ideas-feedback-discussion

[clear stump]

https://tenor.com/view/bright-side-bright-side-of-life-song-look-at-the-bright-side-positive-gif-12636167

damn it

[low comet]

Same

[void raft]

Or villains win but then become heroes

[rain spire]

an another thing besides villains are iconic Light Vs Darkness

and light always wins

[signal lance]

Is it to much to ask for Darkness to win once?

[rain spire]

well not really because i never wanted to argue to let dark win once in a game but mostly Light is more heroic and always beat darkness

[void raft]

World without light would be dark

[rain spire]

except cough Hollow Knight

[void raft]

Void is dark, but its void, not darkness

[rain spire]

so is basically, nothing?

[void raft]

Yes

[rain spire]

ah

[void raft]

Hollow void

[signal lance]

So like my soul that one time when a bird ate my last french fry

[rain spire]

So...

Villains always lose by heroes
Darkness always lose by light
And darkness doesnt count in HK since the “darkness” is practically nothing

[signal lance]

HK?

[rain spire]

hollow knight

[signal lance]

Oh

[void raft]

But void can consume light

And probably anything else

[rain spire]

and void technically count as a part of black holes (i think)

[wispy ember]

||Megamind|| in a nutshell xD

[rain spire]

or Vegeta in a nutshell

[void raft]

Didnt want to spoil, but thats what i meant

[wispy ember]

Welp now you can’t see it

[void raft]

But i already saw

[wispy ember]

You already saw the movie too

[void raft]

Did i?

[wispy ember]

^

[void raft]

@karmic fable @sour glade dont chat in #submit-ideas

[sour glade]

Hey guys is this a good idea:

Idea: Make mazes and tales way easier

-Make it so that you don't have to log in every 4 hours
-Make it so that you don't have to log in every 8 hours
-Make is completely f2p like the Bounty Hunt

[sour glade]

sry

[void raft]

You probably need to specify time for collections or how to collect item without cooldowns

[karmic fable]

I would realy like that epic from anime po

[sour glade]

oh right thx

[void raft]

Imagine epic in corrupted era

[rain spire]

i mean we did get a epic in the Cosmic Era

why not the other eras that a new epic is added

[slim sedge]

because it's pointless

[wispy ember]

They’re already f2p lmao

[signal lance]

Those things are completely F2P

[wispy ember]

And don’t you need to log on every 2 and a half hours for BH?

If you want maximum rewards

Without sacrificing sleep of course

[sour glade]

i know but they r hard to get if u don't have the time

[sour glade]

i know but they r hard to get if u don't have the time

[sour glade]

wdym i don't understand

[wispy ember]

You log on every 4 hours for 5 minutes

And that takes too much time?

[wispy ember]

You get max stamina in BH every 2.5 hours

[sour glade]

i was talking about the mazes not the Bounty Hunt

[wispy ember]

“Make it f2p like Bounty Hunt”

Bounty requires 2.5 hour intervals

For maximum rewards

[slim sedge]

bounty hunt is more p2w than maze and tales tbh

[wispy ember]

Like all monsters

[sour glade]

U don't need to get Maximum rewards to get the monster

[wispy ember]

Nah since you can spend gems to get stamina

Tales are also easy for the same reason

[slim sedge]

yeah but are you ignoring the exclusive fugitive hater monsters

[wispy ember]

Yeah but imagine not getting all the monsters

[slim sedge]

literallt designed to make killing the fugitive easier

[wispy ember]

Yep

[slim sedge]

so you get more

[sour glade]

wdym by this

[wispy ember]

I mean imagine not getting all bounty hunt monsters

[tired fulcrum]

plus there is a literal chart on how to get tons of gems in a month so tales are easy

[wispy ember]

In bounty shop

There’s the chart

[slim sedge]

most bounty shop monsters I own

[tired fulcrum]

pretty easy ngl

[wispy ember]

I own all now xD

[slim sedge]

most bounty shop monsters not worth it anyway

only the mythics and the corrupted are

[wispy ember]

Dunn ra for breeding events

[slim sedge]

uhhuh

I'd like to see which breeding events she's been used in

[sour glade]

yeah u might have the gems but not everyone can log in every 8 hours to get the monster

[wispy ember]

I don’t remember the specifics

But I know it’s been used

[wispy ember]

Don’t need to

I did around 2 and a half collections a day

Spent just 200-230 gems

[slim sedge]

uhhuh

I don't recall dunn ra being used in ANY breeding event aside from that one dark colossal all that time ago

[wispy ember]

Search it somewhere ig

[sour glade]

wait u don't?

[wispy ember]

It’s cheapest with 8 hours intervals

[sour glade]

so u can do 4 or 2 hour intervals?

[wispy ember]

But you can do it with less collections but more gems

[wispy ember]

Yeah but the items you get are less

[sour glade]

oh ok thx

[wispy ember]

Like 4 hour intervals would get you half the items per collection

[sour glade]

it has been a long time since i watched a tut on those so i did not know

[wispy ember]

So 3 gold, 2 food etc

[sour glade]

yeah cuz u split right?

[wispy ember]

You will need to spend more gems

[sour glade]

like how many?

[wispy ember]

Depends on what you do

[sour glade]

how many gems if i do 4 collections a day every 4 hours

[wispy ember]

So 2 full collections?

[sour glade]

yeah

[wispy ember]

Bruh

Why would you only do 2 collections

Do 2 and a half

[sour glade]

yeah i see how that sounds now

alright thx

[wispy ember]

You should be able to get it for around 200-250 gems if you skip at the best times

[sour glade]

wait so 5 logins of 4 hours intervals?

[wispy ember]

2 logins at 8 hour intervals and 1 login after 4 hours also works

So like at 8:00 then 16:00 then 20:00

Do one when you wake up. One 8 eight hours after you wake up and one before you sleep

[sour glade]

so 8:00 and then 4:00 and then 8:00?

[wispy ember]

Yeah

The later you do that last collection the better

[sour glade]

do I have to skip 1 hour before the event ends?

[wispy ember]

So like 8:00 then 4:00 then 22:00 would be better

Depends

[sour glade]

so 8:00 and then 4:00 and then 10:00?

[wispy ember]

Just do one when you wake up. One 8 eight hours after you wake up and one before you sleep

That would ensure the cheapest route for you

[sour glade]

alright thx for the help it has been a long time since i watched a tut

[wispy ember]

Can you do 7:00 then 17:00 then 11:00?

That would be perfect collections

[wispy ember]

Join the mlg server for guides on when to skip and stuff

[sour glade]

k thx

[wispy ember]

Ask the people there

In #questions-about-guides

This has gone very off topic

[sour glade]

Alright is this better?

Idea: Make mazes and tales way easier

-Make it so taht you don't have to log in every (insert number here)

[wispy ember]

The mazes and takes are fine the way they are imo

It’s very easy to do 4 collections a day in mazes

[sour glade]

not everyone is able to log in every (insert number here)

[sour glade]

not for everyone

[wispy ember]

No matter what number you choose someone won’t be able to do it

Rn most people are able to do it

[sour glade]

ig but when ppl r out of quarantine then

[wispy ember]

They could just do 8 hours of sleep

[glacial rock]

Oh no the new feedback may make some controversy

Not sure why people aren't talking about how boom is the exclusive legends pass

[rain spire]

cuz we couldve been Boomers

[glacial rock]

[grand haven]

@desert sapphire discuss ideas here, not in #submit-ideas

[desert sapphire]

My bad??

[void raft]

too lazy to search, but i think stamina + life regeneration in one effect was suggested several times

[lean kelp]

Oop

Only suggested it for my monster idea

[karmic fable]

@karmic fable here we go again, sleep status effect was suggested a multiple time

[signal lance]

Also who in gods name will keep a monster 5 levels below their Max level

Again same deal

Who is going to do that

[lean kelp]

Whales with 150s vs f2ps with 130s

[signal lance]

So the whales get to wreck us even more

[karmic fable]

there is alot of people who suggested it

not only u

[signal lance]

Some people dont bother to check wether that would impact F2P hard

[karmic fable]

LOOK DUDE

JUST GO TO THE SUBMIT IDEAS

SCROLL UP

[signal lance]

@karmic fableCheck #submit-ideas

Hell go to #ideas-voting

Did you check?

[ocean magnet]

He didnt lol

[ocean magnet]

This ^^^

[signal lance]

Bull crap that you did

[signal lance]

Stop trying to weasel your way out of these things and just take the time to actually look

Still counts

[karmic fable]

ITS STILL THE SAME

[karmic fable]

i just realized someone is named "19$ fortnite card"

still. counts.

[ocean magnet]

No point of arguing, just end it

[signal lance]

It still counts as a submitted Idea

If your not going to listen then your just wasting your time making Ideas that WILL get deleted since they are a repeat

And they were deleated

Why? because they have been in voting channel twice now

1 for deny and 1 as a torture effect

It still falls in the deny spot

Oh my god just listen for once

[ocean magnet]

Stop the argument, he won't give a damn about the answer anyways @signal lance

[signal lance]

I really should

[karmic fable]

im ignoring this kid from now on

waste of time

[signal lance]

Just do what I did

Block

[karmic fable]

wow

[signal lance]

What did he say?

[karmic fable]

I will dm it to you

[ocean magnet]

Bro

That invisible description sound so stupid

It actually managed to take my braincells

[signal lance]

Safe lock them dam it

[karmic fable]

nothing can see the invisible

lmao

wth

[ocean magnet]

Idea: Invisible
Description: Can see monster

💀

How stupid can this get AHAHAHA

[lean kelp]

@azure pier ruins her entire gimmick

[azure pier]

788810741422751774 how

[ocean magnet]

🌟 its a her btw 🌟

[signal lance]

Her main gimmick is to deal high single target damage

[ocean magnet]

She also has Pierce, As trait

Remember That

[signal lance]

People please just look at the monsters trait and other skills before making a suggestion to update said Monster

[ocean magnet]

Ngl? If the extra Mythic Monsters there is missing on my book i would rather get them

I dont really see stalkiller that kind of a hype, no AoE is kinda eh but she still has her strength

[grand haven]

MAHDragon came back huh

[tired fulcrum]

Bruh for real Man bouta make me sleep deprived again

[dusk root]

@karmic fable ur idea is a stun

But u said if same ele it will miss

Its not good

Stun still good

[void raft]

@karmic fable not all ideas should be suggested. You must think about how idea will affect the game before suggesting it

[dusk root]

That's why immune to stun trait is invented

[void raft]

Also, what is the logic behind sleep not working if attacker and target have the same element, or how sleep can be affected by level difference

[dusk root]

Lol

@azure pier i dont think they have to change the skill,they will not change it once its setted and that's the weakness. there's some dodge area monsters now so every monster has a pros and cons

[void raft]

Yeah, they wont change skillset

[dusk root]

Ye

Once its setted

Once they reveal it its proved many times

Proved/retouched

[karmic fable]

actually the devs is pretty smart bc it can counters roost and jaakuna

[dusk root]

Ye

[karmic fable]

preventing them to give the allies a boost

[void raft]

Logic, where is it

[dusk root]

Yeeeee

[karmic fable]

so im going for her

tho ingwe is also nice

[dusk root]

Ye but if u dont hv spek its a replacement

[void raft]

Huh? Pierce trait, so AoE skill can hit DA monsters

[dusk root]

Its not op for me against other monsters

[karmic fable]

it can kills shelly

[grand haven]

I just want anti monsters

[dusk root]

But it's good than nothing

That's RARE

To happen

[karmic fable]

u dont rlly have to waste an aoe skill to kill a single shelly when u only have 1 move left

[grand haven]

why does the same element cause the monster to not lose its turn?

[dusk root]

And like doesn't make any u know

[void raft]

Where is the logic

[dusk root]

Maybe that's the skill of sleep i also can't understand

Ye cuz every ne has differ skill can act

[grand haven]

same element doesnt miss?

[karmic fable]

there is a far more understandable sleep effect suggested by people

[void raft]

Accuracy isnt affected by elements lol

[dusk root]

Lol

[grand haven]

it's weak, yeah but it doesnt miss lmao

[dusk root]

Ye

Does stalkiller have physical skill?

I saw on leaks

She hv

[grand haven]

y'know what, nah.
Effect: Sleep
Target gets a nice nap, all monsters can't do any damage to it because it is having a nice nap

[dusk root]

Wait

So

[grand haven]

they don't miss

[dusk root]

Invisible one

[void raft]

Cuz accuracy reducing skills

[grand haven]

unless it's accuracy reduction

same element does not equal to reduced accuracy

[dusk root]

What kind of positive effects does it breaks? I mean goes into?

[dusk root]

Like um evasion?

Explain

It

[void raft]

Your ideas arent logical, and are weird in context of ML

[grand haven]

^

[dusk root]

Let him xplain for the trait

It maybe good

Or makes no sense

[void raft]

His invisibility effect idea is bad

[dusk root]

But its based on u know

[grand haven]

he wasn't

[void raft]

I never said it is good

[grand haven]

sorry, they*

[void raft]

He is ok

[dusk root]

So bfore you make a idea put the effect where does it effect, look if its fair and equal ,and check it many times

[grand haven]

ok

why delete it

also, there was an extra message

[clear stump]

Mustachio, you might want to see #recruit-experienced , or perhaps look on other ML servers too

[grand haven]

"Your invisibility and mine aren't the same"

and also, that was mockery

[void raft]

[grand haven]

o no

[north vale]

[grand haven]

insults

[dusk root]

My new idea sucks

[void raft]

Is there really no difference between my and his invisibility?

[grand haven]

bruh it's night and day

[dusk root]

Lol

I think my idea has more logic

[grand haven]

damn man are you mad?

[dusk root]

I think he is

[void raft]

I clearly didnt

[dusk root]

Lpl

Lol

[void raft]

He deleted message

[karmic fable]

Ez idea was inspired

[grand haven]

ah yes, same name = copied

[dusk root]

Ye

[void raft]

I dont suggest to use joystick to move on arena lmao

[grand haven]

even though the description is completely different

[dusk root]

XD

[clear stump]

Woe is me

[dusk root]

Woe?

[grand haven]

you see, this makes sense because...

[dusk root]

Which?

[grand haven]

same element and 4 levels below

[dusk root]

Is super rare

[grand haven]

no that doesn't happen

[dusk root]

He can attack other enemy duh

In every battle there is 3 monsters

If he has same element with other he can attack the next one

But the trait is kinda interesting

The invisible

[void raft]

MADHragon

[dusk root]

Study it proerly

[lean kelp]

Why do ppl want global back so much 🤔

Who actually recruited on there

[dusk root]

Pls plan ur trait properly

[grand haven]

oh boohoo

[dusk root]

It can be good

[grand haven]

that is some seriously petty insults

[dusk root]

Lol

Its for the game like how to run

[grand haven]

alright

[dusk root]

Why there's no any latest ideas voting 😭

[grand haven]

so invisibility gives the monster movement right?

[dusk root]

What are the EFFECTS it can pass by?

[grand haven]

by the joystick

and the monster can move around and deals damage

[dusk root]

Example evasion

And more

[grand haven]

wrong message?

[lean kelp]

Crap

[dusk root]

Idk

[dusk root]

Like um phrobic shield

[grand haven]

so like a moba game

[lean kelp]

Cuz isa said he's lazy rn and all the time to move them

There you go

[grand haven]

[dusk root]

He's gone

He said ask questions

[grand haven]

League of Legends

[dusk root]

Like 5v5 3v3

Players

And more

[lean kelp]

Multilayer online battle arena game

[dusk root]

Ye

Ml is only 1v1

Role playing

Game

[grand haven]

alright

[lean kelp]

Well its more 1vAI

[void raft]

Duels

[lean kelp]

Apart from live duels

[grand haven]

yes

[dusk root]

Ohh

4-10 turns?

[lean kelp]

No

[grand haven]

alright

[dusk root]

Hmmmmmmmm

[grand haven]

the bots aren't blind

[karmic fable]

no need to post it here

[grand haven]

the AI will always know where it is

therefore it's useless in PvP

[dusk root]

I can't understand ughhhh what kind of invisibles?

Evasion?

Phrobic shield?

Ughhh

[void raft]

Hard to understand, hard to implement into the game, and just weird overall

[grand haven]

It's not good either

[dusk root]

So its like evasion

:>

[grand haven]

but the AI still knows where it is

[dusk root]

U just need to add more details cuz its just like common like u know

[grand haven]

it's AI

[dusk root]

Its like evasion+idk

[lean kelp]

Also the ml battles are 2-d on a flat plane, each monster having fixed positions, its not gonna work.

[dusk root]

Cuz its like common evasion with other effect added

So

[karmic fable]

because they evade the attack

[lean kelp]

It really isnt

[dusk root]

Like that?

So the point is does it miss the attack?

[dusk root]

Answer

[lean kelp]

And then you can walk around the battle?

[clear stump]

But why

[lean kelp]

While the enemy also has to walk around to find you?

[dusk root]

So it doesn't make sense at all

Case closed

[void raft]

[grand haven]

But then it's AI so it automatically detects it

[dusk root]

Hmmmmm

[grand haven]

and then attacks it

[dusk root]

So.....

The dmg still affects YES or NO?

Cuz if u come invisible

U know

Ur still in battle

[grand haven]

damage

[dusk root]

Bruh

U dk dmg lol

[grand haven]

bruh

[dusk root]

So it doesn't makesense AT ALL

[grand haven]

Why is everybody ignoring how this thing is either useless or broken in PvP??

[dusk root]

Lol

[lean kelp]

So basically the monster is invisible to the player, the invisible enemy can walk around and hide their position while the opponent has to guess where they are walking to aim there attacks, only then they will take damage

[dusk root]

Cuz the dmg will hit and u cant choose ur own skill u wnt to run

[grand haven]

Because either
a. The AI always knows where it is and kills it
b. The AI can't figure it out and you become invulnerable for 10 turns

[dusk root]

😂

[grand haven]

here's another question

[lean kelp]

Tried my best to comprehend it

[grand haven]

what about AoE?

[dusk root]

Lol

[lean kelp]

No it's not.

[grand haven]

how will AoE affect Invisibility

[dusk root]

If it misess its AREA DODGE

[lean kelp]

[dusk root]

Wait

Pls silence

[lean kelp]

We understand the status effect oml

[grand haven]

we

know

stop

[dusk root]

So.......

[void raft]

Can i leave arena while being invisible?

[dusk root]

Wait i got it!!!!

[grand haven]

answer this @karmic fable

[lean kelp]

Answer our questions instead of repeating yourself

[dusk root]

I got it!!!

I got it!!!!!

[void raft]

[dusk root]

So u mean is

The enemy can't control their skillset

[grand haven]

also bruh just walk into the enemy

[dusk root]

In battle

[lean kelp]

The effect is trash, end of

[grand haven]

answer me!

[dusk root]

U said tapping random

[void raft]

Consider balancing and logic

[rain spire]

wat happening

[dusk root]

I mean the balancing is bad

Do not make it as a trait

[grand haven]

How will this Invisibility works against AoE

[void raft]

There is no balance at all

[karmic fable]

why caps?

[grand haven]

AREA OF EFFECT

[lean kelp]

How do aoes work, what about enemy ai, what about if the invisible enemy has guard down.

[dusk root]

Make it as a EFFECT

[lean kelp]

These are the questions we need answers for

Egg

[dusk root]

Lol

[lean kelp]

🥚

[dusk root]

U said invisbility trait

[lean kelp]

Oml

[dusk root]

Idea : Trait : Invisible
can see the invisible monsters

Isn't it?

[karmic fable]

why caps?

[void raft]

Oh my lord?

[grand haven]

What. About. AoE??

[rain spire]

says the guy who put it as trait

[dusk root]

Isn't it?

[lean kelp]

Sí

[dusk root]

Isn't it?

[grand haven]

good god just stop. Stop.

[void raft]

Smh invisible as trait and as effect works differently

[dusk root]

Lol

[void raft]

Lord nebotus?

[dusk root]

Wait ye

Stop pls

I got it

Its a effect and trait

Its divided into two

[lean kelp]

👀 👀 👀 👀

[grand haven]

@karmic fable How will invisibility work against a skill that damages everyone

[clear stump]

@karmic fable turn off caps lock

[karmic fable]

hi game & watch

[dusk root]

So.the trait is immune against the invisbility skill!

Am.i right?

[void raft]

Can we just make list of questions, send it to him and give him some time to answer?

[dusk root]

@karmic fable

[dusk root]

Ye

I think

[dusk root]

Maybe last question

[grand haven]

I just don't expect anything with this 13-year-old

he already proves confusing and spiteful in #monster-ideas

[dusk root]

Lol

[karmic fable]

i think he is under 13

[lean kelp]

So aoes can't be aimed?

[grand valve]

hey guys stop arguing in this server or the moderators will keep muting kicked or banned you

[grand haven]

alright interesting

[dusk root]

So the question is,is the trait immune to the skill invisbility?

[void raft]

They have to warn first

[clear stump]

I am sat here watching

[grand haven]

can you spam the area until you find it?

[clear stump]

[dusk root]

Ye

[lean kelp]

Can the invisible monster choose when to not be invisible?

[grand haven]

What if I press the AoE and tap it somewhere

[void raft]

what about moves that remove positive effects?

[grand haven]

will it register the invisible monster

and attack the rest

or will it not affect anything at all

[dusk root]

Lol

My question not answered yet

[grand haven]

Then the damage will show... at the location

of the invis monster

therefore killing it?

[lean kelp]

What if the invisible monster has a torture?

[grand haven]

then what's the point??

The damage still shows, making it visible

[lean kelp]

Also what if they're possessed?

[dusk root]

Or corrupted

[void raft]

@karmic fable how long have you been playing ML?

[void raft]

its the same as possession

[dusk root]

Ye ik

[lean kelp]

Will they attack themselves and reveal themselves or only be able to attack the allies, or does the possession ai need to aim the attacks?

Also how does ai aim the attacks

[grand valve]

i think that mahdragon is underage

[grand haven]

alright how will AI deal with it

AI can't tap the screen

[lean kelp]

What if the invisible monster is possessed or has a torture

[void raft]

too many "what if" that cant be answered

[grand haven]

that's what ya get when you make a complex idea but with vague explanations

[grand haven]

so?

How will AI deal with Invis

[void raft]

you can answer some of them, we can ask a lot more

[grand haven]

AI can't tap the screen, it's the bots in the game, how will it register Invisibility

[lean kelp]

What

So does the invisible enemy take damage from the torture effects?

[grand haven]

yes

[lean kelp]

Does the possessed invisible enemy attack itself

[grand haven]

the ones you fight in PvP

and adventure mode enemies

[dusk root]

Wait what?!?!

[lean kelp]

[grand haven]

and the dungeon enemies

[dusk root]

This is still the topic?

[grand haven]

how will they attack the invis enemy

[void raft]

it will be for a very long time

[dusk root]

Ye

[lean kelp]

So the tortures also have their own ais as to whether they can aim their torture damage?

[grand haven]

are you...

dumb

[dusk root]

Mahdragon will be toasted

[lean kelp]

And possessed enemies have their own aiming ai at themselves?

[dusk root]

UwU

[grand haven]

unless you don't realize, if the bots can't attack the enemies they recharge

they don't "figure out"

[void raft]

@strong sigil how have you been playing ML?

[dusk root]

Im so tired in this topic

[grand haven]

so how do they "figure out" like us humans

[dusk root]

This will.be forever

[lean kelp]

I dont think English is his first language.

[dusk root]

Lol

[void raft]

its urdu

[grand haven]

Massive X to doubt right there

[void raft]

so you lied to me?

[grand haven]

I have a better understanding of AI in 3 months than you in 3 years?

[void raft]

you said so lmao

[dusk root]

Ok

[void raft]

its very odd to hide your native language

[dusk root]

I think the topic ended

Wait no

They still fighting

[grand haven]

he kinda lies a lot

[void raft]

he deleted all dms lmao

[karmic fable]

what happened here

[dusk root]

I think this is a fight now

[grand haven]

I don't even know if he's actually 13

[dusk root]

Lol

[karmic fable]

oh its MAHDragon..

[dusk root]

He's like a kid

Ohhh ok

[grand haven]

AI doesn't tap at the screen!

[dusk root]

Like confusion

[void raft]

imagine 1680x1000 smth screen and AI has to pick one pixel

[grand haven]

It's not a being outside the screen!

[dusk root]

Lol

[grand haven]

It's inside the game

[dusk root]

Cuz the way you talk

/explain

[grand haven]

and if it can't attack the enemy, it recharges

[dusk root]

Ye

[grand haven]

it physically doesn't have the capability to guess

[dusk root]

There's a button clled AUTO

So it taps the skillls not the screen

I mean

Not outside the skills

It also taps screen but only skills

[void raft]

technically its possible

but its pure random

[dusk root]

Its controlled

Cropped

[grand haven]

It doesn't tap!

It registers an ability inside the game

[karmic fable]

AI Doesnt work like that

[grand haven]

then targets it to an enemy inside the game

It. Does. Not. Tap

[dusk root]

It taps why? Cuz when it choses 1 enemy attack it RANDOMLY taps a enemy

[grand haven]

On the screen

[dusk root]

At the auto button

[grand haven]

It chooses the enemy

[dusk root]

Ye

[grand haven]

yes

[dusk root]

So it ALSO taps

[grand haven]

inside of the game

[dusk root]

Ye

[grand haven]

no!

inside the game

[dusk root]

Ye

Ohhhh

[void raft]

its called recharge

5 years old player lmao

[grand haven]

so AI does nothing against it

[dusk root]

I just lost 100 braincells at this topic

[grand haven]

this is just a 10-turn evasion at this point!

[dusk root]

Explaining understanding

And more

[dusk root]

And its unfair but if u hv per its
Great

[grand haven]

Yes. That is the definition of doing nothing against it

[dusk root]

Ally?!?!?!

Why?

[grand haven]

10-turn cooldown

forget it.

[dusk root]

I thought only on it self

[void raft]

just delete your idea, think about BALANCING and LOGIC, and dont turn ML into something completely different

[grand haven]

This idea's dumb from the start

[rain spire]

10 turns is another dumb thing

[dusk root]

BALANCING IS 0 POINT

[rain spire]

is too op and unfair

[grand haven]

Just don't discuss any further, it's garbage

[void raft]

and think about a reason for devs to add your idea into the game

[dusk root]

That's why per is invented

But still unfair

If

[grand haven]

SP can't do any worse than this, and they added UA

[dusk root]

U hv no per

[dusk root]

Lol

[rain spire]

Thats why Chuckle is best

[grand haven]

I'll wait for the next idea

[dusk root]

They can do more worse cuz the removed og and cosmic dungeons

Kk

[void raft]

dont just do it better, rethink it completely

[dusk root]

Case temporarily closed

[rain spire]

thats sad but Battlegrounds is more sad

[void raft]

take into consideration everything that exists in ML

[dusk root]

The battlegrounds are deleted

[void raft]

thats not the only problem, there are dozens of them

[karmic fable]

have u ever knew what ai do

[dusk root]

Lol

[void raft]

bruh

most of them are in this chat already

[dusk root]

Lol

[grand haven]

AI, AoE, Random guessing, possession

AND SOLVING IT MADE IT WORSE

End of discussion.

[dusk root]

Solved but not CLEARLY

[void raft]

as player that have been playing ML for 5 years, you should be able to think about all problems by yourself

[rain spire]

not THAT kind if solving

[dusk root]

Ye

[grand haven]

Invisibility
Positive status effect that makes monster invisible. Invisible monsters can be targeted only by monsters with true vision. Invisible monsters cant be targeted by monster with pierce but without true vision
This is better

[grand haven]

I only played for 3 months and I thought about all this lmao

[dusk root]

I just played from December 27

And i understand all

Of pros and cons

And balancing

[grand haven]

actually wait

I played for 8 months lmao

[karmic fable]

i dont understand ur invisible traits ngl

its just

[grand haven]

I joined the server 3 months ago lmao

[dusk root]

Like im playing for 5 months

Going 6

[rain spire]

i first played at 2019 Jan

[karmic fable]

Cant see the monster

[grand haven]

It's uselessly broken and that's that

[void raft]

nope

[rain spire]

nah

[dusk root]

Not showing

[void raft]

it can choose random pixel on screen, but cant tap

[dusk root]

But choses

[dusk root]

Ye

[karmic fable]

the only ai that taps

is an auto clicker

[dusk root]

Ye

[void raft]

thats imitation

[dusk root]

That's why its programmed as AUTO

Ok bye

[void raft]

nope

[dusk root]

Ill leave u guys

Goodluck!

[rain spire]

have fun

[void raft]

each monster is a lot of pixels

[karmic fable]

wait for me

[dusk root]

Kk

[void raft]

what button

[rain spire]

????

[void raft]

what button and why

oh, i see

[rain spire]

....

[grand haven]

please, just accept that your idea isnt going to work in ML

It's complex and has a lot of errors

[void raft]

you tap with fingers, AI doesnt have fingers

[grand haven]

That your explanation only makes worse

[rain spire]

look man your idea is not even going to be planned, just deal with it then we end it

[grand haven]

you lack information about how things work

[void raft]

it doesnt

[grand haven]

and you try to defend against facts

stop

it's not going to, and never going to work

[karmic fable]

@karmic fable just shut up and stop trying hard for it to be in monster legends

[void raft]

the skills are buttons themselves

[karmic fable]

ur making us the victims

[rain spire]

are we in a karen moment?

[void raft]

button.PerformClick(); is how AI "taps"

[grand haven]

thats just zero damage for 4 turns

[void raft]

your idea isnt simple in any way

[rain spire]

hmmm doesnt look simple m8

plus 4 turns is just too much

[void raft]

when evasion is 1-2 turns

[grand haven]

its not simple, nor is it balanced, nor is it fun to play against

[karmic fable]

bro if a mod came and u blame us on this

[void raft]

evasion is no attack

space time is no damage

[grand haven]

its dumb, its broken and its dreadful

unless you detail every single thing and fix everything then it will work

[karmic fable]

just shut up or we r the one taking the responsibility of ur childish act

[grand haven]

and hes gone

great

[karmic fable]

good

he is annoying

[rain spire]

finally

[grand haven]

I feel proud for myself 2 years ago

15 now and I feel more adult than ever

[karmic fable]

im 13

[rain spire]

this dumbest argument i been in discord

[karmic fable]

😳

[karmic fable]

he always makes us argue

[rain spire]

hopefully he wont go ultimate karen mode

[void raft]

take your time

[grand haven]

sure

if you can somehow make it work, you're welcome to try

[void raft]

downvote is also an option

[grand haven]

let's just not talk about this anymore

forget it

like Isa said, nothing happened, so let's keep the ideas rolling

[rain spire]

yeah lets skipped this idea

[void raft]

can we then move to this?

Idea: skill effect

Transformation:
Makes a ally having mythic stats/makes an mythic ally have Corrupted stats

It lasts for 2 turns

corrupted thalassa

[grand haven]

nah that's a mythic ally

wait

you can't stack the effects right

[rain spire]

wait so wouldnt this mean Mythics get double stats

nothing then ok

[tired fulcrum]

@grand haven I missed 300+ messages

[grand haven]

uh hey

it was just discussion

[tired fulcrum]

I see a very long one at that

[final flint]

Hello Back, I'm Louie.

[tired fulcrum]

Hello Louie, I’m limbo

[void raft]

@lime ice

same in #submit-ideas

[karmic fable]

ip grab?

[void raft]

he also sent this in all bug reporting channels

[karmic fable]

prob all channel

[lean kelp]

Raid

It's in every channel they're not role restricted access

[void raft]

so event channels are role restricted, but bug channels arent?

[clear stump]

cleared

asked for ban

also he had no role so he could see all channels

[void raft]

next time i will ping you

[clear stump]

thanks

Roleless role = restricted
No role at all = unrestricted

[void raft]

no role joined here before roleless role was added?

His invitation links are still in bug reporting channels

@clear stump

[clear stump]

ping

yes i know

ive asked for removal

[void raft]

Mari not deleting something that isnt feedback

[clear stump]

have patience

she could be busy even if it says she's online

[grand haven]

could you delete the messages in #monster-ideas

[dark granite]

its everywhere, takes time to find it

rocks has been helping

[clear stump]

ah im on it

[grand haven]

alright, tell us

[rain spire]

...oh god...

[dark granite]

[clear stump]

Turn off the caps lock

[void raft]

Range attacks exist

[clear stump]

Turn it off. Now.

[dark granite]

no need to yell at us MAH 😩

[clear stump]

Caps lock spam isn't allowed.

[dark granite]

YES it is

yes

yes we do

[void raft]

[rain spire]

says the guy who kept using cap locks abovr

[dark granite]

[grand haven]

^

[rain spire]

[grand haven]

[void raft]

I did

Lmao

[grand haven]

yes, we all do

so you're saying, all of the monsters can move now

[lean kelp]

Oh God this again.

[karmic fable]

omg

[grand haven]

?

[rain spire]

Bruh

[karmic fable]

not infront of a mm pls

[void raft]

Can you just accept the fact that your idea is bad

[clear stump]

[dark granite]

[grand haven]

so the AI can move the monster, but we can't

and after we move we lose a turn

[lean kelp]

So at what point does he get a mute

[clear stump]

This has been going for days. Not trying to discourage you from ideas but this is Total Blind or Evasion just under a different name now.

[karmic fable]

im not dealing with this again see ya

[dark granite]

im out

[grand haven]

but it feels like that

[clear stump]

You haven't, but ok.

[dark granite]

man, its just evasion pretty much

[rain spire]

he did above the texts

[dark granite]

evasion with a chance

[clear stump]

The concept changes constantly. I am getting tired of this

[karmic fable]

an ai that can tap is auto clicker

[grand haven]

Listen, the moving mechanic sucks

[dark granite]

[rain spire]

MAH

[void raft]

Even if your idea will go to voting channel, it either wont be understood or will be downvoted

[rain spire]

thats evasion

[karmic fable]

that's auto

[dark granite]

WOW? rEaLLY?

[karmic fable]

auto works differently

isa just give him a mute pls

[grand haven]

Here's my fix I just came up:
Invisibility: Target can't be targetted by any monster, but can still be affected by AoE but not take any damage. Last 1 turn

[dark granite]

still not that good tho

i dont likey

[grand haven]

If you remove the moving mechanic it's just that

[rain spire]

isnt that basically Area Dodge but the opposite

[karmic fable]

yep

[grand haven]

yes

[rain spire]

lmao

[dark granite]

single dodge

not 🆒

[grand haven]

but if you move you lose a turn

[karmic fable]

what its like megataunt?

[dark granite]

its not clear

[grand haven]

dyno'd

[dark granite]

makes 0 sense to me

[rain spire]

nope

[grand haven]

like I said, if it cost a turn to move, it's not worth it

[dark granite]

somebody just mute him

[grand haven]

you just make PvP bounty hunt

[void raft]

[grand haven]

I'd rather kill all the enemies

[rain spire]

i cant believe

you this

[grand haven]

before trying to guess

[dark granite]

yes find the enemy in a tiny arena

[grand haven]

where the invis one is

[void raft]

Dyno too slow, i saw the bad word

[dark granite]

the idea is not good man

im sorry

[grand haven]

yes, I'd rather kill the rest

before moving on to the annoyance

[dark granite]

[karmic fable]

my brain is completely shattered rn

[dark granite]

man just stop with the idea

[karmic fable]

bc of u

[dark granite]

ur melting our brains

[void raft]

@karmic fable can you show screenshot with 3 or 5 years egg avatar?

[grand haven]

Invisibility, without the moving mechanic, is just Space-time

[dark granite]

i swer i get dum r after tis

[rain spire]

my iq is beyond low

[karmic fable]

ok and?

[dark granite]

iz 2 complectated

[lean kelp]

They all seem pretty visible to me

[dark granite]

ok

but anyway

[grand haven]

We know what it will do

[dark granite]

the idea is not good

[grand haven]

we know what the effect will do

we don't need a demonstration

we can see it play out in our head

[karmic fable]

everything.

[clear stump]

the concept is changin constantly

[karmic fable]

u made it complicated

[grand haven]

it doesn't work, that's the confusion

[dark granite]

you can't explain it properly, it sucks, and you should just stop

[grand haven]

the concept doesn't work in this game

[clear stump]

first theres a joystick then there isnt then its 3d hen its not

it doesnt work in a game like ml

[karmic fable]

other than making it simple u make it complicated

[rain spire]

imagine going to TedEd speech with this crap

[grand haven]

^ this

[dark granite]

go suggest it to raid shadow legends or something @karmic fable

[grand haven]

that sums up the entire thing about this

[dark granite]

thats a game that can hold it

but

not ml

[karmic fable]

RAID SHADOW LEGENDS LOL

[dark granite]

idk

first thing i thought of

[grand haven]

You can't pull a todd howards and say 'it just works'

because it doesn't

[lean kelp]

Can't wait to see him ignore everything just said and continue to try and explain how it works despite us already understanding

[dark granite]

like an arena that can find stuff or something

idk

is that even raid shadow legends-

anyway

[karmic fable]

not me

[grand haven]

Isn't that surprising since he's 13

[karmic fable]

i dont understand any words he is saying

[grand haven]

acting like a 9

[dark granite]

he stopped talking?

WOO :D

[rain spire]

oh thank god

[karmic fable]

can someone make it short for me

[dark granite]

uh

basically

[karmic fable]

the explanation

[void raft]

That level of self convincing tho

[dark granite]

i think this is how he meant it

the monster is invisible and the player clicks anywhere on the screen to find it (one shot only) if they dont its like mega taunt+ evasion except you need like precision or something to hit it

and it lasts for a certain amount of time

[karmic fable]

.

[dark granite]

like 3 turns or something

[rain spire]

and pierce can still insta kill a invisible monster?

[dark granite]

it sucks anyway

i dont think so

idk

[rain spire]

oh

[dark granite]

i cant pick up what he was saying

[karmic fable]

other than making it simple like "monster is invisible and cannot be hit for 1 turn"?

[dark granite]

but its something like that

[dark granite]

honestly, don't know why he's explaining it like mega taunt+ evasion + oneshot to find it

and i think

he meant its permanent

but then thats too op

[rain spire]

and said it was 10 turns

[dark granite]

bRUH

[karmic fable]

i love how this kid is basically not caring how this will change the meta

[dark granite]

it would have to be a trash monster like firesaur to have it or its too op

[grand haven]

Space-Time + Baby Reversion - Untargettable AoE + Pierce can't target

[dark granite]

wait

firesaur is op

thunder eagle then

[grand haven]

this is his idea in a nutshell

[void raft]

He wanted an effect that would make monster invisible, then you need to place invisible monster somewhere on battlefield, and enemy has one attempt to try and guess where invisible monster is. If you didn't guess, you lost turn

[karmic fable]

[dark granite]

yeah but then he said stuff like it being a mega taunt

[rain spire]

If he explain the idea in the most smartest way possible i coudlve agree

[dark granite]

brain is dying after this tho

[void raft]

He said a lot of everything, but this is how it was originally

[rain spire]

but what he was explaining was nothing but confusion and leave us brain ded

[void raft]

Except for joysticks

[dark granite]

he wanted it to be like the most op thing ever

[karmic fable]

he is gone yes

[grand haven]

not only is it complex, it doesn't work

that's that

[karmic fable]

and what is with the AI thing

[rain spire]

The galaxy is safe

[dark granite]

mega taunt + nothing can find it + joy stick? + bad explaining + one shot to find it + 10 turns + a bunch of other things

all he did

was make a bad idea

very

bad

idea

[lean kelp]

He never even answered my question on how possession and tortures work with it

[grand haven]

and tried to make it into something smart

[dark granite]

lol

[karmic fable]

just imagine this with a glass cannon

[grand haven]

but dug a deeper hole

This is his problem, he doesn't know when to stop or how to stop

[dark granite]

anyway, i probably lost some smart after this, i can feel my brain melting after trying to understand this

[grand haven]

he keeps going and going and arguing left and right

[dark granite]

it will probably ooze out of my ears at this point

[grand haven]

but the fact is he doesn't understand

[dark granite]

he couldn't even explain what it does

[karmic fable]

he just makes it complicated

[dark granite]

like he said a bunch of random stuff in hopes that it would work

[karmic fable]

then says "YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER APPRECIATE"