ideas-feedback-discussion

[rain spire]

what?

[karmic lance]

@rain spire

That what I mean so should make cosmic survival dungeon

[rain spire]

hm

[karmic lance]

Example if they do it will be much easier to rank the comics

[rain spire]

so, basically a cosmic rank up dungeon, thats probably an over suggested idea

[karmic lance]

Yes

[grand haven]

question, have you checked #announcements

at all during the past week when they announced the new era

[karmic flame]

With the new era announcement they said there would be a rank up survival dungeon for every era

[karmic lance]

I hope 😍

[clear stump]

Thats what they announced. So it should happen.

[dapper oyster]

now we just need to see how disappointed we are with how many cells they give

[clear stump]

I can only hope they are a close of the existing dungeons.

Of course, with the "adjustment" for the shorter dungeons. Que sera sera

[dapper oyster]

don't see why we can't have shorter dungeons for the same amount

[clear stump]

Neither do I
But.. I genuinely see it being up to the 10th node of Doomsday RUSD for prev eras

[dapper oyster]

giving 300 i hope

at least

but even with the full amount, it's still 2 years to R5 everyone, and you have to be able to clear it without finishing a node using R5s

[lean kelp]

They said the dungeons will be shorter with proportional rewards to the shorter length, so hopefully not that low each node

Either way it's a step up compared to 0 cells daily for the old generations

[dapper oyster]

they word stuff weird some times, i have some glimmer of hope that they meant they'd reportion the full amount across the smaller amount of nodes

as a way of saying "don't worry, even though it's 10 nodes, it's not going to have the same rewards as the first 10 nodes of the current RUSDs. we'll adjust it to be right"

but when has that ever happened that we get something good

[humble cairn]

There’s a lot of stuff I wish they’d bring back

Like Titan dungeons for example

[dapper oyster]

titan dungeons weren't that great

[humble cairn]

There were also those team war Titan battles a few years back that I enjoyed

[dapper oyster]

in my opinion of course

i loved the gauntlet, before they added cosmics to it

[humble cairn]

It was a great way to gain cells

[dapper oyster]

titan dungeons were a boring way to gain cells

[humble cairn]

I feel like the current way is boring

[dapper oyster]

life runes on a healer, possessing wildbird, or dodge area on the other one

[humble cairn]

It’s repetitive

[dapper oyster]

you need some strategy to complete the RUSDs

I just wish they'd stop tuning it for R5s when it's for ranking the monsters you take in

[humble cairn]

In Bounty hunts I wish you able to control your monsters instead of the AI

Because the AI is dumb as dirt

[dapper oyster]

but then you have to consider the fugitive's health

do all the other participants have to wait for your battle to end?

[humble cairn]

No

[dapper oyster]

or do you just sit in a fight and wait for it to live update to a point where you can kill it in one hit

[humble cairn]

The Fugitive is basically unkillable anyhow

[dapper oyster]

predetermined damage is how they make it a team

[dapper oyster]

i've killed many

i do wish we could have an AI screen similar to the one Raid added, where you can tell the move order, preferably with a target - but then you'll still fall short when mega frozen, trait disabled, etc

you'd need something far more complex like in the idle game

[orchid lodge]

fugitive can be killed
my problem is being forced in higher leagues

[grand haven]

yes this

[dapper oyster]

the ai setup in clicker heroes 2

sorry, took me a while to find the game in steam

[signal lance]

@sleek geyser SP has no control over task. And thats an apple problem meaning SP has no control over it

[weary plank]

Yeah Apple doesn't approve of that

[radiant fox]

Say Isa, I'm sure u're allowed to talk to the Devs directly... Since I'm pretty sure nothing short of a mass riot in the server gets their attention, could u be so kind as to ask into the Bionic TL book issue?

I was really hoping to get those rewards, but if they insist that the inconsistent timeline was no "accident", maybe I'll think twice about putting in effort for future TL Books

[grand haven]

I don't think they can talk to the devs directly, technically they're still players with muting powers, plus if they were able to then they would've reported these issues directly already

[radiant fox]

Still worth a try I guess

[rain spire]

i forgor to add “design” after “island” in my feedback 💀

[clear stump]

Hi, I don't talk to the devs directly. I'm really not much more than a server volunteer per se. If I could prioritise the Bionic book issue, I would, but even if they were to bring it back for the regular duration, it would've ended by now.

Think the new dungeons have turned out better than I thought they would've. 375 Cells and 40 of rank up resource over fifteen nodes isn't bad at all.

[dapper oyster]

yes, i'm happy with that

[true jay]

I could be misremembering, but I think it had an additional day left.

[final flint]

very true

[grand haven]

maybe it's just me but I like the death texts

it's funny

also new animations are pog

[clear stump]

OK not a fan of it at all.

Looks very jumpy. The puff of clouds was always cool, it was smooth etc. But the flames are there one frame and not the next. The massive DISINTEGRATED is just beyond unnecessary. Feels very "clickbait ads" game, for lack of a better expression. Trying to cope with it but... ew

[radiant fox]

Ok thanks for clarifying Isa. On a side note, I simply fail to understand the utility of having SP reps here, particularly Devs, if they're so reluctant in communicating with the playerbase, or responding to legit feedback. Support gives mostly generic replies, so, I'd really like to know if we're just expected to, er, "suck it up" in case of complaints or grievances

[clear stump]

I do believe it's more "higher ups have control", an individual dev can't fix XYZ just because you, me or they want it fixed. That seems to be how it goes. Remembering TakeTwo exists as well.

But yeah. I do understand

[radiant fox]

All I would've liked was an answer: whether the offering of monsters in a particular TL Book AFTER it had expired was intended, or not and if not, if the book was going to be extended

Like I said before, short of a mass riot, nobody can be bothered to show up here on Discord, which, if memory serves, was supposed to make Devs and SP more... approachable

Back when Fox used to be the manager, atleast I'd hear back something or the other, but now... I'd better not speak anymore

[clear stump]

Lol, bite your tongue 😅🤣

[radiant fox]

Mistakes can happen, I understand that, but being silent about it and going about as if everything's fine, or not bothering to read through player feedback etc is not very professional

[clear stump]

But i actually do agree

Player feedback is obviously taken into account, actions speak louder than words. But words aren't spoken whatsoever.

[radiant fox]

Well, I'll put my trust in ur word that feedback is heard, but only because I hear from u every so often 😂

[grand haven]

they changed effect icons?

[rain spire]

yep

[grand haven]

oh come on

how does that even signify ITC

the old ones had the chains broken

[rain spire]

look at the new Taunt Trait

its worse

[grand haven]

nah taunt trait is somehow unharmed

taunt effect however

[rain spire]

oh yeah the effect

trait is ok but the effect is so dumb

[grand haven]

duality of man

[rain spire]

kek

[lean kelp]

Am I the only one that doesnt mind the damage text change

The new trait icons are extremely ugly tho

[rain spire]

youre not alone

i like the trait icons but as always, the Taunt Effect design is so bad

[lean kelp]

I checked through pretty much every trait and effect and genuinely cannot find a single one I like more than the original

Maybe the Phobic shields, Haters and Stamina Regen/Leak

But the rest is a no

Anti and Shock look the same

Pierce looks ugly

[signal lance]

Honestly I prefer it

[lean kelp]

Same

[orchid lodge]

text is a little too big is all

[lean kelp]

The icons will take some getting used to

[orchid lodge]

Hardened looks stupid ngl

[lean kelp]

Hope they change some of them like Trait Disable, Postive Effects Protected/Blocked, Anticipation, Pierce all look terrible

[orchid lodge]

I mean, at least with Pierce you can tell what it’s trying to convey

[weary plank]

Catsume your feedback is wrong

Bugged is still normal!

Spirit too I think

[lean kelp]

Spirit was changed

[weary plank]

NOOO

[rain spire]

i like how the new trait designs are the things that people like and dont like

[true jay]

On the topic of the disappearing Bionic book: it would be very helpful to simply hear back from SP about what their plan is. At the moment, it sounds like there's a chance that they are doing nothing. Personally, I spent a couple hundred gems to complete the book because I need the ambrosia. I had the last monster in my hatchery when it was removed two days early, so now all of the gems and time went to waste.

On the topic of the trait symbol redesign: I don't think it's a big deal. It's just what people are used to, so we will all adjust to the new version eventually.

[lean kelp]

When your feedback is 500 words over the word limit 🗿

[orchid lodge]

When your message uses the wrong your 🗿

[lean kelp]

Noone has to know

Cant post the other part for 10 minutes 🗿

[clear stump]

@lean kelp 10 mins up

[lean kelp]

Still 2 minutes until slow mode over

Bruh

Another 10 minutes

Posted without .suggestion

[lean kelp]

I did it again

[rain spire]

did what again

[lean kelp]

.

Done it 3 times now and have to wait 10 minutes for slow mode each time

[rain spire]

zad

@wooden thunder that belongs to #general-feedback

[wooden thunder]

still a suggetion

lol

[rain spire]

thats not an idea

[wooden thunder]

it is lol

[rain spire]

🗿

bruh

[gilded eagle]

@modest dove then don't use barbatos

There's legit better attackers

🤡

[modest dove]

Barbatos Dungeon 🥴

[gilded eagle]

Then use only the true Hellfire thing

And get other monsters to carry

[modest dove]

Would take one hour for one node.

[gilded eagle]

Lack of skill then

🦧

[rain spire]

skill issue

[modest dove]

Ur mom

[signal lance]

@modest dove let me explain.
The monster damaging itself is its main gimmick. He deals a tone of damage at the cost of his/his teams life and that was the gimmick of the OG Barbatos so it will be the same as the new Barbatos. Now the AOE damage being absorbed by MT makes sense since the game considers it as an attack against all allies so MT will absorb it. Now for the 30% the game considers it as self damage meaning it won't absorb it.

[gilded eagle]

No mt + evasion

[modest dove]

But the damage is caused by ur monster and mts description says opponents attacks.

[signal lance]

Again the game considers it as an enemy attacking and the same will happen with other monsters that damage their allies like Nox or monsters that kill their allies like Fatid

[rain spire]

kawthor

[modest dove]

Seems weird to me but ok.

[modest dove]

Guess I won't use Uriel anymore, bad monster lol.

[rain spire]

Uriel the Divine?

[gilded eagle]

Why r u complaining about that then

U can heal and revive

🤦‍♂️

[rain spire]

ah yes, calling one of the more op mythics of doomsday weak

[gilded eagle]

Average ml player

🦧

[rain spire]

yes

[modest dove]

I am joking lol.

[modest dove]

I was talking about Barbatos in general.

[heady ivy]

Wait possesion?
Dang I meant to say nightmares

I am not allowed to repost the suggestion with some different text changes right?

[clear stump]

@wooden thunder I like how in your idea you go on about how people should be given a choice but don't mention on what

[orchid lodge]

same logic applies to Possession and Corruption, which is why it's generally a bad control effect vs Tanks

[wooden thunder]

the thing with the new changes to the traits and the other things

[wooden thunder]

me when:

[clear stump]

Stove already suggested that

[clear stump]

@urban roost back to having ads already? 😬

[urban roost]

Yes

[clear stump]

Oh goodness gracious

[humble cairn]

I hate how traits, effects, and damage calculations look now

[rain spire]

get use to it

[humble cairn]

It seems other people don’t like it either

They look incredibly unappealing and ugly

[rain spire]

again

get used to it

a ton of people already dislike it

but for me, i dont mind the change, except the Taunt Status Effect

[humble cairn]

They were fine beforehand

[urban roost]

yes

now theyre trash. i dont want to learn them all over again

[humble cairn]

They didn’t needed to be changed

Nobody asked for this

[urban roost]

plus the numbers are bigger than the monsters themselves

[humble cairn]

The only thing people wanted was harden and tough to be slightly changed so they can be distinguished easier

Please change it back to how they looked like or make it at least bareable to look them

[rain spire]

i doubt sp will change it

[humble cairn]

General Feedback is filled with complaints on how everyone hates how they look like

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/stepbrothers-will-ferrell-john-c-reilly-sooo-umm-gif-5780009

[humble cairn]

That’s a big deal

[rain spire]

then again, sp barely looks at general feedback

[humble cairn]

That’s a problem in itself

[rain spire]

@orchid lodge i like it

[radiant fox]

This is probably not the right place to ask, so my apologies in advance, but I noticed a possible bug in that the RU dungeon for Cosmics is not allowing me to select my lvl 140 Fampirastal. Is a similar situation happening to anyone else?

[shrewd inlet]

No one can

Witchkat too

[desert wraith]

I think it's because fampira it's from the Halloween generation, plus it's cosmic but that fact sp forgot

[shrewd inlet]

Could be because they’re Halloween monsters

[clear stump]

@orchid lodge please merge your ideas into one message as per the rules

[orchid lodge]

I never considered them as one idea so I guess I shall do so

[clear stump]

oh, sorry

misread it @orchid lodge , ignore that lol

my sincere apologies

you said that and i did an immediate doubletake 😅 😂

[orchid lodge]

pfft too late

[clear stump]

lol fairs

there'll be a way to make it into "provide special device effects for both strong and weak attacks" kinda thing

[orchid lodge]

Well I wanted to specific so

[rain spire]

Ian Dumb momen :trol:

[clear stump]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-an-idea-junkrat-over-watch-video-game-gif-17492139

?ban @rain spire

damn

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-worried-oh-no-anxious-gif-11565777

[versed walrus]

lol

[grand haven]

you've just been coconut malled

[rain spire]

shut

[keen belfry]

Just sharing my personal opinion, I think all these icon changes are a little unnecessary. It doesn’t really serve a purpose, just makes everyone have to learn what everything looks like again.

[slim sedge]

my take on the new icons is:
new players will probably be like "ooh, these are cool" and have an easy time learning them
old players now have to constantly check to see what traits and status effects everyone has now because they're too used to the old system

so clearly it's aimed at the new players that they'll probably get from Mr Beast's sponsored video

chances are it's to make them stay playing because of "all these cool effects and traits"

[radiant fox]

In my eye, the old Bulwark trait was cooler, and so was the stun effect symbol

[slim sedge]

that's because you know what it looks like

new players won't

[rain spire]

ah yes, a yellow hardened trait is better than the new bulwark

[slim sedge]

yep

[radiant fox]

Sure, but I don't think that the old Bulwark trait would have appeared as an eyesore to anyone

If anything, the new icon changes seem to have been designed to appeal to kids more than a mature playerbase

[slim sedge]

well

what do you think most of Mr Beast's audience is

[radiant fox]

I honestly have no clue who Mr Beast is 😂

[rain spire]

look at Guava Juice

[radiant fox]

But I can form a rough idea from the name...

[slim sedge]

basically a guy who uses a lot of money for videos

and his audience probably has a LOT of children in it

that would all get sucked into the game once they see the ml sponsor ad

[orchid lodge]

@carmine dawn they’re used for completing books

[foggy summit]

it may be unnecessary but i guess SP just wanted to modernize the aspects of their game

[carmine dawn]

So for bragging rights ie exactly what I said. Thanks for proving my point.

[orchid lodge]

books aren’t bragging rights

they give rewards yk

[slim sedge]

yeah

no one cares about how many books you've completed

[keen belfry]

I can understand that. Everyone will eventually get used to the new changes.

[foggy summit]

Yeah

[signal lance]

@west palm there are a problem with your idea. If the monsters Ult is terrible then the trait is essentially useless but if its anything like the Ults of today then the trait is broken

[west palm]

huh then just dont add it I just wanted some ult help in the sagas cauz I dont have many monsters from the books

[signal lance]

...

[slim sedge]

I already made a feedback about making era sagas easier

[karmic flame]

#general-feedback message - there aren't old traits / effects for some things like anticipation. My anticipation is new for example - it is just that your game may not of cached it yet so it still uses the old one for you

[orchid lodge]

thats just skill issue

[karmic flame]

Interesting they still have old icons incase new ones aren't cached. However, they seem to have removed the old mega corrupted and not added a new one yet - everyone I have tested it with experienced this

[mystic kernel]

@upbeat glade You do realize it’s impossible to read numbers if they show the full thing, lol

Being able to instantly tell “oh I did 3.7mil” is way better than having to take a perfectly timed screenshot, zoom in, and count all the digits of a number to determine a few insignificant decimal points more of damage

In terms of a closed-loop system it’s much more efficient to have 1-3% slightly less accurate data and provide quick feedback adjustment than precise data with a significantly longer response time

Worst case the damage isn’t as precise as you want and you attempt again with a different rune setup i guess? Not sure why you’d need to know your damage that precise. But at least you had a pretty accurate estimate and can adjust accordingly in a quick manner.

[orchid lodge]

big number = good chemicals
smol (letters of) numbers = unimpressive

btw I can literally miss the KO of monsters by literal thousands of health

[mystic kernel]

That’s true, but what difference will that make for you

Seeing a number like 363k will always be specific to the thousands

Plus those damage popups were impossible to read before anyways

[orchid lodge]

let’s me decide whether to apply nanovirus to a tank or just straight up killing it

[mystic kernel]

Who cares if it’s rounded slightly, you’re still doing the same damage lol

And it’ll show if the monster dies or not

Click on a skill and it shows the remaining hp of the monster

[orchid lodge]

you can’t really compare damage to health when it’s rounded yk

[mystic kernel]

Except it literally shows a preview of the remaining hp of the monster if you choose to use an attack?

[orchid lodge]

not when you’re doing to a MT tank

since that’s not calculated but rather added afterwards

[mystic kernel]

It doesn’t even show the damage value you do in the skill attack preview

So what’s the difference

[orchid lodge]

the difference is accuracy

[mystic kernel]

If I’m hitting a megataunt tank with an AoE skill it’ll only show how much I would do if the megataunt wasn’t there

[orchid lodge]

and again, I’ve missed their health by a few points before
so to make that judgement harder because you’re rounding

[mystic kernel]

Once again, no difference

[mystic kernel]

That happens regardless and is too infrequent to be an issue

[orchid lodge]

trust me it’s not as infrequent as you think

[mystic kernel]

You’re saying that when you have a specific number you type the entire thing into a calculator and multiply by 3?

[orchid lodge]

is it wrong to check whether to use Deadly Situation vs Cyclone against a Garnyxel?
To round down would be to give me wrong judgement, yes?

[mystic kernel]

Attacking and being unable to read the damage value dealt happens every attack. Especially in BH. While that happens maybe 5% of the time or less.

Which is the greater issue?

[orchid lodge]

What’s the issue with reading the exact damage while the attack is selected and the damage value is hovering hm?

[mystic kernel]

Oh, we’re talking about different things here then

I mean the damage that shows after the hit

How much you did total, not capped by the monster’s hp

[orchid lodge]

Honestly for the dopamine rush I’d rather read 3,829,122 rather than 3.8M

[mystic kernel]

It’s easier to read it after an attack and easily know how much you did, for feedback control especially in BH

[mystic kernel]

You wouldn’t be able to tell it’s 3.8M if you see those numbers, lol.

That’s the issue

[orchid lodge]

why not?

[mystic kernel]

All you see is:

3 8 2 9 1 2 2 in really cramped, small text

And it disappears too fast to read

[orchid lodge]

if you’re that concerned about damage values, you’d be gauging the resulting damage dealt total to the fugitive, not the damage individually

[mystic kernel]

Doesn’t matter. I want to be able to read the damage I am dealing.

[orchid lodge]

Then read the text that appears after the 3 rounds end.

[mystic kernel]

So you’re saying you can easily read these two damage values at a 1-second glance?

[orchid lodge]

The real problem is lack of commas, ez fix

[mystic kernel]

I shouldn’t be confined to waiting until the end to see that damage.

Or if I’m messing around in adventure map to test damage, I want to be able to read it.

There shouldn’t be a numerical value in the game that disappears too quickly to read. That significantly hinders player experience

Frankly these should be settings in-game

[orchid lodge]

ehhhh it’s pretty niche

[mystic kernel]

We have little options on GUI settings

[orchid lodge]

the game wasn’t much interactive to begin with, why need GUI settings

[mystic kernel]

So you’re saying that people shouldn’t have an option and just have to deal with your ideal solution?

Why have a numerical value that is too difficult to read? That hinders a player-friendly experience lol

[orchid lodge]

So you’re saying that SP should develop special GUI for a game where all you do is collection and tapping buttons on enemies or watching your monsters be controlled by AI

[mystic kernel]

What

What does that have to do with any of this

[orchid lodge]

i’m telling you GUI customization is unnecessary for a game that’s this simple

[mystic kernel]

Do you know what a GUI is?

It’s literally just the hp bars, skill selection panel, etc

All stuff that already exists

We should have settings for them

It’s that simple

[orchid lodge]

well no, not everything needs GUI settings

[mystic kernel]

So you’re saying players should not have the option to toggle a switch to turn on/off condensed number values?

[orchid lodge]

AI portions are out of the player’s control regardless so why would it matter to make GUI accommodations just for that one specific situation where otherwise you can just manually look at the damage values before attacking when you would already have control of your monster

not to mention, you should be looking at the moves they’re performing themselves instead of the damage they deal since news flash, it doesn’t really matter as you can just plan out how much damage they dish through manipulation of their movesets regardless

why would you need to see damage values when you can see things beforehand, like strength and attack of a particular move

[mystic kernel]

A. Because people like to see how much damage they do? The number in the skill preview shows a maximum of the monster’s life

B. Because players should have an option?? The “accommodations” already exist (in the form of condensed numbers we see right now in game). All they’d have to do would be make a toggle for it

[orchid lodge]

You’re always saying people want to see how much damage they do but never considered why that would ever matter in an environment where the monster is controlled by AI

If there’s no reason to do it, then what’s the point?

[mystic kernel]

Because it’s nice to see that number instead of 472858373858383848573???

And skillsets do have an effect on the AI.

[mystic kernel]

Because players want it, lol

I’m done with this discussion, all you’re doing is arguing against providing options to the players. This would satisfy both sides and is no way difficult to implement

[orchid lodge]

that’s not a valid reason, and not specific either
it’s only personal preference when in a place where it largely doesn’t matter, in an environment where you don’t control your monsters, in an event where you should make haste killing off the fugitive for maximum efficiency and avoid sniping

[mystic kernel]

My final comment is that companies will do things because players want it.

Ask yourself why we have OG Mythic thru Corrupted RUSD.

[orchid lodge]

it’s a waste of development time that could go better spent on other better features

[orchid lodge]

and yet your feedback is literally stating that a majority is against it

[mystic kernel]

How so? Lol

[orchid lodge]

ofc it could just be a misinterpretation of the first sentence but I can see that based on how you pinged someone, I still see that someone is discontent

it’s what i’m led to believe based on the context clues i see although i could be wrong

[mystic kernel]

It’s a switch to toggle 2 already existing things, lol

[orchid lodge]

you wouldn’t think it’d be that simple

@mystic kernel #submit-ideas

[mystic kernel]

It’s feedback on an existing feature

[orchid lodge]

it’s an idea of a new feature

[mystic kernel]

It’s feedback on an existing feature

[orchid lodge]

toggling two types of damage display is not an existing feature

[mystic kernel]

Both types of damage displays are existing features

[orchid lodge]

toggling two types of damage display is not an existing feature

[mystic kernel]

The feedback is that some people don’t like it so there should be a toggle.

[orchid lodge]

toggling two types of damage display is not an existing feature

[mystic kernel]

Too bad

[orchid lodge]

toggling two types of damage display is not an existing feature

[mystic kernel]

Skill issue

[orchid lodge]

you’re clearly not taking this seriously

[mystic kernel]

And you’re clearly taking it way too seriously.

It’s a grey area, it can go in either.

It seems more relevant as feedback since it is about a new update.

[orchid lodge]

it’s suggesting a new feature

[mystic kernel]

Clearly you have nothing better to do than argue over this

Good night

[orchid lodge]

sure dude

[orchid lodge]

Pre-Emptive Note: Start here if you plan on asking what happened here

[lean kelp]

They already plan to make all the bugged icons into the regular one considering theres already an unused icon for all of them that'll probably be implemented tomorrow

[signal lance]

@tall loom your second idea belongs in #monster-ideas

[tall loom]

thank you

[rain spire]

@karmic fable do you mean by exacting eggs once they are finished hatching

[karmic fable]

I mean when you Hatch an egg from a breeding tree.

[rain spire]

There should be an extract option when you Hatch an egg. Not just a place or sell option.

that ruins the purpose the Extract Tab in the Lab

besides, mythics can already do that if duplicates

[karmic fable]

The new monster option is place or sell. There isn't an extract option in the lab

It doesn't ruin the purpose. It helps those who want to rank up guys after breeding them to sell them. Rather than place them on the ground or in the monster vault

[final flint]

i think they mean
Obtain egg -> Storage -> Straight to Extract Tab

[rain spire]

@iron flax ideas involving more adventure maps are over suggested/banned

[iron flax]

My bad

[orchid lodge]

@crimson tiger you have two possibilities
A. Do that in #general-feedback
B. Reverting a Change Ideas are banned

[tulip river]

I hate the pop up ads, they are absolutely terrible

most of the f2p are getting it, my friend who spent more than 100$ never got pop up ads

[fading peak]

How did y’all manage to argue about the way text looks on a mobile game for that long 😂😂😂

[rain spire]

@fading peak what do you mean by “add more activities for teams” and bringing back Team Battlegrounds is over suggested/banned

[fading peak]

You have team wars and racing which is fun but there should be more, just add more gamemodes that a team can do and get rewards

Like a mode where you and your other teammates have to fight off endless waves of monsters and the further u get the higher the rewards, this is only an example its not my job to create the gamemode

[radiant fox]

I love how SP portrays free "gifts" of 50k food and 5 gems 😬

[versed walrus]

lol

[clear stump]

I mean it is free gifts, as paltry and meagre as it seems. 5 gems could be the difference between me getting Ingwe in the ongoing breed event, and 50k food could mean a newer player beats dungeons 😉

I remember back in the way old days, Food dungeon rewards weren't great but the 20k Food roulette reward was a true blessing.

[final flint]

remember when a few million food was considered a lot at the time

[clear stump]

I remember when I was struggling massively for food.

Now I'm sat here, I've had hundreds of millions since like, a year ago or more, and I can't shift it.

[signal lance]

@pale geode Both your ideas are repeats and we have multiple discussions here on why your second idea is a bad idea

[pale geode]

I was unaware of that and no it’s not

[signal lance]

Yes it is. Tell me what is stopping someone from funneling monsters to their main account? what is stopping someone from mega boosting another account?

[pale geode]

Fair I didn’t think of that. a new way to make money just have it in the payed monster pass as like a level 100 feature

[signal lance]

Again the problems that gives far out way the positives

[wicked bluff]

Poseidon’s idea is kinda fun, it encourages a much more variety of team building and adds a little bit more strategy to this game.

[pale geode]

I’m fine with not being able to give eggs to friends I just want to be able to put crafted eggs in your inventory

[vernal sand]

lol no noobdya .

[white fable]

yeah

[radiant fox]

I suppose u do have a point, Isa. Always look on the bright side, eh?

[signal lance]

There are just some slight problems I see with it since if there is a broken set of monsters in a specific book wouldn't that mean the META will revolve around that 1 group?

Like a 10% increase in stats a BIG thing to look at when making ideas and can honestly spell utter chaos since by then most teams would essentially be useless as they are out damaged and outsped

[white fable]

10% is a lot, but i think he meant only for 1 stat

[grand haven]

I don't think 10% stat boost is a big thing, IF it's a boost to base stats only

idea 2 definitely is simpler and more interesting

[white fable]

10% can mean a lot, its like 3k extra speed at level 150 with X speed runes

[grand haven]

could be rebalanced a bit, or have unique passives instead of stat boosts

for example winter monsters' attacks can have a 10% chance of freezing

[signal lance]

Even when its buffing the base stats it would still impact the runes by a noticeable margin as a 10% increase could mean you inta killing the enemy team with a simple damage boost

[white fable]

thats kinda broken with ET users

[grand haven]

I mean what meta winter monsters currently has infinite cycle ets

[signal lance]

I'm going by what is presented to me. Even I personally think an increase of 5% is pushing it

[white fable]

true

then dont include era books, problem solved

[grand haven]

a lot can be done honestly: dragons book receive 25% less damage, spirits book have precision, winged book has a 5% to dodge an attack

hell even souls lair can get a 1% chance to revive with 1-turn Death CD :trol:

[white fable]

yeah, and i dont think it will be too meta breaking since for most books theres only like 1 or 2 meta monsters

[grand haven]

Y'know what this is such a good idea that I'm going to #monster-ideas and make concepts for all of these

see ya

[signal lance]

I'll need to take a look at all the books tomorrow to get more info on this because it is a good idea

[clear stump]

All of them were suggested before now

Thesot suggested the books buff a while back

[white fable]

:pandalftroll:

[clear stump]

"Give team buffs for monsters who are in the same books"

Not only that but 1 idea per message

[final flint]

rip

thats why it was deleted then

[clear stump]

^

Turn pings off please.

[final flint]

new ideas to vote when

[clear stump]

No, read above, thesot already suggested a buff to the tram when multiple monsters are in the same book

Think "synergy" was also another thing
Edit, never mind

It's still "give ally buffs when multiple monsters share same book"

Im not saying its a bad idea but it's already suggested

[grand haven]

quick question what buff do you think the female book should gain

[final flint]

500% speed

[grand haven]

nah

I got it

#monster-ideas is a place where no idea gets accepted, aka be as creative as you want

[white fable]

i mean, the chances are it wasnt gonna get added anyways

[clear stump]

Also may be worthwhile search keywords before you submit.

Thesot already suggested team buffs based on book.

Killermuffin already suggested team buffs based on book.

Items already existed and were removed

[white fable]

item?

[slim sedge]

true

[winged cove]

@little onyx Watch your language.

[clear stump]

Yikes

[white fable]

[slim sedge]

[clear stump]

Surprised dynos message isn't gone yet... lol

[slim sedge]

discord outage yesterday probably messed with all the bots

[white fable]

lmao i think the bot died after sending that message

[clear stump]

So another Beast?

[clear stump]

Still says its online

[white fable]

beasts dont boost relics and runes last i checked

[clear stump]

Beasts provide team buffs and enemy debunks.

[clear stump]

I don't think poseidon is wanting to buff runes and relics

@little onyx dude. Calm down.

[final flint]

dyno decided ur first one was shameful enough to not be deleted

[clear stump]

You should know after the first time that the bot warned you your "normal talking" should be changed a little bit so it follows the rules.

[white fable]

new guardians are not allowed as an idea right

[final flint]

i just ate a hotdog and its spicy as hell

[final flint]

its only hatching guardian, no?

[clear stump]

Hatching guardian no
Depends what guardian you want

[final flint]

uh

yes

[white fable]

there i put my idea in #submit-ideas

[clear stump]

I just saw offtopic and I wasn't happy

I don't suppose you've read the pins of the ideas channels

[final flint]

ah yes what an amazing channel

[final flint]

amazing
i wonder if its in the game

[white fable]

boost relics.....

[clear stump]

Not new

[final flint]

i misread relic as rune

i am in pain

[white fable]

but... there was more than 1 idea in that message

[clear stump]

That's before my time as ideas depr

[white fable]

oh

[clear stump]

I'm not gonna go back 3 years to warn someone who is likely no longer a member of the server lol

[white fable]

i think that person left yeah

[final flint]

sapphire relic when

[slim sedge]

never

[white fable]

click collect gold on your habitat to collect it

[slim sedge]

[slim sedge]

[rain spire]

bruh relic guardian

[clear stump]

@white fable please search before you submit

[white fable]

:(

sorry

[clear stump]

Plus doesn't LP give 30% craft boost anyways

[white fable]

i dont think so

[clear stump]

Thought it was both craft and extract

[final flint]

its only extract, no?

[slim sedge]

yeah it's only extract

it does give a 30% hatching boost

[final flint]

what

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-4486363

[slim sedge]

zamn, complicated idea

[shy sedge]

"Make it so that When a daily quest or race task is completed a pop up appears on the top screen to notify it has been completed"

was this or smth close to this submitted in the past?

[weary plank]

Yeah, 3 days ago

[shy sedge]

oh neat

[weary plank]

The race part, at least

[shy sedge]

so the daily quest part hasn't been suggested?

[weary plank]

I don't think so

[shy sedge]

worth a shot

[spark vine]

I always look at this channel and it's related stuff and wonder to myself, "I wonder how often if ever SP actually looks at this stuff" 🤔

[slim sedge]

they clearly do look at the feedback and ideas channels

it's just everyone's ideas suck too much to be added to the game

[wooden thunder]

TRUE

[clear stump]

I personally would be so annoyed if I got a popup every time I completed daily goals lol

Smugglers cave popup is annoying as it is lol

[weary plank]

Eitan your feedback is very true

Had to look twice because I thought an enemy got Trait Disabled twice but turns out one was TD and the other Shield Break

No idea why they changed the TD icon to that

[clear stump]

@grim reef you can already search by trophy on the Zeppelin. ;)

[shy sedge]

i can see how that can be annoying

just a smol nitpick i have since i'm lazy and don't like having to go back and forth to see if i fed enough for the tomato quest

[spark vine]

I don't think the team filters in the zepplin actually work tho in my experience

[clear stump]

The name search bar won't

[signal lance]

Ok can someone show me the new death animations because I have been seeing them and I don't know what they are

[wicked bluff]

It's these purple fire I think

[clear lagoon]

if you die by a certain element it shows a certain death animation

[wicked bluff]

^^^

[clear lagoon]

for fire you burst into flames

water a swirling water effect

[wicked bluff]

Don’t see why it needs to be removed

Looks cool to me tbh

[rain spire]

yeah

the large text tho should be small or removed imo

[clear stump]

i don't like it, it's so jumpy

one frame it's there the next it isn't

[mystic kernel]

Yeah the defeat text

Damage numbers should either remain big or have some sort of preset scaling option

[final flint]

@orchid lodge wdym by an unbought island?

[slim sedge]

well

I think he means "let us pick up trash even if we own every island and have cleared them all out"

[clear stump]

Basically "respawn small rocks for us%

And agreed

[radiant fox]

So, I expect lots of backlash and possibly an ignore, but I had to let that out of my system 😂

But I'm always happy to hear thoughts of my fellow players, be they in support or opposition, so feel free to lmk if u agree/disagree with my views, and if u disagree, why so

[clear stump]

@gentle dawn I'd specify what the upgrade would be. What kind of Cells?

If you had cleared all your Small Rocks before the Mr Beast event commenced its not likely that Trash will have spawned. Trash is just a resting of such

If you haven't bought all your islands and cleared rocks then you're fine. But otherwise....

[gentle dawn]

Like add different legendary, epic and rare monster cells and make it double the amount of cells in the chests

[clear stump]

The little "Trash" bags that appeared as part of Mr Beast Eco event.

Not to be confused with Rubble which have been here for years.

[clear stump]

Specify in your idea please

[gentle dawn]

Idk how I can specify anymore but ok so in a tier 1 chest it gives a random rare monster cells and 2x battle pass monster cells and what I would do is change the randomised rare monsters you can get cells for and double the amount and also instead of getting 2x battle pass monster cells we should get 4x which is double the amount and and basically do the same on the other chests and for a t7 chest double the chances of getting more cells for another randomised monster and the randomised monster cells you get they are all outdated so add like corrupted monster cells into it

[clear stump]

As part of the Mr Beast Eco challenge, Trash Bags began appearing in place of Small Rocks. Clear 1 Trash and you get a trash token for the timed challenge.

[clear stump]

Yeah, becausebyou didnt remove all the roks that existedbbefore Mr Beast Eco challenge started

I have and I assume Wallnut has too

[clear stump]

Can't wait to see what this gems path will be 🤔

5 gems at the end, 5 more throughout the process, 1800 total? Lol

[hollow nova]

[grand haven]

1 gem per node

We're talking about the soon-to-be flood of #general-feedback and the new changes to the maze

[hollow nova]

ideas-feedback-discussion

[grand haven]

[grand haven]

we can talk about feedback or ideas

speaking of which, your feedback is just a banned idea

how do you balance between the era restrictions

if it's all OG it stands no chance against 150s in the later nodes in the dungeons, assuming it's a mythic battle

also rarity, level and ranks

but like, how can they balance eras

But have you seen a dungeon that changes monster rarities depending on the restrictions?

[rain spire]

did someone waste their braincell again?

[clear stump]

This is a channel to discuss both the feedback channels and the ideas channels. Don't minimod if you can't do it right ;)

@exotic echo pretty sure they mean what was the 30% discount last time (the 12hr 30% at very end) is now 20% (making it 12h 20% at the very end)

First hour usually has 30% anywaya

No

Turn pings off ty

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-glitch-gif-18779226

[clear stump]

"It's a scam"
It's getting annoying hear people call this that and the other a scam

There's a difference between that and a ripoff

[clear stump]

Bruh the pings

I don't need a buzz buzz just because you went ha ha

Just use reactions or don't use reply ezpz

Dude I'm just gonna block you now

[clear stump]

[radiant fox]

Isa, I'm pretty sure it'll be just the 5 gems at the end, with a nice cheerful "thank u for playing" pop-up 😂

Okay, maybe another 3 gems somewhere in the middle of say, about a 25 node path

[clear stump]

🤣

[lean kelp]

Apparently its 370 gems in total

Unless they nerfed it from last time I heard about it

[grand haven]

damn if it is then it might not be so bad

but then again, if it is then why not just say it sooner

[slim sedge]

zamn

[versed walrus]

I just want to add to the feedback I made

I have played 6 pvp games recently

3 of them I gained 4 or less trophies from

I don’t know how else to prove how horrible this system is

[slim sedge]

luck issue

[clear stump]

Were they revenge attacks?

Prob best to show your PVP attack log Jafe

[slim sedge]

@gentle dawn what would be the point of that

[gentle dawn]

Point of what

[slim sedge]

your feedback

[gentle dawn]

Ohh

[slim sedge]

literally no one would want to go back after getting all the stars

[gentle dawn]

Cause for food farming you can get 2x the amount and then it just stops their and we should be able to go back to the start and do it again

[slim sedge]

why would anyone want that

I'd rather have 100% more food than 25% more food

[gentle dawn]

For food farming

[slim sedge]

what

that makes no sense at all

[gentle dawn]

Wait does it stay at 100%

[slim sedge]

yes

it stays at 100%

[gentle dawn]

Ohhh my bad i thought it was for 2 days like the others

[slim sedge]

no

[rain spire]

also self upvoting

[slim sedge]

once you get it to 3 stars every time you activate it it'll always be 100%

[gentle dawn]

Ok thanks

[gentle dawn]

Wdym self up voting

[rain spire]

i saw you took that off your feedback

[slim sedge]

yeah

[gentle dawn]

Took what off

[slim sedge]

I also saw that you upvoted your own feedback

[gentle dawn]

No

[rain spire]

imagine self upvoting

[gentle dawn]

I put down

[slim sedge]

don't try to lie to me

[gentle dawn]

I am not

Check

[slim sedge]

you are

[gentle dawn]

Check

[slim sedge]

how about you accept that you lied

[gentle dawn]

I didn’t

[slim sedge]

because I saw it with my own eyes

[gentle dawn]

I put down

[slim sedge]

[rain spire]

imagine lying to those who already know about it

[slim sedge]

yeah

[gentle dawn]

I am not lying

[slim sedge]

you are

don't try to say that you aren't lying to the people who KNOW that you lied

[stray condor]

none of them reset bruh

also if you downvoted your feedback from the start like you said you did then why post it

[rain spire]

he upvoted his own feedback then downvoted it

[versed walrus]

I will show

Attack log

[clear stump]

Guys new idea
Consider tyra and I both have lives and have been trying to come up with ways to process ideas quickly

No I know I'm js

Wasn't funny but I could tell it wasn't meant to cause offense

Jus sayin

[versed walrus]

Not revenges

Just bad matchmaking

[slim sedge]

sounds like luck issue tbh

[versed walrus]

It shouldn’t be possible

Also 3 times in such a short span

It should be you can’t play someone with 500 less or 500 more

[clear stump]

That looks like normal pvp to me in honesty

When playing PVP you will fight people at a much lower level than you

[versed walrus]

Cmon tho over 1000 trophy difference is absurd they shouldn’t let that be possible

[clear stump]

It's legendary leagues, you get a reduced trophy gain in return for an easy sweep

[final flint]

#submit-ideas message

doesnt rune experience already do that

[clear stump]

Yep

Monthly, lasts some 4 days, reduces by 50%

[final flint]

even if it was an hour or two permanent decrease

rune experience makes it a bit more broken

[clear stump]

I genuinely reckon a lot of the ingame waiting times are fine as they are.

[final flint]

that's true

plus i think a lot of these time change ideas are based on impatience imo

[clear stump]

yes agreed.

[rain spire]

true

@gentle dawn are you that impatience for a rune to be done crafting that you had to make an “idea” to reduce the time of rune crafting?

[final flint]

not that hard to wait at least 6hr+ imo

[gentle dawn]

I am not impatient but it will be better

[rain spire]

bruh

[clear stump]

Try and find a team that goes fast in race, finishes quick.

Then you have until tuesday midday (GMT) to do whatever you want craftingwise.

[clear stump]

No memes.

[clear stump]

@karmic fable tell me please, what do you mean by "actually worth it"? Speedups are never a mandatory thing unless you truly feel the need to speed something up - thats when it becomes worth it. Even then I wouldn't advise on it.

@tardy jay please put one idea per message.

[tardy jay]

I was just adding onto it because i forgot to put the whole thing sorry

But its a good idea atleast

[clear stump]

Edit function does exist, please use that to merge all your messages into one. Thanks.

@full sandal how is that an idea? 🧐

[full sandal]

I'm messing idk I'm thinking

😂

[clear stump]

[clear stump]

@lament pewter Tayni already had a move which applied Megataunt to an enemy, just sayin

[lament pewter]

Oh. Didn't know. I wanted it to be in a new monster.

[clear stump]

Well, I advise you put it in #monster-ideas instead please

[lament pewter]

Ok

[clear stump]

@devout raven one thing - why?

[devout raven]

wym

What I do

[tardy jay]

thats not really a suggestion or idea and you know social point needs a way to make money to pay there employees and to pay much more things like better equimpent

so lowering the prices they cant really do cus it would affect them all

[devout raven]

I was just kidding

[clear stump]

Not only that but some things are really good priced

[devout raven]

Idrc about prices

[clear stump]

Then remove it
Joke ideas are an annoyance to us and look bad on you

[tardy jay]

Yes

[devout raven]

Can find it

Can’t

[clear stump]

If it isn't gone in 10m your role is gone

[devout raven]

Where is it

It isn’t there

[devout raven]

It’s already gone

[clear stump]

@humble summit put that in #monster-ideas please.

[tardy jay]

Your fast I was just about to ping him about that

[humble summit]

Okay thanks

[clear stump]

@shell pewter Is there not usually an event giving Mythic Cells for completing all daily goals?

[shell pewter]

Yeah I honestly was more thinking if upping up the gems the mythic just came to mind when I was thinking about the daily calendar

[clear stump]

Of course not a permanent thing, and it does rotate occasionally.

Yeah, that's fair. My apologies, I saw daily bonus, thouht of Daily Goals rather than Calendar. lol

[shell pewter]

Nah it’s alright I should have spoken more clearly about it being the calendar

[rancid cargo]

I don't see why people are always report pop-up ads and seven sins nerf after they haven't checked to scroll up before reporting?

[clear stump]

there's a difference between a bug report and a feedback

it's silly to report a bug twice bc it often involves the usual camaraderie joining chat and going "already reported" etc

whereas with feedback pressing issues will continue to be "reported", same with bugs even if it isn't encouraged there

[broken glen]

#general-feedback message

I don’t think it’s very much more coins

Only 1k lord

More*

[clear stump]

even then that's still another 4/5 collects throughout the week,

Which nobody wants to have to do.

@eternal frigate Sorry but I have removed your idea, a way to better arrange your habitats was already suggested

[eternal frigate]

Oh... i'm sorry

[broken glen]

True but it’s not terrible

I like the suggestion

But saying it’ll make you lose your life and take a bikillion coins is an exaggeration

[clear stump]

it's okay don't worry 😄

[clear stump]

Think about it, mazes already require 4 collects a day on average + dungeon, as well as however many you can get from monsterwood. overall it's still a bit easier but it's still a pointless change to me.

[broken glen]

Yeah I’m just saying it’s an exaggeration

[clear stump]

it's an exaggeration yes but it proves the point, having that 10% difference will still mean a lot for many players

especially when there's at least 2 LTPS that aren't active at the end

this time it's only a nectar path that's available during the end discount, and i don't think that end discount applies to side paths... lol

[grand haven]

@humble summit so you're saying that enemies should have unrelenting assault, absolute zero, phase shield, nanite cloud, hidden shiv, demon wings, burnt blood, purgatory throne, ancient cloak, spear of destiny and seven sins?

[rain spire]

“hmmm lets make monsters have the broken talents! Defiantly would not make players ragequit and cause another controversy by these talents!”

srsly @humble summit why would you want that

[orchid lodge]

Dampening Field

as if they don’t have enough stamina drain

[grand haven]

fun fact: all monsters are rank 5 after node 10

can't wait to fight 3 soul drags

[clear stump]

@brisk cedar that's not what we have in war is it???

https://tenor.com/view/lord-help-me-judge-judy-facepalm-gif-12371798

[brisk cedar]

Sadly,it is

💀

[rain spire]

so thats why i died at node 11 in all RUSD except Metro

[rain spire]

@uneven summit ideas involving adventure map islands are banned/over suggested

[humble summit]

Since those are talents then of course, why not?

[humble summit]

The dungeons are too easy

[rain spire]

bruh

[tardy jay]

Damn nobody's been talking about my idea that's sad

[uneven summit]

👍

Still feel like its a whole portion of the game being ignored

[rain spire]

true

aside RUSD, SP didnt made any new changes for the other dungeons

[rain spire]

dude no one would want that or like that

[humble summit]

@true lintel

[humble summit]

Just him?

[rain spire]

am i losing braincells

[weary plank]

Well that's NoOne, Sentri said no one

[rain spire]

:cyanocittatrue:

[radiant fox]

Y'all giving a troll too much attention and playing right into his ploy 😂

Let's face it, the Doomed RUSD is abysmally difficult to do, and it was only after I got Uriel to 130 could I complete it with regularity

And even now, when I have Uriel at 150, I'm still forced to use him to be able to complete it, gaining a boat load of Uriel cells in the process 😶

[rain spire]

all RUSDs are hard

except Metro

[signal lance]

@uneven summit here are some things to note about your idea.

1. Adding new islands is harder than you think with a new design, new code, and placement of monsters.

2. Its a banned Idea

[clear stump]

Another stupid joke feedback.

[wooden thunder]

^

every feedback is just

💀

[clear stump]

"Oh they don't listen"
Half the time it's cryptic or jokey.

[urban roost]

here's my take
so, if you make maze mons costly, less people will have it. i.e. slumster, then less people will have slumster so you dont have to face tough bases anymore

[wooden thunder]

but like imagine it was a srs comment saying they won't listen

[clear stump]

Is that meant to be funny? Or

[versed walrus]

But then all the p2p people will get it

[urban roost]

no, i want to see the opinions of people

[clear stump]

I mean people have been asking for better mazes for a while
I'd argue the ongoing format is "cheaper" overall plus offers better results than ones in Metro or Corrupt era

[versed walrus]

Yea

[wooden thunder]

ehhhhh it still the same thing

also no 30 discount?

[clear stump]

Yeah no 30%

[wooden thunder]

but it just make people more mad

[versed walrus]

No 30% discount does make it incredibly hard for f2p players to get the monster.

[wooden thunder]

how?

it lower the price better then 20%

[versed walrus]

Because it is very hard for f2p players to get like 8k coins

[urban roost]

what about at 1d 18h

did they remove that as well

[clear stump]

No, same format as last month, which didn't have 1d18h discount
Just a 20% for last 12h of maze

[versed walrus]

Yea that is what I am saying did you not read what I said?

[urban roost]

8k coins in 7 days is beyond easy

[wooden thunder]

for me not really

[clear stump]

Which is what I said

[wooden thunder]

idk how to do stuff under 4 hours

[versed walrus]

Not when you don’t have lots of the maze worker things

[wooden thunder]

or wait 4 hours at the right time

[wooden thunder]

p2p moment

[clear stump]

You get 3.4k for free, plus breeding event
Mazes are 4h collects nor anything under
Learn to use alarms

[urban roost]

i can sleep half the week and still get the mons
1k from dungeon
2.4k or something from mw, i have to check this
then you're left with barely anything

[wooden thunder]

i go to school

and school is 6 hours

[clear stump]

Ok

[wooden thunder]

so i won't have time to get my 4 hour daily

[clear stump]

Collect before school
Collect after

I had school during mazes too yk

I've played for 8 years if you need a reminder, and yes i am flexing it.

[urban roost]

theres something called a lunch break as well, i hope

[clear stump]

I remember being in history class hiding my phone, which wasn't permitted, watching ads for 20 coins so I could get Makugan and Dunn on LTP

[versed walrus]

A lot of times children are not able to use their phones at lunch

[clear stump]

Yeah they weren't allowed here

[urban roost]

bruh, that's like grade 3

[clear stump]

Didn't stop me from restarting the game 5 or 6 times for klectus on cardflip

[versed walrus]

It can be thru high school

[clear stump]

No. That's American

[wooden thunder]

true!

[versed walrus]

Even in America it can be thru high school

[clear stump]

Phones aren't permitted in school grounds here, if you have one visible it gets confiscated

[wooden thunder]

yeah

[rain spire]

someone wasting their braincells again?

[wooden thunder]

nope

we talking about maze

[versed walrus]

Yea Dinno makes me lose brain cells

[rain spire]

ahh

[wooden thunder]

dino just said opinion base

saying its easy to do mazes

[versed walrus]

Which is just not true

[rain spire]

to me its both easy and hard at the same time

[urban roost]

i did some math. assuming you sleep 8 hours a day (more than enough)
you only need 5 days of collection (including MW and dungeon, excluding breeding events). 2 days doing nothing

theres no excuse for not getting the mons

if one has a hard time getting it, serious skill issues detected

[wooden thunder]

[versed walrus]

Or just don’t want to spend that much time playing the game just watching ads

[rain spire]

^^

[urban roost]

just play on bluestacks

[rain spire]

making the maze event hard is just stupid

[versed walrus]

Idk what that is

[urban roost]

ad pops up, hit the home button and game again. 0.2 seconds to close ad

[wooden thunder]

i don't have bluestacks i'm mobile

[rain spire]

all in all imo, keep the maze that way

[urban roost]

i never finished watching a pop up ad

i just reload

[rain spire]

the hell is bluesticks

also self upvote rlly dinno

[urban roost]

emulator

[rain spire]

go on

tell me more

[clear stump]

Sticks with a weird hue.

[rain spire]

now wheres redsticks

[clear stump]

@autumn geyser just add the person as a friend and fight them through friendly battle? 😅

[slim sedge]

[signal lance]

@karmic fable Do you understand how broken that would make Master Goldfield?

Do you understand the amount of teams that would fall to that buff?

[clear stump]

Plus it goes to #monster-ideas . Not #submit-ideas .

[signal lance]

Do you understand how unfun it would be to fight what would essentially be a Madam Fusion that was buffed beyond comprehention?

[grand haven]

Oh I'm sure people will be thrilled to fight 3 Soul Drags and 5 Bodyguards as well as getting stamina drained 7 times in a row in a dungeon that already had enough stamina drain

[signal lance]

This is why I hate trolls

[clear stump]

I feel like it's less "troll" and more "not thought out"

[clear stump]

@versed walrus Tell me, please, why?

Personally I only revenge others, when I cannot win regular attacks.

[versed walrus]

Bc it gets annoying when you play someone who is like 100ish trophies less than you so you lose 3ish trophies every battle and then it adds up when they keep going back and forth

[clear stump]

... then why go back and forth? If you're losing "3ish trophies every battle" with them, is it not more worth it to simply do regular pvp attacks?

[versed walrus]

Bc then you just lose the 20ish trophies

[clear stump]

I get why it adds up - have you checked the Trophy Difference?

[clear stump]

From losing a pvp attack? 🧐

[versed walrus]

If you don’t revenge

[signal lance]

In my entire time playing ML I only revenge attacked twice

[clear stump]

Ok let me just say, unless you're much lower than the league you should be, then a loss is practically guaranteed.

Sorry, mincing my words.

[versed walrus]

Why is a loss guaranteed?

[clear stump]

Push as hard as you can to be slightly above where you want to be, especially at end of season. At the end of season, you will hopefully be lucky enough to remain where you want to be at the end.

[clear stump]

If you're where you "deserve" to be, you will likely have an equal win + loss ratio, if not slightly skewed positively to account for trophy reduction each season, so and so forth

I'll be honest, I can't put my thoughts into words properly, but my thoughts are based upon the current state of pvp that have existed since goodness knows when... lol. Maybe since Aug 2020 when PVP got another Revamp, start of cosmic era?

[versed walrus]

Maybe

We should bring back multiplayer stamina 💀

3 hour regen times 😂

[dapper oyster]

steve carell would like some words with you

[versed walrus]

Why

[clear stump]

I swear it was 2 hours 😅

[versed walrus]

It might have been

It was just way too long lol

[clear stump]

Either way I remember the "Play At Home" era. Early Cosmic specifically. The happiest I have ever been with this game in all honesty.

[versed walrus]

I wasn’t playing the game then why was it so good?

[clear stump]

Eh, the reload times encouraged strategy

[versed walrus]

True

[clear stump]

At the aforementioned time, the maximum "dungeon" stamina went from 4/5/6 to 10, and PVP went from like 3 to 15. Plus PVP Eggs were introduced, L1 and L2 leagues were opened up much further, so and so forth. New Era was hype, because the stat jump between Legedaries and Original Mythics (and the struggle between them) was scary for all

[versed walrus]

Oh

I remember when it was max 4 stamina

[clear stump]

Hence why I say 4/5/6 instead of just 4

[versed walrus]

Yea

[clear stump]

4 was the global max, yes, but it could be upgraded via the Facebook version of the game which shut down in 2019 I think
Bearing in mind thisversion lacked Dungeons, the entirely of Teams, had an Adventure Zeppelin, so and so forth

[versed walrus]

Tbf before end of Met era the most recent time I had played was when the 200th monster was being released so everything was so different

[versed walrus]

Interesting

[clear stump]

I spent the 200 gems to have the 6th Stamina, at least that's how I remember it... lol

[versed walrus]

lol

[clear stump]

Felt like the death of me not being able to play on Facebook anymore 😂 That's where I started, many many many years ago

[versed walrus]

Did you start in 2014?

Or 2015?

[clear stump]

I actually started August 5th 2013 according to Facebook and old pictures

An image from 2020 if not earliest, 5th August 2013

My Dragon City account is older 🙃

[versed walrus]

Wow

[final flint]

remember when stamina upgrades werent a waste of gems

[karmic fable]

Get rid of ads in pvp

[clear stump]

@median saddle as much as I love your explanation, its much better suited for #general-feedback , not ignoring the fact it's a repeated idea (bringing in remaining 4 Beasts and expanding the criteria for levelling up)

[median saddle]

fair enough, I'll post it there instead

[clear stump]

😊 thanks

[rain spire]

not sure how tanks without taunt is a problem

theres already a ton of tanks with taun

[gilded eagle]

Hardnut gorilla already has taunt and megataunt skills

[signal lance]

The problem lies with the META. If a tank doesn't have Taunt or MT in their traits they are essentially useless since they can't protect their team unless they get a turn in

[rain spire]

sounds reasonable

honestly, Jackseptieye feels more of an attacker with a Taunt and Phyreas as a support

@karmic fable that isnt an idea

you can submit that in #general-feedback

[versed walrus]

Simply tanks are not useful unless they have SC Megataunt/Taunt or Trait Megataunt/Taunt

[orchid lodge]

but we don’t exactly want cookie-cutter tanks either

Do you know how bland tanks would be if they strictly needed Taunt and/or MT

[versed walrus]

No point of a tank if they are not one of those

[orchid lodge]

Tanks is just classified as High Health
Tanks like FaZe Rug can work well (albeit in certain situations but still viable)

[versed walrus]

Yea

But they should make the non taunt tanks good then

[orchid lodge]

they are to some extent

[clear stump]

Theres already two monthly subscription features we do not need another

[orchid lodge]

Those inflicted with ads so blissfully unaware and thinking they applied to everyone

[clear stump]

I think you'll find a good portion of ad-afflicted players are aware

[orchid lodge]

Still the uninformed minority unfortunately

[signal lance]

Fazerug is so very specific in his usage

A tank can really only be useful if they have Taunt or MT in their trait or be Turtellion/Elfreide

[clear stump]

I think it was suggested some years back that "Bruiser" or "Brute" be introduced as a classification within descriptions.

I think now that "Tank" is more applicable to Taunt/Megataunt monsters, it is more needed than ever.

[orchid lodge]

and yet he can actually win a decent amount of games in Grand Duels due to his Ignition and Fire Weakness as well as self heal

[clear stump]

That's Duels.

Overall, he's... eh...

[orchid lodge]

There are also tanks like Frutastor

[clear stump]

Frutastor actually serves well as a "tank" in a sense

high enough rank, he can one-shot most tanks

he soaks up damage, heals well, and can certainly dish out as well as he takes it.

[signal lance]

Then comes the times when he just deals more than he takes

[clear stump]

yes lol

He certainly fits the style of "old tank", like pre-2019. but of course you know.

it's like bruiser vs actual tank now

unless the "new tank" wants to be called a Brute instead.

[signal lance]

Yeah. and Frut definitely did the Bruiser role justice

[clear stump]

Because, jesus christ. Sometimes they hurt like hell

[rain spire]

what does Bruiser even do

i heard it from Meltus but im not sure why he has a “brute”

[clear stump]

halfway between attacker and tank. decent damage but also ability to absorb damage ie via heals, regens, shield

[orchid lodge]

a practical tank would sound boring as hell if im being completely honest

viable sure but I've seen it many times

[clear stump]

i mean a tank tank has existed before now

santo, pango are my personal example

[orchid lodge]

exactly

[clear stump]

santa was weird, being forsaken in forsaken era yadda yadda yadda

[orchid lodge]

I just realized im ranting about an interesting tank when #monster-ideas is right there

[rain spire]

kekw

[clear stump]

@rancid cargo .suggest works too. Delete your "correction" please, if it wasn't already apparent the bot is/was offline. 😉

[rancid cargo]

Oh wait, I didn't know that .suggest also works

I'm a trainee at feedback tho

[clear stump]

It's specifically stated by the bot to use .suggest [suggestion], meaning the command is .suggest followed by your suggestion.

[orchid lodge]

the ratio between era cells and monster cells is not 1:2

[lean kelp]

It's 5 cells : 1 resource

[versed walrus]

Either would work

[final flint]

bot still down

[rain spire]

@spark vine thats not an idea

[spark vine]

we should get rid of it tho

[rain spire]

isabelle said there are some “alternate measures” that they are working on

[spark vine]

oh

I didn't see that

ok

[rain spire]

@real owl that belongs to #monster-ideas

[spark vine]

?

that's just a status effect

that definitely goes in #submit-ideas

[real owl]

that isnt a monster