ideas-feedback-discussion

[karmic fable]

Search some key-words in #ideas-voting or in #submit-ideas

[tawny bane]

Isabelle do you have any idea if we are getting refunded or compensated for spending our gold on Canine?

[clear stump]

Don't know why you asked here but read above.

[tawny bane]

I don’t see any reward

[clear stump]

Make sure youre on very latest version of game, might need to restart

[tawny bane]

Ok

I scrolled through all of the news and I see nothing

[clear stump]

Me neither. Let's be patient. 🙂

[tawny bane]

Sure

Sorry for taking your time

[clear stump]

[dense quail]

Trust canine

Don canine keeps his word

I don't see anything in news so I'm gonna rely on the trust factor that he keeps his word

[tawny bane]

He scammed us twice in a row

[dense quail]

When was the first

[tawny bane]

Nvm

That was a mistake

Whoops

[signal lance]

@foggy summit why would shock stop Anti?

[foggy summit]

why not

actually just realized how bad of an idea that possibly could be

[rain spire]

@foggy summit i already took it

[foggy summit]

oh damn

[tawny bane]

I recommend not scamming out of our gold and then lying on Twitter. If I see one more garbage play like this I’m quitting and I’m sure I’m not alone

[slim sedge]

if you willingly gave all of your gold to Don Canine you deserve to have lost it all tbh

[signal lance]

Your fault really. If you checked you will find that there was literally no mention of a reward

Like the event literally had a "This is probably a scam" at the bottom

Many are angry but really it was there fault for doing so

[grand haven]

I thought people should know it was a scam beforehand, turns out many people aren't that good at detecting major red signs

[karmic fable]

yeah but for them to lie to us saying there is something in our inbox when there isnt is stupid

[sudden bison]

it might've not been sent yet

[woeful venture]

How do I know if a idea got added

[rain spire]

wdym

[woeful venture]

I had an idea get a lot if positive feed back, how do I know if it gets added

[rain spire]

it doesnt….hell sp doesnt look at the ideas/feedback channel

[woeful venture]

Then why do they have it?

It just seems like a waste at that point.

[rain spire]

how….

dynoed

Anyway, ideas channel is simply for us to share our ideas to others to see if they like it and does ideas voting is there, plus, perhaps a voidful chance that SP is going to add it.

and its technically a hobby to share our ideas

Feedback channel is made to…well make feedbacks about SP’s awful or great decisions for what they done to the gane

[woeful venture]

Ok sorry for bothering you thanks for explaining

[rain spire]

np

[signal lance]

@grizzled adder Joke Ideas are not allowed

Also your Idea has no sense of balance in it

[signal lance]

@obsidian compass Read the rules. Any Idea that has anything to do with the return of Global is banned

[obsidian compass]

Ok

[signal lance]

Many would much prefer that cluster of a mess people called Global gone to begin with

[grand haven]

@dense pumice so you're saying I can make my r5 santerion a metro mythic by using 1000 nebula?

or my r5 grakon, wyrmlad and eisul

[iron horizon]

Can we please control our monsters in the bounty hunt. It's so annoying to see the ai use the boosting move at the final turn

[clever spindle]

@dense pumice wow yes bring back unbalanced legendaries 👍

[dense pumice]

@grand haven you don't understand I am saying old version not every legendary like if you have malair you can use 1000 nebula or more to make him malarion.

[grand haven]

oh so it only applies to monsters that already have their mythic version

While it sounds cool, it's still a free p2w monster

[tiny sigil]

I think that's the point

Just a way to get more free stuff

[ruby cape]

I have an idea - you should be able put ready-to-hatch eggs in storage while you wait for habitats to upgrade to put the monster in

[rain spire]

wut

[signal lance]

@inner shoal Your Idea just seems really bad. Like you take away the Era saga all because you don't like the fact that the good guys always win? Thats just a crappy way of dealing with things

Like by your logic movies like Iron man, The Hulk, and Thor should just be canceled since the good guys always win

[inner shoal]

Always?

I mean cmon

[inner shoal]

You would know what happened in infinity war and death of some main characters is end game to make it ig traumatic?

So should be in ml

[signal lance]

You fail to realize that in the era sagas the good monsters also lose a battle right?

[inner shoal]

No one died.

They just left.

And the Saga is lifeless

[signal lance]

So what?

This is a kids game

[inner shoal]

I mean after Lilysha and many others monsters ml isn't really a kids game

[signal lance]

Despite that its still advertised as a kids game

[inner shoal]

And the death of lord Nebotus was lame

[inner shoal]

Thats there problem

I will still stick to my words

[signal lance]

Look the fact that you literally wan't to kill the one thing making it esier for F2P to get gems just because you don't like the fact that the good guys win is literally a crappy move

Alright soot yourself

[inner shoal]

Dude I don't care about saga statics I care about the story line to make it fun

[signal lance]

Now I can see just how much hate the F2P will have for you

[grand haven]

it's just era sagas, a plot like that would've been interesting

to be honest I originally thought that Pure Pandalf wasn't gonna win and we're gonna have another character to fight Nebotus

like Arch Knight lul

[glass monolith]

@pastel jolt good idea except it asks u if u want to sell something before u do it so its unneeded

[slim sedge]

@upbeat orbit reply to ideas in this channel

[lean kelp]

Also more adventure map islands is a banned idea

[slim sedge]

legendary grandmaster duels

it'll be riddled with r4 forsakens but

[rain spire]

@velvet tusk put your reply here

[clear stump]

Some people gotta read the pins.

[foggy summit]

im not spending 399 gems for monster clutch :woeisme:

so yes definitely to update it

[dense quail]

It'll be better than whatever mythics we play with now

[grand haven]

you overestimate people's reading comprehension isabelle

[clear stump]

@supple mesa I don't understand your idea.

[grand haven]

I think it has something to do with watching ads to speed up building?

[clever spindle]

its more fun to play with corrupted imo

[glass monolith]

@meager estuary no point doing thta lol

[meager estuary]

Oh ok

[supple mesa]

basically a dungeon where you can practise different teams agains bots to see what the best team you can make is. it can allow players to have their monster at max rank and level to see how it opperates with its trait. it also lets players know what monsters are worth ranking up with lutum/nebula and which ones to feed. basically you selece one of your monsetrs, equipt it with any rune, relic skills no matter if you have them or not. then you fight against monsters of similar level to the ones you chose to see how they opperate in real battles cause using a monster is always better than reading about it, idk if that makes much sense

[grand haven]

I'm pretty sure he meant the latest idea of yours

speed up building

[supple mesa]

oh.. you know how you can speed up farms by playing a video, the same thing but with buildings like habitats, boosts, upgrades, etc

[grand haven]

yea I figured

[clear stump]

@pastel jolt if you want to buff Acheron, specify what about him would be buffed.

[glass monolith]

lolll

[grand haven]

@upbeat orbit More adventure map ideas are banned, read the pinned messages

[clever spindle]

yea idk why sp decided to buff/change nebula dungeon, but not tell us

[bitter adder]

@violet heron of*

[violet heron]

no need to blame me for my grammar xD

[signal lance]

@vast mountain your idea just sounds like you complaining that you are getting many tier 6 eggs and not having enough time to open them

[rain spire]

Fallen

No Talents allowed in #monster-ideas

[strong nest]

Imagine a metropolitan griffex

[clear stump]

imagine not saying in monster ideas channel

:v

[rain spire]

@pastel jolt over suggested

[clear stump]

tasty repeats

[rain spire]

@karmic fable bruh

thats not a idea

[grand haven]

shame we don't increase stats anymore

[supple mesa]

@glossy tendon, they are lowered for you lower level players, my opponents are at lv100+. what you can do is use team speed runes on you lower leveled monsetrs and strength and speed on your attacker, use an attacker that has the elemental advangate, in this case, earth

[rain spire]

@clever spindle mind u that ML has Lilysha and Theyts that they consider to have sexual design to the younger audience as well

[rain spire]

@last plover y u not proud

[grand haven]

did they actually make it harder though

I can't tell since I never make it there

[rain spire]

and why argue that they make it difficult if it SUPPOSED to be difficult

[last plover]

Not sure what is your idea here. Supposed to, of course. Change behind your back, disgusting.

[rain spire]

another thing, why include the “no stamina” for the dungeon

whens its about you arguing about its difficulty

personally i dont like your feedback

[signal lance]

Yes they did

But you shouldn't be complaining since its still doable with like 120-130

[grand haven]

huh

[rain spire]

imo making difficult the more you go is reasonable since its so easy to rank

[signal lance]

Honestly I agree

The difficulty makes sense for the large amount of cells you receive

[rain spire]

@marsh salmon i dont understand your idea

[marsh salmon]

its not an idea, I was just telling the person how to counter that problem...

should I delete it?

[rain spire]

well yeah

[marsh salmon]

👍

my bad

[rain spire]

its fine

[karmic fable]

More islands please. I’m running out of room for my monsters!!!

[rain spire]

get a vault

[grand haven]

also extra island ideas are banned

[rain spire]

@karmic fable nice try

get dynoed

[bitter adder]

@clever spindle you can dm a mod or the cm if you have an innapropiate ad

[clever spindle]

k

[karmic fable]

I mean why even reply? Just giving out an idea.

[rain spire]

bruh u call me a dumb sit with the h because i said that you should use the vault, which is obvious because island ideas are banned from the #submit-ideas

[karmic fable]

Listen kid, obviously there’s a vault. I’m suggesting more islands so we can have the monsters out producing gold cause they obviously don’t in the vault. Stay in your lane my guy.

[grand haven]

and that suggestion is banned

[karmic fable]

A suggestion can be banned? Why cause it’s a good one?

[rain spire]

yeah which i clearly said

[grand haven]

no it's because it's repetitive and over-suggested

[rain spire]

its call over suggested

[karmic fable]

If it’s suggested a lot maybe the people who actually work for the game should do something about it which is who I’m actually suggesting the idea to. Not you two kids getting involved in something that doesn’t involve either of you.

So do me favor and realize you don’t always have to comment

Stay in school

[rain spire]

the hell…

bruh we are saying that that idea is not allowed in #submit-ideas

[grand haven]

just... don't, he definitely wouldn't listen

[rain spire]

i lost braincells from this guy

[grand haven]

the fact that we're just stating that things are over-suggested and banned and he's already calling us kids should be clear enough to see what type of personality he has

[rain spire]

whats worse is that he has no idea that what we are saying when we cleary said that idea is not allowed

also he called me dumb for saying that he should use the vault and got dynoed

[clear stump]

@karmic fable I banned that idea from this channel - I am a volunteer who manages these channels, and I don't have time to resubmit the same idea consistently for voting. The idea is banned because of how often it is oversuggested. That's nothing to do with "two kids". If you don't like that we banned an idea, perhaps go and upvote the existing suggestion in #ideas-voting . Thanks.

[clear stump]

Remove.

That's better.

[rain spire]

[grand haven]

people like these just make me disappointed

[rain spire]

same

especially those whos trying to have more potential than us but obviously doesnt

[bitter adder]

lmao

are you 2 the kings of ideas and suggestions

[karmic fable]

Oh no I disappointed some random child

[rain spire]

cant be king of ideas since i havent post any ideas since

[bitter adder]

sorry, your the lord of the #ideas-feedback-discussion

[grand haven]

I am the king of monster ideas jk

[clear stump]

Pack it in

[grand haven]

yea let's clear out

[rain spire]

Im the king of making Gods Era and making broken monsters in that era

[bitter adder]

give it a rest

[clear stump]

@karmic fable that reaction isn't allowed here. Remove it thank you.

[final flint]

What in the hell happened here?

[rain spire]

me feelings hurt

[rain spire]

look above

[final flint]

We can't react with poop emojis?

[clear stump]

No.

[bitter adder]

so we can?

[rain spire]

No.

[karmic fable]

Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?

[rain spire]

Yes.

[final flint]

Why do Roleless people have access here?

[bitter adder]

don't question staff if you know whats good for you

[grand haven]

fr I saw some roleless in #ml-general-discussion too

[bitter adder]

they're not roleless, they have no role

[clear stump]

We are supposed to provide Roleless to those who lack a role.

So...

[bitter adder]

as in joined before roleless was implemented

[clear stump]

[grand haven]

isabelle back at it again

[bitter adder]

why didn't you just make roleless the @ everyone perms to combat such an issue?

[clear stump]

Back at it again at Krispy Kreme.

[grand haven]

I should make a stat boost for every roleless and/or pupil moment

[clear stump]

we don't want every channel to be a "closed" channel with that boring icon

[bitter adder]

fair enough

[bitter adder]

@prisma seal it is not possible for pc ads as no ad providers exist

[prisma seal]

ok

[foggy summit]

@grim sparrow already exists in Legendary

[clear stump]

Legendary Restriction doesn't exist anymore

And that's just as bad as having Rare restriction during Legndary era

[slim sedge]

Legendary, Winged and Team Wars restriction war

[clear stump]

I hate you

You gave me trauma of something like haven't experienced

[slim sedge]

even proer war: common, common, team wars

[rain spire]

how about F Tiers Legendaries/Epics/Rares Team Wars

[slim sedge]

well there's no official tier list so that automatically wouldn't work

[bitter adder]

@fluid crest quit moaning and just tell support

[fluid crest]

are u serious

[bitter adder]

do i sound like I'm joking

[fluid crest]

no but what u said is extremely stupid

[bitter adder]

nah

[fluid crest]

ok so how is me saying fix a bug that makes it impossible for people to get cells moaning?

braindead

[rain spire]

what

the hell is the problem here

[fluid crest]

this uncommom being dumb

[rain spire]

how

[fluid crest]

saying that they shouldnt fix and i should just dm support

[rain spire]

you cant call someone dumb if people lose braincells from your argument

[rain spire]

well ask support

[fluid crest]

ive never had my monsgpters revived or compensation

so

[rain spire]

so..:..

[bitter adder]

don't judge me as uncommon at one point i qualified for other high roles

[rain spire]

yeah for god sake whats the point of calling their role

[bitter adder]

innit

[fluid crest]

epic and uncommon

[rain spire]

“professional”

[fluid crest]

what

[rain spire]

thats ur role

[fluid crest]

all im saying is they need to fix their broken game

[rain spire]

sp is too stupid to even fix

[bitter adder]

sigma king of #submit-ideas #general-feedback and r5 draza record holder*

[rain spire]

so theres no point to demand sp to fix if they are stupid

[fluid crest]

they have so much money they can hire someone not stupi

[rain spire]

again they are too stupid to even look for someone not stupid

[fluid crest]

yru

true*

[orchid lodge]

what do you guys think of this idea?
#submit-ideas message
(it’s a message link)

[wooden token]

Bro…

Better not be sending ip grabbers 💀

[signal lance]

Trust me if he did he would be executed by the mods in an instant

[orchid lodge]

it’s a discord message link wth

i don’t think it works though but idk i’m on mobile

[wise surge]

SP listened to my Feedback wow.

[rain spire]

i mean, is a 000000.1 chance for SP to listen, guess they choose yours

[wise surge]

I know. I made that feedback last night and within like 15 hours they decided to Nerf power armor based on my feedback

[grand haven]

Don't just count your influence, others complained as well

and by others I meant me

[rain spire]

i dont care about talents but i glad they did

what about medpack should that be nerfed?

[clever spindle]

no not really

[rain spire]

y

[rain spire]

@jagged herald over suggested

[jagged herald]

That was a joke

[rain spire]

Joke ideas are not allowed as well

[jagged herald]

Im serious abt the name changer thing tho

Not paying 1000 gems for it

[rain spire]

yeah but ideas that involves name changing is not allowed to be posted in #submit-ideas

[jagged herald]

Was that in the rules, wait hol on lemme check

That wasnt in da rules doe

I just checked

[jagged herald]

Ohh its in pinned

🤦‍♂️

Wait hold on it still doesnt say anything abt name change

[cursive pelican]

[rain spire]

indeed

[bitter adder]

are you stupid

why do people think every link is a grabify

[lean kelp]

@vernal violet wdym by list?

List of what

[signal lance]

Considering the links we have its kinda understandable to be wary

[bitter adder]

no

[clear stump]

https://monsterlegends.fandom.com/wiki/El_Colosal

You mean like this? @vernal violet

As well as all the pinned info in #breeding-events-and-permanent ???

[lean kelp]

And the message I spam every time a new combo is found

[clear stump]

Lol.

[clever spindle]

@tranquil forge no

[tranquil forge]

lol

[clever spindle]

hmm yes make already good effects more powerful

great idea wow

totally

[wooden token]

Calm down fam 💀

So pressed

[bitter adder]

💀

[signal lance]

Like we are online so its better to be wary of any link that is posted especially on text messaging apps

[bitter adder]

but just assume every link is an ip grab

[orchid lodge]

yeah but the fact that you don’t recognize a discord message link is what gets me

[wooden token]

U realise there are ways to hide an ip link yeah?

[orchid lodge]

through a discord message link???

[wooden token]

Ways to hide it as a yt link.. etc etc

Bruh how would i know

Tryna be aware of it thats all ?

If you can manipulate a link to seem like a harmless site then what is stopping you from doing the exact same?

Im not sure about discord links, but i know about others

Which just made be more weary

[orchid lodge]

back to the main reason i sent the message link
opinions on the idea?

that or you can just scroll through #submit-ideas

[supple mesa]

@lusty junco there are many more ways to get gems, i agree with your idea of not decreasing but to be fair you earn an extra 20-30 gems from spins and 100 gems is quite a fair bit. there are multiple other ways you can get gems, completing daily quests give you 5 gems/per day which is 35 gems in a week. furthermore, easy gem dugeon gives you 27 and legendary gems gives you over 40. if you complete all your daily quests, which are relitively easy, and the easy gems dunegone youre getting 62 gems a week. you wont always be able to do the legendary gem dungeon but you should be able to pick up abt 5 or so if you have lv100 legendary monsers. either way, 62 gems a week is pretty good and you get it just from playing. also, i sugges watching 5 vids a day to get the spin bc ive picked up 10 gems and even 100 before so thats worth something. also, surverys are relitecly easy especially now with the x1.5 boost. i hope that helps you to get more gems.

[dense quail]

The people who didn't want power armour to be nerfed probably just enjoy each game to be finished within a few taps lmao

[supple mesa]

agreed i mean paying for extra benefits is good but there has to be limits

[lusty junco]

All the things you mansion i did all i get 20 from gold & food and some times 25 from runes in a month i earn upto 300 gems without spin but thing is in race & breeding you need more gems if you want to make your team stronger or i can say stay with other good team so you need every gems that's why i say reduce gems on era saga not good for f2p players

[signal lance]

@left stag that's just bad luck

[left stag]

what is

[signal lance]

You not getting the monster after 600 gems

[left stag]

not that is just the odds of getting the monster screwing me over

and sorry not 600 gems more like 300

[signal lance]

Well again that's just bad luck

[left stag]

or maybe the low odds

[signal lance]

It's 25% to get one

[dense quail]

It's sadly considered your fault if u didn't get the monster

But I think quest monsters are a different story

The chances are supposed to be quite high?

[left stag]

thats what

i didnt get the quest mon

[signal lance]

It's 25%

[left stag]

and i remember u complaining about this

[dense quail]

But 100% success

[dense quail]

I complained about other breeding events

Quest is good

[dense quail]

To get a featured monster

[signal lance]

Quest is the one that has one of the highest chances to get the monster

[left stag]

oh

well

[dense quail]

The other ones are terrible

Oof

[signal lance]

Get Dynod

[dense quail]

Admin boutta msg you

And warn u lol

[left stag]

shic

[signal lance]

Don't try to by pass the swear thing

[dense quail]

Muffin lmao

[left stag]

oh

[dense quail]

Replace words with muffin lol

[left stag]

muffin ,muffin this game is muffin

[dense quail]

[left stag]

suck my muffin sp

the muffin is good

[dense quail]

[left stag]

muffin's do taste good

[dense quail]

Btw

Why disagree about power armour

[left stag]

cuz i like op game breaking talents

[rain spire]

what i missed

[glass monolith]

@tranquil forge thats too op

[supple mesa]

save them up, i got 900, just dont use them on things you can wait for. also, do surveyrs, theyre really easy i got voer 100 today

[lusty junco]

I have 3000 gems by saving bro with use of 500 gems per race & not use single panny in this game

That's why i suggest that not change in amount of gems we get free for sack of f2p player

[supple mesa]

race occurs one a month, you shoudl have enough by then

[lusty junco]

Buddy you don't understand my points leave it

[clever spindle]

hey @light plume, im curious, why did you downvote the recent feedbacks

[grand haven]

@abstract crown banned idea, read the pinned message

[rain spire]

@abstract crown over suggested and read pins

[clear stump]

We don't need two people pinging same person for same reason.

[grand haven]

E probably didn't see my message

common occurrence for people who use discord I guess

[rain spire]

sry i have dumb to read

[grand haven]

same

[rain spire]

lol

[grand haven]

I'm gonna be real here, looking at all these complains about the nerf is pretty sad, especially when I see people asking for refunds over these dumb stuff.
You're willing to give up the massive gap you still have over free to play, including more gems, a level 10 rune, hatching boost, donation boost, an exclusive monster and all the other things just because "oh no my extremely powerful talent became useless"
Well guess what? f2ps have had that problem since season 3 of the corrupted era. We grinded our butt off for us to be outclassed by the people that press a single button and have accessed to 3 extra turns, an NER, a triple damage and a mega freeze. We worked for some of the more powerful monsters only to meet the people that simply had more resources because they throw money at the game. We wished for this season to set things right only to be greeted with a talent that can heal for half your life and leave you invulnerable, as well as a talent that doubles your strength. Don't go in whining that the massive gap you have over f2ps have been reduced when in reality it's still gigantic. You have been taking advantage of SP's biggest errors, and now that they realised what they are doing wrong, you're suddenly against change. Better thank god they haven't nerved almost anything else that's been paid to get in this game.
I'm pissed. I'm seriously pissed that people can be this arrogant.

[rain spire]

same

cant believe that people are complaining about this when it clearly deserves for being op

[grand haven]

for real, jesus

[light plume]

Yeah

[grand haven]

If people complain for the sake of complaining, fine, it's whatever, but they're willing to give up 80% of the advantages they still have.

[light plume]

And the fact that people are agreeing is just bruh

[rain spire]

i give no craps about nerf talents but complaining about a nerfed talent for being op is a example that they clearly want easy wins and that is just unfair towards others who dont have it

[light plume]

I HaVe MaSs AmOuNtS oF AdVaNTagEs OvER F2P pLayErs bY bUyInG ThE PAsS BuT ONe tHinG GOT nErfed sO I dEsERvE A rEfUnd

[lean kelp]

I haven't seen anyone say completely revert the talent it obviously needed a nerf, but to the point where a r1 hidden shiv can outdamage even a r5 power armor is extremely pathetic

[grand haven]

Because they're not sending feedback, they're complaining, they don't want reverts, they want refunds.

[rain spire]

wait doesnt buying the talent also have to make you by the glp or its separated

[lean kelp]

Yes

You need nathura who is in the glp

[grand haven]

On most feedbacks, there isn't a suggestion to change, there isn't a suggestion to buff it back a little, no. All I've seen is "Too weak, butchered the talent, give me a refund"

[rain spire]

so if refunds were added, you get your money back but lose Nathura as well

[grand haven]

The only one I would accept as a feedback is MonkePee's, because he has a legitimate suggestion to the problem.

[lean kelp]

Scroll up a bit, since only 2 ppl have said they wanted a refund

Some ppl have suggested to buff it a bit, some ppl have complained its too weak, some have asked for refunds

[grand haven]

TheTrueHayman's feedback is also appreciated

but the latest 4 feedbacks are just complaints

[lean kelp]

The thing I'm most confused about is the fact that this talent was put into the game and approved by the devs but only after we played with it 1 week later it was considered overpowered and needed a change 🤷

[grand haven]

Yea the devs really never test things out

it's always waiting for the community's response

[lean kelp]

Especially 1 week later, when the discount ended and everyone had already bought the pass

Ofc all the other rewards are considered worth it but I know many ppl only bought this pass specifically for this talent and probably wouldn't have bought it if it was a unusable as it is currently

[grand haven]

It's dumb the kind of mistakes and corners SP makes and cuts

yea because the people that buy these aren't there for the perks, they're there to win pvp

No one would buy GLP if there wasn't an exclusive monster or exclusive talents

[rain spire]

they always forgot one thing, one IMPORTANT thing they keep forgetting…:

[grand haven]

and also, the refund talent thing isn't just happening in #general-feedback

in #ml-general-discussion I've also seen

It boils my blood so much

[rain spire]

mmmm forgetting placing “wins”

perhaps i shouldve read first

[grand haven]

I'm just pissed that it's all feedbacks about the talent

because that's all they focused about GLP: the talent

[lean kelp]

I've thrown around refund in mlc as a joke, I'm fine with the double food, hatch boost and all the gems, war coins etc since I'm not really a competitive player more of a collector, however I'd still like to see the talent get a buff, maybe to like 25k or something at r5, it 100% needed a nerf ofc but not as big of a nerf as it got.

[rain spire]

oh look a refund demander

[lean kelp]

He downvotes every feedback anyway

I'm pretty sure

[grand haven]

I hate the primary focus of GLP are the things that help you win the battles, not easier way to get monsters

The whole point of the game is that it's a grinding game with fun monsters to collect and battle, but the only thing that gets focused on is the 'battle' part

[lean kelp]

The resource and hatching boosts are 100% the mvp in the pass

[rain spire]

more importantly talents are mostly use to do average to good helping and not to be so broken

[grand haven]

p2w talents are way more broken compared to f2p talent sometimes

[lean kelp]

Only time it wasn't was with pain distiller and Crystal form

[grand haven]

the only times it doesn't is in corrupted era season 2 and 4

[rain spire]

huh

[lean kelp]

Pain is just 🤌

What was season 2 free talent?

Oh ya dispelling fist

[grand haven]

dispelling fist

[rain spire]

well duh its called pain distiller

for a reason

[lean kelp]

Well if you count the pass talents then all of the free one have been better

Not the saga talents

Apart from s6 where they both sucked

[grand haven]

isn't pass talents introduced in s5

[lean kelp]

4

I think

With mud body

And revenagencer

[grand haven]

and revengencer

revengencer is significantly better tbh

[lean kelp]

Whatever month nebotus was in

Revenge is hot garbage

[grand haven]

lord was in s5 with sir valgar

[lean kelp]

I've never used it

Mud body I use the whole time tho

[grand haven]

revengencer is like chaotic wish

when you survive just right it's absolutely painful to the enemy team

[lean kelp]

Unless you're running uriels and when it triggers the enemy has no mt then its good

Other than those situations, it pretty much never triggers

[grand haven]

yes but when it triggers it's beautiful

shame that the free pass talent from s6 never got the ability to shine

you can reapply MT with it

[lean kelp]

Both revenge and final sacrifice were way too situational to be used

[grand haven]

they were balanced

they change the tides of battle in a balanced way

unlike UA, AZ or any other talent

[lean kelp]

Oh wait s5 had a better free saga talent imo

[marsh salmon]

bruh, what, I dont even buy passes, I disagree with your feedback cus ppl buy the glp expecting a good talent, but now power armor isnt usable...

[rain spire]

seems legit

[grand haven]

see, this is what I dislike about these feedback, people only expect the talent, not the rewards coming with the talent

ever since talents were introduced any other thing that was in the GLP got thrown out the window

[lean kelp]

Spirit battery is amazingly underrated, smite I see never get used apart from chi/spek + et attacker like ingwe or charmless

[grand haven]

smite used to be a hood classic until AZ arrived

[marsh salmon]

cus talents are game changing, I bet ppl bought the chi pass for the talent mainly...

[lean kelp]

And chi 🤫

Most broken monster, literally ruins any war he is in

[grand haven]

no, people bought the chi pass for both, and while yes talents are game changing they're game-changingly broken

people get talents because they are broken

stupidly overpowered

[marsh salmon]

screw power armor AZ deserves a nerf

[grand haven]

yeah the p2ws better thank god that thing haven't been nerfed

I remember when Banishing Touch was the most broken talent ever

[lean kelp]

It's dying out ofc, with every ner support being released having freeze immune/control immune monsters, pango

[grand haven]

able to bypass MT, DA

[grand haven]

also this, every broken talent triggers a chain event of monsters

[marsh salmon]

lol everybody thought banishing touch would be the talent from wang's saga

[rain spire]

i find Pandalf, Nebotus and Chi broken all at the same time

[grand haven]

Phase Shield? Boom ryclops. Absolute Zero? Boom Pangoliath, Boomshakalaka. Unrelenting Assault? Boom Static Shock, Anticipation, etc

[lean kelp]

Ua with kurai, blum, Lord, ferrata (underrated monster, not bad, not great wither), all of the shock monsters/static shock

[clear stump]

Just saying Power Armor was way too broken and nerfing it was the right choice

[rain spire]

agree

[grand haven]

absolutely

I'd rather make it useless than having another chain event again

[rain spire]

the whole arguement of the nerf and demands of refunds is just stupid

[grand haven]

quite possibly with total damage reduction monsters

[lean kelp]

Nerfing it was a good choice yes, to the point where a r1 hidden shiv gives my r5 malairion more extra damage eh not so much

[clear stump]

If you bought the pass solely for power Armor and nothing else, I'd re-evaluate how you spend your money 😅

[grand haven]

^

right here, gentlemen

my thoughts

[rain spire]

they also kept forgetting one thing importantly

[tranquil forge]

regarding power armor, how strong was it before the nerf?

[clear stump]

60k at rank 5

15k at rank 0

[lean kelp]

60k at r5

[grand haven]

wait 90k??

I thought it was 60k

[clear stump]

Sorry 60k

[grand haven]

oh good

[clear stump]

I keep thinking 90k

[rain spire]

oh thank god

[clear stump]

Its now like 12.5k r5

[lean kelp]

Flat 12k

[clear stump]

Ah ty

[grand haven]

yeah for comparison, a 3 speed Sigrid would have quadruple the strength they have before with the old Power Armor buff

[clear stump]

Perhaps it was a bit too harsh of a nerf but I'm all for it

[grand haven]

They better be happy it didn't happen to the rest

[rain spire]

lol

[grand haven]

But chances are, next season arrives, another OP talent

[clear stump]

Wouldn't surprise me.

Phase Shield 2 Electric Boogaloo

[grand haven]

Wouldn't surprise anyone let's be honest.

[clear stump]

Truuuueee

[rain spire]

one important thing that SP doesnt care about the players so they wouldnt even suggest giving people refunds

[grand haven]

anyways, ranting too much, getting late, gonna do my collection and sleep

gn yall

[clear stump]

It's It's that game breaking of an event like Recently Freezed was

[rain spire]

gn

[clear stump]

Yes it's a big change but I've seen bigger

So many things offered in this GLP that even if I whale on it I wouldn't ask for a refund

Slightly pointless imo

And even if you're in dire straits... why buy in the first place 🤔

[marsh salmon]

they should have nerfed phase shield instead of this, that is way too broken

[clear stump]

Phase and this both deserve nerf.

[rain spire]

nah its not broken

[lean kelp]

Nah old power armor is by far worse than phase shield

Wouldn't be surprised if we get a reverse healing talent to counter phase shield tho 🤷

Ua vs static shock of the metro era

[rain spire]

wait if Power Armor is nerfed…

why isnt call Nerfed Armor?

[dense quail]

I'm pretty sure about everyone who bought the pass had that intention

Nathura is trash

[slim sedge]

yes the pass only gives Nathura and Power Armor

nothing else

[light plume]

Yep

Why would it give anything else?

[tranquil forge]

300 gems, X rune, extra hatching slot, faster hatching... Yeah, nothing else in the pass is worth it

and the cosmic chest

[fluid crest]

for £20... during the race i can buy 350 gems for £10 lol

without the decent relic its kinda not that worth

because for the people who will be using power armour at r5 a single X rune isnt that useful

[slim sedge]

I feel like the rewards from the pass are worth more than 700 gems

[light plume]

Yeah

[signal lance]

It actually is

For a lvl 10 rune alone is worth 300+ gems

[clever spindle]

@bitter adder bro when did ryclops need nerf and chi need buff

[signal lance]

Then you have to count the amount of gems you get from the Era saga

[bitter adder]

sorry for having an opinion

i think they do

[clever spindle]

can you elaborate?

not hating you just curious why

[signal lance]

What kind of thought process of making Chi the most OP monster in the game have a buff and Ryclops a decent curser need a nerf

[tranquil forge]

Think of it like this: you are getting 30% removed for 5 hatching slots. over the course of having the pass (1 month) you are getting free hatching skips that would otherwise cost a good hundred gems or so

[bitter adder]

well i think chi ao loong doesnt have enough damage output

and i always lose to ryclops

[signal lance]

He is a Curser not a an attacker

[tranquil forge]

chi is not supposed to be an attacker

[clever spindle]

chi is support/curser

[signal lance]

Why the hell would a curser need to deal damage

[bitter adder]

i know

i want it to do damage

[clever spindle]

also, if you keep losing to ryclops that doesnt mean it needs nerf

just like how i keep losing to lord nebo

[bitter adder]

ok then downvote if you disagree bro

[signal lance]

Thats literally the old "I keep loosing to Steamwrath" argument again

[clever spindle]

your main point tho is true, some monsters are balanced poorly

[signal lance]

But the examples he gave were the worst examples

[clever spindle]

yea

tbh this glp kinda sucks

[bitter adder]

agreded

[clever spindle]

bad monster, bad era talent, and average free and paid talents

[signal lance]

Its not the monster people should be thinking about. It should be about the boost it gives

You get 300 gems from the glp and then a lvl 10 rune which could cost 300+ gems

[clever spindle]

i mean the monster is plastered as the biggest thing in the glp

[signal lance]

The monster is more so an extra compared to the other rewards

[clever spindle]

mm maybe

[bitter adder]

could not agree more nyoo, we need to encourage spending so the devs have more budget to work with the game! good job

[clever spindle]

however sp advertises it like its the main thing and everything else is an extra

[tranquil forge]

that's how advertising works

[signal lance]

Jesus christ people really don't think when they make suggestions do they

[clever spindle]

its not an ad for players to join the game, its an ad to spend money

[tranquil forge]

ads are still ads

[lean kelp]

Joke feedbacks are great

[clever spindle]

i understand why f2p are happy that pa was nerfed but i mean, cmon its less useful than phase shield on an artifact monster at this point

[signal lance]

If Mari was still here those would be gone in an instant

[bitter adder]

its not a joke pal

my feedback wouldnt be gone with mari because its not breaking rules

[storm falcon]

Im a f2p player, and yeah I'm happy It got a nerf,but this nerf was way too much, now its just so unusable

[orchid lodge]

I don’t have enough levels to get the talent anyways so

i’m not technically f2p cuz i spent money on a 1M food deal

[lean kelp]

1m food?

[dense quail]

@bitter adder joke feedback?

[bitter adder]

if it was a joke I'd post it in #jokes

[left stag]

9 tries 700 gems on quest mons

[signal lance]

That is literally known as bad luck

[left stag]

just increase the chances of getting the quest mon

ez

thats it

[signal lance]

Its literally 25%

[left stag]

make it 50

[signal lance]

Thats higher then every breeding event

[left stag]

[signal lance]

Now thats way to high

[left stag]

well at least ppl will get the mon

btw the lvl of a mon that is breeding has nothing to do with the outcome right?

[signal lance]

There is a thin line between good odds and way to high odds

50% is way to hig

[left stag]

40

[signal lance]

Again way to high

[left stag]

just increase it a bit so that no one has to suffer like me

[signal lance]

30-35% is where they would draw the line

[left stag]

[left stag]

that also works

[signal lance]

Listen man everyone has bad luck

This is the time when you have bad luck

[rain spire]

@tranquil forge thats already in #ideas-voting

[tranquil forge]

oh is it?

ok then

[orchid lodge]

I was like you once
filled with rage, demanding the luck rate to be increased because I couldn’t get an idea (specific details are irrelevant). However, I remembered it wasn’t the end of the world if i was unlucky.
I was especially lucky with this case as it wasn’t some sorta event
Nonetheless, learn to deal with your luck, good or bad
and get gud (by not complaining about unchanging luck stats that aren’t rigged)

[signal lance]

Remember there is no way to change your luck at all

[left stag]

ok ig

but 700 gems

gone

😢

[signal lance]

Kinda your fault for going on with breeding after failing for like the 10th time

[grand haven]

it's rare seeing people with good roles being scammed and hacked

[slim sedge]

I pinged Helen about it in another channel

[grand haven]

and orthus pinged iliah in the other channels

[neon lance]

sigh.

[slim sedge]

pro ty

[glass monolith]

@supple mesa whats the point

[supple mesa]

So I don work through it with the BarroneX and Aloe Death without needing another monster, I mean I finished Don Canine w only him

[glass monolith]

all ur ideas always just seem like minor changes lol

[wooden token]

Bruh

U literally said 300 before

Wut

[left stag]

thats on speeding breeds

and that was yesterday

[wooden token]

🤦

[left stag]

[wooden token]

Oh lmao

[left stag]

ON SPEEDING BREEDS

[wooden token]

U dont prepare breeding guardian?

[left stag]

WAIT MY B I MEANT SPEEDING HATCHES

[wooden token]

So u spent 300 one day, and 400 more….

[left stag]

sorry

[wooden token]

Whyyyyy

Just buy the f-ing chest lmao

[left stag]

idkkkkkkkk i wish i hadnt lol

[wooden token]

350 gems

Bruh rip

[left stag]

i realized that much later

[slim sedge]

I wonder how many gems I spent on fossi breeding

I know it's less than 350

[left stag]

plus i didnt even get foss yet

[wooden token]

250 for the monster 😎

[slim sedge]

and I'm getting 2 Fossi

also gonna speed through his quest dungeon

[grand valve]

gigachad

[clear stump]

how do you nerf it by 500%. last time i checked it doesn't give you -240k power

[grand haven]

NEW: Power Armor nerf: Increases wearer's power by 60k points -> Decreases wearer's power by 240k points

[wooden token]

Bruh

Someone give me a reason why they put no to my feedback

Just curious

Y’all wanna wait 5mins for a lvl2 rune to finish crafting?

If y’all actually tried having race prep done you would know it shouldn’t take a level 2 rune crafting to take 5mins

It’s just time consuming for some useless rune

[clear stump]

its not that big of a deal anyways... and better yet, during race time it only takes 5s anyways

[wooden token]

Yea but u can’t prepare everything when race starts right?

Runes*

Imagine crafting like 200 runes on the day of the race

[grand haven]

I mean, people usually never craft level 2 runes every time because events and how easily you get it, and the only time you would really need to craft it is either race tasks or daily missions

[wooden token]

So if it’s that worthless then why not make it take less time lmao

5mins for a level 2 rune like damn

[grand haven]

worthless = people never complain and accept it as it is because they never use it = SP not doing anything about it

[wooden token]

Mmm ig

[grand haven]

Unless 100 people complain nothing's gonna change because SP never listens to a single person complaining

[rain spire]

@west drum NO

[west drum]

Why?

[rain spire]

just no

besides everyone else will we not so nice to you

plus wrong channel

and it gives anime po PTSD

[west drum]

But

[rain spire]

@grizzled adder wut

[rain spire]

but what

[west drum]

I plan to make what I want come true at all costs

[slim sedge]

good luck lmao

you'll need to work at SP to make a technoblade monster ever happen

[rain spire]

dont they also have to give techno the offer to join

[slim sedge]

well yes, that's if they want to sponsor him

[west drum]

I will work in SP if necessary

[orchid lodge]

@west drum nerd

[rain spire]

neat

[slim sedge]

good luck getting a high enough position needed to even have the sponsor be considered

[rain spire]

lol

[west drum]

I'll take care of that

[rain spire]

plus im sure they wouldnt make Techno op as hell

[slim sedge]

what you gonna do, hold him at gunpoint?

[orchid lodge]

Sponser doesn’t guarantee a monster
Monster doesn’t need a sponser either
Unless I’m legally blind I’ve never seen Jacksepticeye nor Dream endorse monster legends

[rain spire]

Jack and Dream did make sponsor in their videos

[orchid lodge]

huh neat

imma go check it out

[slim sedge]

also they get emailed about the sponsor anyway

[rain spire]

along with Vanoss, George, Sap, MMO and the Vanoss Crew

also Nogla when

[west drum]

...

I am not interested in what you say, are you all I can to get it and if it bothers you, can you let me continue?

[slim sedge]

oh no, he's resorted to making no grammatical sense

[rain spire]

bruh

[west drum]

well if you excuse me, I will continue to do my thing

[rain spire]

yeah im not sure if EVERYONE is going to like your Technoblade idea

[slim sedge]

I think the best thing to do it to just ignore them and everything they say

[rain spire]

staying out of the warzone huh

grabs ak well time to wait

[eternal vessel]

No technoblade monster 🗿

[west drum]

Why?

[eternal vessel]

[grand haven]

every channel used to be flooded with technoblade ideas

idea section got hit the hardest

so much so that the idea is banned

[eternal vessel]

And money

[eternal vessel]

They do endorse it

[grand haven]

Look, I know technoblade is going through a hard time right now, but I don't think the thing he wants is one of his fans pursuing the thought of taking over Social Point to give him a sponsor he probably wouldn't accept.

[eternal vessel]

I've seen the videos where they do it

[orchid lodge]

lmao technoblade monster is banned it says so in pins

[west drum]

at least i try what i want

[orchid lodge]

wait nvm i’m stupid lmao
even then wrong channel i’m totally right
i’m just gonna leave now

[eternal vessel]

It literaly says no technoblade monster in the pins

[grand haven]

No, you're just blatantly ignoring rules.

[orchid lodge]

implies to all monsters

[eternal vessel]

True but it specifically mentions techno itself

[orchid lodge]

gottem

[rain spire]

and perhaps other popular youtubers

[clear stump]

Now you're being a little bit insulting to me by ignoring the rules I made to help everyone:/ sniped your idea.

[eternal vessel]

Doesnt that mean your stats get boosted or something?

[slim bough]

In my opinion, the nerf to Power Armour was too much. Yes it was extremely powerful as it was pre-nerf, however, right now it’s quite weak. A level 40 Lazarbeam’s sword giving 10800 power after 2 turns, or if you have an ET move, instantly. Which is close to the 12k PA at rank 5 gives

So I believe Power Armour should have its numbers bumped up by either 50% or 100%. As where it stands now, Hidden Shiv is much better and it is almost outclassed by a craftable Diamond sword.

[signal lance]

Yup

Someone was that desperate to have a Technoblade monster

Well will you still make it?

Sure why not

I still need to finish my other trio anyways

Bring this to #monster-ideas

[clear stump]

this channel is just always a blessing

[grand haven]

blessing of stupidity and arrogance

[rain spire]

blessing of ignorance and intensity

[clear stump]

a blessing no matter what.

[grand haven]

damn that sounded like poetry

[rain spire]

Watch as someone make poetry of this channel

[uncut oracle]

So I bought the legends pass for the soul reason of getting the power armour that gives 15k points of strength, and now they’ve gone ahead and nerfed it so much to the point it’s not needed. Like SP just made me waste my money and a trash monster basically. Not happy and I want them to either change it back or give me a refund since I wasted $30 on that crap.

I mean surely this is bs and they can’t do that

[rain spire]

well at least you gems and better stuff

[grand haven]

Great... another one.
Buddy, look. I know the talent and the monster is trash now, but can you just look at the bigger picture?
You're getting a level 10 rune, 300 gems, a cosmic monster, hatching boosts, resources boost, an extra hatchery slot, maze tickets to help you currently in this event right now, 10x the rewards that f2p are going to get, discounts, and more. You still have twice the advantage you can have against f2p, and you're giving it up because new talent got nerfed.
The new talent was broken, so was all the old ones. I should complain that they're not nerfing any of the old ones as well. If you buy a pass for the purpose of getting ahead in pvp, guess what? You already did. The exclusive monster and talent is just a bonus. No one's gonna give you a refund just because you dislike the talent because the talent is a fraction of what the pass gives. Buff it a little bit? I'll allow it. But wanting a refund over something this stupid is where I get mad. If you spent money only on Nathura, then I would justify the refund, but you want a refund on the entire pass that you choose to ignore because the talent's the main part of the show apparently. It's like spending money on a concert filled with famous singers, but when that one singer that you like apparently doesn't show up, you want a refund even though you're halfway through. You act like they scammed you, but in truth they never did.

[rain spire]

and besides the whole agruement of the nerf talent and multiple demands of refunds is just stupid

[violet heron]

^^

[uncut oracle]

I think it’s still a tad stupid.

[violet heron]

it was too OP.

60k damage boost with a 3x 10 level strength runes is enough to wreck havoc anything

[uncut oracle]

UA is such an op talent, much more op than this and that hasn’t been touched, so dumb.

[violet heron]

well, anticipation and shock does exist

same for AZ, immune to control exists as well

[uncut oracle]

UA can just make u kill the whole team unless the other team has anticipation which isn’t very likely

[grand haven]

They released 8 anticipation monsters that whole corrupted era.

[violet heron]

^^

including burnex who was easily able tog et

but sucks as a whole

[grand haven]

Not to mention a Shock talent, multiple talent that deals massive damage to the attacker and more.

[violet heron]

^^

[uncut oracle]

I think they should atleast buff it a little bit.

[violet heron]

@grand haven , how much does Power Armor nowb uff

buff*

[grand haven]

it's 12k, very low.

[violet heron]

12k

hmm

imagine if you're like f2p and got wreck havoc by someone with r5 power armor

is that fun?

[grand haven]

I don't need to imagine, I am one.

also it's 12k at rank 5.

[violet heron]

oh

that is pretty low then

[uncut oracle]

I used to get 120k all up with a R4 killdrill with 2 lvl 7 runes and 1 lvl 9 rune - all strength. And now I’m getting 90k which was achievable without power armour before this season was even out

[violet heron]

if it was like 15 or 20k it'd be understandable

[grand haven]

It does need a little buff, yes, considering 2 lazarbeam's swords at max level could reach close to that number.

[violet heron]

wait dead chat

how much uses for it?

[grand haven]

I don't know, I don't have it.

[violet heron]

Ow doe

[rain spire]

so…yeah

[grand haven]

1 use

I searched on the wiki

[violet heron]

imagine if it got 2 uses

[rain spire]

Armor nerfed, cant do anything about it, deal with it now shut it with this

[violet heron]

yep

[uncut oracle]

The one legends pass I buy is the one that gets significantly nerfed, what a joke.

[grand haven]

just realized 2 lazarbeam's swords actually can boost your power by 20k

[violet heron]

[rain spire]

again, u cant do anything about it and sp doesnt care

[grand haven]

Sucks to be you.

[violet heron]

yep.

sp doesn't care, typical SP

[grand haven]

And a wonderful day to be me.

[rain spire]

normally if i do, i really dont care about it

[uncut oracle]

Coz they love money and that’s all they care about

[rain spire]

true

[shrewd inlet]

[uncut oracle]

They don’t care about the community

[violet heron]

sucks to be you, but true fax though

[rain spire]

but no close as worse as ea

[grand haven]

I'll be honest though, they're slowly learning to listen to the community.

[violet heron]

indeed

[grand haven]

slowly.

So some improvements there.

[violet heron]

except for this time they don't put a beast shard dungeons

[grand haven]

Classic SP momen

[violet heron]

indeed

[rain spire]

what you meant by slowly is by starting slowly at the abyss

[violet heron]

[uncut oracle]

Anyway I’m off, gonna take a break from this pay to win game

[violet heron]

who asked but whatever

[rain spire]

improvements….removed the items, made lutum and stardust impossible, kill off Battlegrounds, made broken monsters

[violet heron]

added a very fun event with a lot of useless bots

[rain spire]

u do that while i rush the adventure map

[violet heron]

bounty hunt is like the best event

[rain spire]

TRUE

[grand haven]

It's like if I committed mass genocide but I'm redeeming myself by giving $3 of counterfeit money to the poor

[violet heron]

except for the fact that useless bots and sniper can be annoying though

[rain spire]

the fact i made a monster idea when hes a genocidal monster that kills for very simple reasons but adopts chuckle muckel (again thats my monster idea)

very redeemable

[violet heron]

yes

[grand haven]

speaking of which, I'm going back to my era saga writing now

Power Armor deserves to get nerfed, if anyone wants a refund they can take their money and shove it

[violet heron]

[rain spire]

[violet heron]

sad to see mari gone, if she's here she would delete all the refund post because armor power got nerfed

[rain spire]

ima work on another Gods Era saga cutscene

[rain spire]

true

[grand haven]

true

[rain spire]

wish she gave someone else the job

[grand haven]

me

[violet heron]

and will sp ever recruit staff team for discord? probably no.

[rain spire]

does Fox count?

[violet heron]

dk**

[rain spire]

if Fox gets added in the game watch Isabelle, DeathChabel, Mari get added

[violet heron]

lol

[rain spire]

EVEN ROCKS

[uncut oracle]

Is there any other way to contact sp apart from writing a review?

[rain spire]

not sure

[rain spire]

watch someone puts “beginner book…please”

[clear stump]

Mari deserves a monster, I'm not even gonna lie

Darth too but Mari just as much

[signal lance]

I personally think that they just forgot to add it in this week and I just think that next week it will be added

[signal lance]

I wanna see the Isabelle and Mari monsters

[rain spire]

same mari deserves it

now excuse me you woke me up in my sleep gn

time to tie the noose again

[wooden token]

Recyclops

And you can’t really make a monster for a person who don’t rlly have a ‘theme’ or anything

Like what can be a monster for.Mari???

Or Isabelle??

[grand haven]

:D

[grand haven]

you can search up both of them in #monster-ideas

[wooden token]

Ah

[orchid lodge]

@karmic fable if you don’t want your r5 to get cells then don’t use it

[signal lance]

@karmic fableDid you have to say that in multiple messages?

Prepare for a mute

Since that is considered Spamming

[violet heron]

@supple mesa i don't think it's a good idea

pretty much people don't need war coins and medals

and despite that, 2 billion health is something...

too OP

[signal lance]

I can guarantee you if we struggle with beating a fugitive with 800 Mil health we sure as hell aint going to kill one with 2 Billion health

[wooden token]

True

[supple mesa]

That’s why it’s a team thing with 30 players. And it’s a mega taunt meaning you use area skills t your advantage.

[signal lance]

Assuming its just 1 monster Area skills will only do the regular amount of damage

[wooden token]

U mean bh coins not war coins right?

[signal lance]

Unless you plan to make it a 3v3

[wooden token]

Says in submit ideas war coins

[signal lance]

In Which case I doubt 30 players can take out a monster with 2 Billion HP

[slim sedge]

people really be underestimating how much 2 Billion is

also overestimating the usefulness of all 30 players

[signal lance]

Guarantee you half of them won't even have the monsters necessary to deal high damage

[slim sedge]

if the thing includes everyone who takes part then chances are, people will get stuck with players with trash monsters

[lean aspen]

assuming that they'll do anything at all

[grand haven]

If all 30 members of your team can somehow do 10M each then you'll need 7 tries each to deal 2 billion

[storm falcon]

Alot of teams are probably capable of that tbh

But yeah not many teams

[orchid lodge]

skill issue

[clever spindle]

🗿

[signal lance]

@flint moon Why are you ranking up Corrupteds with Nebula?

[rain spire]

yeah who does that

gives Influxer nebula

[signal lance]

Nah man Royal Magus

[rain spire]

nah man Dielab

[supple mesa]

top 1000 teams would easily be able to

[grand haven]

And what about the rest?

This is a scenario where all members have extremely good monsters and good AI that does the correct moveset.

For each member, for 7 tries.

Not to mention sometimes the AI already calculated the damage and force your monsters to recharge.

[supple mesa]

you have more than 7 tries, first of all, secondly, its a megataunt and the way it works is that it absorbs all the damage, thats y ppl use tayni. it hp is basicaly 670M. the Ai will make mistakes but ppl will still be able to do high damage. the point of it is to make it difficult

[signal lance]

@supple mesaDo you know how Mega taunt works?. Mega Taunt works by having the monster take damage EQUAL to the amount of allies still alive

So if the Mega taunt monster is the only monster alive then it will only take 1 hit

Thats why I said unless you plan to make that a 3v3 battle good luck

Also so what if you have more then 7 tries? Thats still going to take a boat load of time and like what Dead Chat said the AI can just mess up

Also who the hell uses Tayni? Unless your a new player there is no reason to use Tayni

[rain spire]

he does have AoE PER but still

is like someone asking who even uses morgz

[signal lance]

You know to this day I still keep thinking Tayni is a She

[rain spire]

i still think Hornet is a she until i realized hornet is a dude

[signal lance]

Actually

Looking at his Idea

The monsters have no way to counter ET

I could literally just bring Ingwe, Charmless and Steam Wrath and win

Hell I could get away with Steam + Ferrus

[orchid lodge]

my bae

[rain spire]

then i bring Stal and Hammer

[flint moon]

what do you use to rank up corrupteds then, lutum?

[signal lance]

Yes

Hell You should be saving up your Nebula not spending them on Monsters that will get outclassed

[orchid lodge]

b-but pp

[signal lance]

PP, Chi Ao Loong and Pangoliath are the only monsters worth using Lutum on

[left stag]

I GOT FOSS AFTER 11 TRIES AND 700 GEMS

[clear stump]

A moderate amount of pog

[flint moon]

not a lot of us have 3 rank 3-5 corrupteds to play the lutum dungeon fully, plus it's only 30 everyday (assuming you dont buy 9k lutum for hundreds of $)

if you solely depend on lutum dungeon to rank up a corrupted it's gonna take a year to get 9k ;)

[clear stump]

In fairness, PVP is probably the easiest way to get higher rank mythics - especially for free. Yes they are often lacklustre, but they will probably suffice in that dungeon. Lutum dungeon was also not the sole (and certainly not the primary) source of Lutum. Titan dungeon gave you what, 1200 a week? Not amazing, but certainly not the worst - rank 0 to rank 5 mythic after 2 months or so. You've also gotta understand that Nebula is the primary all-encompassing rank up resource for the moment, and you can't be using it on monsters who may very well be outclassed within a month by something twice as insanely broken, especially with the previous era throwing curveballs the way it did. Save your nebula, and if you're that desperate to rank up a Corrupted using it then wait a short while so we can actually see decent material from the current era, rather than gambling and hoping that your monster remains top-notch in its niche.

[signal lance]

You are literally wasting the most valuable resources necessary for ranking up the current Era monsters for old monsters that like what Isabelle has said would be out classed in a few months

What if a monster with a broken trait or gimmick comes out but you wasted all your nebula on corrupteds

What are you going to do then?

[flint moon]

what i meant is to use nebula to rank up dragon or pandalf or something

those will surely be meta for couple eras right

[signal lance]

Doubt

Pure Pandalf has a chance to be META for a few Eras but Chi is going to get out sped fast

[clear stump]

Pandalf is probably more viable in the long run than Chi in all honesty

[signal lance]

You are 100% correct in that statement

[flint moon]

chi relies on speed more imo, pandalf has much better skills and traits, some good rune-ing will do

[signal lance]

What rank is your Pure Pandalf

[clear stump]

Chis meta viability relies solely on speed and not being outspwd, or having a TT with the appropriate protection. If he's outsped then he wont deny, if his TT isn't protected he may get blasted by anti. (Yes uriels exist, but sometimes a DOT could kill you costing you your turn)

[flint moon]

3

[signal lance]

Yeah your screwed

[flint moon]

started playing around when titan dungeon phased out

sad lol

[clear stump]

Pandalf can't really have "better skills" given PP and Chi are different roles

Chis skills suit AZ in particular pretty dang well, which leads to that being a stupidly common setup

Pandalf I don't know if he has any synergy with any talents other than say, DF or smite lol

And you can't really use him as a TT to Chi given Chi faster

[flint moon]

im only investing nebula and lutum on pandalf tho

need that area evasion :p

[signal lance]

What is they release a better monster 2 months later

[signal lance]

Get a Warmaster Elvira then

[clear stump]

^

[flint moon]

it doesnt do much other than evasion, although yes its easier to get

then again, pandalf can do much much more

[clear stump]

Without an actual good source of Lutum you're probably better off using Elvira. Stalls much better too at level 4

Dinno I feel you're missing our point.

[signal lance]

You could also try for the leaked monster Gahy zhul

[flint moon]

dont really need to invest nebula on metros since theres the rank up dungeon, and pandalf is one of the only past monsters worth investing in

so i dont mind 😂

[clear stump]

I feel like your statements will bite you on the bum when there's a monster you can only get low ranked and have to rank it quickly, and manually.

[flint moon]

why quickly

[rain spire]

so youre like me huh

[signal lance]

I give this dude 2 months before he regrets that decision to waste Nebula

[flint moon]

what else would you spend your nebula on then 😂

[clear stump]

Bc I don't recall any monsters viability going "up" with time except Elvira, Santa and Neobuki. Up being in emphasised quotation mark.

[rain spire]

rlly, you told dis guy not to waste but still does for whole months

[clear stump]

A Metro Era monster

[signal lance]

Gahy Zhul and Foss

[flint moon]

when theres a rank up dungon

[signal lance]

Like those 2 are the only Metros worth investing Nebula in

[signal lance]

Dude that dungeon is completely RNG dependant

You could go through the entire dungeon and not get the monster you need

[clear stump]

And that dungeon only gives yo uso much per day. Nebula gives you the freedom to get as high as you want as quick as you want.

You could, theoretically, go a whole month getting next to no cells for your favourite Metro monster, and not be able to rank it up. And that would be the consequences you face for wasting Nebula

[rain spire]

note that the angel and yellow child are now permanently screwed because of Stal being f2p in BH

[flint moon]

yellow child 😂 😂

[clear stump]

Eh, give it a few months. Any and Every pierce screws that strat over

[signal lance]

Very sure they were dead the moment Spek was a thing

[rain spire]

still tho

[clear stump]

Very sure they were dead the moment Vanoss2099 was a thing

[rain spire]

stal and spek are high tiers