#ideas-feedback-discussion
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I kinda understand your point
but it's been like 2 years, let the f2p have their fun
I wan't my R4 Thundeer and Korruptus and I will have it
Where did my idea go
depends, what was it @karmic fable
Having a setting to change how the game looks. Basically a setting that changed how everything looked before the big revamp
over suggested
ah ok
Have the devs responded to it?
The original idea
Not mine
no, but they don't like repeated ideas
I wish it was a thing
It would bring so much nostalgia
Let me make a small correction, so to speak. It's not the devs that dislike repeated ideas, its the idea's department of discord - we are not devs. We disallow them because we don't need to repost the same thing worded differently in voting channel, its as time consuming ss it is ๐ thankfully search functioncexists and with the right words and filters, you can easily hone in on what idea you want to upvote quicker than you would suggesting your idea again anyways.
@crude jacinth that radiation removing 20% life and stamina and had a chance of spreading is literally curse and the fact that your suggestion said the radiation should last forever
Hey look its a joke Feed back again
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Why people are complaining about giving P2W insane rewards and make being F2P a sin
glad someone agrees
I didn't get them ranked up p2w
I used gems from monsterwood for breeding events and team shop for cells
ah
And I was feeling kinda proud of myself for getting r4 korruptus this week
Then the update appeared
Imo spending money should only speed up your progress, so such change is what should have happened, and should have happened long ago
And now I feel so irritated
Especially when forsakens are useless nowadays
also they're good for L gem dungeon
Pumpseed is the most special, but isnt the best and isnt good
They're more like collectors
Which u can grind for
Even so they arent necessary
Collection
Some ppl play this game for collection
You can ask support, but i doubt that they will return them
There's no reason to give it back lmao
Should have been more patient
But 2k gems is kinda a lot
No I just nvr thought they would actually give us forsakens for rankings now
I originally wanted it that way a few months ago
Before I spent 2k gems
After seeing nothing was gonna change
@wooden token 25 lutum, 25 stardust, 25 amber, not 10. 
Huge difference! Thanks ๐
Dont know where id be without you man
Lmao
Always glad to help 
@lime ice why was my feedback removed
Yours was i believe sarcastic and responding to previous feedback
I suggest to reduce the cost of rent for the pods too
Only for some time so we can rank up quickly
I still have around 5 corrupted monsters to rank up
@topaz sinew taunt immunity?
And whats dexterity
"Man forgot he died, came back to life cooking dinner for family"
neither
i never addressed anyone else and it wasnt sarcastic
@main night there is a "claim all" button for GLP, it's just unavailable until after pass ends
I started the one on the left 4 hours ago. I started the one on the right 2 minutes ago. :(
Dratis is Cosmic
Gobzlayer is Corrupted
The half-time-off event only applies to Corrupted monsters

I didn't even know there was a half off until I started ranking him.
Let alone that it only applied to Corrupted monsters
I wonder how many of ML players frequent these pages, let alone frequent them frequently. Especially the kids who play this game. Can't understand why "we said what was happening in our social media though" is acceptable to anyone
communication has been an issue for SP for many many many years
the only emergency/on-the-fly updates are tucked away in the setting section that a lot of people will not touch
why did you waste ur gems for the second slot
less costly than skipping dratis rank
20 gems vs 12
oh
Why even post it here if you know bugs channels exist
Thats why i asked
I read around here and found out it wasn't a bug, so thought I'd post it in feedback discussion instead, since someone else complained about the lack of warning and I didn't want to duplicate
I always have 3 monsters crafting and ranking... Cos, meh
What else to use gems for
not exactly, i'm afraid
OK so picture this
You have played for 5 years, and you have payed since Nemesis were released
You have mountains of legendary habitats and a good selection of mythics
You have an appropriate gold production and so many favourites, some that you paid a lot of money for
ohhh
But then they're all gone. Poof.
ouch.
yeah, i didn't think about people having paid a bunch of real money for that stuff
hol on what is that idea
Your gold production tanks horribly. Your favourites are now memories and your current Mythics are much weaker.
Its just too drastic of a move to ever be balanced
Ah, that makes sense
I'm sorry, I really didn't think that idea through tbh
plus wyrmlad will be ded
It's alright
Elvira would also be dead
my prisoner would also be dead
and glitch
lol i don't think i deleted any dupes yesterday
might have been 2 or 3 in the morning
@viral swallow Discuss Ideas here
Ok
Lol I forgot
@karmic fable ur idea is not acceptable
From ur idea- The 99.9% chance needs to be commons/ uncommons
Or people get 1 Metropolitan monster per day
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15%
so 75% I think
@glacial dragon they said it was temporary in the first place
that is not how the information got to me
what
This is how I first heard about it, no I don't know where this is from unfortunately
cuz there is no communication between SP and MLO staff
I don't even know who it is that said that, but it seemed to be that that message came from someone official, and with the words "but since OTs won't be getting updated" it seemed to pretty clearly indicate that the no OT slot was a permanent thing
Community manager said that. Here it is https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/18808/get-ready-for-the-metropolitan-era
Thanks @void raft ... So yeah. Thus my feedback
post on forum appeared 3 days before this
all it says it they wont update them
ranking your monster from R0 to R1 won't give you that extra slot
nobody said it is going to be temporary back then
@slim sedge can you stop immitating my 4 year old child with your downvotes on every feedback? Thanks
tell people to stop upvoting their own feedbacks then 
well, no? The feedback doesn't get an automatic upvote from the poster, so yeah you should upvote your own feedback
not doing so is stupid, as is your pathetic clamor for attention downvoting them all
are you really THAT upset that your feedback has a single downvote
either way, I'll keep doing what I keep doing as long as people keep upvoting their own feedback
i mean u do wat u do
imagine upvoting your own feedback
@sour vortex that effect is useless because recharge exists
It could be combined with possession/corruption
Why does total damage reduction exist??
Well, then possessed/corrupted monster would heal himself/his allies by attacking them
Total damage reduction isnt useless, especially in corrupted era of attackers
Then make it only heal itโs enemies
Not allies
Because yeah, then itโd be useless
Ah
If possessed/corrupted it would only heal own team
Alright alright
I read through some of the feedback, but am interested even more in the ones that get downvoted, because it points to the potential that someone has a difference of opinion. But then you're just being a --------, and you probably coast through life thinking you're cool, so I thought I'd call you out on being a --------. It's a computer game, where people try to have fun. Get a life.
I'll be what I want, don't need a fellow no lifer like you trying to tell me how to act in mlo, if you really care that much just leave or make your own mlo
i mean Terrarian is not wrong
Terrarian doesnt have follow the way you want him to be because he can downvote a feedback if he wants to
@karmic fable what do you mean "relics rule"
monsters can only equip specific types of relics anyways
Wait
Make Rules in team war
You definitely could explain better
Do you want only certain type of relics to be allowed in team wars?
@tulip fern i dont understand your idea
@tulip fern language is changeable in settings
I cant find it1!1!1๐ฅถ ๐
@native scroll put that in #monster-ideas if you want to make a mythic utochomp and remove it from there
I want mythic utochomp
Then use the correct channel.
make ur self in the right channel
@lusty junco stick that in feedback please
No imo
no its bad
why are you so angry about them downvoting feedback? nothings going to happen
@karmic fable its not a good Idea. Literally relics restrictions just make the war way to hard because now we can't even use monsters correctly since they don't have a relic. Literally this screws players who don't have good monsters with the restricted relics
idk I just feel like there isn't a high risk high reward type of thing inside ML
oh wait
I didn't include that
Uh amazing, I would make my desired time every 5 seconds and get 1000 gems every time it refreshes

@karmic fable So basically we fight this monster and if we lose our monster is just gone
Wow if I didn't see a horrible Idea I did now
Because our monsters that we used to fight that monster is gone
What if we spent money on it? Now its gone
you risk your monster to get enough resources to buy more monsters possibly?
Wow buying monsters
Then it's probably your fault for risking it in the first place
oh yeah ik im like a day late but legendaries are still used in Legendary-restricted 4 Team Wars
Jesus christ I feel bad for the ones that fail in that dungeon
tbh is a bad idea because losing will make you lose your monsters forever unless you buy them
as I said, it's a high risk high reward, the rewards are equal to the risk
Like that could be 100$ of dollars gone
the rewards can be 1000 gems or less
ah
forgot, sorry
High risk, High reward? 1000 gems ain't gonna cut losing a 150 monster
@foggy summit over suggested idea
Another 15% so 90%
So maybe more then?
why lose the monster
that's just overkill
i haven't really seen that idea but makes sense
For the love of God try balancing it
How about rewards adjusted to the mean level of all your monsters you choose to fight the boss with
i just want some other stuff other than team wars to do with teams
Make it like a Titan dungeon
maybe ranks can be taken into consideration
You get 5 chances after that you can't fight it for the rest of the week
BUT Remove the losing a monster part
the one where it resets your level
Resets your level? So great now we have to farm up Millions of food to get our monster back
Its no problem for end game but mid to early? Yeah that monster is gone
this sounds like the titan dungeon but with different rewards
Hey its better than losing the monster itself
true
Man not even the whales would try doing that dungeon if it meant that they lose the monster
Some players are just chilling with billions of food, we need some sort of a way to at least make them risk their billions to earn some billions
otherwise they'll be sitting at billions, and will always be OP in every single era
Those players fit in the high end
I feel like your just jealous that they have Billions of food while you don't
nah
Its just that, every era, they just have all the resources to do everything it almost has become a routine
whether it's spending gems to skip races, crafting runes for the runes events, with thousands of level 1s
So your Idea is to make them spend food knowing very well that they can make that food back in less that a few hours
they can right? so what's so bad about having one of your monster's level reset then?
or even losing one?
Because that's screws the F2P and lower level players
If you lose one it harms everyone since now Hundreds of Dollars are gone in an instant
Then they should use monsters that they didn't spend hundreds of dollars on
Before you say "But every new Era bla bla bla" at the very least you get to keep the monster with this its gone
Wow you really think thats whats going to happen?
That's like saying, "Oh no I have a chance of losing this really cool monster I spent $100 on. But I'm gonna do it anyways." Then complaining after you lose it
No one in their right mind is going to try that dungeon since the risk is to high if you lose the monster
alright lol
Not having this
thanks for the feedback anyways
@grand haven if you wanna deal with this by all means feel free
"deal with this" you make it sound like they committed a crime by submitting an idea

It is

Making the game less fun for ftp like me and people who have been playing since the start? @karmic fable, I can tell you single handedly that 1000s if not 10000s will quit the game if that kind of dungeon is made. Including me
So go sit happily with ur nitro thinking u are so big-brained coming up with ideas and that won't affect you. (Quite toxic of me, sorry. Just wanted to spill my feelings yknow?)
Read through
Realised too toxic
And fixed it up

Sos
Lol
TBH the more I look at it the monster being reset to say level 5 is more reasonable than losing it
Yh
But still pretty unreasonable as the billion food players can get it back really quickly
True
Only marginally better
Saying you lose it if u lose the dungeon is like u lose the monster gram + library entry if u sell a monster. Similarity? Both are extremely annoying
nobody gives a monkeys if your f2p or not
When someone makes an Idea its best to think about both F2P and P2P so either way being F2P does matter when you make an Idea
make a fun idea. no need to have a strop because you arent willing to spend money

Thanks for the upvote kind stranger
Lol
its not sarcasm btw it is my honest opinion

@karmic fable your idea sounds fun
Until it doesn't
What makes you think losing a monster or resetting a monster could be good?
It's gonna be extremely annoying to every single player
Not just f2p
Apparently its because he thinks its a High Risk, High reward kind of thing
I don't care how high a reward may be
yeah losing a monster because of it is just dumb
OK I think the point was made about how it isn't good
We don't need to rant for hours on end
I mean none of this would've come up if they just remove the whole losing/resetting a monster thing
Because it looks like a fun idea
If people don't like it then they can downvote it or upvote it
Guess I'll wait until it gets to #ideas-voting 
a little fact, Isabelle said that he adds the ideas in ideas-voting tomorrow, and a tommorow lasts more than 3 or 4 weeks. So tomorrow = +3 Weeks in before adding the ideas in #ideas-voting
I am trying to push to simplify it a bit
Make it easier for ideas department
@quick trail that has been suggested before, I have removed it
Also something I would adore seeing in game
Ohh I dint know it was already in the ideas list.
Today after doing 2000 clicks I lost the interest to buy them anymore. And my finger starts to hurt๐
At that point I'd have just said "Hey little brother, press this button 2000 times and I';l buy you an ice cream" or something ๐คฃ
@signal lance
LoL ๐
It's make interesting
What
@signal lance
What?
@signal lance
Relics rules in war .
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Yeah no
All that does is screw players over who have to somehow make a team with a Monster that is missing relics
Wait
Edited suggestion since some people are butthurt
he could mean like, only use monsters that can hold a shield,essence,sword,etc
Yeah here is the thing. What if the player doesn't have a monster that is good enough to fit the Element/Book restriction + the new Relic restriction
then same as if you didnt have a monster from one of the book/elements, u just wouldnt fill that slot in your team
Great so wars will be easy for the ones that do and annoying for the ones that don't
ig, but commons can still hold 1 relic
so that helps if the beginner joins a new team
or a team in like silver 3
Commons really. Your asking the F2P to build a common monster just for a war attacks
Commons might I add that get 1 tapped from relic damage alone
wait lol i read it as "doesnt have a monster" that fits it not "if a person doesnt have a good enough monster" well then i guess the person has to try to get a decent mythic for that relic requirement
Exactly they now have to get a Mythic that will fit a specific Relic, Element and even book to even do decent in Wars
in the corrupted era we had good f2p monsters for all slots, tho good point, it would be a pain to have to keep up with the meta while getting good monsters for every slot
especially for f2p players
Actually for the Corrupted era the only F2P banner holder we have is Magus
The other is Monstera a P2W monster
oh rlly? i thought there was another one
Yeah the only F2P banner Holder is Magus while Monstera is P2W
oh... yea that sucks then, even if this new season brings some monsters that can hold banners they probably will get weaker throughout the era
Exactly
ok yea, now i agree, it would suck
@karmic fable #monster-ideas
?
put your "idea" from #submit-ideas to #monster-ideas
Ok
I'm late but man that idea sucks
Also f2p monsters aren't usually the greatest so people would use op p2w monsters 
The only p2w monster r the pass monsters and bounty hunt monster cus the others are f2p
BH is f2p tho
@wild flumeHe was talking about the Exclusive BH monster
Actually Marlinaut straight up sucks
Let me check if i should
discord wasnt loading so it looked like it 

@wooden token pierce is meant to bypass mega taunt
as for mt getting removed, it's probably dispelling fist

I knowโฆ
Im saying the monsters act like they have pierce
But they dont
Itโs so annoying
might have something to do with this
i didn't know about that issue
They dont attack oli they attack every other monster
Yeah
Ive lost about 200 today trophies just from that
- every other day
So is it permenant?
Yeah
oh look a idea for removing AI in bh
nomnomnom30%nomnomnomnom
I thought it was removed i didnt even knew it was there
I'm so disappointed
โthe titan dungeon still appear in the next eraโ
im bit confused
It means they're just straight up lying
oh
those lying bastards
I was looking forward to 150 chi this weekend and now this
@dense quail read the rules. do not share Support messages in this server. thanks.
Support arent head devs and they don't commandeer what happens in game
Ok
That just means communication is messed up
but isnt Nebula used for all Mythic generations
If they canโt agree on the same thing
Yes, but you'd prefer to use it on the new generation rather than the old ones for obvious reasons.
hm
no they were not
go to the dungeons, scroll across
if you scrolled up it even shows you

Hm
It's in a different section
Fair enough
I'm blind for that but definitely not for reading support messages properly
Isabelle = Wumpus
isabelle feedback went from explaining what was wrong in detail to "please change I hate it for the love of god it's hideous"
it really is just so damn ugly, it's worse than i anticipated
what was ugly
not to me tbh
the design is both too futuristic and not futuristic enough
some islands looks very futuristic, but then the other ones are just basic modern buildings
I mean dont people put futuristic stuff in technologic eras
I think that one island that is completely futuristic is bad out of all
yes but then there's the rest
they became generic buildings
huh
dang i was hoping the new era was going to have a new protangist but im pretty sure that Pandalf is going to be the main protagonist again
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
hopefully voltaik gets the spotlight in this era
isnt that because Petra is half futuristic and half modern
so another really weird design choice
i mean that is Petra looks like now so i guess it was reasonable
I'd be fine with it if the islands were all one design instead of split earth and buildings and the hatchery/farms didn't look like they were made with Ms paint
like, if you wanna make it half futuristic half modern, then make half of the islands futuristic and the rest the way it is
why make it scattered across
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
it's way too crowded and loud
all islands are literally half basic buildings, half natural
if the islands were regular with like solar panels, windows, stairs kinda thing i wouldn't be too concerned but god, i can't even make out half of what i'm looking at it's that horrible 
one of them is a full on building
not to mention the hatchery and farm designs screech "hey design something spacey" with no further thought or research
have I made my point that buildings on roofs doesn't make sense at all?
because good lord do they not make sense at all
out of all, the farms are worst design on the hub world
why make islands become buildings
I am still confused
why make the design choice of having plots of land into roofs
guess the buildings are so huge that it break the laws of size
and the farms aren't even new designs
they literally slapped "futuristic space wallpaper" onto the old design
you know swearing is not allowed here
not an excuse tbh, and also swear evasion
you should said โremove morgzโ
so i have every right to mute you rn
on the feedback
and the problem is
we have a way to deal with dream stans, it's unnecessary to remove a monster because of their fanbase 
and SP dont removes the monsters that JUST got in the game
ya dreamphobic
plus just because dream is in and dream fans are coming doesnt mean that he deserves to be removed
Basically, SP can add whichever youtuber they want
even a bad youtuber and that is a fact
what
wat

yeahโฆwhy
i wouldnโt
@karmic fable agreded
exactly
dream is gay? idk
weโre discussing the bad feedback with swearing
theres no reason to even mention while weโre talking him wanted Dream being removed
kinda
@karmic fable read the rules if you havenโt already
Why is wolfkami needed 
idk
idk but jorge edited in the ping so people wont know

So yeah, the feedback to remove dream is horrible feedback, hell thats not even a feedback
no i agree
Hes probably just looking to get banned 
you realise i can mute
muting time 
cubby you arent allowed rhetorical questions in feedback so sad
and
I'm still pissed about the new design lmao
yeah lets argue that instead of that trashy feedback
i hate the full building and the farms design more
it has so many layers of questionable choices
damn that guy was mad
did he dm or smth
very uh oh language in dms
iโm off to bed hopefully i wake up to seeing him banned
@obsidian lily it gives 565 random cells of the monsters you use in the dungeon daily so you can still rank stuff without the nebula 
like I said, a lot of layers
yeah i saw it
let's move on.
By move on I mean let's talk about the design some more
Did SP knew what they were going for in a futuristic design?
or did they just not have enough time to figure it out?
the fact the eras went like this
Space
Modern with kingdoms
Future and Modern
But do we know if thats so or isnt so for sure? 
he wasn't saying dream is homosexual. 
Theres a video about Dream and George being gay
and its funny
Damn this man got so butthurt over a mute that he had to harass 3 people
whos the third one
Me
whos the other one beside me and you
facts
@lean kelp support can convert extra cells in rank up resource?
Pretty sure they can
The conversion is terrible tho
Pretty sure it's 5 cells of a rank 5 monster = 1 ranking resource of their era
Should ask for a conversation of all famp cells that i got then ๐
bruh the person who said to remove all non-mythics what even
that would make the game literally unplayable for new players
and just make it really bland in general
who said that
TheMemelord5
oh
Usually I don't want do disrespect other's ideas but come on
that was already discussed
That one was a bit too much for me to ignore while scrolling through #submit-ideas lol
@karmic fable read the rules, that suggestion isn't allowed
how do i know if a suggestion isnt allowed

lol
@lunar bramble Check the pins but Adding monster X to book Y. is a banned Idea
@clear stump
@jagged nacelle thats not a thing yet
Just because it was in the leaks doesn't mean it will be added instantly
i know, i thought it would happen when new era starts, i didnt read everything, sorry
#adddielabback
@glacial dragon chests that you got from chests dont contain tickets
don't they? Didn't notice, just assumed. Thanks
Re my recent feedback, it's not like there isn't enough space in the screen to actually explain what the thing is:
(Oh - and "the more you further you go in the dungeon, the more rewards you will be able to autoloot!" ... should be just "the further you go")
that belongs in #bugs-text
@glacial dragon Auto loot works like this. Do you remember the rewards you got the previous nodes? well you can think of Autoloot as a "Pay x amount of gems to double the rewards you got"
But that doesn't explain @signal lance whether I need to pay once and it does it for all nodes (therefore paying at the beginning is the cheapest), or pay each node (then, it's not auto loot, it's extra loot, and it should say "you need to buy each node"), or pay once and that's all you get (whatever you accumulated up to that point)...
@warm wadi how would that make buggy game with trash updates more interesting or less bad?
Nah I just wanna c the movie
Like a prolonged era saga
SP probably make a 10 cent budget movie
Imagine 1.5h movie that looks like era saga
and its only chapter 1
@bronze crag that was suggested billions times before
Oh okay
@sharp silo the lab exists
@rich axle Go to dungeons and scroll to the left
Yeah, I know now
@solemn epoch that's not an idea, that's just feedback/suggestion
its more of an idea to stop eras/power creep i guess
@wet pivot same for you
what was it?
you can play it smart by making your own server and type your idea, if it gets removed than you can edit to remove
I really am surprised how much satisfaction i get for opening a legendary chest
So I think a dungeon to get a guaranteed legendary chest sounds cool
but then you get tons of dupes 
Hey dupes = More Gold Slaves
sell all your legendaries to guarantee no dupes 
you mean gold slaves of higher rank
Can't dupes turn to cells?
I see it as a win
@karmic fable Then you can't do the airplane mode offline trick to see what you get from breedings and to cheat 3 rune slots on skipped monsters 
Also I just gotta quote the last bit "Luckily Social Point Listens to their Community"
Also I don't think the reason it's 4.6 stars is becuz its not an offline game 
Probably for other, very obvious reasons 

@karmic fable could I kindly request that your ideas are text posts and not image based. This makes it much easier to read and put into voting channel.
alright
@latent notch why new element and why wind
i think i saw air/wind element idea at least three times before this one
we've had wind element manymanymanymany times before
@latent notch isabelle is one of ideas' department

does this mean another deleted idea for the count?
yop
Yeah
he believes that upvoted ideas are added to the game
and also we have a new trait now, check Isabelle in #monster-ideas
not all, not many even
what would wind be weak and strong against anyway
weak against Thunder and strong against Water 
Wind would be weak against nothing and strong against itself 
just like Dragon City
imagine a Physical Element
there is no monster with physical element 
Who would be the perfect monster if physical was an actual element
Fun fact for no reason: Metal is the last element to be added later on
physical skills momen
i meant element of monsters, not skills
poor ragnarok
so... physical kid bullying the special kid?
sounds about right 
because the special kid was special
High School Era 
Can't wait for an anti-bullying monster
College Era
wasnt Stunugum one of them
i think his smile is the true reason
@limber delta which monster so I know for future reference when I do it later ๐
Stungumโs smile is probably the real reason why he was bully
stungum still gets bullied for being trash 
and being on E Tier
Stungum: Gets bullied for liking gum
Dies in a gum dispensing machine
Becomes the gum dispensing machine
Gets bullied for being the trashiest gum dispensing machine ever
whats even funnier that he is a exclusive monster, being a waste of money to buy
instead of getting a r5 nemesis at door 90 whales can get a r5 metro monster instead 

I can feel someoneโs pain for wasting that much money for a pointless gum dispensing with a creepy abomination smile as his face
whales and collectors moment
@empty bramble this has been suggested before by chwie with a visual demonstration, perhaps search his name in #ideas-voting using search function ๐
oh didnt know that๐ sorry
sweet ty
@lean kelp Node 12, I forget which monster though

Did someone really just try to get past our banned Ideas list by using the feedback channels
oh didn't realize lol
yo was this new requestable VIP, Elite, etc. cells thing a idea from here? I guess that it might not have been caused by us but I'm sure that it had been suggested here before
if we did cause it tho that's poggers
@topaz sinew that goes to #monster-ideas
@glacial echo sorry - can you explain this a bit further? "people feel scammed after buying UA for 1.4k gems and then only being able to use it for 2 more months" - do you mean Unrelenting Assault? If so, how 1.4k gems & why only use it for 2 more months? Or, whatever else you're talking about - again, why only 2 more months? I feel like I'm missing something
I can answer this. By UA he does actually mean Unrelenting Assault. 1.4k gems was actually the cheapest price tag for players to Buy Sensei Pandaken the monster needed to get Unrelenting Assault. And the people who bought it were only able to use it for 2 months since that was the amount of time the Corrupted era had left before we moved to the Metropolitan Era
I'm not removing my R5 UA spek from defence anytime soon and I bought UA so it was worth it
also VERY good for wars
yeah โ๏ธ - UA is definitely not 'useless' now - at the end of last season I was still battling (in the top 1000 rankings) against Cosmic monsters - e.g. Lindworm - so I don't think it will be any different with Corrupted monsters ...
(I unfortunately missed Sensei Pandaken completely - I don't even remember if I'd started playing this game yet - so I didn't realise he was a gem-bought monster, or I never saw any 1.4k gem purchase offer for him)
Sensei Pandaken was originally a 20$ monster but during ML's birthday event SP made offers to either buy Sensei Pandaken and a few other monsters at R0 for 1.4k gems or 5k gems for the R5 version
ah okay. Yeah I missed that Sensei Pandaken was one of the ones available then ๐คฆ I would definitely have gotten him, don't know how I missed that
how is nanovirus more OP than PEB when there's many more monsters with immune to torture than evasion trait 
Not to mention Pain Distiller exist
given PEB can only be blocked by NER/Evasion/bulwark (these are not the only ways to block nano) i don't see how it's less OP than nano
not that either of them are OP 
@karmic fable I know that this isn't a perfect solution, but because they're X runes, they won't downgrade, so 3x Stamina X runes can easily be turned into Power or Speed runes with 3x Rank1 Power/Speed runes (will be 75% to turn into the L1 Rune type). Again, I know it's not the perfect solution.
rony 
which one's that, Existence?
oh. Yeah, sucks it's only once tbh, I didn't know that, made a typo in the first name, fixed the typo - now stuck with it. Make it cost 100 gems + increasing. But also - people being clowns in teams, leaving/kicked, changing their name, then attempting to get back in again ... would also suck
@inner kindle monster ideas go into #monster-ideas
I have a very old nickname and i want to change it to Vensux
You can ask Customer support
@feral adder you cant just ping everyone and then delete your message 
@low comet i dont see that as a problem
That adds rng, but thats better than a lot of immunities
@crystal flare that seems pointless for a new guardian
You pay food to make more gold you get more gold to make more food and it like cycles
laughs in more than 35 habitats and patience
Also not new
the fact that he wanted Mythic forsakens in the game when Lazar and Wichkah are Forsaken Mythics
well kinda not foresaken anymore
somehow i want the Mythic โforsakensโ to be back as actual forsaken
with
stats would be cool
yeah
prehaps as a โTrue Forsakenโ
its also unfair how Corrupted Wickah has 3 traits when she used to have 5
@jaunty pawn over suggested because its similar to Hatching Guardian
bruh
@clear stump your meal suddenly appeared

I stop counting. Whats the stat boost
2 ideas removed
same ngl
Man I can't update the stats anymore its to much math for my brain
@pallid glacier do you understand how unfair that would make PvP? Whats stoping me from bringing a team of Chi Ao Loong with Smite, Spek with Absolute Zero, Ingwe with Unrelenting Assault, Pangoliath with Spirit battery and Mouseron with Soul Drag? Nothing you basically just ruined pvp
@signal lance well dude it's not my fault that SP has added so much Obsecure talent. many players including has said to Sp to stop making this type of talents and got so many votes but SP is not listening to Us. These obsecure talent a ruined a strategy game and made them a game where powerful wins
What I said was a strategy not a game of powerful monsters and obsecure talent where player with money will win the game
Yes its not your fault that Obsure Talents exist but maybe you should have thought that those things exist when you made the Idea
Strategy you say. wheres the Strategy when the defense teams are triple Anti with 2 MT
@signal lance listen dude it was a idea and I know u have your point of view and u and other player can put it in ideas voting there is no point for me to talk it with every ML player here
@signal lance if u got very free time so it's your choice then but don't tag me
And that makes pvp a lot harder for f2p players. You need 5 r5 monsters all with X runes instead of 3. That's not problem for p2w tho
Actually this is the purpose of this channel. We are discussing ideas here
@void raft it depends on SP matchmaking algorithm and I think is already good
@void raft yeah. U can discuss it without giving any toxic or anger vibes
Imagine fighting a Taunt + Double DA team and finally kill the taunt monster only to have 2 more on the back line waiting for their time to shine
It isnt necessary to ping in each message btw
Increasing amount of monsters that are participating in battle just makes pvp a lot worse for f2p players
The way it works doesnt matter
Yeah I guess I did sound angry and possibly Toxic and for that I apologize
yeah, imagine being f2p and barely killing 3 maxed out SX rune monsters just to have to fight more
firstly, 5v5 was way oversuggested
secondly, rez monsters will become OP
and thirdly, the one where everyone's talking about, the gap between f2p and p2p will grow larger than ever
what's sad is that this game mode would've been fun if SP didn't run this game to the ground with all the paid content
But I still think the gap management between f2p and P2W is SP's team Job
ofc it is
but they want money
and making the game more and more p2w makes them money
so why would they ever stop?
literally the ONLY way that they'd stop is if every one of the top 1000 pvp players in ML decided to just quit
because those are the biggest money makers
Yeah I have seen players always blaming SP for money and other content but compared with legendary era or og mythic era SP has done quite well for F2P player and I started playing legendary league
I have seen SP to work for F2P player like pangoliath, pure pandalf
Not to mention spekthera was a maze monster
Yeah last one month was very horrible for F2P
But I think u should judge SP based on overall content or overall year work
every time f2p gets something good, p2w get something better
also p2w can easily max out the f2p monsters as well
Free battle pass is giving you chance to get 2 7-10 ruins
the f2p content that gets pushed out only strengthen the p2w content
Also the bounty hunt is very good event for F2P
but p2w can get twice as much and an exclusive bounty monster
besides that last one, the rest were brutally overpowered
So there are many work here and there F2P as well p2w
don't forget that p2w also get every f2p monster as well
Yeah but it's not that P2w can't be defeated by f2p
they dug the hole for the f2p so deep that every single time they try to help them climb up, they're consequentially helping the p2w climb higher
We get decent monsters too
The only mistake I think was OP talents that ruins everything for F2P
p2w get those same monsters + the paid monsters as well
yes but compare how easy it is for a f2p to max a good monster compared to p2w
A P2W can max a monster the same day they get it
Imaging saying that SP care about f2p players
Well money is essential to run an organization and I don't think people will give u money for free
They have gone too far last season
it's also essential to make money while also pleasing the customer
Or say last era was horrible for f2p mainly because of talent
Not monster
I know there are monsters for money but it's not that they can't be defeated
The only thing I see wrong is talent idea and OP talent
Talents should have never existed
^
Agreed
they removed the fun out of every game
I would like talents... if there wasn't pass talents and era saga talents
just talents like aura of decay, unholy vigor, bark hide and such would be enough
@signal lance that's a fare deal for money I think
I have great time talking about everyone thoughts for the first time here so thank u and see ya bros
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@tulip fern can you explain that better, it feels like adding new adventure map islands
it is, but its one each week, and only for one week
They can be randomly generated
But thats just a lot of free gold, food and exp each week
They pick a random adventur island
guc
@patent folio monster ideas go in #monster-ideas
@granite herald bruh its been p2w from the start
I think when VIPs came out that SP started to realise players would do anything to stay competitive
so they profited on that idea and kept moving forward
Ehhh after nemesis imo
@modern sentinel thats not even a idea
@modern sentinel we really don't need them
I think VIPs were made as more of a "here's a cool exclusive monster" kind of thing
but then they saw the amount of people that got them and decided to step it up with Nemesis monsters
and then it snowballed from there
without F2P, the P2W leave
Probably yes, cuz amount of players would be reduced by at least half
idea- slow down, this past week has been a gems black hole, everyone speeding up breeding/hatching for the frat monsters , breeding had bad chances, and it was during race, should change L breeding/ranking requirememts to include mythic if we're doing this at the same time ...hasn't been a week in and already 6? metropolitan monsters released ...all bad skills to be honest ...just gems draining, we feel like fools trying to stay competitive and at the same time playing the race ...
Send to #general-feedback please, remove the first word
i would too if the feed would be active lol
It is active... more active than ideas lol
@clear stump
@lusty junco specify the changes please
@karmic fable ML has always been a game of patience, if you want tines for things reduced I'd list a few examples and why
Don't worry about it
If there's a few things that have miffed you you could suggest reworks and the like... such as ranking times being dependent on the rank of monster
Tell us specifically what times you want to see reducing
I feel like I should clarify something about my feedback from a couple hours ago so you don't get confused in the event that you try it and get different results.
I used the rank 5 stats for each monster. So it was, for instance, 240k life against 310k life on Rat and NotFound respectively. I also want to clarify that a rank 5 Metropolitan with mutant runes most likely is able to tank a hit from Spekthra with full strength runes on it because it just has that much life. If I have my information correct mutant runes at level 10 that are for instance speed (main) and life (secondary) would give a 21% life boost. And adding that to Metropolitan rank 5 stats makes monsters with more than 500k life a regular thing to see. A monster with base 310k life would gain 195k life with 3 mutant runes making it over 500k which a Spekthra can't one shot.
I just realized that I wrote a lot here... oops.
@soft swift that's a suggestion, not an idea
Isn't suggestion and idea slightly the same?
here, ideas are something never added into the game, such as events, features, settings, etc. while yours are just suggesting changes to things already added into the game, of which it belongs to #general-feedback
@neon latch Perhaps specify the kind of event you want to see. Otherwise it's too vague to be voted upon.
@soft swift I'd reword it and stick it in #general-feedback
@karmic fable that goes to #general-feedback
ok
Player level has almost 0 bearing on monster level
@south garden if you don't use your rank 5 monsters in the rank up dungeon, you won't get cells for them. The dungeon will randomly give you cells for one of the monsters you used to complete that node.
If it didn't work like this, you could get 1-2 rank 5 monsters that could carry any other monster through the dungeon. That's not the point.
I mean you could already do this, but at least it's not free cells for the 3rd monster
@glacial lynx Sorry to say but suggested many times
well thatโs what we want lol, i agree itโd make it much easier to get r5s but with how quick new monsters/metas are released it makes sense.
i donโt remember how much stardust you used to get exactly during the cosmic era dungeons, but, it was pretty easy to get r5s and was a really fun era.
Yeah, last season's scraping and stealing to get enough lutum to pick only a few monsters to hit R5 - was painful. Not fun.
i didnโt really play last era until the last month but I felt like by the time youโd get something to r5 better monsters would be out.
if they decided to make that change itโd make the game a better experience for f2ps and p2w imo.
@safe burrow use this channel for comments please.
all 3 ideas are just suggestions
The rankup dungeon feature is op
Titan Dungeon: Am i a joke you
Speaking ofโฆ so theyโre not going to reinstate the titan dungeon?
Yeah, we have nebula rankup dungeon now.
Seems like not a smart move, immediately making all corrupted obsolete once you rank your metros and the metro skills are pretty lame on top of it
not to mention SP lied to us
this is the problem. It doesn't matter that we might be playing with Metro monsters going forward (don't forget, the first corrupted monster skillsets were terrible when that era was released as well) - what matters is that we thought we'd have more time to rank our corrupted monsters up, because SP told us the Titan dungeon was here to stay
@karmic fable such idea was already suggested, and it would make game only worse
Alrighty then
@craggy kayak thats not a idea and it kinda is in the game because breeding events for a chosen monster appears at a specific time
Ohhhhh ok๐
and remove that from #submit-ideas
OK but I want diegael๐
How about increasing the chance of getting gems in monster wood
???
@open hollow that goes to #monster-ideas
Thanks
Sadly its gone lol
yep
Can anyone help me with my feedback i put
?
It does that all the time when i switch back to my android for checking on the tasks im currently doing
wut
I switch from my ios device to android device to check on the status of my task
of the task i am currently doing
a poker one
@dense quail That basically defeats the purpose of the dungeon
It's supposed to be random i guess
Um
Well ok then when u need to carry with a 150 monster.
How u would feel if u just kept getting cells for him
Or if u need to quickly rank up a monster.
But u can't bcuz u just won't get cells for him
that makes sense
to get literally anywhere in pvp you have to have like 40 rank 5s and with rank up materials being so scarce that'll be hard
Also I've been getting a lot of cells for sapman instead of malairion hehe
Which is just irritating
ouch
@rain hawk you are supposed to suggest new trait instead of just asking to add new trait
@rain hawk bruh
I know just couldnโt think of one 

when you make an idea, make sure to
@rain hawk
that's what your idea sounds like 
sorry to say. please next time be more specific
When your idea is moon face 
Yep
Alr new trait idea: itโs like a anti anticipation and extra turn block so it blocks extra turn skills and blocks anticipation so it would help against like nebotus and such
thats already been suggested before im p sure
just use trait disable on anti mons and shock on ET mons
ezpz
yeah counters to Anti and ET do already exist
@karmic fable describe your ideal tutorial please. Otherwise it's really vague.
Ill change my feedback a little of my idea it would be much easier if you could choose your language before you start the game as so my English isnโt the best + the beginning tutorial doesnโt really give much info other then how to build and how to feed/breed monsters
So to shorten it be able to choose a language in the beginning of the game @clear stump
No need to ping twice. Plus, i kindly ask that you put it in your post in #submit-ideas .
Oh I thought when you edit a msg the ping didnโt work my bad
Wait why did you ping me here then?
Oh nvm this is the discussion channel
Okรฉ I did what needed to be done
Lol thank you
Np ;)
@karmic fable and make sure to use the right channel for monster ideas
Ye I thought it was more an question/suggestion then a monster idea since itโs not detailed
If you want me to copy it and put it to the wanted channel say so then Iโll do it
Duuuude who deleted it
Now I canโt copy paste it
Lowkey pissed :|
Next time let people have a chance to change it other then just delete it :|
you couldve at least saved it, or stuck it in the correct channel anyways. The channel is right under this one, and it tells you in the pinned messages that Technoblade ideas get instantly removed.
How?
Repeated several times
@fleet edge Thats a Monster idea
is that feedback meant to be funny or something 
it sounds sarcastic 
Tbh i dont think any other mod moderates feedback
make ideas dept into ideas and feedback dept 
ok, lemme just ping the mods so they do that 
Lol
no, was meant to be a tribute, as EZ said Mari did a lot of work in that channel. Sorry for the delayed reply, just noticed your comment here.
It's alright, don't worry. I getcha now
The new Idea kinda ruins the entire point of the Monster lab
Like 2 out of the 5 tabs are useless now if all we had to do was upgrade a temple
agree
Also if that Idea was real whats going to happen with all our cells?
pretty much they are only going to be used for crafting
Yeah but Crafting more than 1 monster? Thats a waste of Island space if you ask me
Not to mention we can only have 1 copy of any mythic
i find it reasonable tbh because having more of the same mythic could be overpowered if you have the same monsters like have 3 Lord Nebotuses
Before anyone says "Then we can craft 2 Mythics now" do you really wanna deal with double Speks?
That is God tier nightmare not even nebotus and lightmare doesnt want to ruin your dreams
*now watch someone says why cant we go beyond 150
i know this feedback was from a few days ago but, someone wanted event times to be changed for australia since events start at 4am. this is because the in game time and events are based of the prim-meridian
since i live in the prim-meridian all my events start and end at 12pm
if that person sees this i hop i cleared it up 
Also wouldn't changing the time required literally changing every servers time?
@patent folio over suggested
Iโm just saying, we only get one name change and I was like 12 when I came up with the stupid name. I would even be happy if you can only purchase 1 name change. Like so many people I have met want to re do their name from typo, dumb name, or simply just want another change. Itโs a great way for SP to make money (not that they need to lol) but itโs beneficial for em and their players feel more satisfied with their accounts
yeah thats we want but the idea is over suggested to be in the channel



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