#ideas-feedback-discussion
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It's the "bloody listen" that cracked me up 😅
Only that part. 🤔
Well, the whole thing was a good laugh, but that awkward... threat? Was the best
@small tangle I have Dmed you.
I had to remove it, you need to re-word it.
Feedback is great, I look forward to seeing it edited.
Threat?

Also, if the workers of would listen, we wouldnt have to write rude feedback
They literally dont do anything with our feedback
You do realise you don't have to write rude feedback
That's entirely your choice
Nobody's forcing you to do it
Better yet, if you actually lay out what's bad, why it's bad, and how it can be improved I've got a big feeling that it will be better heard
Plus maybe the "workers" do listen
Just yk, not the right ones
Not everyone who has employment with sp has control over the games direction and stuff
I've seen like 100s of good, not "rude" feedback, why didnt they listen to it then?
Literally saw so many good feedbacks and nothing has been changed yet.
I've read so many feedbacks that have done that too
🤷♀️
I'm just waiting til new era now.
Im hoping that they'll change some things
Yea
Regarding this name change stuff I feel its 99% a bug
Concerning that nothing has been said for 3 hours at it tho
Funny how they fix bugs that benefit us (Voltaik redeemed bug) in 1-2h hours and other ones need longer
We don’t know what way the game may go, we have to wait to see what is coming, happening next, etc. if feedback is from you, that’s great, but just make sure it’s constructive and not insulting. Constructive feedback will be seen and so that is the best way of doing it.
We do know the way the game goes rn, its going downhill, and everyone knows that
If they dont fix/make things better its only going more and more downhill
You need to write that it’s your opinion.
I mean loads of feedback about rusd has been made and that hasn't changed so 
Yes, but we can know that it’s been read.
Just because I wish this or that for the game, doesn’t mean it will come to light.
I try. And then I wait.
I already wrote it a few times and really dont care anymore at this point
Oh yes. Good call.
Its not an idea. Its a legal breach of personal data of players. Take it as you will. Its serious matter. And I dont want to discuss it, I just dont want it to become a side matter, because its serious and infringing our rights. Contact sp support to have it fixed if it happened to you. I cant understand the relaxed manner you all take it. Ant this last sentence is not an idea, its honest feedback. If it goes yto the EDPO, sp is done for. If you dont know what the EDPO is, lol.
And one the side note, cause I furious, I posted twice. Seriously. Cluttering the channel. Where. Im done. I will post twice here 2. Like in a month, as I do. If i clutter I apologize.
Its not about it being an idea or feedback
It's more that #general-feedback isn't used for conversation, that's why this channel exists
Thanks for your explanation., isabelle, see I post 3 times. Kindeness goes a long way.
If you look, it’s in Bugs Reporting. That’s where it was answered.
That’s all wanted you to know.
It’s horrible that it happened.
Indeed

@karmic fable Theres no need for another Gems dungeon
Both Easy and Legendary already holds a load of gems between Monday to Thursday.
75 gems, even in two weeks is a lot, it would make gem collecting more easier than only Easy and Legendary Gem Dungeons
I don’t know why you even came up with that idea of getting more gems than ever.
I was asleep just now-, but maybe like there can be some drawbacks within the two weeks? But if not I understand and goodnight XD
Bruh.
Its better off not to even have a “Mythic Gem Dungeon” and thats your only excuse about this.
Bro, I just said I would understand no need to get all you know passive-agressive (:P)
Now goodnight!
why are both existence and catsume's feedbacks removed but the pupil's "feedback" isn't 
Why isn’t yours :trol:
would be quite funny if it did
then I'd have another reason to write a feedback
It was explained in that channel.
Not even sure if I want to rewrite my feedback
No point if it will just get ignored
Or deleted 
So you can like something for no reason but you can't hate it for no reason?
woe me feedback
time to see how long mine would last
nah yours will last, I'm just seeing how Papichulo's lasting as well
what do the mods like him that they considered not to remove his feedback
like Rahrah being a leech back then until he got muted and left/banned
@bronze flicker wym
by not having enough time to complete dungeon
oh wait i didn't realise the timed rewards expired earlier in the cthulhu dungeon
mb
The sage dungeons have extra rewards, gems and such, that can only be obtained in the next 6 days. Then they disappear. Those of us with the new pass won’t have the monster in time
mm I sure love worse implications within SP's questionable changes
Stupid server
@plush basin I want context please
Kenecro was free and easy to obtain
Why remove paid options just because a monster was offered through a book?
Plus a book like that hasn't happened since him
What monsters were in his book sorry but i thought i saw glp monsters but i might be mistaken
No, it was all free
It’s really sad honestly, because it’s a great game, but it’s ruined by such a moneyhungry company that does nothing but ignore players
Spent over $250 on this game
Free pass, pvp, Bounty hunt, maze, race, and tales
I’m allowed to be disappointed and criticize them
I mean Meow has made it clear today on what feedback she needs to hear
Sure criticise but explain why you're criticising
But maze and tales r so hard
No they aren't
If you don't know how to do them sure they are
But it's so easy to learn how
Oh I explained why
And then it got deleted with no explanation
LOL
Not worth my time
Well yes ofc it will
I haven’t deleted any today. Just so you know.
I will be monitoring over the weekend and I will inform those when I do have to ask them to re-write, or word it different, or add reasoning.
Just like the description in the feedback channel states.
Constructive criticism is fine. Followed by the reasoning behind it.
Let’s all see how it goes.
I still don't see why papichulo's feedback is still there
^
saying they're deleting feedback because it's "not actual feedback" is clearly a cover up
Explaining why didn't really help either in the past 🤡
exactly
Im so mad
I am f2p i got the new legends pass and i cant breed voltaik redeemed
I dont have ultrabot
But i have urtikis
Ngl, the idea of the new pass was a good one. If they offered the regular $20 pass with the same rewards it has always had, but also offered a $10 pass with the r0 monster and lower rewards (instead of having the $20 and the $50) it would probably be beneficial to many players. But it also shouldn’t affect the free path in the pass at all. There was no reason to make any changes to the free part, especially not removing the monster🙄
🤡
this server is a circus
fr
its like Rahrah
Rahrah acts like a leech to the server, doesn’t get banned regarding his actions (tho muted) while others get banned for other reasons (spam memes, disrespecting)

he did got banned or left recently
And positive feedback doesnt need any reasoning or what?
sometimes i find mods questionable when it comes to feedbacks :MeShrug:
fr
As I said. I haven’t deleted anything there today.
then why keep that feedback in
Exactly
They ruined glp AND rusd near the time of october and november.
What a "great" present
what
Its just everyones suggesting sp to remove glp and rusd
Let's see how the Ancestors are gonna be
We don't need to see after reading the article in #announcements
pretty much
@solid mason dont make feedback on leaks
but good point
imagine devs complaining about our feedbacks and do nothing else
Why are people still making feedbacks on leaks 🥹
because they are kinda important over new mons to see if they good or not
Making feedback on leaks isn't important
or like why would we need a new type
Making feedback on leaks is not appropriate at all bc it's not confirmed or released by sp
Always subject to delay, change or cancellation
Stick to what's actually there rather than stuff sp didn't say just yet
but yeah why won't you tell the CM to like lisen
since i seen the person saying yeah they get worser
i mean sure its nothing but like isn't CM ment to do CM stuff
Its not my job to say "Hey Meow listen to that feedback"
i mean the isuess is that they are not
this explains why
Why do you think the new era brings such a massive wave of new content
bad changes
What's bad about this one
And why is it bad
A new rarity is dubious and scary because it does not hold much potential for free to play players, relying on rng to get monsters
you just explain the reason
new rarity means something
How do we improve it? Offer Seasonal summon tickets in daily calendar or in more events ie Viktor's Patrons or Bounty Hunt shop
Means what
Don't be guilty of being as vague as the announcement
then again this proves my point @clear stump
Then what's the issue
Do exactly as meow said
Say you hate X or Y sure but explain why, and even better how you can improve
i can pull up the explaination of L pass also
and they dose most monster sucks
or rusd
idk the CM feels like they don't read it properly
Assume as you wish
Are you playing on PC?
Because I also didn't get the good pass but at least got enough back up cells from MW to craft it as plan B.
(which is still unfair because others got them as well to rank him up instead of crafting)
No not pc but some people got randomly chosen to get the terrible version.
Sadly i dont have backup cells for voltaik redeemed

im also play in pc 
So that would mean we should stop asking for rusd change because "not all changes can be implemented" and then move on in life?
Hmm I see
I don't get it to be honest
The adamant negative about fixing RUSD along with the new ancestors rarity that can't be ranked up using corallia (only their own cells) is the final nail in the coffin for any and all RUSD
Just like legendaries won't get any RUSD, all myths will be obsolete in 2023
But I would assume its been discussed by now
After all its quite literally been 11 weeks or so since the bad rusd change
Corvallis being only for abyssal makes sense to me
Well that means that I ain't comin back and more people will quit as time passes.
Sp is doing a good job digging it's own grave 🤡
But not having a joke resource for new rarity doesn't make sense to me
That's your choice and I respect it
W
Nah it's basic human decency. :keek:
Their are digging their grave by turning full P2W (gradually).
Not by making a new generation and killing the previous one like it happened before after forsakens
Honestly I'm watching and waiting to see what happens- the faction buffs synergy thing is interesting to me
As well as potentially form changing?
TWD collaboration was a test and all whales passed
If y'all are gonna spend $280 per mons there's no need to hand over free joker resources to rank up your free monsters then
I still don’t understand this faction thing
I don't really either know what they do but tbh we as players don't really have anything to be mad about once the game dies (maybe p2w players will be mad), sp will be hurt the most
Think of the books used in era sagas
They're the faction books
Also yeah TWD crossover was a joke
So the books are all in other factions?
Wym
I'm F2P too and will stay just a bit longer to watch the whole place burn 🍿
It's not that all books are factions
All faction had their own book
Ie fury dojo, elektra revenge squad, star sailors etcetc
Chad 
Do you know how warmasters (an other handful of monsters) share their trait among their team?
It will be sorta like that, using specific abissal mons will help them to hit harder/faster or so
These are all factions
(It's funny because not all WMs have area traits)
I see
Same same
Does Wielders and Zoomorph count
Idk if they do
We can't know
They only mentioned abyssal
They should really put those in war restrictions
Abyssal is an era not a faction I think... 😂
So the only books that count for fractions are the ones used in era sagas?
i remember when wars had these 
Or something like that
I believe so
We will have new books for sure, we just gotta wait and see
It was only a few months back, a lot of players will remember it lmao
imagine they continue on with that, then a Rocky Peak book is required and all you have is a Metalsaur
Tell me smth then,
Why do they rather bring out something new, which is hated by basically the whole community, then rather fix the things the community doesnt like/find appropriate

What's hated by "basically the whole community"?
I mean nobody knows besides the community managers and developers etc
The rusd
The lack of communication
The lack of fulfilling promises
I could list more things
Rusd they never said they'd change and I am concerned about it too
Lack of communication and transparency in particular has been an issue for years
Lack of fulfilling promises wdym
remember the auto ban at ambisonic's race
They did a survey but never mentioned afterwards
^
They wanted to get us hyped up and not stop playing the game 🧍♂️
They said in #announcements that they will read the feedbacks, but barely does anything good, only recent thing was new adventure map islands
Yyyeah when did they say that it was 100% gonna be implemented
Dragon city did a survey on nfts no? Look where that went
Which were suggested as forbidden ideas that weren’t allowed in #submit-ideas or #general-feedback
Hold up what
They held a long survey within last 12month about it lol
It was when I played dc so prob a year ago or so
Good luck getting 9k cells through that
I'll rather play r5 mythics than r2 ancestrals
With money it'll be possible sure 🙃
Year 3: still no cell converter
Paying a salary for a r5 ancestral
Nice
Good deal ofc
With the best rng?
Best rng is getting 90 eggs through 90 pulls
Which is basically impossible
Yeah my bad
7.2k tickets for that
Which is what, 240?
So itll cost a few bucks ig
Usd
Lol
Probably like 150-180 if u do all the events
So yeah
You have to have perfect rng + 150+ bucks
Nice 👌
It's the same as one TWD monster but 10% off
I would rather spend my 150 on something else every month, something that could benefit me, not on games 💀
Then do that lmao
10% off with perfect rng yes
You need 1000 pulls for 1 monster with average rng😂
So 90k pulls for an r5 it is
Getting a monster which will be overpowered in 2 months 🤔 or buying 2 copies of pokemon games??
Decisions decisions. Let's keep it ml
Watch out you might get banned for hate speech🤡
😂
Kingi moment.
The GLP it's like a subscription fee but making you buy tickets to pull exclusive monster more expensive than whole full games (or as high as a new console) it's ridiculously bad
ML has become the very same thing that used to make them different from all the other mobile games, a giant money trap.
They exploit people with gambling problems and also push advertisements on every opportunity, it doesn't look like ML anymore
ml is just another garbage overpriced p2w gacha game now
false
No, true, trust
because what he says it taken as facts
so idk why the CM see the issue yet
Do you think the cm is the person who controls all things that happen in the game?
yes because they part of dev contact
other wise whats the point of CM if they can't reach out to devs
Just because "dev" doesn't mean they control the entire game lol
Each dev has a role in the company and there is a hierarchy
Not every dev does coding
Not every dev does art
And minimal devs control the game direction
and its a bad thing because they not doing what the people are begging them to do
Do you think each dev controls the game direction
I mean they do whatever their boss tells them to do
^^
no way
and if their boss wants to make ml into a gacha game then so be it
It's not like a brand new coding intern can tell the owner of tti to make monster legends f2p friendly
besides, who's really quitting here, the omega p2w players?
yes

because ML turn bad over bad direction
there are loads of people who still spend in ml so why would they care about the f2p players?
Whats wrong with a "kingi moment"?
I literally only play bc community and collection
I haven't done a maze since kenecro lmao
Everything
Yeah ofc
Yeye
I did Uksagon maze for the funny
I didnt
still have yet to ever use him 
Speaking truth in this server is wrong fr
Seeing negative feedback with no reasoning being removed and positive feedback without reasoning is still not deleted
😹
@clear stump whats the matter you don't want to come back this dude???

And don't call me ignorant just bc I have a different point of view jeez
i mean you to scare to do so?
Do you think I can delete feedback channel messages
If I could, I would've, let's put it that way 🙂
i mean your a mod
No I am not
you can give people Muted though 
My name isn't orange, my roles dont say mod 😄
My permissions are very limited compared to a keeper
wait dosen't black role give you mod perms?
ideas deparment dosen't give you mod perms??? 🤯
I mean you can try to get mod just to delete that one feedback and then resign
Tyra and I are both just server volunteers with extra permissions for this channel, and the one above and below.
That's what ideas department is.
not resign but be mod here and like some how make it better?
Mods don't really have perms either ig
Just some server perms but nothing to do with sp
they do what?
Their job is to keep the server friendly and ban people if they are misbehaving
I think on this one SP's CMs have taken over what feedback remains or not
As Helen said multiple times she hasn't deleted any feedback today
I don't know about mama but ye
New era
possibly Meowtwo :MeShrug:
they should remove some just to be sure
and not keep some stuff that don't do much
wdym remove some
Ml after them devs give me cm:
📈📈📈
kingi moment
😂
Devs don’t give CM, you have to be employee.

hi @clear stump , I posted some feed back in general feedback but it's not going through, any particular reason?
oh nevermind, appears CMs have decided
Can you send it to me in private please? I will see if I can help there.
on it
Good good
if its me youre waiting for, you might be a while 💀
What's the cooldown in feedback now?
its over
but
im not done writing part 2 💀
and there might be a part 3
is that considered chat flood?
Not necessarily
I'd write it ASAP and clear with mods how many parts
My opinion would be, wait 12h apart and use Reply function to connect to your last feedback?
To create a thread of sorts. Maybe it'll be for the best. I don't know.
is is
pasting mine is Goog docs
dang
bot ate my feedback
💀
abysmal era is probably gonna sum it up
think thatll be it for now
there will be more tho

wonder how much hate ill get for including the bit about R Volt
you told the truth though
devs be like
"write meaningful feedback, not just saying u hate it or like it"
existence writes entire paragrapgh
pretends not to see it 🗿
You do realise Devs won't be online on here at 00:36 their time
Its not them pretending... it's more they are literally online in a professional capacity
posted my final part of my feedback but deleted it again
will post in a few hours, didnt see Cava's feedback above mine until a minute ago and dont want to flood his out
They want to have detailed feedbacks to not do anything again
@valid trail can we get a bit of context on that please?
What's broken about it? System matches you based on trophy proximity not monster level
As a low level player , my lvl40 monsters usually get 100+ mythics as opponents
In bronze league
I prefer to bring back the ability to choose your opponent like they did back in the days
For specific leagues (gold and below
What do u guys think ?
Doubt anyone would like that
i think they should give out the latest mythic monster for free any time new one releases✅ 😎
What
🫥
Why is this feedback still not deleted?
Negative feedbacks with no reasoning get deleted but positive feedbacks without reasoning dont get deleted
Hypocrisy.
that belongs in #ideas-feedback-discussion too
man I'd make a super long feedback detailing the main things I disliked about this era
but I realize it's not worth my time
Ah yes the custom pfp/icons thats totally not going to be tons of issues with it
just imagine its be a nightmare
this dude just helpin ml players quit the game once they see that pfp
The amount of downsides that idea has far out shines what it actually intended for
nah
The amount of pfp that have nothing but inappropriate images, propaganda, and even Slurs would be tremendous
This
please don't ask for custom pfp there a reason why there no custom pfp
too bad he got no brain power to understand that 😔
truly a pity being a pupil
true
i did nothing to offend you
It's MLO
I just did it cus ranting is fun 💀
Oh God.
Fortnite profile pictures in ML.
My spine is cringing out of my body just imagining that.
This
@thin totem Imagine having skill issue that you HAD to make that feedback 
skill issue moment
Cold Blood
wasn't using Kencero 😭😭
Daryl and grynde
don't have 🗣🔥🔥
l bozo got muted 🤓
I actually think stat jumps are a good thing, especially for next era
Meta was getting very stale
Life buff should hopefully kill off Pierce finally
And the stats make up for the fact they wont have any talents 
But it seems a little much

just like legendary to mythic
If they didnt have the stat jump we would have ppl complaining again that "All the monsters were bad this era, release better monsters" like with Galactic and we'd still have the same meta with the same 8 good monsters 
"Release better monsters, the meta is stale, Pierce is boring"
SP: releases better monsters
"Noooo my monsters are now useless, why would you do that"
I'm not saying a power boost wasn't needed. I'm just surprised by the fact that the HP has almost doubled and that the average speed has gone up by 2k
Seeing how these are the first monsters in the era the average of abyssal mythics will go up the longer the era lasts
Reminds me of jump between legends and mythics. I deleted the game at the time, just like, years getting monsters, then 1 day, they all useless. Plan for lots of spots in the vault lol. It will reshuffle everything. Not saying bad, I reinstalled the game after all. But will be lots of work. Hope you didnt spend much money on monsters before, cause poof, all gone
Perosnally, i dislike the new stat jump, first Cosmic’s stat jump made OG Mythics and Legendaries more irrelevant, then Metro outdating Cosmic and Corrupted now a possibility of killing off Dooms and Blossoms from a huge stat jump later in the future

ver tru
Thers a difference better a monster you can use for nothing and a monster killing everything so years of hard work goes to the bin. I think ppl thought give me new uriel or stuff, not let me get back to square one. I still say I dont care so far, Im f2p so whatever. Every change has its peaks and pits. But I understand ppl can honestly discuss honest unease about it and I, for one, respect it. Im excited still to see how it unfolds.
then again this meta is like 99% pierce meta and like even if the 2 era had jump boost the other are like to good for 1 reason or another
thats pretty much saying something if the same monster are still up
vali is 🗣️ 📠
@lyric coral its hilarious that some feedbacks with good reasoning get deleted for “hate speech” but kept stupid ones like this
or Rip_PapiChulo’s feedback which isn’t deleted
I didn’t even say anything bad
Also got no notice on why it was deleted or that it was deleted
Could be that it was deleted cause I said I feel bad for the people that work for SP
But I don’t see that violating the rules either
I truly feel bad
They have to execute this terrible changes as it’s their job knowing we will hate it 🤷♀️
wow
i often imagine that, knowing that we dislike their company but the workers can’t do anything about it while making bad changes to ml
I also have to do things at my job which I do not like so much but it doesn’t make 100.000 people sad 😂 so small burden to carry for me
i hate school 
I never saw a game where the community hated the developer that much
i’ve seen others
Maybe the people here are just that toxic but SP does do a lot of bad things tho
Overwatch
😂 I don’t play enough games I guess
Lol
It’s just sad that all SP changes is leading into more frustration 🤷♀️
fair
I'm waiting to zee what the abyssal era actually brings first
Clara Claus stats make it sound more like Abysmal Era 😕😬
I’m not excited
When ever I was I got like a punch in the face
When I read Clara Claus I expected something else in design 😄 like Santa wifey but she is still cute paywalled but sweet
Abyssal being a word for the bottom of the sea is accurate for how low the game’s relevancy will be 
i mean its been like that but let see if the name of this era will be accurate of Abyssal’s cons unless they managed to make it decent by any chance
@upper stratus this channel exist
Lack of a good way to rank is what I'm least excited about
@upper stratus I think zynga did not buy sp
Take 2 took over zynga who also owns SP
No one has ever made an idea related to Shields smh
The shield stacking effect was leaked a while ago

wait really?
Yea
how come i didn’t see it in chinchilla’s
Wasn’t posted there I think
let me take a look in kaz
Tempting.
Roblox (Loomian Legacy
)
Looks like an actor from series elite
Ha ha.
Enabling image perms in #general-feedback was a mistake 😬😅
Fr
but but
you should keep it on
since enabled image feedbacks can be good
existence feedback??????
lol
i mean isn't that every feedback ever
that's not my point
What's the point again?
that this is wrong
💀
text walls are interesting most of the time 
your text walls are good though 
twd event isn't gonna happen again
You know what, good. 
good indeed 
Lol my feedback was deleted again
😂
Considering I said absolutely nothing that violates the rules it’s truely a joke
just rewrite it 
For a 3. time ?
oh boy can't wait for people to start complaining about what meow had to say
even though i see nothing wrong with it
Only problem I have is the fact she said to keep feedback concise 
I cant be concise in my feedbacks
I personally like the „ it’s gone“ part
It’s gone indeed many peoples money is 😂 I would love to know many players bought R0 Rick cause they had no idea about not being able to rank in dungeon or didn’t expect a unreasonable pricing of 300 per R5.
Hey there! I was missing out on this debate 😁 If your feedback has been deleted, it doesn't necessarily mean it broke rules, but remember we want to keep it feedback oriented! Sarcasm, sadly, takes us nowhere, and that's not the right channel to vent.
Yeah, I understand this frustration. We'll raise it with the team, although I think it'll be more for future reference. However, very valid point.
@compact elm wdym “sneak peek channel”
For upcoming updates that’s what he means
Bro are you bling or smth
I didn't even make a spelling mistake
and what do you mean by that
Are you referring “sneak peak” as leaks and considering to be a channel for that
there are other ml related servers with a leaks channel
A peak is like the top of a mountain.
And dm me if you haven't received one already.
Nemesis I don't see the point of that feedback
Well it's one of my main questions atm. Seeing how there's no other known way to rank abyssals the gap between f2p and p2w will be massive
Expect it to be yeeted then 😅
Also seeing how current mythics can't compete stat wise I'm hoping there's gonna be a way to rank them for free instead of like TWD monsters. Getting them and being stuck with a r0
Bro these guys we’ll know they won’t stop playing ml😂
hi mari 
Do you even like the new stats that would kill off past era monsters more because of the incredibly high stats
Of course we have a stat increase with each era but 3k speed diff is a bit very much as their power is insane to
Only problem I have with the stat increase is the fact that it indirectly nerfs Ken in BH since fugitives will have increased life
for me its the meta in general
the meta was stale anyway
while serpentex does kill off Abominations, along with Darks and Natures, they’re manageable to beat Light/Fire meta monsters
people complained all the Galactics weren't good enough to change the meta, now that the meta is gonna change everyone complains again
But for a massive stat increase for an ancestor, thats more of a bigger problem in the meta
for me its more like how SP made their skills and traits that Galactic’s meta didn’t perform well, like Clawgore to Mikenetic to Trickytricker rather than the stats alone
i wonder why they kept on releasing mostly mediocre monsters even after the feedback 🤔
I tbh hate meta changes they make me feel like I paid for nothing .
I think it would be cool if monsters would work together from different eras
I think blossom and doomed work very nicely together while galactic there is only 1-2 monsters which I really wanted among my collection like K911
Increasing stats to create a fake new meta is kinda boring.
Now Speed and power will dominate for a while till they release a pierce one and we are in the same situation as before 😅
Interesting will be no talents. Cause they are absolutely game changers
Doomsday and Blossom, for me could’ve gone well if we didn’t get Fire and Light monsters that would’ve killed Dark and Natures easily and the Elemental Advantage feature didn’t improved :MeShrug:
I mean the last race monster was outdated before race started
I don’t understand why anyone would go for 85 laps or more
Yet 200 😂
Bless their hearts they’ll never win a war bc of that monster
I mean if they wanna keep up their record 🤷♂️
i would’ve done the same if LIOOM somehow managed to get above 15 laps
Serp will one shot bc of abomination hater and advantage of element. And in spirit we have so many better monsters
We actually had people voting for 0
😂😂😂
gonna give points for K9 to ACTUALLY counter Fire and Light meta
K9 is a cool monster.
him being a trait disabler for a support is an interesting change for a Water and Metal monster
I also like Loomi but she often useless cause pierce is in play
1st we got a speed decrease with dabunka then huge spd increase with new era
I also have dabunka but I never used him in war … he was cheap why I got him to carry RUSD 🥲
If he was Blossom then this wouldn’t happen about his speed stat smh
i used mine as Heavy Attacker for a backup
Basically it’s the talents that make a era good
Doomed has many good ones
Blossom &
Galactic terrible talents only 2-3 good ones
Talents are my least favorite part of the game, so glad they're gone next era
like atleast when a monster is outdated it can still be used for gold, accomplishment, book rewards
once a talent is outdated, its outdated and never getting used again
discontinuing talents for next era and bringing the new faction relics was a great idea for once on SP's part
Most never get to be use. I still use souldrag at times tho
The obsidan relics were nuts tho
You could basically add what ever monsters with maxed relics and win from that
Speaking of which, are they replaced with the new relics in abyssal?
Like 3+ shadow essences extremely annoying
Talents usually make or break a monster (Horn, UA, AZ, Hook), without a stat jump... the new monsters wouldn't get used
mhm
no Abyssal or Ancestral talents
and no talent slot
Ancient Relics is the "replacement", though most of the new relics can't even compete with Obsidians
though I will agree that Griffania did not need a second stat jump on top of the Abyssal one, she was already broken beforehand with that perma Skill Mirror
talents were fun when they didnt affect a battles outcome by much
oh 100%
I love the design reminds me to Elvira, which however made me realise they remade every monster possible instead of releasing their pets
It isn't perma though is it
Just when she's "awakened" or whatever its called
A bit silly tho
It basically is permanent tbh
Doesn't it hide again when the user uses that special skill that puts them back into the base form?
The requirement is easy to activate with a lot of monsters like Shadowyna and you can keep it indefinitely assuming you don't use the Ultimate
Cope, the game can’t stay the same forever.
Still running a Corrupted 
But making such a jump is absurd. Griffania has ~3 times of Grateful Teds health.
its a new rarity, what would u expect
SP doing something stupid. Which is what happened.
Calling other players idiots because they have a different opinion than you have is toxic and unwanted behavior
dam mari 
🤣
and now griffania can one shot nebotus 
You are quite correct. Nice to see you here.
No because these kids expect the game to stay the same forever acting like children
Because they make sense
I would counter but your feedback is already deleted
"These kids are acting like kids"
😅😕
It's not about the game staying the same forever
It's more a telltale sign of bad balancing slowly phasing out old eras and bringing in new
Again there is no use for calling someone an idiot, just say you dont agree
The way these stats look, this is the biggest bash in a long time at pushing out old eras
Especially new relic tier, new rarity too
Its another reset, im not sure if that is what I would choose to do but its relatively easy to do it like this
it just is another easy way out instead of going back and rebalancing everything
and to be honest, it might be a reasonable choice considering how absurdly unbalanced everything was
Im wondering what those "balancing changes" will entail
That’s the point the stats won’t stay the same forever
You've lost me
Stats stay the same, mons don't get changed post release except in very rare circumstances
Just new monsters come out with better stats after a while
But what people aren't happy with is the new mons coming out with such extremely high stats in comparison to the old monsters that the old monsters may be rendered immediately unusable, or a point of skills vs stats... sounds like OG Mythic again 😅🙃
chances are he's never played during any of the stat jumps
What is best is a gradual transfer from one meta to another rather than making a splash and instantly dominating
These types of stat changes are designed to kill the previous eras
The power and speed stat increases only by around 25% yet the life stat is doubled
The problem isn't that it's changing, the problem is that this era is looking to do what OG Mythics did, completely wiping out the old eras that have gone too far in powercreep, making a clean slate so they can start over.
also the fact that p2w players get easier access to the powercreep monsters ranked it just makes a massive gap that takes a while to close
Assuming the gacha is the only way to even rank Ancestors, that's gonna cost multiple thousands to r5
Noone is gonna buy that
Does he even play the game now
Well...the meta has been the same for 1 year
yes but we were slowly getting counters for it
I like the fact that there's been a heavy stat jump, it's a meta reset basically, but griffanias stats are overkill
magic meta is back 
It felt too stagnant imo
yeah but like
griffania existing isn't good cause now teams will have to deal with her
It's going to be hard to rank her up anyway
If you're lucky enough to get her from gacha, she's probably staying at R0
whales 
Idk, it depends on sp, if they change the probabilities it might be easier
He hasnt whaled at all this season
Apart from buying r5 Klawax and then selling it
If you check his profile
So he has whaled
didn't he whale on twd
Twd wasn't this season
@karmic fable they already said that will put every relic in the chests even uncraftable ones
That wasn’t the point of my feedback
leaks said*
And yes, those are leaks
Still haven’t officially announced
But regardless, that wasn’t my point
I edited a typo just after I sent it 
false 
Proof? 

wait you came back???
didn't you quited tho
I missed some of the community so i returned
I thought the Same with twd monsters 😅
@lyric coral you didn't finish all tasks or you should have 4300+ points
is that with glp purchased though
Want me to show you that I have 0 tasks left ?
I mean, 280$ for R5 looks a lot more reasonable when it's put next to 24,000$ for R5 💀

I have 4210 without finishing one
The thing is you forgot daily ones
This is the free bad pass all tasks completed 😄
did you buy the pass or left on free?
I never needed dailies on old pass 🤷♀️
Never, the rewards sucks
If they plan on forcing us to do all dailies without missing it. Heads-up shall be provided 😅
That’s insane Imo 😂 there was nothing positive about it
I mean
There's nothing positive about the Gacha either
and that's getting a massive focus drawn to it for everything next era
You could just screenshot the in progress ones tho
Majority ppl I've snooped profiles for didn't even get Dvice
all the ones I snooped were whales
We need 27 days to complete it, which sucks a lot but not impossible if you stay active
Didnt know this existed
I know 1 person Laurie
I believe she had a lucky roll because we did 10 laps so likely hasn’t done 85 summons
I can do only 35 summons because my team is quitting too
If I would have known I can’t miss dailies 🤷♀️ I would have done them. but never needing dailies i waited till yesterday to complete all and recognised I won’t get close 😂 was too late tho
This is SP we talking about
They don't make announcements to benefit the players
Remember the Halloween book updated the last monster after the event was over?
Not knowing is not reason to state we didn't have enough tasks.
The points for each one should be increased tho, nobody will get the egg until 2~3 days season is over
ALSO, THIS final challenge was a virtual middle finger to everyone with the bad pass because if you didn't breed Preston there's no good hero to use in the current season
And redeemed Voltaik breed event was too late to breed and rank him.
(Good thing all dailies got us 90 points)
Their communication is plain aweful. They communicate nada
Not even good things 😂 like what’s with this mythic cells we can request ?
Mistake ?
Intended?
Nobody knows 😵💫
The mythic cell request event is in news
That's why I say you shouldn't expect any useful info from them
So, after day changes I can get 90 more which mean total F2P points is 4400
It's doable? Yes
Worthy? Absolutely not
I had small hope it was permanent
That would be nice.
I know quiet a few people that weren’t able to finish the „bad“ pass
@lyric coral skill issue bro I did every task except one and completed it in a couple days💀
And I play the game for 30minutes max then get off
You too pro
do you have the VoltaiK Redeemed pass?
He mentioned having the special breeding event in his alt (lvl 67) account
So he shouldn't have Voltaik pass
No
then i guess you're just trolling
@mossy snow do you have the pass that ends at 2k points or the one that surpasses 4k 
idk i got that charm thingy
didnt pay for the pass cuz its dookie
i finished the free version of pass tho
and got redeemed man
Then you didn't have the bad pass
Also, don't use #general-feedback to chat there
ok sorry but there are multiple passes?
3
bro what since when
Read #announcements since november
wjats the 3rd one
The one where you get the artifact?
It's basically the good one with a bonus
ah i thought u meant like three totaly different ones
So, practically speaking there are 2 that are like the same
And one different with 4200 points
damn that sucks didnt realize they changed the pass, rip every1 who got the bad pass i will pray for u tn 🙏
yep 
🙏
i think it might happen again tomorrow 🤔 who knows
Sadly prays won't give them a free voltaik or ship talent
hopefully not
:hmm:
probably not
I got lucky that I had a Voltaik egg in my inventory so I hatched it the same day the breeding event started
And managed to get white voltaik after 6 tries
But lots of new players with the bad pass couldn't get it without the parents and at the same time couldn't make enough points for the free talent
We shouldn't need to complete an extra step for something half the players already had for free

it wont happen again!



How am I trolling u fool.
@thin totem The rewards look fine and dandy until you realize you have to pull her multiple times to rank her up
and there is no longer a guarantee
so you either get lucky or you don't
gonna hold off on making my first impression feedback wall until maze drops
Still has amazing stats and moves 🤷🏻♂️
good luck using her at r0
aight
Im so FED up with my feedback being deleted
Like seriously 😂 why would I not be allowed to say that I do not like this pass and that I want the same pass as everyone else ?
Everything is based on Action and reaction
Sp gives me a terrible pass I will indeed say it’s bad and manipulation of the gameplay and I would love to have it changed.
well deserved mute 
I don't even know how I'm meant to go about tackling a feedback wall on the new era
It's just universally terrible
Fr
There is nothing positive about it 💀
Except for the fact that even whaling can’t get you a ranked monster from the gacha system
true 💀
wonder how long my feedback will last
Is that good or bad
Good bc think about the divide if you could
Imo that’s bad
its good for the free players
If you spend you should be able to get something for it
bad for the whales who cant control their spending habits
Yep
and also ig SP cuz theyre making no income from this crappy gacha
people still do smh
Not on Gacha
^
Unless you sell your house for a R3
how are the deals there then, if they won't make any money with that?
😂
Lol
Bc Moses will buy them
cuz anyone who isnt deliberately throwing money away wont buy them 💀
majority of offers are never bought yet theyre still in the game
for example Smuggler's Cave (gem version), entirety of chest shop, etc
the krakens or the dumb guys do, and they do make profit so its alive, smuggler's cave is an example to that
unless majority of guys stop buying things in game, this deals will be there
its donnowall in feedback anyways
@twin rune why are our feedback being deleted without breaking any rules and even pointing out why the changes affect us in a bad way?
I even avoid repeating what others mentioned (which are already gone too) and brought something new too
Feedback doesn't need to explicitly break rules to get deleted. I deleted your message because of the way it was written. You're free to repost it as long as you rewrite it more clearly: pointing out the pain points, explaining why you don't like something, and if possible, mentioning what you'd like to see instead. All of that without sarcasm/toxicity, if possible.
As I said, you're welcome to reshare your message, I'm just asking you to write it in a more neutral tone. Negative feedback is welcome always, as long as it's constructive and not just lashing out.
How was it lashing??
Would it even do something? It's not like you guys listen to any feedback
@karmic fable not just the same people, now MORE people have it.
Another team member who had the good pass last season now got hit by the new one, and of course he hates it too
@dull fox no need to send the same feedback twice
What if they don’t see it?

yikes
They may delete both
You can send it as much as you want, they won't see it either way
True true and I’m only sending it once a day 🤷♂️ 👀
We ALL should take one post with every problem listed and repost it every day
Well that would make #general-feedback very alive but won't affect the game
At this point is just another #talk-to-rocks channel with different title
Nah
no
Nein?
It's more like #talk-to-walls
At least people interact with each other there
Yeah
i mean rocks is quite chill 
The thing is they wanna teach us how to give feedback. Which is absolutely insulting.
In my opinion they have to learn HOW TO TAKE FEEDBACK. They should accept the feelings these terrible changes cause. rather than being salty about how a feedback is written (as long as there is nobody insulted and so on) . Imo shows what they really care about.
🤷♀️
I learned that no matter how the feedback is given, Never feel personally attacked.
Cause you can learn from every feedback. No matter what words were used to express them.
Considering we speak English and only a minority of us natively there is a lot of room for misinterpreted meanings and understandings.
Million times we offered to have a zoom meeting with couple of players to give 1. hand feedback. For free.
SP could save a lot of money for their random bad tests 😂
Take it, learn from it, maybe listen to it once every other day and make the community happy
Talk to rocks is a great place
and I loved that we created it
I love the friendly interaction between developers and players. Imo it’s healthy for the game to have developers communicating with us.
I forgot I learned English in an early stage and yes, considering a lot of children play this and barely understand how the language works they gotta take into account 'fixing glp' is an opinion as valid as other walltexts
We can't give positive feedback if every new change makes the game objectively worse
Which is sad
I really tried to see something positive about new era
But with the new „bad“ pass I feel like my game is set on pause
I had 5 players retired today because of the bad changes and more will. Majority is fed up
Talk to rocks is solid and I will ask for anything who slanders it to be banned 🤣
But yeah good points about second language
I wonder how many people noticed the maze monster is also the FLP mon?
I think quite some people did
@karmic fable 1: Use this channel for discussion 2: You’re talking to a muted user 
ok
@viscid hound I dont understand your “idea”
My idea is to simply release what the race monster and its stats will be a week before the race. If it is a great monster, let’s be honest the last one wasn’t imo, teams will be more motivated to play harder. Build excitement.
they’re released after maze
they’re skills, stats and trait would be leaked during maze
Why not right now?
because why not?
A week before
Because why not??
That’s right before the race starts
If they posted the leaks 4-5 days before race started it would encourage many of the players to prep for it in someway and definitely get them excited for race. The leaks are like a teaser a trailer. Trailers are released way before the movie comes out so it gets the people anxious and excited 🙄🙄 I don’t think any producers would be releasing the trailer a day before the movie is shown in theaters. You think they should do that?
No 🙄🙄 they shouldn’t
Was all of that necessary?
Definitely 💯
Literally not that big of a deal for leaks appearing for like a few times a week
U didn’t understand the “idea” so I had to go a little in depth
It definitely is.
I love the leaks.
Don’t you love the leaks?
EVERYbody loves the leaks
its when their skills or traits leaked are the problem
like being hyped for someone like Clawgore’s name being leaked
until his skills come out, only to be a disappointment
and now Dark Abomination
Though im more into leaks of names and checklists
Np. If the people wanna see leaks show them the leaks. #Wewannasee the teaser
I wanna get all excited for the race. 🥳🥳Don’t you @viscid hound🥳🥳 but 👏 I need to see the teaser
Is it too much to ask for a little info before the last minute?
Or are they just that unorganized
Hopefully this is all thought out a little better than last minute
Definitely not. But I’m very happy we are even getting leaks tho. Thank you ml.
Word a teaser/trailer is never released a day before movie is shown in theaters 😂 like its a pretty good analogy honestly
I love the races. Races are my favorite part of this game. The ultimate test of a team
I’m just saying why can’t we know more, like a movie trailer comes out to build interest
Yess 😭😖
💯 😭😭
It is a lot of work to prep for a race for newer teams.
Especially if you plan on doing 40 laps
If ml knows what the race monster will be why not release the details and some cool artwork a week before? WhyNot?
Yes and while sp gets on this please view my feedback on #general-feedback as well. That’s a problem many of us are going through we aren’t able to play ml to our hearts content because of this issue. Please do something I enjoy playing this game a lot so does everyone else going through this same problem. Thank you. 🙇♂️
thank the people in chinchilla leaks 
Thank you chinchilla leaks 👍 🙌
Yes thank you chinchilla🔥
Leaks are ment to show you a possibility of a monster. For example a monster could seem mediocre at first glance (Elvira Demon Slayer for example) but then begin to show just how broken they are with their traits and while yes it is frustrating to leak a monster and then not show that monsters stats making it difficult to know if it's worth it or not there have been multiple times when a monsters skill set was changed before it was even released (Fruitastor for example use to only have single 30% life removals before it got changed to AOE 30% life removal)
There is also the general part where a team doesn't have to come to a decision right away. A team can generally take a day to make a final decision with all of the stats, relics, and even skill changes and if some members are capable they can even ask around for the general concensus of high ranking players who do PvP and Wars
@crimson lynx please put monster ideas in #monster-ideas.
Thank the people Chinchilla Leaks gets their leaks from 
did they get rid of the Dyno suggest command btw
It was working yesterday
Can we ban sujal?
"Can we" stop suggesting bans 🧐
at least their “feedback” is gone so that phrase of mine wouldn’t be needed
That’s SP then. 🤔
that is true
Sujal needs to read the feedback channel description.
Wack needs to read it as well.
Leaks are generated from info that is available to most
The problem is only a few people now how to interpret that info, how i miss sonnor now 🍀
@silk roost monster ideas go in #monster-ideas please
Ok
@lucid tulip where was it officially shown that we aren't getting Quest anymore 
I mean, look at the leaks for the season
no
Bruh, those are leaks it’s not confirmed.
@rain spire silly mons I came up with in naths dms
and why are you telling me here and not #monster-ideas

Discussion is permitted in #monster-ideas 
@patent mango No creativity and elaboration and over-suggestion moment
Massively oversuggested and over repeated
"Fix" it when it isn't broken
Should be the name of an attack for a new monster 🤓
#monster-ideas :trol:
Point to note, if you no longer play, then you can’t give feedback as you aren’t playing. Sorry. That’s the way it is.
Guess it's time for me to stop making feedbacks once and for all 
been a good journey, I'll just stick it out until this game falls into obscurity and/or dies
@fringe musk Ranked them up, give them better runes, have better monsters from recent eras to make old era monsters useful in pvp :MeShrug:
or wars
dont have cells, dont have many good runes and i cant get too many recent era monsters from anywhere
Thats a you-problem + skill issue 
You really need to read the feedback channel description and give reasons, not just a one line.
Please do that.
Oof I've seen that text wall feedback 5 times already
well, interesting one there

