ideas-feedback-discussion

[signal lance]

Timeline changes are basically unfixable

If they change it to another time then that means one get the convenience while the other doesn't so then the ones who don't get the convenience start to say to change it and the cycle continues

[lean kelp]

And im pretty sure changing it to fit into the school times of one country is a terrible idea since its just gonna cause confusion

And as you said privilege for one inconvenience for another

[signal lance]

Yup

So unless they make a server specifically for a set time for EVERY country and somehow funnel every player to their respective country its basically impossible to fix it

[glacial dragon]

@uncut crater you know, for me, 30% maze discount is at 2am ... and in Daylight Savings, 3am ... you're right, it's crap that it's only on once... they should do it twice, about 8 hours apart, so people on the other side of the world can not miss out... but imo, they just don't care. You want it at a different time? Pay more money and you won't need it.

imo, putting another 30% window 8 hours after the first would both give a benefit for those on the other side of the world (or, in school as you say), as well as not being so far apart as to allow people to gain copious coins and do both of them (you would only get 450 more coins between the two times)... but yeah, not going to happen I think

[orchid lodge]

@slim bough respond here

[slim bough]

Okay

[lean kelp]

Also pretty sure it does only 45k at r4 even with the vulnerable boost

Since it does 30k base damage iirc

And then 60k base damage at r5

[slim bough]

Yeah, 30k at r4 so 45k with vuln

[clear stump]

what is it r5 tho

[signal lance]

I think you guys should know that Snitch brands damage happens AFTER Vulnerable is applied

[signal lance]

Another joke feedback

[torn apex]

your

[glad apex]

is it just me or does other team leaders also think that we should have a decline all button

[lean kelp]

60k base damage, technically 90k since it applies Vulnerable then doe the damage

[signal lance]

So in reality it does good damage

[lean kelp]

Only at r5

[rain spire]

what the hell is tempest’s feedback

[lean kelp]

A joke

To get a bunch of downvotes for some reason

[grand haven]

Why do we need 30?

You only need 20 to finish the beast dungeon, 18 for gem dungeons, 8 for food and gold and 10 for survival dungeon

[cursive pelican]

"Adventure map will be easy to play"
Probably just a random rushing adventure map then

[late oyster]

It's irritating when it finishes so early

[grand haven]

if you're impatient, it is

[late oyster]

Yeah I am impatient 😔

[clear stump]

Last i checked ML is not a speed run of how good can you get in a month

[glad apex]

It is

[tranquil forge]

i just realized that

lol

[glad apex]

But sometimes i have to lower mp

[clear stump]

If you want to play it as an MP Bloating Simulator then good for you, you're the only entrant in your category

[rain spire]

Dream Speedrunning ML when

[slim sedge]

never

[cursive pelican]

Also isa if u didn't see that in submit-ideas I pinged u for a scam link and deleted it when they got banned

Sorry for the ghost ping

[rain spire]

I honestly think we should be able to lock pets. On the top right of the monster where you feed it, there's a lock. When you click it the sell button dissappears you can't sell it until you unlock it.

Im sorry….

wut

[grand haven]

He meant a button so you don't accidentally sell monsters

[clear stump]

Which has already been suggested before.

[grand haven]

yes

[orchid lodge]

how in gods world do you accidently sell a monster

[clear stump]

I've done it before

[dense quail]

Yknow when that one friend who you handed your phone to because he told you he wanted to call his family as his phone died but and accidentally sell a monster or two while going through the process

[clear stump]

Hit Sell when I thought I was hitting Move, then hit No when I wanted yes

Discobolus woeisme

[dense quail]

Also yes I've accidentally sold a monster before I just wrote to support and before I knew support existed I crafted with resources 🗿

[grand haven]

y'know instead of making dumb surveys they could do the very obvious thing that is to read the god damn feedbacks

all of the problems the community has is right there

[clear lagoon]

they prob do read it but usually the management team are the ones to decide on what to focus on/fix

[clear stump]

Sox, thus has been suggested before and can be easily abused

[signal lance]

Also like if they change the time for 1 countries benefit doesn't that mean that another country gets stuck with the short end of the stick?

And if so then players in that country come here and make ideas to change it again and the cycle repeats

[clear stump]

There's always gonna be someone who gets messed over by the discount time, if you shift it then you're not exactly helping many people and to make it based on a users time is easily abused

[restive jetty]

can always have 2 discounts 12 hrs apart

[clear stump]

That'd be nice but still, what times would it be?

[signal lance]

Then like wouldn't there still be some people who can't get them?

[restive jetty]

same time as now, just another one in 12 hrs

[clear stump]

If you choose, say, 6am and 6pm UTC then some are still unable to do it - for people in the US that'd probably be around 12am and 12pm... people are sleeping, and at work/school at those times

[karmic fable]

What if there is just one whole day that is one big discount?

[signal lance]

So people still get screwed over by it

[karmic fable]

I mean surely that would help

[clear stump]

It's probably be a bit busted.

[karmic fable]

Eh might be

[restive jetty]

less than now i would think

[signal lance]

I mean there is one way I can think of how they can solve the Maze discount problem but it isn't good by any means

[clear stump]

We're all ears.

[karmic fable]

Unless maybe 1 discount every 2 hours?

[signal lance]

I don't think it would be less if anything it would be the same

[karmic fable]

Or 1 discount every 3 hours

But for only one day

[restive jetty]

how would it be same, someone gets it at 2 am now, with a 12 hr gap gets it at 2 pm.

[signal lance]

They could make a dedicated server for every region that ML is allowed in the problem lies in the time and money it will take. They would have to pay for the new servers, Find every player and move them to their respective time zone (All we could know something might mess up and some lose their account) and then once they do that (probably will take around a year or two) they then have to deal with the insane cost of having to pay for the servers

[signal lance]

Ever heard of a job?

[restive jetty]

time to quit playing then, go work

[signal lance]

Like many work 9-5 jobs so even then they still would miss it

[karmic fable]

Im sure something like 1 30% discount every 3 or 4 hours would work, pretty sure that should cover all timezones

[clear stump]

Probably a bit too much. 6h would definitely be nice

[signal lance]

30% every 6 hours would ascend me

[clear stump]

I know if I had discounts at 2am, 2pm I wouldnt be able to access them. Lol

[karmic fable]

Ok then every 5 or 6 hours

[signal lance]

But then we have to consider inflation if they ever do this

[karmic fable]

?

Wdym by inflation

[signal lance]

Because a discount will happen every 6 hours its only natural that SP will make the Maze more expensive

And that would most likely make players hate them

[clear lagoon]

or you can just give everyone a 30% discount token when maze starts which lasts an hour, that they can activate whenever they want

also maze discount starts at 5am for me... FeelsOCEMan

[grand haven]

lmao I wake up at those times everyday

unfortunately

my discount time starts at 11pm

[clear lagoon]

OCE always gets the short end of the stick, in pretty much most games

[grand haven]

east asia gets the short end of the stick due to being almost the exact opposite of american time zones

[clear lagoon]

true

good thing its a spanish game

i think

[clear stump]

Whats OCE

Oceana?

[karmic fable]

Yeah oce is Oceania

[clear stump]

Nice, I am pro at guessing

[rain spire]

doubt

[clear stump]

If Beasts were in War/PVP from the start of the era, I'd be fine with it. However adding them post-halfway in an era (we're coming up to halfway, i'd assume, start of S4 race being that mark) kind of belittles any other player who chose not to waste time by investing in them when Single Player Modes are easy enough as is - enabling them in PvP suddenly gives huge advantages to the P2W player who took them to rank 5.

[lean aspen]

woah we're already almost halfway through the metro era?

[slim sedge]

metro era gonna end when we get 70ish monsters in the era book

[clear stump]

Eras seem to last 6 4-week periods, and given we're just under 10 weeks in I wouldn't be surprised if it does end after 24 weeks

[rain spire]

idk why, but to me, every season feels like that it ends in 2 secs in the metro era while a week in the cosmic era and corrupted era lasts longer than that

[orchid lodge]

6 seasons, a month per season?

[clear stump]

28 days isn't a full month, so

[clear stump]

very glad corrupt era is already over but so sad cosmic ended

[rain spire]

i feel bad for both of them

[orchid lodge]

isn’t it 30 days per season?

[clear stump]

No...

Note how every race, maze, bounty hunt sarts on a friday

legends pass too

4 weeks

[orchid lodge]

k

[rain spire]

does that applied to the previous eras or did sp decided to shorten it to 4 weeks

cus i feel like each season ends quickly than the corrupted and cosmic

[lean aspen]

I joined during the King Charmless season and the corrupted era felt like it lasted a LONG time from there (good btw, it was AWESOME)

Metro era just seems to be going by so fast

(metro era is cool too but corrupted is my favorite)

[clear stump]

mythic era seasons have always been 4 weeks

mythic lasted 5 season. cosmic lasted 7 season. corrupt lasted 6

[clever spindle]

cosmic era was bad imo

no lore, no free stuff, no nothing

[clear stump]

Corrupted Era brought many great things like saga and bounty hunt

But the meta for f2p vs p2w was horrendous compared to cosmics where your biggest threat was shelly and your biggest ally was famp, lindworm

[rain spire]

well at least they gave us Chuckel, Steamwrath, MONKE

[clever spindle]

so era is good if they give women and monke

legit

🗿🗿

[rain spire]

if theres monke then its the best era

[clever spindle]

what if climbert in corrupted but thunderkong in cosmic

[clear stump]

Thunderkong vs climbert. We know who is better.

[rain spire]

Battle of the Cousins

[clever spindle]

big head or small head

[rain spire]

Old One vs Newest One

[clever spindle]

also heiss is my man he carried me in cosmic era

[rain spire]

he carried me in multiplayer even in corrupted and metro era

[clever spindle]

same

[rain spire]

wrong channel

lmao

[rain spire]

jesus christ everyone hits this update

[grand haven]

16 new feedbacks in an hour and thirty minutes

really goes to show how screwed up SP did this one

and tbh, they did

but definitely not as bad as some others

[rain spire]

tbh, flooding the channel with hates for the update is one of the thing that sp didnt see it coming

its one of the worst things that sp has done to players

[grand haven]

one of

that's the emphasis

[cursive pelican]

SP rlly screwed up

Hard

[grand haven]

when you post a long feedback and 2 people insta-like it the second it popped up

[cursive pelican]

I don't read feedback

Unless I see 1 or more downvotes

Otherwise I just insta-like

[grand haven]

lovely

[cursive pelican]

[grand haven]

currently 21 feedbacks, 2 of which are mine, and 2 more on the way

[lean kelp]

And yet they still won't change anything about it

They'll just wait for it to blow over and then leave it as is

Like they've done with the majority of terrible changes

[hollow nova]

we are spiralling into insanity in #general-feedback

[grand haven]

and if we rant long enough then the mods will just restrict that feedback

yewns is correct, we should delete everything, and we should only have space for one nature habitat, one monster that's Treezard, and there will be no events, as you can only watch the treezard walk around until the end of time

alright, so we're at stage 3 of grief now? or is this denial?

We're going from Anger -> Denial -> Bargaining, which is a bit weird seeing that it should be Denial -> Anger -> Bargaining

[karmic fable]

@jolly raven i 100% fully agree with your suggestion, except for the 180 monsters part we need them to be level 200

[jolly raven]

I forgot to add we need 4 rounds of monsters per node. Slipped my mind

[karmic fable]

True

And we also need to extend the nodes by 80

Oh and then make it so that we only get 5 cells per 40 nodes

[grand haven]

Welp, we'll be reaching the stage of Acceptance in 8 hours

currently it's both denial and bargaining in one

[jolly raven]

Maybe we start with an Aoe debuff each node. Great idea

[karmic fable]

Omg true

And they gotta make it so that each dungeon node you get every negative single status effect applied to your monsters

[jolly raven]

Tru doesn't mean it's not bad. I have noob players in my team (nice guys) and i know they ain't gonna make it

[karmic fable]

And then they also all have infinite turns till they get removed

[grand haven]

well, if joke feedbacks like these keep happening, then it's sure that SP won't listen now

[cursive pelican]

Yup

[grand haven]

it might be sarcasm but I doubt SP knows what that is

[cursive pelican]

[karmic fable]

Bro sp probably doesnt even gamer

[rain spire]

Plot Twist: SP did this because they want to screw with us to make us leave the game

[grand haven]

yep, we have gone insane

#general-feedback has gone haywire

[karmic fable]

Nah

We are just being smart and making smart suggestions

Like mine

Paying $80 per node is good

[grand haven]

yep, we have gone insane

there has been a total of 41 feedbacks, all about the survival dungeon

[dense quail]

Xd

I'm surprised the bot survived all this treatment

[rain spire]

@summer dust i dont understand your idea

[grand haven]

coming from someone like you, I don't even know if that's sarcasm or not

[dense quail]

XD

It’s sarcasm yes

I just wanted to sound sincere

After typing sp

I won’t be surprised if I get kicked

[grand haven]

they're probably gonna based off of your feedback and not do anything about it

[summer dust]

Instead of doing the nodes one at a time, you select the ones you want to do and it automatically does them for you

[rain spire]

so basically choose some nodes and become lazy

[summer dust]

Yeah

[night talon]

$80 is too little tbh make it a $1k per node

[marsh horizon]

Oh what fools these mortals be

Metro era has just been flushed down the toilet.

[grand haven]

for real

[marsh horizon]

As goes the game play so goes the game

[grand haven]

i like your funny words, magic man

but yeah, the game's gone down the drain

now that the mob has died down, I doubt SP will do anything about it now

[marsh horizon]

Who comes up with these ideas?
Who thought it was a good idea to take top monsters, kit them out with all the best options at a maxed out level and expect normal players who are still somewhere in the 130 to 140 lvl range with a mixture of relics and runes and say here you go. This will work
Work to accomplish what?
If SP was being too generous, just make the dungeon 15 nodes long
It’s what was accomplished
Great game idea, let’s take away resources that we have to grind for every day and make accomplishing game goals even longer.

[grand haven]

it's called not caring for the game you've made

the playerbase may speak up, but it seems SP can't hear

A company server of which the community is the one that speaks up the most, and the actual company doesn't even look at it

how ironic

[marsh horizon]

I look at my stuff, and think what a waste of time and money

[grand haven]

nobody actually asks for an OP monster, SP made it themselves and consequentially raise the standards for a good monster by themselves.

[marsh horizon]

This actually needs to be fixed. Some of the rationales ppl supporting are giving this is not even paying attention to the concerns of players.

Our ability to assemble combat and defense teams should be tested out in pvp, wars, and live duels, not resource dungeons. Resource dungeons you put in the time, you get resources, as your life permits you to invest the time. Then you build up your teams. This change will not allow me to build my choice of monsters up, to better my game, to my enjoyment of the game. Too many monsters, too few resources. SP is penalizing there player base

Their

[signal lance]

I'm sorry but what. I just checked my dungeon and literally the only difference is that relics and runes are now a thing. That's not a bad difference at all. The rewards are still the same so I really cannot understand anything that is coming with the hate

[lean kelp]

Have you played the dungeon or have you just looked at it?

[signal lance]

I'm having a playing through it now

[lean kelp]

Pretty much restricts everyone without high ranked meta monsters and mutant runes to >node 16

And you can't even use 150s so you're gonna get easily outsped at later nodes

[rain spire]

@cunning crag you posted that idea twice

[signal lance]

Yup I see that now

[signal lance]

Now I agree with the complaints

[rain spire]

what the hell is wrong with #general-feedback now

[hardy vector]

lol

just ppl malding about rank up dungeon

in all types of ways

[clear stump]

People posting rubbish 8n there rather than actual feedback.

[rain spire]

@wheat topaz thats not a idea

[rain spire]

everyone said that rank up dungeon is hard but no one remembers infinity gauntlet

[dull bronze]

well that was a long time ago

[rain spire]

if sp does want to make the dungeon harder, they shouldve at least give us better rewards in the dungeon since hard dungeons has better rewards

[orchid lodge]

@karmic fable you mean
"Make a Friends Dungeon to gain various different Era cells, with more recent Eras being more difficult. You can choose a monster to take along with you but you must choose another monster from a friend to venture with you as well."?

[rain spire]

its sad i dont have friends in ml

[karmic fable]

yeah basically i just rushed the typing cuz i was in a rocket league game lol

[trim rock]

Who else is in the 'late survival stage enemy ultimate attack ko' club? 😆

[rain spire]

@next badger read pins

[twin tapir]

I think you all over corrected the difficulty of the rank up survival dungeon. It was managable before but now it's impossible. I tried every combo I could think of and all my available monsters were dead on node 16. I understand it should be difficult but it should still be possible to beat it. With this being the main way to acquire cells, it makes it hard to rank up if we can't finish the dungeon. Please take this into consideration and adjust the difficulty of it. Thanks for your time.

[rain spire]

@tame aspen read pins

[orchid lodge]

It makes it sound like we have to wait until season 6 to finally beat whatever node people are talking about

By my hypothesis, that'd mean that the dungeon would have less use overall and less grinding to rank up said monsters in some vicious cycle

[signal lance]

I mean if I do thing correctly a Slum, Foss/Garn, Attacker team should get you far

[orchid lodge]

i dont know the experience, im not that far yet

[rain spire]

@karmic fable discuss that here

@agile shard thats not allowed in #submit-ideas

@light holly over suggested idea

jesus theres a crap ton of who didnt know a few rules on that channel

[agile shard]

How?

I asked to change dungeon back

[rain spire]

its a suggestion thats probably belongs to #general-feedback

and over suggested ideas are not allow

and read pins as well

and remove that from #submit-ideas fox

[agile shard]

I'm not the only one that repeated the same issue but k whatever

[rain spire]

yeah people do be doing putting repeated ideas

@feral depot

thats probably not allowed in #submit-ideas

actually thats not an idea at all

[rain spire]

@orchid lodge i actually prefer that since mythics always get the attention

[grand haven]

they really thought 'if SP doesn't listen in #general-feedback then we'll storm #submit-ideas'

[rain spire]

they are really werted

[grand haven]

as if #submit-ideas gets more attention than #general-feedback does

[rain spire]

lol

[orchid lodge]

[rain spire]

i do need a neobuki to be r5

[orchid lodge]

i'd be a fun race to see who can get the first (insert number) pages of the Winged Book all to R5

[rain spire]

wrong channel

[safe oriole]

then which shall i go to?

[rain spire]

#ml-general-discussion or #pvp

[safe oriole]

ok

[rain spire]

cant even read the damn channel name

[wicked bluff]

oh no, rank up dungeon impossible 😔

[rain spire]

oh no rank up dungeon so hard must flood feedback and submit ideas

[rain spire]

@spice trout ^^^^^

rank up dungeon change ideas are not allowed

[rain spire]

freaking werts….

@clear stump theres a problem in #submit-ideas

[orchid lodge]

it is technically SP's fault for causing the chaos anyways lmao

[grand haven]

just like how #monster-ideas were abused when the Sir Valgar event arrives, #submit-ideas is getting the same treatment

no respect for rules at all

[rain spire]

@half smelt discuss that here

[orchid lodge]

@patent oasis are you trying to tell the SP to listen to #submit-ideas and #general-feedback...in a #submit-ideas channel

its like telling a deaf person to listen to you

[rain spire]

i was going to said that

or a wert that cant tell the difference of feedback and idea

[orchid lodge]

trick question: one is superior

[rain spire]

hows me idea

[patent oasis]

Seeing the amount of hate the new changes are getting, I figured they would check these channels for once.... But yeah, probably stupid of me..

[orchid lodge]

it's what we call an independent-factor

if they dont see the channel, nothing will change

"It's time to check the channels more because of the channels that I didn't check" how would they know?

[patent oasis]

True..

[rain spire]

so yeah….

just put your “idea” in #general-feedback since its a feedback

[patent oasis]

Oof, hold up

[patent oasis]

Yeah, what's the format?

[rain spire]

dynoed

[patent oasis]

Bruh...

[rain spire]

also what u mean by format

[patent oasis]

Format for sending a message in #general-feedback

[rain spire]

i sorry i dont get it

[orchid lodge]

.suggestion [suggestion]

ignore square brackets

[patent oasis]

Alr, thanks a lot

Now see me mess it up again...

[rain spire]

and add something before starting your feedback like a “.”

[clear stump]

Cleared it all out

[rain spire]

thank you

[rain spire]

@gentle jacinth thats not a idea

that belongs to #general-feedback

[gentle jacinth]

That’s one way to look at it

I am just trying put a word out there in anyway possible

[rain spire]

yeah so remove that from submit ideas

[grand haven]

keep it to #general-feedback, we don't need it in #submit-ideas

[rain spire]

thats what i just said

[grand haven]

yes

[rain spire]

watch as someone else comes and tells the exact same thing

[gentle jacinth]

If that helps to draw an attention, then my purpose is fulfilled

[grand haven]

#submit-ideas gets less attention than #general-feedback

you're only annoying the people that wants to have good ideas

[gentle jacinth]

If you say so

[rain spire]

i feel like its going start a era of dungeon feedbacks

anyway ima go sleep

[clear stump]

the only attention that flooding "revert dungeon" in #submit-ideas will bring is mine. if you want to make a poin then go upvote other feedbacks

[gentle jacinth]

Relax, I have already deleted the post.

[orchid lodge]

you should either
A. Display that you understood
B. Apologize
not
C. Tell the person to calm down

[gentle jacinth]

who are you to set rules here?

[orchid lodge]

it’s etiquette not rules

[gentle jacinth]

The way you say it, it does not seem like a good etiquette

[orchid lodge]

yes, i am not of a administrative position

[orchid lodge]

which part

[gentle jacinth]

Let’s work on that first

[orchid lodge]

🗿

you should be learning this not me

good day, sir

or shall i say, good night

[clear stump]

I'm very aware of that, thank you for removing it. My main issue here is that it didn't need posting at all given yknow... we arebhaving a million of the same thing right now... contributing to it doesn't help 😅 don't want to be an unhappy isabelle lol

[grand haven]

it's been 24 hours, no new updates about survival dungeon

and since the rage has died down

[grand haven]

oh hey the fire is going again

[wicked bluff]

Monkeys dancing in General Feedback.

[clear stump]

Don't know whether to grab popcorn for entertainment or tissues for tears

[grand haven]

I'm just laughing at SP while sitting back watching everyone else hates on SP for me

[rain spire]

i can feel that one guy ready to go sp just to yell at them in person

[slim sedge]

even with 2 r5s I still can't beat the nebula dungeon

[rain spire]

dang

[orchid lodge]

does the dungeon adjust per season or is it the same ones from the start of the season?

[rain spire]

memes are not allowed

@fluid crest please stop posting the same god damn feedback

you kept doing this repeatedly

[fluid crest]

it is necessary

my post has been deleted twice

[rain spire]

even it is, stop reposting it

[fluid crest]

why

wannabe mod lol

stay mad

[grand haven]

are they deleting feedbacks?

[fluid crest]

i said hire new devs

deleted it twice :/

[rain spire]

and reposted twice

[fluid crest]

cool

[rain spire]

wait someone is taking mari’s place in feedback

[fluid crest]

wannabe mod loll

[rain spire]

i dont see that as a insult

[fluid crest]

it is

[rain spire]

not sure how

[fluid crest]

[rain spire]

also whats the point of hiring new devs

[rain spire]

@orchid lodge you can skip because the exit icon appears in 2 seconds before the cell loads in the wheel

[orchid lodge]

okay but i still want it to be skippable intentionally

[edgy talon]

Rank up dungeon makes no sense now at all if I need to use 150s to even have a chance I won't be ranking anything use brain cells before making design changes

[clever spindle]

for those saying its impossible

[clear stump]

Probably best to show the exact team used

[clever spindle]

alright

this is what i used

only frut died and on the last node

[clear stump]

Why a 150 though. Defeats the point of the dungeon.

[clever spindle]

its basically impossible without some attacker whos like 144+ or something

[clear stump]

There's having an impossible dungeon and there's having a possible yet useless dungeon. What's the point of it other than snal amount of nebula

[clear stump]

Impossible to 90% players then

[clever spindle]

pretty much

i only used malairion for nebula transfer from support

[signal lance]

Here is my team without 150 monsters

And for those who say "You lost"

[orchid lodge]

now beat it without R1+ monsters

[signal lance]

The suffering I will face will be unending

[clear stump]

9h it'll end alright

It'll end on like node 8

[signal lance]

If I'm lucky the second round of Node 8

[clear stump]

No difference to me

[rain spire]

i suffered on node 11

[lusty junco]

What about f2p player ??

[lusty junco]

Still say same thing for f2p player ??

[clever spindle]

u still can bet

BEat

lclint works too

[lusty junco]

Nah bro not work for all if it's so many people are not complain

[clever spindle]

..

[slim sedge]

if my clint was higher ranked I could recreate that team smh

but even better

because my frut is r5

[glass crest]

I switched to that team on 14, all going well until 16 when charmless ulted and team died from death countdown before I could finish off the final wave. I'll try again tomorrow

[fading junco]

How long did it take u?

2 hours?

[signal lance]

30 minutes or so

[fading junco]

Ur funny

What other monsters did u use

[signal lance]

None

[fading junco]

Up until the last node

[signal lance]

I literally only used Slum, Gahy and Foss

[fading junco]

Then what was ur strat

How did u deal 300k+ damage

[signal lance]

PEP + Evasion on Foss and then kill with Gahy who holds 3 Strength runes

[fading junco]

Hmm im thinking of using garnyxel clint and slum

Would that work

[signal lance]

idk

Garn would be better since he has self evasion

[fading junco]

And clint would deal more damage

So i should be able to complete it

[clever spindle]

what why

[clear stump]

Chinchilla suggesting something worse than gauntlet. Lovelt

[signal lance]

To make sure Foss survives to keep MT so he can protect Gahy and Slum

Gahy is the damage dealer in this case since she can pact a punch while also applying Evasion to Foss in the event that Slum's evasions are on cooldown

[clever spindle]

oh

also the fury infusion right

[signal lance]

Yup

[rain spire]

@rain hawk discuss that here

[orchid lodge]

also no you cant, not intentionally

[clear stump]

You can X a roulette off before it loads.

[orchid lodge]

1. read the message i said earlier
2. what if i cant catch it in time

as said, skipping the roulette before it even loads isn't intentional because its not a thing you can do when it does load (duh)

i should not be playing whack-a-mole with the X-button and hope that i don't have to sit through the roulette animation

[clear stump]

1, I did. You click the X quick enough in order to skip it. and yes for 2 I'm very aware that's a thing. You COULD turn off your WiFi and data to prevent it from loading as well.

[orchid lodge]

1. I feel like you are missing the point of the message
2. The point is why with all of the hassle that you have to go through just to skip a roulette animation. Like I said, clearly skipping the roulette wheel is not an intentional game design, because it shows up before the wheel loads and not during

[clear stump]

Yes I'm very aware of how the roulette works. Yes I know exactly how you can and can't skip it, I've done this stuff for 8 years Wallnut.

You submitted your idea, that's all that needs doing. Until then I'm simply saying workarounds.

[orchid lodge]

and I am fully aware of said workarounds.

[clear stump]

Not everyone is. ;)

[orchid lodge]

there shouldn't even be workarounds if skipping was a feature

[slim sedge]

I'd rather SP not waste their time on something with a workaround

[orchid lodge]

Workarounds are literally overcoming a limitation in the game, being that you can't skip roulette wheels. Skipping saves time and are seen in countless games

It being an intentional feature would remove the hastle of hoping that you hit the X button fast enough or anticipate it coming with wifi manipulation

[slim sedge]

still don't care enough to want SP to spend time on that and not other things

[orchid lodge]

hm yes ur use of emotes amuses me

[clear stump]

OK, now it's in the feedback hannel I'll be removing it from ideas channel

[rain spire]

@lucid niche over suggested idea

[slim sedge]

when we gonna start banning feedbacks about the survival dungeon

that's all anyone ever posts there anymore

[violet nebula]

because its nessesary

[slim sedge]

it really isn't at this point

if SP won't listen to the previous 50 feedbacks about it, what makes you think they'll listen to 50 more feedbacks about it

[rain spire]

terrarian has a point

sp has never listen to these feedbacks

[clear stump]

@nova pasture I'm pretty sure this has been suggested a good few times before, but it's a very good idea

[rain spire]

tbh i dont get the idea

[nova pasture]

its for you to have full control over the maze coins imagine you thought you had collected them all but actually you missed some so with the list you wont miss any

[rain spire]

oh

[grand haven]

I feel bad for the people that legit care about this game

[clear lagoon]

is it safe to go back to general feedback or are people still crying about the update

[clear stump]

Nope. Still a radioactive bomb site, pretty much.

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/khiên-bảo-vệ-phòng-ngự-protect-defend-gif-13810087

we must stay behind the shields until its over

[clear lagoon]

like i understand where everyone is coming from, but the hateful messages theyre saying in there is very un called for, like the devs have feelings too not that im defending them but still

[rain spire]

and overall, sp wouldnt listen to the 100+ amount of rants

[wicked bluff]

Idk but bring back Titan event?

[fluid crest]

[clear stump]

I would love to see a revival of TBG but it's horrendously hard to balance and causes quite a bit of discontent when teammates are not cooperative (ie rush front bases with crap mons)

[wicked bluff]

Well then

[signal lance]

@mint dawn over suggested idea

[signal lance]

@supple mesa Your idea doesn't sound balanced at all. Almost every monster with an Insta kill Ult/Move rely on a chance that the insta kill part lands and the only ones who don't are Devastress, Nisael, Eisul and Sting West Claw and what do these monster have in common? Thats right their Insta kill is in a Ult. The monster that remove life by a % don't rely on this in fact all they have to do is use a skill and boom the enemy losses 30%

[supple mesa]

if its a 50% life removal it only removes 50% of the life, it doenst kill it. what they can do is maybe 50% of the fugitive's current life to make it more fair bc if its already below 50% then its insta kill

[signal lance]

50% is still 50%

[orchid lodge]

whats your point...exactly? (to Sox)

[signal lance]

I could literally use Kernel pip and another attacker and just 1 hit KO the level 8 fugitive

[orchid lodge]

its time to make the Fugitive significantly weaker every time i face him

[wicked bluff]

Your idea sucks but I like it

[golden pollen]

kernel recharges anyways

[foggy summit]

u can just run two monsters with 50% life removal and thats it

its a bad idea tbh

[signal lance]

Basically just run Rudechaw/Kernel Pip/ Frutastor/ Thermagorn and have another attacker next in teh turn order and basically kill the fugitive with like 1 or 2 attemps

[foggy summit]

Yes

[supple mesa]

We’re talking ULTS

[grand haven]

would still be OP

[supple mesa]

Insta kill on an ULT is also OP but it exists

[supple mesa]

No you couldn’t cuz I said on an ULT

[signal lance]

Even then all you need is to get the Ult with the insta kill you monster only need to get the Ult but also get Lucky that the insta kill lands

God I hate Auto correct sometimes

[grand haven]

Well you see, it also depends on chance

if that ult has a 100% insta-kill, it would be blocked

however, this is either a 20% chance or a 5% chance

[signal lance]

Dratis is the odd ball with a 50% chance to insta kill

[grand haven]

pretty sure it's also 20% if it's a boss though

[signal lance]

@valid trellis Would you look at that. Though I will say its difficult but not impossible

[lean kelp]

Were you carried by slum, gahy or both

[signal lance]

Both

Though it was more Slumster

I actually tested it today and I was able to get past the last node with Slum, Emerald Nathura, and Foss but I just got lucky that I got my Emeralds Ult

[serene hawk]

@karmic fable yoooo.. was waiting for someone to say that... those animations get really annoying at times.. ;-;

[karmic fable]

Yeah i felt they should add that in the game

Lots of rpg games like ml have that feature

Like for example, pokemon

They have a feature that just completely removes any battle animations

[serene hawk]

Especially when I wanna quickly finish doing something as I dont have enough time..

[karmic fable]

And despite being a pretty miniscule change it can be really nice to have sometimes

[serene hawk]

Having to go through the battle animations, the winning ones in dungeons are just a pain

[karmic fable]

Yeah it is such a pain

[serene hawk]

yea

in pvp too ig..?

[karmic fable]

Yeah that too

[serene hawk]

like if you lose, it shouldnt show the screen or sth

[karmic fable]

True

[serene hawk]

not to mention, some people have lesser bandwidth

so going through all the animations can sometimes take quite some time

[karmic fable]

Yeah true

Also it could also make the game run a bit faster for some people

[serene hawk]

Yea

[foggy summit]

well still no

that would just kinda ruin the purpose of fighting the fugitive

[clear stump]

@fluid veldt Just saying, a counter vs counter meta was a big reason why Legendaries were ended. Every new monster was a counter to a previous monster, then there was a counter to them so and so forth. Plus, monster ideas go in #monster-ideas

[fluid veldt]

Sorry,i am from cosmic era id know about it

[clear stump]

Don't worry 🙂

[clear stump]

@fluid veldt another thing, please keep ideas separate to one per message. Seems your ideas are a bit intertwined there

for example treasure cave was originally a regular feature rather than an event lol

[wicked bluff]

What happened to treasure cave?

[clear stump]

Well... do I need to explain

[wicked bluff]

Gone?

[clear stump]

whaddaya think

#announcements message

lasted a grand total of 6 months

[wicked bluff]

Idk barely breathing? 🗿

[clear stump]

if it was "barely breathing" then why has it not been a thing for 2 years dude.

[wicked bluff]

Well, I’ve never heard of it
But kinda sad that it was removed

Also, what was it about?

[fluid veldt]

It's a good concept

[clear stump]

#announcements message

[orchid lodge]

treasure cave sounds great
although judging by its nonexistent appearance now, i presume there was something wrong with it

[clear stump]

It got nerfed through the floor compared to original released.

[grand haven]

literally stolen idea from AB2 btw

I just need to say that

[orchid lodge]

now that is sad

although it could be better than dungeons

[golden pollen]

@late valve

whats a pigrate cave

[serene hawk]

presume that's the one where there's the pirate with the gems thing

[orchid lodge]

the one where you spend gems and if you get enough you get the offer

its like 220 for 10$

[clear stump]

his name is captain pigrate. sooo

[wicked bluff]

Pls complain about the game, not the server
It’s getting boring reading through seas of “communication” complaints

[serene hawk]

@crimson sun ;-; happy crafting hour seems solid if it's a time where crafting time is reduced.. but using lutum/other of those cells seems a little overboard.. it makes it a little too overpowered, don't you think? People can easily obtain mythics just with that..

[wild citrus]

Era saga gone?

[golden pollen]

uh oh

[wicked bluff]

They could just make the OP monsters uncraftable and the lower tier monsters craftable

[clear lagoon]

using lutum/nebula to craft firesaur 👀

[wicked bluff]

[serene hawk]

Yea, makes sense.. could possibly not allow mythics to be crafted..

[serene hawk]

@lone kiln seems like a solid idea.. not too overpowered, not to underpowered.. there could be cooldowns for playing it though..

"fishing" sounds like a weird name imo

[clear stump]

Abyssal Hunt just seems like a BH clone with different names for things.

[lone kiln]

Basically yeah, but this time its like BH+ Multiplayer chest. U dont know what reward is coming

And ofc u will move around the map randomly or in a pattern, if u r lucky every of ur move will be a fish or u could even waste all staminas and found no fish to catch lol

[serene hawk]

add in consequences for catching some "bad" fish and eh.. ig it'd be kinda diff

[lean kelp]

Just seems like bh to me

Except with a new paint over

[dense ledge]

The two day quests like the current... rune lords should have the rewards updated

[signal lance]

Agreed but not a exclusive monster

[dense ledge]

At least one of the chests that give a random legendary or even ones that give one mythic from a specific era

[clever spindle]

do these poeple complaining abt needing to use r5s in survival dungeon realize that they can easily ask support to convert into nebula with a screenschot

[slim sedge]

yeah but it would get annoying having to constantly ask support to turn extra cells into nebula

[clever spindle]

yea fair enough

i always stock up ~2000 before asking

[cursive pelican]

@orchid lodge already an added feature

I believe

[orchid lodge]

p sure it’s only for monsters you own

[cursive pelican]

No.

[orchid lodge]

not the entire monstergram

a let m go check

[cursive pelican]

Top right

[orchid lodge]

should’ve existed before i thought Growler was Moochy smh

[foggy summit]

yeah only for all monsters not trait wise

but still would take a lot of work to code and anyway there's already wiki

[lean kelp]

Alot of the time they say they won't convert your cells and contacting them everyday is a stupid idea when they can easily revert the dungeon or make it completable without the use of meta monsters/150s and not force those with r5 Mt's/gahy/slum to pile up on cells

[crimson sun]

I know it's too overpowered but you can only craft mythics 2 eras after this means you can only use stardust to craft cosmic monster unless when the metro era ends you can craft corrupted monster but you can craft op monsters like pure pandalf the lord or chi if you have gold legends pass

[serene hawk]

hmm.. seems okay ig..?

[rain spire]

oof i believe there are some things that should be change for that event idea

[serene hawk]

That's a long detailed idea.. ;-; basically like the "battleship" game.. @clear lagoon it's a decent idea ig.. but many things need to be changed.. if it's just flipping tiles and hoping you hit a ship, or you knowwhere the ship is, it could be implemented outside of ML too. Perhaps add something where players could battle to see who gets sth.. or if you win the battle you get an advantage?

idk

[cursive pelican]

Seriously? Did he have to repost this?

[rain spire]

yep

[kindred prism]

1-Omg what is this monster prince charmless whenever I am against him in live duel after almost 2 turns its his turn and then I will never get a turn there are so many turns of him why but when I choose him in my team nothing happens everything becomes useless please fix this give him more turns but unlimited amount of turns is too much

2-i want to attack the supporter or attacker but no when ever I try to attack attacker it will attack the tank why ?????

[lean kelp]

It's called game mechanics

[serene hawk]

This is about ideas discussion bruh.. Wouldnt this be in feedbcak channel?

[serene hawk]

1. Anticipation...
2. Megataunt exists.. ;-;

[kindred prism]

Ohhh

[serene hawk]

'-'

[kindred prism]

Lol I am just dumb you know

A little bit

[serene hawk]

This isnt even a channel to ask that.. XD

[kindred prism]

Feedback

[lean kelp]

1. Prince Charmless has extra turn moves, meaning after using this move he gets another turn right after. Unlimited turns don't make a monster op since anti, stamina drain relics and shock make them pretty much useless majority of the time

2. The tank had either Taunt or Mega taunt, taunt makes all single attacks target the monster with taunt, mega taunt makes all aoe attacks target the monster with it.

[rain spire]

@torn mortar over suggested idea

and take that to feedback channel

[torn mortar]

And why it's not implemented when it's over suggested?

[rain spire]

cus sp barely looks

plus it belongs to #general-feedback

[slim sedge]

ew crowding #general-feedback with more of the same trash

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/shield-gif-19642906

PROTECT #submit-ideas BEFORE THEY COME

wait theres still one in there

[karmic fable]

He said battle on live duel lol

Don’t have any relic

[lean kelp]

O

Oop

Well he did also say monster shouldn't get unlimited turns cuz it's too op so

[karmic fable]

All the unlimited turn attacker would have damage boost/vulnerable/weakness i think

Even madam fusion have tho

Oh wait, Voltaik don’t have, right?

[rain spire]

yep, fusion’s bf doesnt have one

hes the only et with no other appliance to his et skills

[karmic fable]

Yes

[rain spire]

@wicked bluff what kind of drug youre on for that feedback

[lean kelp]

Why are ppl praising them for changing it when they haven't played the changes

[rain spire]

watch as sp renerfs it

[lean kelp]

For all we know they could've changed literally nothing and made it worse with rewards

[wicked bluff]

Ketchup, of course

[rain spire]

oh u do ketchup?

i do mustard for drugs

[wicked bluff]

They fixed the dungeon now, I will force them to open Petra’s Monthly Rap Battle

[rain spire]

ML X FNF WHEN

[stray condor]

@wicked bluff stop with the stupid feedbacks

also those arnt even feedbacks

they’re ideas

[rain spire]

tbh, i just like to have a ld mode like that

[grand haven]

legendaries, no. The rest, yes

[rain spire]

but i want to use wyrmlad

[rain spire]

@supple mesa thats belongs to #general-feedback

[rain spire]

i feel like i should exclude warmasters off the idea

[orchid lodge]

@clear lagoon that only really works if it applies to breedable monsters

[mental summit]

Idea : when fugitive is found disable tile claiming so everyone has to attack the fugitive and no miss clicks can occur

What yall think

[clear stump]

kinda common sense tbh

[clear lagoon]

but what if i want to flip more tiles...

[rain spire]

well u flip more tiles

also hows my idea

[orchid lodge]

I know for a fact that they have the ability to let us skip Bounty Hunt battles. Why?
Because I can literally see the damage milestone change before the battle even starts

[light plume]

Is that not because other people will be damaging it at the same time as you?

[wicked bluff]

It’s calculated.
If another player is damaging it at the same time as you, then the one who gets the reward is the one who did the most damage to the fugitive.

[clear stump]

I would presume its the one who launched their attack last given the damage is applied before you start the cutscene?

[clear stump]

@lone kiln please read the pins here

[cursive pelican]

Submit-ideas being werted

[clear stump]

@marble vault Hi Kevin. I removed some of your ideas due to them being either repeated, or over-suggested. We have some rules that you will find by checking the pins of these channels. thanks.

[orchid lodge]

hmmm no
the damage is calculated beforehand because before i even battle, it changed to the next milestone, and after the battle i got the reward. I’d also make sense why it’d be calculated beforehand, it’s an AI battle, the outcome is predictable. Also why would make you have to wait until the battles done to calculate it when someone could have stolen it?

Heck, the “Fugitive is Defeated” notification appears during the battle that defeats the fugitive

[light plume]

Ok

[supple mesa]

@karmic fable sounds cool but what was monster shrine

[rain spire]

@stiff lake global chat ideas are not allowed and sp is too stupid to even TRY to balance the game

[orchid lodge]

the problem is that he's not being specific

like balance the game how

[light plume]

Global chat was a mess and deserves to be gone

[orchid lodge]

hes so broad

[rain spire]

i dont see it as a “mess” but a “pointless feature”

plus hes in a discord server…where people chat about ml….which is exactly like ml

[light plume]

It was a mess

Racism

Swearing

E dating

[rain spire]

and a ton will not even say hi because how much people they are chatting in ml

its like a floodage and sp did a good thing to remove it

[karmic fable]

begone e dater

[karmic fable]

no one does

[rain spire]

yep…no one

plus hes on MLO….a freaking discord server where everyone chats

and has channels while global chat doesnt

SO WHATS THE POINT OF PEOPLE WANTING IT BECK

excatly

mlo = global but better

[supple mesa]

what was moster shrine?

was this an actual thing?

oh ok lol

[stiff lake]

Some monsters are so op and needs nerf

[signal lance]

Because it makes it easier for new teams to get members despite the fact that like 90% of the people in global are already in a team

[orchid lodge]

OBVIOUSLY
now list which one genius

and list how sherlock

[clear lagoon]

fire saur too strong need to nerf it

[stiff lake]

i dont want to lose time

but the new rat is op and needs nerf

[signal lance]

To be fair you would have a list going down to the 300s if you were to do that

[orchid lodge]

okay but this is #submit-ideas so you need to be specific otherwise they can’t do anything with the “Some monsters are op and needs nerf”. Even then it mostly fits #general-feedback better anyways

[stiff lake]

fr

[signal lance]

@full sandal Thats an over suggested Idea

[orchid lodge]

that reason alone doesn’t warrant any action

[signal lance]

Alright

[serene hawk]

@full sandal pretty sure SP said they would not be doing hatching boosts atm..

idk though

[orchid lodge]

now that is a strong reason

albeit uncertain but still one

[serene hawk]

yes a reason

@full sandal AH YES... i am now certain

they said no hatching guardian

it's in the pinned messages in #submit-ideas

[serene hawk]

now it's a certain one

:)

[orchid lodge]

gold guardian

[serene hawk]

and if you dunno where.. here it is

[signal lance]

To this day the fact that "Technoblade monsters" is there because of that one incident

[serene hawk]

what incident lmao

[orchid lodge]

clearly you weren’t there by the connotation or whatever you call it

yes i’m getting ELA shoved down my throat

[signal lance]

Ok heres the story. When Dream (The Corrupted one) was released the entire ideas section was flooded with Technoblade, Badboy Halo and other stuff monsters ideas/ partnership request

[serene hawk]

oh

lmao

[orchid lodge]

what do you guys think about a gold guardian? (spend gold to make gold amirite)
is it a great idea or is it overpowered since gold runes already exist?

[signal lance]

I mean it will make Gold fever harder

But broken? idk since the ones who could afford it already have 100B+ gold and the only reason to use it is to get an advantage in gold fever. For new players idk as well since if its to expensive no one will use it as it will only pay for itself once you already get a good amount of habitats filled with monsters

[orchid lodge]

if it’s that expensive, then they’d save up until they get the gold amount, use the guardian, get more gold and profit, then use it again, and it cycles

but yeah probably

monster lab guardian when

[rain spire]

@upbeat sleet bruh

[clear stump]

@upbeat sleet why..? It's not a good monster lol

[rain spire]

also who rhodent

[upbeat sleet]

Lol a rare monster

Why does a rare monster not breedable? And some legendary are breedable lol

[slim sedge]

why do you care lmao

it's so pointless

[upbeat sleet]

Well its a little funny that some rares are not breedable

[rain spire]

bruh

[cursive pelican]

It isn’t

Your idea is stupid 🗿

[rain spire]

hell is not even a idea

[cursive pelican]

Nobody cares about a random rare, obtainable in most frat yt breeding events anyways

[rain spire]

also isnt that a cosmic

[slim sedge]

even if SP were gonna look at the ideas channels, I'd rather they not waste their time on making a pointless rare breedable

[cursive pelican]

True

[upbeat sleet]

Ye i know

[cursive pelican]

Then why’d you post it

The most pointless idea for a monster that’s obtainable as random breedings from frat yt breeding anyways

[upbeat sleet]

Well i have a real idea make the chances of breedable legendary go up

[rain spire]

if its a joke idea thens thats not allowed there

[cursive pelican]

Both ideas suck

[rain spire]

Bruh

[upbeat sleet]

Lower the prices of gems in shop

[slim sedge]

why would SP ever do that

why would they want to make less money from something

[rain spire]

Bruh

just BRUH

its freaking demanding to get gems cheap

old idea but what do you think about this

[slim sedge]

pro idea but if SP ever added it you know it'd be p2w only

[rain spire]

lmao

i can see that as golden pass

[wicked bluff]

Breedable Rhodent sounds like something cool
Add it pls

[slim sedge]

ew

[rain spire]

ew no

make Thunderkong breedable

[slim sedge]

finally a good idea

[clear stump]

@karmic fable This is the channel for replying to ideas. Not #submit-ideas . Thank you.

[karmic fable]

oh i'm a brainless lul

[foggy summit]

ideas shouldnt only benefit you

[clear stump]

i mean, it's sorta beneficial to everyone, but is almost pointless

mythics are easy to obtain fairly early in the game (speaking specifically of pass, pvp. mazes and race not at the same point of easiness but still not hard) these days, theres no point in unbreedable rares existing - and im not saying make them breedable

[rain spire]

and mythics are attuned to be strong, powerful, or even gods among the rarites in the game and not making one mythic permanently breedable is more of a good choice

[foggy summit]

I see

[clear lagoon]

@supple mesa #information-roles-and-recruitment

[cursive pelican]

^

[clear stump]

[lean kelp]

Lord was also paid so I don't see the point of the new feedback

[clear stump]

I know we are not allowed to make feedbacks based on leaks
so why do it then

[lean kelp]

Well I mean he isn't a leak since he was revealed on the calendar on Monday

As for the glp part guess it's a leak

[rain spire]

i dont see how popular and original monsters being glp is a problem

[lean kelp]

But it's obvious he'd be paid

[rain spire]

also he upvoted his own feedback

thats illegal

[lean kelp]

So is malair, Alex Bone and cyan nathura not liked monsters or

[cursive pelican]

Ratiod

[dense quail]

Pretty sure half the community or more prefer fusion to voltaik

[slim sedge]

inb4 fusion is super omega op but they change it anyway and volt turns out to be bad

[rain spire]

just like in the legendary era

[lean aspen]

i think i sorta predicted metro voltaik being bad like a long time ago as a joke

ik that's nothing really huge but it's kinda funny

what's weird is that basically ever glp monster so far has turned out to be at the very best mediocre

as of now I'd say the best is alex bone though

[cursive pelican]

Bone is decent, malair was awesome for S1

Still good, although definitely getting replaced now

Bones only rlly good for the talent ngl

[orchid lodge]

@lean aspen that’s normally irrelevant considering that most play at x4 Speed with sounds off

[rain spire]

the feedback is about players using inappropriate names for their monsters when the game has lilysha, the most sexual monster design and most monsters’ lore is quite dark

[orchid lodge]

although I do play ML on an emulator and a mobile device free to do anything else

[rain spire]

is like a god damn controversy of idiots saying a fnf mod said a slur when the game is not for kids

[orchid lodge]

sexual vs offensive 🗿

[rain spire]

lol

tbh for hayman’s feedback, i partly agree but disagree at the same time

[orchid lodge]

the argument should be offensive names, not childrens seeing stuff

[rain spire]

@clear stump

no one click the link

[rain spire]

@golden pollen discuss ideas here

[golden pollen]

oh

mah bad

@lean aspen you can turn the relics and attack sound off and keep music on

[lean aspen]

oh

didn't know that, sorry

[golden pollen]

its ok imma just tryna help

[lean aspen]

thank you!

[cursive pelican]

“Traits are decent”

[lean kelp]

They'd be decent on most monsters

[serene hawk]

Bruh

[lean kelp]

Guaranteed turn to do nothing

[clear stump]

@next plinth please move your posts to #monster-ideas , which is where all ideas related to monsters go. I'll give you a few hours in case you are occupied. Thank you

[clever spindle]

am i the only one who thinks sp doesnt deserve backlash for uvs skills

per+et and td+et AND self et is just denier meta

even more so than az

[orchid lodge]

idk i don’t look at leaks

[clever spindle]

summary of uv and why people hate her:
madam but remove the per+et skill and make the et skill only to tt herself

[orchid lodge]

wuts TT again?

[clear stump]

Turn transfer

[orchid lodge]

doesn’t chi ao loong also have per+et

[rain spire]

yeah

and trait disable

[clear stump]

The difference is Chi was final season of his era and a huge plot point, not too sure how big Fusion is of a plot point just get

Chi can't loop his PER and ET like original fusion could, and his TD doesn't have an ET on it

[orchid lodge]

like i said, i dont look at leaks so i wouldn't know

[signal lance]

I actually agree with you

They had to find a way to make Fusion balanced in a way and as much as many hate to say this removing her PER + ET and NER + TT skill was actually the best choice they could do. UV Fusion still looks like regular Fusion but just more balanced

[clever spindle]

finally someone who actually thinks it through

if the skills were mirrored its basically like thalassa

but with 2 monsters and not 1

[signal lance]

Thats actually what would happen if they just gave UV Fusion her old skills

[clever spindle]

they toned down skills from op crazy legendary to low tier ones when they introduced mythics

theres no reason for them to make the skills as op again

[signal lance]

For more clarification it would have the same impact Thalassa did when she was first released and when Thalassa was released the most used denier was Dungeon Master so yeah

[signal lance]

Agreed

[clever spindle]

although it isnt exactly sps fault they couldve given her a compensation

like a single then area per, or something like tabora

where she can aoe per+td but with high costs

[signal lance]

Honestly I lean more towards the PER then AOE PER one

[clever spindle]

yea

didnt really play during cosmic era so idk what meta there was

anyways they shouldve at least given her one per skill

[signal lance]

Just 1 PER skill with no ET and that would make her way better but not Legendary Madam Fusion good

[clever spindle]

mhm

another issue i find is that people are complaining about uv, and not that sp might release another middling glp monster

the only “good” glp mon id say this season is malairion

nathura is bad, og is meh, dark voltaik is meh

it seems they cant find a difference between az chi op and level 4 firekong bad

[signal lance]

I feel like SP is making it clear that the glp monsters are more meant to be extra's and that the other rewards of the pass are what you should be looking at

[signal lance]

Trust me I once witnessed someone fight tooth and nail that Em was good

[clever spindle]

i mean putting them as the “special reward” as highlighted everytime you look at the lp and as the biggest thing in offers isnt exactly helping

[clever spindle]

wdym

[signal lance]

Basically there was an argument in the Wiki with someone who kept on insisting that Em Nathura was actually good and deserved B tier. As much as we tried to say that she was bad that user wouldn't listen and when he listed the team he will be using all of us basically said "1 AZ Chi and your dead"

[signal lance]

Fair point

[clever spindle]

em is like c/d lol

[signal lance]

She is in E Tier

[clever spindle]

her healing isnt half bad

pure force is the only reason youd use her tho

but hey wars..?

[signal lance]

I mean in Wars she is good but the wiki is mainly focused in PvP

[signal lance]

Is that the heal + life regen or the Heal + ET?

[clever spindle]

the heal+regen

comp wiki says that denial isnt “prevalent in the meta yet”

on posidonia

🗿

bro what they put nautick over foss

and drobo over foss

malairion d tier hurts my eyes

hes at least c or b

curse and the dmg boost+et as well as solid dmg output

trait sucks but why d

[karmic fable]

Yeah

Should be e tier imo

[signal lance]

Oh I can answer these. Nautik is actually a really good attacker, Drobo has PER and TD and is ridiculously fast, Foss just doesn't make the cut since Pango does his job better, Malairion really relies on that Damage boost + ET skill to actually deal some good damage, The part about denial not being prevalent is true since the only META denier is Pure Pandalf but realistically your using Pure for the Support that he brings over his denial

[grand haven]

Nautik is actually a really good attacker
SP: No! This is not how you're supposed to play the game!

[cursive pelican]

[clear stump]

@flint moon can confirm Team Battlegrounds was available. Ran from some time in 2018 to Feb 2020 as a monthly event.

[flint moon]

interesting, my bad and I didnt know that although i guess it probably did exist long time ago. I was exaggerating a bit in the suggestion as well. Would be nice if they could bring more events back

thanks for informing that btw

[clear stump]

I would love to see a return of it too

Very hard to balance though, and one uncooperative team member could stuff it up for the whole group lol

[rain spire]

always wonder that they should just remove the feature if its dead instead of keeping it in just to disappoint players

[clear stump]

yes they should imo

but then again it's sp... lol

[rain spire]

I like cubbybears’ feedback, relics should be removed from GMD

[signal phoenix]

Would really like the do your part dropped down to 10 or 11 this 15 dyp is really slowing teams down and costing members a ton trying to keep going needs to be fixed thanks

[stiff lake]

Nerf every new monster

[orchid lodge]

in what way, shape or form?

[foggy summit]

tou cant really do that second idea @meager estuary because there would be other people doing it

[meager estuary]

Wym by other people doing It?

[foggy summit]

Like OFA

If user A is doing it then that will interfere if user B is doing it too

I think you might mean just the progress bar for yourself but even then there’s already the counter thing for that

[meager estuary]

Oh okay understandable thanks

[signal lance]

Hey @meager estuary about your first Idea I suggest looking at the pinned messages

[clear stump]

[serene hawk]

@true jackal have you perhaps considered checking the pinned messages in #submit-ideas?

[clear stump]

2 hatching guardian ideas in 1 dY

I should put a lottery ticket on

[clear lagoon]

@karmic fable there already is

thetys's pet, alces pet etc

[karmic fable]

i mean like, reliquary and runes.

then also a mini pet monsters can hold

@clear lagoon #submit-ideas

[clear lagoon]

honestly not a big fan of having more relics/runes on monsters

[true jackal]

Sorry

[grand haven]

#general-feedback isn't for this server and it's hurting me

3 scams in a row

come on

[rain spire]

@flint stone another scam here

[flint stone]

Gone.

Thank you.

[rain spire]

@oak valley bruh

u said that you have a idea but want to keep it yourself, say that here and not in #submit-ideas

[clear stump]

@oak valley If you have an idea you're gonna "keep to yourself", then don't put rubbish like that in #submit-ideas please. Ideas you're choosing to keep to yourself don't need teasing

[slim sedge]

werted

[clear stump]

Then it goes to #monster-ideas

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-killer-bean-jet-bean-cringe-gif-22561907

[night talon]

@odd canyon it will never happen that's essentially 2.5x the normal rewards of the rank up survival dungeon that's too much and ranking up will become too easy.

[serene hawk]

hmm

[wicked bluff]

It will if we pressure them enough.

🪨

[serene hawk]

;-;

[night talon]

pressure about bug fixing

[serene hawk]

no

:)

[wicked bluff]

Those will be fixed later or sooner, most of them aren’t too game-breaking and also, I’m out of nebula

[serene hawk]

lol

[lean kelp]

Most of them may not be game breaking but some are

[wicked bluff]

Only some, I ain’t affected by it

[lean kelp]

Like that damn stun baby reversion that they refuse to fix

[wicked bluff]

Oh yeah that

Pressure them about that later, I need nebula

[lean kelp]

And blind accuracy reduction lasting an extra turn than the effect is on the monster

[wicked bluff]

[night talon]

When you'll experience some of them you'll feel the frustration it gives

Soo annoying

[lean kelp]

Lost so many grand duels to that damn blind bug

[serene hawk]

then pressure them to fixing the bugs and adding the rusd thing :)

[wicked bluff]

Still need nebula

[serene hawk]

;-;

forgot to disable ping

[night talon]

Rusd??

[wicked bluff]

Pressure them about it first.
Bugs later.

[serene hawk]

rank up survival dungeon

[night talon]

I alone can't "pressure"

[serene hawk]

ok

[serene hawk]

ok

[wicked bluff]

They will fix it eventually,
After the era ends, of course

[serene hawk]

XD

[dense quail]

just learn to abuse it

[night talon]

Some bugs existing from corrupted era

[wicked bluff]

Like Lemon said above, learn to abuse it

[cursive pelican]

[orchid lodge]

why would we make a free mythic thats one era away easier to obtain

[rain spire]

plus bounty hunt is the easiest event to get a corrupted

so thats also an idea of an impatience person…kinda

[wicked bluff]

It’s pretty unfair for people when a random pupil suddenly get like 3-7 or even 10 golden pumpkin coins in a row while others grinded their gears off through like 250-500 Evony ads just to get nothing but a slight pat on the shoulder, cells of outdated/garbage monsters that will never be used for anything besides gold slavery and war (if you’re THAT desperate), and probably a few pieces of gem if they pity you.

[signal lance]

Its all up to RNG in this case and if they were to increase the odds they will most likely increase the cost as well

We also have to take into consideration the possibilities that you will even get a useful corrupted. For all we know you could just get Royal Magus 10x in a row despite getting 10 golden pumpkins in a row

This is my take on why it doesn't really matter if you get the golden pumpkins or not since you have a 1/72 chance of getting something good

There are 11 good monsters yet only 1 is usable at R0 and thats Pango

Well correction 5 really if you count Taunts as being usable at R0

[cursive pelican]

11 good corrupteds

[clear stump]

@fresh lagoon i think it goes without saying now there's an easy one.

Hayman saga gives one at the end.

[signal lance]

Well there are more but my point still stands

An R0 Blum is a joke and a R0 Pango is better

[hearty sundial]

We need an air or wind element.

[rain spire]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-bear-slap-me-you-gif-17942299

no

[wicked bluff]

But what will counter it tho

[rain spire]

plus it probably would started from wind element commons to mythics