ideas-feedback-discussion

[signal lance]

Impossible to moderate

[mighty dagger]

What even made global chat good with all the terrible stuff without moderation

its surprising people still want it back and i can expect they want those types of bullying or creeps in global chat

i think thats why he said that global was better

[wanton orbit]

@vale prawn i don't think #general-feedback is the right channel for that, sorry

[vale prawn]

Which channel

Is the right one

[wanton orbit]

#ml-general-discussion is the right one, I think

[mighty dagger]

why does sp always have intolerant devs or higher ups to add in these features

watch as someone says “just use a monster with possession / stun immune”

[lime ice]

Global was an extremely unsafe environment especially for minors, lots of bullying and sexual herrasment

[flint stone]

Statements.

[wanton orbit]

I feel like most of the big changes come at the beginning of a new season

[slim magnet]

@obsidian wren "you are killing your own game by allowing people..." are you sure there's not a "not" before "allowing"

[obsidian wren]

yes

they are encouraging that type of behavior first, then banning people later 🤷‍♀️

we very well know many do it in the top teams yet only certain individuals are targetted

we will never know the reasons

it will only piss off people more, nothing else

[obsidian wren]

Thanks to SP, this type of behavior is being encouraged 🙌

[slim magnet]

💀

[obsidian wren]

2 of them arent banned, 3 got unfairly banned by sp. so yeah, thank you again sp

[obsidian wren]

another fun fact: all players banned in df have been directly banned without warning. while others get a warning. nice 😂

1 player got banned once because he got 4m points in rune lords without sp detecting no new runes he crafted?!? common, how blind can you be?

happy to know we need secret connections with devs to stay unbanned

[queen seal]

Who did

[obsidian wren]

marcos duh

[lilac herald]

moving to discord wasnt really any better you guys cant control if a person direct messages a person

[signal lance]

With that the person can report the sender and discord themselves will deal with it much better

[lime ice]

You can control that
Report is option to mods or to discord or only let friends dm you

Also block the person that harasses you is a great option

[wispy spear]

why not bring back global chat though?

[signal lance]

You want to deal with the racism, sexism, predators, and all the other stuff that go around in Global?

So many other games are taking Global Chats out because of these issues and its been like 2-3 years since its been removed so its pretty obvios that SP isn't going to bring it back

[wispy spear]

yeah, that's pretty fair

[dapper oyster]

@karmic fable you don't need to do coa anymore with the pvp beta, just pay 5 gems

[hollow nova]

unless they don't have it

(like me )

[dapper oyster]

wait faster

[slim magnet]

And like me in my main acc and my alt ( and others acc it has)

[slim magnet]

[slim magnet]

Nah

You just don't want that cause you have good task and good survey cause you leave in USA so for you that's lot of easier to get ranked ancestors than us, as you are able to get r5 you don't want for more person get it cause you want be called "pro" by from a lot (while you are not "pro")

You want that, you call it by yourself

Well, how ppl without survey and task will do?

No you don't know how to play the game

Did you see how bh was nerfed last times?

Not yet

That's mean you don't know it yet

[slim magnet]

@high wolf I think they already doing it

Lol

[high wolf]

rlly?

[lean kelp]

People need to just quit instead of writing feedback every 2 weeks when SP messes up, they clearly do not care and do not want to bother listening

[mighty dagger]

^^^

@hazy nebula would it surprise you that sp has never give a damn about the community

[hollow nova]

sentri i like how you didn’t react to the 📧 so your reactions are just ‘they don’t car’

[mighty dagger]

Because they dont car

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-what-now-toy-story-sad-leave-me-alone-gif-11563815

if only they car…

[hollow nova]

me when they don’t car 😔

[dark iris]

It's not SP fault anymore, Take-Two is forcing them to squish every bit of cash and F2P players are not their main source of income
They only want to profit even if SP dies in the process

[hazy nebula]

nah, not really

[mighty dagger]

yet we still make feedbacks even theres no point

[hollow nova]

this is what we in the business call venting

[slim magnet]

Lol so true

[wooden thunder]

people seem to not care take two exist smh

[wooden thunder]

real

[signal lance]

^^^^^. It's hard to believe but SP genuinely cares about their players its just that Take-Two doesn't

[lean kelp]

did SP tell you that?

[signal lance]

No, if you read through a lot of stuff SP does indeed care. Take two just doesn't

[lean kelp]

id like to hear of an example

[signal lance]

DC is a good one. They actually fix bugs and mistakes once they get the time. Like right now they had to double check a ton but when one of their skin features was bugged and causing the dragon to do less damage they got it fixed in the week. Then comes their new speed mechanics where player feedback literally resulted in getting it re-balanced multiple times with Hackster even coming into state that they will be looking through feedback on speed

[lean kelp]

notice how thats all Dragon City

we are in the Monster Legends server

[signal lance]

It still shows something. Perhaps Take two is more strict on ML than they are with DC

[dark iris]

Or maybe they care more about DC than ML?

[verbal briar]

i just want to be able to by ranking and crafting slots instead of having to rent them

renting makes no sense

even if we have to pay 100 gems for each slot it would honestly be fine

just no renting

[signal lance]

Knowing me. 300 gems for 3 permanent rank up pods would pay for themselves after a few days in my hands

No joke with all my rankings those 300 gems spent would pay for themselves in a week

[kindred cargo]

@spice breach banger idea

make it 3k

[mighty dagger]

Heres a cooler idea

dont make it give out gems

[mighty dagger]

my idea is so cool and smart it got downvoted

by so many people

[kindred cargo]

boo we want the socialpoint company to give us 20k gems each while their business comes crashing down

🔥 🔥

[wooden thunder]

pretty much
@signal lance ur wrong

[wooden thunder]

take two in question:

[mighty dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[kindred cargo]

sarcasm in question:

[dapper oyster]

this server doesn't understand sarcasm

[kindred cargo]

😭 😭 😭

[wooden thunder]

because they want it to be true!!!

in ML case not DC case

[dark iris]

Why the ping tho?

[wooden thunder]

because you are right and i want undead slayer to see it

[signal lance]

But I've seen it already though

[dark iris]

Also, you can reply without unnecessary pinging.
Like this

[mighty dagger]

the new feedback

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[karmic fable]

If it wasn´t for Take Two it would look like the feedback describes

[torn apex]

me when i read that one #submit-ideas suggetion:

[dark iris]

@hybrid egret you gotta ask support about that, not feedback

[mighty dagger]

@hybrid egret i had a stroke while having a panic attack while text and driving by reading your feedback

[hollow nova]

just because your rune temple is level 12, doesn't mean your 12s can't go to 11s

only 14s won't downgrade

and just use 1-1-1 method to get what you want, it's your best option

[signal lance]

@raw swan why would you want to re-live the era of the Forsaken?

[raw swan]

Doomsday era? I don’t? Really just did it for the tickets

[raw swan]

Oh, you mean legendary era? I think mythics while cool also ruined the meta and game, I feel it was so much calmer and better back then; also it was so much more popular and had many others playing who were all excited to play, maybe it’s just that I grew up with that version

Also what’s so horrible about the other ideas? Not like SP’s ever gonna listen

[signal lance]

The Forsaken Era was way worse than this current Era

If you think this Era is bad then you wouldn't like the Era where all mons had to be bought

[dark iris]

Probably next year there will be another new rarity and myths will become the new irrelevant legendaries

[signal lance]

Yeah, But still going back to the forsaken is a place many would have quit on the spot considering the...nightmares that brought

[raw swan]

Well then I mean any place from the legendary era that was calm and the most populated

If it was that bad

[signal lance]

Honestly there isn't a place like that

Considering if we go back far we just have the battle of "Who's denier is faster" and if you don't go back far enough you deal with "That Demise is going to kill me" or you could hit the mid point where "I actually need Samael the Plague Carrier to even compete at this point"

[wooden thunder]

atleast you could use insane strats unlike now where its just made of of 6 monster

and you like always need baba or jen

or your not making it to top 100

[signal lance]

Those strats wheren't even insane and you still where stuck with like 6-7 good mons as well

[wooden thunder]

no as in

alteast you could pull off some teams that normal can't even happen during mythic

unless forstaken era is just thalassa meta only

[signal lance]

Like what? Demise + Double Attackers? the dreaded Voltiak + Timmerion? Any Theyates team?

[wooden thunder]

no

i don't even mean by that

[signal lance]

Them name some of those strats out then

[wooden thunder]

tda

i think i remember bonesaw videos where he uses diffrent team strat

idk if you watch him

but for sure the warmaster era was kinda laughable

you would see triple warmaster or double warmaster + nemisis

I think that all i can remeber

[signal lance]

I know who Bonesaw is but his team strats where just what where the most OP mons I can use to make a team... which is literally right now. Like seriosly a lot of those required some of the best mons ranked to a degree with the best runes like Wyrm, Eisul, Frosilka needed Wyrm at least R3, Eisul R4, And Frosilka R3 to even be usable

[wooden thunder]

and people don't like now people it was to much money spending and meta is just using like 2 or 3 good mons

since p2w mons are always a fat flop

[signal lance]

Same deal as the legendary era

[wooden thunder]

i don't really remeber that but alright

atleast some of them were good compare to now...

i think grakon was good for a grass elite

[signal lance]

Unless someone was soly dedicated to only working on ONE team you had accounts with R3/ maybe an R4 here and there that where going to get decimated if they tried to get to the top ranks... which coincidently gate kept mons like Thallasa or Elvira from being ranked and used on attack

[wooden thunder]

during L pass

[wooden thunder]

isn' that what happens now

[signal lance]

Getting rank up material in the legendary era was way harder compared to now

[wooden thunder]

people want it to be buff:

[signal lance]

We got like what, 9 elementium a week and we had to do the elemental rank up dungeons and the only "sustainable way" to rank up mons like Grakon or Wyrm was to either whale out or breed so many Nature and Light epics to constantly extract which will take you months

[wooden thunder]

I think people like legendarys because of how some design are cool or how most of them are op

[signal lance]

I mean thats why. Legendaries have the most broken skill to date

[wooden thunder]

i think the only reason why people didn't like new mythic because there no mythic that can be broken in general

[signal lance]

Wildbird would legit be better than JJ and Madam Fusion will always be better than Shadow purely because she doesn't trigger relics

[wooden thunder]

that break mythic

[wooden thunder]

and legend thalassa would be the best deiner if her midthic form had some tool to help her...

[wooden thunder]

funny how Legend madam fusion will alway be better then her mythic forms kinda sad when you think about it

the mythic form will always sometimes feel like a down grade minus lord inheitor or lord nebous...

[signal lance]

Yeah but in general Legendaries where so much more broken than any Ancestor or Mythic SP will ever release. I mean Wickah is literally the best support a denier or attacker can ever ask for

[wooden thunder]

i think sometimes legends would have diffrent sets to but idk

oh well not like SP cares for the game anyways they are to focus on dc...

[raw swan]

People don’t like my ideas lol

[signal lance]

@raw swanMG doesn't deserve one after all the contravercy he has been part of

[mighty dagger]

your ideas are the reason why we dont like them

[raw swan]

What controversy?

[signal lance]

How do I say it here without getting warned...

You know what I'll just DM it

[raw swan]

I know? I think they’re good, that’s all, no need to be rude…

[raw swan]

Okay

[raw swan]

Not like SP will add them, I just think they’re cool ideas that could be nice additions, it’s never gonna happen, by now that channel is for mere ideas, not suggestions anymore sadly

[signal lance]

Even then its still good for people to explain why the idea isn't good

I mean scroll up and I literally went into detail why Legendary ML Era was literally the most unfun time to play the game. No shot f2P's even make it L1

[raw swan]

I looked, I still feel mythics ruined the current meta and game, but that’s just my opinion

[signal lance]

While opinions are good there has to be reasonable reasoning to them

[raw swan]

Not really, anyone is entitled to believe what they want

[torn apex]

and that reason is reasonable

[raw swan]

If someone started a random religion that believed that Mickey Mouse was real, it would be ridiculed but they’ll still be allowed to believe in it

[torn apex]

errrm

[torn apex]

or this

[torn apex]

and EVEN this

[raw swan]

Example here

Read this before trying to force a belief on someone

[signal lance]

Like we say, You are free to belive what you want, but we are also free to judge you for it

[raw swan]

Literally what I said

And I may have the right to defend what I want

[signal lance]

Eh, still your revert idea sucks

[raw swan]

Cool

Good for you

[signal lance]

No one wants to deal with the garbage of Legend era

[raw swan]

It’s not reverting either, it’s a different game, I’ve seen many people with my idea of loving the old version

[signal lance]

I don't think SP can legally do that actually but I'm not a lawyer and keeping ML 1.0 servers is expensive enough

[raw swan]

Why wouldn’t it be legal?

[signal lance]

Its honestly why you don't see Clash of Clans 2 or Clash Royale 2 since its financially draining to keep servers up

[signal lance]

Some wierd law or something, like I said I'm not a lawyer

[raw swan]

Also there’s no point in arguing at this since it would never happen

So you can keep going on, but I still will like the legend era

[dark iris]

What's the controversy?
I wanna know too

[torn apex]

uhhh its best you look for abra go video...

[dark iris]

Thanks but I already got the video

[karmic fable]

@vale prawn #bugs-reporting

Maybe your device is to old

Dunno, don´t recognise

@covert geyser might edit and remove the swearing

[covert geyser]

I mean im not wrong

[dark iris]

How does acoustics work in a mobile game??

[vale prawn]

What happens then? Can I get my account back?

[karmic fable]

If you have your acc linked with google or facebook then yes

otherwise prob no

[vale prawn]

Welp I’m never playing ML again

[dark iris]

Unironically the best winning move

[covert geyser]

Acoustic is the nice way of saying autistic

Also the way that won’t get me banned

[mighty dagger]

Better off not playing

[dark iris]

It actually isn't

[mighty dagger]

find another and better mobile game

[covert geyser]

Ye bro I’ve heard it so many times u probably just young or some

[dark iris]

Doubt it

[vale prawn]

Yep

[signal lance]

@vale prawn you can contact CS with the account info, as long as you have it linked to Facebook or Email

[vale prawn]

That’s the problems I don’t 😭

But would I be able to access it if I transferred all my devices data to another new device?

[signal lance]

Do you remember your IGN, In-game ID, and if possible a Screenshot of you owning the account?

Support can help and since it's the middle of the week that means they should be able to help quickly

[vale prawn]

Would a picture of my race points be proof that I own it?

@signal lance

[signal lance]

I'm not sure

It's best to contact CS and explain the issue with perhaps an SS of those race points

[signal lance]

Contact CS

[lime ice]

@vale prawn. Feedback is not for glitches or bugs 🤣

[flint stone]

@vale prawn place in bugs, not feedback channel.

[vale prawn]

K

[flint stone]

@sinful jackal please read the feedback channel description. You may rewrite your message then.

[karmic fable]

make a gamepass what gives you a legendary lvl 1000 with rank lvl 69

for 999usd

and make a pack what gives you every ascendts lvl 150 with 30 ascend habitas

[elfin acorn]

Anything to add onto the Monster i have submitted, i hope you like it? #monster-ideas

[stiff minnow]

damn

mb

@karmic fable nvm we cant

[signal lance]

Setting it to 130 will set any mythic to 150

[stiff minnow]

oh

[wanton orbit]

@elfin acorn for your most recent suggestion, I feel like it would only be a good addition if it were toggleable. If it were always on, then race teams would be greatly slowed (and it would be generally annoying)

[elfin acorn]

Sure.

[cobalt horizon]

Might want to read pinned messages on #submit-ideas about eggs going to storage.
Plus the rune guardian boosts gold production via gold runes.

[elfin acorn]

I just did. I'm so sorry, so that suggestion has already been submitted, and it has been rejected correct?

If i understood the pinned message correctly?

[cobalt horizon]

It means the suggestion has been submitted many, many, many times. So no need to keep suggesting same thing.
Whether any ideas will be implemented, I don't know.

[dark iris]

@stiff minnow you should read the pinned messages too

[stiff minnow]

its a suggestion tho

imagine having a r5 dracbite thinkin he'll carry in alarorc era saga or else cuz he's a barbarian

then find out he's not even in the book

[dark iris]

I know but it will be ignored

[stiff minnow]

it wasn't unexpected since sp don't care about its player

[dapper oyster]

@covert geyser great feedback, such informative

[covert geyser]

Ik

It was a little wordy

[dapper oyster]

you misspelled pointless

[covert geyser]

Huh

[dapper oyster]

provide some feedback that's actually worth providing

[covert geyser]

Calm down buckeroo

They don’t listen anyway

[wanton orbit]

They don't listen partially because of this stuff

[dapper oyster]

yea buckeroo

[mighty dagger]

that new feedback

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-scratch-like-thats-ever-gonna-happen-book-gif-16284864

[charred pagoda]

Shrek

[slim magnet]

New upcoming monster: Lord Shrek

[charred pagoda]

yes

[slim magnet]

@cobalt horizon

[mighty dagger]

what happening to the ban system

[mighty dagger]

if it aint broken dont fix it

[dapper oyster]

didn't ban enough DF players maybe

[mighty dagger]

darn

yeah they should fix it

put df on the ban list

[hollow nova]

self upvote moment

[wooden thunder]

custom skins would happen but i got a feeling its a really bad idea

I wouldn't say its bad but like

I can see so many issues already with submissions

also that can be use as p2w stuff idk

I just think yeah we need more skins but the power that people that can just make joke submission is already there and yeah no

[mighty dagger]

@lime ice im confused, does the feedback have something to do with this server’s or the game’s moderation for one person banned for doing something bad but the other gets a warning for the same thing?

[lime ice]

Its about banning in game

Someone was banned today because he used team description for verbally attacking another person
I understand this is bad but I reported a team who's lead did the same for at least 4 different times and although sp removed the remarks and maybe warned there were no bans
I think this is wrong either ban both perpetrators or dont but not ban one and dont ban the other

[wooden thunder]

like if they would listen to that

I mean knowing SP its really dumb how one person gets warned but one person gets banned

really inconsitince if you ask me

[lime ice]

Thats my point

[mighty dagger]

sounds like sp having some sort of favoritism that they might even go soft for the worst players breaking rules

[wooden thunder]

okay as much as i want to go into #general-feedback or #submit-ideas to remove both dream monster its not worth it

[wooden thunder]

^^^^

[mighty dagger]

even though the share account was like a dumb idea to remove imo

[lime ice]

Could be different reasons but that doesn't mean its right

[lime ice]

Its in tos
Again enforce the same for all or dont

[wooden thunder]

i mean if favoritism can be the reason but tbh i really don't know at this point

who won this years monster pick @mighty dagger in 2023

because i do not know who won

[mighty dagger]

i think its still going

[wooden thunder]

who the final 5????

[mighty dagger]

uhhh

[wooden thunder]

"man i hope barbatos doesn't rigged the #valentines-dating-gameshow again"

[mighty dagger]

these losers

[wooden thunder]

skykold would win this year please

[mighty dagger]

rigged cus i doubt anyone would vote for lancefloat and forge

[wooden thunder]

favoritism exist

so uhhh my bet is forge might win just because she madem but evil

oh yeah make sure albynassa wins this year to

wait no I hope the other 2 warmaster wins out of spite lol (its to late for it since there top 5)

[dark iris]

It's favoritism when there is money in the equation.
F2P player who doesn't matter = insta ban ❌
P2W player who spend every week = warn ✅

[lime ice]

In the case of the permanent ban for 2 that shared that wasnt the case, one of them spent a lot on the game on both accounts

[dark iris]

I was making an example of favoritism in mobile games.
I have no idea which accounts you are talking about

[lime ice]

The discussion about favoritisme started after my feedback

I wont mention names on mlo

[dark iris]

I know?
Like I just said, this example wasn't related to those accounts

[lime ice]

Ok

[raw swan]

She’s not evil?

[wooden thunder]

forge????

kinda??? (I didn't play saga)

[raw swan]

I would play saga, she is NOT evil, she is basically from another universe where Cometstorm killed Jestin and her elektra patrol, if you are talking about her being in the dark blades book, I assume the dark part is her past

[stiff minnow]

she just joined a alternate version of the dark blade without nishant

a dumber version of the current dark blades

[raw swan]

And where does it say that?

[stiff minnow]

played the saga and it look'd obvious

[raw swan]

What saga?

[stiff minnow]

Elektra patrol I

[raw swan]

I did play it

The elektra patrol and Jestin of her universe were destroyed by cometstorm, she became so upset she became a worse version of herself, in her lore, it also says she just now runs a museum iirc

[stiff minnow]

Yeah

but seeing the dark blade all silly

it looked obvious nishant wasn't their leader

[raw swan]

The reason I think she’s in dark blades is because of her “dark” past, lost voltaik, Jestin, and the patrol, but where do you see where she leads the blades, cause I don’t remember that

Ah, I just read her lore again, I see it now mb

[dapper oyster]

9 billionth unique idea suggestion of hatch guardian

lol

[slim magnet]

8 billionth*

I just counted it

[dapper oyster]

thanks

[slim magnet]

Np

[karmic fable]

People seem to get more creative over time and get out ideas nobody has ever thought of

[dapper oyster]

totally

and they start understanding sarcasm too

[slim magnet]

Would be even more creative if sp listened our feedback

[dapper oyster]

@gilded eagle in live duels, things that are generally chance based aren't random

[wooden thunder]

so true but they only care about dc 😔

[mighty dagger]

ayo i didnt even noticed that ._.

just as confusing as learnatta’s standing whilst holding the hammer

[torn apex]

can you explain

because i see his shield clipping in that model LOL

and is the 2nd about the saddle???

I just think the rig looks REALLY werid

[mighty dagger]

the left wing shouldnt be behind hackster, it should’ve cover hackster but somehow the designers placed the left wing on the right side

also what shield?

[torn apex]

this

[mighty dagger]

oh

[torn apex]

uhhh yeah thats what i mean by clipping

[mighty dagger]

ah

[torn apex]

from what I see

I think whatever they try to do in spine that is clipping thats for sure

and i'm also thinking that was desgin fault since yeah right wing should cover hackster

but I don't use spine so I do not know whats going on

[mighty dagger]

doesnt the armor also block the wings?

[torn apex]

i really am unsure

[mighty dagger]

im confused between how the wings are placed while the armor is added on the dragon

[torn apex]

uhhh

might be a layer stuff

[mighty dagger]

probably

but damn theres several flaws on this design

[torn apex]

so what i think is that they might put the wings in wrong layer

and that causes a clip LOL

[mighty dagger]

i dont know why they chose that dragon

isnt that the common fire dragon

i feel like there are many other dragons that can work for both armor and wing clips

without any issues

[torn apex]

yeah

i think its got to be the flame dragon

whatever is going on i think its clipping and that could be the reason

[dark iris]

Besides having buttwings I don't see any major flaw designs

[torn apex]

i do not know whats causeing the clip anyways

[charred pagoda]

It’s like dr hazard’s one foot

[sleek root]

@tacit leaf I had the same issue when i was a starter too, only way to counter it by upgrading your monsters

Also these type of players dont really know how to make a good defense team, they usually put random level 100 mythics with no runes or level 1 runes

So just try to upgrade your mythics to level 100 or beyond to counter them

[signal lance]

@wraith mountain I don't think you understand how long 5 minuest are for a cave run

Most cave runs last 10 mins because we actively decide on what to pick because of Avarita and without that deciding factor we would literally just spam every pot unless it had tickets and get ourseles a TON of resourcess for free

When used during the week end its basically a free ride to floor 60

[wraith mountain]

For slower ppl, its just right and u need like 4-6 mins to room 30

[wraith mountain]

Well u need the 100 gems to get a bottle (usually) and another 5 to continue at 7, might as well throw in the gems that u didn’t get in bonus rooms

Also, this is made for ppl that get caught at 3 or 4 very often, it’s just unfair that whales have a load of gems and continue like it’s nothing

So using 1 bottle changes a lot

[brittle briar]

Yeah but it’s just a guaranteed room 60 run for 100 gems

For 1000 gems you’re getting 10s of thousands of tickets, 10 level 12 runes and more

Seems a little op

[wraith mountain]

Well I alr made it so u can only use 1 per run , u will still get caught at 7, what else do I add?

[brittle briar]

What does once per run change

You’ll get an entire run with 1

[wraith mountain]

It’s made for floor 60 runs

Getting caught on 7 and looking for tickets is gonna slow u down

[brittle briar]

But you can just not

And going to 45 for the rune and r3 monster is definitely worth 100 gems always

[signal lance]

I don't think you understand how much value a lvl 12 rune and an R3 mon have

Heads up even if they are on discount their value is around 1,200 gems

Without discount.... You are looking at around 4,958 gems

You get all of these for 100 gems...

[signal lance]

So for around 110 gems I get, bare minimum, 1,090 gem value? That is a massive steal if you ask me

I would just spam the ever living hell out of that and essentially walk away with tens of thousands of Tickets

I would be able to R5 every Ancestor in the game if that was the case and as someone who spends money on the game that is literally the best value

[wraith mountain]

Well u can’t spam, there’s 20 bottles for max limit and u get 8 per month of y buy GLP

[signal lance]

And?

That isn't stoping me

8 essentially free runs a month? Buddy that is bare minimum 500 gems I save a month

[wraith mountain]

Either take free stuff or leave

What more nerfs do you want on that thing?

[raw swan]

What would gems even be spent on otherwise?

[signal lance]

Actually 500 is low balling it. That is me getting 1,700 gems worth of stuff for free

[signal lance]

You know inflation in real life? yeah that happens in games as well. With Kan's idea that deminishes the value of gems by an absurd amount like what would cost 45 gems now may literally cost 100 gems because of that idea

[raw swan]

It’s not a horrible idea, and with tweaks it could be made more reasonable, it’s just far too overpowered with your description of it atm

[wraith mountain]

Could be 200 gems per bottle

Then it’s more reasonable right?

[raw swan]

I’m saying what would they be used for, cave is typically the place where more gems are spent

[signal lance]

Like 8 FREE floor 20 runs and bare minimum I spend another 10/ 50 gems to get to floor 25/30 buddy I would drowning in rank up resourcess

[wraith mountain]

You won’t actually

Tbh the main attraction is the tickets

[signal lance]

I would R5 all my best mons with this idea

[raw swan]

So, so many extra gems would eventually be worthless with everything done

[signal lance]

Yet there is still a fine line between being good and broken

[raw swan]

Yes

[signal lance]

So Android players get the good stuff while apple players are forced to caugh up actual money?

As an android player I can spend 20$ on a task and walk away with around 3k gems... I'll let that sink in real quick

[wraith mountain]

As I said, free pass owners get 2 per month if u know what you’re doing

You can hold 20 at max

Or it could be 10 bottles max

[signal lance]

Your acting like the P2W aren't getting them as well

[raw swan]

I’m not saying it should be added in, just saying gems would be almost worthless with this

[signal lance]

That is also what I am saying

I am agreeing. The idea ruins the gem economy

[wraith mountain]

Ok what more nerfs do you want?

[signal lance]

It cost me 80 gems to remove a lvl 14 rune without discount and with this I can see myself paying 120 just for it

[wraith mountain]

It’s made to balance out the fact that the piece of garbage that is Avarita, is a stupid idiot that ruins ppl’s days

[signal lance]

There isn't one

You can't balance it at all without making it worthless or ruining the economy

Like Floor 20 runs are already a free 400 tickets if you are lucky

Floor 25-30 are more tickets and a free R3 mon

[raw swan]

Yes, but you have to realize, your idea is far too powerful for the game, anyone new can get to 27 and get r5 ancestors. Hell, even tickets could be useless once all ancestors are in cave

[wraith mountain]

I’ve gotten screwed by that piece of garbage too many times, it’s only fair that players like me get a chance with that item

[signal lance]

Like assuming you buy from the shop that is 8 free runs for 50$, not good value, now put that into the eyes of someone with Task and Surveys and buddy you may as well just hand them the R5

[signal lance]

Well thats just part of the game

[wraith mountain]

Oh so it’s fair when I get screwed and you don’t?

[signal lance]

Doing your idea is just the fastest way to kill an economy via inflation

[signal lance]

There is a fine line dude its not fair for everyone but you have to understand the implacations of what happens when you allow everyone to get to floor 20 for free

[wraith mountain]

Well what if it only can be used on the free run?

[signal lance]

That is still 8 free runs

So that is me paying 205 gems to get toi floor 20

[wraith mountain]

As said, it’s for the beginner players to grow faster and the unfortunate players to get a chance

[signal lance]

And as a Pass buyer that is 5 gems to get to floor 20

[raw swan]

It’s all luck, I’ve lost thousands of gems, but you just have to deal with it, even if it is insanely annoying when people say “oh could’ve gotten 13 runs with that” or “5 gem run”

[signal lance]

Still, The fine line is there. That idea steps over it and ruins the gem economy for everyone else

[wraith mountain]

What if I told u that my rates of getting screwed is 85%?

[raw swan]

It’s not, it’s RNG

[signal lance]

Fun fact. The human brain will always remember negative events more than positives

[wraith mountain]

Well explain how I get screwed A LOT?

5 days in a row, I got screwed by that garbage before 5

[signal lance]

Simple. Your brain just remembers you losing and not you winning

[wraith mountain]

Well I don’t even win most my time

[signal lance]

I've been on worse streaks and the best solution is just take a break from doing caves

[wraith mountain]

Well I need tickets

And I have no money

I really wanna jump the game, and beat the living days outta that piece of garbage

[signal lance]

So just wait?

[raw swan]

It requires time, not immunity

[wraith mountain]

Time= money

[raw swan]

We all do

[signal lance]

I mean I spend money and I R5 my Geneza in 4 days by waiting

[raw swan]

So use that time to do more meaningful stuff

And play in small increments

[wraith mountain]

Alr did

[signal lance]

I literally only do 2-3 runs a day and thats only if I actually need it

[wraith mountain]

Working on relics rn

[brittle briar]

Yap yap yap

It’s all luck

[dusky spear]

no what

its acc impossible to get that far

for new players

[raw swan]

Level 27? No it isn’t lol

[dusky spear]

i am a new player dude

yes it is

new players > lvl 45 have little to no gems

so this idea is great for new players

[raw swan]

No it isn’t, it’s far too overpowered, there’s no reason it should be implemented unless they ran a simulation of the game for fun

I got to 27 on my baby account within a week of inconsistent playing

And without doing too much adventure map

[brittle briar]

It’s no harder to get gems for a new player than a non new one

Unless you’re so new that you don’t have monsterwood of course

[digital shell]

It's easier for new players cos they get a time in monsterwood when there's only gems. When I first started I was getting 100 a day practically

[dusky spear]

bro

i alr got 22 gems

is it worth trying to do cave

tommorow

[digital shell]

Not with only 22

[raw swan]

You were lucky with tasks then, my baby accounts and current account had no such luck

[digital shell]

Not tasks, the ads

[dusky spear]

dude

you get like 3 gems

even that is rare

[digital shell]

Nope, on mine I got 1 per ad and could watch every 4 hours. All my friends had same ads at the beginning too

[raw swan]

The 20 gem one? I mean even if you watched those religiously, I highly doubt you would get 100 a day

[dusky spear]

yh

4hr cooldown

[digital shell]

I got around 20-30 per and watched every 3 hours

[dusky spear]

around 35 total

so youd have to wait 12hrs

for 105 gems

💀

[raw swan]

I did too, it really wasn’t that much tbh

[digital shell]

Yh, Im active lol. Just log on every 3 hours

[dusky spear]

nowaday youre not even guaranteed one gem from monsterwood

😭

[digital shell]

My friend still has the beginner ads for 30 gems per so it's still a thing

[raw swan]

That’s a little too active…

[dusky spear]

when i played i never got any

:P

[digital shell]

Logging in every 3 hours isn't rly too active

[dusky spear]

how many gems should i save be4 challenging monster cave

[digital shell]

Atleast 120

[dusky spear]

HUH

i am level 43.

[raw swan]

Yes, yes it is lmao

[dusky spear]

i have blossom, corruption and galactic monsters only.

[digital shell]

That's practically how often ppl log in for mazes lol, which i do while doing ads also

[dusky spear]

i am not gettin 120 gems

[digital shell]

U can get 30+ a month from dailies, then doing dungeons and the gold fever and such you get it easy

[raw swan]

Cause most people don’t have anything else to do, just saying, 1-2 log ons a day for a decent amount of time (15-30 mins each) is plenty for a day

[digital shell]

Meh, I like the game and I wanna get better sooner than later

[raw swan]

Well getting better takes time, a lot of people here don’t want to believe that

[digital shell]

I got L2 in PvP in 2 months and 40k MP so I think it doesn't rly need time anymore

[raw swan]

Alright, sounds good for you, if you want to spend the whole day on a game, that’s you

[digital shell]

I dont anymore, that was when I had the gem ads

[raw swan]

I log on a few minutes, maybe 2-3 times a day, some longer for big events, and I have around the same stats as you

[digital shell]

^ i do also now

[raw swan]

Also, why you quit pogo?

[digital shell]

Lost motivation, got more attached to scarlet atm lol

[wanton orbit]

I'd say cave is op atm. Being in the top 100 should be about skill and time playing, not luck and small "strategies"

And if luck is involved at all, everyone should get an equal chance and alternative f2p methods to get the same thing

[karmic fable]

BH chat is the equivelant of global chat

meaning it´s a bad idea

[mighty dagger]

@exotic cape pretty useless and bad idea

its just global chat except bh exclusive

[exotic cape]

no

[karmic fable]

yes

[mighty dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/emesis-blue-tf2-team-fortress2-falling-down-tf2engineer-gif-27606611

[gentle heath]

Sometimes you wish you could talk to them, but the reality is it would be a disaster in general.

[dusky spear]

who

??

[dusky spear]

?

[gentle heath]

I thought the discussion was around Bounty Hunt chat.

[dusky spear]

ohhh

okz

mind rating my monster idea out of 10?

[raw swan]

It’s very useful, if you don’t like it, don’t use it lmao

That applies to most ideas here, most dislike them for no reason even though they are good, if you don’t like them, JUST DON’T USE THEM, it’s so simple

[mighty dagger]

this feels like an equivalent of telling people that they should not judge a crappy disney movie because its for little kids

[dusky spear]

wha

[raw swan]

Disney isn’t crappy, the movies are literally directed towards a younger audience, adults just happen to watch them and not like them since they are accustomed to a different style of movies

[dusky spear]

TRU

SO REAL

[mighty dagger]

ok but

its still criticism

[dusky spear]

if you dont like it dont use it

simple

blaise jst said

[raw swan]

It’s not that simple, it’s not geared towards the audience we are, it’s towards younger kids, so we aren’t the ones fit to criticize it

[mighty dagger]

wasnt global chat removed because of toxicity

[dusky spear]

no i dont agree w that

[dusky spear]

we can still criticize

just that it doesnt really matter ; we arent the intended recipient

[mighty dagger]

and there were no rules applied to global chat when mlo does

[raw swan]

Yes, and while I agree it would be toxic, I also believe that it would be useful and ml isn’t going to add it anyways since they never listen, so it really doesn’t matter

[raw swan]

Yep

[dusky spear]

likewise, some parts of the game are just meant for players with different levels of progression

[mighty dagger]

its still a terrible idea because it’ll be another global chat in game

[raw swan]

Exactly, the runes guardian for example is really geared towards those higher leveled players, and the xp, gold, and food dungeons are geared towards the lower leveled players

[dusky spear]

under 13's can use it

clan chat is alr moderated

the global will also be

[raw swan]

How, it’d be useful, let’s just say it wasn’t going to be toxic, you could communicate with those in the lobby, and better coordinate attacks and stuff

[dusky spear]

its in the BH

not global

max 10 people communicating

[raw swan]

Ik

[dusky spear]

oh

wrong reply

my fault

[raw swan]

Exactly, little chance you’ll link with a toxic person, and if you do, move on, don’t look at that chat

[raw swan]

it’s okay

[dusky spear]

what do u rate my first monster idea? 🤔

#monster-ideas

[raw swan]

I saw it, now that I read the backstory, it seems like a cool idea

[dusky spear]

thx man

seems like a in game possibility right?

[raw swan]

I just feel like it’s unrealistic that k9 would turn bad, sure he was betrayed, but it was one monster, I think if it had a saga it could go back when the guy wasn’t there and when the defenders see his condition, they kick the guy out, and he goes bad

[dusky spear]

im gonna have another go tommorow-

[dusky spear]

his commander betrayed him

he was sabotaged

and thrown across a universe

and stayed there for decades

id turn bad too ngl

[raw swan]

Yes, but no one else participated, he was loved, I doubt he would be the bad one

[dusky spear]

hmm ok.

[raw swan]

I don’t disagree, just feel like him returning and the commander being caught, kicked, and punished and then going bad or going to the abominations would be more realistic

[dusky spear]

whats the next monster ill mythicise

[dusky spear]

OH

HE COULD DO THE SAME TO COMMANDER

AND BE CAUGHT

THEN KICKED OUT

[raw swan]

Eh, I just think voltaik could do a few attacks, and have him kicked and half dead

[dusky spear]

who SW4MP-9?

[raw swan]

Also since he is so prominent in the defenders I would think monsters would be looking for him while he’s gone

[raw swan]

Voltaik to the commander

[dusky spear]

the commander did it

he'd cover it up

"oh hes gone somewhere to help"

"oh he died on a mission"

[dusky spear]

hey but sw4mp-9 v voltaik would be sick

[raw swan]

I think voltaik would believe k9 imo, commander just has that unbelievable aura imo

[dusky spear]

(not me looking through monsterdex to find a legendary to mythicalise)

[dusky spear]

well K9 alr turned bad

he is a doggo after all

[raw swan]

I just don’t think he would go bad imo

[dusky spear]

omg.

im going to mythicalise the sentinel.

upgraded

and with so many terminator references its not even funny

[signal lance]

Global was removed because of how impossible it was to moderate...

[raw swan]

It’s 10 people at a time, don’t use it if someone is being toxic, report them, simple

[signal lance]

You say that like it's stopped people before?

In a much smaller circle, depending on who is in that circle, you will be bullied relentlessly for accidentally stealing a bag

It doesn't matter if there is a way to stop something when making a global chat. You need to actively prevent it from happening and let me tell you it's not easy

The fact people got away with calling each other Slurs, racist remarks, etc are the main reasons why everyone hates Global chat and SP has been very prominent on not adding it back in because it's an expensive and time consuming process

I mean look at Clash of Clans last I heard even they removed Global Chat and don't plan on adding it in anytime soon

The only times Global works is when you can actively moderate it and deal with the issue which is something most companies hilariously cannot do because of how expensive and time consuming it is to even program something that can filter EVERY swear word

[raw swan]

Bro went off for no reason lmao, and yes I think it would be more controlled, just don’t open chat until the next lobby

[signal lance]

So it doesn't solve the problem then...

You have a chat that is supposed to help with BH but not because of that issue it can become useless

[mighty dagger]

dude’s only solution is “don’t open chat”

[signal lance]

Which was brought up when Global was removed and that didn't stop SP now did it

[raw swan]

Yes, global was open at all times, bh would probably just reset every lobby, and they already have a censor system in place anyways

[mighty dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/lisa-ralphie-gif-18800083

[brittle briar]

What is this yappery

[mighty dagger]

about global chat in bh

[raw swan]

Thinks being offensive is gonna work😂

[spice breach]

@tacit leaf you don’t have to your own idea

[tacit leaf]

I did that just to make it easier to vote , thank you 😄

[wanton orbit]

@long sky but then they can't get money because there is no real incentive to get new monsters if the ones u got are better

Should that idea be put into play, then the moves would have to get better and better until the average move is "give 2 extra turns to self, applies pierce to itself, deals insane special damage to all enemies, removes pierce from itself
1 stamina needed, 0 cooldown"

In order to get money, the monsters have to get better and better

[charred pagoda]

Sounds like a repeat of the forsakens

[slim magnet]

@brittle briar wronf, your "Would especially help the higher level players that spend 40+ stamina per lobby" but its more like almost no change for high lvl players cause it still will be not a profits, and so still will only makes good for low lvl players

[brittle briar]

Willl still help those players as buying discounted stamina will always be better than non discounted

And gives them a chance to earn easier coins and profit

[mighty dagger]

@hybrid egret would it surprise you that sp has been killing their game since post doomsday

maybe even before mythics existed

[hybrid egret]

nope but each new blow adds, it was stable now, we managed to get some fun and where able to growth some

[lean kelp]

Bit confused on how you found CoA fun, but you do you

Y'all say you want to quit every new bad change that releases and yet you never do :plss:

Just grow a back bone, realise SP don't care about you or the game and quit

[paper cairn]

WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE DAILY RANK UP DUNGEONS SP!?!? FINAL ML HAD A SYSTEM THAT WORKED INCREDIBLY WELL, STOP CHANGING THE GAME!!!!

[mighty dagger]

W sp

[gentle heath]

Perhaps we hope to be heard and love the game we have played for years, again.

And CoA wasn’t “fun” per se, but it was making ranking up possible and that was enjoyable.

[wanton orbit]

CoA wasn't fun, but at least it was consistent

Every single time I even consider spending a cent on this game, they do stuff like this

Yesterday was the first time I considered spending money since when cave was in beta

[wooden thunder]

true....

only one day someone can only wish in a million years there another ML game but way better

by someone that isn't SP

[wanton orbit]

@oblique quiver I agree with the point, but not with the negativity. I do also agree with that, but that is not at all the way to make people change anything

[gentle heath]

Positivity hasn't seemed to cause any changes either, to be fair.

[wanton orbit]

With sp, maybe. I know other companies ignore ad hominems and only pay attention to constructive feedback

[gentle heath]

I only meant SP. One of my other games is very responsive to community feedback and have fixed many issues. Interesting to note that the feedback is almost always positive or neutral because people feel heard.

[wanton orbit]

Interesting thing, I find that the responsiveness of the developers correlates to the toxicity of a community. The most positive communities I'm in have developers who listen, while here is (on average) the one of, if not the most toxic I'm in

[gentle heath]

That is what I said. Though I suggested that the responsiveness drives the positive approach, not the other way around.

Anyway, they deserve it. They are destroying the game. I am angry and feeling pretty darn toxic today.

[wanton orbit]

I was talking about the community as a whole, not just the feedback

[wanton orbit]

True

[gentle heath]

gotcha

[flint stone]

@livid knoll

[livid knoll]

Say

[flint stone]

Why don’t you actually take a moment and write the message in feedback where someone can see what each problem is for you.

Rather than be disrespectful to employee/s.

Like why is new PVP not good for you?

[livid knoll]

Absolutly

[mighty dagger]

cmon this update aint too bad

[wanton orbit]

I kinda liked being able to just grind for 8 hours and then get Champ 1

(8 hours is an exaggeration, but I liked that the option was there)

[mighty dagger]

maybe this game wasnt that bad with its recent updates

[mighty dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-window-banging-yelling-screaming-gif-23360412

how #general-feedback be

and when they realized that sp hasnt been paying attention to the fanbase for years and they still think sp might listen to them

[wanton orbit]

just because something probably won't happen doesn't mean we can't try to change it

[mighty dagger]

they still havent made important fixes or good changes that can be done for weeks and when they add something new, they removed another thing

solution is to find another game that with a company that does listen to fanbase

like in phobies, yesterday a dev notified users about balancing their characters and admitted that its hard for them to balance and doesnt want to make new issues

ML on the other hand

[wooden thunder]

ML but reworked by someone else when...

[wooden thunder]

they to busy looking at DC and not care for this game anymore

shame this game is just now a baren wasteland...

[mighty dagger]

should start yapping in DC servers then

tell them to pay attention to ML

[wooden thunder]

i don't think thats how it works...

[wooden thunder]

real 😱 😟

[mighty dagger]

if it dont work in mlo and dco might

[wooden thunder]

idk if DCO is even going to work since I can't talk about ML stuff in DC

idk if they even have a offtopic

but i know they look into feedback in DC often vs ML

[mighty dagger]

maybe they should start complaining about ml stuff in dco maybe that can catch sp’s attention

[strong nest]

Make war with just legendary monsters (announce war with time to let players prepare their monsters)

[gentle heath]

Respectfully, I don't see the point. What could be useful is to have a "Legendary" Dungeon with good rewards...say 40-50 gems....oh wait...

[mighty dagger]

Solution to every ML problem

[wooden thunder]

true!!!!

[mighty dagger]

now you can stop yapping to sp and waste time typing random crap that they’re not gonna read

[raw swan]

You know he redownloaded that not even .1 seconds later lol

[mighty dagger]

idongetit

[mighty dagger]

jesus they dont know when to stop

[flint stone]

Sentri, it gets deleted as it’s meant to be your feedback.

[mighty dagger]

worth the shot

even tho #general-feedback is completely useless if we want leave feedback for sp

[slim magnet]

The real solution to fix is make me ml's owner

[mighty dagger]

anyone in this server would be a better ml owner

excluding players chat

[slim magnet]

And exluding dev🤣

[lime ice]

I see feedback is used for reporting bugs now 😂

[mighty dagger]

guess they cant see the #bugs-reporting

even i used the feedback channel to complain to the people here about how pointless #general-feedback is and how its better to deal with it or quit the game

until helen deleted it

[slim magnet]

@silent charm I tbh prefer chi or pandalf then example blackbarry

[silent charm]

May I ask why?

[cobalt horizon]

For me, useful for past books.

[charred pagoda]

Era sagas for them specifically

Aka more gems

[mighty dagger]

they dont know that they can get mythics at shops at discount

or gacha

[raw swan]

Not r3

[mighty dagger]

rank them

[raw swan]

Waste

[mighty dagger]

then dont get them

[raw swan]

Exactly

[mighty dagger]

then do treasure cave

[raw swan]

Waste

Atm

[mighty dagger]

then get current mythics at discount shop

[raw swan]

Monster or cell week ain’t until after race

[raw swan]

Also only goes up to abyssal atm

[mighty dagger]

save gems and develop patience

[raw swan]

I have 4,200 gems and a lot more patience than most people lol

[mighty dagger]

then do gacha

[raw swan]

Hell nah

[harsh sparrow]

i want blackberry

[raw swan]

I ain’t trying to be a weird 9yr old

[exotic cape]

PLEASE SP READ

IN RACE when someone does and OFA make a system where it in ml chat it give a notification "username did one for all" "username did dyp"

people sniping ofas is to aggrevating

[mighty dagger]

when will you realize sp hasnt read feedback for months to years

[exotic cape]

😔

[mighty dagger]

trust me you better off deleting the game and find something else

unless you can handle every bad update

[charred pagoda]

I’m already raging at another game cuz of bad pulls

[wooden thunder]

but but the other games make me go zzzz

[mighty dagger]

at least this has a more scrumptious barbatos

the funny part is that hes also a dev

[tired tide]

What do y'all think about item trading

*items including monster cells, eggs, habitats, tickets, materials, gems, food

[mighty dagger]

defeats the purpose of habitats, dungeons, lab and other shops that give you buildings or monsters

way too easy to get the stuff you need

defeats the point of slow progress

[wanton orbit]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mighty dagger]

also trading is like an overused idea and maybe not allow in #submit-ideas

oh wait more detail vaffle’s trading

at least thats more fair instead of just saying “add trading”

[cobalt horizon]

Read the pinned posts in that channel.

[wooden thunder]

thats just a card game

[mighty dagger]

at least it has devs that listen

[wooden thunder]

idk if there full designs...

[mighty dagger]

they do

[wooden thunder]

well where is it

[wooden thunder]

me waiting for that one roblox game to see if its true... (tale of tanrion or something)

[wooden thunder]

bro think its lobotary corp/ a project moon game

[mighty dagger]

what

idontgetit

[cobalt horizon]

How is this idea-feedback-discussion?

[signal lance]

@hearty venture 50-100 cells is a LOT my Ancestor standard....

Asuming you don't summon you would get an R5 Ancestor in like 38 days at when they give 50 and 19 days when they give 100....

To give an idea it takes 1,900 cells to R5 an Ancestor while a normal Mythic needs over 3k...

[signal lance]

Horrible. Its extremely difficult to ever add trading of this magnitude in any game without messing up the economy

Dragon City did it but even then it was only with orbs (cells in ML terms) and they required a TON of trust and trading essences that where difficult to get

[wooden thunder]

play project moon game trust

[wooden thunder]

well the economy isn't good in ML anyways

not like idk you would use them

[signal lance]

I don't think making it worse is a good idea

[wooden thunder]

atleast they can get p2w stuff for free...

[signal lance]

How exactly?

[wooden thunder]

trades

[signal lance]

Like I genuinly want someone to explain to me how trading big items like eggs can be any good to the economy? You also underestimate the greed of players with top monster eggs that will literally ask for HUGE things to get the item you want

[wooden thunder]

like...

any monster that bad nah

[signal lance]

Here is a littel thing. You know about the dreaded 1:1 ratio in trading? Guess what you have players asking for 15:3

Even more

[wooden thunder]

1:1 ratio???

[signal lance]

Trading is down right impossible to balance

[signal lance]

look at DC

Trading is nearly impossible to balance without breaking the economy in half

[brittle briar]

Yeah trading is stupid in ml

[signal lance]

If you think 24 gems to speed up hatching is expensive in DC it cost 48

[signal lance]

Explain to me who would trade their P2W mons away?

[wooden thunder]

mid and how they are bad

[signal lance]

Explain to me who in their right mind would spend 20, 50, or even 100$ and trade the mon away?

[signal lance]

You think thats enough of a reason?

I know players who R5 EVERYTHING

[wooden thunder]

I mean if you get something better

[signal lance]

A monster being mid is not a good reason

[wooden thunder]

then idk

[signal lance]

Its an excuse to get a stupid idea to work even remotely close to a balance state

[wooden thunder]

okay so why the pvp isn't as p2w because all the p2w monster are mid

and most of the old era mons haven't fell off

[signal lance]

PvP is a different monster entirely and why bring it up in a discussion about trading?

[wooden thunder]

you trade more better pvp mons

[signal lance]

No one is trading their PvP mons

No one, in their right mind, is trading their PvP mons as they double as war mons

[wooden thunder]

doesn't matter sp won't lisend to feedbacks anyways

[signal lance]

Even then I would appritiate you understanding why trading is a bad idea

Its been banned because their reasonings are never strong enough to out weigh the massive cons it would bring

If the current gem ecconomy is bad right now, expect it to be worse when trading is a thing

[wooden thunder]

and then we have #general-feedback but those don't even get checked

yet they say they will work on it

there so many pro and little con they will change it

to one thing and make it worse

[wooden thunder]

@signal lance ^^^^^

not like our feedback will be heard out loud anyways

[signal lance]

Dude, I know this already

There is literally no point in pinging me multiple times

I made my point about why trading is bad and you couldn't even make a point on why its good

I already know this game is garbage compared to what it once was there is no reason to ping me for things I already know

[slim magnet]

@hearty venture Bro 50 cells is too much

[hearty venture]

10 cells

._.

[mighty dagger]

Bro thats too much

[hearty venture]

1 cell

not 5 but 1 cell

💀

[mighty dagger]

[signal lance]

You I would really like the people who say that trading is good to give me the possible way on how it doesn't break the economy without listing an overly complicated way that would be too much work to even bother

[hollow nova]

me when i'm trying to hit the word limit

[signal lance]

The word limit won't even be enough to describe the complicated steps to make it even remotely balance

[raw swan]

Honestly, he gets upset way too easily and talks way too much and angrily about every idea here lol

[wanton orbit]

What about the file size limit?

[signal lance]

That too

[signal lance]

No I dont

[raw swan]

Imo with the rants I’ve seen, I don’t think I believe that

[signal lance]

Nah, those rants primarely are made to give a point why something is a bad idea

Even I know SP won't listen but its always good to tell people why certain things just can't happen when they start playing good games

[wanton orbit]

So a 50 megabyte text file isn't enough?

[signal lance]

Who knows

[wanton orbit]

That's like a medium sized book

[signal lance]

Huh, Ok thats actually a funny comparisment since I did not know that

[charred pagoda]

[mighty dagger]

@thick thunder did you just realize that sp has been killing their game for years

the dungeon change is just another add on of bad changes

[lime ice]

@wispy oracle Confused where #bugs-reporting is or contact support prob even better

[wispy oracle]

oops. thankyou

[cobalt horizon]

Codes back? @chrome cloak
There hasn't ever been codes.

[chrome cloak]

Add codes 🙏

[cobalt horizon]

We get links for free gifts occasionally, rather than using codes in-game. What would be the difference?

[chrome cloak]

Codes are easier

250 gem code 🙏🙏

[brittle briar]

The links never work

They just take me to the App Store

[cobalt horizon]

Did the last link not work? Using the embedded version directly from YouTube usually fixes that.

[wanton orbit]

The links work for me

[brittle briar]

Idk

[mighty dagger]

@hollow nova those problems would be maybe fixed in the next 6 years or never

[thick thunder]

what links?

[nimble arch]

[raw swan]

Had to delete and reinstall to get the rewards

[cobalt horizon]

@silent charm please edit your feedback post to remove swearing, thank you.

[silent charm]

May I change it to crap? @cobalt horizon

[cobalt horizon]

Yes, that is allowed.

[silent charm]

Ah ok great 👍

[cobalt horizon]

@drowsy summit here to discuss feedback, not reply in the channel. Thanks

[drowsy summit]

Sorry

[cobalt horizon]

Thanks

[brittle briar]

@covert oriole controlling our monsters would completely defeat the purpose and take the fun out of bh

[raw swan]

It isn’t even fun if you don’t got good monsters

[charred pagoda]

It’d be more like titan evasion as far as I can tell

[wooden thunder]

whatever not controlling our monsters in bounty hunt would be better then ai failing to to max damage only to self support

[brittle briar]

No

[raw swan]

@wooden thunder Absolutely no point in removing Warmonster dungeons, they bother no one, and are a fun thing to do

[thick thunder]

fr

[brittle briar]

Warminster

[wooden thunder]

I mean its outdated so errm

also they are outclassed

[raw swan]

Doesn’t mean they have to be removed, it’s a fun challenge tbh

[raw swan]

Lmao, my bad, misspelled it

[brittle briar]

Warmonster

[wooden thunder]

not fun if the mythic one shots them anyways

[raw swan]

It’s mainly for collecting, and they can do good against a lot of old mythics, not only that, it’s a very hard thing especially nowadays to r5. Also it’s not really supposed to be for fighting, not everything is about fighting, sure it’s the main part, but there’s are breeding, collecting, and building up everything

[wanton orbit]

@chrome cloak but then people could just join and leave pvp until they see a defense they can beat. It defeats much of the point of pvp

[mighty dagger]

I think he’s just tired of losing trophies and finding teams he cant beat

[chrome cloak]

No just its kinda annoying for people who have level 100 mythicals to every single battle fight against atleast one max level ancestor

[signal lance]

You know that is just the legendary PvP system with extra steps right?

They changed it to what it is today because people could legit pick and choose what they went up against and could make teams to counter those in a heart beat. The reason why they changed it was because defense was literally more useless than now with people winning something like 80% of their battles

That 80% is just an iirc btw... The % could be much higher

[chrome cloak]

Make it so you can change your pvp team once every 24 hours

[raw swan]

Just get better monsters, it’s the best thing you can do

It’s not simple, but it’s what you can do

[chrome cloak]

The only way to get better monsters is either buying them, breeding them, and getting them through summons, and for about 2/3 of those options are based 100% on luck

Prob another way but idk

[raw swan]

And cave, like I said, not simple, but you just have to do it

And summons

And maze

[chrome cloak]

I just said that

[raw swan]

Didn’t see it

[chrome cloak]

There's no skill involved in cave, it's 105% luck

[raw swan]

Did I say there was?

It is luck

[chrome cloak]

So no I'm not gonna waste 500 gems just go get 500k gold and 3 mythical cells

[raw swan]

Which is why I’m saying it’s not as simple as saying to get better monsters

[raw swan]

No, 500 gems should get you around a few good runs

[chrome cloak]

I have better monsters, the only way to get ancestors is through conjur

[raw swan]

So cave?

[raw swan]

Like?

[chrome cloak]

What do you mean by better monsters?

Because I have good monsters

[raw swan]

You just said you have better monsters

Show me

[chrome cloak]

Better than what?

Better than ancestor? No

[raw swan]

I don’t know, you tell me

[chrome cloak]

Better than most mythics? Maybe

[raw swan]

That’s what you said

I’m asking what monsters these are

[chrome cloak]

I use dharrman cameraman, coryxkenshin, and kemoni

All r2 or better

Actually kemoni is r4

About to be r5

[raw swan]

I think you should incorporate a support

[chrome cloak]

All my support are stamina regen

[raw swan]

Also, I would save up glitch for bh if possible

[raw swan]

Who are your support?

[chrome cloak]

I don't use them, but I have mighty thetys and akithron

[raw swan]

Well those aren’t good, you got any gems?

[chrome cloak]

Support is mid bc if all my monsters die they can't do anything

[raw swan]

No they aren’t, they can revive, heal, give damage boosts, there is no reason to have two attackers with no support

[chrome cloak]

I had, but I wasted them all on treasure cave to get: 6 gems, 20 random mythical cells, 600k gold, and 30k food, yeah, that's exactly what 150 gems gets you in treasure cave

[chrome cloak]

I mean stamina support

I don't have or know ANY regen monsters

[raw swan]

You just got bad luck, nothing else

[raw swan]

Well if that’s all they do, they yes they’re useless, since that’s what relics do

[raw swan]

Uriel is the top one that comes to mind

[chrome cloak]

Blud if your only purpose is to diss me then don't waste your time.

[raw swan]

Not dissing you, trying to help, but tbf you did diss me

So I’m being a bit harsher than usual, but my intention is to help

[chrome cloak]

Wow let me guess, you can only get Uriel through 0.000017% luck in conjur?

[raw swan]

No

He’s not in conjuring

[chrome cloak]

Bounty hunt?

Marathon?

Money?

Any other thing I can't do?

[raw swan]

You could go for chests for doomsday chests to hopefully get him, cell week, monster week, cave, all of which are f2p

[chrome cloak]

Another thing based on luck

I could try as hard as I can

And it all falls down to luck

[raw swan]

Negative thoughts must cloud your mind, if you just had a more positive outlook, it could be a bit better

[raw swan]

Most of this game is luck, nothing we can do about it

Saving gems is completely up to you for cell week

[chrome cloak]

Wow I can't wait to spend the next 48 hours grinding on monster legends just to get 3 uriel cells! 😁

[raw swan]

No

You get 20 per purchase in cell week

Just save gems and ensure you can r3 him

With ambrosia, probably from coa

[raw swan]

And that’s not what I meant, I mean, try to go in with a positive mind, negativity does nothing to help, sure at some points it is warranted, but a lot of times, just thinking in a good way can help

[raw swan]

Monster legends isn’t a good game by any means, it is selfish, and I understand that, but what you have to realize is that is how they made it, it’s unfair, but you have to ask yourself, are you willing to play? Try to have fun? It doesn’t have to all be stressful, it is in the end of it, a game, pixels on our screen.

[wanton orbit]

@raw swan as i understand it, the era sagas are only for monsters who are major figures in the lore, and who participate in whatever wars. They haven't made era sagas for the characters who aren't major monsters in the lore, simply because there isn't much to add (this is a guess)

[raw swan]

I understand that, it just feels like there is so much that can be added, like albynassa is supposed to be good with the summitfolk, and other little tidbits, I think it would be cool to see more info on stuff like that

[wanton orbit]

Fair enough

[fresh roost]

@chrome cloak there is

You just need a specific amount of habitats

[cobalt horizon]

Habitats show gold icon when 25%+ full

[raw swan]

@thick thunder I think they make it so low to drive you away from being tempted to sell it

But an increase would be nice

[chrome cloak]

That's extremely annoying

My 29 habitats

[raw swan]

I love when people rant in submit ideas like it’ll do anything, it’s honestly hilarious