ideas-feedback-discussion

[void raft]

They almost never do this

[signal lance]

@whole anvil Problem with that. What stopping me from just making multiple accounts then make my own private guild and just do every maze on those accounts accumulate Lutum and use them to get "Cells" for that monster and then just donate those cells into my main account? like do you understand how easy that is to abuse?

There is no semblance of Balance to that Idea

[void raft]

Same as gifting

[wispy ember]

It isn’t even just cosmic or og mythics

Corrupted mythics are included

F2p players could get cells from p2w monsters

[void raft]

@cursive pelican that was already suggested before

first time in 2019

[cursive pelican]

Oh

[grand haven]

I keep seeing the #general-feedback channel lighting up but nothing's there

[void raft]

someone was typing there

[void raft]

@topaz seal thats banned idea

[topaz seal]

oh

[signal lance]

@rain spire a very big problem with that Idea is that most monsters actually only have Ranged attacks for example Anwrikah actually has no attacks that require her to go Melee

[rain spire]

oof

[wispy ember]

@bold frost it’s not even that hard to have 3 corrupted monsters but lutum dungeons should be buffed

[slim sedge]

the only issue I have with telling talents apart is Smite and Dispelling Fist

[bold frost]

I never said it was hard, just that when you get 3 corrupted monsters, (providing you're a new player and cant beat titan dungeon) you get 5 lutum per day. getting 50 lutum per day would be a substantial boost, being helpful for crafting stuff, and getting people wanting to play the lutum dungeon

[bold frost]

Devil's Helmet. Water Hemlock.

[signal lance]

Yeah and those two skills have a Ranged animation

[bold frost]

thought you meant single target

sry

[signal lance]

Its alright

[rain spire]

um weren’t Male Book ideas oversuggested

[clear stump]

not highly, but a repeat nonetheless

poof.

[grand haven]

At the end of the event, we can exchange our 7th Bday Ticket to any monster that we want

1 ticket = 1 cell
Sounds unbalanced, don't ya think?
currently you can have 200 tickets
100 tickets, boom Sensei Pandaken, free UA
100 tickets, boom Lord Nebotus, don't even need to pay
if you have 300 tickets, boom, some other monster you missed
Seems too good to even be in the game @cobalt eagle

[cobalt eagle]

@grand haven hmm..how about a 30 cells limit..?

[grand haven]

[void flame]

i think 2 bday ticket for 1 cell would be a bit more fair

[open geode]

Yea

[void raft]

@low comet to make new mode full of spenders where f2p players would suffer even more

[rain spire]

i want a five monster mode but yeah lets make them suffer

[grand haven]

Me and my Mouseron, Lord Nebotus, Spekthra, Hammergromm and Blumeria about to beat up some f2p because they're poor

[rain spire]

what could go wrong

[void raft]

[rain spire]

He or she did said “a mode” so i guess allow us to change from 3 monster to 5

If that mode comes

Im using Nebotus, Chuckle, Heiss, Fung, and Wrymlad

[void raft]

Legendary nebotus?

[grand haven]

Boarinot, Viatrix, Anwrikah, Jakuuna Hi, Lady Meow

[rain spire]

yes..... and Lord too

[void raft]

[rain spire]

imagine using 2 versions of the same monster

[grand haven]

they don't even realize how runes will apply

a taunt with 4 area dodgers, all with rainbow runes but each area dodger has team life so the taunt doesn't die easily

[void raft]

@lone shuttle #monster-ideas

[void raft]

@lone shuttle dont discuss/comment ideas in #submit-ideas, do that here

[clear stump]

Plus Daganth is called Daganth, not Issitoq

[bold frost]

@glacial dragon, I like your idea for splitting the rewards in bounty hunt based off of damage, not the final blow, but i disagree with the fact that it "promotes antisocial swooping behvaior". There isn't even a chat to communicate with other bounty hunters, so it's kinda hard to be social in the first place. and if someone wants to go and kill the fugitive, (at least in my opinion) it's fine. (as long as im in the required place to move up a league. lol) because what are they going to do if they have full stamina or want to spend their gems in bounty hunt, not attack the fugitive for bonus points?

@somber wagon I disagree with your statement about taking brakes between seasons/exxtending the seasons. SP has made it perfectly attainable for people to finish the passes before the end of the season. for example, I just got my first gold pass, and easily got everything completed (besides the pass tokens, as those require 2,000 to 3,500 points to get) with more than 2 weeks to spare. I'm not saying everyone can do it, im just pointing out that it's not impossible. as long as you're on almost every day for 10 minutes, you can usually beat it. and, keep in mind the ftp pass is only half the size of the gold pass, not including the talent at 1.8k. In short, it's not that difficult to attain a complete legends pass, gold or regular, and for the breaks between events, I've noticed that most teams go inactive during the maze/tales event, and are normally most active during races and bounty hunt, as there's more to talk about.

[glacial dragon]

@ghostdrago the definition of "antisocial" is "contrary to the laws and customs of society, in a way that causes annoyance and disapproval in others".
In this case, it is "antisocial" for 1 person to spend gems (let's say, the 95 gem 20 stamina pack from the store) to do 20 hits to the fugitive - and then at 4% life they only do 3% damage - and then someone who has been carelessly flipping tiles and not helping kill the fugitive at all - swoops in and steals the kill and the 50 gems reward.
That, per the definition above, is antisocial. It causes annoyance and disapproval, and is contrary to the general expectations of the society (the other players on the map)

[void raft]

Players have been asking SP to slow down with events and new monsters since og mythic era, if not earlier

[signal lance]

I thought they started during the Forsakens

[void raft]

I returned at the start of og mythic era, so idk what was before

[glacial dragon]

and this just happened to me again, but - per chance - he attacked slightly early. He had 3,000 points, I had 30,000 (we found the fugitive at ~1 hour in, and I only hit the fugitive, so about 60-70-odd attacks on it)

[void raft]

@karmic fable
1)Put one idea in one message
2)That would make duels even worse, cuz rng. And imagine battle of denier with any other type of monster.

[signal lance]

Unless they Bring Artifact or Ingwe they are screwed

[void raft]

at the start of such duel you can already tell who will win in 99% cases

[karmic fable]

Two healer tanks just do an infinte

Yeah

Nvm

[void raft]

didnt even think about this

this idea becomes worse and worse

[clear stump]

sorry to say it but hes true

[grand haven]

single duel is basically rock paper scissors

rock is the tank, paper is the attacker and scissors are controllers and supports

the tank can just heal infinitely, ultimately beating controllers and supports
the attacker can deal tons of damage before the tank gets to heal
the controllers can make the attacker kill itself

[void raft]

@karmic fable what for? Mutant runes are made to give two effects. Why would you need additional effect for gold rune?

[rain spire]

I find that idea as a joke

[void raft]

maybe because of that troll pandalf

[rain spire]

yeah

also posted 2 ideas

[karmic fable]

Yes

[void raft]

Joke ideas will be deleted

[clear stump]

can you read the rules of the ideas channels please :))

don't want to have to mute/forced roleless

[bold frost]

@wise surge I disagree with the whole "stop adding 5 trait monsters" becuase the reason they do that is normally becuase the monsters are "cannon" to the lore of the game, and deserving of the abilities. I agree that not all monster should have it, as it is a bit op, but every once in a while, it's good to have a really good monster that everyone uses. if SP tried to make every monster similar in power, then there would be lass than 1k players using the app due to how boring it is. "Oh hey! did you see the new monster?" "Yeah! I heard it has 10 whole points more strength than the best monster so far!"

[low comet]

Yeah i agree with GhostDrago

[wise surge]

I get that they are a bigger part of the lore and should be better. But you didn't see them make Valgar better and he was a pretty big part of the lore.

[rain spire]

watch Corrupted Lagerchaun gets 5 traits

[wise surge]

Oh God no

[rain spire]

Thorder, Pandalf’s family, WYRMLAD watch them get 5 traits

[tall shale]

thoughts on my idea?

[grand haven]

just because it's canon doesn't mean it has to be powerful. A game needs to be balanced to actually be fun to play. Suddenly these monsters that are canon to their power expressing insane abilities while monster that doesn't really have any lore get left in the dust. Lore shouldn't be the main thing they need to worry about, the main thing should be the satisfying gameplay provided to the playerbase instead of making things broken one after the other.

[rain spire]

which one

[tall shale]

the one in #submit-ideas

not the feedback

[wise surge]

A really good monster that everyone uses includes something like Spekthra. She didn't need to have 5 traits and neither does anyone else. Does Jaakuna Hi have 5? Does Mojadrak? Or any other meta monster other than Nebotus. No they don't. But they are still meta

[rain spire]

the adventure map idea

[tall shale]

yes

[bold frost]

cough spek was better than nebbo for the past month, just now getting ut in second place by him cough

[rain spire]

i find it pretty good, not a idea but feature that should’ve been added in the first place

[tall shale]

i wouldn't say it was feedback

[rain spire]

Remember Nebotus’ job was to fill dreams with nightmares

Now he is abomination of Corruption and gods

[grand haven]

and that was the only one exception, which was also just an apology to the disastrous mazes in the past

[wise surge]

That doesn't matter. Just because people use Nebotus more doesn't mean he's better. It just means that people use him more. I personally use both because they are both insane.

[rain spire]

That is a good point

Not every monster is God tier or better

[wise surge]

Lindworm was a big part of the meta (and kind of still is to some extent) but he didn't have to be ridiculously OP trait wise. They gave him good skills and good stats and it was awesome.

[rain spire]

Chuckle Muckel is still more usable due to her healing, ner and per skills

[wise surge]

Yep

She didn't have 5 traits either

You don't need 5 traits to be ridiculously OP.
All you need is good skills and they have done that so they should stop adding extra traits to monsters

[rain spire]

even OG myhtics can be useful at some point

[orchid pollen]

I wish that they bring back items to the the levels cause i cant beat leevel 60

[void raft]

@keen light post in feedback OR ideas channel. It will be removed from ideas channel if you posted same in feedback channel

[keen light]

Oh OK I'll delete from one of them

[clear stump]

@lime ice I pinged you in feedback saying bots dead but evidently bot is not dead, sorry

🤣

[bitter adder]

@cedar hemlock copycat

nah

maybe my device is playing up

[lime ice]

I forgive you

I removed his

[rain spire]

and you stole my name > : (

[clear stump]

your name is Esvsvsvsvsvsv

wrong one

[void raft]

Imagine saying that SP always listens to community

[clear stump]

[void raft]

Isabelle dyno'd

[clear stump]

i just ruined my 2 day no dyno streak

[clear stump]

i know lol

it shows on my chromebook and on mobile but not on chrome browser

[rain spire]

shhh i defiantly not kidnapping kids to sell them at goodwill

[clear stump]

who ghostpinged

[rain spire]

sorry i didnt scroll down to see and pinged u to say that the sv are Salvador flags

[clear stump]

lol

[low comet]

huh guess he isnt kidnapper at all

[rain spire]

yes

[wispy ember]

“Kirdnapper”

[rain spire]

ye i am a kirdnapper

[wispy ember]

Not anymore

[signal lance]

@bold perch there is an Auto feed feature

[bold perch]

There is? I don’t have it then for some reason

[signal lance]

You have to turn it on your self through the settings tab

[clear stump]

Ignore new move levelup notifications.

[void raft]

Its a bit too slow tho

[signal lance]

Doesn't change the fact that it still exist

[glacial dragon]

wait... did I just read @karmic fable trying to suggest that the ONE F2P event that gives F2P players a chance for a good monster at high ranks (aka Bounty Hunt) ... should be made even better for P2W players? You don't have enough already? Geebus...

also... guys, we need to upvote Mari's "test" suggestion. I think it's the best suggestion I've seen. Can you imagine how much better BH would have been if it had been adequately tested first? :tongue-in-cheek-emoji:
but for real... I would sign up to play on a test server. And sign an NDA (if that's what you want)...

[signal lance]

Bounty hunt is good as it is

And that's coming from someone who pays

[void raft]

we just need to be able to control our monsters, thats all

[signal lance]

Yup

[karmic fable]

I just said that bags reward with cells (this BH are Hardy and Rody) should have an option - cells of those monsters or mythic, stardust or lutum. Since players who have them in R5 do not need them‼️

[glacial dragon]

haha @karmic fable I'm sorry you drew my ire - you're right, there are potentially wasted cells in these events - and SP would be able to solve this quite easily with reducing levels of <current wild-card-cell> "trading" ... for example, 100 og mythic monster cells could be converted for 10 lutum; 100 cosmic for 15 lutum, and 100 corrupted for 10 lutum... will post this to suggestions...

[shrewd inlet]

100 for 10 lutum, wouldn’t it be 20

[glacial dragon]

it is SP we're talking about here...

[shrewd inlet]

When you have 2 of the same monsters it has the option of 100 cells or 20 lutum.

[glacial dragon]

but - to be fair - it has to be disadvantageous, but at the same time giving a return for people who genuinely don't need the cells

[glacial dragon]

@wise surge
in the first implementation of Bounty Hunt, there was 10 stamina instead of 5. When they made 90% of the other things in the BH better, they nerfed the stamina to max of 5. What I don't understand is this is the only place where being P2W is dis-advantageous. That is, by buying 200 stamina, you no longer get the accumulation timer. Imo, they should put "paid" stamina in a separate bucket

[wispy ember]

When you pay stamina spend it all first before paying again

[grand haven]

any stamina that goes over 5 is basically overflow. By then, it won't get the timer anymore, because the stamina is already more than full, and it will only start again when it goes under 5, paid stamina is still stamina, there needn't be a separate bucket

And also, no, this isn't the only place where being p2w is being disadvantageous, at all. 200 stamina can flip 1/2 of the map in league 1 and 1/4 in league 3 and 4. They still have tons of advantage, as in using it to fight the fugitive a whole bunch of times, getting in first place as well as making the final blow. There is a huge advantage even in this event.

p2w never is disadvantageous in this game, you can still reap major rewards as a p2w, whether they are talents, gems, book rewards, monsters and more. It's basically why they're named "pay to win"

[glacial dragon]

to clarify, if you buy 20 stamina for 95 gems, rather than 3 lots of 5 stamina for 25 gems each totalling 75 gems, and killing the Fugitive for 15 stamina, then getting 5 free stamina when you start the next map
... The person who spent more loses out. Spending more doesn't usually come with a downside.

[grand haven]

But they got all the rewards that came before. That's the thing, they spent all their stamina there and got all the rewards there. It's like the golden pass, you spend your money there, you got all the rewards and you wait until the next pass arrives. The only difference here is that you have to spend smartly. Here's an example: You use 225 gems to get 50 bounty stamina, you got all the purple, red and green bags, you found and killed the fugitive. That means you saved 25 gems and maybe even got some more in return, let's say if you spent it all. However, you could've spent less. If you only used like 25 stamina, then you could've used 20 stamina for 95 gems and 25 more from refill. This is why you shouldn't spend more, you should spend smart.

it's not about how p2w is at a disadvantage, it's about how certain p2w players doesn't really know how to spend wisely, because the p2w who spend smart still has the advantage over f2p at all times.

[signal lance]

@void raft Please keep comments in their respective channels

[clear stump]

[signal lance]

Guys I did it

[grand haven]

I guess you could say that was EZ

[clear stump]

[void raft]

🤔

[clear stump]

You posted in #submit-ideas saying " #submit-ideas , and no .suggestion is needed"

[void raft]

i thought that was here

[clear stump]

no it was not

[void raft]

[void raft]

reading feedback made me question one thing. Why was death countdown renamed to cursed countdown? Is this because curse and dc both can disappear?

[clear stump]

rolls off the tongue better i guess

[void raft]

@topaz verge that doesnt change everything that was said in feedback before yours. Also use this channel for such replies

[wise surge]

@topaz verge just telling people that they could've bought Ua for 1400 gems is unreasonable and doesn't help anyone. Most people that play the game don't constantly slave over tasks to get tons of gems so they can't get UA

[grand haven]

I don't have a problem on if the UA is 1.4k gems or not. My main problem was how absurdly broken it was, and it lead to a chain reaction of multiple anticipation monsters, defensive talents that only fills the damage that offensive talents lack because, surprise, UA isn't the only p2w offensive talent there is. You ignored my entire comment on every p2w talent being absurdly powerful compared to f2p talent, keep in mind 1.4k gems also isn't easy to get, and you just think that I'm complaining about unrelenting assault again. News flash, I'm providing feedback about every single talent there is and suggesting the devs to fix them. Just because 1 talent lead to a chain reaction doesn't mean all talents that came after aren't broken in their own way.

[tall shale]

@topaz verge not everybody has 1.4k gems

also why discuss it in general feedback

slaps forehead with malice

[low comet]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15005835

1.4k gems for UA

[bitter adder]

why are f2ps cyberbullied @e

@inland jackalrnflake willow

[rain spire]

What i missed

[void raft]

They wont nerf talents. We can only dream about that

[wise surge]

Talents are a desperate cash grab

[void raft]

I'd say same about whole game

[wise surge]

SP is so desperate for money that they are willing to bully half of their fanbase over it

[lean kelp]

If atrox can be nerfed for having sc pierce and a 1 turn stun then a guaranteed landing aoe piercing mega freeze can too.

[void raft]

Nah. They might add monster with area freeze immunity effect or trait, but i dont believe that they can nerf talent

Look at UA and amount of anticipation monsters

[wise surge]

Yeah

[rain spire]

i find Atrox’s nerf SC disappointing

[slim sedge]

just use Ignis to counter the freeze talent :melaugh:

[wise surge]

Oh God no

[void raft]

Ignis in corrupted era

You also could recommend using thalassa

[lean kelp]

Where was that excuse when ateox got nerfed

[void raft]

He is free pass monster. They barely care about f2p players

[lean kelp]

They've said before in a q&a that they'd never make pierce denier and here we are with the monster that's been conquering the meta the last 4 months having the ability to stop the whole enemy team for 2 turns.

[void raft]

Spek isnt denier, thats just talent

[lean kelp]

That's not an excuse lmao

They never said they'd never make every monster to have the ability to utilise et moves

They did however say they'd never allow a pierce monster have the ability to deny

And this is mega deny which is worse.

[void raft]

Im pretty sure thats what will happen

I dont believe that they will nerf p2w talent

[lean kelp]

Being forced to use one monster on each team just becuz sp don't understand how they're own game mechanics work

[void raft]

We can only with that that monster will be good. They can do complete garbage but with trait that counters AZ

[clear stump]

we are sane people, we are not jonthefox

[rain spire]

who jonthefox

[shrewd inlet]

[lapis pulsar]

I think he was the one who spent 8k gems on r5 Blumeria but I'm not sure if that's the a usual price for r5 progressive

[void raft]

5.6k gems for r5 blumeria according to MLG

[low comet]

Woah

All that for Blumeria at r5

[void raft]

You should check profiles of top players

[rain spire]

Ah yes a that guy has a Level 150;

Nightmare God
Lightbulb
Gary the Snail
SPEK
Meow : 3
Kernal Drip
Chad Neobuki
Kaori but arms are green
Flowey

and the rest

[signal lance]

@karmic fable that has been suggested multiple times

[karmic fable]

Ok

My mudflow is growing old in there tho

😔

[void raft]

@lapis pulsar same idea was suggested before, and its still in submit ideas

[grand haven]

@karmic fable discuss ideas here

[void raft]

and trade ideas are banned

[dusky shoal]

@vernal wren monstera isn't the exclusive pass, ik leaks said that but if you look in corrupted Era 7 book all the pass monsters are there and one spot is empty

[void raft]

SP already placed p2p monster on free chapter of book once in the past, and then removed it from there

[dusky shoal]

But why would that spot be empty it would be in both, chapter 7 has exclusive pass and regular golden pass on It, and its been the same pattern forever

I'm 99% sure monstera isn't going to be the exclusive unless they just changed the pattern for season 6

[void raft]

maybe because they placed monster on wrong chapter

instead of page 7 it went to page 10, and now page 7 is missing one monster

[dusky shoal]

That makes sense, we'll have to See though

[clear stump]

i love repeats

https://tenor.com/view/yum-gif-18243592

[signal lance]

I feel like for every repeat Isabelle deletes he heals by like 50% while gaining a permanent health and attack increase of 15%

[grand haven]

with that much power he's already 4 eras ahead

[signal lance]

4? I think you mean 9

[grand haven]

sorry, i meant 4 rarities ahead

[signal lance]

Ahh I see

[lapis pulsar]

Alright, I deleted it

[grand haven]

@lilac idol how much is 'a tiny bit'?

[lilac idol]

just extra rewards

[grand haven]

and what are the extra rewards

[lilac idol]

a couple more gems and maze collector tickets

[clear stump]

@lilac idol Can you please specify the "tiny increase".

[wispy ember]

Technically there’s already a tiny increase with the talents

[lilac idol]

maze collector tickets like 10 or something

[clear stump]

in your idea, not in here 😅

[clear stump]

@grim crane that's not an idea unless you specify the changes.

[grim crane]

i see oke

ill think of rewards if i can xd

[grand haven]

@molten quiver I understand your feedback, yes, matchmaking is horrendous with so many trophy droppers these days, but the examples you give are abyssmal. You call yourself a veteran that quit for 11 months, a time where mythics were already available for all, and you come back complaining about only having level 40 legendaries. That's really not an excuse. And getting mythics are easy as all hell, you really just need to grind. Free pass with a free mythic monster, monsterwood crazy event where you can easily get 100 cells to craft 2 free mythics, maze with collections and discounts, fraternity and breeding events, etc. I know how the leagues and matchmaking is broken and dumb, but this just seems more like a you problem than it is about the game.

[molten quiver]

balls

[molten quiver]

I’m not mad about me having level 40 legendaries

That’s not really the problem for me

It’s just the match making mostly

So ass and you agreed

Now the mythics part

Where can I discover those events

I’ve only seen some in the section to the right of the screen

[grand haven]

but there's some events visible on the islands

[molten quiver]

Wdym

[grand haven]

bounty hunt and the mazes

tales as well

the race

there are main events then there are the side events

the side events only appears on the right side

[clear stump]

you get mythics the exact same way you got legendaries, and more.

[grand haven]

yes

[clear stump]

mazes, progressives, races, breedings.

now there's also bounty hunts and legends pass and pvp added into the mix.

mythics were introduced way longer than 11months ago.

[grand haven]

with bounty hunt an extremely easy way to obtain up to 5 mythics

[clear stump]

so if you had no mythics by the time the Mythic Era ended in July last year, that's more on you than SP

[molten quiver]

Do races require battle?

[void raft]

Sometimes

[molten quiver]

Is there a race rn?

[clear stump]

Tomorrow.

[grand haven]

if you have a good team, they'll cover you in the battles

[void raft]

.

[molten quiver]

Money

[grand haven]

one way yes

[molten quiver]

I think the legends I got

Quite the amount are from the

Card picking events

[grand haven]

nice

[molten quiver]

They did a lot beside of quarantine last year but

Idk if they’re doing anything

[grand haven]

there's about to be a card picking event soon

the entire next season

[molten quiver]

How long is that

[grand haven]

the entire next season

[clear stump]

4 weeks.

[grand haven]

yes

[molten quiver]

What the hell

[molten quiver]

What are progressives

I can’t do breedings

I probably need a mythic for that

[grand haven]

tales island

[molten quiver]

Two mythics

[void raft]

@worldly yacht lets take situation where there are 3 players with 7 bots against fugitive in l7. These players cant defeat fugitive, and because of what you offer, they cant flip tiles. What do they do then?

[molten quiver]

j

[clear stump]

progressives are the tales islands you saw last year

[molten quiver]

I don’t remember those

I probably know them

[grand haven]

breedings still have legendaries

[molten quiver]

But I don’t at the same time

H

[grand haven]

only frat breedings have mythics

[molten quiver]

Legendary breeding for mythic?

[grand haven]

yes

[void raft]

Those too

[molten quiver]

Can I rn

[clear stump]

quest

[void raft]

Are you sure you were playing 11 months ago?

[grand haven]

rn there's el colosal

which is less than fun

[clear stump]

by the sounds of it he was (if he remembers the card flipping events throughout july) but also wasnt (he has no mythics???0

[grand haven]

but not as abyssmal as last time

[clear stump]

say that again and i will ask for a ban

[void raft]

Mom joke?

[clear stump]

have respect for people here

[grand haven]

yes

[clear stump]

we are trying to help you

[void raft]

[molten quiver]

I took a break July 11th

[clear stump]

so you were playing throughout the whole 5 months of mythic era

how do you have 0 mythics

[void raft]

I remember about game after 4 years break more than you after 1 year break

[grand haven]

I literally didn't play since 2014 and came back august 2020

[molten quiver]

I tried multiple events with no success

I got a significant or decent amount of cells then

Poop fard

[clear stump]

are you 12

[molten quiver]

No

[clear stump]

yorue cetainly acting it

[molten quiver]

You can’t be in here if you’re 12

[void raft]

You can ask for help in event channels or ml gameplay help

[molten quiver]

[clear stump]

ban hammer is itching

[void raft]

Maybe he is younger

[clear stump]

certainly acting it, EZ

[molten quiver]

Mf!

You want me to use proper grammar?

Okay, I’ll rephrase myself.

[void raft]

Proper behaviour please

[grand haven]

y'know what, here's my final advice before you piss someone off:
Watch tons of MW videos
Do collections, 4 hours intervals, every maze
Collection every 8 hours in tales
and finally grind for the free pass

and bounty hunt: be smart

[molten quiver]

I do not recall the events that took place during the flourishing festivals that promoted the simplistic tactic of retrieving Mythical monstrosities.

[molten quiver]

How am I pissing someone off

Is someone actually mad

[clear stump]

your behaviour is very immature

[void raft]

Your deleted joke

[molten quiver]

Discord

[grand haven]

you're pissing off someone that can mute and ban you right now

[molten quiver]

I act serious when I moderate

[clear stump]

this is a company server

it is not a place to act like a child

congrats, you can moderate

i can too

if you know how to be mature during moderation, you can be mature here

[molten quiver]

What are those collections

[clear stump]

sound good?

read pinned messages of #ml-gameplay-help .

i wrote a guide

[molten quiver]

✅✅

[void raft]

Maze coins/progressive tokens

[light scroll]

Hello

[grand haven]

everything you need to know is on the wiki, youtube or in gameplay-help

[molten quiver]

So I do the maze every 4 hours?

[light scroll]

Yeah they wwere so immature about it tbh

[void raft]

Armor has video for each maze and tale

[molten quiver]

I don’t like watching videos

Lots of times they don’t even help

[void raft]

Yes

[molten quiver]

How much do I progress i. It

[grand haven]

armor's videos help a lot

[molten quiver]

In

[light scroll]

U clearly don't use trusted YouTubers then

[molten quiver]

I know him

[light scroll]

Armor gaming is helpful

[grand haven]

yes

[molten quiver]

[grand haven]

so watch him to get back into the game

he will upload a maze guide and progressive islands guide every season

[void raft]

Or just ask everything in right channels

[light scroll]

Bro just ask in the correlating channel

[void raft]

I didnt watch videos about every event

[light scroll]

To Ur quest ion

[molten quiver]

I’ve did some bounty stuff rn but is the point of it

At the moment I’m just selecting tiles

Do I need all of them

[void raft]

You are getting cells of monsters

[grand haven]

you can get any monster you want

[molten quiver]

So I just select tiles?

That’s what I’m doing rn

[clear stump]

if you read #ml-gameplay-help pins, you will find out how to do a perfect collection easily, and how to gain extra maze coins.

[void raft]

You are trying to find reward tiles or fugitive

[clear stump]

in bounty hunt, you just flip tiles then kill fugitive. that's all there is.

[grand haven]

the arrows point to treasure or the fugitive

[molten quiver]

Ohh that’s what the arrows are for

[grand haven]

use them to find treasure, that rewards gems, food, gold and cells

[void raft]

[molten quiver]

[grand haven]

or find the fugitive, kill it to promote to the next league

[molten quiver]

What do gold arrows mean

I saw some before

[grand haven]

arrows from different players

or bots

[void raft]

Color shows what player flipped tiles

You can zoom in to see name of player

Idk what ls the point of that feature btw

[molten quiver]

@grand haven does the bounty ever chance positions

The monster I need to murder

[grand haven]

The fugitive dont change positions

They are on 1 tile that you need to pick wisely

[void raft]

We cant know that for sure

[worldly yacht]

I think there should be an exit group button for it... So that a new group can be joined.... Those who want can press that...
It's more irritating to see that 2-3 players are trying hard to defeat the fugitive, but others are just busy flipping tiles.... It just kills all the fun...

[void raft]

There are two problems.
1)If you arent on top position, you get hilariously small reward. So if you cant score enough to be in top, there is no point for you to even try(mainly on high levels)
2)Reward from bags is better way to spend stamina if you cant be in top

Shortly, BH doesnt give you motivation to spend stamina on fugitive if you cant finish level in tier 1

[worldly yacht]

Eg. At #5, for doing 10 attacks and fugitive is defeated... You get 250 coins... Plus 25 cells , Plus 150 coins... This equals to around 40 cells of the main monster...
What other way can you get 40 cells by using 10 stamina points... ?
By flipping 10 tiles you can get at most 2-3 bags... Which gives around 250 coins, old outdated monsters cells, food, gold... So , in all only 10 cells of new bounty monster which you will purchase from the 250 coins obtained....

[void raft]

Thats IF team can defeat fugitive at all

Bots exist

And bags definitely contain more coins than level reward for tier 2-3

[worldly yacht]

Problem is team can defeat, but still players are busy flipping.... Thinking #1-3 will spend gems and , the rewards will be shared without doing anything

Eg. We were at 20% fugitive life , with 8 hours left... In level 7... But then #3,4,5 decided to flip tiles.... ...
Together it would have been 16x5 = 80 attacks in 8 hours... Fugitive would be dead...

[void raft]

Imo removing option to flip tiles is bad, because some teams simply cant defeat fugitive.

Making it team event would be better

[wispy ember]

Nah

Some teams have players of all levels

And you’re forcing them to compete

Ruining the point of a team

The group making system needs to be improved

Remove bots

I don’t care if waiting time increases

At least make that an option

[void raft]

i dont say that whole team has to be in one BH team. And reward for team BH can be different

similar to how there is team and individual rewards in marathons

[lean kelp]

Glubu* @jolly raven

[jolly raven]

Tru can't edit it tho sorry

[bitter adder]

@jolly raven good one

[clear stump]

@radiant pebble #ai-improvements exists

[radiant pebble]

Lol I noticed so I posted there but ty

[clear stump]

No worries.

[signal lance]

@hallow steppe so Possession and Corruption

The worst part being the trait Ideas for possession and corruption

[hallow steppe]

It won't attack itself

[signal lance]

Yeah you see I like the debuff Idea but not the trait Idea

[void raft]

Maybe immune to traitor trait?

[signal lance]

Try saying that 5 times fast

[void raft]

Also why would you need almost exact copy of possession or corruption

[void raft]

What about taunt or mega taunt

[grand haven]

so aoe wont affect itself?

and why mega traitor for 3 turns instead of 2?

[hallow steppe]

Yes

[signal lance]

Yeah I see no balance in that

[grand haven]

so mega traitor on a mega taunt is just a 3 turn stun

[void raft]

Just possession but weirder

[signal lance]

That is legit a more OP version of Possession or Corruption

[grand haven]

fr

[signal lance]

Also what happens if the "Traitor" is out of stamina

[hallow steppe]

They don't have any role

[hallow steppe]

So it will recharge

[signal lance]

But you said it wont recharge

[signal lance]

Their role is literally to Tank

Oh my god

[hallow steppe]

If the player recharges when there is enough stamina

[grand haven]

mega taunt with mega traitor is just a 3-turn stun

[signal lance]

Its literally just a more Over powered deny effect

[grand haven]

imagine how powerful mega traitor is combined with cursed countdown

[signal lance]

Insta win

[grand haven]

literally

why 3 turn instead of 2

just why?

[signal lance]

Why can't people just try to balance their Ideas for once

[hallow steppe]

Ok 2

[signal lance]

Also Immune to Traitor sounds odd

[grand haven]

another question

are these two traits separate?

[signal lance]

I think they are

[grand haven]

so, immune to traitor can't block mega traitor and vise versa or what?

[hallow steppe]

Traitors will always attack their allies while posessed will sometimes

[grand haven]

yes I can see that

[signal lance]

That doesn't answer our question

[grand haven]

my question is are these 2 traits separate

[grand haven]

this question

[hallow steppe]

Check now

[signal lance]

Ok

It looks pretty good

BTW I am assuming Traitor can get blocked by Immune to control

[grand haven]

a better possession, I can stick with that

[signal lance]

Am I correct with this assumption?

[signal lance]

Could you answer this question

Depends on what it does

[hallow steppe]

But if they can add traitor trait in immune to control it would be cool

[signal lance]

So Does Immune to control block Traitor?

[hallow steppe]

Yeah

[signal lance]

Ok good we have no further problems

[hallow steppe]

Ok

[signal lance]

@hallow steppeThe Islands Idea is a repeat Idea and is banned

[clear stump]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-ghost-gif-4978918

[hallow steppe]

Ok

[signal lance]

Well thats another 15% increase to Isabelles Health, Strength and Speed stats

[clear stump]

[signal lance]

Isabelle by your estimation whats your Strength, Health and Speed stats

[grand haven]

his stats are so high Lord Nebotus is gonna become a repeated idea

[hallow steppe]

Idea : Joke of the day or week
When you open Monster Legends , a joke related to monsters will be displayed on the screen
Example : Player banned from discord server
Reason : You are corrupted
Player : aren't your monsters corrupted too

[clear stump]

Where's the funny.

You do realise we have a voting channel

and that this channel is not the voting channel

We don't need to be told many times to react to it.

I already said my opinion

Deleting your messages, I see how it is

[karmic fable]

@hallow steppe your joke is unfunny

[clear stump]

Be nice dude.

[karmic fable]

I got a better joke :
||Dream||

[void raft]

@karmic fable spek has that, but as separate effects that are applied by one skill, but healing is reduced by 100% and it also applies vulnerable

[karmic fable]

So what, i want bugged effect to be re used

[void raft]

There arent many bugs

[karmic fable]

Name an other monster that do the sane

[void raft]

I dont think there is another mythic that has those effects in one skill

But also there arent many bugs

[karmic fable]

They just have to make a corrupted ant with a cool hat and boom, bugged

[void raft]

That should go to #monster-ideas

[karmic fable]

Too lazy

[void raft]

[supple halo]

Bruh

[rain spire]

@karmic fable thats been over suggested. And its not a idea

[glacial dragon]

@supple halo if you look at the free battle pass rewards, you would see that the chests you can get there would be the same as the ones you got before? You just have to grind slightly differently now, with more 'fun' challenges of choosing different monster combinations & etc...

[void raft]

i'd prefer old way to grind

[glacial dragon]

yeah, I suppose different strokes for different folks... I think I personally enjoy these mini challenges

BUT - I don't think the paid pass is worth the same as the paid legends pass... it's less than 1/3 the value... no unique additional monster, no speedups...

if the paid pass's extra slot had a 50% chest-opening-speedup, or even a 20% speedup on all pvp chests, it might be worth 1/2 as much

I don't feel autoqueueing is that valuable, it might get me 1 T6 chest worth of value in a month, if that

[rain spire]

i actually like the new update to be honest

[supple halo]

No lmao 😂. Now I can't get a free rank 4 PvP monster even by grinding. And the rewards in battle pass aren't good either

Lul pay 2 win monster legends

Now but one more battle pass to get ranked up PvP mon

And now you can't even rent the extra chest slot for free. Gotta buy the exclusive pass for that too. (Though nobody bought it anyways, but still it was changed in to p2p)

[rain spire]

@hallow steppe um #monster-ideas not Submit ideas

[clear stump]

Mmmm tasty

[glacial dragon]

the only way you can't get free R4 "even by grinding" is if you don't grind enough. I will still get this guy to R4 from grinding. My Khamelia is 4.1 from grinding to top 10 ranking, those additional cells are the 0.1

I think what you mean is you have to interact with the game to switch your monsters around

[wicked spire]

What the heck 😭

I lost from 20leveleed monsters

[void raft]

Post that in #bugs-reporting

Thats hacker, and you are in wrong channel

[supple halo]

No you won't lmao. Just tell me how you are gonna get panion to rank 4 with just PvP battles 😂

[clear stump]

By hatching eggs and putting effort in, you can get way more than 4500 cells in 30 days

You can arguably have up to 6000

[supple halo]

In new system

Never

[karmic fable]

By playing multiples times a day i got electric girl to rank 2,6

[supple halo]

You can open 30 tier 6 eggs in 30 days

That isn't possible tbh

So take it as 15 tier 6 at max

That's also hard tho

Then you gonna get rank 3

[karmic fable]

I got 2 tier 6 this season

And 1 tier7

[supple halo]

But you can't open en simultaneously can you?

[karmic fable]

No

Am poor

[supple halo]

SP really going pay 2 win on PvP mon

[karmic fable]

Everyone knows

[supple halo]

I don't mind much tho because PvP mon aren't worth it most of the time

[karmic fable]

Since mythicals appeared, p2w went crazy

[supple halo]

Yep.

Game was okay and all right till original mythics because we could do legendaries synergies with them

After the og era game went crazy

[clear stump]

If one egg tier 6 takes 24 hours to open... and theres 28 days in a season... 28 eggs in 28 days... rounded to 30 for the sake of the message.

28x200 is?

[supple halo]

Yep and tell me when you get rank 4

Ok?

[karmic fable]

How do you get that many tier 6

[clear stump]

Yeah, 137 fayemalice says hello

[clear stump]

Luck

[supple halo]

Yeah because old system was good

[karmic fable]

😔

[supple halo]

I also have level 137 fung

[clear stump]

That was pre tier 6 no?

If you have 137 fung then you prove my point

[supple halo]

Yes I don't get any tier 6 myself

[clear stump]

If you consider extra cells in BP now then you can still easily get decent rank. Just put in the effort.

[supple halo]

As I remember I got level 137 Fung when I didn't play for half a week at all and also I got only 2 tier 6 that month

[clear stump]

Well congratulations to you but you prove my point.

Put in the effort and you will get far.

[supple halo]

Yeah sure. 25 total panion cells in free pass is great

[clear stump]

Only 25???

[void raft]

They are making game worse in each its aspect

[supple halo]

Go update your game bruh.

You haven't even seen new pass lmao

[clear stump]

It is updated thank you very much.

[supple halo]

Oke

So you know there are 25 panion cells

[clear stump]

I thought it was 250, not 25.

[supple halo]

And some chests

[void raft]

There are chests in pass, arent there?

[supple halo]

It's 25 lul

[clear stump]

Yes.

Look at chests too. Add those up on top.

Much more than 25 no?

[supple halo]

Oh so you do support new system

[clear stump]

Sid I say that

[supple halo]

Np I'm not here for arguing anyways

[void raft]

But if you are grinding pvp ONLY for pvp monster, you are getting less cells now

[clear stump]

You're certainly doing just that, I never said I support the BP

[supple halo]

That's what my point is, isn't it?

[clear stump]

read what I say and please have the respect to not put words in my mouth

[void raft]

And BP is bad simply because its made only for moneu

[supple halo]

Also was there even any need for bp

Like hell man

[void raft]

Pretty sure nobody asked another pass

[supple halo]

Pay 2 win ml

[void raft]

Also there is no avatar in BP, right?

[supple halo]

Nope I think

Oke gtg bye see ya

Good discussing with ya

[glacial dragon]

am I missing something? Are there less cells in the individual chests now than there were before?

if there aren't less cells, then the difference between now to before is that the fortnightly ranked challenge has been replaced by a monthly battlepass with the same amount of cells over a month instead of a fortnight. So you get ( 25 cells plus chests with 12+12+20+20+45+45+200 cells ) now... instead of before 2x fortnights of ( 12+20+45+45+45+200 plus whatever your challenge ranking reward was (which if you weren't in the top 10 was 44 cells or less) ... so that's 379 now vs (2x 367+44)=822 ... So we're missing out on 443 cells with this change. And getting some relics instead. Hardly worth crying about...

The good thing is, they added new content in the form of something else to micromanage, to make pvp more fun instead of just a grind. The bad thing is, they decided they'd tag $31AUD - or the cost of the Legends pass - to a 'better' version of it, that isn't worth even 1/3 of the value of the legends pass. If they implemented it at 1/2 the price, added the Legends Pass monster instead of the PvP egg, and essentially made it "a replacement legends pass for the players who like to predominantly pvp"... I don't know. I think it's poor implementation, not a bad idea

[glacial dragon]

wait, was it a weekly challenge, not fortnightly? So then we lost out on ... 1265 cells? It was a week ago, but I already can't remember

[shrewd inlet]

No R4 pvp slave this season.

[supple halo]

No r4

[supple halo]

So you now finally remembered that it was weekly challenge. Not monthly

Congrats

[glacial dragon]

So I get it, 1k cells is a chunk, but it's not the end of the world, and the monster to R4 is still quite achievable. Also, I think you should give the chip on your shoulder a name. It seems to be so big I think you'll probably be carrying it around for a while

[void raft]

@hallow steppe why

[clear stump]

@hallow steppe In future, era ideas and monster ideas go in #monster-ideas as is stated in the pinned messages. Thanks.

[rain spire]

@hallow steppe over suggested

[hallow steppe]

Nope

[rain spire]

plus its not a idea

[hallow steppe]

That is about extra space

[slim sedge]

what did they even suggest

[rain spire]

more adventure maps

[slim sedge]

thrilling

more things to beat in 5 minutes and never return to again

[rain spire]

lol

[rain spire]

It is a oversuggested idea

[hallow steppe]

Extra islands for space is

[rain spire]

that too

[clear stump]

There is more than one example of over suggested ideas.

[foggy summit]

@gritty osprey eh

lutum is already a thing

[rain spire]

I find the idea pointless

[signal lance]

I agree

[wispy ember]

@karmic fable you can just post that in #ml-flex-and-showoff-channel

[karmic fable]

But how is it a flex

[wispy ember]

Or even #ml-general-discussion

[karmic fable]

Aight

Cool

[wispy ember]

Flex AND show off

[karmic fable]

Ah

But it would be nice if those were separated

:)

[wispy ember]

Unnecessary amount of chats

[karmic fable]

Ok see ya

[wispy ember]

It’s like splitting runes and relics

Bye

[rigid thorn]

@bold frost why team freeze

[bold frost]

because the current one is team mega freeze

its a way to nerf it but let it still have power

either that or one monster gets megafreeze

[supple halo]

Yeah yeah sure. 1200+ monster cells isn't much right? 😂

[grand haven]

well I just had a stroke reading the latest idea

so what I'm seeing here is:
-If the enemy has skill mirror, and you attack them, usually the damage reflects (which is damage mirror not skill mirror) but capitol punishment will take that damage, triple it, and make it a shield, all the while make the monster that had skill mirror (damage mirror) loses its next turn

@opal gust your idea is not balanced, at all

[open geode]

Wrong channel

#players-chat

[lunar tiger]

Opps

[signal lance]

@pastel shoal SP has no control over monster wood

Its a third party thing

also you not getting mine turtle is just bad luck

@uncut drum please keep comments about Ideas in this channel

[uncut drum]

Sorry

[signal lance]

@hallow steppe come on man try to balance it

Triple life for 3 turns are you insane

@hallow steppe thats an Era idea that goes into #monster-ideas

Also what the hell is up with all these Horror era's

[void raft]

buy music for gems

[signal lance]

AND their on a limited time

[supple halo]

@wispy ember I think we already have many forms of denials.

[wispy ember]

Wouldn’t hurt to have more

[supple halo]

What's the need.

[slim sedge]

we don't need more denies

[supple halo]

Yes

[slim sedge]

the ones we have now are fine

[supple halo]

We already have enough

And denies like baby reversion, time stop, etc aren't even on many monsters

[open geode]

New megataunt when

[grand haven]

There is a tales or a maze event between BH and Race tho

[slim sedge]

they mean from the end of BH to the start of race

I assume

[grand haven]

I know

I did a little trolling

[rigid thorn]

But it isn't?

It's AoE Mega Freeze

[clear stump]

Team and AOE mean the same in the current context

the point is it MegaFreeze the entire enemy team

Which is stupidly overpowered

[wispy ember]

Not OP

Broken

[grand haven]

It didn't even say deals damage to damaged targets

it's all targets

leading me to believe no matter which monster you use it on, the damage and Mega Freeze will land on everyone

[wispy ember]

Wait you don’t even need pierce to mega freeze everyone?

[grand haven]

look at the description of it

[clear stump]

I would be shocked if the AOE MF wasnt absorbed by MT if the user isnt a pierce

[wispy ember]

Dammit

[grand haven]

"Deals X damage to all targets and applies Mega Freeze to them"

[clear stump]

All targets.

If I have one target, it hits all targets out of the 1 target possible. Which would be 1.

[grand haven]

hmm I see

but Spekthra still broken

wait

[clear stump]

Yeah. agreed.

[grand haven]

if I does an AoE on a taunt + DA team, they're all targets right?

[void raft]

Havent seen AZ, but it becomes worse and worse

[clear stump]

Yes, if you have Pierce

And perform an AOE

[grand haven]

alright

but like, come on, they didn't let a pierce deny monster like Atrox with a single stun but somehow they allowed a spek with AZ

[clear stump]

AZ Paywall + new era soon

Probably

[grand haven]

then a new rarity

and then it just starts over and over again

[clear stump]

Wouldnt bloody surprise me

[grand haven]

I guess it's the cycle now

[void raft]

If there is no tons of good monsters with area freeze immunity, then AZ will still be usable

[grand haven]

no top monsters right now has freeze immunity besides artifacts and ingwe

oh wait a minute!

Boomshakalaka has freeze immunity

[void raft]

Boomshakalaka isnt top monster

[grand haven]

top monster

lmao

[void raft]

I have seen him only once

[grand haven]

yea

[clear stump]

The last one I remember that happening to is ignis

[void raft]

Cosmic

[grand haven]

but hey, boom has freeze immunity, AZ countered amiright

[clear stump]

That's my point ez

[grand haven]

I'm trying to hide my disappointment towards SP right now

[void raft]

Exclusive pass monster to counter glp talent

👍

[clear stump]

If they release an AOE Frz immune mon at this point to counter AZ then we are back in 2019 all over again

[grand haven]

with trait protection

[clear stump]

Counter vs counter meta where everything is situational with a cause

[grand haven]

and oh hey crabbydroid got corrupted

[void raft]

The only way to make things at least a little bit better is to get rid of talent slot for future eras

[grand haven]

which of course would render all talents useless

[void raft]

Really? Why not korruptus

[grand haven]

korruptus got korrupted

not corrupted

[void raft]

Corrupted korruptus

Valgar the pure got purified

Korruptus must be corrupted

[grand haven]

i was surprised he wasnt the lord in the first place

he used black magic, got dethroned, tried to get it back but mythics stood in his way, now he gets corrupted and becomes even more powerful than ever

[wispy ember]

Not many people have it cuz it costs 50$ but it’s still good

[void raft]

Probably cuz it isnt worth 50$

[wispy ember]

Eh

Perhaps

After all mouse is something many players have and use in top 100

[void raft]

I have seen dozens of BH experts, nebotuses, mouserons and other p2w monsters. I cant call Boomshakalaka top or popular monster

[grand haven]

kinda feel bad for him honestly

fun design and cool moveset

[wispy ember]

Honestly SP is going all out with these monsters

New era def coming

Imo

[void raft]

Obviously

At some point there will be new era

[grand haven]

It's always obvious

[void raft]

Cuz they need more money

[wispy ember]

Probably next season

[grand haven]

When dratis, exec, cryo and such appeared

[wispy ember]

Cuz of el colosals and stuff

[clear stump]

We're back to mons like Dratis and Vastus coming out, then theyll be overshadowed in 3 weeks

[grand haven]

^

if only they just stopped at og era

[wispy ember]

The legendary era was fun

[void raft]

What isnt obvious is what will be new about that era. Cap breakouts for cosmics is good. Talents for corrupted monsters is bad. Whats next?

[grand haven]

4th rune slot

[void raft]

Did anybody even use vastus?

[grand haven]

Ancient runes or smth

that reduces cooldowns

[wispy ember]

50th obscure talent slot

[rain spire]

i do

[void raft]

And its always locked

[wispy ember]

Don’t even know who vastus is

[void raft]

Og mythic with pierce move

[rain spire]

Earth Mythic and Kiridar’s partner

[void raft]

He was one of the last og mythics

[grand haven]

yep

[wispy ember]

Ah

[grand haven]

well I'm off to criticize about the start of this season

[rain spire]

his swords look like a alternate version of lightsabers but swords

[wispy ember]

What would be nice

Is if there were as many meta monsters as back in the legendary era

[rain spire]

facts

[grand haven]

it wouldve been nice when the meta was diverse

[wispy ember]

So it just comes down to what you like

[grand haven]

now it's just: haha attacker go slam

which is just sad

[rain spire]

many were useless in the legendary era but yeah, i wish we were back there

[wispy ember]

I hate how attackers are meta

It should be a combination

After all it is a team game

[rain spire]

and need a Legendary Live Duels

[grand haven]

it all started when UA appeared, and spekthra started the snowball

[wispy ember]

But the team is just there to help the attacker

[grand haven]

cosmic duels were bad but acceptable until you cant even change runes anymore

[wispy ember]

The given setups are also trash

Tanks with all life

Tt’s with ts

[grand haven]

I even talked about how it was rigged

especially third selection

[wispy ember]

Yep

[clear stump]

Given he came out days before cosmics, I dont think he got much use

[rain spire]

and getting the chosen monsters are just a lottery

[wispy ember]

Always a tank

[grand haven]

it made me despise duels man

[wispy ember]

I stopped playing duels after I got my gold slave

[rain spire]

same but i still like doing duels

[grand haven]

I used to love it

[wispy ember]

Haven’t even hatched it

It’s been so many months

[grand haven]

now it's just: how many good teams can I get

[wispy ember]

I wish SP would give us a break and stop releasing new monsters and overloading us with events

[rain spire]

hopefully another era comes, we get a mythic that can replace Influxer

[grand haven]

and can I just get a full tank team so I can troll by healing infinitely

[wispy ember]

There’s no way we can keep up with hatching and crafting everything

[rain spire]

there was even a meme about them to take a break from added mythics

[wispy ember]

If hatching and crafting and breeding times were instant

Maybe not breeding

But that would’ve been amazing

[rain spire]

and wasnt there that share button to revive your monsters they died like share to your friends or send it to yourself like in Notes

[wispy ember]

Finally

I got Pure Pandalf

[rain spire]

noice

im still far away from unlocking him

also how you got him early

[bitter adder]

@dense quail its a shame kids dont have parents with cards

[dense quail]

How many parents allow children to cash

7 year olds

[bitter adder]

7 year olds can earn money from chores

[rain spire]

my mom does

[bitter adder]

or earn their parents to make a purchase in monster legends

[clear stump]

Point is, not a lot do.

[bitter adder]

or, they can be f2p

[clear stump]

When I was 7, monster Legends didnt even exist yet. I had only gotten internet the year prior.

Addictinggames was a blessing.

[grand haven]

imagine flexing your age

when I was 7 monster legends also didn't exist

[rain spire]

14 year old confusion

[wispy ember]

Monster wood

[rain spire]

And how was watching the ads

[wispy ember]

Fine

I usually watch ads on one device and watch YouTube or something on another while I wait

[rain spire]

huh

[wispy ember]

Should I nerf my idea to 3x damage

[rain spire]

yeah 4x its just to much

[slim sedge]

poor vastus

had second maze monster syndrome and existed right before a new era

[void raft]

Also vanoss2099 was one of the first cosmics, and he would be better than vastus even with same stats

[slim sedge]

also hardy was in the pass as well

[dusky shoal]

Why Is everyone complaining about absolute zero, Just be faster then the user and kill them

[rain spire]

i find the “Nerf Steamwrath” more annoying

[void raft]

I wonder if you can say the same after you see AZ in every fight

[dusky shoal]

Az vs Az mirror match

[shrewd inlet]

They always have something to complain about

[slim sedge]

f2p are always complaining

[rain spire]

honestly as a f2p i really dont care if the meta is way broken even if powerful stuff goes to the p2p

[slim sedge]

good

[rain spire]

and the fact that sp is just ea so why even argue about the prices

[clear stump]

@glass kestrel I ask you to consider balancing in your idea, 1million damage is insta completable for many

[signal lance]

You know just go to adventure map and Bring Warmaster Necromancer

[glass kestrel]

I kbow that, i just put a random number out there 😅

[signal lance]

Just know its ridiculously easy to do 1mil damage

[glass kestrel]

I know, i could do it in around 3-5 turns

[signal lance]

For context just bring the corruptible monster into adventure map, Go the first island and Bring Warmaster Necromancer

[low comet]

laughs in Reptie and insert powerful attacker

[clear stump]

Lol.

[signal lance]

Make sure to Bring Warmaster Necromancer

[clear stump]

True oldies would say totem

[signal lance]

Its very hard to forget Totem

[low comet]

The fact i was given a challenge for 50M damage flicked so i added Reptie for his 3x skill

[rain spire]

oh you do that too

[low comet]

Yep

[void raft]

@karmic fable thats banned idea

[rain spire]

@karmic fable banned idea

[karmic fable]

I don’t care 😂

[grand valve]

what did you say

[karmic fable]

dont care

[shrewd inlet]

The era sagas aren’t even hard

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-19411985

[signal lance]

The Era saga's are easy

[grand valve]

should i asked isabelle to mute this guy

or the creepy lego guy

[signal lance]

What Creepy lego guy?

[glacial dragon]

@worldly yacht lol this feedback ... imagine being a game Dev and creating this new top tier item but the implementation is such that people would prefer to discard it 😂😂 ... and then to try to cover for the mistake, force it on people by making it the subject of a task in the battle pass 🤣🤣

[grand haven]

isabelle just gained 30% more power

good job JohnnyML, you contributed well to the forces of Isabelle. For this you shall be rewarded greatly, of which meaning getting your ideas consumed by the almighty god of Isa.

[grand haven]

I think he means the monster master that has a fleshy lego pfp

[signal lance]

Yeah I have no clue who that is

[grand haven]

lemme see if i can find them

iliahmohf

that's their name

[signal lance]

Ok let me see

Yeah I can't find them

[grand haven]

dont wanna ping them so

[grand haven]

already 60% of extra power

[signal lance]

I swear Isabelle is like a descendant of the Titans at this point

[grand valve]

iliveinahousemadeofhumanflesh that guy

[grand haven]

George just copied the feedback that's 2 feedbacks above

[signal lance]

@verbal notch you didn't have to copy and paste the feed back

[verbal notch]

Lol

I just tried to make it more so sp should see it

[signal lance]

Well can you not do that then

[verbal notch]

Lol just chill

Have fun with game

[void raft]

@frail epoch then nodes with several waves would be similar to several nodes with one wave

[supple halo]

Yes they are ez. I'm almost about to complete the valgar saga on hard with r3 valgar and a r0 magus

[signal lance]

@frail epoch That just ruins the challenge of the saga

[worldly yacht]

Lol....
But it's really the most irritating PvP chest... Useless extra rewards... Eats up a slot for two days...

[glacial dragon]

Yes. I have found a way to avoid them, although I'm a relatively new player, so I could do with some of the rewards in them... Well, I could before the -1k cells change that means I need to ensure I keep getting these T6 ones instead...

[grand haven]

Add a Level (Descending Order) filter in the My Monsters section of the monstergram, so when it's applied the level 1 monsters will appear at the top and so on to the bottom
Don't you mean ascending order?

[lean kelp]

Shh

[clear stump]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-kirby-anime-الطعام-gif-4848690

Me munching on repeats

[grand haven]

his power is growing stronger

soon he will become the one that ends monster legends

[rain spire]

This is how i get rid of repeats

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-cell-slap-gif-15223605

[grand haven]

ok... wow. I know the game is p2w right now but christ, making an entire movement against it is not the way to go. "Repeating cycle of Cyberbullying that this corporation is committing against us" this phrase is just wrong. This is not cyber bullying, this is cash grabbing, that's it. I am f2p, I complained about things many times before, but this feedback is just chaotic. Keep in mind you're only talking to a fraction of the playerbase in this server, there are tons more whales out there waiting to spend all their money. Your idea has good cause and reason, but the sending message is just bad. I'll say this right now, people can spend how they want, when they want, don't start or force a movement on everything. You can judge, but you shouldn't force it on someone, let alone a playerbase. I have a special place for this game, it was my childhood, seeing it turn to a cash grabber is disheartening, but seeing people trying to force a certain playstyle on a game I love hurts even more. Please just rethink your way of sending a message, because things like this hurt people that are playing the game, the devs that put their heart and soul into the game, and the people that loves it to the bottom of their hearts. @wise surge

[wise surge]

I get that. I'm not trying to force it on people and the wording could be changed up a bit but I'm angry. And I was trying to get my message out to people. I know that there are a lot of people who spend on this game because they have the money to do so and just want the best experience but at this point it is a bit like Cyberbullying. SP is trying to manipulate everyone that doesn't pay into paying because they want money. It annoys me. I'm sorry if the wording seemed harsh it just really is how I fell about it.

Sorry that it was chaotic and angry I just felt like I needed to vent and this was really the only way to get SP to see it

And I'm also sorry to the Developers of the game. I get that they love the game and they have put tons of work into it and that is amazing there's just so much that still needs fixing and its a lot of work to do that and they probably don't get paid enough. Developers should be paid a lot honestly because they have to deal with angry costumers yelling feedback at them and they can't always act on it

[slim sedge]

essay fight 👀

[wise surge]

Lol

[grand haven]

let's go block of text time

but one more essay

[wise surge]

Honestly I didn't think I was going to get any upvotes at all. But apparently I have 2 so I guess some people feel similarly maybe

[grand haven]

one of them's the bot lol

sorry

[wise surge]

There's 3

Oh wait nvm

I think that the Devs do what they can. I may not agree with some of the stuff they put into the game but I have to remind myself that it isn't always their fault so I shouldn't yell at them.

[grand haven]

I'll say it right here, venting and releasing your rage towards a feedback isn't gonna make anyone look at it, because they'll just see it as a rant and move on. I know you're angry, I am too, the game dug its own hole and it's gonna keep digging, but anger isn't a way to express criticism. You have to take it from a better outlook, express in detail what's broken, what's not, how powerful it got and show the devs what to fix and how to fix it. Because on the smallest chance that they'll use their time to look, they'll see and act on the error of their ways. Remember, it's not the devs fault the game's a cash grab, it's the marketing team.

Now let's just leave it right here

[wise surge]

Yep

I shouldn't have given my feedback like that. But I can't delete so I hope someone else does so I can restart from a more productive standpoint.

[clear stump]

Ask Mari in private.

[void raft]

I think thats third feedback that asks to stop spending money on ML

[wise surge]

Yeah probably

I'm just gonna take some time to cool down and ask Mari to delete it

[void raft]

I think mari will delete it even if you dont ask

But i agree with your point, because if people keep spending money on what SP releases, they will keep doing what they do

[wise surge]

Yeah. It's annoying but as Dead Chat pointed out I have to take a softer approach so it doesn't get out of hand

[void raft]

If SP really dont understand what they are doing wrong, i think thats perfect way to tell them that

[wispy ember]

They should make it so that you can get the glp f2p but you can pay money to get it R4/R5

[wispy ember]

@karmic fable that’s a repeat

[signal lance]

How the hell did you take the fist that was given for free from SP into Communism?

[void raft]

@marsh horizon thats about lgbt, not about communism. And you dont have to equip that avatar or frame

[marsh horizon]

No that symbol has been the communist symbol for about 100 years, it suddenly became lgbt a couple of months ago

[void raft]

Huh

When was rainbow symbol of communism

[shrewd inlet]

@marsh horizon just don’t claim it

[marsh horizon]

Not the rainbow the fist

[void raft]

And whats with fist? You have two fists, so you are symbol of communism?

[marsh horizon]

Can’t not claim it

[shrewd inlet]

Click the arrow then the X

[void raft]

Thats dumb

[shrewd inlet]

[marsh horizon]

If I don’t claim it I can’t get into the game

[void raft]

Then claim them and just ignore them

[void raft]

[marsh horizon]

Why is it easy to ignore something that killed your family

[void raft]

Rainbow fist from ML did smth to your family?