#ideas-feedback-discussion

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foggy summit
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Free my man 😭

rain spire
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yes i am

wicked bluff
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Bro, just get over it. You got kicked, there’s still time left til halfway point iirc, find a better team.

grand haven
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^

serene hawk
serene hawk
serene hawk
orchid lodge
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stop being salty

grand haven
serene hawk
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eh

wicked bluff
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Sure, let me ask Smelli. neobukiapproves

serene hawk
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i personally dislike mazes more than races

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that rhymed

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;-;

rain spire
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tales is bad smh

orchid lodge
grand haven
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we got sidetracked

serene hawk
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someone

orchid lodge
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leader of a team probably

rain spire
rain spire
orchid lodge
serene hawk
serene hawk
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i feel bad

orchid lodge
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not all soldiers are non-leaders and im just making an educated guess calm down dude 🤨

serene hawk
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the only upvotes on his feedback was from himself

orchid lodge
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some soldiers can recruit others jeez

serene hawk
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perhaps i should upvote it just for fun pandalftroll

wicked bluff
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Our team is unfortunately full

serene hawk
orchid lodge
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hes a bot that automatically puts both upvote and downvotes

grand haven
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because your feedback are wrong CursedRagnarok

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like literally wrong

serene hawk
wicked bluff
serene hawk
wicked bluff
rain spire
serene hawk
wicked bluff
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That’s untrue

orchid lodge
serene hawk
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this is what happens when i become inactive for a few days Sonnorsmallconcern

wicked bluff
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Not because ur lacking in experience?

grand haven
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Stop using f2p as an excuse jesus

wicked bluff
grand haven
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I'm f2p

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doing just fine

serene hawk
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ah damnit. i'd only be allowed into top teams if im p2w and not that im skilled. screw the leads! pandalftroll

orchid lodge
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F2p doesnt not equal acitvity nor proness
They're asking for activity and gems (both are achieved through f2p ways)

grand haven
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Alright, stop using F2P as an excuse moamen

serene hawk
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im still annoyed that i didnt get l2 in time Sonnorsmallconcern

orchid lodge
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that's not a valdi argument

wicked bluff
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Dude, I have seen countless F2Pers being in top teams. You’re just salty that they actually know how to recruit people.

grand haven
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Facts are still excuses

orchid lodge
serene hawk
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you better do.. i have a feeling studying will help you more than whining does

lean kelp
serene hawk
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oh all right

wicked bluff
orchid lodge
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okay now he just sounds like a kid nervouschamless

grand haven
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whatever you say

rain spire
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“oH iM f2p” what does that have to do with anything about teams

orchid lodge
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I can tell

serene hawk
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troll moment

lean kelp
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What idea/feedback is this discussing exactly?

orchid lodge
serene hawk
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second last Sonnorsmallconcern

wicked bluff
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Take a look, you won’t be disappointed

lean kelp
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Ah

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Guess I'm blind

orchid lodge
grand haven
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if only I had a bingo slot that said "dumb feedback"

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oh wait

serene hawk
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and there's one thing we can agree on: man's lacking skill neobukiapproves

lean kelp
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No El Colossal

orchid lodge
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I see SonnorMilkSip

rain spire
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rip El Colossal

grand haven
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oh yeah el colosal is just gone without warning

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and never coming back babyblobface

rain spire
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same for elite and forsaken events

orchid lodge
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I wanted Steamwrath to be breedable if you know what I mean

rain spire
grand haven
rain spire
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and i wanted a froslika

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again

grand haven
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anyways Imma pull a moamen and study for the test

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see yall neobukiapproves

serene hawk
grand haven
rain spire
orchid lodge
slim sedge
night talon
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I'm f2p too

hollow nova
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who is 'they' referring to

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top teams?

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if so, then maybe don't try to join a top team, and join a decent team where you can manage comfortably in races and war

night talon
slim sedge
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join MBNB neobukiapproves

molten zinc
rain spire
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ouch

slim sedge
slim sedge
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super werted feedback @clear stump

rain spire
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someone ban rickey

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pls

clear stump
slim sedge
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wait can you not delete messages

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at least mute them thundercool they also sent a rickroll gif in general chat as well

signal lance
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Sounds like you just fell into a bad team or you just didn't participate enough to meet a requirement

clear stump
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OK, how many points did you have when you were kicked out?

molten zinc
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cool

molten zinc
night talon
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@urban roost couldn't agree more but I think u should have said "other miscellaneous bugs" cuz people gonna be like oh no u missed this bug

urban roost
urban roost
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i can go on forever

night talon
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Yeah for real tho if only sp read that feedback and did what was in that feedback game would become at least 10x better imo

wicked bluff
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They do read it, but the problem here is that they don’t take any action about it.

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The only times they took some action is the disastrous Power Armor release and horrible RUSD update.

night talon
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Bro the rangnarok fugitive was hated soo much and they did nothing about it

wicked bluff
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That is why I said that they don’t take any action about it.

clear stump
clear stump
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i dont moderate feedback

urban roost
clear stump
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ideas department, not feedback department

grand haven
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Feedback department role when

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I'm just gonna tick Dinno's feedback as good feedback so I can have another one on the bingo board

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if not there have been a lot more

hollow nova
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Make me feedback department neobukiapproves pandalftroll

grand haven
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sure, I just need to ask DarthChabel brb pandalftroll

rain spire
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nah make me feedback department pandalftroll

grand haven
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y'know, out of all the things in this bingo that I thought would be difficult to get, I didn't think detailed idea being one of them

signal lance
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So what are the thats on my Feedback

grand haven
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no he's trolling

wicked bluff
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No?

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Maybe

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Who knows?

clear stump
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On what lap

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Can I hire someone to tell me each morning which feedbacks are worth reading 😂 filter past the "skill issue role when" rubbish

grand haven
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Mari

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the community would take the channel more seriously if the company took the channel more seriously WickahRound

serene hawk
clear stump
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OK 390 by lap 5 isn't much

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Ah misremembered

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Probably wanted an instant change

serene hawk
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who's that "him" Sonnorsmallconcern

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and what makes you think that?

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do you even know the meaning of "manipulation"?

grand haven
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This thing has been going on for a day now can we drop it

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no, george is not a manipulative guy that pays people to laugh at you, he's a troll

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that's an ambitious dream

serene hawk
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If that's what you want, sorry to tell you but it's near impossible to achieve it even in the real world.. if there's anything positive, there'll always be something negative WickahRound

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nice mindset

rain spire
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“remove negative people” arent you a negative person

clear stump
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Quite frankly this is a negative and toxic value in itself. People are allowed to be negative - people are allowed to have negative opinions about the game, negative feedback on such, negative opinions on others in the server and negative opinions about their actions. This isn't a server where there's an "only positive vibes no negative" rule. Its unfortunate if you are unable to stand back and take a look at someone making a fool of themselves by leaving inappropriate feedback for the sake of trolling.

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Attempting to enforce some sort of total dictatorship wouldn't work buddy, you can't become the thought police

grand haven
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if ML was a bit better then maybe the community would be more respectful

clear stump
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That's what we try to do anyways. Control the toxicity.

grand haven
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it's just the way this server is neglected

clear stump
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However we Monster Masters, Keepers, Moderators are literally only human. We enforce rules and remove people. We try and get people on board but there's very very very few people who we could possibly consider for the position imo.

rain spire
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mm yes remove people to make the server better

clear stump
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And even then there'll be an achilles heel

grand haven
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this server feels like a waste of potential

hollow nova
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He be saying moderation is bad

rain spire
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achillies feel?

hollow nova
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😔

rain spire
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bruh

hollow nova
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what

clear stump
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No.

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Just no.

hollow nova
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there are no benefits to that whatsoever

grand haven
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pulling a tf2 moment right here

hollow nova
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or maybe some

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but pointless

clear stump
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Not everything that happens in this server comes down to p2w or f2p

hollow nova
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What

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“steal cards”

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bruh

rain spire
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some f2p and p2p friends would stay connected to chat instead of what youre suggesting

clear stump
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Is this speaking from experience, or is this inferring anyone who spends has ultra rich parents? Especially people who spend a lot in higher teams?

grand haven
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Moamen please, you're on a very, and I mean very warped mindset right now

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not all p2ws are children that spend parents' money

hollow nova
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if you’re stealing cards and forcing parents to pay for monster legends stuff you’ve got issues

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no?

rain spire
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no offense but lets say im losing braincells from this dude

hollow nova
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just you probably

dense quail
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isa mute me here

hollow nova
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i’m f2p

rain spire
grand haven
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same

clear stump
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You're making it sound like addiction. I've been f2p 8 yesrs and not once in my life have I ever felt like I must buy it at any cost. Its a game.

hollow nova
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the lure of glp does not make my mind go “hmm, today i will commit theft”

hollow nova
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i’m perfectly content with being f2p

grand haven
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then those are the 1%, they are not the 10% nor the 50%

hollow nova
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if you have such a problem with people spending, get a job so you can buy stuff

clear stump
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Discord has been around for a good 5 or 6 years now, this server has been around since 2018 with many more servers being older than this. That hasn't changed. I very highly doubt one in one hundred players are that addled with addiction to the game to the point where they thieve and prey off others to fund such.

rain spire
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it was worth it

grand haven
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jk

clear stump
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Goodbye.

rain spire
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see ya

serene hawk
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what the hell does that even contribute

rain spire
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thats what i was thinking

hollow nova
clear stump
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Have we not had a Talents exchange system suggested before

slim sedge
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you know

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I don't think so

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unless you mean something like "I use 5 Bark Hides and I get 1 UA"

kind egret
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My idea is different

slim sedge
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yes

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but the one below yours

kind egret
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I didn't ask to exchange
I asked to get

slim sedge
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yours is fine

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the one below yours is WickahRound

kind egret
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Maybe he got a point
Maybe some players has a lot of medpack and not enough hidden shif and want to exchange but idk

slim sedge
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there's no reason for it at all

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already did

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and your "reasons" are stupid and invalid

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wert

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there, that's them sorted neobukiapproves

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now I won't have to see what they have to say again

rain spire
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wert means wert

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explain how its facts

foggy summit
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wert isnt an actual english word but its like another way to say stupid

rain spire
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wert means wert neobukiapproves

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get it right next time CCSolarflare

foggy summit
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😔

clear stump
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Imagine not realising wert is a person

signal lance
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I feel like that dude is just grasping at the thinnest straws possible

slim sedge
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not even

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he's literally grasping at nothing

foggy summit
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his name was like 2437wert

clear stump
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Close but not quite there

clear stump
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congratulations to you but i was on about mune

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I'm not a mod but i'm right here

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Just because online status says offline doesnt mean they aren't on discord

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Also peep how I muted you

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🤣

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There's a good couple of s who can do that. We aren't bright orange on our names so you have to look out for us... poof

slim sedge
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do a funni and mute them forever pandalftroll

clear stump
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I don't get paid 🤔

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Putting up with people provides good comedic relief

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Far from it but ok

normal herald
normal herald
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I hope im not interrupting

clear stump
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And who are you to be making comments on someone elses personal life, Moamen?

rain spire
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same

normal herald
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Hey Isa

clear stump
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Does my real-life matter to you so much?

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Are you gonna start funding my real-life activies, new unicycles, visits with friends?

normal herald
clear stump
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I like to think I manage pretty well, ty

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Dang, I tried

rain spire
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coming from the guy who wants people banned

clear stump
normal herald
clear stump
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Banning everyone who disagrees with you isn't "truth" but ok

rain spire
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i thought you already did

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considering your several feedbacks got more negative votes

clear stump
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And it seems to have continued from there, the emotionally-charged feedback. Was it not just yesterday you posted something that got, for brevity, "ratio'd"?

rain spire
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bruh

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your english doesnt have to do with anything with your feedbacks

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so

clear stump
rain spire
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does it look like i even care

clear stump
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This one I mean.

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Your level of English isn't the issue here. It's perfectly fine.

normal herald
# clear stump

What is the Logic Behind this, This would Skyrocket Levels of Freeloading Everyone else hardwork

rain spire
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not just f2p players

normal herald
rain spire
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dude just find someone whos a good leader

clear stump
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It's nothing to do with being f2p, you need to stop putting f2p as the reason for every single feedback. For all I know one day you may end up blaming p2w for "bringing in" a new mechanic you literally asked for 😬 People who don't follow rules of a team get kicked, people who aren't liked by the leaders get kicked, people get kicked it's very simple. It has nothing to do with f2p. Join a better team with respectable players.

normal herald
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You make it sound like it with your Feedback Request

rain spire
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ok

normal herald
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That would eliminate the need to post haughty requests in feedback because Being Free to play doesn’t revolve your problems

rain spire
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cant believe im in this channel with this wert im out of here

signal lance
normal herald
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You can play this game completely free to play

rain spire
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wert means wert neobukiapproves

normal herald
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You dont have to spend a Single Penny to be as equal to someone thats spent thousands

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Being Pay to Win is a Choice

rain spire
normal herald
rain spire
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also reject tea, coffee better

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coffee better pandalftroll

clear stump
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Made a new account in 2013, played 8 years on it, ran it f2p since then, found race teams White Stallions, New Champions and KB Racers, all races went swimmingly. Had the prep, followed the rules, got my points + skips in. No issue whatsoever.

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So I still don't see the point of your new "system".

rain spire
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also to not mention you can still get powerful monsters even after their event has ended, including those that cost money

clear stump
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Join a team with Discord available, where you and everyone else can be easily contactable and can be held accountable for every person's own actions. Follow the rules, have fun. It's not that difficult imo.

normal herald
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Hes right

hearty plaza
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@normal herald the statement where you can be totally F2P and be equal to someone who’s spent thousands isnt correct

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I mean I agree with @fading briar that not everyone has time to gather everything before each race but still love the game. But @clear stump is correct. Your system makes no sense

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Did you know your numbers on your discord ID are 0420 isa?

clear stump
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I mean back then there was no monsterwood, no monthly calendar for gems just puzzle pieces, no welcome events, no beginners pass or beginners maze or anything. I'd like to think game is much more welcome to new people than it was last decade

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Beard, you and me, DM. I Know your next line

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😂

hearty plaza
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I’ve seen it yet. No I mean the 420 part. @fading briar issues here. Banning those who have differing opinions is exactly what Germany did in the mid 30s. What 12 languages do you know.

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You really can’t be worried about others daily or personal hobbies or life unless your going to fund it and give them the time to do what they want

grand haven
slim sedge
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what do you expect

grand haven
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Like what he discusses isn't even in the original feedback anymore

slim sedge
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also what he does "discuss" is stupid

clear stump
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y'all be nice

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what you think is a stupid discussion actually helps us learn and prepare for other similarly-explained nonsensical feedbacks

grand haven
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I think what I learned from this is to just ignore all the dumb feedbacks

clear stump
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you learned something at least

grand haven
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true

hearty plaza
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Anything you learn makes you smarter. Regardless of how stupid it is

night talon
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I'm genuinely impressed by how stubborn this moamen dude is

foggy summit
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there are more stubborn people though 🤷

hollow nova
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damn that’s crazy

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f2p can also have “gems and stuff”

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it’s not hard

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sounds like you’re using f2p as an excuse for not being able to prep for race

grand haven
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hello mc

clear stump
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agreed mc

hollow nova
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you can even manage without tasks, i don't have tasks/surveys and i manage fine

foggy summit
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yeah i agree

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gem dungeons and daily missions already give like 90 gems a week

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plus you can do book collections and get gems from bh and mazes, mini events like rune lords and also daily calendar

clear lagoon
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@pure sigil there are gold rune chests in the team shop

pure sigil
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They should add gold runes in those chests

clear lagoon
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trust me no one wants gold runes in those chests

heady ivy
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Yeah no one does

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It's the main reason why they weren't there from the start

slim sedge
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imagine opening a 3-10 rune chest and getting a level 9 gold rune

clear lagoon
slim sedge
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I wouldn't

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because then I'd have to hope it doesn't turn into a level 8 gold rune

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and knowing my luck WickahRound

serene hawk
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your points are literally so flawed LaughP

clear stump
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@olive kettle explain please. We already fuse relics to craft them and level them up

orchid lodge
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He might be referring to fusing abilities with some special recipe or somethin idk

orchid lodge
hearty plaza
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@fading briar Hindi isnt 12 languages that’s 1

orchid lodge
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my two points still stand 🤨

hearty plaza
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8 out of 12. Most of those are offshoots of each other.

orchid lodge
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the fact that Adventurers, Pupils, Rares and Epics have a stereotype is saddenng

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also how difficult a language is depends on your native language and how similar it is to the foreign language

clear stump
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The feedback channel is not for reporting, discussing or notifying of bugs

slim sedge
serene hawk
slim sedge
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you don't want to get that role

serene hawk
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the role colour was the one that fitted me best lol

clear stump
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what i'll say on that is yes there's stereotypes for each role, but by helping to reinforce those stereotypes you actually create stereotypes for your own role. and not necessarily positive ones trol

clear stump
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@flat otter surveys are not controlled by Socialpoint, they are controlled by TapResearch who have their own terms, conditions and countries they support. As it's not someting SP can change i have removed your idea

flat otter
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Oh well

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Its rlly unfair

clear stump
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surveys are a different experience for everyone

flat otter
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But social point can talk with tapsearch to support ?

clear stump
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Its tapresearchs choice which countries they provide support for. Doubt SP will be able to give the middle east a special push

slim sedge
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another idea SP won't implement neobukiapproves

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yours

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why would SP ever give away 1000 gems for free

rain spire
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sounds like “gem grabbing” or however i should put it

clear stump
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@fading briar you are proposing a source of 1000 free gems every week. Think about it. Not balanced at all.

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Plus the amount of times we have had suggestions for a mythic dungeon, an extra hard gem dungeon, or a new gem dungeon as a whole... it might be the thing that gets suggested the most, if not a new source for Lutum.

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And look at that. Cell dungeon idea

hollow nova
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Then don't do them

rain spire
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i mean, at least the zip code tasks arent scams

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well, some now take you to chrome

hearty plaza
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@clear stump stereotypes in general are messed up.

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And 1,000 gems a month would send the cost of everything up. That’s not a fix at all

rain spire
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pretty much every server’s general chat are messed up

hearty plaza
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That’s true. I’m in... three servers. So idk

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I want in game general chat back. That was amazing

clear stump
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I feel like this is gonna be a ratio

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Yes, keep trying

hearty plaza
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Never knew what you would read in general

orchid lodge
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no need to mention it again in here

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that doesnt correlate to what I said

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Hm, I would rather you elaborate.

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Consider the message that was previous to the aforementioned message.

hearty plaza
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Who you talking to

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@orchid lodge

clear stump
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Prob Moamen

hearty plaza
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Better not be me

opal gust
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It was me, however I deleted my comments. So I wasn't being repetitive.

clear stump
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Ahh ok

hearty plaza
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I never understood that. Being repetitive is Litteraly the only reason things get done with SP. they don’t care about one post with 20 likes. They care about 2,000 posts with 30+ likes.

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That’s how everything works.

orchid lodge
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a repeated idea doesn’t guarantee it’s good if it doesn’t consider SP’s own capabilities and thought process as well as possible consequences

a repeated feedback, while can sometimes be of factors out of SP’s control (such as luck) or features intended for a purpose (ex: Event being difficult), it’ll most likely be concentrated on one core problem

slim sedge
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bruh

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1000 gems weekly is a terrible idea

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with the influx of gems SP will make things more expensive

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and then new players suddenly can't do anything

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they will

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otherwise people could just not care about things

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and just blast the gems away, since they're gonna get more

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also

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people wouldn't buy gems

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because why would they?

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so SP loses money

clear lagoon
slim sedge
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there is no fathomable reason as to why SP would add that

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ever

grand haven
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what are we discussing

slim sedge
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all it would do it lose them money

slim sedge
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but they could have more

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so why wouldn't they

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also you should see how much whales spend on gems

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it won't

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I'm doing just fine with my gems

grand haven
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bruh the 1000 gems idea is already removed

slim sedge
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bruh

grand haven
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why are we discussing this further

slim sedge
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why did he even bring it up again

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you don't

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if the rules weren't in place I would've said a lot more than I have currently

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why would SP ever make themselves lose money

grand haven
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Can I just ask the obvious question of how hard and how long is this dungeon

slim sedge
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bruh

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SP is a company

grand haven
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because like if it's level 200 doomsday with level X rune then it makes sense

slim sedge
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obviously they want money

slim sedge
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no

grand haven
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answer the question, how long and how hard is the dungeon

slim sedge
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why wouldn't SP maximise the money gotten from a game

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that's the whole point of a company

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to make money

grand haven
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that's not specific

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be more specific

slim sedge
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no, they would just do this stupid dungeon and never buy any

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losing SP money

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like removing it?

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good idea

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it doesn't matter how much they earn

grand haven
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How does the dungeon work

slim sedge
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in fact, the more they earn the better for them

grand haven
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how many nodes

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how hard are the monsters

slim sedge
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bruh

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SP wants more money

grand haven
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answer the question I gave you, how many nodes

slim sedge
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why can't you see that

clear lagoon
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the main goal of a business is to maximise profit

grand haven
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bruh

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the dungeons

slim sedge
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there is NO reason for them to lessen the amount of money gotten

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you wert

grand haven
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and how hard will it be

slim sedge
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anyway let's all leave this off at the idea being a stupid one that SP has no reason at all to implement

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goodbye

grand haven
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the entire thing is doable?

slim sedge
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dead chat don't bother carrying this pointless back and forth on

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we all know it's a bad idea

grand haven
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nah i wanna see how it could work

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so lemme make an example

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if i make a new account right now

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get a level 20 prince charmless

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i can get 1000 gems per week

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well that's definitely broken

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what rarity then

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legendary, mythic?

clear lagoon
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common

grand haven
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where does it start to get harder

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how "last"

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last 20 nodes? 30?

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mythics only start appearing at node 60?

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No stamina limitation

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Do the legendaries go up with each node

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like level 120, 125, 130, 135

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I'm talking max 130

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now

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what about 150 then

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what runes, what relics

slim sedge
grand haven
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nah they're not gonna accept some lackluster idea like that

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I need details

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so that i can cross one off the bingo board

slim sedge
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this wert is so lucky that the rules are in place

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otherwise I would've absolutely berated them by now

grand haven
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alright, i could see this work

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once per year

slim sedge
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once per century*

grand haven
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per year is already generous

slim sedge
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in fact

grand haven
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at the start of each year you get free 1000 gems

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that you can save and spend

slim sedge
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make it only available for people who played the game in the year 2012

grand haven
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no, 1000 per year is more than enough

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anything more than that just means you're impatient

slim sedge
#

1000 per year is way too generous tbh

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maybe like, 500

grand haven
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you can get maximum like 72 per week no?

slim sedge
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or do what SP does and do 100 gems but you have to work for it

grand haven
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if you play the gem dungeons

slim sedge
wicked bluff
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1000 gems per week? That is no steal, that’s a literal heist

grand haven
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if you save up for a year you can get, 72 * 52

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let's see

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i'm lazy

slim sedge
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so is moamen

grand haven
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3744 gems per year

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if you don't spend it all on events

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or spend any

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which means no race and no tales

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not to mention you can get even more gems through BH at the end of each month

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let's say hypothetically you gain 100 gems per BH, that's another 1200 gems

slim sedge
grand haven
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so per year, with no race or tales, and with enough patience, you can get 4944 gems

wicked bluff
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100 gems are possible without exploiting. You can get around 100-400 gems if you try hard enough.

grand haven
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so 1000 gems per week dungeon is unneccessary

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I rest my case

wicked bluff
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What?

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Bro, 1000 gems to maintain balance. Sonnorsmallconcern

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If that’s balanced, then Tales would cost at least 12k to get a R0

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💀

grand haven
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I mean I just said it, 4944 gems per year, under the condition of no race or tales

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which is only maximum 24 monsters missing

wicked bluff
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Yes

grand haven
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then you save up and up and up

wicked bluff
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Bruh

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Typical Moamen momento

grand haven
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well I've proven that the idea of the mega gem dungeon is unneccessary

slim sedge
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you have

grand haven
slim sedge
grand haven
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Just don't convince them

signal lance
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I have the best idea in the world

grand haven
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I don't need another argument in the discussion channel

grand haven
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that's already off the board

slim sedge
hollow nova
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have you heard of hyperinflation

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basic 👏 economics 👏

wicked bluff
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Mc not Pikachu anymore

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😔

hollow nova
grand haven
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next thing I'm gonna see is gonna be squirtle CCSolarflare

rain spire
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nah its gonna be a magikarp

hollow nova
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no it will be not pokemon neobukiapproves

clear lagoon
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digimon 👀

serene hawk
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Sonnorsmallconcern economics moment

serene hawk
serene hawk
grand haven
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moamen has way too ambitious of a dream, a dream that many would call stupid WickahRound

serene hawk
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it's sort of admirable, tho it's hella unrealistic

orchid lodge
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did @fading briar really just try to argue to give people the opportunity to receive 1000 gems from a dungeon, not considering how it would effect the value of gems, the profits of SP, and impact on the events Sonnorsmallconcern

  • Even being the hardest dungeon ever, people will beat it
  • As gems are now easier to obtain, it'll heavily impact their use, making them an easy pickings for mazes (during offers when you can buy maze coins with gems), tales (obvious reasons), marathons (many skips), and bounty hunts (stamina buying made easy).
  • As their influx increases, their value decreases, it's basic economics. You can't assume that SP won't adjust it so you can buy more gems from packs but everything will cost more gems in general.
  • SocialPoint would rather not remove a portion of what drives people to perform Tasks, Surveys, Golden Legends Pass and Pack Deals. You need to stop thinking this through your own selfish ways and think of if the company, the one that needs money to function, would actually do this idea that would lose them money
  • With gems to splurge, the time-aspect of monster legends (buildings, breeding, etc.) might as well not exist, as their purpose is to make you either wait it out or use/buy gems to speed it up. This is nullified, making time-based speed up prices skyrocket or become obsolete.
  • I can literally buy powerful runes if I wait a few weeks did you think this through?
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  • You can't assume that SP makes most of their money from one source, they make their money through many sources, and to cut that off would be disastrously to their income, making the game worse through more-gem-costing events, or literally worse as they lay off staff
  • The game becomes extremely boring
hollow nova
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basically, moamen needs a crash course in economics

hollow nova
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Again, if you have a basic understanding of economics, you will know why giving people 1000 gems is terrible

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You can get 700 or so per month completely free

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I'm not

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It honestly sounds like you are unable to earn and save your gems wisely

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Legit isn't

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I am f2p

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I'm not a 'heavy grinder' either

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I'm not?

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You don't even know my ML details

rain spire
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said the guy who wants a 1000 gem dungeon

foggy summit
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what happens is everyone gets 1000 gems, which ends up with sp getting less money and the price of everything will just go up

rain spire
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that doesnt balance anything WickahRound

foggy summit
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you cannot give 1000 gems to everyone without raising the price of everything

hollow nova
foggy summit
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sp will not listen

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because only a few people want that idea

hollow nova
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Bruh

foggy summit
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that's basic economics

hollow nova
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I’m sorry, you’re arguing like an 11 year old

foggy summit
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you can't report them for that

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also a lawsuit for a mobile game is 🤷

rain spire
#

going off topic here but i was thinking that a dungeon will be randomly chosen to give an extra reward or a boost up prize at the end of a dungeon

foggy summit
#

it just depends on how much the boost is

hollow nova
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In real life, if everyone has lots of money, people can afford more. Prices of things need to be raised in order to meet supply/demand.

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Apply the concept to the game

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Not hard

rain spire
foggy summit
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Also @fading briar unfortunately the only way to get a new talent is by waiting a few months until it's free

foggy summit
hollow nova
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You don’t even need to grind pass to get talents

radiant oriole
hollow nova
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I don’t even try hard with pass points and i manage every time to get pass

rain spire
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so….

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whats your excuse

foggy summit
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yeah pass talents are usually accessible to f2p once a few months have gone by

radiant oriole
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You can literally progress the pass if you normally play the game, and even then, if you do one or two "special" quests, you get considerably boostedWickahRound

hollow nova
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Sorry if this sounds blunt, but it sounds like you just need to get better. You’re a student, I get that. But maybe you should start looking at ML as something more casual, or look for new games

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ML doesn’t seem like a game that fits your lifestyle

foggy summit
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you can get talents f2p when the monster releases because it is a dungeon

rain spire
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umm where do you get smite talent

foggy summit
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chi

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i mean lord

rain spire
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oh so thats how

radiant oriole
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The paid pass just gives you the monster earlier before it goes free in future events and goes like. Like how Lord Nebotus was in the breeding event

rain spire
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i got mines WickahRound

hollow nova
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If your studies are super important to you, find a more casual game that doesn’t require loads of time and effort

foggy summit
hollow nova
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You can’t just have stuff spoonfed to you in ML

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You need to work for it

radiant oriole
rain spire
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and to keep in reminder, dont sue sp, thats a dumb idea

hollow nova
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Or in life

radiant oriole
rain spire
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havent heard of that one

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dont know much about talents so get someone else to help you

wicked bluff
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Skill Mirror unnecessary? Hold up, what?

foggy summit
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oh they added talents to legends pass

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anyway you can just remove skill mirror

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but i didnt realize it was only for legends pass but i guess you'll just have to deal with it

rain spire
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Beambot, Chuckle, Akunobuki, Chi, Spek, Stal, Vastus, and every other PER or Pierce user: Pathetic

wicked bluff
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Skill mirror ain’t that harmful tbh, if ur looking for an example of broken P2P talent then look nowhere else at Spear of Destiny

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And?

rain spire
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also if a monster’s skill said “removes Pierce from itself” after it used and that monster has PEP, does it still removes the pierce effect?

hollow nova
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Could be bugged, don’t see why it matters

slim sedge
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yes please

slim sedge
clear stump
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I regret reading the above.

hollow nova
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It be like that hey

orchid lodge
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@fading briar if you don't give a challenge to obtaining something, what value does it have? (if you're dense enough to not know this is a rhetorical question, the answer is very low)
It's kinda like hacking, sure it's fun and all but the novelty wears off very quickly
and this is assume they change nothing else to accommodate the hyperinflation

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giving the user everything is bad game design in general (it's like game design 101)

foggy summit
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@rancid cargo i believe they skip those numbers intentionally

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i believe they are monsters that are scrapped

orchid lodge
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  1. your idea doesn't suggest anything within that capacity (basically you're way overblown)
  2. if you truly cared, you'd binge for it
  3. this game doesn't revolve around you, if you dont have the free time, then dont play the game, or dont participate in said events and play the game humbly
foggy summit
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Also you do say you have to study often, so you should probably be paying more attention to that rather than a mobile game

orchid lodge
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exactly

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then do exactly that
if you lose out on a monster, so be it

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and if it helps, the monster will appear again in 2 eras regardless

clear stump
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This game is not a gacha game

clear stump
orchid lodge
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also referring to a majority, not a select few so in general, 2 eras is a safe bet

clear stump
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Within 2 eras yeah, in 2 eras makes it sound like we have to wait a full 2 eras before it can possibly happen lol. For monster shop and cell shop yeah

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But breeding events... I mean we had xiron already, albeit bugged 😅😂

orchid lodge
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xiron is a mistake (literally, it was unintentional)

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you can also playtest them in an era (Grand Duels) and stays around for another (Classic Duels)

foggy summit
rancid cargo
#

I pretty much agree with Wallnut, it's the season duration's idea

rancid cargo
clear stump
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perhaps tell us his allies

slim sedge
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Ancient Cloak exists

rancid cargo
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Ancient Cloak, duh

foggy summit
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i wouldnt pay more money for mediocre denier

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nanovirus is pretty nice though

signal lance
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Do us a favor and you know check what the monster is running before you go with accusations

signal lance
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Let me re-word it then

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Do us a favor and check what the monster is running before calling it a Hack

serene hawk
clear stump
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NinjaCya forgot about Sir Valgar existing

rain spire
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so…

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anyone likes my idea?

wicked bluff
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Eh, pretty cool idea.

hollow nova
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Find a different game

rain spire
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cookie run kingdom neobukiapproves

hollow nova
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bloons monkey city neobukiapproves

clear lagoon
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roblox phantom forces neobukiapproves

clear stump
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The offtopic channel meapprove

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For real though, I do think you might prefer something single-player, a game that has a real-time global multiplayer, or something you can play with a group of friends. A Nintendo Switch is good for that.

grand haven
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Bot approaching

clear stump
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Such as the bot right there, who was muted and his message was removed.

wicked bluff
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Oh yeah, there’s an idea of adding Slow/Haste back

clear stump
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i know

hearty plaza
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What the is a roblox

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Hello @clear stump

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Long time no talk buddy!

clear stump
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Hi lol

hearty plaza
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😏

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Couple minutes or so

clear stump
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👀

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Only been a few hours I am sure. lol

hearty plaza
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Question. Is there an issue with 50% chance of killing enemy skills?

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Oh yeah two look at that

clear stump
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Wdym issue?

hearty plaza
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I’ve had 12 land in a row.

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In PvP

clear stump
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Lol wow. Keep trying it, that's some really good luck

hearty plaza
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Figured I’d ask

hearty plaza
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@karmic fable I don’t do grand duels. I’m talking arena.

signal lance
hearty plaza
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@signal lance I hit 17 straight missed one and was on a 4 streak before I got off. Also breed the water monster twice ina row on mountain. Had some extras in between

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On the tree

signal lance
topaz pine
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@wraith spear I though of that months ago and submitted it but it would be nice for them to add codes

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press ctrl+F and type in monster legends codes to find mine

slim sedge
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moamen being werted again

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posted an essay in feedback channel insulting the devs

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as if that'll make them do anything WickahRound

weary plank
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forgot to mention...what is up with rares ...it's been a while and still, rares take too long to breed/ hatch....i think it's time to let them go
"i think it's time to let them go"

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did this person just ask for rares to be removed or

signal lance
weary plank
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R5 Rhodent pro OMGSiamiss

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I need to hatch mine

rain spire
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r5 pandaken pro neobukiapproves

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better than his pure self

slim sedge
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if you get 1000 r5 pandakens you get a Sensei Pandaken for free neobukiapproves

wise surge
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But only if you buy half of the Pandakens needed from the shop for 60 gems

karmic fable
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80 gems

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60 gems are for greenasaur

serene hawk
signal lance
serene hawk
foggy summit
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Found messages that show that he was probably banned

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I got his point of view but this really is for the better 🤷 He will find another game that will suit him

foggy summit
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I heard he insulted devs or something

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Not very cool Sonnorban

serene hawk
grand haven
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aw man moamen was banned

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jk

foggy summit
grand haven
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thanks, I made it myself neobukiapproves

foggy summit
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😎😎

hearty plaza
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He was annoying. But when there’s so much maturity in one place folks start talking about those that are gone 🤡

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Def got banned though. Maybe kicked.

foggy summit
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I think he was banned since his messages were completely deleted

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Probably temporary though

hearty plaza
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Yeah isa wasn’t too thrilled

orchid lodge
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@potent wyvern Trading ideas are banned due to the natural of their inevitable susceptibility to exploitation
Picture this: Every account gets a free 100 gems. Someone can just make dupe accounts to get those rewards and tunnel it to the one main account. Not to mention monster-cells, food, and gold

potent wyvern
orchid lodge
karmic fable
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pangoliath event again

grand haven
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@compact geode Devil's Fruit exists

compact geode
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That not efficient at all in rusd

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Except you use resurrector aka only visiel for now

grand haven
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No?

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It just heals at the start of the turn

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The double healing is the part where you need someone to die

clear stump
clear stump
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someone remind me, which pass is spiteful? was it Chi Ao Loong pass?

slim sedge
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yes?

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that sounds right

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might've been Lord Nebo's pass

foggy summit
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Spiteful was in Pure Pandalf's pass I believe

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I can't find anything on it nvm

rain spire
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@violet current ideas involving new adventure map islands are banned

violet current
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Why

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@rain spire why

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Well if so many people suggested it why don’t they change it

rain spire
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sp is too sp

violet current
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Who’s sp

rain spire
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besides dont even expect they will check the channel or have care towards their fans

rain spire
violet current
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Oh

rain spire
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because sp is too careless to their fans and just stick with new monsters and events instead of paying attention to anything else

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most of them were dungeons and adventure

orchid lodge
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why do you want a new adventure map anyways?

violet current
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Why wouldn’t we want one

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Free food

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Levels

rain spire
orchid lodge
rain spire
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eh not really important to me

violet current
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No u really don’t

orchid lodge
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like the roulette wheel of the Tales Dungeon LaughP

rain spire
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Bounty Hunt

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Maze (kinda)

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Monsterwood with food

violet current
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Wth is a bounty hunt

rain spire
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are you new to this game?

orchid lodge
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hes clearly new to this game

violet current
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Last time I played was 3 years ago

rain spire
#

right…

rain spire
orchid lodge
clear stump
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because the volunteers that run these channels, who arent affiliated with SP, are trying to create a more streamlined process that doesnt involve submitting and repeatedly voting upon the same thing multiple times 😅

violet current
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Yeah but I played the game for a while

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So Ik a lot about it

rain spire
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lets not forgot some dummy thought helen is a sp member in bounty hunt channel

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anyways back to drawing

night talon
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@urban roost it's been suggested in every channel lol subkit ideas,bugs reporting,bugs text and now this

urban roost
jade sparrow
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i got 7 mythics in a day from last BH

rain spire
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@halcyon jungle and @fleet palm discuss ideas here next time

rain spire
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@subtle ruin discuss ideas here

subtle ruin
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oh mb

serene hawk
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WickahRound waiting for the moment when you realise isa can't ban

serene hawk
jolly ginkgo
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It would be nice if we can swap or unequip runes with gold

clear stump
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I mean both were wrong... I didn't ban him, and I didn't mute him permanently. Just temporary enough so he was banned.

clear stump
jolly ginkgo
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I mean of different levels

clear stump
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Thats just being overly technical and slightly pedantic, Milsugi. The clear distinction here is that I do not have the power to ban. I cannot ban anyone and I didn't ban Moamen. Simple.

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@jolly ginkgo you have already put it in the feedback channel, it doesn't need submitting as an idea too. 😊

jolly ginkgo
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Ok(✷‿✷)

clear stump
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its funny bc he himself is now beaned

signal lance
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@carmine niche few things to note.

  1. Those go in #monster-ideas
  2. What will the Warlords do? Because I do not want to see anything that even comes close to resembling OG Thalassa
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Thats still a leak and we know next to nothing about her so I'll let her slide for now

serene hawk
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true

orchid lodge
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Nigel doesn’t know nervouschamless

rain spire
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shhh dont tell them

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now i must disappear to break my phone because of cupid getting his mythic form but goldfield didnt got his

rain spire
jade sparrow
#

mythic elvira was apparently leaked

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cant wait to see what she looks like

rain spire
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i bet barbael is shaking when he sees that name

jade sparrow
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imagine tho she was actually just really bad

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like pipershock

night talon
golden pollen
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omg here too

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no one click it

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its a scam

rain spire
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clickity clickity pandalftroll

golden pollen
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no no

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they all say the same thing

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even the past ones workerstare

clear stump
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Alright, moving on

golden pollen
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yay

hearty plaza
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@clear stump so you directly were involved with banning 🤨

clear stump
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Doesn't mean I banned

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Mods got sick of a person, saw I muted him, acted upon it

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Lol

orchid lodge
#

Godly sure does want Grak for extra dmg

clear lagoon
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godly really wants mythical totem

clear stump
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"Pandalf devs"

rain spire
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i prefer pandafest devs

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pandalf’s cousin better

foggy summit
#

Super pandalf devs 🤔

verbal notch
verbal notch
serene hawk
#

go get your ice-cream and hamburger already

verbal notch
verbal notch
jovial plover
#

Adventure map is so rigged up until level 440 it's all good they have normal level 4 runes and are ok. But when u get to level 441 they all of a sudden have diamond relics and like like runes. Start off a bit slower, instead of just jumping to like diamond relics. Maybe start with like silver of bronze. They also just keep healing themselves. It's so annoying

slim sedge
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nodes 440-460 have been added separately

weary plank
clear stump
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Nodes up until 440 were all added during Legendary era, where the power creep wasn't nearly half as fast as it is now. Nodes 440 and up came after the advent of Mythics, who have the potential to simply destroy all Legendaries. Given they're the final nodes, surely they must be more than just a walk in the park.

orchid lodge
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@autumn geyser you don't get 2 gems per dollar what

clear stump
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I am also very confused about such rates

autumn geyser
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On discount. 50$ gets 1200

clear stump
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you're allowed to put more than one idea if they're all in separate messages, sentri

orchid lodge
clear stump
autumn geyser
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Usa

clear stump
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Because either way that's still a long way off from 2 gems per dollar

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that's more like 20 per dollar at a bare minimum

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lol

orchid lodge
autumn geyser
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Yes math was wrong

orchid lodge
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not to mention tasks

autumn geyser
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It's alot when u talking 20,000

orchid lodge
clear stump
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Plus, race is an event where you can cut down on costs a much as possible by preparing in advance and distributing rewards evenly. If a team is spending 20k gems between them I'd expect them all to get a rank 3 monster each or thereabouts, which is actually really good. 20k divided over 30 members comes up as some 700 gems, which covers 1 major skip and helping in a bunch of big tasks 🤔

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If you are spending 20k just doing 10 laps alone, that's an individual issue that you need to take steps to fix. I don't even know if that's possible, spending 20k in 10 laps or less.

autumn geyser
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Ok

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I just think gems should be In the rewards.

clear stump
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I don't understand why you think gems must be rewarded back though? Surely the monster, the eggs, the key, chest, avatar, food etc are all worthwhile.

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And "in rewards", which rewards? Lap, individual or position?

#

Playing devil's advocate here 🙂

autumn geyser
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Gems are the money on game

orchid lodge
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very english

clear stump
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Yes, this is one of the ideas of all time

autumn geyser
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If gems were rewards more people would buy them in long run better rewards more money game generated

clear stump
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You're paying to obtain the monster among many other rewards, why should there be a "rebate"?

clear stump
orchid lodge
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if you're working towards gems with gems, isnt that kinda worthless

autumn geyser
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Money makes the world go as so gems would motivate people

clear stump
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There's a lot of questions you can ask about this one

slim sedge
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spending tons of gems on race is optional though

clear stump
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It's not like gems are hard to obtain

autumn geyser
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No if u are an adult

slim sedge
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gems are easy to obtain as long as you have basic ml knowledge

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buying them is optional

autumn geyser
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It was just a thought

clear stump
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A 13 year old player and a 99 year old player get given the same dungeons, same daily goals etc if they are same level

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keep playing and you will unlock more ways to gain them

orchid lodge
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I'd rather breeze through gold fever and get 25 gems then wait a week for potential gems thats dependant on my team, not guarenteed, and requires gems to reach the high laps

autumn geyser
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I spend about 5k per race my whole team is at a point where we are just going to settle. So my idea was add gems more people buy gems to get gems

clear stump
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Plus idk if you're talking like 200 gems to one player or 25 to the whole team, what lap is it

autumn geyser
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40-45

rain spire
#

woah

clear stump
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5k is absurdly high for one player

autumn geyser
#

Yes mam

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It was a thought

clear stump
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I can understand why you'd want a gem return of sorts but it sounds more of an individual issue, you're Epic, perhaps set minimum rules up in your team and ways to manage such

autumn geyser
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How about some extra lutum

signal lance
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I fell like there is a team issue if a SINGLE player is spending 5k gems per race

slim sedge
#

I'd expect at least 85 laps

clear lagoon
slim sedge
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I feel like you're being used for your gems

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if you spend 5k a race for 40 laps

autumn geyser
#

Yes we are working on it

orchid lodge
clear stump
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"More ways to get lutum" or "corrupted era survival/titan dungeon for lutum" are both heavily suggested here

autumn geyser
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Ok cool

orchid lodge
signal lance
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I'll just say this. If your spending 5k gems to get to lap 40 or 45 I highly suggest joining other teams since then you would get an R5 monster (I think)

autumn geyser
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I have thought about it

clear stump
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I can provide some suggestions if you choose to go ahead, DM me any time.

autumn geyser
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And thought of just buying the monster

clear stump
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Ew no

slim sedge
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oh god just

clear stump
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😂

slim sedge
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join a team that won't abuse you and your gems

orchid lodge
slim sedge
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please

clear stump
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Saying you're considering purchasing a bad offer is like a cardinal sin

clear stump
orchid lodge
clear stump
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Era Shop offers race monster for real money during race

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lol

orchid lodge
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me when 19.99 for unranked monster

autumn geyser
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I loved the talk. It felt like I was talking to important people

clear stump
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I'll take that as a compliment 🤣

rain spire
orchid lodge
clear stump
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Meeeee.

autumn geyser
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No I got it through race

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U

rain spire
clear stump
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lol

autumn geyser
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Maybe take the breeding epic and ledgendary out. Lol

clear stump
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they are a pain yes but we have had instances before where they have been "randomly" completed

autumn geyser
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Yes rank up

clear stump
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for example in the last race we had a breed 6 epics task going, that got completed easily 😬

autumn geyser
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Afo or je

clear stump
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Ranking tasks are the bane of my existence uncanny

clear stump
autumn geyser
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Yes

clear stump
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One member to do the task for all

rain spire
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epic ofa is pain CCsadNoahgnarok

autumn geyser
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Must have a solid breeding stragery

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I was just playing

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It's just u see it and it's basically a skip

clear stump
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Pogey Gimme.

autumn geyser
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So you see gems are not my issue. Just got some