wolf]

Im lower

[crisp wolf]

Atleast i can say i was dropping so i wasted some trophys

Also

[heavy leaf]

skill issue

[crisp wolf]

Jokes on you I almost have 4k now

[rocky star]

I mean the defense team

[high canopy]

I have 4million

[crisp wolf]

Sure heres the defense

Its pretty good

[crisp wolf]

4m is kinda bad ngl thats 1 lvl 130 monster probably less but yeah

[crisp wolf]

I didnt know ml was going to a point when using a macro is a strategy (for team pvp thing) to drop to bronze league

Also if the top teams arent doing that theres your new method that will save time and will be faster

[rapid jay]

Wait till u drop later

[lone burrow]

its old screenshot

from last season

[modern swallow]

Still pro

[stoic valve]

👀

[dusky ibex]

:(

[copper spoke]

pro

[crisp wolf]

Did you lose? We need to know

[copper spoke]

I mean

Lettuce is using "Control-Immune Attacker"

he's too good to lose to 2 dumb rocks and a robot in love

[crisp wolf]

But the res block

[copper spoke]

hmm true

[crisp wolf]

Well maybe he didnt get the robot guy rank 1 we will never know

[dusky ibex]

I went back to bronze 3

[frigid brook]

that's my player lol

like, a player on my team 😂

[dusky ibex]

Wow

[jolly fjord]

give up, can’t beat titcart

tauntimmunetocontrolartifact

[prime silo]

Are u guys experiencing bugs that don't count pvp wins

[frigid brook]

wat

the event is over

[prime silo]

Sometimes after pvp the win never registers and pvp crashes

[frigid brook]

oh-

[prime silo]

I lose trophies

[frigid brook]

dang, it hasn't happened to me

i think it's a bug

[prime silo]

Ok thanks

[crisp wolf]

Its called Skill

[modest slate]

slumter still works?

[heavy leaf]

not really

[modest slate]

why?

[heavy leaf]

it's called powercreep

new monsters and eras are outclassing him

[modest slate]

works in L4?

[heavy leaf]

probably will

[modest slate]

works whit resurrection and attacker?

[heavy leaf]

probably will

[modest slate]

oh nice

[prime silo]

No

I use slum high l4/low l3

He's garbage

Anything with per will just destroy ur team

But if u don't have better

Yes he is good

[crisp wolf]

Slumster is still pretty good with dark volt but ofc shadowyna does better now but still pretty good if enemy doesnt have anticipation

Also if your doing dark volt thing have electric beast or whatever its called

[copper spoke]

Slums is still pretty good in Wars

[slim spade]

I’m boutta get 5 op mythics in one event

Biggest pull of all time

[heavy leaf]

just wait until he realises that none of the mythics in this event are op

[wheat storm]

Alaorc is decent

[slim spade]

So.. I looked at monster reviews and…

I mean they’re not that bad right?

[heavy leaf]

not bad mostly just not op

also you might as well rule out getting the talents from the era sagas because they're most likely going to be too hard for you

[slim spade]

Yeah but now that I have the monsters I can get it once I’m prepared

[high canopy]

Outclassed in speed, many meta mons with double per so his pep ad evasion doesn't work plus pierce is meta

[modest slate]

F slumter + resurrection + attacker

[copper spoke]

[modest slate]

So who can replace Slumter on this team?

A tank?

Other support?

A control?

[modern swallow]

Depends on the resurrector but Tank ig

[high canopy]

Elvira demonslayer

[modest slate]

P3r3 or steelgrod?

[wheat storm]

Steel

[valid wharf]

Depends on who you need on your team

[dusky ibex]

A support or a tank

[gray oxide]

Funny

[wheat storm]

Snek

[minor ice]

Lol

[strange echo]

i dont have any rewards to claim and it still shows the gift icon .... what does it mean?

[heavy leaf]

it's a bug

[minor ice]

Lol

[dense crown]

A worthy opppnent

[merry veldt]

@dense crown Umm you sure about that

[dense crown]

Yeah

They arent lv 69

[crisp wolf]

I dropped so much i found Monster Gaming again

In L4

In C2

[quartz marlin]

Damn both yall are dropping

[crisp wolf]

For race ofc

[fallow torrent]

I just bumped into a level 60 player me being level 52, and yk how that turned out, gotta love the game's matchmaking 🗿
they really gotta fix pvp

[copper spoke]

it's just an 8 level difference

I imagine you rushed Adventure?

[fallow torrent]

it's a big difference
and that doesn't dismiss the fact it has happened with even bigger level gaps

[fallow torrent]

no? and what does that have to do with it?

[copper spoke]

Level /=/ Skill

[copper spoke]

Was just assuming since you said that

[fallow torrent]

hm

[fallow torrent]

it's not about skill it's about resource and monster power, you can't just put a level 20 with a level 18 pandaken, level 11 greenasaur and a level 15 firekong against a level 110 General Nishant, level 90 Xiron and a level 100 Visiel
it's common sense

[copper spoke]

it's not about skill it's about resource and monster power
Yeah, you can be level 70 and have 3K MP

Saw someone with that some time ago

by level you mean monster level or player level?

[fallow torrent]

player level?
is there any other type of level?-

[copper spoke]

Yes?

[fallow torrent]

what???

[copper spoke]

there are other types of levels

but player level is an unreliable way of knowing how good someone is, since you can just rush Adventure with one new era mythic and level up way too much (also makes some features harder)

[fallow torrent]

still, and besides, ml is becoming pay to win and that can't really be denied

[copper spoke]

what does ML being p2w have to do with anything that has been said

[fallow torrent]

hm

[fallow torrent]

a lot

[copper spoke]

[fallow torrent]

higher levels are the ones who mostly get mythics, and I've noticed that for quite a while, and most higher levels have a lot of gems and I bet you 10 dollars they've spent on gems to buy the monsters, and the whole game by itself is super expensive like why the hell are rare monsters on over 1,000 gems??

yes you can breed them and stuff but that doesn't deny the fact it's unnecessarily expensive, and again, the matchmaking is horrible and it should be matched by monster levels and monster power, not by trophies, because that makes 0 sense

but honestly there's no point arguing about this

[valid wharf]

role less moment

I can't believe people are complaining about pvp matchmaking now

There's worse problems in the game fam

[copper spoke]

You have Adventurer which is worse

actually they left the server

which is way better than being in it

[prime silo]

Hayman op

[crisp wolf]

I did get attacked 4 times by him(no revanges)

But that doesnt really matter

[tribal plover]

yeah true

[valid wharf]

no

adventurer are most pro

[crisp wolf]

I have an adventurer role i hate the colour but am not bothered to apply for a new role

[copper spoke]

Liar!

[valid wharf]

no

[copper spoke]

[valid wharf]

adventurer proest of them all

[prime silo]

Why

I hate pushing adventure map

Despite it being the only thing to play 6 years ago

[valid wharf]

It's a joke

[rapid jay]

Tell me blossom mons to rank up

[tribal plover]

atum , serp , epigursus , ( neradia 🤨 ? ) , shadowyna , ahma , talika , forge

[jolly fjord]

atum, serp shadow ahma, maybe forge

[rapid jay]

Dont hv atum,serp and forge

[jolly fjord]

And why do you expect me to just know that? What blossoms do you have?

[rapid jay]

Imma f2p

[prime silo]

Forge?

[jolly fjord]

Forge is f2p

[rapid jay]

I missed out on him, cant blame me

[opaque jacinth]

Ngl that’s pretty smart lol

until there’s a pierce

[tribal plover]

or PER

[crisp wolf]

Get wildbird R5 (lvl 4) and make your defense annoying for players not using pierce

With warmaster elvira

[tribal plover]

what does he do

[crisp wolf]

Positive effect protection as a trait

…

So you can trait disable him because he has evasion and you cant remove his evasion because he has the protection as a trait

Only thing is its very expensive

R5

Of course pierce monsters can defeat him but everything else might just have to wait

[crisp wolf]

What am i wrong

[heavy leaf]

pesti trap

[crisp wolf]

Yes alot of players use that

Lvl X life runes

If you have a R5 wildbird your rich enough for X life runes

Here are the runes

Wildbird:

Warmaster elvira:

Any monster lets say elvira the mythic one:

[jolly fjord]

Demo pact does 60k fire damage

Could put chi for fire weakness

[heavy leaf]

there's no reason to waste 9 X runes on that team though

[crisp wolf]

I wouldnt but you could use like lvl 6 runes

It will annoy some players that dont have pierce and a relic that can defeat your team

[heavy leaf]

well they have skill issue and that's their problem

[crisp wolf]

Actually for more life because theres a mythic with pe protection use Targon

Also wildbird R5 is just to much

[high canopy]

Rather run neobuki

Or akunobuki

[heavy leaf]

I'd rather run a defence with an actual chance to win

[acoustic stirrup]

Anyone knows what determines which team goes first,because it always seems to me that majority of the times it's the other team that goes.
Like if I went first I could have won countless battles

[crisp wolf]

But thats not funny

Like a player goes into a battle and they just have to recharge for 4min

Like imagine being so confindent with like a super fast uriel or like a dark volt and it just has to recharge the whole game

Imagine a taunt pe protection monster

That would make the battle winnable without the enemy leaving the battle

[graceful kiln]

Some of them get ultimate skill

[crisp wolf]

What can they do with an ultimate

They need pierce

[heavy leaf]

kill drill

[crisp wolf]

Ok but this is most battles for me

That arent pierce monsters

They would have to wait it out

So what im saying is that it would be a good troll team

[heavy leaf]

skill issue

[crisp wolf]

Co-leader of lioom would have fun with my defense

Just a skill issue

[jolly fjord]

LOL

[crisp wolf]

I checked his relics and he wouldnt have defeated the team i was talking about

[graceful kiln]

Uriel can remove positive status effects

[crisp wolf]

Positive effect protection

As a trait

[graceful kiln]

Ok

How

[crisp wolf]

Some monsters have it

[graceful kiln]

Nice

[gaunt dragon]

How do they have to wait out?

[copper spoke]

read the conversation above

[crisp wolf]

Because they cant trait disable and cant remove positive effects. Some relics can kill him but if not they have to leave or wait

when i get the monster ill troll somebody with the team

[gaunt dragon]

Which monster

[crisp wolf]

Any that have positive effect protection as a trait

Neobuku, akunobuki, Targon(what im trying to get), wildbird(r5)

[gaunt dragon]

What do you wanna get

[crisp wolf]

Targon

[gaunt dragon]

Targon is a mythic I would say Neobuki level 4 would be better

[copper spoke]

Pestilence Trap tho

[crisp wolf]

It would but i feel like its going to be harder to get

[crisp wolf]

I said some relics will kill

[gaunt dragon]

I don’t think many players use this trap

[crisp wolf]

One thing alot of players dont use it

[copper spoke]

fair enough

[crisp wolf]

Like slumster trap

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah it’s craftable and an amazing trap

[crisp wolf]

Anyway you do need like a warmaster elvira or something that gives evasion at the start if the battle

[heavy leaf]

yes

[crisp wolf]

I would say try to keep the monster low level because of shadowyna essence

[heavy leaf]

yes

[azure briar]

🐖

[graceful kiln]

Same Idea

[crisp wolf]

Letss go nice

[gray kelp]

besides bodyguard, are there any ways a monster can get MT that's not by self applying?

[copper spoke]

Getting Tayni'd

[ashen wadi]

lol

[slim spade]

From what league do you start getting tier 7 chests?

[jolly fjord]

It's any league

Just the higher the league, the higher the chance

Supposedly

[slim spade]

Wow I’m super unlucky

[jolly fjord]

It's a small chance in the first place

[crisp wolf]

Ive got 260 wins and i got like 1 or 2 tier 7s .

Its not that your unlucky

[jolly fjord]

What league? I've done much more battles and only got three

[crisp wolf]

Its just rare

[crisp wolf]

I was in legendary league most of the time

But i did get like 30 wins in champion when i dropped

[graceful kiln]

I got 4 all in gold 1

I’m now in champion 2 and got no lvl 7

[graceful kiln]

I change

[rocky star]

I've done 85 got 3

[rocky star]

Wait, really? I thought it didnt matter

[jolly fjord]

It's supposedly the higher the league, the higher the chance

[ashen wadi]

I don’t think so

[jolly fjord]

🤷‍♂️

[ashen wadi]

I think that is true up to a certain league then the chances get lower

[graceful kiln]

It gets higher I think that stands there wen the chests came out

[ashen wadi]

I think somewhere from C1-L2 is the peak

Because chances are not good in L1

[worn gyro]

Well, Galva is just too op, many people uses him in defense and it's usage skyrocketed because it counters Shadow/Ahma

[ashen wadi]

Yea

[rapid jay]

Is it normal to lose 56 battles on the way to L1, rn? Im at exact 7k trophies.Btw i kinda lost 20 battles unecessarily..., cuz i was testing out teams and doing battles for pass missions

[dusky ibex]

imo, skill
I defeated really good teams with higher runes or relic levels

And yeah is normal, sometimes is luck

[rapid jay]

I m using a 2 lvl 8s on algata and pango respectively

[crisp wolf]

Stll saying my 2 lvl 4 strat is op especially in friendly battles

Unless the enemy has a pierce monster

[crisp wolf]

Update to my strat. You can use P3R3 and i just spent 100 gems getting targon cells when i had 100 p3r3 cells

[heavy leaf]

skill issue

[rapid jay]

Who?

[rapid jay]

Galva my beloved

[worn gyro]

Targon isn't a thing, anymore

[worn gyro]

Simple, use your skill (not monster skills)

Whenever Galva runs Team Anti, do the AoE PER move

[worn gyro]

I got L1 with my lvl 132 Algata

Cuz of Cupid

[rapid jay]

[crisp wolf]

What do you mean i can defeat alot of players with that targon team

All the player with their op uriels … cant win if they dont have a pierce monsters especially in friendly battles

Targon can beat alot of teams and like this player cant defeat it in friendly battles unless he waits or has a pierce monster

Targon is still better then like enhanzor in my heart

[dusky ibex]

Hey guys, my attack team is teddy, uriel and uvfusion, with that team I got to L2, that's pretty nice?

[ashen wadi]

No pierce

[dusky ibex]

Ye, when I got cupid I was a worse player so I didn't rank him up

[crisp wolf]

Also everything im saying i havent tasted if it works so just throwing that out there

I will be able to after 1 week

[tribal plover]

tasted

|| i know its a typo ||

[rapid jay]

Im losing against triple light teams

Should i go full str cupid

And 1 life 2 speed on algata?

[ashen wadi]

Why do you not have full strength on Cupid already

[graceful kiln]

[rapid jay]

What do i do?

Opponents preety strong

They were so strong

[ashen wadi]

That is a nub defense

[valid wharf]

wym

[ashen wadi]

I mean it is a nub defense

[high canopy]

Yep tda kinda outdated in higher ranks

Cuz pierce counters it

[ashen wadi]

Yea

[crisp wolf]

You can 100% beat that but if that teddy bomb was replaced with a cherub cupid it would be a difftent story

I beat those teams with lvl 8,7 and even lvl 6 runes on my pango

[hexed hollow]

Me who sucks at pvp

[median ridge]

Neirvada bundle or serp bundle for pvp?

[hexed hollow]

Serp, but wouldn't buy either

[heavy leaf]

I wouldn't buy either as well

[median ridge]

Whys that?

[heavy leaf]

well first off spending money on ml is a bad idea since it's just a mobile game

and also they'll be available later on for free

[tribal plover]

[hexed hollow]

They will quickly be outclassed, Nerieda outclassed by shadow, srrp outclassed by cupid

[tribal plover]

neredia still good , has healing , ITT , etc.

[dusky ibex]

Ye

[hexed hollow]

Yes but Nereida garbage compared to shadow

[copper spoke]

Both are good

it's just that Shadow is too good

[dusky ibex]

They work different, both good

[valid wharf]

Both good

Design wise Nereida>shadow heeheehaw

Nereida has torture immune and heal skills which shadow doesn’t have

So both good in their own ways

[hexed hollow]

Heal skills too counterable

Shadow works better in the current meta where it's one shot or nothing

[copper spoke]

hate

[copper spoke]

Hayman is just too op

[graceful kiln]

I know

[heavy leaf]

ew

[finite roost]

Hayman bruh i remember getting him and Pumpkinseed in Halloween events...

Golden days before Mythics were released

[modern swallow]

@oak relic please help me with the runes for L1

[oak relic]

wouldnt use that anymore

switch ahma for cupid

[modern swallow]

[oak relic]

2 ts shadow

[modern swallow]

I dont have him lmao

[oak relic]

dang

then do

2 ts 1 speed shadow

and 2 strength 1 speed ahma

mt should have full ts

[modern swallow]

Okay, thank you pro

[oak relic]

[tribal blade]

What are the cell rewards in legendary?

[toxic frost]

Why the chests are worse than before.

[minor ice]

matchmaking is the worst-

bruh-

plus u dont even get the cells of monster till chest level 3

[leaden olive]

Looks like eggs got nerfed, that sucks

[honest wagon]

yeah can we get a revert

[ashen wadi]

I hope not

Eggs are great in legendary leagues

[gaunt dragon]

Thats True in Legendary League they’re great.

[stable acorn]

What do legendary eggs have?

[gaunt dragon]

Look in Battle Pass

[valid wharf]

Yeah

[sacred spire]

What's with this PvP thing? Why????

It was awesome till now

[valid wharf]

It’s more awesome now

gives high league players a reason to play

[lavish willow]

and it alienates the rest of the playerbase.

[valid wharf]

Eh

There’s much much better monsters you can get aside from pvp

For example, bounty hunt

[lavish willow]

Ik

Still sucks since it's hard to climb where I'm at.

[wheat storm]

Grind the battle pass or just climb upto champion/legendary

[ashen wadi]

I need a pro to help me with my pvp teams

[heavy leaf]

[copper breach]

sure if you're interested

[ashen wadi]

Yes, thank you.

I will tell you my best monsters

Cupid (150), Uriel (150), Elvira (150), Serpentex (150), Ahma Niah (150), King Atum (150), Elfeera (150), Xiron (150), Master Goldfield (148)

@copper breach

[heavy leaf]

fatum ahma serp

also do you have galva

[ashen wadi]

I am ranking him up, currently 132

[ashen wadi]

For defense or offense

[heavy leaf]

offence

you can use the funny triple light on defence

elvira galva cupid/uriel

[ashen wadi]

Ok

What talents/relics/runes for everyone

[heavy leaf]

did you get Seven Sins

[ashen wadi]

Yes

I have every doomed talent

And blossom talent

[heavy leaf]

use Atum's Cross on Atum, not sure what blossom damaging talents there are for serp and run Iodah's Legacy on ahma

[heavy leaf]

seven sins elvira, demonic pact galva and spear of destiny cupid

[ashen wadi]

I was thinking maybe “The Hare” for Serp?

[ashen wadi]

What about Uriel until I get Galva leveled up

Maybe Purgatory Throne?

[heavy leaf]

that'll do

[heavy leaf]

run ancient cloak on elvira and seven sins on uriel then

[ashen wadi]

Ok

[heavy leaf]

gotta counter those ET mons

[ashen wadi]

For sure

[copper breach]

for defense I recommend Atum there for sure

I was going to say use Galvanus for defense but I see he's 132 for you

I also think if you want to use Elfeera, definitely use Uriel with her as she's very frail in the Light meta

Anyways, for my team suggestions:

Defense: Atum, Serpentex, and Uriel is a pretty good team imo

changed my mind lol. Anyways I like Serpentex slightly more on defense because Blossom Talents aren't very good

For offense I'd recommend Elvira, Cupid, and Ahma Niah

Elvira has team ITT which is great right now, and her and Ahma Niah can damage buff Cupid's mediocre damage output

and Cupid has access to amazing talents like SOD, Ancient Cloak, SS, even Boiling Blood

[ashen wadi]

Burnt Blood?

[copper breach]

yeah

[heavy leaf]

yes

[copper breach]

brain moment

For runes

[heavy leaf]

does Atum even need to be that fat

[copper breach]

on defense

Atum should have Two Team Speed for sure, whether you want Team Health, regular Health, or another Team Speed is up to you, and I'd say Atum's Cross or even The Griffin will work as a talent on him. Serpentex I like two Strength and one Speed with Vadamagma Triskeles. For Uriel I personally use one Team Speed, one Speed, one Health on him but if you want him to be fast definitely swap the TS out for a regular Speed, for talent, I'd recommend Seven Sins or Ancient Cloak on him.

on offense:

[ashen wadi]

I have exact same runes for Uriel lol

[copper breach]

nice

[heavy leaf]

cloak helps that team not get railed by et mons

[copper breach]

^

[heavy leaf]

like shadow

[copper breach]

You can use Elfeera instead of Serpentex on defense as well

but Elf is weak to Light monsters

[heavy leaf]

but she's also strong vs other uriel's

and potential shiva's

[copper breach]

For offense: Elvira Demonslayer I like the same rune setup that I recommended for Atum, Cupid same rune setup as Serpentex that I recommended above, and for Ahma Niah I like the same rune setup as Uriel that I recommended above.

Talents depend on what you have left over

lol

[ashen wadi]

So for runes are we thinking
Atum

[copper breach]

yeah

[ashen wadi]

Ahma Niah - ?

Or speed life

[copper breach]

I like having one Health but a speedy Ahma Niah is really nice as well

Speed Life imo

Ahma Niah can regenerate stamina through her relics

lemme grab a screenshot of what I would use myself

[ashen wadi]

Ok

Serp -

[copper breach]

yes

[ashen wadi]

Uriel -

Elvira -

Cupid -

Or one speed?

[copper breach]

one moment

Actually that does work

yeah that works

[ashen wadi]

Ok

What are we thinking for relics

Currently I am running

Elvira - Elvira’s Sword, Tayni’s Amulet

[copper breach]

Here’s a sample of what I would try

Defense

Offense

[ashen wadi]

Ok

[copper breach]

Honestly you can use Seven Sins instead of Dark Passenger on Elvira or even replace Ancient Cloak with Seven Sins on Uriel

[ashen wadi]

Ok

Ignore rune levels. Is this good?

Any relic changes?

Or rune changes?

@copper breach

[copper breach]

let's see

I'd say set a beast

other than that

[ashen wadi]

lol

Yea

Cool

Thx

Oh what skill sets should I run?

Just to make sure

I have no clue for Atum tbh

[copper breach]

sorry for late reply

I use

Powerful Fists, Hard As a Diamond, The Shiniest Rock, and The Hardest Rock

[ashen wadi]

Ok

[final lance]

Just wondering what's the current meta for PvP?

[valid wharf]

Pierce

[final lance]

Thats it?

Wow

Hmm guess my thought process was wrong

[heavy leaf]

either the funny triple light, or king atum, elfeera, ahma, teddy or shadow

[final lance]

Any ideas for a good late game set up? Like should I go for a attacker a supporter and a curser or should I go with a tank?

Just trying to get some good ideas for monsters I should work for late game

[zinc crag]

Guys is getting champion in 6 weeks good

[heavy leaf]

there's no "late game setup" really

pvp is all about using the meta monsters

so the only 'setup' really is getting those monsters

[gray oxide]

This team good

Got you

[ashen wadi]

No

Maybe for L2

[heavy leaf]

tbh it's not bad

counters seven sins

pierce and atum is good

[ashen wadi]

Cupid moment

[jolly fjord]

Probably use 2 strength and 1 speed on serp

[ashen wadi]

Yep

[dusky ibex]

Help

[copper spoke]

op team

[slim spade]

What monsters should I use for defense??

I have tuberkhan, Volcanyx and talika on attack team

[minor ice]

I have nyla, tuberkhan and magmor on attack team

Need help for defense team
Which monsters should i use?

[jolly fjord]

Skelektron, Teddy and Talika

[winter tulip]

You really need to rank your monsters

[minor ice]

[sudden bough]

How's my team

[tribal plover]

lets just say it could be better

[copper spoke]

Murk pro

[hexed hollow]

Lol

[worn gyro]

Murk sometimes has a use in wars tho

[copper spoke]

Yeah, Murk is pro

[devout dome]

I need suggestions on a 3rd monster too use I have urial and elvria and don’t know who should I use for my 3rd monster any suggestions?

[dense crown]

Cham 2 is weird

[cinder charm]

Bruh I'm more confused by the Fract-Bot

[rapid jay]

Facts

[dense crown]

No its name is snowflake

[rapid jay]

How to beat this team?

They are so tanky

[jolly fjord]

shadowyna’s light hater

[dusky ibex]

Omg is that

[copper spoke]

Pirate Monkey

[hard remnant]

Can someone help me on attack team?

[copper spoke]

Teddy / Planto / Lucky Clint Attack imo

[valid wharf]

Sir, this is a wendys

[runic stratus]

no clue how i beat serpentex + king atum combo lol

[dusky ibex]

They gave up

[runic stratus]

this an attack not defense

[dusky ibex]

Why wha

Damn the ai is dumb

[runic stratus]

pretty much lol

[tribal plover]

it buffed atum

[valid wharf]

even if the ai buffed atum, serp should be able to kill 2 nature monsters without buffs

guess the ai is dumb

[tribal plover]

serp usually does the 3x damage skill 1st turn

[runic stratus]

it didn’t lol, it attack first turn, no aoe though

and beside it took me 3 turn to kill king atum torture stack lol

[runic stratus]

it didn’t

the thunder mythic attack

[dusky ibex]

For some reason I love that team

Looks cool

[dusky ibex]

Sounds familiar

[tribal plover]

the 3 tank defense

[hexed hollow]

Would ahma niah, slab and Shadowyna be good?

[long turret]

Yeah Bc Slab is Gud to Partner for Dodge Area

[tribal plover]

idk abt slab because pierce