ideas-feedback-discussion

[rain spire]

probably both

[slim sedge]

he'll get muted when isa sees this channel, dw

[woven drum]

Pls no

[clear stump]

i've seen it already

[slim sedge]

[autumn geyser]

Hey can someone let me right in recruit beginner

[rain spire]

wrong channel

[weary plank]

no

[rain spire]

@karmic fable over suggested/banned idea

[gilded eagle]

What on God's green earth is that type of idea

[uncut crater]

ping me if my feedback makes no sense lol

[clear stump]

Rewards are based on points

Put work in, get more

[uncut crater]

but fugitive sniping?

[weary plank]

My fugitive got sniped and I still got first place, maybe I have too much skill tho

[plucky loom]

Skill issue

[uncut crater]

im the one that does the sniping lol

[plucky loom]

Then why are you complaining about it

[uncut crater]

because its un fair

like doing all the damage then a skill issue suffering noob takes the kill, the gems, and the coins

[versed walrus]

It is only like 75 gems and that is in L8 you get better rewards from getting first the killing the fugitive reward is not that high

[pine pike]

https://discordapp.com/channels/352076021421441036/469811533762002944/965576131870883841 What should be the names of the 2 effects?

[clear stump]

I don't know if Fiction has realised the battle cutscene doesn't control or even affect the damage shown after each combat.

[versed walrus]

lol

[clear stump]

I think having an effect that matches the name of an existing move isn't a good idea.
Many early game breedable monsters have "Flooding" as a skill. It's almost comparable to Roots on Grakon... there's now a control effect with that name. But also, he and The Undertaker share the move No Rest For The Wicked, so and so forth.

[grand haven]

and also, it's pretty broken

a 40% slow is huge

25% is also pretty big

[clear stump]

I do believe 25% is what it was when the effect was actively used on monsters

[grand haven]

yea it applies to legendaries

so the decrease wasn't that significant

[signal lance]

So the new event cycle Idea has some problems. What evenst would replace the other events? More importantly creating events is harder than it looks with it requiring coding, possible map designs, and of course testing

[versed walrus]

Yea and the amount of bugs that come with them snd the community judging them and thinking of what the rewards can be

[karmic fable]

True

What are we talking about again

[sudden bison]

true, it would take a LONG time for the new events to get into the game without bugs

[signal lance]

That is true. Bounty took nearly two Eras to come out and even to this day its still buggy

[sudden bison]

didnt think about that, yea that major insta kill bug was there for a while wasnt it

[rain spire]

sweats in MLO User Card Flip Challenge in #monster-ideas

[brazen copper]

Hey guys does anyone know what this monsters name is came across it when in live duels today?

The blue one lol

[sudden bison]

exclusive pass, but make sure to post these stuff in #ml-general-discussion

[brazen copper]

Oh sorry! I thought this was open discussion I apologize

And ty

[sudden bison]

no need to apologize, just reminding u

and np

[versed walrus]

Atleast tell then the monster is Seashell Guard smh

@hardy holly the reason the rewards are like that is bc a lot of the time only 2-3 people fight the fugitive

[hardy holly]

yeah but atleast make it 500 is good imo so they people who did atk but couldnt get top 2 can get decent rewards

[versed walrus]

They don’t deserve decent rewards if they don’t fight the fugitive

If you wanna get good ending rewards fight the fugitive

If you want to get other good rewards pick up bags and dont get good rewards after

[hardy holly]

people cant do alot of dmg but decent 5-10 mil hits , some prefer to fight and help beat the fug bag hunting imo is pretty bad ur not 100% sure if u can get rewards with ur stamina

[versed walrus]

If you bag hunt you won’t get good rewards at the end bc that helps no one but yourself. If you fight the fugitive that helps everyone so you get good rewards.

5-10 mil damage per hit helps a lot in the long term

[hardy holly]

i atk the fug , even if i only do 5-10 mil to help beat the fug , i only hunt bags if im 100% certain i can get the bag

[versed walrus]

Your still hunting bags you don’t deserve ending rewards if you spend any stamina on bags after fugitive js found

[hardy holly]

only 1 stam then i recharge stam if i dont get red or purple

[versed walrus]

That is 5-10 mil damage that could have been there

[hardy holly]

if its 100% certain i use it , but if i cant do it with 1 stam i just forget the arrows exist

[versed walrus]

If you want to get the ending rewards then fight the fugitive as much as possible

This is how it is and how it should be

[hardy holly]

i cant get to their pts if they have 40k and im at 10k lol

[versed walrus]

You should have fought more

[hardy holly]

i was asleep when they find rag

[versed walrus]

They are rewarding the people that deal the most damage to the fugitive

[versed walrus]

Thats your problem

Not every time you can get first or second

[hardy holly]

if only rag was not as op as he is or atleast give him a random element each pool

[versed walrus]

One time I got 3rd even though I was fighting the fugitive a lot bc I had to go to sleep and the fugitive was killed over night

I am not complaining about it like you

[versed walrus]

But he is that OP

And your not complaining about Rag being OP your complaining about how the rewards are not fair when they are very fair

[hardy holly]

well sometimes people get really close like 50k then someones at 48k or smth

[versed walrus]

And most of the time people don’t

That is what happened to me the one time but I just dealt with it bc I value sleep more than this game

[hardy holly]

anyways bh is bh rag is annoying , i still think he shoukd have a random element though

[versed walrus]

Then go submit that as an idea of him starting off with a random elemental weakness

[hardy holly]

imma go do that lol

now to wait what people will say to that 😆

[uncut crater]

75 gems can be alpt

[weary plank]

Delete players chat

good idea

[rain spire]

@gilded eagle bruh

how roleless users gonna chat without players chat

[weary plank]

They'll just wait in Oblivion until they prove they're worthy of Monster Legends Official™️.

[weary plank]

@kind cape btw read the feedback above yours

[karmic fable]

Tuly a good idea

😔

[kind cape]

I've read those already and sorry if I sound rude but i am getting sick of how dumb the ai is

[karmic fable]

Im getting sick of control bh monsters feedback tbh

Just learn to deal with it or smth

[weary plank]

Make the battle scenes we see in BH reflect how much damage is actually being dealt bc they are incredibly misleading.

[karmic fable]

Bro they arent misleading

[weary plank]

It's only showing they're recharging, the damage is calculated before the battle. The battle isn't accurate to the actual damage dealt

[karmic fable]

Also ai has no effect on damage iirc, its just predetermined, the battle is probably for show

[karmic fable]

Yeah and thats shown before the battle for like a frame

[weary plank]

true

[weary plank]

Yep

[kind cape]

Then how come one time i do 20 mil damage and the attack after i do 30k

[gilded eagle]

Bad

[weary plank]

How are we supposed to know

[karmic fable]

Because something happened idk

[rain spire]

i like how people still talk about BH’s bad ai when fighting the fuge

[signal lance]

Like we said the battle is pre-determined

Its a roll on the dice to see how much damage you do

[karmic fable]

True

Wait no its not necessarily a dice roll

[rancid cargo]

I'm fine without King Atum as I have Pangoliath all the way

[grand haven]

oh yeah I forgot to mention the facts that the monsters that are released came straight out of #monster-ideas

[rain spire]

i cant wait for Company Man to make the video “decline of SP”

[rancid cargo]

Sup bro

I shouldn't have pinged you about 3 rune slots on Pangoliath is sill issue

[rancid cargo]

I'm so tired of them complaining about them being angry at SP

[rain spire]

so youre like that ‘ignorance is bliss’ guy?

[rancid cargo]

Yeah, true

People are just getting tired of that negative feedback

[rain spire]

i dislike you but i respect your option to not care anymore

[rancid cargo]

Why bully me

[rain spire]

you bullied me before

[rancid cargo]

After that I apologized, remember

[rain spire]

yeah yeah i get it

[rancid cargo]

It is still flooding with feedback about that powercreep

[rain spire]

i didnt care of the trait redesigns

except Taunt

i hate it but there isnt a thing you can do but yell at SP

[rancid cargo]

Yeah, but for me, with kindness

[grand haven]

I would love to yell at SP with kindness, when they finally do something good

[rancid cargo]

Yeah, but for me with kindness

[rancid cargo]

Same

[rancid cargo]

King Atum has the most broken trait in 100% damage mirror as a trait

[rain spire]

Every Pierce: pathetic

[rancid cargo]

True, imo I don't have an issue about him

Pierce already existed

So @rain spire how's it going out there?

[rain spire]

#offtopic

[grand haven]

I like that the latest feedback thinks all the complains about Atum was because he's p2w

I'm planning to go in-depth once Atum's entire moveset is confirmed

[rain spire]

everyone being mad at Atum’s traits

“They being mad because hes P2W”

[rancid cargo]

True, but Pierce exists

[plucky loom]

And trait disable

[dapper oyster]

and killing him in one hit

[keen flax]

I said her instead of him bruh moment

[gilded eagle]

[rain spire]

@final elm bruh

you could just oh i dont know…change the name of the monster by doing it yourself

[dapper oyster]

difference between papá and papa though, though not sure why wormanoid would be potato or father :p

[final elm]

that is not the point, bro. You should have an option to not have automatic nicknames. idk about you but manually changing the names of 300 monsters could be extremely annoying. At least they should have an on or off switch for every next one to hatch

[rain spire]

ok

[final elm]

I have a question for you

How many monsters have you named yourself?

[rain spire]

despite being a decent and slight ok change, i really dont see a reason why

[final elm]

Only the ones you use often or have used often, no?

[rain spire]

i dont get it

[final elm]

Do you name all your monsters?

[rain spire]

a minor of mythics yes

[final elm]

only the ones you use in pvp

Now, do you remember every single monster in your collection? And what they are called?

[rain spire]

i give renamed Nebotus which he is the main monster i used in PVP

[rain spire]

i wouldnt show it in mlo for obvious reasons

[final elm]

Because I don't remember their normal names constantly, but I do remember their nicknames which does not help me at all looking for them in the monstergram

What is important is why nicknames are there. They are there to change the name of specific monsters of your choice to call them in a different preferred way.

I am sure if the switch was there to not have auto assigned names, a decent percentage of all players would have auto nichnames turnt off

[karmic fable]

#general-feedback is actually funny and fun to read now, not gonna lie

The only problem i have with atum is the fact that he's paid and is op, even tho he can get countered by pierce and trait disable

[rain spire]

shhhh

let them get angry

[karmic fable]

True

[rain spire]

hell even i got angry

[karmic fable]

I didn't

[radiant fox]

We have a plethora of Pierce monsters available

[karmic fable]

I was just dissapointed

[karmic fable]

Some Pay2Plays got access to Serpentex, Some F2ps got access to Cherub Cupid

[radiant fox]

Well... U're forgetting the last Season's Exclusive BH monster too... Elfeera, I think?

[weary plank]

Yeah

It's only about Serpentex and Cherub Cupid now

[karmic fable]

Yes, Infact, She's his worst nightmare

[weary plank]

don't mention Jaeger, he's gone from the game now.

[karmic fable]

Pierce + 30% removal and hard hitting skills

[radiant fox]

Then we have the outdated Spekthra and Stalkiller, who, if they can be kept alive, got access to ridiculous Corrupted Talents

[karmic fable]

We'll talk about this later

[weary plank]

why

[radiant fox]

Ah yes, see... We have so many I'm forgetting too

[karmic fable]

Beambot aswell

But you get the point

[rain spire]

Vastus: bruh

[final elm]

Would you guys say this game is pay2win?

[weary plank]

[karmic fable]

Depends

[radiant fox]

Always has been

Every game is, tbh

[karmic fable]

90% are anyway ^

Some are very f2p friendly

[final elm]

my point

[radiant fox]

And we wouldn't have games worth playing if it weren't so...

[karmic fable]

^^^

This guy gets it

🤝

[final elm]

honestly this game gives people who are willing to pay a chance to have a monster everyone can get a month later sooner. I think that is all it does

[radiant fox]

Well... Lord Inheritor is still paywall 😂

[final elm]

yeah

[radiant fox]

I love his design... Wondering when he'll be available

[karmic fable]

Yeah but atleast he got his path

[final elm]

wait was he not buyable in cells store?

[karmic fable]

Dude was available 3 times

Hoping for the Hidrorion path next so i can purchase him

[radiant fox]

The path, my friend was paywalled too 😂

[final elm]

no wait that was nebotus, mb

[radiant fox]

U see, u couldn't have the path without him in the first place

[karmic fable]

Yeah but, 3 chances to get him, even if he was paywalled

[radiant fox]

Fact

[karmic fable]

For p2ps anyway

You could also take the chances with the marathon doomed chest

I opened it twice and got emmerice + elvira

[radiant fox]

Fr?

[karmic fable]

First Elvira, Than Emmerice

[karmic fable]

Yes, i have screenshots

[radiant fox]

Mmm... Interesting... Maybe I'll try it this time

[pine crow]

I wonder if they ever going to upgrade the land or give us more access to keys for monster vault smh

[final elm]

is there a chance to get raris and elvira in next bh?

[radiant fox]

Who knows...

[final elm]

I really want raris tbh, dont give a yikes about elvira

[karmic fable]

Goodluck, it's such a risk but it can definitely be rewarding

[radiant fox]

Thanks man... Will let u know if I succeed 😬

Wouldn't mind Xiron or Alarorc too, for that matter

[karmic fable]

Anyways back to discussing #general-feedback, I honestly hope they don't change his trait after he's released

[radiant fox]

Well, we still have Seven Sins as it is... So there's hope

[karmic fable]

Like don't get me wrong, but I don't want the same thing that happened with power armor happens with him

Alot of people got the pass for it after that got nerfed

[final elm]

pierce does not negate damage mirror, right?

[radiant fox]

It does

[final elm]

it does?

[karmic fable]

It bypasses it

[radiant fox]

It goes straight through EVERYTHING

[karmic fable]

^

Other than relics

[final elm]

then king atum wont be as broken aside from mt

[rain spire]

sword relics are pierce skills because they bypass shields or evasion smh

[radiant fox]

Idk why ppl didn't have a problem with Serpentrex, but now are ganging up on poor Atum

[karmic fable]

Sword relics don't bypass evasion but i get the joke

[final elm]

Ok wait a minute

[rain spire]

some do

[karmic fable]

Twitter moment my friend

[radiant fox]

😂😂

[final elm]

if an attacker has damage mirror and attacks another with damage mirror, will the damage bounce until one is dead?

[rain spire]

and Shield Relics can bypass Shield Break, Artifacts and other PEB Effects

how fair is that

[radiant fox]

I mean, Darmith was a huge disappointment, Nishant was okay at best, and now we finally get a kick-ass upgrade to a General and we're seeing a crusade?

[rain spire]

still waiting on Ingvar

[radiant fox]

Thetys 😍

[rain spire]

shut

no one likes her

[final elm]

is atum going to be included in the pass or one of the extra buyable side next to pass monsters?

[radiant fox]

No, damage doesn't circle indefinitely... Once is all it is

[karmic fable]

Like

[radiant fox]

Atum is GLP

Brain guy is the extra

[final elm]

ah

[karmic fable]

Atum is $20
Talika is free
Brainlodon is $50

[final elm]

ahh

[radiant fox]

I'm not naming it since leaks aren't allowed

😛

[karmic fable]

It's in monstergram already so no worries lol

Same with atum, ect

[radiant fox]

It is? Haven't checked lol

[karmic fable]

Yep

[final elm]

naming what

ah

[radiant fox]

Rag keeping me depressed and busy

😭

[final elm]

Brainlien seems kinda pog

i mean brainlodon

muscle memory

if it had trait disable oooooh that would be tooo nice

and broken

[radiant fox]

Atum's trait is what has convinced me to actually get the pass this time

[karmic fable]

Dude, the skills are the problem

Like

[radiant fox]

Talika already has TD, I think

[final elm]

which one of the traits?

[karmic fable]

Also hp

[karmic fable]

She doesn't

[radiant fox]

Ewww

[karmic fable]

War monster

[radiant fox]

The Legend version did

[karmic fable]

Hi Existence

[final elm]

I am more afraid of his speed

7777

that is a lucky number

[radiant fox]

Rag keeps Megafreezing my attacker... Even if Don unfreezes him, it's still a turn wasted and buffs gone 😭

[lean kelp]

👁️

I love it when this era of feedbacks happen, the back and forth arguing 🍿

[rancid cargo]

True

In fact I usually do this with kindness

[gilded eagle]

Dudes really maldin over auto generated names

🤦‍♂️

[weary plank]

King Atom can single handedly be defeated by shadowyna and not to mention that free pass monsters like master Goldfield and UV Fusion can easily deal with him with the right team comp.
I mean.. Turtle's Armour

But yeah I agree

[lean kelp]

The fact Lord Inheritor was barely used in s1 of doomsday era

[gilded eagle]

Is meta but not meta breaking

[jade sparrow]

Cope + L + ratio + get good + skill issue

[final elm]

It is a simple fix, so why not suggest it

[gilded eagle]

Fix to what

It's not even that big of an issue

[final elm]

It is a suggestion. Does not mean it has to be a big issue 🙂

[grand haven]

why do we gotta wait 10 minutes to make another feedback now

[rain spire]

damn NC with those long paragraphs

he should make documents for historic events

[grand haven]

not good in history tho

[rain spire]

oof

[weary plank]

Can't wait for your feedbacks to get less upvotes than

Fix everything and Make the game great again....

[grand haven]

Not if I do it first

jk

[weary plank]

[karmic fable]

@latent sinew if account sharing is a bannable offense do you really think they would add account merging to the game?

[grand haven]

Time to wait for the feedbacks to roll in

[weary plank]

Will Axel be the first

Yes.

[leaden hazel]

Yep 🥲

[radiant fox]

😂😂

[rain spire]

its not that much a problem tbh

plus its better to save gems for race

[leaden hazel]

Lol, if you say so

You're too pro

[rain spire]

yep

another came

[slim sedge]

sentri typing in #general-feedback

[radiant fox]

Well... Ppl got their wish... Atum is no longer ridiculous, and frankly, little incentive to rush to r5 now

[rain spire]

not exactly what i wanted

[radiant fox]

Me neither

[slim sedge]

oh well

[clear stump]

50% damage mirror on a permanent mt tank is still busted imo

[radiant fox]

I mean, we have Seven Sins and Spear of Destiny running amok on Uriels and Cupids

[rain spire]

i mean we havent got a MT Trait for awhile

[radiant fox]

If that is not unbalanced, idk what is...

Guess Serpentrex will dominate PvP for quite a while until it gets... "Out..stated"?

[slim sedge]

outdated

[radiant fox]

Nah, out"stated" 😬

[slim sedge]

or when we get an even better pierce monster

[rain spire]

Wheatley is still better

[radiant fox]

Ok, I'll stop with the joke, since no one is getting it

[rain spire]

nor any of us care

[slim sedge]

cringe name, can't do pierce aoe without ult or another mon with PEP

[slim sedge]

there was a joke?

[rain spire]

b-but Wheatley Crab

[slim sedge]

I thought you were just being stupid tbh

[rain spire]

i mean i know some that are stupid

[slim sedge]

also he's just a ball so

[rain spire]

everyone in #general-feedback

[radiant fox]

Ik, I give off the stupid vibe a lot 😂

[rain spire]

and Nathura isnt a good waifu

[radiant fox]

Hardly anything I say makes sense

[slim sedge]

wrong and cringe and banned and skill issue

[grand haven]

man I'm glad you think that, but change your thinking because I'm also stupid

[rain spire]

there

now what the hell is that feedback above Gui

[karmic fable]

theres a reason they never made more islands

[signal lance]

@karmic fable SP has said the reason why they can't really make a new Island. That being storage space

If SP makes a new island it could literally crash peoples games

[karmic fable]

^

[rain spire]

also over suggested idea

AND THE FEEDBACK CHANNEL

also hows my idea

[weary plank]

Pro idea

I would like if there was an easier way to find books tho

Scrolling until I find it can be annoying

[rain spire]

Bookshelves are also a good idea for the library so you wont scroll too much just to find the Villains Book without needing to scroll through the Era Chapter Books

[rain spire]

also self upvote

[karmic fable]

@signal lance thank you for letting me know but as i can see dragon city has more islands and the game still fine?

[radiant fox]

I think the word "meta" gets thrown around a bit too much around here...

[weary plank]

It should only be used on actual META monsters, like FaZe

[clear stump]

@stuck geyser I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with your idea. Anyone and everyone can be epic or legendary as long as they have zeppelin built, that doesn't exactly relate to how far you've progressed in the game.

Moderators chose monster masters to help in the beginner channel.

[uneven summit]

Btw how does one get a pvp role?

[clear stump]

See #information-roles-and-recruitment .

[stuck geyser]

You are entitled to your opinion but doesn't feel fair to restrict people from helping other people based on what you've shared and that in itself is my own opinion. 👍🏾

[uneven summit]

Ive posted it and no role was given... Even when i asked for it lol

[weary plank]

Honestly if gameplay-help was available to everyone that isn't Roleless it wouldn't be good

[clear stump]

As a pupil you aren't granted access to #ml-gameplay-help to become a teacher. If you wish to be a teacher, then apply when the next Monster Master applications open up.

[weary plank]

It's fine as it is, I also liked helping others in the channel but I can't do it anymore since I had to switch roles.

[clear stump]

Ensure you've read #information-roles-and-recruitment properly, you must post the correct content, and you must wait some hours for it.

[signal lance]

DC and ML are not the same thing. For all we know DC uses less space entirely than ML

[weary plank]

DC does have quite a few more playable characters than ML

[slim sedge]

I think the creators of the game know what they're talking about when they say that there wouldn't be enough space

[stuck geyser]

That's what I'll have to to do but at the same token pupils are laterally helping pupil and I don't see much of a stink about it. Ill remove my suggestion though.

[clear stump]

It's often a case of a question being answered before we get the opportunityto

I appreciate the concern but when you can apply for MM I advise you do so

[stuck geyser]

It's not a concern but a desire to help the next generation of players. As I mentioned that's what I'll have to do - apply for MM when I can.

I respect not everyone has that desire or inclination, it's all good.

[versed walrus]

Exclusive book has all the YouTubers lol

[karmic fable]

There's a YouTuber island once in a while

[rain spire]

@hazy silo have you heard of Exclusive Book and Creators Island

[hazy silo]

Stop bullying me

[rain spire]

also self upvote

double L

[rain spire]

@karmic fable respond to ideas here

[karmic fable]

Like you havent self upvoted before

We have all self upvoted at one point im sure of it

[rain spire]

i think never self upvote in #general-feedback

but i did in #ideas-voting

[karmic fable]

That counts

[signal lance]

@uncut crater SP doesn't control Monsterwood

[uncut crater]

figured

[karmic fable]

When the google personalised ads momen

[karmic fable]

Uh

Those pop up ads are for f2ps only

Sp confirmed that you need to make an ingame purchase for them to be gone

[grand haven]

where did they confirm it

[karmic fable]

Hold on

[grand haven]

so it's just a hidden feature

[karmic fable]

Yes

[grand haven]

classic.

[foggy axle]

“abusive emails”

[versed walrus]

Bruh what

Global chat is horrible

[rain spire]

@runic gorge

bruh

i woke from being pinged to seeing your idea

here take this moyai 🗿

for asking to bring back such a horrible game feature

[gilded eagle]

How to get ads

[karmic fable]

@runic gorge your idea sucks, why the hell would anyone want a chat that was essentially 90% hate, harrassment etc to come back

This server literally does global chats job but better

It actually has moderation so there arent dumb 10 year olds spurting out slurs, harrassing people or just being idiots in general unlike global chat

Actually maybe minus the idiot part :trol:

[grand haven]

ture

[karmic fable]

Don't think so, i never had them even before I was p2p

Or at least some people just never get them even if they're f2p

[grand haven]

probably because you paid before the ads existed

or that it apparently hadnt been rolled out in your location

[karmic fable]

I have friends that get them regularly but I never did

When we're they implemented tho?

[grand haven]

a few months ago

was when it was everywhere

[karmic fable]

" please be constructive with your language" did you get an ad and just went to message sp and insulted them lmao??

[grand haven]

it's someone else's screenshot

[karmic fable]

I mean does any type of transacrion make them dissappear?

Because I remember in 2017 or 2018 i spent like 5 dollars on maze coins to get a limited path monster

[grand haven]

probably any spending counts

[wicked bluff]

Pretty sure that any transactions done in the game will get the ads away

[rain spire]

@sweet tide i highly doubt metros in era shop would do anything good

bruh

you mean p2w

or those who waste money

[clear lagoon]

there is literally metro cells in the cell shop

[rain spire]

who exactly

because it sounds useless and im not into that idea

and again

a waste of money

that doesnt make sense

a lot of metros are outdated

@slim sedge

i think we got another stupid one

mmm yes worst era had a huge step

i dont see any comments people saying they want metros in era shop

what…

show me

plus Metros are in cells shop at random occurrence

and you dont need money to waste on them

[grand haven]

I don't think the collective whales of the game would buy every single era shop egg

and also the last pic have slurs in them too

[rain spire]

and again, a waste of money for people to buy

[slim sedge]

we do

sp letting us spend more money isn't a good idea

also whaling on ml doesn't make you good

[rain spire]

youre saying we are bad because people like you spend money

[slim sedge]

[rain spire]

how are you not broke

[grand haven]

man half of the screenshots have swear words on them lmao

[slim sedge]

imagine wasting your money on a mobile game

[rain spire]

so you want us to waste ACTUAL money

[slim sedge]

if I hired someone and found out that all their money was going into a mobile game I'd fire them on the spot tbh

[rain spire]

when Cell Shop we can get 20 cells for 35 gems

[slim sedge]

anyway, features that only benefit p2w players are bad

but of course the whales wont be able to see that

f2p players are suffering as is with Serpentex and King Atum being released

there doesn't need to be a bigger gap

[grand haven]

[rain spire]

said the guy who wants people to waste money on metros which are already easy to get that doesnt require money

they kinda do for f2p

[slim sedge]

ml is p2w yes

[rain spire]

bh

[grand haven]

if the game is designed for p2w then why don't they just make the game paid

[slim sedge]

but they do sometimes do things for f2p

also, f2p players make up a big part of the playerbase

exactly

so why would they drive away f2p players who watch ads

[rain spire]

dont got any pop us ads and im f2p

[slim sedge]

ok

but if the f2p players stop playing

then they won't be watching the ads

[rain spire]

THATS A WASTE OF MONEY FOR PEOPLE

[grand haven]

just stop

[slim sedge]

also there are far too many issues with this game for sp to waste their time making a metro era shop

[rain spire]

cell shop had the cell week where people can get metros for gems

[slim sedge]

well it was established when the mythic era happened sort of

idk I'd say mine is decent

I'd rather die than apply to FC

[grand haven]

this guy is one of the people that think that spending money on a mobile game makes them superior to everyone else and that they are god at the game

[slim sedge]

I got better things to do than waste time and money on a mobile game

[rain spire]

plus we have Isabelle and Code Reaper in our team

[grand haven]

best to ignore

[slim sedge]

true

better account doesn't = better person

as we can see here

[grand haven]

everyone with a brain would also agree that it's not a wise choice to spend a lot of money on a mobile game

[rain spire]

it is

my feelings hurt

[slim sedge]

anyway back to the idea: bad idea, 0/10, sp shouldn't waste their time on it, they should instead be spending time fixing the bugs and adding the features people actually want into the game

[rain spire]

this dude is like those “bring back global chat” people but more horrible to argue

[slim sedge]

they won't, so why do p2w need more of an advantage

[rain spire]

should i ping isabelle

[grand haven]

do you really think around 200 whales make up the entire game?

[slim sedge]

anyway, I'll stop arguing against you here, clearly you can't understand that your idea isn't a good one

[grand haven]

if they're worth more than you'd think they would lock everything behind a paywall by now no?

Of course, BH FKs were always good, Golden Pass monsters were always good, every single event you can't obtain a monster that's more than r0

there have been

ZERO

[rain spire]

i dont waste money but there would be an event soon where hes free

[slim sedge]

maybe that'll get this pointless argument to cease

[grand haven]

exceptions to this

definitely

lmao frankly I could care less about p2ws, it's only when they flex how much they're spending that it's funny

[slim sedge]

@clear stump can you shut this guy up

[rain spire]

already told him

[slim sedge]

just stop replying to him

there's no point

oh zamn

[grand haven]

there is a point

it's funny

[slim sedge]

[rain spire]

expecting a roleless for him soon for straight up not being a good guy to the server

dynoed

lol

@languid pike i believe thats an over suggested idea

also skill issue

get ofa stolened

[slim sedge]

oversuggested idea but a good one

[languid pike]

Yea coz it would be very useful lol

[grand haven]

it's a good suggestion

[rain spire]

its good

[grand haven]

unlike the argument we had

[languid pike]

I mean idc abt getting my ofa stolen

But

[grand haven]

but yea it's oversuggested, so it's gonna get deleted nonetheless

[languid pike]

I got accused of stealing ofa like 3 times alrdy

[slim sedge]

true

[rain spire]

i love to have it but it aint allowed on the #submit-ideas

[slim sedge]

zamn

[languid pike]

And I didnt even increase in pts :/

[slim sedge]

what team are you in

might be a good time to get out and go elsewhere

[languid pike]

Yea i will leave prolly

After the race

[slim sedge]

make sure you do it before halfway point

so they can't kick you for stealing ofa

[languid pike]

Yea but I hv proof i didnt steal ofa I take an ss of my pts every node

[rain spire]

its funny that Luke said that people “agree” with his “idea” when only 3 people upvote

and self upvote consider how people wanted it so bad

[hardy holly]

uh ... puts p2p mons in bh at the same time , meta f2p mons idk

[karmic fable]

Wut happen

[rain spire]

i think you should leave while hes active

[karmic fable]

[slim sedge]

inflating the upvote count doesn't count

[grand haven]

are we still talking about this?

[slim sedge]

some wert thinks he's better than us because he spends money on a mobile game

[karmic fable]

🗿

[hardy holly]

ah so even weakest mons are meta at r5 i see

[slim sedge]

just block and ignore him

[karmic fable]

Oh cool

[rain spire]

dude saying we’re bad because we’re f2p, brags about people want Metro Era Shop, believes people would be good if we waste money on monsters

[karmic fable]

I agree with that

[rain spire]

all around a complete rich moron

[grand haven]

I'll allow you because you are a Kirby fan

[karmic fable]

Rank does make a momster meta bruh

Its the stats, traits and moves

🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿

[hardy holly]

yeah but a rank 0 can be bringed to higher ranks with effort

[rain spire]

i disallowed you because you a blue ball and not kirby

[karmic fable]

Wdym

Im better than kirby

Im gooey

Literally dark matter

Bozo

No, it doesnt

It doesnt make it meta because its r5

It makes it meta if it has a good moveset

A good trait

And good stats

[rain spire]

so basically Magus at R5 means shes meta

[karmic fable]

A monster being r5 has absolutely nothing to do with making a monster meta

Ok and

Cope harder

Bozo

[rain spire]

you just said that

[hardy holly]

so it doesnt mean it cant be ranked up

[karmic fable]

Yes

Probably

[rain spire]

.

[karmic fable]

I think

No i completely understood

[rain spire]

more like you cant understand

[karmic fable]

I understand

That you are an idiot

[grand haven]

can we just drop the argument, the guy made a dumb feedback and tried to excuse it with dumber reasoning

[karmic fable]

God dammit

Weong delete

[rain spire]

change Luke’s role to “Unprofessional”

instead of Professional

[slim sedge]

change his role to "Muted" and "Roleless"

[grand haven]

it's only dumb to people who touch grass and take showers

[karmic fable]

Im not even f2p bozo

[rain spire]

so youre saying all f2p players are dumb

[karmic fable]

You look like an idiot to both p2w and f2p players my guy

[rain spire]

wasting money?

[karmic fable]

🗿

[rain spire]

skill issue

[karmic fable]

Not if i find fun out of it

No they arent

🗿 🗿 🗿

Quit being a bloody hypocrite

[grand haven]

denial, damn

literally the same thing you posted minutes ago 🗿

[karmic fable]

When the image spam

[slim sedge]

cool, two of us have dropped this so far, just need the other two to do the same

[karmic fable]

Whos the other 2

[slim sedge]

you and sentri

[karmic fable]

No

Im not

Im just here

Cause i can be

[rain spire]

nahh i dropped

[karmic fable]

[grand haven]

Spag is gub

he allowed

[karmic fable]

GUP!!!!!!!

[rain spire]

now lets continue to yell at Luke for being telling us we’re wrong because hes p2w

[karmic fable]

True

Lets just let him continue to mald and cope harder

[rain spire]

dang is isa still sleeping

[slim sedge]

meanwhile we can touch grass and talk to people

[karmic fable]

You havent

I wouldnt be talking if i were you

[rain spire]

either did you

[hardy holly]

facts abt what agn

[slim sedge]

don't worry about it

he's not worth listening to

[rain spire]

and i wouldnt go out there insulting f2p and saying we’re bad if i was him

[karmic fable]

That aint no facts

[rain spire]

that arent facts

[karmic fable]

Wdym you guys are bad if you arent p2w

[slim sedge]

guys, leave him to cope and mald in his parents basement, let's go touch grass

[grand haven]

and take showers too!

[slim sedge]

he's probably got some league of legends to play after this

[karmic fable]

All you have provided is multiple people saying "metro era shop when"

Shut

[rain spire]

and drink clorax

[slim sedge]

already have

[grand haven]

I'll do it in a minute

[karmic fable]

Cause people are going to totally use it

[rain spire]

its 7:40 am

[weary plank]

Maybe Alie wasn't too bad

[clear stump]

I love race time.

Always a wave of ideas about seeing who did tasks who didn't, etc

[humble summit]

I am amazingly amazing

[weary plank]

Maybe

[sudden bison]

im a little confused confused on the camera shake feedback, isnt it just the monster that shakes?

[karmic fable]

there*

[rain spire]

@gilded eagle i think that would be more fitting for #general-feedback than in submit idea

[gilded eagle]

O ok

[uncut crater]

auto completing rusd would be great, but how would it determine how far you get?

cause I don't think it's fair everyone can auto complete all 20 nodes when they can't normally do that manually? how would it work?

[karmic flame]

I would assume it would just be the equivalent of auto on every node

[slim sedge]

latest feedback is very pro

[rain spire]

well of course because its Coldie

[slim sedge]

true

[humble summit]

Thanks

[rain spire]

@remote turret over suggested/banned idea

[remote turret]

Better?

Oh it's banned

[karmic fable]

@exotic echo p2w never got ads tho?

[exotic echo]

what

ive heard that like p2w people get little to no pop up ads

someone said it in gen feedback

[karmic fable]

P2p or P2ws get no pop up ads

They're only for f2ps

[exotic echo]

so yeah

[rain spire]

im f2p and i never got ads

[exotic echo]

thats my point

[karmic fable]

F2ps need to make an ingame purchase to remove them

[exotic echo]

i used to get them a lot

now i barely get them

[rain spire]

where do they purchase it

[karmic fable]

Any purchase can remove them i believe

[exotic echo]

thats donkey mov

move

[rain spire]

so like buying a gold pass removes ads?

[exotic echo]

yeah

[karmic fable]

Yes

[rain spire]

laughs in buying igoribuki for 8 dollars

[karmic fable]

It's a hidden feature

[exotic echo]

i bought baroness for like 3 dollars 2 years ago

im protected

[uncut crater]

jafe cutie

[versed walrus]

@rain spire How you give check mark a second after I post a message that takes like a minute to read loll

[rain spire]

but i dont WANNA

[versed walrus]

lol

[versed walrus]

?

[uncut crater]

nothing Xd

🤫

[sudden vector]

🤦🏾 that’s gone beyond sus…

Btw I just suggested being able to store monster eggs crafted in the lab instead of them jumping right into the hatchery. So it’s up to the user to decide when to hatch. Does that sound good?

[rain spire]

congratulations you wasted your time making an over suggested/banned idea

[rustic glen]

Funny how it says you can find it in storage but cannot actually put it there

[sudden vector]

Exactly bro 😭

It even has the storage box icon there and everything…

Ok how about this suggestion- reworks of the 9 basic ‘common’ monsters (Treezard, Firesaur, etc.) where they are given Mythic ranks and look like gods

Kinda like Divine Beasts of the Elements or like Primordial God Monsters or something

[signal lance]

That goes in Monster Ideas

[sudden vector]

Yeah just making sure it ain’t banned XD

[versed walrus]

Why are people downvoting my appreciation post

[weary plank]

Because your feedback wasn't

Fix everything and Make the game great again....

(Got 47 upvotes and 3 downvotes)

[versed walrus]

lol

[karmic fable]

Because in this discord, if you appreciate sp = you're choosing death

[slim sedge]

zamn spag made a true feedback

[karmic fable]

What the hell is up with that

Dunno why but for some reason my last couple of suggestions were somehow good

[grand haven]

latest feedback is something

[rain spire]

also self upvote

[karmic fable]

U don't like it?

[grand haven]

mostly the fact that you just copied KBA Leader word for word and self upvoted

and also KBA Leader's paragraph has like 25 grammatical and spelling errors

[clear stump]

Not to mention XD everywhere.

[hollow nova]

Is it something we can do anything about? Like it’s super annoying but idk if it warrants any action

[hollow nova]

actual factual

i miss being able to know what the combos for breeds were before they started

[clear stump]

The constant XD? Probably not

[karmic fable]

I copy pasted it so maybe he realises just how dumb it looks

[versed walrus]

And then it just made you look more dumb

[karmic fable]

Probably so, still find it funny

[hollow nova]

shame

[rain spire]

it was never funny in the first place and i dont know why in god make that “joke” by copying and pasted and it felt more like an embarrassing or a not so smart decision to make

also self upvote, double L

[karmic fable]

It's not that deep, seethe

[jade sparrow]

I have no clue what I’m reading from your suggestion

[clear stump]

Dungegon

[hollow nova]

?

[rain spire]

look closely

[hollow nova]

Oh didn’t notice that

[uncut crater]

Lmao,dungegon

[radiant fox]

Speaking of dungeons... How many of u feel the RUSDs should ease up a bit with same rewards?

[rain spire]

i think the current RUSD is better that way

[uncut crater]

Yup

[rain spire]

except Stamina Removal Relics

they should remove that

damn monsters spamming them a lot

[uncut crater]

That is a pain

[versed walrus]

Yea

[radiant fox]

Too many tanks in the Blossom one too

Paired with Posidonia, they can be a huge nuisance

[slim sedge]

just add "Don't be annoying" to the rules

[clear stump]

Dont go to an unnamed server, where we take the mick out of someone who put 🍷at the end of every message and replaced all S with 5. 5ounded 5illy. 🍷

[orchid lodge]

Don't be self-aware, like the loser JustaWallnut over there

[rain spire]

what are yall talking about?

[orchid lodge]

Don't don't read

[rain spire]

alright i dont dont read the convo then

[clear stump]

MC, it was in #submit-ideas within last few months

It's a sad day for the people like me who tend to keep the random nicknames but que sera sera

[hollow nova]

oh was it

kek

[grand haven]

time to post another long feedback about the new changes

[clear stump]

Yeah for sure lol

[grand haven]

[hollow nova]

i just worry that they misinterpreted it, i like the random nicknames

[clear stump]

Not only that but...

The announcement is gonna be on all social media for ML, and they will have considered feedback from all sources

Twitter dms, Instagram comments, Facebook comments, forum posts etcetc

[hollow nova]

L for me then

[clear stump]

Haha

[hollow nova]

isa making me look proper silly rn

[uncut crater]

Neuro and isa typing in feedback

[hollow nova]

QOL = quality of life?

nvm google says yes

[clear stump]

Haha

[hollow nova]

i'm having a bit of a stinker rn

[grand haven]

hehe long feedback go brr

well not that long

[rain spire]

like how Callsaul downvotes Isa and MC’s feedbacks but not Dead Chat’s

[grand haven]

His opinion is the same as mine I imagine, good changes that's even though minute overall, is still a decent shift towards the good of the game

[rain spire]

guess Piper’s idea came true

[cobalt horizon]

I keep default names too, Rusty is my Timerion. My only problem was that in rank up menu it only shows names, not monster names, even when selected.

[karmic fable]

yea , so?

sp doesnt deserve so many positive feedbacks for such small changes when there are things that players have been asking for months and they dont do them

[rain spire]

i dont care for the names not being default automatically but the addition of allowing to make it default is a neat feature for those who wants to keep it default without needing to change it manually

[grand haven]

eh it should still be acknowledged

good changes are still good changes

it encourages them to know that they're going the right way and should keep pushing towards that direction

[weary plank]

At least it shows SP does listen to us

[hushed meadow]

Was I pinged?

[rain spire]

only at few occasions

[grand haven]

somewhat listens

[clear stump]

I have to commend a good change, given its probably hard as all hell to implement them without being scrutinised, or to implement them at all, and if we only ever complain then nothing good will ever arise. I know complimenting small changes might seeming you're following a carrot on a stick, especially given extensive track records... can still commend smaller general changes

[grand haven]

but if they make good things happen I won't complain

[rain spire]

SP is that ‘i’ll listen if i want to’ company

[grand haven]

I'm just being honest about my thoughts here

I'll acknowledge when it's good but that doesn't mean I believe SP changed for the better

[rain spire]

yeah

all in all, despite my dishonest view on SP, this update is actually good unlike others

[clear stump]

Communication slowly improving here and there, can only hope rate of bugfixes improves too

[grand haven]

While I don't think all bugs can be fixed, I hope most can

especially ones that existed for over a year now

but of course there are still other glaring problems than just bugs

[clear stump]

Catsume, DC is celebrating heir 10th anniversary
I'm sure if/when ML has a 10th anniversary it will go great

[uncut crater]

Whens that?

This year or next year?

[clear stump]

MLs 10th birthday is year after next.

[slim sedge]

@hushed leaf that already exists

only pupils can see that channel though

[hushed leaf]

oh...ok, did not know that, cause I had a friend asking me about that if there is one.

[clear stump]

Tell them to get pupil role and they will gain access

[clear stump]

@short frost which channel are you referring to? I also don't see how that's an idea

[short frost]

I was just referring to a channel idea someone else had

[clear stump]

If you're responding to an idea, you do that here please

Thought you were talking about #ml-gameplay-help haha

[short frost]

aight

[rain spire]

@karmic fable bruh

what the hell is this

[slim sedge]

masky trolling?

[wooden thunder]

i feel like he isn't

like lvl 200 oh no that won't end well

i mean sure the monster in surive dungens are very over level but srs?

[karmic fable]

Yeah

Just giving idea

[slim sedge]

well

[wooden thunder]

don't ask for the level cap going yp

[karmic fable]

To make people suffer more

[slim sedge]

considering what they've said in #players-chat and other channels

[wooden thunder]

its like a really bad idea

[slim sedge]

who do they think they are, Hypno?

[karmic fable]

But i wanna see people suffer more

[rain spire]

@full sandal bruh

why are you like this

[full sandal]

Like what

[rain spire]

look are your damn idea

[slim sedge]

starting to think that isa needs to get out the "Ideas Channels - Muted" role again

[full sandal]

Oh LOL

I just submit some random ideas

It is what it is

LMAOO

[clear stump]

A bit far

Not a good joke to make on here either

Best to remove both

[rain spire]

fine

[slim sedge]

ok

[uncut crater]

spaghoot

you dont just breed em?

i just activate 80% and breed em all at once (3 or 2 seconds per breed) then extract them all at once

basically breed 100 at once then extract em all at once, and then repeat

while watching youtube cause i have life

[grand haven]

Deals low meal damage
protein hurt

[versed walrus]

lol

[slim sedge]

@noble swift oversuggested idea

[karmic fable]

Dude do you realise how long that takes when you add up the amount of seconds for both breeding and hatching

And plus

The whole point of the bulk buying idea is so you can buy the common eggs quicker, resulting in way faster prep

Would most likely end up saving a couple minutes which is quite a lot

[small haven]

More like an hour

[karmic fable]

No its a couple minutes

Its like 4 - 5 seconds to buy an egg i believe

So it would save about 460 seconds max (calcs based on 40 laps amount of firesaur eggs needed for cells)

[rain spire]

no its 0.1 second

[slim sedge]

the option to buy multiple eggs would be better than not having the option to buy multiple eggs

[karmic fable]

Yes

Simple as that

[slim sedge]

macro user

[karmic fable]

[exotic echo]

I cant delete the messege?

I used the wrong format thing

Forgot it was a dot

My bad

[lean kelp]

@keen flax Forge Labs also has Toxins

[keen flax]

oh I haven’t leveled him up yet and didn’t know

ty

[rain spire]

heh

[clear stump]

Neither #players-chat or here are the correct channel for that.

Bugs go to #bugs-reporting .
Feedback goes to #general-feedback

[jovial lynx]

Ahhh shoot...Please Point Me in the right...Ok Kool...Thanks Again Isabelle...XD

[rain spire]

@half widget Sandstorm Torture exists

[signal lance]

Also there is a reason why Immunity to Pierce and Anti doesn't exist

If Pierce immune becomes META then Pierce monsters die which would evidently make the Pierce immune buff useless since the one thing it blocks isn't even used anymore and the same thing will happen with Immune to Anti

[rain spire]

@jovial lynx respond to ideas here

[half widget]

Yea but I want a defensive status effect for immune to pierce. It could bring some new interesting monsters

[signal lance]

@half widget Refer to this

It would be a never-ending loop

Also The new thing you posted goes to #bugs-reporting

@karmic fable That goes to #monster-ideas

[orchid lodge]

Megataunt <- Pierce <- Blocks Pierce <- Blocks blockage of Pierce ....

Direct counters of counters aren't a good idea

[rain spire]

sweats in making Shadow Trait that is immune to Pierce

but yeah, a trait Immune to Pierce would be meta-breaking

best to let Sandstorm be a pierce blocker

[orchid lodge]

which mind you is pretty useless

[rain spire]

i mean hey, at least Serp or Spekthra wont do much about it until the effect ends

[signal lance]

Well not Serp

Serp has perma Pierce

[rain spire]

sandstorm blocks pierce

which im referring to that both trait and effect wont work

[signal lance]

No it only blocks the effect

[rain spire]

god damn it

[uncut crater]

getting the r1 legendary for being first place makes more sense, 2-5 can get r0 legendary. Obviously, you get the cells Aswell.

[versed walrus]

Yea

[foggy axle]

My feedback is supposed to start with “What if” btw lol

and the “had” in the example should be “has” 🤦‍♂️

[grand haven]

#submit-ideas kinda werted ngl

[slim sedge]

if Sandstorm blocked pierce, trait or otherwise, it would be good tbh

[radiant fox]

Something really should be done about Pierce

Cupid was annoying enough, having to time his death exactly at the right time, which is complicated more often than not by Bulwark... And now we have Serpentrex...

Add in Seven Sins in the mix, and I'd just walk away from the match

[slim sedge]

sp be like: sandstorm

[radiant fox]

If Sandstorm blocked the trait, it'd be alright... Unfortunately it doesn't, so...

[slim sedge]

facts

[radiant fox]

Besides, let's face it... By the time Atum gets his turn, there probably won't be any need for Sandstorm 😂

He'll probably be the last one standing, to be taken out at leisure

[slim sedge]

yeah the only actual pierce counter currently is shadowyna

[clear lagoon]

mega invasion 🤔

[signal lance]

The question now becomes how does one counter pierce without invalidating pierce or making a never ending loop?

I've already explained why Pierce Immune is a bad idea since it just creates a never-ending loop

[clear lagoon]

mega damage protection: pierce does 50% less damage

thats how to counter it

[fossil relic]

Just clearly close

[signal lance]

The problem being thats exactly what happened with regular damage prot back then and it didn't stop Pierce

It slowed it down but not stop it

[fossil relic]

Basically Peirce is op

[signal lance]

The worse part being most Pierce teams have a buffer that can just mitigate that damage prot or just outright remove it

Also about Mega Invasion... What?

Like I am trying to read it and it makes absolutely no sense

[clear lagoon]

mega invasion sounds like PEP that last 3 turns 🤔

[signal lance]

Which coincidentally is how long regular PEP last

[clear lagoon]

that cant be PER

[fossil relic]

But this is a status caster or skill

[signal lance]

Wait so Mega Invasion is just PEP?

[fossil relic]

Yes

[clear lagoon]

i think he means mega evasion?

nvm

[fossil relic]

Just a mega version

[signal lance]

Ah yes let me just pair up my attacker with Mega invasion, Evasion, and Damage boost what could go wrong?...

Or better yet lets give this Taunt/MT tank Mega Invasion and Evasion...

You see the problems with it?

[fossil relic]

Oh i get it i am wrong how silly am i

[slim sedge]

what's invasion

[clear lagoon]

🛸

[signal lance]

Essentially PEP that can't be PER'd and can't be pierced

[fossil relic]

And these just pop out in my head

[slim sedge]

zamn someone hates pierce

[signal lance]

I think the funny part being Pierce by itself isn't OP its the skills that make it OP

Like look at Teddywave and Execumancer for example those guys are completely useless despite having Perma Pierce

[fossil relic]

Basically pierce is usless when you dont know how to use it

[slim sedge]

well

it's useless when the skills are bad

[grand haven]

Mega invasion

alien era confirmed?? 😱

[slim sedge]

I mean

maybe another era where monsters come from other planets could be a thing

[grand haven]

elektra moment

[slim sedge]

and then titan invasion could also be brought back

[slim sedge]

but like

lots of other planets

[grand haven]

abomination dimension

[slim sedge]

so they aren't limited with elements