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Nightmareメ if anyone is looking for a team I just started it and would appreciate anyone joining c:
Just got back after years of not playing btw
So max life increase , eldritch , trait protection, aoe team shield , trait protection ??? CAN WE GET MUCH LOWER
What the heck are these traits 😭😭
What is the verdict chat?
How good is voidspawn according to y'all
Instakill 50% 2x
Robur on steriods
He feels disappointing trait-wise but he does have some cool skills ig
Considering that he just acts like Robur though I don't feel like anyone would want that, even if the virtues were good
I just finished a cave of greed
The cave of gambling
That's right, now I'm surprised that they gave me a 3-star monster
@cold ledge who?
Is Vextar good?
Design
i used to go by pvp ranking but i just use my hounen-dame-charm now
valid lol
can i use klark wains and firewarp together
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is the Cosmo Civilizations' Amulet (the emerald relic) that you get at the end of the event board worth it? i have other ancestral amulets that restore allies' stamina and remove opponents' stamina, but this emerald relic gives stamina and health regeneration. is the addition of the two regenerations worth getting the emerald relic?
i mean its good but its expensive to reach the end of the board so eh
Did Hoenen get nerfed?
no
Just yesterday I was able to get him to 10 Damage boosts in order to awaken him going back and forth between his 2 extra turn skills. Now he only gets to 8 charges.
3 from mask 2 from ET 3 from mask 1 from ET
most he can get in 2 turns using ET is 9
Should I buy the second island
Yes
depends if u have unused space, gold to spare, how much gold do u get from monsters and such
Is saika legendary is useful
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is hounen,jungle eagle and alexandrone a good team war team
accept me
First recruitment process
should i buy 20 RER cells for 34gems?
Imo spending gems on mithics in monster lab is lame thing
Not good investment
@zenith relic answer in private message
is it
I don't see synergy here
But if that's war Restriction then u can't do nothing about it
Hello 🙂
What are the best moves and runes for Hounen ?
New ancestor looks booty
rank?
second best monster rn after hounen
Tell me why
tanks aswell as goog debuffer
if he gets first turn its over for other team
Imma get him eirher way, but to me he doesnt seem stronf
One star, lvl 115
five petals
the warrior inside
thousand lanterns
between the worlds
Is there a place I can ask questions?
I have a bunch of mythics and I'm not sure which ones I should hatch first
I didn’t think it through ngl
Thanks 🙂 and for the runes, should I go for speed ?
cycle between five petals and the warrior inside till you're below 92 mana then do thousand lanterns to awaken on first turn
yea go for as much speed as possible
Good to know, Thank you ! 🙂
when you get it to r2 then change between the worlds with last sound
go deal millions 
dm me ig
Alrighty
pair nightmaresaur with hounen and anything good
nightmaresaur with strength build
Rapunstina ?
Hello fellow players of Cashgrab-Legends
works
hi
Is there any monster replacable to hounen
no
Is Adaled a good choice as second Ancestor to go with Hounen ?
Xandrite spellbound can replace hounen since they gives triple dmg virtual too
any mythic/ancestral is good with hounen 
and yes he's very effective with hounen
Wish they made him like a fun new monster, like one that steals stats. He has a new trait that whenever the enemy is under negative effects for each negative effect he steals 5% of their total stats when they take a turn
Guys if I buy the egg hatch speed up how much does it take away
still very good unless using fire tank ancestral or president canine
Yeah its just that i really REALLY love the design and was afraid that the monster wasnt gonna be meta
Yeah😭
yes that's good
no he doesn't
yea he's more of a curser support hybrid
not really a tank at all
And robur never saw play
I got a question in the library how do you get the first stars
Please answer do i need to get the same card 2 times
@scenic bison @summer quest lets finish this lobby guys 👍
44 flipped
yeah lobbies are going fast now
👍
@wind basalt please flip tiles in bounty hunt if you can
My eyes have been opened
New ancestor seems good for wars.
The beginner one
ballaright
id wait for race if u can hold urself
if u mean mythic eras ones ranking all of the monsters to the next rank for example once u get them all u get 2 rune chest "0 star" reward, then when all are r1 u get 4 and such
so its best doing ones low on monsters first like the 3 monster ones and the 2 one- idk if theres any other than sygrid spirit and badolero of alpine era
Anyone looking for a team? New team looking for members
Yeah he 🇼
Ty
Are yall a chill team?
what's your in game name
@rain ivy I apologize to you
Yeahh , there is js me and my friend will join later today
Do yall do races?
Will in the future
This isnt my first team , i was a leader b4 , and im a veteran on a new acc
Can i be part of your team
Ofc!
Im currently in a team but its pretty inactive
After war ima leave
We still at war
I sent you a ss of the team
Ik it's still empty , but im looking into creating an active community
And into talkative members
Would be great if thats the case
Already did that but unfortunately i lost my acc , and i cant get it back , and you could be a possible co-lead eventually
Yey anyways is evil lord nebotus a good attacker in general?
Im really in good need of a good attacker
He was great when he was first out , he is outdated now
Idk if i should invest in him
Whos the best rn? Best attacker
You can look on yt , monster gaming , that dude has some helpfull things , including best attackers , tanks , supports etc.
Thanks man
I can help you with runes btw , ik a lot of ppl just put random health , strenght or speed
I usually just put lvl v runes for unsure monsters
Im saving it for the best of the best
Im still gathering good monsters
Anyways you got any ancestors that are real good in general?
Tbf all of them can be used still , minster gaming also has ancestor tierlists , and he makes reviews of all new monsters
You should put like lvl 3 , so when u later remove them you don't spend gems
How do i get lot of high lvl runes?
Tbh it just comes when u play the game , you have dungeons and all the other events
Do you have any friends or smth who can also join? Sooner we get more members sooner will we start with wars
how do you get permission to conjuriing?
you have to reach certain level i believe
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Guys i really need 1.5 million to hatch my legendary
This is going to take forever
Pandaken farm
It's great for getting enough gold for legendary and mythic habitat at the start
and how do you do that
get xp from different activities like growing food, doing adventure map etc
Where do I find that
once i had one mythic they began expanding and boom now i get like 20 million gold smtg a day
i also have an ancestor which is president canine
You just breed pandakens(breed treezard and firesaur) and build a lot of fire and nature habitats
He's real good
Ty but it was to late for my legendary
his skills are hard to counter so im like so pumped
i gave him 2 monsters that have possession skills like lord hayman and ghoulosus
Agh alrr , well good luck , any chance you need a team?
Those 2 are kinda out dated now
Yeahh trur
its hard cause I don't have much mythics with possession skills
Yeah fairs
What level are you supposed to be to be in a team
14
Agh alrr
Well you have a spot in my team when you reach level 16 , come and grow with us!
i have president canine in my inventory rn cause I'm already breeding and hatching like 4 eggs 😭😭😭
Unlucky
Do you know if obsidiane good
That my second legendary
i wanted to get barbatos rex so i was doing the lineage
He is good for starters
I should die
and dark voltaik
But you really want to get ur hands on some mythics
😂
That not going to happen in a long time right
So it not that deep
im level 74....
How long does it take to breed a legendary
U recomend you watch monster gaming on yt
You shouldn't really be breeding them
Why not
somewhat a day
Same , i had a team b4 and lost that acc , was level 89
Focus on getting mythics
my sub acc can join your team if you want
Or legendarys just for gold purposes(to farm gold)
How would someone get a mythical
im hatching exarch rn as my ancestor in my sub acc
Well its currently empty , but if you want to help , ur welcome to
still f2p
Events
I am 2
Asking for a friend

in my sub i have 6 mythics and 3 legend
Is 2 dollars f2p
what did you use it on?
Tbh the conjuring helps the most in getting a lot of mythics early game.
All can be used , are you active on it?
Yeahh , but he is too low level for it
quite active on a daily basis like atleast 2 hours a day
Gems
Alrr , i sent you a ss of the team
100
lowk the best way to get tickets for that is prepare 40 gems and get lucky in treasure cave
Then with how centralizing it kind of became to get a lot of mythics pretty easily I'd say the only chance they've got is if they get lucky in the card minigame or whatever it's called.
done
i know game but did you buy gems with it?
Yeahh , there will be more of those bc its holidays season
The rest are either attainable either from special breeding events, lineages which you'd need legendaries anyways, or if any of the special events just randomly drops an easy mythic to get. There's also that one random monster dungeon on the resource dungeons if they can beat that and if they're lucky enough to get a mythic
Yeahh , or in the bounty hunt
Im lwk thinking abt buying if next season is a good monster
damn
just a few hours
Yeahh
i wished they'd change the starter chest to confirmed legendary and may have a mythic 😩
Still not worth it
2 hours
for realsies
Ten one shots in a row 💀 cracked the code this time, have proof if anyone wants to doubt
whats your in game name?
maybe i have come across you
José
Is the new ancestor awakening easy to get
Chinchilla says so
Real name
can be hard
cuz he probably wont get charges from his sc
IGN I keep anonymous sorry
If its easy then he might be dexent
Decay 4X
he is above avg cuz he counters flor and canine and being in dark element undead and villains books
New a monster useless or maybe useful for wars?
Hello guys
useful i would say
What books?
Undead and another niece one
Yy prob useless 
Gaming
undead and villains
I already said the moves seemed mid and now the traits seem mid too😭

The moves are really good and the traits are solid as well
No they arent?
1:30
depends on what ur looking for
sad it doesnt have immune instand death aoe
Terrible
What is eldrich 💀
The moves are mediocre at best, the traits are literally just robur with some tweaks
Immune to : possession, corruption, nightmare, bleed, fear, decay and negative health buffs
Imma get him r5 purely for looks
Yeah u already got most ancestors r5 so u might aswell
Yeah only decent ones im missing are exarch & torog tbh
Oh well they are just okay
Yeah was gonna max out torog next but then i saw this new ancestor design
My fav ancestor design and now I’m not even going for him
He is definitely an exarch level ancestor maybe lower
is there reward link with foods, gems, or golds?
Thank youu, most people be glazing him
We need to see him in play he needs heavy rng to work
But I will DEFINITELY get his egg at the very least
And whatever rank he becomes until I get that egg
Maybe R2-3 just cause
Imma get him R5 for sure
Legendary
whats the new update gona be new era?
@mint palm check dms
Guys I have an alt acc where I have 1308 gems ( had 1702 some hours ago ) and I am making it better it has only like 6 mythics rn but would be better soon , dm me if anyone got a team for my alternate
How we get new monster and events without updating ml👀
New szn!?!?
Is a new update rn
He gets peirce…
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Everyone is done for in multiplayer
How many cells needed to rank 5 ancestor?
I have 1950 now for voreth
Anyone cave diving with me

anyone else got nebotus from flip on 2nd?
Hi nob
Hi
u mean u live? im up for it
No you choose a number
🙁
Then we use that many gems cave
range?
Yk my financial situation so be nice pls
no idea
Is it the weekends cave or the normal one?
1500
ur not puttinga any aside?
Up to you
390
im big gambler
or maybe not because i think im a big gambler so i try not to gamble
used all my gems when i tried to get gutdadee
The new ancestor is uhh not good from the experience I had testing him out vs that Florian team
Coin flip attack gooo!
It's better odds than a coinflip but still
Fr i couldn't beat the florian
Let's gooo 50k food in roulette
Yeah for a fight made to showcase him at his best it sure does showcase him at his worst 😂 😂😂
Yeah
The voreth you used is fat
I’m sure you have better runes
Florian has 3 X speed voreth has 3 X TEAM speed
Make sence
They demoted him to a team speed holder 😭😭😭
We got 3 days of cells ads
“Tank”
Days
Mid type ads
The best ads imo are the bh ads by far but they don't count tbh , the worst type is those tales tokens ads
now that we know the trait and virtue,is canine still better than voret?
Watch SP release a ITT and immune to death anc next month
Both are very nice
Canine is deff better
At r4+
I would say vore is probably low S , definitely worse than exarch because he relies so heavily on decay to get his awakening
If more mons release with decay then he will definitely surpass exarch and maybe even become a decent ancestor
No way slender diddy is worse than exarch
Currently he is hard walled by mega taunt and area dodge and extra turners and not being able to constantly apply decay
Coin flip attack go!
The food ones are worst
is butchekart the best monster in the black friday event
Yes
Everyone join my team if u can I’ve posted it in teams thread
No need for the others
aigh bet
Yeah he also has the lord in his section
Definitely useful in wars
Exarch has REZ BLOK , anticipation aoe cd activation resurrection by essence and even aoe mega time stop and partial per
The new ancestor can coinflip kill one monster
Which nebotus can anyways oneshot
He is highly susceptible to tortures , control , blind
Extra turning (hounen)
Mega taunt (torog + adaled)
He is very versatile 
Void will be meta for wars
Undead+ villians
We sure do clown on him but if he had the same ability as the fugitive in the previous bh then he would've been better than hounen
For Pvp*
yesssir W
Yeah that's true, never argued that
yall 8x is back
Yeah
Let's see how well he plays in dark
For pvp he is very situational you need to make a comp which gets benefitted from him
For dark he will be goated on defence chipping coins is very essential
You need decay mons for him to be good otherwise once again walled off by mega taunt
do i get charm, cornucrabia, or hexer
Charm
That's why pair him with florian or stuff
bro my phone died in the trip i wont get firesaur treat i only have 4 tiles left 🙁
You could've completed it twice
We get enough tokens to complete it 3 times
yeah i completed uhh the first one
can i use klark waine and firewarp together
and the firesaur i have 4 more
No one's stopping you
It’s so peak
but like do they work
bro what they removed the halloween chest alreayd>>
SP even implemented gambling in pvp
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There were always some insta kill monsters
i need 10 more
This guy 75% chance to one shot 
Yes it’s 5cd but still
I meant you can complete THE WHOLE THING 3 times for a total of 9 times
someone donate my firesaur treat cells 90/100
Slender man looks cool AND is good
i only do the free chest 🙁
Only viable for defence in wars
i mean im touching grass and studdy ykj
150 give or take 10 per day would literally complete the whole thing three times over
It is easy to do it once
firesaur treat bro it cost 75 treats per spin for like 6-7 times
8 hours then
He is a curser definitely not a tank
yeah but i was on a trrip not all times i have a battery and signal 😭
PLEASE DONATE CELLS!!!!
For the whole month?
Everything except a denier
i started like 1 and half a week ago
new account too
In wars he will be pain to kill
what do i get then,
He has so much shield health regeneration
Truly robur on crack
Gonna be the Highest HP stat for a while
Regen + sheild
Rage bait ancestor
Just run full 14s health and get 100% life shield over it. Not to mention he does torture spam
Ironically you need to run the tank with a tank
Just stall until ur one shot skill
It will be funny to see if someone does that lol
Good for offense at R5 with adaled ig
Voreth + adaled
I think that will be his meta but then again that is highly susceptible to extra turning
Maximum rage bait
Canine 🤓☝️
Also to cold blood
Yeah dark+ villians book gonna go crazy
Bro he’s built to counter canine
Not if others get possessed he is not
I have doubts over it

He might do well but still your team is megapossess
A betrayal is the worst thing possible because it comes from your friend not your enemy
-Sun Tzu
Let’s try citizen armor on adaled
If I had it I would run it
Or is it the sheild
u did the cave?
You need tank to be fastest then. I tried it but needed to make torog fastest in team
O
You are right citizen armor and free reigns shield
imma do it rn
It works barely
@restive prism
Since you always don't wanna make your tank fastest
Time to cave
But it gets bad if the tank is faster than canine 💀💀💀💀
The opposition canine
Full hp adaled + full hp Voreth
Immune to control still there after applying
No area eldrich tho
The canine can PER
@restive prism
So say bye bye to the itc
Yeah that's the issue lol
That is why if adaled is SOMEHOW faster than the opp canine then we doomed

@restive prism
yes
Les go DMs
Anyways he is too situational
Then again you just put like 2 speed or 1 speed so it is not faster than canine
Here we go again
Sometimes I face truly bad canines who has NO speed runes on it
Yo pro you got your role back?
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Yea i got it back faster thanks to Tim being good mod
Nice 👍🏻
Yea i am also happy
Also team have progressed a lot
So i am more happy
@cold ledge
Wassup hagi had 15k tickets 💀
🎉
im at 42
but i got 2 traps
45
@cold ledge
i need help now
im at 49
but i got the 40 gems trap
is it safe to do from 52 to 60 ?
or i just leave?
At that point if you already have a ton of stuff just go.
Don't make the mistake of thinking you're lucky
Sorry I was watching hagi pull Voreth
Wait
If u still doing it pull out NOW
Im at 52
But i don't have enaugh for the next skip
Isn't it safe from 50 to 60?
I saw some guy saying that
LEAVE
who should you choose in the lamp in the legendspass between pengunel, herrerio, and posy
W🔥 🔥
Btw how much is the skip after 90?
Got the new ancestor, what runes should i rock
Basically anything
who should you choose in the lamp in the legendspass between pengunel, herrerio, and posy

180
he is curser and tank
Applies tortures
Just 2 ancestor cells lamp
team speed prob
Yeah thought that too ngl
How many cells needed r0-r5 ancestor?
Damn it
who should you choose in the lamp in the legendspass between pengunel, herrerio, and posy
1900
No
Ty
Yeah 1900
who should you choose in the lamp in the legendspass between pengunel, herrerio, and posy
Sorry

can somebody please tell me
I think they are all bad
breh
what runes for voreth, Speed mutated with life¿
Maybe pengunel because he is a basic attacker
Got a bad one then
I tried again and got 400 tickets
For just 2 cells lamps again
At least i got nebotus to rank 4
Remember when you said I could join your team
Kaliper is the only one worth breeding right?
You can get it by doing ads
where
Monsterwood although it is not guaranteed
e
Better than asking here
idk people that are end game might be generous and have some
X8 is back🥹
You need to ask in a team
i just join into random teams
Guys , wjat monster do I breed for the maze coins?
Yo guys did sp update the cave?
Wdm?
Hows this new ancestor?
Kaliber
How much monster power do you have?
Is it worth it? Can't I het like 50 coins per/h for both breeding and hatching?
And all the legendary monsters will clog my tree
The monster itself is worth it
One of the best mythics
?
Just started playing on a new account. For the swamp knights and castle maze, 14 day event, when are the discount times
Havent seen anyone run him yet, i got him R5
How many tickets was that?
Took me exactly 10k
R5 and you don’t know if hes good yet😭
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i have 771
I have 300 gems, and I want to get a ancient how do I use my gems efficiently in treasure cave?
Not any efficient way
Its gambling
I like to click on the pot that had the worst rewards begore it
what do i get on the new black market event thingy
The new monster
the what?
I heard 200 gems would be good for starting, especially after bounty, should I still try? Or are ancients bad?
which onee
And make sure to just backout abd not spend the 5 gems to continue if you get trapped before room 10
The black market event
no i meant which monster do i get first
imagine uhh, i have a team, fishegami/mek hanor, charm/waveblaze, fishegami/firesaur treat
Took me 8K tickets
Which is better general ciratta or charm constrictor
probably charm due to magic weakness and then blood hater
Hello Guys could someone help me Defeating the boss teradactyl kindly
I see I see thanks
Already got every ancestor R5 besides exarch and torog
Do the legendary and mythical monster can only be on legendary an mythical habitat ?
can anyone tell me the actual breed for 4h time? im playing again since a long time and i notice thunderbird 4h breed no more exists
and vault but yes
Ok thks
I finally have my first legendary !
Hell yeah
How many time do u play the game ?
Daily, for like idk few years?
Ho Nice
when did the game have ancestors
since 2022
its rock archdruid in cave right?
👍
Ohh alright makes sense then
Torogs pretty good tho
Will max him next
with gems
what team are you in currently
😭😭
Is there any way to minimize traps?
Just a random one tbh
Also the new ancestor is doodoo
😂😂😂
like u get caught fast
like relaly fast did they upddate the ai for it?
You can join a good team if your profile is good 👍
Yeah but most are a little too serious for my taste
Ahh I see
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You tried the new ancestor? I find him really mediocre
crafting right now
I ran him with hounen & canine, so maybe its better to replace canine for like a res blocker but like i LOVE canine
hounen dame and voidspawn should work fine
Yeah but then its like, how do i go around the average adaled, hounen teams?
If i dont corrupt them right away
Time to let hounen go
Yeah but he is op
Also adaled then just destroys my team
Maybe with Fennevyr
He just sucks im sorry, like i love his design but like there is no reason for him in pvp
ive enough cells to r4 fishegami and still got 62k coins. my akuoriuth is r4 in 2k cells is it worth or should i just dump the rest for fishegami?
i think from akira tokens pretty sure shes one of his companions
her and onibull
No I got her today
Already got Vorith r4
maybe from chest
blew all my bh profits tho
Tbh I really don't want to have the same sentiment as you considering he can deal serious aoe damage if you manage to pull it off, but the problem is he's just that hard to pull off.
Literally the main way he does insane damage to the team gets blocked the moment something's immune to torture, and then there's the fact that you need to awaken him just to get pierce, which means it's going to be a challenge to use him against area dodge mons.
Oooo I got her from the conjuring
Rip profits
fr
Alr lucky ig
@thorny slate nah i think vorith is great for pvp
especially when paired with florain
Fun fact voreths damage after his torture removal is based of his atk stat
he also has 50% insta kill one of his moves
Rainbow rune set up?
@cold ledge huh?
Wht
wdym by rainbow?
Str:speed:Hp
That's what I'm thinking too because of the damage he can dish out. I like him, but idk if he's really 100% worth it.
He does a crazy amount of damage
Like insane
@thorny slate ive been using hounen, florain and vorith
with lv15 runes there only weakness really is if you get death countdown
but decay seems really good at least by face
I’m pretty sure he can one shot adaled if you give him a strength rune
yeah he can
Without the instakill
yeah
Strength rune yes?
If you want Im running two team speed and 1 speed
Ooo
-DMG doesnt matter when adaled is on the enemy team
- fat HP doesnt matter to hounen who just buffa everyone and destroys you
- insta kill move is pure rng, have used it 5 times and it killed one time
- awakening again goes out the window with any megatautn cause he only gets 1 stack out of the 4
- area dodge is meta and every move that is good from him is an AOE
Also why would you run him for his " insane damage " when hounen does the same with his ult
Is anyone else upset they removed the littile quests/tasks
The recommended goals
It's just like hatch this hatch this get more monsters where's the rest where'd they go give them back I was doing them
yo guys what do i get in black friday challenge
Somehow pulled new monster first try
also is the new ancestor the best one or do i do conjuring choice ( i dont have any ancestors)
Aint the best one by far in my opinion BUT i would wait a week
Hahaha yeah he looks amazing
anyone?
Idk what challenge you talling about sorry
the new cards thing
Again, mainly his damage occurs with his tortures, which can ramp up pretty easily with the right monsters. It's one of the few rare monsters where amplifying his damage doesn't just end with damage boosts but also tortures and with enough of those the thing can decimate an entire team in just one go, potentially dealing more damage in a single turn than say, Nebotus Evil Lord.
It's just that there's so many things hindering that possibility and the fact that Voidreth can only barely answer all those things himself, with the added consequences that if you don't have the ideal conditions he's just a sitting duck just makes him an awful choice for an attacker, and we already he's just as bad at tanking for the team because he doesn't have the trait nor virtues to do it.
No i get that, in war he will be good IF there is no hounen but for pvp this is just not needed.
His " good " torture moves are AOE, so the area dodge meta ancestors? Just shine, he can kill a megataunt like addaled with the 2x 50% insta kill hit but why would you run it when hounen will just destroy the entire team right after?
Like, the complaint for the insta kill is negligible if you can actually pull him off because if you do he can and might possibly just decimate the entire team no problem. It's just that his entire thing revolves on too much set up.
I just explained why that skill doesnt matter in pvp because hounen would have killed the megataunt either way
Canine - hounen - new ancestor
Im throwing away dame who NER'S everyone, has synergy with hounen + res blocks.
For a new ancestor who is weak against area dodge and his best stuff is that he can instakill the megataunt which isnt even guarantueed
Im just trynna prove my point btw, if you love the ancestor thats amazing
Trap
Ok
and also shields, healing, decay and torture explosion not to mention the fact that his entire movepool makes him flexible to fit 3 different roles (couldve been 4 if he had taunt or mt)
Tbh I get in on your situation. Voreth ain't really working with a team like that. Not saying it's a bad team either, though it might not enable a lot of what Voreth can do.
Dame works better there because what she can accomplish as a support is very rare, plus like you said she does have res block.
guys is the 50% discount in maze rn the best discount this entire maze?
i can see a team where voreth is paired torog and canine to make a really good team
or maybe florian and bogthorog?
Some say they run him with huonen + florian
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Is the new ancestor worth going for or should I max out my current ones
Healing isnt meta, the tortures is a fun concept but again. His good moves get negated by area dodge, shields dont matter when you have an maxed out hounen
What sort of team would he work in?
If you don't got the mons to enable em just don't.
I have Florian hounen dame. All rank 3
Thats my biggest thing, it feels like he just doesnt have a place in pvp
He's going to work extremely well with torture spam teams with a trait disabler like florian I'd say. Like, just let him plop his tortures and stuff.
I can try the team out tomorrow, just tell me the full team YOU would run. Im really interested
“Weak against area dodge” yet he awakens extremely easily and gets pierce and one of the best single target skills in the game
heres the thing hounen doesnt have area dodge to hes still suceptible to those attacks and if im correct voreth should be faster if given the right runes and assuming both of them are maxed with his sc decay and a quick move that gives enough decay it wont matter if hounen uses his skills since he'll be forced to use torture cleanse instead of et boosting
thus giving voreth a chance to aweken and reapply more decay which will screw over hounen
I don’t like this “his moves get neglected by dodge area” argument he literally have one of the best single target skills in the entire game bro
He doesnt awake easily when he cant get his decay up on the area dodge monsters? His decay moves are AOE
He has access to pierce too lol
They are AOE but even if there’s a dodge area monster he awakens after his second turn
False when its all rng and his " insta kill 2x 50/50 " is not worth it when hounen can just one shot the tank himself
You dont have like multiole turns just to get him going
even then the only mons youll see with area dodge on defense is usually just florian
75% chance of killing an enemy PLUS high damage PLUS decay is insane bro wym
@neat stratus hello my friend
Hounen + a megataunt, tada he only gets 1 decay stack
What’s good bro
How ur day going?
actually aoe tortures stack on mts
It's kinda a hard thing to think of because you really need someone like Florian for the traits, that means you're either sacrificing res block + ner with dame or additional damage boosts with huonen.
I end work rn and i going back to home i will chill in 2 hours
About to head to work unfortunately😔gonna film a review right when I get back home
Lucky duck
How ur team going?
Lucky i worked for 12 hours
We’re chillin bro we’re in a war with wicked ones rn
Oh lawd that sounds cursed
Easy win for u guys
Would you recommend this new ancestor
you working two shifts!?
Yea its 12 h day by day
No
Not super easy but definitely a win we just warred against them recently it seems they’re generally going pretty inactive they used to be quite good
For runes
12hours daily as a electrician is normal
Not before you get Hounen, dame and canine
Kid named 5 turn cd
All three r5 already
You make bank at least
Then get him
has someone got any tips for the maze challenge? I wanna try and get as many purple coins as I can
Still an absurd skill he’s gonna dominate his restricts in wars
Yea rn 19k usd
The fact that he has access to citizens armour is crazy too
You only get 1 decay stack
Already got him r5 👍
As a 23 year old dude
Wars ,sure, no one argued that , but for anything else , NO
Nope for sure wait a qeek and see how the meta evolves
It’s still good in multiplayer lol
Already r5 😂
But tbh if it's with everyancestor available, voreth can probably work with a ton of em because ideally you just need to enable the team to:
A.) spread tortures
B.) be able to use torture explosions. In addition he does give some good supportive skills in shielding so in the chance that you fail once you can always try to go on the defensive and hope your team survives.
Yeah see? You are throwing one of the OP monsters away for HIMA
There are flat out better options than him for all other game modes
L [ i did the same]
The fact that canine is so widespread in PvP will make him good also by default
im pretty sure 12 hours is two shifts theres first shift 9-5 second shift 5-9 or 10, and graveyard shift which is like 11- 6 or smth like that might not be fully accurate but 12 hours sounds like around two shifts
Ye but team ner was required
Though funnily enough if huonen does have a torturing skill he can enable what Voreth's doing.
Nvm guys I did it
Nah electrician work sometimes require ride for 2 hours to get to construction site
Okay? Dawg what’s your point he’s like the 4th best monster in the game what are you arguing here? He’s usually worth running on one of your teams wether it be attack or defence
ah yes because theres way better options in undead and villain wars
Required for what?
I hate how new monsters come out and people immediately discredit them right away
Still i am fine with it
No balls 2 team speed 1 strength
ALL OTHER means excluding wars my guy
Getting paid make me happy and let me spend on ML
Huh he actually does, wouldn't you look at that.
I’m disagreeing with them but they literally said besides war bro
he mentioned multiplayer not wars
Not 4th best you really think he is better than nebotus?
You really think Nebotus is good rn?
You saying he is strong or insane is just a lie, we are argueing this. If you cant handle arguements then dont force your opinion onto others
I said even earlier countless times he is not better in any game modes other than wars
Dude canine is a literal counter to the dame + nebotus comp
Nebotus fell off mad hard
Nebo looks kinda average rn xddd
With free reigns shield yes nebotus is good
When did I force an opinion onto anyone?🤣holy sensitive
Not top 4 good😂canine still hard counters him
oh ok
Even with free reigns tho he has damage reduction from canine, and dame can’t remove it because she gets possessed before nebo goes
Yeah
Eh I guess that
You came in, said my arguements were wrong and you just followed it up by bad points?
Total damage reduction🤦🏼♂️
To be honest everyone know that each time they giving us new ancestral we getting something broken
Ye just remembered
This new ancestor aint a top 5 ancestor sorry, he aint
But still he is a counter to canine but not a good one tbh
Because I disagree lol fym force an opinion😂you said silly stuff and I decided to input my opinion it’s a public chat if you don’t wanna hear other peoples opinions then don’t voice your own
what other ancestors beat him out besides hounen dame and maybe canine
+1
Literally😂those are the only 3 torog is comparable but not at his level
He can at most be called an anti meta unit Nothin else.
I did it
No i didnt say silly stuff, you aaid his insta kill abiloty is the most op abiloty in thr game. All RNG, his good moves are AOE
Once canine goes away he will also go away
I never once said that please read before you speak
R5 Voreth is 789 gems
I said it’s one of the best single target skills in the game🤦🏼♂️which it is
Wait who have insta kill ability
also have you even tested his decay stacking against an mt or are you just saying it not even having tested it out
If he had pierce as a trait then I would call him a top 3 mon
Hounen + dame + canine + florian + adaled and honestly exarch might be better too purely because of the res block / anticipation + activate cd & evasion gain
Even against the test team in that Florian match you can see how good he is when it isn't a canine centric comp
I have, played 54 stamina' sowrth of battles with him in pvp
Not everyone runs canine on defense
Exarch better at something????? No wayyyy
Florian got a mad nerf no shot he’s better and Adaled isn’t even as good as torog anymore lol
Some use him on offence too
Exarch hard pass too he’s great but not better than Voreth
💀 @neat stratus this wuman said Exarch is good in something xddd
When he ain't even move and he dead already
" one of the best single target abilities in the game " 😭😭😭
The two tortures + decay + negative effect protection is honestly just a crazy move
I mean im saying he MIGHT cause currently the new ancestor has so many weakpoints
florian and adaled are not better than my bro voreth
Yeah that’s exactly what I said and it’s true
You said he is easy to awaken
Each time i see Exarch in multiplayer i know i will win against that person
You lied and told me I said it was the most OP skill in the game when I said it’s one of the best single target skills in the game completely different lol
Adaled is literally the most used megataunt + florian is still amazing, if you take IN PVP the new ancestor over florian you are trolling
When said he has access to only aoe decay @neat stratus
Yeah he literally is bro
Tbh looking at Exarch the only thing going for him is the fact that he has res block and anticipation. Other than that he's kinda like a basic denier that does nothing else but that, and ig do something with the ult if you're REALLY trying to get something out of him.
You said he has pierce
Articulate how Adaled is better than torog for me
Yes they are what? 😭😭😭
Debates over monster metas strengthens the community ♥️
He does🤦🏼♂️
Only on awakening
Exarch can be good in multiplayer tho just holding team speeds with gahfulz and res block
Torture resistance - done
But he needs to apply decay to awaken so that point is useless
Yeah… still access to pierce
He aint getting 4 decay stacks vs a meta pvp team 😭
florians trait disable moves got nerfed bad i mean torog straight counters him now with trait disable being effected by umbrella traits
And also positive effect stealing because in all honesty I miss having a usable monster that can just, per.
But the main point was that he is hard to awaken in the current meta and he cannot EVEN REMOVE EVASION
He’s faster
Doesn’t counteract torog’s better stats, virtues and infinitely better skills torog has one of the best AOE skills in the game adaled’s awakening conditions and trait can’t carry him above torog
Which is rampant in all hounen comps , he cannot bypass megataunt ,
Than hounen atleast
Imagine have denier in team that can't even block enemy team because he deac already
He cannot bypass megataunt and area dodge
It’s literally not tho y’all saying he’s hard to awaken when he’s really not that hard to awaken
And the new ancestor does literally nothing against area dodge, so all he can do vs those teams is trynna one shot the megataunt which like. I aint gonna use a monster where his only purpose is to one shot a megataunt who would have died to hounen the turn after either way
Torture resistance with all the relics and effects? It quite literally does
For the millionth time he has an insane single target skills torog he DOES do something against dodge area😂
Torture explosion
Let's just wait a week or two to see where he lands
I can’t wait
There’s a reason people use torog over Adaled nowadays bro😂
He’s so cool
Even I got him to r2 just because his design is cool
Imagine being unable to even do anything if he's the fastest monster and the enemy team has mega taunt.
yo guys which is best monster in flip challenge
your also missing he has insane support skills as well as a very good insta death skill if anything ppl might start having to use diabolus just to counter it
You arent adding something? If they run 2 area dodge and the new ancestor all he does is " lemme take a chance to kill 1 out of 3 which might still do nothing and waste an entire turn "
I got him bc im addicted to gambling
Name two area dodge monsters that make a good comp in multiplayer rn
Together
I ain't gone lie but every time i see Exarch with XIVs runes
He is dead after round 1
Ehh the instant death skill is great but nobody will run diabolus to counter it I think
Aint the skills you running tho, what i have ran were the 2x decay skills, ehich are both AOE. The single target one shot 50/50 skill and the healing skill. Honestly might test tomorrow without the healing skill because it never does enough. Its cool, but like he is missing sonething
I've seen him nearly die to toxins tbh, he's just not built for longevity
Yeah he died too early in that Florian fight tbh
I agree with murky bc his name is purple
He didn't do Nothin and just died
was the healing skill you used called clarity or a different skill
Yea well basicly just one spell and he is dead
Especially if you have a good composition
Torog + Dame + Canine do tasks well
My goat🙏🏻😂
Doesnt need to be even 2, you can run " exarch + adaled + florian " he wont get his AOE off because of adaled. Canine will only corrupt the exarch so the florian will just apply possession to your entire team and you are done.
You can say " owh but he is immune to posession " yeah but your other members arent. He only gets 1 decay stack because of the megataunt AND YES thats how it works. So then ehat? Ya gonna take a 75% chance at killing adaled?
Holy hell ur gonna get banned with that pfp 
Clarity is the one i ran
Literally. The only good way to keep him alive is if he actually could deny the entire team. Literally just tanks breathing on him could probably three hit or even two hit ko him
Did you just forget that he has an armour slot so he’s immune or control?😂
Sorry but here canine corrupts both exarch and adaled
That comp slams Florian, exarch and Adaled with a citizens armour bro
You don’t know what you’re talking about
I mean yeah if you include citizens armor sure
He is either way, im talking about the other monsters? Like your other team still gets possesed
Though funnily enough he has been able to live a couple of times when I used him. But like, he just sits there if he's the only thing left.
Bro… citizens armour no
My torog grab Exarch with full HP + mutated runes
1 strength on voreth one shots megataunt 🙏🏻
And he just die pasivly
Iknow he does, but florian then just posesses everyone besides the new ancestor
Anyways he needs NER to function and the entire argument falls apart without canine in the mix @neat stratus
the humble florian and citizens armour:
Doesn’t need NER tho I’ve won every battle with him this morning in Olympus without NER😂
You can say that but how about you test him out yourself? You will realise he aint adding anything to the team. I tried him for like 7/8 battles and was like " why would i ever run him over a dame who res blocks "
Oh wait I lost one actually cause I forgot to equip runes on him
Gng how is he a tank
He’s not sp was just trolling
Literally gave him antlerian's amulet because it was the only good thing I had, and it's been the only reason he was still alive a lot of the time.
What runes did you equip?
Without it he'd just die because someone burned him
3 team speed or 1 strength and 2 team speed I prefer the strength route with him
Robur never caused this much debate…
@neat stratus btw would u like see how my team progress from last time i share this info?
Cause he’s the goat
Tyy
That is because the comps haven't adjusted for him yet because before canine released to a day or so after , there were 0 citizens armor or free reigns shield but now that Is all I see
For sure bro shoot me a DM I’m about to start work
Give robur an instakill boom that’s Voreth
That is because voidspawn looks cool unlike robur
And actually has a somewhat redeeming kit
I mean besides being the goat he was never kinda meant to soar high without mega taunt.
He is good no one argued that
Look at #ml-general-discussion
But what we are asking that is he great or not
How will comps adjust to him? I don’t see that as a valid point because he doesn’t really have a counter rn his kit isn’t something that really takes a counter like the best you can do to be annoying for him is use MT and even then it’s not much of an issue
People will figure it out if it were that easy it would already have appeared
And canine counters NEL
He’s just an all around great monster not OP, doesn’t need a counter or really even have one rn
That is what people were saying he is good not great or worth glazing
Voreth has promise as a tank but surprisingly he can do other stuff if you'd allow him, and ig that's why people are debating over the dude
He doesn’t really have a counter rn there’s nothing that’s particularly good against him again other than just having MT
He’ll crumble to dust in a month
yeah honestly even tho he isnt meta defining like hounen or canine hes stilll a worthwhile pick
Rn we ars getting 300 coins on war but we don't get into full squad with it
Coin flip attack go!
What are you running him with?
Not meta defining but he’s extremely powerful I think the people downplaying him probably haven’t tested him at a high level yet in high level multiplayer
Asking the real questions here