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[warped escarp]

Hi, how to get ticket summon ?

[river relic]

Lvl 36

[green hamlet]

6767

[warped escarp]

pls guys

[green hamlet]

what

[green hamlet]

Dusk aura told u to reach lvl 36

[warped escarp]

bro im level 90

i got 100 ticket only at lvll 36

[green hamlet]

do caves

[warped escarp]

btw sorry didnt understood

[warped escarp]

i keep losing at like 7

[green hamlet]

keep going

[warped escarp]

till when ?

[green hamlet]

not with the run, but keep trying

[warped escarp]

wdym

[green hamlet]

if u fail before 10 then exit and retry

[warped escarp]

how much it cost to retry

[green hamlet]

try to get to pot 25 with 2 skips, sometimes 3

[green hamlet]

5 gems to retry

[warped escarp]

oh ok ok aight ty bro

[green hamlet]

alg gng

[warped escarp]

i dont have mcuh gems lol needa farm

[green hamlet]

yeah it costs a lot to cave

[warped escarp]

wdym skip ? sorry bro cant understand im idiot i think

[green hamlet]

yk how u get trapped

pay the dude 2 times to keep going after being trapped

[warped escarp]

ohh ok

ty

and the cards are good ?

like yk the collection

what u can get with it

[versed galleon]

A r5 monster but this one is trash

And it is also hard to get new cards once you get 90

[warped escarp]

ok ok ty guys

sorry im high level but cant understand very mcuh

so i ask chatgpt the mythic i have like what team i should do with them

[vale plume]

I been stuck on 108 for a whiiile

[swift totem]

Not the best thing to do, from experience through others the ai suck for ml

[warped escarp]

oh ok so can i ask you ?

[swift totem]

Me or most ppl here yeah

[warped escarp]

ok so, my current team is omu wu, erder, dharcameraman, but in my inventory i have lady vermillion, ravenous, waveblaze, and hysterykeaster

[swift totem]

I'd run lady, raven and wave

[warped escarp]

what is each role of the mythics ? like raven dps ? support ?

[swift totem]

Lady is tank, raven is dps, wave is dmg booster though you'll swap her first when u get better

[warped escarp]

i forgot i have pixelion

nvm its suck

[swift totem]

Legendaries are useless

[warped escarp]

its legendary mb

where is monster vault ? CANT find it

[swift totem]

Shop

[warped escarp]

where after ? cant find it

[swift totem]

Buildings

[warped escarp]

ty bro

[tardy topaz]

What is the next ancestor i should get, i got hounen and dame

[tardy topaz]

I did that for like my first day of coming back and its so bad, really shouldnt do it. It lies so hard

And if it doesnt then it tells outdated stuff

[wheat quiver]

watson

[warped escarp]

yea

[tardy topaz]

Oh qylara

Why

[river relic]

Forcefield

[scenic bison]

Chat how to get better relics

[wheat quiver]

you can craft a lot

and get a lot of the rest from era sagas and event boards

[vale plume]

Is exarch quor good?

How many cells total are needed to r2 an ancestor

[wheat quiver]

yes almost all ancestors are

just varying degrees lol

[wheat quiver]

450

[tropic falcon]

What are the best runes to run on the new ancestor

[wheat quiver]

depends

she's pretty good with speed imo

[tropic falcon]

Alr thanks

[lapis falcon]

Kill Joy Club is recruiting!

Looking for active and loyal teammates for a competitive environment no mp req with up to date mythic/ancestors dm @lapis falcon

[fading canopy]

best guy to choose from akira/florian/torog?

[wind lion]

Florian

[tardy topaz]

Is hounen, dame and qylara The best team in The game

[vale plume]

Thats what i heard you should start with

[tardy topaz]

How can three supporters be The best team

[sterile dagger]

Should I go for Watson or new ancestor r5

[versed galleon]

Watson rank 5 is an nighmare to deal with because of area force field and hounen is kinda an attacker with triple damage virtue and other damage boosts

[tardy topaz]

Vro theres no way im getting him rank 5, how many cells even is that

[versed galleon]

1k 900

[tardy topaz]

Im not getting that much

Thats

[versed galleon]

But she can also heal others sooo

Just get her to 120

For the full reset skill

[swift totem]

1900 is cheap considering mythics are 8900

[versed galleon]

Yea but gambling can be tedious

[swift totem]

If you don't like gambling don't play ml 😭

[tardy topaz]

Like 7,6k tickets statisticlly

[swift totem]

For an r5 it's 10k on average

[burnt holly]

Ml is all about gambling 🥀

[tardy topaz]

Yeah how many gems is that

Like one million

[tribal crag]

Tej got summoned to say he spent 2k gems on watson

[burnt holly]

1k

[swift totem]

Depends on luck and impatience

1k is average, I've seen as low as 500

[burnt holly]

[burnt holly]

Lowest i have seen is -20 gems i think so he got more gems than spending maxing an ancestor

[swift totem]

😭

[burnt holly]

This time someone in my team maxed with 150

[tribal crag]

Ive heard someone spent 270 gems for r5

[burnt holly]

I don't feel much bad about it since my past few have been fine luck

[tribal crag]

Fr

[burnt holly]

-20 is lowest i seen unless someone else is lower

[tribal crag]

[tender idol]

How do people maximise the treasure cave? Only doing extra runs on weekends unless you get a good run midweek then try 3 more times then?

[burnt holly]

It's possible if you get two three run with 200 gems once and max ancestor in like 7k tickets

[tender idol]

I did my free run today didn’t get past room 5 and pretty much same the next 3 so I quit should I have only done 2 more extra runs?

[burnt holly]

If you have a good run spend gems in 30 floor cave else always spend gems for 60 floor cave, at first people think it's meaningless but it will always be way better in long run

[tender idol]

What I don’t even get to room 15 most the time lol

Gonna take a couple weeks to get to 30 floor without spending gems minimum

So ur saying I have to wait forever to actually even do it?

[burnt holly]

60 floor cave is active for 3 days in a week

[tender idol]

How does this game even have players it’s actually surprising considering it’s a kids game combined with a slot machine

Oh ok makes sense

[burnt holly]

People at top are not mostly kids

[tender idol]

Yeah no I mean the design like how that’s even legally viable but then again not many people play either in the grand scheme

Like a kids designed looking game should be like that accordingly but it’s not

Literally put a slot machine slap bang in the middle of it lmao

And force u to have to do that for progression

I wanna progress got 500 gems but I won’t be able to for weeks cause it’s rigged to be like that it’s rigged so ur forced to be incredibly patient and still yet have to do offers every week

So I wanna figure out how to tip the odds as much as I can in my favour it seems u can’t and that’s just dumb other than if u spend thousands of gems

Even then you’re not guaranteed to win

I’m wondering how adults haven’t got tired of all the rigging and just quit I mean most free players have it leaves people w deep wallets carrying the game and ends up a soulless hollow corporate game where the meta is defined by the latest ancestrals every time

Like clearly somethings working or moneypoint would’ve changed the dungeons or done something different by now

It’s been like this for 5 years it was like this when I quit

[pure fulcrum]

Everyone threatens to quit but they wont

[tender idol]

It’s why I did quit initially lol

[pure fulcrum]

I like the game as a f2p so im not gonna quit but lots of people threaten to but wont

[tender idol]

Yeah but I really mean it cause it’s genuinely tiring to have to keep up the fun dissipates when it’s all about money and time

[pure fulcrum]

Thats why im f2p

[tender idol]

Yeah same but I still have to pay with my time on the offers

Playing brainrot games for some quick gems why can’t they make an ingame version of that to grind for gems

Like an exclusive dungeon for it where it gets harder each level and an extra 50 gems a week or just anything

I need gems for unlocking rune slots it takes 40 gems for a mythic alone it’s crazy

And for speeding up mythics

Also still charge 600 gems for a legendary in the shop LOL like what the f

That’s only 8 years out of date and it wasn’t worth back then either

Lvl 7 rune for like couple hundred gems like make it 30 gems or somet and it’s worthwhile

And that’s when they’re on sale it’s all just ridiculous

[wheat quiver]

welcome to every mobile game in 2026

[tender idol]

Or a diamond equipment chest for couple hundred gems how has it never been reskinned literally ever

It’s mad cause it’s always kinda been like this but at least back then diamonds were the best relic, it literally not changed in price at all

Makes absolutely no sense it takes a simple reprice it’s as if there’s nobody even behind the coding doing it

[tender idol]

I mean yeah true

Bit like how you have to pay for skins in valorant and getting awful matchmaking one match and easy win the next kinda thing

Not even exclusive to mobile games it’s the whole gaming community under attack it’s just sad to see

Games back in 2010s were in golden era I suppose they gave a sense of too much freedom and happiness cause they’ve all been majorly nerfed

2000s even which carried into 2010s

God knows what happened to them recently they’re all just mid

[tame axle]

welcome welcome

[wheat quiver]

free games require more money than the paid ones 😭

[tame axle]

me hounene when

[tender idol]

Like ultimately even this game was better in legendary era even though it was boring it’s still boring all the grinding and oh out comes another ancestral and mythic which is better than the one your grinder hours for how weary can a game become

[vale plume]

I would quit i just dont have another game to play rn lol

[wheat quiver]

april 2nd

[tame axle]

lets see

[vale plume]

Prolly also whats keepin others here as well

[wheat quiver]

legendary was way more p2w

[tame axle]

if i dont get him what would i do

[tender idol]

Yeah true but at least it felt like an actual reward having legendaries

[wheat quiver]

iirc you literally couldn't get the meta monsters without money😭

[wheat quiver]

try again on April 3rd

[tender idol]

Mythics don’t mean anything now and ancestrals don’t feel good getting cause u cannot get them without gems

[wheat quiver]

gg ez

[tame axle]

no

[tender idol]

Yeah same literally

Downloaded cod yesterday briefly deleted shortly after it’s just boring

Coc**

[tame axle]

play showodwn first

[wheat quiver]

soon tm

[tame axle]

wow

[tender idol]

Tried clash Royale last month barely got an evo n quit that games awful for progression be 6 months to play an evo deck I’d want

And that’s playing 15 mins a day every day

[wheat quiver]

supercell games always a pain to go f2p

[tender idol]

It’s genuinely batsh crazy

[tame axle]

true

[tender idol]

I mean yeah true it’s just a shame the route they’ve gone I remember playing coc in 2013 was sm better even if it took way longer for everything

Cause there was actual skill not just ‘buy this and you will win’

[wheat quiver]

supercell sucks

[tender idol]

That’s the route all these f2p games have gone it destroys them

[wheat quiver]

there's a reason they make so much money

[tender idol]

Make a meta then make you pay for it

Takes away the strategy from strategy games it becomes a whos got the deeper wallet games

I miss strategy games man I always loved them and they’ve all gone to hell

I mean recently supercell been taking huge hits on their revenue

Pretty sure brawl stars is their highest grossing game now lmao

Speaks absolutely volumes rly it’s same for this game like there’s only really 25k or so of actually active players who been playing for a while

[wheat quiver]

when they stop making money they'll start improving and when enough are back to playing they'll make everything p2w again

[tame axle]

@wheat quiver

[tender idol]

It could be 10x that if they just reduce the aggressive p2w aspects

[wheat quiver]

supercell is predictable like that

[wheat quiver]

they don't want money ong😭

[tender idol]

It’s the fact they make games p2w and it doesn’t even make them money LOL like wth

[wheat quiver]

@tame axle

ml is pay to lose low key

[tender idol]

Fr

[tame axle]

hm

[tame axle]

@wheat quiver

[undone dew]

Spent like 100 gems on cave today but damn got level 40 and a first ancestor finally

Kinda tempted to go for more cave runs as I’ve went past level 25 twice today

[tender idol]

The only reason these games make money still is cause they’ve been monopolised and the corporation in charge of them all made them all take the same route so now there isn’t a huge game without that p2w aspect so people don’t bother quitting ‘cause all games are like that now’ tempted to just quit gaming altogether which sucks cause I’ve been gaming since a kid

Like make life a game instead think that’s the whole point anyway ppl just be forgetting that cos society

[undone dew]

Ye the p2w aspect was always there and prolly always will be. I remember playing back in the day and the only way to progress (to higher tiers of pvp or in general) was thru VIP legends

[tender idol]

They were attainable thru wars still though and that made wars 10x more fun

[undone dew]

I remember only having to purchase i may be wrong i was just a kid back then

But yeah wars are only for runes now i guess

[tender idol]

Na you could save up war coins and buy legendaries that were good

Santerion and them you had to buy afaik

But every now and then you’d get a decent legendary like that just not the best in the game like santerion

[undone dew]

But those were only the bodyguards or generals no?

[lean elbow]

Guys can someone pls help me teams to build? Cnt share sc here

[lean elbow]

Yea peak times

[tender idol]

Yeah they were but I’m pretty sure you could also get a decent legendary playing the game sometimes too

[wheat quiver]

you couldn't get VIPs in team shop

[lean elbow]

I named my generals based on fairy tale anime which was going on

[tender idol]

And that’s an acceptable level of p2w it’s like 20% is p2w 80% isn’t it’s the opposite way round now

Not in team shop but about in the game like saving up gems for a chest etc

Also means when you took out the p2w it felt very rewarding now it’s like

Great one p2w down 200 to go

[wheat quiver]

there's not really any disparity between f2p and p2w anymore other than 14s which to be fair is a pretty big one

[lean elbow]

Yea but they will hand out ancestrals like water in a gew years

Few

[wheat quiver]

currently they're going for the method of making the outdated ones unobtainable and costing hard cash only

[lean elbow]

??I literally have them playing f2p

Not even good clan

[undone dew]

Btw I’ve picked anwir as a first ancestors. Did I do a dumb decision? I needed support and saw he’s A-tier

[wheat quiver]

how can you get like diabolus my guy

if you look closely at the lamp

it doesn't include all ancestors

[wheat quiver]

yeah low key 😭

its not too bad though

[lean isle]

You can get him in the general conjuring

[wheat quiver]

cuz you didn't invest many cells ig

[lean elbow]

I said above they will make ancestrals available few years from now

And they farmable using treasure cave

[wheat quiver]

you can get him in the general conjuring, but can you get him in the general conjuring?

[wheat quiver]

bros seen the future

[lean isle]

I have 3000 tickets

[lean elbow]

Myhtics were difficult to get before they easy now its the pattern u mentioned

[wheat quiver]

I think you gotta look at the odds for the ancestor eggs in the general conjuring

[undone dew]

I’ve been spamming the lamp conjuring. Who should I get next tho? I’ve been thinking about lord nebotus or torog

[wheat quiver]

mythics were never difficult to get

I didn't play cosmic or og mythic era

[tropic falcon]

Treasure cave does not like me man 😪

[wheat quiver]

but ever since corrupted at least it hasn't been hard

[tame axle]

no hounene

@wheat quiver i give up mygems

[wheat quiver]

hounen

[undone dew]

They were a bit harder back in the day but mythics are new legendaries I guess

[lean isle]

I have only gotten one ancestor from the general conjuring and it was 20 cells

[tropic falcon]

I been around since og mythic era Ive taken a lot of breaks though

[wheat quiver]

im tax collector gimme those gems

[tame axle]

i hve only

3 gems

[undone dew]

Ye I’ve been thinking about him too. Thank you

[wheat quiver]

I've spent many hundreds of thousands of tickets on that conjuring and only got one egg there ever😭

[wheat quiver]

gl

[lean isle]

Who's egg was it?

[wheat quiver]

evaris

I already had him ranked so I wasn't too happy about that

[tropic falcon]

Damn

[undone dew]

Btw should I push more caves today I’ve spent like 120gems or so already but got decent runs today. Heard that when it’s going good the whole dayll do good too

Don’t wanna be greedy tho

[wheat quiver]

if you have a lot of gems

there's no reason you cant

[undone dew]

90 left lol

[wheat quiver]

ah that's getting kinda low

[tropic falcon]

I got out on room 3 like 6 times today

[undone dew]

I did a dumb decision when I came back to the game last week and spent 100 on some but I don’t remember on what lol

[wheat quiver]

😭

[tame axle]

me with 1 gem

[wheat quiver]

treasure cave has been an opp to me 😭

[tropic falcon]

Whered the other two go 😭😭

[wheat quiver]

fr

[tame axle]

it went to

apple tax horyan took it away

[lean isle]

I had 200 gems and I spent them all on retrying treasure caves because I got nothing good

[tropic falcon]

Son 😭

[lean isle]

I have 31 now

[tame axle]

happanes br

[tropic falcon]

I cant even get to room 10 if I tried

[wheat quiver]

relatable

[tame axle]

me to

[wheat quiver]

I refuse to believe people saying to go on caves on good days because I don't think good days exist😭

[tame axle]

true

[tender idol]

Also 70% of the mythics are behind paywalls

[tropic falcon]

Im saying bro

[lean isle]

I got to room 9 today and o got nothing good + there was no tickets in 15, 20 and maybe 25

[wheat quiver]

fr?

its just the 2 glp ones

[tropic falcon]

No??

[tender idol]

The ones without a paywall are typically b to f tier

[tame axle]

@wheat quiver is red eye rogter worh it

he looks op

[tropic falcon]

Hes A+ in pvp

[wheat quiver]

worth what

[tender idol]

The bounty hunts and stuff are good but aside from that they don’t give out good mythics rly

[tame axle]

to get

to use

[wheat quiver]

I mean you can get any mythic starting from misery and lower

[tropic falcon]

Lowk its crazy to see Dame in the same tier as red eye rodger

[wheat quiver]

if you have a team which has the cells

[tender idol]

Like I always get bad mythics out of chests out the dungeon like the rageaster thing I got a c tier of the earlier era

[lean isle]

last bounty hunt was trash with the options

[wheat quiver]

where are you getting this that tier list feels kinda chopped 😭

[tame axle]

horyan team is goated

[wheat quiver]

ohh he's in the challenge

[tame axle]

join him

[wheat quiver]

yeah he's really good

[tropic falcon]

Unified era ranking on the competitive wiki

[wheat quiver]

s tier recruitmenr

Roger in same tier as dame is wild😭

[tame axle]

im the best bruh

[tropic falcon]

Im saying 😭😭

[tame axle]

[steel valley]

I just hit a 0.14% chance in the conjuring :D

[wheat quiver]

is voreth still a on the comp wiki or something

[tame axle]

me hounene when god

[wheat quiver]

gg what'd you get?

[tender idol]

Unless my lucks terrible and I constantly get bad things but there’s only so many times that can happen before it’s the game being the issue

[tropic falcon]

Hes S tier

[wheat quiver]

LMAO

[tame axle]

lol

[steel valley]

0 shallinar cells after 1600 tickets

[tender idol]

The cave gives a god run once in a while but that’s how casinos go

[tropic falcon]

Me too

[wheat quiver]

😭 😭

[tropic falcon]

I got the egg tho

[wheat quiver]

I really hope you get her soon

[tame axle]

happens

[tropic falcon]

[wheat quiver]

or her cells

[tame axle]

me no hounen even after 6.5k tickets

[wheat quiver]

after waiting so long... you deserve a wicked gaia ancestor, especially one as good as this

[wheat quiver]

get up from 1 gem first to get hounen

[tropic falcon]

90% of wicked gaia is corrupted era and legendaries 😭

[steel valley]

I already have, I'm just trying to get her r5 lol

[tame axle]

trust

[lean isle]

95%

[tropic falcon]

Fair enough

[wheat quiver]

nicee

[steel valley]

I'm just keeping track of the bad rng because it sounds more impressive out or context

[lean isle]

There's one doomed one feral and one misery

[tropic falcon]

If only sp made an ancestor dungeon for diabolus

[tropic falcon]

😭

[tender idol]

Has anyone tried boycotting the game before lol

[wheat quiver]

🔥

ml players favourite hobby

[tropic falcon]

Nah

[lean isle]

all grass elements aswell

[tropic falcon]

Nothing could change how money hungry sp is

[wheat quiver]

like getting everyone to stop playing?

[tender idol]

Could def work if all the top people did it together

[wheat quiver]

this happened in like abyssal era when everything went to poo everyone quit

[tender idol]

I reckon anyway like what are they gonna do about that

[wheat quiver]

and they kept going

believe me people have tried a lot lol😭

[steel valley]

644 gems remain
To the cave I will soon return

[tender idol]

I quit couple eras before that cause I noticed that trend happening in metropolitan era

[fading meteor]

What’s poppin

[tropic falcon]

Was I the only one who liked metropolitan era

[wheat quiver]

nice, how many cells so far?

[tender idol]

I noticed when all the metropolitan f2p mythics were terrible

[steel valley]

800

[lean isle]

I did

[tender idol]

Like actual dog other than the fire guy

[wheat quiver]

🔥

[tender idol]

Rah zul or whatever

[tropic falcon]

Ngl there hasnt been a good era since Corrupted and doomed

[wheat quiver]

rah zhul was galactic

[wheat quiver]

it depends how you define good era ig

[tropic falcon]

My least favorite investment

[wheat quiver]

as in good monsters there's been very strong ones

[tender idol]

Gahy zuhl*

[wheat quiver]

but yeah I don't think they topped doomed in just being fun

[wheat quiver]

oh he was the goat

I remember

[lean isle]

Blossom is worse because on one hand you got king atum and on the other you got master pet

[wheat quiver]

hounen before hounen tbh

[tender idol]

Corrupted was a good era I remember pandalf anwrickah and mouseron being my team

And only that magic pierce guy could really win against me

[steel valley]

I'll let yall know if I hit the amazing 0.027% chance of no cells after five 5x pulls

[wheat quiver]

absolute zero spekthra

[tropic falcon]

I cant get r5 primerion or diabolus anymore 😭

Damn you sp

[wheat quiver]

😱

[tender idol]

That’s why metropolitan was so heavily highlighted as a terrible era after literally one good mythic the rest were dog

[steel valley]

After six I'll just say this game is rigged lol

[wheat quiver]

I think prim is still safe

[tender idol]

For f2p anyway

[tropic falcon]

Hes not in the lamp

[wheat quiver]

it doesn't take that many for me to say it's rigged

[wheat quiver]

nooo😭

[steel valley]

F a i r

[tender idol]

I swear their percentages they claim are lies

[tropic falcon]

I still run primerion on my defense

[tropic falcon]

We’ve been known this lmao

[wheat quiver]

rip most fun ancestor of all time

[tropic falcon]

Indeed indeed

[tender idol]

It’s literally illegal to do that lmao but then again monopolise the market and who’s gonna do anything I suppose

[tropic falcon]

Yo anyone got spare nebotus evil lord cells 🥹

[tender idol]

Just glad I’m not tryna get the new ancestral I’d be pulling. Out my hair

[wheat quiver]

Monopoly?? ml is only holding a monopoly on the genre of games nobody cares about😭

[steel valley]

Join me in never doing cave or conjuring (the last 3 days for me are an exception)

[tropic falcon]

Fair

[wheat quiver]

wait that came out wrong I don't mean turn based are bad 💔

[tender idol]

I reckon you could prolly trace back who owns monster legends to all the other mainstream free games in the mobile market

[wheat quiver]

you can't request nel cells

💔

[steel valley]

TakeTwo, yea

[tropic falcon]

Ye ik 😭

[wheat quiver]

take two is massive

[rigid marlin]

who worth it ancestor

[tender idol]

Oh yeah maybe I’ll join u on that

[rigid marlin]

i have hounen and dame

[tame axle]

yes

[wheat quiver]

but like they're just making a lot of games

[tropic falcon]

Man if I have to do one more survey to get gems im gonna lose it

[tame axle]

i didi in my dreams

[rigid marlin]

what worthit in 3rd

[wheat quiver]

watson

[rigid marlin]

whwt is good attacker

[tender idol]

Even the surveys be rigged😭 amount of times I’m turned away with a few gems after couple mins answering it

[wheat quiver]

you can run hounen as an attacker

[tropic falcon]

Get sibidu and akira cus they revert to monke

[wheat quiver]

sometimes I'm glad there's no surveys in my region

[tropic falcon]

They’re evil

[wheat quiver]

there's a lot of ancestors which do that tbh 😭

[tropic falcon]

Half the time they just disqualify you for the fun of it

And I get one gem

[steel valley]

Yas

[tender idol]

I’m unsure why I even get 90% of my surveys when they’re not even ‘my target demographic’ like I’ve put my details beforehand to avoid that so why put that survey there for me

They’re so baity

[tropic falcon]

Im saying

And those are the ones that have a ton of gems

[tender idol]

Yeah I’ve got the big gems one once I was kinda shocked when I did cause half the time if you get late into it they break on you to give you no gems

[steel valley]

I'm like 3% sure that they do that to avoid needing to give gems to you and therefore also not needing to pay sp

And they still get data even if you aren't the target demographic

[tender idol]

Yeah absolutely certain on that less gems paid = more money

I mean call me a conspiracy theorist but I think if a megacorp runs the game they also run the surveys

[tropic falcon]

Makes sense

[tender idol]

Hence why the surveys feel as broken as the game lmao

[steel valley]

I think tapjoy belongs to unity

[tender idol]

Name ‘unity’ = megacorp

All ties back to black rock ultimately if I had to guess

[hearty dagger]

☠️Broken Oath☠️ is recruiting! NEW team
Looking for
experienced players with at least 4500 MP with up to date monsters
Requires
5/6 attacks in war, 2k points in race, and prep beforehand

[steel valley]

True

[tardy topaz]

Anyone wanna 1v1?

[tender idol]

They don’t do it to make immediate money it’s tied into the geopolitical situations of the world as a whole altogether it’s like chess

I’m just an annoyed ant in the grand scheme of things lol

Anyone know any decent games that you have to pay for?

[tardy topaz]

Why do surveys, to tasks

[tender idol]

Yeah I do tasks they’re less rigged for sure, still a bit though like I try Amazon prime for free and the link doesn’t work but is what it is

Got a free pair of boxers last week and 150 gems so still better than any other offers

I suppose

[steel valley]

I like bloons td 6

[tardy topaz]

Different for everyone

[steel valley]

To the cave I will now return

[tender idol]

Yeah I played btd too much already it’s boring to me now

[tardy topaz]

Horyan talm bout some 2k after 10 minutes task but if ur like me u prolly just got trash ones that give 10 after 2k minutes instead

[tender idol]

If he got that then he’s paid for it

Like you can get gems at a somewhat ok price but shouldn’t have to pay for gems at all

[tardy topaz]

U cant pay to get tasks

[versed galleon]

There are some donation tasks

[tender idol]

No most tasks you need to pay to complete them

[wheat quiver]

i haven't spent for any tasks

[tender idol]

There’s literally a shopping section haven’t you seen it

[wheat quiver]

I don't trust tapjoy enough

[tardy topaz]

Yeah But you cant spend to get a task and horyan said he had to play so he couldnt have payed

[tender idol]

The products are always terrible and pointless tho

Or some temu looking scam product

[tame axle]

gmail emily

[tardy topaz]

Fair

[burnt holly]

Yo

[tame axle]

ggs ez

[wheat quiver]

😭

[terse zenith]

Ohh tej is here

Or noat is here lol

[burnt holly]

Rule 1 don't trust tapjoy
Rule 2 remember rule one
Rule 3 always follow rule 1

[terse zenith]

Bro exams over finally free

[burnt holly]

Nice pro

[terse zenith]

1 and 2

[tender idol]

To be fair tapjoys been good to me for most part

[tame axle]

dont trust em

[terse zenith]

Surely failed maths though

[tame axle]

trust me

[tender idol]

Like I always get gems from doing the games

[burnt holly]

Nu uh you goat bro

[tardy topaz]

I mean tap joy isnt bad from my experience, when i reported a task i didnt get rewarded for i got my gems unlike The company stumble guys had tasks with

[wheat quiver]

tapjoy doesn't pay out much for me and half the team the task is over before it begins for me because it will just never pay

[tender idol]

Unless I didn’t properly install straight off link then it can be weird

[steel valley]

T r u e

[burnt holly]

A lot of people didn't get their gems from tasks which is kinda unfair

[terse zenith]

Nu uhhh maths was nightmare for my most of topper friends lol

[tardy topaz]

Just contact and they give, thats what happened to me

[burnt holly]

Taco pro

[tender idol]

I mean maybe they target people cause they know if they scammed me I’m just straight up packing bags n quitting

[versed galleon]

Not to me

[steel valley]

Am not pro, you pro

[burnt holly]

Yeah people do contact and show all proof some still don't get anything

[tender idol]

It’s typesh they do

Is the offers a good source of gems for long term? I feel like a certain point I will have drained all the gems out the easy to get gem games

[tardy topaz]

Then they dont show what they where supposed to, happened to me But i reread what they told me to do and it turns out u had to verify a specific way they tell you too, those ppl u mean probably sent a proof to tap joy that they dont accept

[tender idol]

Maybe I already have

[wheat quiver]

r5 shallinar finally (or at least after era saga drops) 😭 😭

[burnt holly]

Not really they run out eventually

[wheat quiver]

what a miserable grind

[tender idol]

Cause aint no way I’m doing surveys every week for gems they’re so bad

[burnt holly]

Apply to souls lair

[wheat quiver]

🔥

[tender idol]

Gem dungeons daily should be a thing from easy to hard maybe add an insane version every weekend that gives 25 gems

[wheat quiver]

give me your 14s and I can

[wheat quiver]

fr even hard dungeons are a total joke and full of like legendaries

[tender idol]

Boycott until it happens

I wish actually hard dungeons existed would bring some spice to the game again

[versed galleon]

Sp wouldn't even care

[tender idol]

For the people who reached level 100s finally so it starts off like the cells dungeons

[tardy topaz]

Im playing a hard dungeon rn anf i just one tap all of them

[burnt holly]

I don't have a lot only 19

[tender idol]

Yeah I mean like actually hard lol not that ‘hard gems dungeon’

[versed galleon]

Sp wouldn't care lol

[tender idol]

I was near one tapping with my metropolitans still after coming back to the game and they’re 5y old again the dungeons haven’t changed at all in the entire games history

[dire coyote]

When is the new update coming

[tender idol]

It’s all not changed for most part it’s stale

New update? Wdym

[hardy dawn]

How much coins does it cost to get the rainbow pack on the Ra Mon path

[dire coyote]

New souls event

[tender idol]

Afaik the one thing that’s changed in near the entire history is adding ancestrals which is rly a covert way of adding a slot machine to the game

[wheat quiver]

then you won't mind giving them to me

[tame axle]

give me some

[tender idol]

So they just added pure gambling to the game in the past decade rly and that’s it oh and also made maze coin dungeons severely merged

[tame axle]

i need to move from level 4

[tender idol]

Nerfed*

[wheat quiver]

3 14s gauntah

tuff

[fringe ridge]

How come i dont have any tasks for gems only ads in monsterwood

[tame axle]

wdym bro

[tardy topaz]

They should add ancestors to hard dungeons and level The mosnters up, there like lvl 70 rn

[wheat quiver]

you might not have tasks in your region or you might have set your age too low

[tender idol]

? What do you mean

[hardy dawn]

How much coins does it cost to get the rainbow pack on the Ra Mon path

[wheat quiver]

who would you put 14s on then

[tender idol]

I’ve never had gems only in the monster wood

[steel valley]

Inclusive yes

[tame axle]

noobie

[hardy dawn]

Huh

[tame axle]

its on volcyanx

[tender idol]

Not sure it goes up rapidly tho and I got it only to get a repeat rainbow card when I only got 4/10 lol

[tame axle]

[wheat quiver]

like 1700

[tender idol]

In other words prolly not worth it I’d assume that pack is rigged for most part

[wheat quiver]

rn

[steel valley]

All of the coins (this is very useless information)

[hardy dawn]

Is there a discount later?

[wheat quiver]

yes but after ra mon path expires

[hardy dawn]

….

[tender idol]

I’d wait for the obsidian chest or something that might actually be obtainable if you save all your coins up

[hardy dawn]

Oh…..:/

[tame axle]

ggs

[tardy topaz]

Horyan how many maze coins u got

[tender idol]

Is there an ai to help farm for this game

[celest peak]

no***

[wheat quiver]

not much cuz I just blew them all on a holo 😭

[tender idol]

Cause maze coins are annoying to get

[wheat quiver]

just log on every 4 hours

[tardy topaz]

Is it worth it

[tender idol]

I do it’s still kind of annoying

[tardy topaz]

I have 1,3k

[tame axle]

i have

[tender idol]

You should’ve got it when there was a discount

[celest peak]

You dont have to play the game if you dont enjoy it

[wheat quiver]

if you can get a lot of coins

[tender idol]

It’s not that I don’t enjoy it altogether I like the pvp but pretty much all other aspects aren’t enjoyable

All the grinding parts and ads popping up every couple mins and having to watch ads every day it’s all very tedious

[hearty dagger]

☠️Broken Oath☠️ is recruiting! NEW team
Looking for
experienced players with at least 4500 MP with up to date monsters
Requires
5/6 attacks in war, 2k points in race, and prep beforehand

@raven plaza check pings

[celest peak]

Experienced players but at least 4.5k mp??

[tardy topaz]

How many

[wheat quiver]

depends ig

you don't really need to save much at all if your doing well on event board

but 6000 coins is for 8 tokens on 20% discount I think

so if you need tokens I'd suggest that over the holo

[tender idol]

Yeah don’t be me and getting a duplicate holo doesn’t feel good

[celest peak]

The star drop chests are a scam

[tender idol]

Fact it only gives you 100 points for it too is crazy that should be like 500 alone

[celest peak]

Opened at least 10 so far, all i get is cells

[tame axle]

true

[celest peak]

Havent seen a single card pack or "guaranteed new card"

[tender idol]

Well you can go to their shop and buy them!.!!

[steel valley]

Not only did I hit the 0.027%, I hit the 0.0052% after that

[tender idol]

Only £10+ yay

To get a mythic(not even ancestral) that won’t even be viable 3 months from now

[wheat quiver]

NO WAY THEY BLOCKED THAT WORD

[steel valley]

An ancestor egg from general conjuring is more likely

[wheat quiver]

the mythics not viable now😭

[steel valley]

Wut

[tender idol]

I was planning on quitting after getting an ancestral from general conjuring but I fear I’ll be here still in 5 years if I did that

[wheat quiver]

you can't say goofy ahh

but with s instead of h

[tender idol]

More like 15 considering the percentages are lies

[steel valley]

Oh yea that's a bad word now (cuz they said so)

[steel valley]

WHAT IS THIS RNG

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wheat quiver]

didn't use to be like that 😭

[steel valley]

Yea

It's been blocked for a while tho iirc

[wheat quiver]

💔 💔

[tender idol]

Ahh literally means donkey

Then again bih means dog

[wheat quiver]

😭

[steel valley]

Yea but it's never used like that

[distant trail]

Gems

[steel valley]

Atp do I just stop gambling like b r u h

[wheat quiver]

I would flush my device down the toilet

[hardy dawn]

So tuff roburbur

[steel valley]

546 gems remain

[tame axle]

give me 400

[wheat quiver]

I give you the rest of my luck

[tender idol]

I mean old style people use bih like that I’m sure

[tame axle]

tke my luck bruh

[steel valley]

Thank you, I'll need it 😭

[tender idol]

Surveys are only better than tasks once you exhausted the gems from doing the best tasks

And that’s if the tasks aren’t feeling evil and deciding to keep breaking on you

[hardy dawn]

Idek what tasks are good 🙏

[steel valley]

Back to the cave I go, hopefully I don't hit the 0.00101% chance (this is less likely than getting a specific architect egg in general conjuring)

[nocturne apex]

#players-chat

[wheat quiver]

I don't know if you should try the lottery today or stay far away

[tender idol]

You know the cave is rigged some days to not let you win right?

[steel valley]

Ikr

[tender idol]

Otherwise you’re just wasting gems

[steel valley]

I'm not talking about cave; cave is going fine
Conjuring is the problem here

[tender idol]

Like today was that day for me tried 3 times after first run didn’t get further than room 7

[steel valley]

I've done a total of 30 draws since I last got a shallinar cell

[dawn heron]

how do i finish the event board i can never get them finished in time

[tender idol]

Oh yeah na thats just rigged gl

I’d wait a bit if I were you maybe till next week they might update the chances

[tardy topaz]

Source?

@tender idol

[fading meteor]

He’s just unlucky and exaggerates

[sharp flame]

Trust me bro

[fading meteor]

It’s not rigged on certain days, you’re just unlucky on certain days

[steel valley]

After what level of bad rng does it swap from unlucky to rigged

[crisp notch]

Basically, to complete the event board, a player needs to purchase the legends passes and collect almost all of the tokens available in tales, equipment challenge, bounty hunt, and race (along with a few tokens from maze/cards/colosseum) for both seasons of the board

[dawn heron]

dang thanks you

[fading meteor]

Idk for me at least every 9 tries I get to 30

I tried to write down where the dude was in each pot to see if I could derive some formula but nah

[steel valley]

I'm at 10 tries since I've last made it to 15 and for conjuring I'm at 2 decimal places before the first significant figure in a percent level of bad luck

[tardy topaz]

Exactly The gif i was gonna send But realised i didnt have pic permmisions lmao

[fading meteor]

What? Just use the summoning of choice dude

[steel valley]

I'm doing shallinar's conjuring... same odds of getting cells/eggs

[sharp flame]

Nah it's not allowed in players chat i have no idea why they made it like this, you can't react to messages and send photos or gifs that's why i like #ml-general-discussion better

[fading meteor]

Oh that’s cooked

[tardy topaz]

Yeah well whatever chat u linked it says for no permission to access

[steel valley]

Yar

[tender idol]

Na it’s something I’ve been told by many of the top players some days when you get a bad few turns to just stop trying

[sharp flame]

Ohh i see, Try requesting roles from the role chat that should give you access to more parts of the server

[tardy topaz]

Lots of gobilns spamming nsfw in servers But i think you should be able to get when u reach like lvl 20 in serv

[tardy topaz]

What do i request

[tender idol]

It’s 101 gambling quit when it’s best to

[sharp flame]

Any ML role should be enough, send there an ss of your level or the number of stars you got in adventure mode

[tender idol]

Instead of being like me 200 gems down trying over and over thinking eventually it will work

It’s not designed to be like that afaik

You can’t brute force it you have to just wait your turn for lucky runs

Which gamblers find very hard to do which is why they’ve made it that way

[tardy topaz]

Vro if someone looses in a match of something and calls The game trash it doesnt mean it is, they werent serious brh

Or they lie

[tender idol]

Well no it’s just basic knowledge of how gambling systems work

[fading meteor]

🫩

[tender idol]

Suppose you can brute force it technically but it’s going to cost more gems

So the gambling machine wins either way

[steel valley]

While it is true that you have good days and bad days with gambling, it's just luck

[fading meteor]

He’s convinced himself he’s right, just forget it let him think that lol

[tardy topaz]

Vro ur spreading missinformation what are we talking abt

[steel valley]

That said, I will continue to complain about not getting any shallinar cells within 30 pulls

[tender idol]

I’ve been doing it for months now and have noted all the patterns on how it works it’s smart and cunning but it def has an algorithm to it, by making you think you can win maybe next time it’s the 101 gambling system technique to make you overspend

Some days itll give better luck than others in the initial runs it’s how it is

[tardy topaz]

You mean becouse its a higher chance of losing The further u go?

[fading meteor]

Dude there’s no pattern lol what are u on

[tender idol]

Gamblers are prolifically impatient they take advantage of that

[tardy topaz]

No some times ur more lucky then other times, thats how chance works

[tender idol]

So for example

[steel valley]

T r u e

[fading meteor]

The chances are against you to begin with, some times you pick all the right choices

[tender idol]

The past two days I had managed to get a run to 30+ within a few turns, today however in 4 turns I didn’t get past 7

Thats designed to be like that

[fading meteor]

You tried 4 times and determined it’s rigged? Alr man

[tender idol]

So that theoretically if I was a real gambler I’d be spending all my gems today to get it again

[sharp flame]

It's just rng

[tardy topaz]

Yeah becouse you got more lucky The first time, doesnt mean its rigged.

[sharp flame]

Git gud

[tender idol]

Well, a typical gambler I mean

[steel valley]

The presence of good and bad days does not necessitate the existence of an algorithm, though an algorithm is entirely possible

[tardy topaz]

Stop spreading missinformation without any source vro

[tender idol]

It needs an algorithm in order to be addictive and therefore make money

An algorithm is what makes it so catchy

[tardy topaz]

No it doesnt, it aint a casino bro😭

[tender idol]

I’m not saying it’s absolutely true believe what you like but alternatively have you not considered you could be the one spreading misinformation saying it has no algorithm?

So who’s to say who’s right I’m just stating my opinion

That is backed by mathematical analaysus

As of so far and backed by what I have heard veterans tell me

[tardy topaz]

🤦

[tender idol]

Don’t hate the player hate the game

[fading meteor]

In code, there’s no true randomness, however it’d take an extremely high amount of outputs and knowledge to somehow reverse the seed or something, some 15 yo kid on his iPad will not crack the code lol

[wheat quiver]

I refuse to believe in good or bad days cause there are no good days

[tender idol]

Yeah no it’s designed so you can’t beat it

[steel valley]

T r u e

[tender idol]

That’s the point it’s rigged as is casinos

But you can play it in such a way to maximise the amount you can win

[steel valley]

491 gems to go

[fading meteor]

You woke up and typed this, that’s already a plus

[tardy topaz]

No, you said that it is like that not that you think it is like that so no u werent.

[wheat quiver]

woah I didn't mean in a depression sort of way I just meant in treasure cave lol

[fading meteor]

Lolll

I’ve had many good days it’s definitely not “rigged” even though he’s just ragebaiting

[tender idol]

I’m repeating what veterans have said on how it works and I’m now seeing the trend for myself clear as day from the way it’s gone in the past 3 days and it makes sense it is like this as it would maximise their revenue from people who don’t know when to stop

Ie gamblers

[fading meteor]

Yea maybe don’t regurgitate words you hear online as if it’s gospel

[tender idol]

I notice what the top players do and see the reasoning behind it then reformat it in an analysis if you don’t wanna believe what I say you’re free to do do it’s the internet at end of the day

[hearty dagger]

real

[fading meteor]

“Analysis” and it’s just getting unlucky lol

[hearty dagger]

pretty sure you're spewing crap and trying to use big words to sound smart

so chill out bro

[tender idol]

That numerous people experience I’m just finding the general trend out now

[fading meteor]

👌all u man

[tender idol]

Na I’m just not stupid lol

[royal palm]

Please edit swear out.

[hearty dagger]

sorry, i didnt think abt it

[tender idol]

It’s kinda basic maths, it’s a slot machine and works like one sometimes it’s luckier other times not some days it gives a lucky start other times it doesn’t

The smartest way to do it is play it so if it gives a lucky run then try a few more times and every weekend to try multiple times regardless afaik

[hearty dagger]

well yeah 😭

[fading meteor]

“It’s kinda basic maths” and you call yourself smart but can’t distinguish between correlation vs causation

[tender idol]

The initial luck resets per day so finding the days you’re lucky and trying then is best

Why are you getting aggy for lol did I touch a nerve

[steel valley]

Ok the bad streak is broken

[hardy dawn]

Guys I got 1000 tickets from 20 gems…….
So tuff

[steel valley]

W

[fading meteor]

Lemme break this down for u take your pen and paper out,
Simply because you notice a pattern does not prove a cause, you forget all the good runs you have as a form of confirmation bias, can’t even notice that each outcome is independent, losing yesterday and today doesn’t make u any more or less lucky since the result is predetermined when you click enter

[hardy dawn]

I spent them and got no ancestor cells or eggs 🙏

[tender idol]

I’m just exposing the treasure cave for how it works which I’ve been tryna figure out over a week for anyone else who’s wondering so they can also win as much as possible in it if they wish to do so

[steel valley]

Ouch

[hardy dawn]

Huh?

[tender idol]

Yeah you might get two lucky days in a row like I did

[fading meteor]

😭😭😭

[tender idol]

Then followed by unlucky day

[hardy dawn]

I don’t think it can be predicted bru

[fading meteor]

Dude thinks he can crack the code there’s very bright ppl in the world who would love to find out how to determine gambling outcomes like this but can’t, wanna guess why?

[tender idol]

Or 8 unlucky in a row it’s random but sometimes you get a lucky few times on a particular day I got that a couple days ago

[hardy dawn]

Gimme ur luck

[hearty dagger]

no you're just ragebaiting lol

[tender idol]

I’ve never got that before till then

[hardy dawn]

It’s just luck bro

[fading meteor]

It’s hard to tell ngl he keeps goin

[hearty dagger]

i literally lost 5 times in a row then got a run all the way to 55 with 3 traps yesterday

[tender idol]

Yeah luck mixed with a touch of algorithmic rigging so it’s got an addictive element to it

Like every other aspect to their game lol

[hardy dawn]

There is no algorithmic rigging…..

[fading meteor]

Dudes never touched any coding editor talm bout algorithmic rigging

[steel valley]

You don't want my luck, earlier I had a streak of getting 0 ancestor cells from a total of 30 pulls... that's a 0.00525% chance

[tender idol]

Like literally every other aspect is like that why would the peak of the money making not also follow suit

It’s 1+1 to draw that conclusion

[fading meteor]

Bro that’s genuinely insane

[hardy dawn]

I haven’t even gotten a hounen cell since he came out……..and I spent like thousands of tickets :()

[tender idol]

Casinos don’t make money by being truly random

[steel valley]

It's more likely to get an egg from general conjuring

[fading meteor]

💀

That’d make me wanna quit ngl

[steel valley]

Dang

[hardy dawn]

They have a slight edge yes…..it’s like 1-3%

[tender idol]

They add an element of algorithms in it it’s why they don’t like the people who play them back and ban card counters for example

[hardy dawn]

I got 1 egg of him thats it

[tender idol]

It’s why my opinions unpopular right now cause it’s the truth most likely

[hardy dawn]

Bro is not onto something

[fading meteor]

Let’s say you are correct hypothetically, what next? What changes? You cannot derive the formula or the seed, it doesn’t change anything

[hardy dawn]

Didn’t we have a guy like this in like early 2025

[fading meteor]

Prolly same dude on an alt

[wheat quiver]

how are we arguing over ts😭

[hardy dawn]

Nah it’s some tinfoil hat guy trust

[tender idol]

Yeah it doesn’t change much it’s just more awareness on the fact it can’t be ‘won’ in particular other than having patience and not overspending

[wild dune]

Bagel🤤

[fading meteor]

Just don’t look and walk along guys

[steel valley]

You'd be surprised how easily addicted people are to basic luck. If you gamble with a couple of friends, it's still gambling. It's still incredibly unlikely to win. It's still addicting.

But it's just the luck of the cards

[wild dune]

nah i count card

[hardy dawn]

Bagel 🥯

[sharp flame]

Exactly and don't trust your gut because it will betray you

[steel valley]

As a person who has previously made a tinfoil hat, idk how to feel about this

[hardy dawn]

…isn’t that banned in casinos?

[fading meteor]

So all that for a grass is green, sky is blue take? “Don’t overspend gems” thanks bro that’s revolutionary

[tender idol]

Yeah true and the difference is casinos bet real money so I doubt they’re rigged the exact same or anything but I do think there’s a tiny element of it in there at least in the first few pulls

[wheat quiver]

tinfoil hatters catching strays

[tender idol]

So sometimes you get a really good run within first 5 draws or so

[wild dune]

Only if u get caught

[tender idol]

Of each day

So that’s the sweet spot

[hardy dawn]

Isn’t that just called luck?

[steel valley]

Imma have a weird al song stuck in my head for the rest of the day so imma head out for a bit

[hardy dawn]

Cya

[wild dune]

cya

[fading meteor]

It goes in one ear out the other, just walk along I been trying to explain to this dude for a minute

[hearty dagger]

ALUMINUM FOIL... FOIIILLLLL NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS

THAT KIND OF WRAP IS JUST THE BEST

[fading meteor]

Adios amigo

[hearty dagger]

TO KEEP YOUR SANDWICH NICE AND FRESH

[hardy dawn]

Some people never changed ig

[tender idol]

Yeah they give luckier starts on some days is what I’m getting at though

[steel valley]

THE KINDA WRAP THATS JUST THE BEST
TO KEEP YOUR SANDWICH NICE AND FRESH

[hearty dagger]

STICK IT IN YOUR COOLER... COOOOLLLEERRRR

[wheat quiver]

🗣️

[steel valley]

EAT IT WHEN UR READYYY

[hearty dagger]

OR MAYBE YOU'LL CHOOSEE

[restive prism]

U just described anything that needs luck and timing and good decisions... without any of those u lose and feel bad

[steel valley]

A REFRESHING HERBAL TEA

[hearty dagger]

MMMMM LOVELY

[steel valley]

OH BY THE WAY IVE CRACKED THE COOOODE

[hardy dawn]

Bro…….u think they’re setting times at which luck is boosted…….

[hearty dagger]

IVE FIGURED OUT THESE SHADOW ORGANIZATIONS

[hardy dawn]

What code?

[steel valley]

AND THE ILLUMINATI KNOWWWWWS

[hearty dagger]

THAT THEY'RE FINALLY PRIMED

[steel valley]

FOR WORLD DOMINATION

[hearty dagger]

AND SO YOU'VE GOT BLACK HELICOPTERS COMIN CROSS THE BORDER

[hardy dawn]

True tinfoil hat type stuff

[fading meteor]

Wait a minute the luck is rigged for sunny weather trust me since it’s sunny you’ll go outside and won’t gamble on the cave

[steel valley]

PUPPET MASTERS FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER

[hearty dagger]

BE AWARE... THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE THATS WATCHING YOU

[wild dune]

i like bagel

[steel valley]

AND SO THE GOVERNMENT WONT ADMIT THEY FAKED THE WHOLE MOON LANDING

[sharp flame]

Is this conspiracy theories gathering

[fading meteor]

There’s no moon btw

[hearty dagger]

THOUGHT CONTROL RATE SYCOTRONIC SCANNING

[fading meteor]

It’s just a hologram in the sky

[hardy dawn]

True tinfoil hat guys going through the whole spectrum

[restive prism]

Its not about days, and its usually bad as thev% fluctuates but 25% to lose is bad. have u ever made tens of runs in a row (retries) yo try and get a good cheap run?

[steel valley]

DONT MIND THAT, IM PROTECTED CUZ I MADE THIS HAT

[tender idol]

Yeah my point is there isn’t much point in spending more than 15 gems on repeating runs if the runs aren’t going past level 10

[hearty dagger]

FROM ALUMINUM FOIILLLLLLL

[hearty dagger]

thats just not true

[steel valley]

(FOILLLLL)
WEAR A HAT THATS FOIL LINED

[hearty dagger]

IN CASE OF ALIENS INCLINED

[steel valley]

TO PROBE... (im not finishing this line in a public "family friendly" server)

[hearty dagger]

SEEMS A BIT PECULIAR... (PECULIARRRR)

[hearty dagger]

lmaoo

[steel valley]

MAYBE EVEN CRAZYYY

[hearty dagger]

BUT SOMEDAY ILL PROVE (ILL PROVE, ILL PROVE), ILL PROVE)

[restive prism]

No point the howd u get the new ancestor? Runes are gambled too to get 14s because it turns uout cheaper when u hit

[fading meteor]

Would yall think aliens if they were on a planet similar to ours would look like us? What I’m getting at is there alien baddies

[steel valley]

THAT THERES A BIG CONSPIRACY

[burnt holly]

Goat

[hearty dagger]

🔫

[steel valley]

I applaud, thank you

[hearty dagger]

yessir pleasure singing with you

[burnt holly]

pro

[hearty dagger]

ur more pro

[tender idol]

I got my ancestors by following my rule lol which I got from the people with maxed ancestors it’s about knowing when to stop spending

[burnt holly]

Nuh uh that's not true I am the noat

[hearty dagger]

Nuh uh ur the goat

[fading meteor]

@sharp flame I defend with a singular monster that I’ve never used, my attack teams are the same as defence I just swap them around when I attack

I can send u an image in dm

[hearty dagger]

well obviously but thwy stop the run and start again

[restive prism]

We are all goats. I just felt the most goat after being humbled by cave and conjuring. 1300 for 1750 and egg

[hearty dagger]

as someone woth like 5 or 6 maxed ancestors who's mostly f2p, ik

[hearty dagger]

ouch

[tender idol]

I did that and 200 gems went down the drain I’m not sure just redoing over and over is a good idea

[restive prism]

Axel was 1400 and i got 5 eggs then to even it out with my truly empty conjures

[burnt holly]

Yeah it sucks sometimes my watson took like 2k gems

[tender idol]

Didn’t do me any good at least

[restive prism]

Same was nebo

[tender idol]

Then my god run was within 4 turns

[burnt holly]

The only time I have got a good ancestor maxed was 700 gems maybe

[wheat quiver]

I feel like the 1k average figure is not accurate 😭

[restive prism]

My usual were around 1000 before now i feel lucky

[tardy topaz]

U spent 1300 gems for that?

[tender idol]

To prove it to myself might aswell try a few more times today I suppose

[restive prism]

With 200s back way less. But ive not had it or 12s in a while

[burnt holly]

It's accurate

[tender idol]

I’ll do 10 runs see how it goes might aswell

[sharp flame]

Yes i use that as well but if you're planning on attacking instead of revenge attacks then use whatever good monsters you have don't just leave it powerless

[wheat quiver]

then I'm not so lucky 💀 😂

[tardy topaz]

Lmao thats allowed?

[burnt holly]

Same I don't think i flat out got any ancestor at 10k tickets. It's always 7-8k tickets ( which is close to 1200 ish gems) or someway around that with more tickets

[sharp flame]

Yes, just switch your attack team to you defense team when you finish attacking

[wild dune]

tacos

[fading meteor]

Yea I do that then 2 hours later I lose bc I defended with some random monster I never even use

[tardy topaz]

Didnt know you could switch that fast, they should patch that icl

[wild dune]

burriots

[hardy dawn]

I spent around 3k tickets and haven’t gotten a single hounen cell yet 🙏

[wheat quiver]

they did

[wild dune]

kfc

[wheat quiver]

💔

[tardy topaz]

First time ever spending tickets i got a golden lamp and got hounen after 400 tickets, that was 5 days ago

[wheat quiver]

I'm lucky with getting the monster but no point if it's not ranked up

[tardy topaz]

I now have him r1,5 and dame

[hardy dawn]

It’s rigged against me 🙁

[tardy topaz]

Press summon 1 instead of 5, trust me it works for me every time

[hardy dawn]

Huh….. but u get 1 less roll?

[wheat quiver]

don't do that 😭

the coolz method

[tardy topaz]

Wait really? Its more expensive???

[tender idol]

Yeah lol so rigged

[hardy dawn]

Yeah 5 rolls is 400 1 roll is 100

[wild dune]

Kentucky

[sharp flame]

It's not a fast switch i wish they had load out for pvp where you can switch instantly but it's still not that slow either you just need to do it manually

[lean isle]

Maths is dead

[tender idol]

4 traps within 10 turns is crazy

[tardy topaz]

Oh shoot then ive wasted like 400

[hardy dawn]

Ur just not gambling right trust

[hardy dawn]

🙏

[tardy topaz]

How is that rigged vro this gotta be ragebait

[tender idol]

Honestly might quit gambling to have to play a game is painful

[tardy topaz]

My math aint dead i just didnt bother checking

[tender idol]

I paid for traps and it keeps giving me them one after another

[hardy dawn]

If it’s for the best

[tardy topaz]

All good man ive still gotten alot in a week

[tender idol]

Cause tickets were on. 20/25 I got to 13 first trap then trap after trap after that

[tardy topaz]

My luck made up for it fs

[tender idol]

If that’s not a hint of rigging idk what is

[lean isle]

This game would be a tiny bit better if they put tickets in the maze, race and maybe a separate tales event

[hardy dawn]

I got like 1000 tickets like an hour ago and didnt get any ancestor cells or eggs

[wheat quiver]

I think there should just be less gambling

[tender idol]

Also of course the tickets were on the final option I picked too

[wheat quiver]

I don't trust them to handle that well though

[hardy dawn]

If they were to do this it’d be for the normal tickets

[tender idol]

Either my luck is non existent orrrr games rigged and my luck is continuously terrible on this game so I mean

[wheat quiver]

at least stop adding these luck mechanics as meta monsters like crit and random damage boost

[fading meteor]

That’s honestly really weird

[tender idol]

Yeah lmao even monsters got rng added this games epitome of a slot machine it seems I think im officially handing in my slip and deleting

Was a good run I suppose

[hardy dawn]

Anywayyyy ima go farm gems to gamble more

I gotta get cells soon I guess

[tender idol]

They won’t change it cause there’ll just be another to take my place so no point hoping it’ll change

[hardy dawn]

Hoping gambling gets removed is like hoping they’ll give everyone a free ancestor….its never happening

Cuz I think they’re getting most of their money from people gambling gems

[lean isle]

monkey paw and they give you the worst one

[tender idol]

At least making it so you don’t HAVE to gamble to get ancestrals at the very least

[hardy dawn]

They give u one of the first ones to get released like Robur 🙏

[tender idol]

It should be a given really

It’s like how in the dungeons the mythic egg dungeon you get the first era mythics like why would I even want that

[hardy dawn]

I mean technically u get like tickets without gambling but it’s the trash tickets or u gotta get a lot of the token things

[wheat quiver]

that's the best one though

[tender idol]

Yeah I think it’s like a 1/2000+ chance though to get an ancestral out of that

And even then you’d prolly get the first era ancestrals most likely lol

[hardy dawn]

Fr we’re not getting that…..

[lean isle]

It should go up to like the blossom or galactic era

[wheat quiver]

we don't deserve robur

[tender idol]

Should I spend 90 gems to keep my 400 tickets and also get to level 25 for 600 tickets?

At this point I might aswell cause I really do think I’ll just delete after anyway im tired of gambling there really is no way to make it work for you

[lean isle]

I want robur so I can name tung tung sahaur

[hardy dawn]

I meannn what stage r u on 21 or smt?

[tender idol]

23

[hardy dawn]

U can’t even get him anymore

[wheat quiver]

you shouldn't have bought 3rd skip in the first place

[tender idol]

so I’ll make it no matter what

[dapper apex]

is hounen zennomusuko good already at r1? or if not, which rank is he good?

[hardy dawn]

I mean if u want to but buying 3rd skip isn’t worth it

[tender idol]

I know but I thought having such bad luck it would give a bit better luck but no

[lean isle]

Triple T is..... lost media

[tender idol]

Cause I got near back to back traps

Then gave another immediate trap lmao

[wheat quiver]

he's ok but should be higher rank

[hardy dawn]

Yeah unless u have him I don’t think u can get cells

[lean isle]

I only have 3 cell for him

[tender idol]

Yeah I know I shouldn’t have but I’m genuinely just giving up on caring really

[dapper apex]

what about neuroshock? does he do good heal?

[hardy dawn]

@wheat quiver is it still possible to get Robur for reaching room 60?

[wheat quiver]

neuroshock is very good but not a healer

[wheat quiver]

its all newer monsters on floor 60

and there's no situation anyway where your guaranteeing a floor 60

[hardy dawn]

Oh so u can’t get Robur egg anymore?

[wheat quiver]

you can from general conjuring

[hardy dawn]

Oh

[restive prism]

Ur problem is ur tilted and u werent playing right at first place.
Set urself general rulesets for what to do and only do logical exceptions or risk if u really dont see progress

[hardy dawn]

That conjuring lwk trash

[tender idol]

Of course game made it my last option again hahahahha can’t make this up

[restive prism]

Good runs are far and cheap. Regular are a lot of bad retries then a fine run that goes far but u end up paying around the tickets worth. If u do end up getting more value than just tickets (a 12 rune, or 200 gems back and so on) its a good run

[weary saffron]

I sell my all ancestrals 😭
Is there any way to get them back ??

[fading meteor]

😬

[tender idol]

Yeah I’d rather not sit doing cave over and over though it gets boring

[hardy dawn]

I don’t even try get the 12 rune cuz like I can’t even equip it yet

[lean isle]

Why would you do that

[wheat quiver]

ask support but bro don't sell your ancestrals 😭

[hardy dawn]

Nope

[stone hawk]

you did WHAT??

[restive prism]

Shouldnt even get close to paying 40. U could risk 40 for room 20 or 25 and if u gotta gem till last u overpay. Its still fine if u had only bad runs like me today

[tender idol]

Is what it is im just having flashbacks of having 20 bad runs in a row I know the game wants to suck my gems like that again

[weary saffron]

Actually my little brother sell my powerfull monsters

[hardy dawn]

What is the cave skip costs?
5
10
40 then what?

[restive prism]

I probably got caught over a 100 times before 4 this time

[lean isle]

90, 180 then I don't know never got that far

[outer patrol]

Hey

[restive prism]

Just trap trap in a row then not tickets on fine runs

[hearty dagger]

okay tgats a skill issue tho

[lean isle]

How many did he sell?

[weary saffron]

My 28 ancestrals