ideas-feedback-discussion

[grand haven]

I'm all down for king daeron being tyrannical

[rain spire]

he did tried to kill haku and that one legendary

and disliked charmless before his corrupted form

[uncut crater]

isa typing

[clear stump]

Haku and Jabuline. Probably one of the first "fusions". Jakugan was amazing to me

[uncut crater]

immune to magnetized is op trait ngl

[clear stump]

In fairness she was released in like 2017 of not earlier

[uncut crater]

i was like 5 back then

[clear stump]

Both Haku and Jabuline were sentenced to death and so...

[uncut crater]

why?

[clear stump]

🧐

[uncut crater]

you've verified me before

[clear stump]

Then perhaps remember your own age?

[uncut crater]

but 2017 was like 200 years ago or sumin, im bad at geography

[clear stump]

It was five years ago.

[uncut crater]

ancient

[clear stump]

Five plus five equals...

[signal lance]

[uncut crater]

5+5= age 5 years ago

[clear stump]

Mhmmmm.

Suuuuure.

[uncut crater]

they fell for it

hehe

[karmic fable]

Can people not talk about leaks in general feedback

While we're trying to do our "job" please don't mention anything that gets leaked by me or anyone else in the official server

Leaks are not official

[rain spire]

@placid anchor ideas involving bringing back items are banned/over suggested

[placid anchor]

sorry i didnt know

[rain spire]

remove it.

[uncut crater]

sentri mini mod

[rain spire]

heeheehawhaw

[uncut crater]

evil laugh pog

hehehehehe

[uncut crater]

adding new tortures would be nice, and makes sense

[vestal lotus]

But seven sins will kick us

Beast is enough bro

[fossil relic]

Hail the seven sins

[uncut crater]

ew

forgot that p2w garbo existed

[gilded eagle]

👍

[clear stump]

Sentri

Stop minimodding.

[rain spire]

b-but

[clear stump]

No buts

[rain spire]

[rancid cargo]

It’s still giving us wheel rewards Sipun

[rain spire]

hes saying that we can skip the wheel by using the skip button to automatically get our rewards without needing to wait longer while spinning

[rancid cargo]

Yes but it still gives us rewards

[clear stump]

Yes we know that vlad

Hesbhappy we can skip the 5 second spinning animation

[rancid cargo]

Still counts but it saves my time lol

[radiant fox]

I seriously wonder if SP loves trolling us with the rewards for Timed Challenges, when so many have pointed out that they need to be improved over the years 😂😂

[grand haven]

Can't wait for the team challenge to give rewards as valuable as a food and gold dungeon

[slim sedge]

wdym that dungeon is op

[hardy holly]

best dungeon

[grand haven]

@eternal tanglerespond to ideas here

[hardy holly]

@honest parcel for shield fug mons with shield break work

[uncut crater]

Like that aint op

[rain spire]

the latest feedback is just plain stupid

[slim sedge]

self upvote so I legally have to downvote

[rain spire]

@agile falcon bruh

[agile falcon]

What

[agile falcon]

Yes?

[rain spire]

you barely put effort to call it a feedback

[agile falcon]

Think about it, my feedback covers all basics about making it better for players

[weary plank]

watch Harmless get 50 upvotes and 0 downvotes

[signal lance]

No it doesn't

It feels like a troll feedback honestly

[agile falcon]

That's because you didn't think about it

[rain spire]

waste of braincells actually

[foggy axle]

This feedback discussion is plain stupid

[agile falcon]

No

[rain spire]

well lets see tomorrow because its currently 8 downvotes 0 upvotes and its so bad that even he self downvote his own “feedback”

[weary plank]

bots must be asleep

[rain spire]

#general-feedback shouldnt exist in the first place

[uncut crater]

i mean the game is boring and repetitive

the new pvp and BH events could have been cool, but they also suck(ed)

[uncut crater]

tbh, controlling the monsters in BH isn't needed, just making ai slightly smarter is tho

[gilded eagle]

Oversuggested

🙄

[rain spire]

wow look at that a “remove ragnorok” feedback

[lean kelp]

Justified

[karmic fable]

these feedbacks

🗿

[rain spire]

exactly

[uncut crater]

1 ambrosia is sad, now if there was a chance to get anywhere from 1-100 ambrosia

[versed walrus]

That is what it should be

[versed walrus]

@noble rivet It is called #monster-discussion

[noble rivet]

never noticed

[versed walrus]

Look before you suggest

[weary plank]

@spice wigeon you mean cardflip events?

[rain spire]

and they occur at a certain month

[weary plank]

^

We had one in Easter

[rain spire]

i can imagine that it occurs monthly and a new monster there

cough

[spice wigeon]

yes

[weary plank]

they weren't removed

One will probably happen pretty soon

[spice wigeon]

cardflip events have always been the best for me xD

[versed walrus]

Sounds like a nub thing to say

[karmic fable]

@spice wigeon you are meant to write .suggestion not .suggest btw

[spice wigeon]

oh

[spice wigeon]

but thats funny

[hollow nova]

.suggest works tho

bot must be down

[hardy holly]

@odd canyon itll be harder to steal the tile then

[karmic fable]

oh i thought it was only .suggestion mb

[rain spire]

@karmic fable bruh

[karmic fable]

what

I only asked for a meme channel

[rain spire]

just to go to another server to post memes or go to Monster Legends Community server

[karmic fable]

was it too much to ask for?

but this is a ML meme

[rain spire]

then go to monster legends community server

theres a meme channel

[karmic fable]

ooooo alr

[karmic fable]

where's the server

[gilded eagle]

Chinchilla

[thin totem]

😳

[signal lance]

@spice wagon what gifts can we send?

[spice wagon]

I'd say up to 10k, like 5k food, and maybe up to an epic monster egg, lv 1 habitats that aren't legendary or mythic, and decoration stuff
This is all on some sort of cooldown like 2 gifts a day

I say up to an epic egg just so that people aren't sending their alt accounts legendaries

[signal lance]

Its kinda useless honestly

[spice wagon]

It is what it is

What kind of gifts would you recommend sending

[signal lance]

Increase the food and gold at the very least

10k gold and 5k food isn't gonna take someone far

[spice wagon]

1m gold and 100k food?

[signal lance]

500-700k gold imo

[spice wagon]

Aside from that do you agree with the eggs and habitats?

[signal lance]

Yeah I can agree with the rest

[spice wagon]

Perfect, thanks

[versed walrus]

I would say up to 5-10 gems

[frank osprey]

My idea is a new generation of cosmics but improved and its origin is that the cosmic portal reopens and improves both original cosmic monsters as well as normal cosmics

[signal lance]

#monster-ideas

[frank osprey]

Ok thanks I was wrong

[uncut crater]

everything but requesting corrupted cells seems fine to me

since atum is p2w, pango is just a f2p alternative now

and then everyone would have a MT trait monster

[signal lance]

We technically have an easy way to get a MT trait monster

It's Santerion and you cab get his cells easily

[versed walrus]

Yea

[uncut crater]

true

mt's are easy to get

yu can get three from the war shop(1 trait)

[karmic fable]

Technically we still have algata whos meta so

Once they die probs would be the best time to do corrupted and below cell requests

[rain spire]

wow bh feedbacks are stupid

just dont fight the fugitive and collect bags idc about ragnorok

[rancid cargo]

Which made my appearance, yeah

I'm giving up ranting Ragnarok as I move on to something else in this BH

Jeez they never changed Ragnarok as it ignores the community

[grand haven]

I don't find Ragnarok that annoying

[lean kelp]

Gree bags

[grand haven]

mcgree

[rancid cargo]

How about, Mc. Reeeeee!

But yeah, Green Bags suck

[rain spire]

“whos your favorite overwatch hero?”

“McGree

[rancid cargo]

lol

I laughed a bit tho

[clear stump]

How about McOfftopic

[rancid cargo]

Oh hey Isa

[modest dove]

@hasty current The idea is good, but people might exploit it. Like, deleting the ofa call to justify a ban bc the lead might be biased. Can be possible. Still, I see the pros of the idea.

[rain spire]

@still quail respond to ideas here

[fossil relic]

Aaaa has no role thts intersting

[still quail]

Yea?

Xd

very rare no role real!%!%!%!%!

[fossil relic]

Yep a very rare white role access in here

[still quail]

lol

[rain spire]

#players-chat: bruh am i a joke to yall

[fossil relic]

Lol

[grand haven]

@still quail where is the in-game report exactly?

[cobalt horizon]

Via support

[hardy holly]

tbh i thnk removing the mega freeze is pretty good enough

[uncut crater]

@dusk saddle did you really self up vote

[dusk saddle]

Is there any problem ?

Since it looks like SP doesn't even care about those

Feedbacks anymore

[signal lance]

I just find it strange that people are still complaining about the fight scene

[lean kelp]

@dusk saddle the single curse also activates cooldowns on the monster

[rain spire]

also ragnarok feedback

[dusk saddle]

👀👀

[rain spire]

pretty stupid cliche these days

[dusk saddle]

I didn't know about CDA

[lean kelp]

Stupid and spammed but its justified

[rain spire]

@old ravine why in the ideas channel 🗿

[old ravine]

idk

[gilded eagle]

Bruh reporting a bug in ideas channel

🤦‍♂️

[uncut crater]

the feedback by daybreak is so perfect

a chest opening just the perfect time when your asleep

ive been thinking of that for ages

[thin totem]

fr

[honest parcel]

That was exactly my thinking. It’s perfect for people who are sleeping and perfect for people who go to work and won’t be available for a few hours. Six hours is too short and one day is too long. A nice middle ground would be perfect.

[uncut crater]

[hardy holly]

agree w/ big char ( thanos ) , all events are boring bh was good but rag is a Rapidly Annoying Guy

[slim sedge]

brb just gonna check the final design vs the contest winning design

final design

vs contest winner

[gilded eagle]

[thorny cobalt]

Somewhat more hideous

[short frost]

Is that zyla and nisael combined?

[rain spire]

yes

[short frost]

Damn

[maiden meteor]

very bad nyla the revelant

[short frost]

More like nyla not relevant

[clear stump]

@lean prism your feedback would be good if the events cycle was 5 weeks

Which it isnt

[lean prism]

whats the event cycle

[clear stump]

Week 1 race
Week 2 maze
Week 3 tales til Tuesday then equipment for remainder of the week
Week 4 bounty

[lean prism]

can't they just add a week 5

into the cycle?

[clear stump]

Don't think that'd help much

[rain spire]

i prefer it stay that way

[clear stump]

What do you propose be in week 5. An impossible card flip or what lol

[lean prism]

idk

[short frost]

Lol

[rain spire]

and i oop

[clear stump]

Hahaha

[rain spire]

heeheehawhaw

[uncut crater]

where or why?

[rain spire]

are you referring to my message above?

[uncut crater]

no

dark looter_007's message

his first line

[rain spire]

oh

[uncut crater]

your perfect

[weary plank]

so do you guys even check your fans criticism or something
yes

[uncut crater]

[weary plank]

quite clear SP does, at least every once in a while

[rain spire]

they do but couldnt understand our words

sp wasnt taught english

[signal lance]

I feel like Dark Lord is just Salty that they took out Dr Victor's event

Like the dude is even complaining about it in Bug reports

[rain spire]

srsly who does that

“im going to sent my complain about Dr Viktor’s event removal and post it on the bugs channel”

[hardy holly]

@karmic fable wdym hayman isnt hatd he is the one and only lord hayman tbf

[weary plank]

yeah Hayman is loved

and always has been loved

[foggy axle]

@wheat valley there’s a difference between looking at feedback/criticism and acting on feedback/criticism, SP can look at feedback but they dont have to give the community everything they want

[hollow nova]

Moonhaze is the best community design monster skill wise fr

[signal lance]

What about Wyrmlad?

[hollow nova]

wait he was one

[signal lance]

Well yeah

If I remember correctly the community-made his traits, relics, and skills but I think SP was the one that made his design but I'm not to sure on that one

[slim sedge]

wasn't he sort of like Sir Valgar

we got his design, now he just needed skills and other stats

[signal lance]

I believe so

[karmic fable]

the reason hayman is loved and talked about so much is because of how awful and unusable he was (and arguably still is).

[hardy holly]

duh , but stll beloved

[karmic fable]

i highly doubt that'll be the case with nyla

[slim sedge]

hayman jokes are unfunny and cringe

[karmic fable]

not just because of how awful she is, but also because of the circumstances surrounding her release (her status as a community contest winner, being released during birthday month, being yet another terrible free monster, etc)

[clear stump]

Hayman was the worst out of all legendaries. Being the worst of a Mythic era just condemns you to being forgotten as a whole, not even memed

[hardy holly]

yeah i feel rly bad for the winner , the design changes from the original too release are alot and its sad to see how bad it is

[karmic fable]

i've seen like 3 killarok memes total since his release, and they were all on his competitive wiki page

bad mythic monsters don't even get the luxury of getting memes about them

[hardy holly]

yeah mythics if its bad nope forgotten

[slim sedge]

the winner did say something about it

[karmic fable]

honestly i really like her new design, maybe more than the original design

[karmic fable]

what'd they say

[hardy holly]

the face though

[karmic fable]

nisael was literally a undead ghoul, why would nyla change that

to me it makes her look cooler

[hardy holly]

both designs are good , imo the changes were alot

[karmic fable]

i definitely see that, it's pretty different compared to the original design from smitho

[rancid cargo]

For me I like Hayman

[pseudo lodge]

Poor guy

[modest dove]

best* Never insult Hayman >:(.

[short frost]

Hayman SSS tier

[hardy holly]

too op people choose not to use him

[honest parcel]

He had the forsaken Hayman’s trait

[fossil relic]

Hayman still a legend tht never dies

[slim sedge]

[slim sedge]

he already has died

[rain spire]

only thing hes a legend of is being a old and dead and unfunny meme that very few still uses

[fossil relic]

Then rip corn

Hayman

[weary plank]

Glad that you got that Dr. Viktor's Patrons back, and do not make the same mistake about delaying it next time.
to be fair, Viktor got kidnapped last time

[hardy holly]

yes poor guy , people only care abt his patreon not mans feelings

[rain spire]

that being removed last season makes sense why we havent gotten it

[hardy holly]

its here rn so ...

[uncut crater]

Who saved him?

I need loreee

[radiant fox]

Uggh... So after a plethora of uber Pierce monsters, now we get anticipation at every nook and corner, and a ftp pass monster which is... underwhelming at best, and a paid monster who has an impressive array of tortures, but that's about it?

[radiant fox]

We all did, with all our complaining 😂

Nishant realised it's bad for his image and allowed Viktor to open up his shop this time

[uncut crater]

Fr

[radiant fox]

Ur guess is as good as mine bud

[uncut crater]

[radiant fox]

I don't have insight into SP's decisions anymore than u do

😅

No, but on a diff note, Nyla and Master Pet broke my heart fr

[clear stump]

Epigursus is a disappointment all around to me

[rain spire]

at least he get to be mythic

[clear stump]

it was bound to happen

just like... 18 months later

[radiant fox]

Well, I agree Epigursus isn't all that epic, but hey, he's got Hellfire !!!

That's about the only selling point in my eyes 😅

[slim sedge]

the only selling point is that it's the glp

[wooden thunder]

LOL Smitho really just said change it like they would lol

they won't care to change her even then it be a flop

[slim sedge]

[wooden thunder]

just saying

not like SP would change her movset

[uncut crater]

Nyla traits arent the worst, but immune to stun wouldnt help it

[safe robin]

Guys, I sent them another message to see if they change the attacks. Usually socialpoint responds to me in a maximum of 3 hours. It's been more than 4 hours now and they haven't responded. I sent proof that you all hated the attacks. They're pretending they don't see our opinion. Maybe this time I can convince them. 😰 So far This has been my biggest creative disappointment. I hope to be heard SP 🙏🙏🙏

[gilded eagle]

Why u of all people

[slim sedge]

I don't want to say that you're on mad copium if you think that SP will listen but

kinda just wishful thinking

[somber lagoon]

Always bothers me why Sp doesn’t listen. I mean I just don’t get it. We constantly hope that they will change and actually listen but no sign of that is shown. And when it is, they just go back to how they were. Not sure if they really are making that effort or just don’t care. Idk, it’s weird. Sp is just a weird company, hard to figure them out.

But I honestly do think they will change the move set. There is just too much backlash for them not to

@hearty oxide my bad lol. Saw you were trying to type something on feedback

[weary plank]

we've already had very good monsters there like Lucky clint and Monk Flamorg
Lucky Clint kinda overrated ngl

I wouldn't call him "very good"

[gilded eagle]

Why do people bother having hope trying to have any type of communication with sp

[versed walrus]

Lucky Clint is a solid attacker

[thin totem]

he is

it's so annoying in wars when i want to use a extra turner

[uncut crater]

fr

[karmic fable]

Sp doesn't care about ml, only ab dragon trashcity

[hollow nova]

no memes please

[karmic fable]

🤓

[slim sedge]

mc gonna mute them

[clear stump]

Worse, next time I see a meme I will Forced Roleless for a week

[hollow nova]

zamn

[slim sedge]

[rancid cargo]

Bro these feedbacks about being P2W are everywhere

You have Ahma and Shadowyna

[radiant fox]

Did u even read the feedback? Dude's complaining about p2w monsters being trash, and he has a good reason to

[grand haven]

SP failing to pander to any side of the player base moment

[vestal lotus]

Volcanex soon too

[rancid cargo]

Oh, I forgor 💀

[radiant fox]

I don't complain about f2p monsters being what they are because they don't cost anything IRL, but if u're charging money for stuff, u better be sure that it's worth the price tag u're attaching

[rancid cargo]

I was referring about Nyla

[radiant fox]

🤔

[vestal lotus]

Nyla beat seaquick in the worst mythic

[radiant fox]

Uhhh... Nobody said anything about p2w

[rancid cargo]

Wait

But what about Nyla feedbacks

[radiant fox]

Sure, I agree with them totally

But where is P2W coming into the picture?

[rancid cargo]

Serpentex and King Atum

[radiant fox]

First, Atum is definitely not P2W, he's p2p

[vestal lotus]

Ye

[radiant fox]

Second, what does either of them have to do with Nyla being crap?

It's not like we don't get good, or "meta" as u like to call them, ftp monsters every once in a while too

[still quail]

Speaking off pictures where is more f2p frames💀

[radiant fox]

SP designed Nyla as she is purposefully, or they're simply out of ideas atm, idk for sure

But that doesn't relate to any other monster in the game

If I had to hazard a guess, from the Mythic Igursus and the Mermaid, ideas are running a bit low atm

[rancid cargo]

John, now the next thing I say is about them complaining about Nyla's moves

[somber lagoon]

I fell like the $50 pass monster should always be meta. There is no reason for it not to be as the price tag is $30. In fact if the monster is good more people are likely to buy the $50 monster, so they only harm themselves if they continue releasing average or trash $50 pass monsters.

[grand haven]

It shouldn't always be meta, because then it would just agitate f2ps even more, but it should be at least good and usable for it to worth your money

[hardy holly]

my reaction latest feedback : i see it as theyre trying to mke people not buy the ELP so thy can save mney

[rain spire]

@civic spade what the hell is that idea

[civic spade]

A good one

[rain spire]

is this a joke

[grand haven]

mm

joke ideas

[civic spade]

No

I like my chances

[grand haven]

whatever you say buddy

Isabelle's gonna gain another 15% stat boost for this one

:trol:

[hardy holly]

1. no
2. wht if you get banned
3. its just bad

[rain spire]

and sjenz lost almost all braincells

[civic spade]

Nah its probably gonna be everyones best monster

[rain spire]

dont waste them

[civic spade]

And it has 50x more mp then other monsters

If it would happen I would make 7 more accounts

[grand haven]

ok buddy

[rain spire]

ok this is defiantly trolling

[grand haven]

here's a good idea

ban 100% of the playerbase

then delete all the data

[hardy holly]

no bad

[grand haven]

and force them to restart with nothing

[civic spade]

Yeah

I love that

[grand haven]

very good idea, just erase everyone's progress and force them all to restart

[civic spade]

Nobody can be mad with that

[hardy holly]

yes ur acc gets dragged in

[grand haven]

yea they'll just all leave the game and never return

genius idea I have

[civic spade]

Only the creators of the game can play

[hardy holly]

yes like how im not mad abt your idea

[civic spade]

Ill make some more ideas just wait

It takes alot of brain power for these ideas i have

[hardy holly]

( msg you deleted ) you in ths server in a few is mre like it

[grand haven]

ok whatever you say buddy

keep on typing those ideas

soon enough you'll be able to get muted by isabelle themselves

[hardy holly]

yes because you mght lose some when you are trying to mke some

[rain spire]

which is what i exactly told him

[civic spade]

I have a good one

Take out the weak ones

[rain spire]

his ideas are so good i cant clown laugh anymore because how good his ideas are

[hardy holly]

ur ideas are you soon

[hollow nova]

can we not post troll ideas please

i will ping isa

[civic spade]

But imagine though

[hollow nova]

no

[rain spire]

and isa’s british so it makes it scarier

[civic spade]

Only 70% of players will quit

They are the ones who are f2p anyway

Who cares about them

[hardy holly]

quit msging troll ideas

[civic spade]

Its an IDEA

[hardy holly]

abt you *

[grand haven]

@clear stump wakey wakey, there's a troll on our hands

[rain spire]

i think you should now

[civic spade]

Am i getting canceled

[rain spire]

probably

[grand haven]

too late I did it first

[civic spade]

Some people have better ideas then others

Dont mute me

[clear stump]

@civic spade remove your ideas. Thanks.

[civic spade]

They are just jealous but ill remove them

[clear stump]

Not cool, not funny, and downright immature.

[hardy holly]

you are in 1st plce from behind okay i will stop now imma go to #ml-general-discussion

[civic spade]

Let me see what an idea is

I might be dumb

[clear stump]

🤨

[rain spire]

very unwise to even do it without being cautions about the consequences

[civic spade]

a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.

[grand haven]

no one ever said it's not an idea

it's just a very dumb one

[rain spire]

bruh

[clear stump]

It does not mean "a meagre attempt at trolling"

[hardy holly]

just stop you will dig yourself too deep

[civic spade]

Atleast i made this chat the most active

[hardy holly]

[rain spire]

bruh

[civic spade]

For 3sec

[grand haven]

nah, there were better arguments

[hardy holly]

like earlier or was it yesterday idk

[rain spire]

yeah and waste the most braincells out of your already empty head of ideas

[civic spade]

Well you gave me the idea to say that Mr. Dead Chat

[grand haven]

ok

[uncut crater]

[civic spade]

I love my ideas im going on twiter where I can also be bullied

[civic spade]

When i was away my friend gave me an idea with pvp I will post it in #offtopic because it could be “trolling” but i saw the idea and it was good

I gave this idea so i can give all my alts stuff there is no flaw

[thin totem]

nemesis is like 🧠

[rain spire]

@plucky quiver over suggested or banned ideas arent allowed

[plucky quiver]

is it banned or over suggeted

[rain spire]

yes

[plucky quiver]

whichone banned?

[rain spire]

there are probably more that are restricted recently or during past eras

[plucky quiver]

ok

[flint wren]

@tropic citrus that’s not the reason why people leave, people are ok with system, and it’s easy no need to remove it, adds extra grind and power lvl between lvl 20 and lvl 50 player

[tropic citrus]

Lmao ok

[rain spire]

that is just stupid

[slim sedge]

just like self upvoting

[rain spire]

so bad he had to make another feedback because he want us to “listen”

[slim sedge]

isa gonna pull out the mute hammer soon

[clear stump]

Terrarian you seem to be very overt in wanting me to mute someone recently

I will mute when I see fit

[slim sedge]

ok

[gilded eagle]

Holy

This guy takes the cake for most werted idea ever

Feedback*

[karmic fable]

@tropic citrus there's no way your feedback isn't bait

[gilded eagle]

Haven't seen a single soul in the entirety of this games existence complain about that

[versed walrus]

Yep

[grand haven]

A feedback with no upvotes

Impressive I must say

[gilded eagle]

Good job jynxing it

[grand haven]

I see it as an upvote to prove me wrong

And not in support of the feedback

[gilded eagle]

Tru

[weary plank]

temples cringe

reason: i'm s kill issue

[grand haven]

See

I'm right

[gilded eagle]

Self upvote momen

🤢

[verbal notch]

Hello

[gilded eagle]

More of an idea rather than a feedback

[verbal notch]

💡 Idea

[verbal notch]

May I ask, what idea or feedback are you talking about?

[clear stump]

DC has like 4 or 5 paid-only islands, I don't wanna head that way too

[verbal notch]

Wow

[gilded eagle]

Daily loop

[verbal notch]

L2 player

[gilded eagle]

And u put like multiple ideas/feedback into a single post

[verbal notch]

You*

[verbal notch]

Wasn't that a great idea?

Ahh, you downvoted it. It's not like I care, I just wanted to share my thoughts and feedback in a different way, but in short sentences.

I didn't expect discussion chat to be dead, especially on the official server.

[hollow nova]

Didn’t they leak a premium island tho

[clear stump]

A leak exists stating that yes

[somber lagoon]

Wonder how the community will react with another premium island and no free one.

[clear stump]

Not very well, I am sure

[somber lagoon]

Still a leak so hoping it’s not just another ptp island and something else. But we will see.

How have you been btw? Been a while.

[clear stump]

@somber lagoon it's already out.
Also, I'm good! Nice to see you again. How about you?

[somber lagoon]

I’ve been good as well. Thanks for asking.

[grand haven]

Smitho, you are a good man, I'm sorry you had to be done so dirty

[clear stump]

Seeing Smitho's feedback truly makes me sad tbh

[rain spire]

its sad that a company thats careless for the bad features, lack of communication, and lack of major updates ignored everyone and keep nyla with very awful skills

[exotic echo]

Yeah :(

[coral kraken]

I just want to see Smitho happy now

[grand haven]

wow new idea blows

[coral kraken]

wow so incredible

[grand haven]

alright let's move on from that idea

[coral kraken]

rude

[grand haven]

damn, swearing in #general-feedback

[brazen anvil]

[rain spire]

only a matter of time for Paper Mache to dodge the hammers

[coral kraken]

Deleted damn

[coral kraken]

I love how there is a lot of text and then one line

[rain spire]

ok genus’ feedback is just stupid

feedbacks were going good like isabelle and dead chat’s until genus made an ad feedback

[hardy holly]

@dull egret

[dull egret]

Didnt notice she said that

I dont be on this server often

[rain spire]

no downvote button

very spoopy

[clear stump]

Even the bot agrees its not a good idea

🤣

[coral kraken]

[weary plank]

Feedback Bot trying to rig the results

[coral kraken]

My eyes

[lean kelp]

Wait until Zoro Chan realizes that you also have to craft Gold, Diamond and Obsidian relics for tasks aswell

Not just silver

[weary plank]

obsidian relics?

that's a horrible addition

[lean kelp]

Yeah

[hollow nova]

Wait there’s actually craft gold-obsidian?

[coral kraken]

yes

[hollow nova]

silver i can live with, sure

gold-obsidian is stupid

[thin totem]

yea

[rain spire]

this is easily the worst race event

now we have to craft obsidian relics

[gilded eagle]

Bruh

Is there a single positive thing sp has done

🙄

[hardy holly]

uuuh ...

RUSD ?

[weary plank]

yeah maybe RUSD

[gilded eagle]

Tru

But they definitely don't outweigh the negatives

Sp is prob trolling

[rain spire]

• Nerfed the hard Metro dungeons
• Nerfed Atum’s trait
• i think they banned some hackers
• Added multiple RUSDs

[hardy holly]

i wanna see if sme a team tht usually does 85laps not complete because of relic crafting task

[rain spire]

sjenz trolling again

[civic spade]

No

[hardy holly]

now we needing nyla buff

[civic spade]

Please why is it trolling

I need to go on an alt to make ideas dont I

If it was trolling i would have posted it in offtopic

[rain spire]

i think we’re too late for that now

[hardy holly]

yeah i guess but they did smitho dirty now people mght not even join draw monster challenges lol

[thin totem]

but like, not every team is going that far. Krizent Dragons placed I think top 300 last time so if you say like, around 500 team goes for 20 laps right. That's a percentage of 500/100,000 in theory that there's 100,000 active teams, that's a .005 percentage of teams that go for 20+ laps and I don't see any Gold/Diamond/Obsidian relics through lap 1-20 and the relic crafting starts around 10+ laps so it profits the lower amount of teams and ig somewhat benefits the better teams into forcing them to creating Obsidian relics 🥺

[coral kraken]

[lean kelp]

[hardy holly]

i read that fast

[rain spire]

what

[lean kelp]

So what your saying is... you think it's a good change because it doesnt affect you in anyway

[thin totem]

perhaps

I mean, the race's 20 laps only requires 90 silver relics, that's manageable

🥺

[pseudo lodge]

my teams going for 10 laps so we dont have to worry about relic tasks

:trol:]

[thin totem]

😳

[coral kraken]

I would prefer a task of making certain amount of damage instead of that

[rain spire]

please stop

[thin totem]

you tell me man, I rather do a task that takes 30 seconds than a 30 minute task like ranking up 20+ pandakens 😃

[coral kraken]

.

[hardy holly]

do 1mil dmg > breed pandakens

[thin totem]

that would be a nice idea

[hardy holly]

yeah i actually gave up on an ofa because i kept getting greenasaur , i gave it awy :>

[thin totem]

yep

now we just wait for 2 more dyps before bob skips XD

[signal lance]

sjenz's idea is just plain dumb

[thin totem]

🧐

[thin totem]

hm?

[signal lance]

The negative effect idea he made

[thin totem]

oh 💀

yea

[signal lance]

Playing with stats aside from strength is a big no no in my eyes

[weary plank]

on my way to run Negative Stamina runes

[lean kelp]

Negative life runes + pestilence trap for aoe insta kill

[weary plank]

@oblique nimbus

[rain spire]

@wooden thunder bruh

i saw that message you deleted

[wooden thunder]

i know

but still

[rain spire]

also why som puts the “removes ads” crap in the IDEAS channel

[wooden thunder]

thats sounds like feed back but

[rain spire]

it is

[wooden thunder]

the way that someone said that SP was merged by take two is yikes

[rain spire]

take two?

[wooden thunder]

#submit-ideas

someone said it

if thats true then in feedback we need to tell them that was a bad idea

[lyric sable]

That was me, and yes it was true.

[wooden thunder]

FR?

i though they were just stand alone

[lyric sable]

Yep

[wooden thunder]

you don't have proof so you must be capping

no way they have merged

[lyric sable]

By merged I meant bought out

[wooden thunder]

Oh noooooo

so they have to make everything over priced is that why?

so its not SP who just make thing over priced and only take two

[lyric sable]

Yep

[wooden thunder]

so thats why huh?

[lyric sable]

Yes, considering what Take Two has done, it's pretty obvious why SP is acting more greedy than EA

[somber lagoon]

I was thinking that. The way sp talks to players it seems they actually care. But their actions don’t show that. If I had to guess take 2 (probably the worst company out there ) is forcing them to implement things that make more money. Idk just guessing

[thin totem]

yea, the developers have to listen to their boss man but it seems like they actually want to change some stuff so idk

[uncut crater]

smithoooo

[gilded eagle]

Feel bad for smitho

😔

[uncut crater]

same

[signal lance]

I still wonder what state ML would be in if Take 2 didn't buy SP

[weary plank]

probably a better one

[sudden bison]

ml probably wouldve kept legendarys rather than introduce mythics

[clear stump]

Probably not the best thing to send here

[rain spire]

L

[oblique nimbus]

They deleted my msg

[weary plank]

good

[oblique nimbus]

Very good of them

[weary plank]

[clear stump]

I mean that's more of a feedback @remote turret

Plus I question why you're using silex

and the unpingable name. 🤦‍♀️

[rancid cargo]

Guys, where are rune rewards? I can make a feedback if this doesn't get us rewards

[lean kelp]

Rune Lord rewards?

i got them yesterday

[rancid cargo]

Yea

[hollow nova]

i got mine

[weary plank]

i got mine too

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote turret]

Cuz why not

[weary plank]

skill issued ideas

[remote turret]

Wouldn't count it as skill issue if I'm tryna make the game more balanced?

[clear stump]

That's all feedback

[weary plank]

^

[clear stump]

And the additional comments weren't necessary

I have removed it all, please explain properly in #general-feedback

[remote turret]

Ok

[weary plank]

"give f2p better mons!!" literally using Shadowyna and Ahma Niah, two extremely good f2p mons

[remote turret]

Nishant ends both of them

[thin totem]

fr

[weary plank]

good

[thin totem]

💀💀 what is sjenz saying.....

[weary plank]

If Shadowyna and Ahma Niah were able to go around in GMD without a single counter existing then it wouldn't be too balanced I believe

[remote turret]

3/4 of them are trash not even 3/4 it's like 2 of them only good out of blossom era till now

[rain spire]

why havent we muted sjenz yet

[weary plank]

Are you saying there's only 2 good Blossom f2p mythics?

[remote turret]

Even if there is a counter it shouldn't be so op

[rain spire]

bruh

[remote turret]

How to suggest?

[weary plank]

read pins

[remote turret]

Like send

It

Ok

[weary plank]

[remote turret]

I bet all p2ws are gonna go with ❎

[brazen anvil]

[sudden bison]

“making p2w monsters too op” meanwhile in the glp rn we have a mediocre tank for 20$ and the worst attacker for 50$

[remote turret]

Well other seasons ?

Would say king atum and serp and nishant

[brazen anvil]

Nishant isnt good lmao

[remote turret]

My whole idea of this is just find a way to make f2ps win in gmd

[sudden bison]

king atum can be countered with monsters that can apply DOTs

[remote turret]

In gmd it's cracked

[brazen anvil]

It isnt, it just counters your team with mt

[weary plank]

making p2w monsters way too op and make f2p monster garbage
Cupid, Uriel, Elvira, Galvanus, Shadowyna, Ahma Niah, Volcanyx, Forge Labs, Mother Talika. In Metro we also had Fatastor, Posidonia and Slumster. All of these were obtainable F2P and were very good

[remote turret]

Ok tell me a team consist of f2ps that can counter king stum and Nishant in gmd

[weary plank]

Ahma Niah/Volcanyx + Shadowyna + Slab?

[remote turret]

Forge labs bad in gmd , volcanyx isn't obtained yet from f2ps ahma niah and shadowyna countered by Nishant and the rest are from doomed

[remote turret]

How are you winning?mm

You forgot anticipation exist

[brazen anvil]

Rather flasherion instead of ahma

[weary plank]

And Slab will take all the damage from Nishant because Taunt protects the 2 DAs

If Slab doesn't die, you can then try killing Nishant

[brazen anvil]

Well Shadownya has da at r5

[remote turret]

When slab dies;-;

What u gonna do?

Attack Nishant with ahma?

[weary plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote turret]

Which is magic to magic

[brazen anvil]

Dont play gmd

[weary plank]

true

[remote turret]

Exactly

[sudden bison]

ima be honest, imo monster legends is one of the least p2w mobile games out there (thats free and has a multiplayer) its getting more p2w maybe but rn its not that p2w

[remote turret]

That's why I'm tryna find a solution

[weary plank]

based players wait for normal duels to be back

[remote turret]

For this in gmd

[sudden bison]

facts

[remote turret]

"not that p2w"

[brazen anvil]

The solution is gonna be a f2p pierce

Just need to wait

[sudden bison]

compared to other games its not

[remote turret]

That's why I asked for better mons for f2ps

[remote turret]

Maybe but still the difference between p2w and f2p is huge

I can spend money if I want

But paying money to a game to have an advantage over the other isn't skill

[clear stump]

sjenz feedback

either accept criticism or don't suggest anything.

[sudden bison]

its not that big, all they get is some runes and very few good p2w monsters (at this time). the p2w monsters can be countered and f2ps can get the same runes since there is always a f2p section of the books.

[remote turret]

"some"

[remote turret]

You didn't look at legends pass

Did you?

[sudden bison]

i did but ok

[remote turret]

You saw the rewards?

I'm just pissed from that gmd thing

Other than that

It's easily winnable in pvp

[sudden bison]

nothing notable, even the tank is mediocre and u can get a level X rune normally

[remote turret]

Level X rune isn't what I'm talking about LOL

[sudden bison]

u wanna know why i haven’t argued against ur gmd claims, its because ive never done a grandmaster duel since the corrupted era lol

[remote turret]

Well

If you did

You better not of f2p

[sudden bison]

fair, cant argue if i havent tried it

[clear stump]

i'm gonnago do a GMD with nereida, atum, ahma niah just to be annoying

oops, forgot my entire team is based on ETs

🤣

[remote turret]

Go with ahma + Nishant + king stum

[clear stump]

don't have nishant

[remote turret]

Your done if you go to gmd with ETs

[clear stump]

[clear stump]

i know

[remote turret]

Ok ur basically done if you got no nishant

GG if you can win

Send me screen shot if you won

Which won't happen

[clear stump]

Who said I am trying to win

I am there to be annoying

[brazen anvil]

Juju won with ahma as attacker lmao

[clear stump]

stalled someoe for 9 mins with Atum until they quit lol

[brazen anvil]

[rain spire]

i feel like crystalnuke is being a bozo monent

[remote turret]

Prob didn't go vs nishant

[remote turret]

Or it was before king atum release

[brazen anvil]

It was now

[remote turret]

Send screen shot

Of that

Rn

I want proof

[remote turret]

No ur being stupid rn

[remote turret]

No proof it was in s3

[weary plank]

[remote turret]

And I bet she didn't go vs nishant and king atum

[weary plank]

JuJu went against Nishant and Atum in one before and got 5 wins at least

[remote turret]

Nah

That's a cap

100%

Now ur capping

[remote turret]

It's impossible

[weary plank]

never said they won

you're just trying excuses at this point

[remote turret]

.

[weary plank]

yes, they got 5 wins but didn't win against Nishant and Atum

[trim ember]

Even i won this team 3 times lol

[weary plank]

very pro

[trim ember]

The fact that i was lucky and not met with atum+nish

[signal lance]

Nope

[coral kraken]

Skill issue

[signal lance]

If I have to describe how Nish doesn't even come close to countering a Shadow ÷ Niah team I will

[brazen anvil]

Nishant with mt does

[signal lance]

Nope

Niah and Shadow can be built to be both strong and difficult to kill

[brazen anvil]

With life runes

[signal lance]

And now with the release of Mother Talika even the DOT's aren't a problem

[slim sedge]

@livid cave check the pins

[thin totem]

sobbing about exotic lands

[foggy axle]

@karmic fable SP probably just haven't added them to all of their respective books yet, I bet that in a week they'll be in all the right books. The era and monsters were just released, it could be and likely is just a bug. Plus I doubt they're trying to spite their playerbase

[grand haven]

idk, with everything this season brought so far

they'll just not care about the players this month

[gilded eagle]

When have they ever

[karmic fable]

i really hope that is the case.

idk if it's happened before, but i know they have a sort of soft limit for the amount of books a monster can be in

it's like 3, plus the full era book

and then they can be put in more after their release, which i feel is kinda weird like why not just put them in a bunch of books automatically

and the era saga books count, look at emmerice being in wicked gaia upon release and then only being in 2 other books (until the blossom era)

it'd suck if they just...purposefully made the epigursus and master pet era sagas harder

i bought the season 4 golden pass on a level 30 baby account and i have absolutely no idea how i will do them

[hardy holly]

sjenz

[wanton thicket]

[civic spade]

Ive got all of you noted

especially that feedback bot guy

He always hates my feedback

[signal lance]

This is just sad. Like dude you are acting like a child right now

[grand haven]

good to see you man

[civic spade]

Im sorry for kinda blackmailing all of you I apologize

That feedback should have been removed but still some of my feedback shouldnt have been removed becuase it was actual feedback

If that one gets removed i will actually be annoyed

Also i meant to do because i know somebody will call me out

[serene hawk]

i hope you're joking

[serene hawk]

please know the definition of blackmailing before actually using it

[civic spade]

Well i did say i will note everyone that does X the post so i think you need to know the definition

If somebody says if you dont appreciate them, they will NOTE YOU DOWN it is pretty much blackmailing after all if you dont do that, you dont know what will happen to you

Of course i have to say for alot of reasons that it was a joke

[hardy holly]

i dont thnk that is the meaning of it lol

[civic spade]

I just want to say ban me you all are “not smart”

[hardy holly]

you said we stupid then edited

[civic spade]

Im sorry are you feelings hurt

[hardy holly]

no i insult myself each day

[civic spade]

Maybe thats why your so smart

Wouldnt be surprised if any other people in this discord server are as smart as you

Also kinda isnt a know word in this discord server everyone only thinks of 100% of a word so they can take it out of context

Im kinda dying. Oh what you know what the definition of dying is lmao you should be on the ground loosing blood your so stupid hahahha

… is that enough of defending myself

You all take stuff out of context like shut up twiter 2.0

[hardy holly]

black mailing is forcing someone to do something in exchange for you not revealing their secret

[civic spade]

And kinda doesnt come into help my statement that i kinda threatened people to not X the post or else i would note them down. They dont X the post and i dont do whatver by noting them down or hunting them down

Of course its a joke and the note people down is just for me to get more down votes

[hardy holly]

@glossy juniper

[glossy juniper]

sorry.but that means that will be added to the game?

[hardy holly]

no , unless they decide to

[glossy juniper]

the edit island thing is obe of the best things they could add

i think the want people to buy the gem isnland

[civic spade]

Island skins would be pretty nice. And you can purchase the skins with gems and they give diffrent boosts like 10%+ gold, food …

[glossy juniper]

i like that ideia

[civic spade]

I dont want to put it into ideas because it is a way of editing your island but yeah it would be pretty nice and your island would look better

[golden hawk]

Is there any way to track what players are doing the one for all in race? If not, should be.

[thin totem]

yea

we had a huge argument on who did what 💀

[hardy holly]

it was drma who doesnt like drma

[golden hawk]

We have that drama every race.

[thin totem]

yea

[rancid cargo]

me ofc

[white fable]

@daring ledge support can give back those gems

[clear stump]

@graceful echo in case you're unaware, the Goal to clear 500 obstacles doesn't necessarily mean you have 500 obstacles on your islands. New obstacles do generate as time passes

[foggy axle]

Oh I haven’t noticed that before, you could totally be right then

Fingers crossed it isn’t the case

[clear stump]

It's generally 3 war-books per monster, if not 2 plus the faction. YouTube books etc are all additional and aren't involved.

Has been that way since 2018. That's why Thalassa isn't in female book etc.

[honest parcel]

It seems the bot is broken

[clear stump]

As always.

[clear stump]

@shy robin I think you need to be a bit more detailed, wdym by "smash" it?

I've removed it from #submit-ideas given you posted in feedback channel too.

[shy robin]

A way to complete it instantly its not op its just a qol change

[oblique nimbus]

Pls bring back the 2014 music theme for the bday

Pls pls psl

Pls*

[gilded eagle]

🤦‍♂️

[clear stump]

Its on youtube

[fossil relic]

Advancement Made:Those Were Days

[coral kraken]

I would be could to add it as an easter egg

[gilded eagle]

What

[coral kraken]

I mean cool

My bad

[gilded eagle]

O

[gilded eagle]

Why

[oblique nimbus]

But i want it now, players should be able to select the theme music

[rain spire]

new rarities are a horrible idea

[hardy holly]

agreed

[clear stump]

I think Sage is missing the point of, we aren't in DC

Heroic rarity dragons have their drawbacks which make them not always priority above Legendsry dragons, especially ones like the titans

In 2014 they were regularly adding legendaries
Then focus shifted to only legendaries, some of them being in a specific special new group
Then it changed to all monsters being same rarity same generation which makes things easier for all

We don't need another new rarity

I don't understand that feedback either

[slim sedge]

@woeful pollen sp doesn't control surveys

[fossil relic]

U mean there not gonna make any legendarys

[clear stump]

They haven't made legendsries since 2020

[serene hawk]

blackmailing is defined as, "demand money or another benefit from (someone) in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them", or "force (someone) to do something by using threats or manipulating their feelings", in which you did neither.. so tell me now, who needs to know the definition, genius?

[serene hawk]

that's called an "empty threat"

[serene hawk]

plus, "dying" does not mean "on the ground (losing) blood"

[woeful pollen]

sadge

[civic spade]

Your so smart, if only i understood your logic

Ill say its not blackmailing but it was a way to get my point across. In my head i was threatening you which is similar to blackmail so what will you say to that

So can you just be quiet now

If you guys werent gonna stop the argument like some ‘not smart’ twiter users i had to give you the point

Well done im so proud of you

Now I have to go get some milk I bet you guys have experienced this before 🇱

Also just before i go get some milk just looked at the definition and it did say another benefit which could be me demanding you to like and not X the post but i guess im still wrong

Also it is a joke but my secret could be info about you so i dont think im even wrong but i am because i cant win against crackheads

@# Now its time for somebody to reply to me without even reading my whole argument

[grand haven]

uhh bot's dead?

or maybe the bot can't handle 3000-character essays omegalul

[rain spire]

better save that text before it comes alive again

Blossom Era is the most lamest era smh

and has more flaws than doomsday and corrupted

[foggy axle]

blackmail: mail for black people. I sourced this from a very well-known dictionary so I think it’s odd that you are using the term ‘blackmailing’ in this argument.

But to be fr just making some immature, out of place jabs doesn’t help your argument much

[wooden thunder]

@still bough bad idea

we don't need new raity

look what happen to mythics

they just wipe the whole legend race

we don't want it to happen again

[civic spade]

I didnt even read your message i said im done

I was to curious and I read it, bruh im stupid

Your right

Im sorry i was racist

I shouldnt have used that word in such a professional environment

[slim sedge]

bruh

just shut and follow the rules

[weary plank]

@dire jay post that here. also SP has implemented ideas and feedback, and even one monster from #monster-ideas

[signal lance]

@karmic fable SP doesn't control tasks

[clear stump]

A few things:
This isn't the feedback channel
Socialpoint doesn't control tasks, Ironsource controls them
Apple places restrictions on what tasks offerwall companies can advertise on ios

[rain spire]

@frank osprey #monster-ideas

[frank osprey]

Hi

[rain spire]

@uneven pivot #general-feedback

[clear stump]

I like being able to do my job

[rain spire]

fine

[versed walrus]

No one likes a minimod lol

But everyone likes when they get called out

[rain spire]

thats how society works

[clear stump]

[slim sedge]

sentri becomes mod when?

[rain spire]

i will commit bonk everyone

[clear stump]

Feedback on leaks is just a no.

[versed walrus]

#werted

[honest parcel]

Look I’m not a fan of the Blossom Era either but Taunt was absolutely not meta this era at all

[versed walrus]

Ofc not but the amount of tanks was absurd

I didn’t hate this era I just thought after have few tanks last era they had way too many and after having no TT monsters they will have at least 3.

[signal lance]

I think whats funnier is that despite the tank monsters being good and all none of them were META like seriously as good as King Atum is I have found in hundred of pvp battles that he isn't used much like I have seen him exactly 5 times and most of them where some weird of brand team that barely functioned

[versed walrus]

Yea he is not used much at all

Which is even sadder

During Doomsday there were so many monsters usable in pvp at different times

During Blossom it has just been Shadownya, Ahma, Serp, Mother Talika and maybe Nerieda de Danaan

[signal lance]

I another thing to note was that both of the META TT monsters where available f2p like seriously saving 150 gems is easier than it seems

[versed walrus]

Yea I just think why do we need more than 2 with firefool now coming soon

And Shadownya was way too OP lol

TT and PER and Trait disable all with ETs

[signal lance]

Oh wait Firefool has TT?

[versed walrus]

Yep

And the light hater to counter the meta is also OP

[signal lance]

Honestly out of the 3 TT monsters Shadow is the only one deserving of being called OP in my eyes

[versed walrus]

Yea

Ahma is Meta tho

[signal lance]

True

[hardy holly]

if nly she has NER with her TT

[versed walrus]

Yea

[signal lance]

But back on topic what is OP with the new Obsidian relics?

[versed walrus]

Idk

[hardy holly]

ive seen none catching my eye

[versed walrus]

Shadownya’s essence was rly good

But we needed an upgrade to Flameras

Maybe Ant’s Amulet?

[hardy holly]

yes but like op to lke im crying because dont have gems

[signal lance]

Like I know Murk staff is good and Shadow essence is broken but that aside none of the others seemed good

[signal lance]

I have seen it used but its pretty meh

[hardy holly]

ants pyrophobic shield cant be cleansed

[signal lance]

Like don't get me wrong its effects are pretty good with a big heal and elemental shield but thats about it

[versed walrus]

Yea

[signal lance]

Well the monster yes but the relic no

[versed walrus]

Also I like having good obsidian relics more than crazy talents

But the talents have been soooo bad this era

[hardy holly]

yeah that costed me 6 wins in GMD

[versed walrus]

I agree with that

[signal lance]

Agreed

Atums Cross, Sigil, and Trisk have been the only good ones with The Hare being a possible candidate

[versed walrus]

Yea

[hardy holly]

yeah atleast doomed has good ones , metro era talents were good , corrupted too

[versed walrus]

Yea

Doomed talents were too good

[signal lance]

Corrupted talents where the most OP by far

[versed walrus]

We definitely needed a step back but we needed some good ones

[hardy holly]

we needing 7 sins nerf

[versed walrus]

Doomed talents with SoD and Seven Sins were crazy

[versed walrus]

No we don’t lol

[hardy holly]

some people agree i mean atleast below 50% hp is better than each hit

[versed walrus]

But just take a second to compare the amount of monsters that were viable in pvp from the doomsday era during it versus the number of monsters from the blossom era viable in pvp so far

[signal lance]

Only 3 maybe 4 are gonna be META

[versed walrus]

Doomsday - Clach, Hidrorion, Snowgross, Teddybomb, Raris, Galv, Shiv, Elvira, Uriel, Cupid, Elfeera, Sparkus maybe you can add Jaeger Yearend or Lord Inheritor but that is so many more than the blossom era

This era there have been way too many atrocious monsters.

[honest parcel]

Way too many F tier monsters. All the PVP monsters were garbage, Quest has been laughably bad (although I have hope for Dunn Fatid), F2P BH has been a joke, Frat has been meh

[sudden bison]

imo, cosmic era was the most balanced

no talents,not a very big gap between p2w and f2ps (compared to now), pretty decent variety in the meta