#monster-discussion
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You could make a case for neuro being more useful potentially just cause of his books tho to be fair
But as a monster I think jock and Kaliber are better than neuro if I were to use any of them in multiplayer I would use Kaliber
Although jock has some utility rn on defence ofc
There’s no real reason to use Kailber tho since we have so many good options but damage boosting support wise it’s essentially just Jock and Neuro
Not saying I don’t like Kaliber bc I really do but in my experience, which is limited, Neuro is a lot more useful in wars and pvp
Brother it’s the opposite… we have TONS of good damage boosters we have Hounen, jock, redeye and Neuro where we only have 2 good pierce attackers not to mention Kaliber + dame is the simplest Hounen counter in the game Kaliber one taps Hounen while ignoring his status caster team evasion
Not quite. Again I do agree with Kaliber’s usefulness. But it’s not wise to run Hounen without another support i.e. Jock or Neuro. Respectfully Redeye is outclassed by both
Redeye isboutclassed by them I was simply pointing out that jock and neuro aren’t the only meta damage boosters also Hounen is just fine without a support lol that’s just straight up false
Didn’t say he wasn’t fine. I said, “it’s not wise”
Kaliber is a great counter to the best monster in the game neuro is great but he’s simply not as good
I disagree strongly
Also false lol Florian, Hounen and diabolus works just fine Hounen doesn’t need another support its not unwise to run him without one
Your opinion. Just fine and isn’t wise are two different things
If you’re going to be argumentative you should have more experience to back it up I get you’re new and that’s fine but you shouldn’t be arguing with anyone and everyone when you’re still learning
I argue to learn and that’s served me really well irl and it’s done a fairly good job here as well
I like to have discussions on the game but you can’t have the opinion of “I’m right, you’re wrong” and never be able to have your mind changed
You don’t have to argue to learn tho lol but you do you man
You’re underestimating Kaliber definitely try him out more he’s the first mythic in considering putting 14’s on
I don’t have to, yes. But I do and it served me well which was my point
Im not disagreeing I do really like Kaliber. I’m just not seeing how he’s better than Neuro
I’ve changed my mind a lot on this game and I’ve been clear about my experience but I’m also not going to just say yes without understanding why
You said objectively neuro is better
Kaliber counters the best monster in the game
It’s as simple as that
Use a better monster
She’s not bad for her restricts in wars tbh but she’s nothing too crazy
what monster should I play and what relics? (+sydrid spirit in hatchery) any tips for beginners team building?
Dame will be rank 1 in a few hours
Dame setup please
Kerubel, Dame and Cauddart is the best team I can make out for you
Satyrus for dmg boosts
ok what relics or do I not worry about that now
do I focus on one team or level a few others
and where do I get monster that’s better for Dame
sorry I don’t know anything
In my opinion, Florian Malsang is one of Dame’s best allies (excluding her synergy team). Florian can trait disable and apply tortures, which aids her, while she has AoE NER, and I believe she is bugged, meaning her condition overrides other ancestors (at least for me)
okay but where do I get him
I run them, as you can see
when does the cave change I have the ticket one but I heard it sucks
I think it’s changing for other users, but I also have the ticket one. And in my opinion, the ticket one doesn’t suck, it’s just mid
should I hold on to my gems for now?
So far there’s no indication of when it will change, if at all
For all we know we could be stuck with it forever
How many do you have?
I would recommend farming for a few more (eg, 300-400), then doing whatever cave you have. Then, leave if you get caught either without golden tickets or before room 8
I always get hit on 12
using all of it?
No, just enough to get at least 100
I have a recommendation
Always go to the pot on the opposite side of where Avarita was last
If he was in pot 3, go for pot 2 next
If he was in pot 4, go for pot 1
And vice versa
I do that
There are a lot of runes, and what runes you use is based on what role the monster you use has
Try and get Ancestral Relics, like these
I’m only level 37 😭
Ohh, I forgot there was lower levels (I’m 150 right now)
💀💀
My bad 😭
neither does he pls don't listen to him💔
get akira and florian
Are you referring to me?
Ohh, my bad (thought you were referring to me as I was talking to the Iris person)
Oh wait, you are have your team
Dame, easily
Enforcerion for a tank/nanovirus (I rarely use him, but he’s fairly good)
Then probably Cauddart for the power creep thing, but I would highly suggest focusing on anyone else from Feral or Conspiracy
Probably try and get more meta monsters from later eras (Feral or Conspiracy)
Level others only to 50
OH GOD 😭
is this the ancestral relics you were talking about 😭💔💔
how unlucky am I
I would send you any if I could Jesus 😭
I’m like 99% sure it’s literally impossible to get good relics from those
do you usually get bronze from them too or am I just unlucky
Usually get bronze too, occasionally silver if I’m lucky
The only silver relic worth anything is Pestilence Trap, since you can win every Dungeon (with the exception of Hard) instantly
I have 1 12 and 2 11 speed rune and rests are 10s. whom should i give higher runes dame or hounen
Dame
Is satyrus better than albynassa?
depends
On what?
It depends on what haters you need. Satyrus - celestial & demon dwellers hater/Alby - umbrella hater
Well i would say umbrella hater is better since most of the Monsters have umbrella hater
But satyrus's hater is quite situacional
However i was wondering about stats too
Wich is better in general?
Satyrus’ stats are better bc of the era. Satyrus - multiverse & alby - alpine
I need help making a better attack and defense teams
Stalwart, iceblood & Kerubel on attack. Enforcerion, deticticoon, & rap on defense
What do you think of enforcerion?
I just got him after alot of grinding
Really like his design and trait choice
Really solid monster
He’s annoying to fight against and has plenty of longevity in battles
He’s underrated ngl
People don’t use him because he’s a little old now but he’s actually so good his trait set is incredible
What’s the name of this monster??
just need the name
I haven’t played M.L since 2019
That's Shelly, a dark type mythical from the cosmic era
Shelly my roach 
Op tank
The power creep is real (neither have runes btw)
What do you expect? That’s a big difference
A better comparison is Conspiracy to Feral (mythics and ancestors) and it’s insane
I don’t know where to put this, so I tried to find a good channel, but this guy has the same monsters on both teams
Might just have duplicates
Isn’t that not possible
Haven't tested it
U can't have duplicates lol
Cause they swap their teams around so they swap their attack team to defence when they’re ever playing it’s a visual error
ohh, i thought they bugged out the game, my bad
You’re good now you know😎
thanks for explaining!
No worries dawg💯
Best team ever
This isn’t even the best example. In fact, it might be one of the worse ones
Jungle Eagle in 2025 ❤️🩹🌹🔋
Most useful healer I have
I would infinitely take a meta D tier healer than an outdated S tier healer
Look at the emojis
Remove and stop it.
Random question, but are there any ancestors that can’t awaken before getting to R1 or higher? I can’t think of any, but I think I remember one or two
Diabolus
I knew there was one
Yeah
He has to apply 5 hellfires
If I am not wrong
And he didn't have hellfire in his skillset at r0
So pretty hard to awaken
Doesn’t he have random torture though? It’d still be possible, just much more difficult
I checked the wiki, he has random torture, meaning it is theoretically possible, just actual hell to get
The first one that came to my mind was Anwir, but then I remembered it’s not just Anwir resurrecting allies, it’s anyone
Theoretically yeah, but he can only apply 3 random tortures at a time with a cooldown, and he needs to get 5 hellfires so for practical purposes you can't awaken him without ranking
I know, which means it doesn’t technically fit what I asked, así meant CANT awaken, which means I don’t think any ancestors are awaken-less without ranking up
That's what I meant to say
Underrated team imo
Bro put random emojis and thought it would mean something
thanks!
Any recommendations for Attack/Defense teams in PVP?(I also have Proud Lionell at rank 1)
All look mid idk
Probably Jungle Eagle, Rick Coyote, and Proud Lionell for now, since they’re your most meta monsters. HOWEVER, try and get virtually anyone else. These are just temporary suggestions
I've only been playing for 2 months tho
Pretty impressive set for a two month player
I'm also trying to get my first Ancestral but I'm 1k tickets down and still nothing
Highly recommend getting Florian for your first, as he’s very powerful
I was trying to get Hounen I got 300 cells for him but still no egg
Same i started playing again 1 month back but i have gotten lucky and got myslef both hounen r3 and florian r1 with 4k tickets
Cave has been generous to me
I need charm tho 🫣
damn thats so lucky
Nice
Yeah get hounen
I got two hundred tickets. Do I save them for the next ancestor or spend them trying to get an old new one (image is the ancestors I already own)
I would never spend less than 400 tickets personally
Eh, it’s all I have right now and since I’m pretty sure the bounty hunt is tomorrow, I’d be getting a bunch of gems then
Rank hounen
I don’t use him, nor do I plan on using him
You deliberately want to hinder yourself in bounty hunt?
I don’t really do the fugitive. I do the tiles since I can get free gems if I’m lucky
Rip, killing fugitive gets thousands of gems by end lol
He's also PvP and war meta but whatever
Everyone beats me to it, so after three months, I just gave up 😭
Yeah i mean whats the point in maxxing him out
Hes only the best monster for everything in the game
I use Florian and Dame, since Florian’s cursed countdown is more reliable for kills than anything, and Dame has Rez Block. I used to run attackers, but monsters like Stina, Gardenion, or literally any other self sustain made them impossible for me to use
Yeah i mean cursed countdown is sooo much better than the long 2 turns hounen takes to one shot the whole team
👍👍
But if you get hounen then you can do fugitive because you can't right now
What skillset to run on hounen?
I use these
Same for bounty?
I don’t like attackers in general in games. Plus, this is my opinion, I’m not claiming this to be fact
Probably not with the extra turns, seeing as the fugitive has Anticipation, if i remember correctly
Hounen is not pure attack mons tho. It is support
Yes
He doesn't use the et moves, forces him to use the other 2
Oh nice
Is it true fot all mons or only hounen
All if the et does no dmg, if it does dmg it'll use it
I was thinking to use hounen , raspuntina and for third i was confused
Algata/zenfira/kuromaku
I don't have jock or red eye 😅
Dame or Xan ideal
I will aim for dame by next BH
Right now focusing on ranking up hounen to r5 (currently r3)
Hopefully i also get charm by next time
Rate the attack team
Is it for bronze league
Could use a lot of work 3 speed on Tikaani, 3 team speed on jungle eagle and 1 strength and 2 team speed on cornucrabia make sure to have revival essences on both jungle eagle and cornucrabia as well as a stamina regenerating relic on all 3 monsters you can craft relics in the reliquary even ones that you don’t own so craft a couple Shadowyna’s essences and murk’s staff’s
Silver
If you do the things Murky says, and max out your temples you’ll be in good shape and you’ll likely double promote
Already crafted the relics, just waiting for the runes to craft
is she worth grinding for?
No
Who should I hatch
xiron cause u will be able to do his era saga
the four at the starting are your strongest
should i prioritise florian or akira for r5 akira is alrdy r1
Florian probably
How many cells do i need in total to rank up a feral mythic to rank 5 ?
8900
Damn why so many 💀
I wish i could tell you
Sp
guys help
200M damage?
Speed speed speed
Florian as a denier must be the fastest from your team
3 speed
How good is Heatspike?
Very solid monster in wars
One of the better undead book picks has access to the best torture in the game as well as ignite, great relic slots that synergize with the type of monster that he is and he can infinitely chain extra turns
ngl pulse bane also looks solid, this bh had some good picks
Got her for multiplayer and res block
Oh cool another lava rock dog! Reminds me of Mephisto but maybe their ult is cool
I HATE THOSE STUPID BABY SUMMON ULTS
BE MORE CREATIVE SP
Ong man
Doesnt even make sense idk why they keep bringing it back
whos the better tank frank einstein snowclus or polar blaze
Polar blaze easily
Is ice blood usable?
Yea imo especially if you were able to rank him up during bh and dont have better monster for war in his restrictions
He’s not terrible
Definitely useable if you don’t have anyone better
Thank you both!
is torog better than adadel?
Naaa
Not quite but he is infinitely better than adaled before rank 5 and you can get some free cells for him if you get him soon and invest before the era saga so there are some valid points to be made for getting torog before adaled rn overall Adaled is slightly better at rank 5 which is when both become viable but they’re so comparable that you could totally go with whichever one you like more and it would be completely valid
I detailed my thoughts on it in my new YouTube video @murky_skelektron if you wanna check it out
@upbeat zephyr sneaky sneaky youtube advertisement 😂
I try to slip that in there whenever possible🤣
Would stamina runes and relics be good for Heatspike?
its the best
stamina runes 💔
Runes mutated with stamina + Volcanyx and slumsters trap
Is there anything i could do to make my offense team better? Im keeping jestin justice on there.
2 speed JJ, team speed the rest
New player here, which monsters should I focus on utilizing from this batch? (Got lucky and went 30-0 in the cave and pulled these)
Current mythics + profile:
Torog, detecticoon and rapunstina are the priority ones
Icl I'd do saty over 3 attackers
So, those 3 are the ones I should be focusing on leveling up the most?
since im kinda low rn and its gonna take awhile so i wanna make sure i get it right
Good point, didn’t catch that
Slight change do satyrus over rapunstina
And yeah those 3 first
But the slimok guy I have at rank 3, or does that not matter
Old era and he sucks
k
Is there any f2p denier or attacker that i could rank up for this MT team?
Wait for bounty maybe. Pulse bane was available time (denier)
F2p attackers? Not so sure
How to improve this team. Like what other relics would be better obtainable f2p
Is this team good enough?
first of all i would level up the relics you are currently using until you find better ones
Only issue with that. I don't have lot of relics and food both
Hmm I get you. You know some relics which are better than I am currently using. Especially for dame i think
No clue tbh
Level 20 should be cheap
4.2M food
I don't know what I am using is best or not 
Is my runes and relics good?
Yea runes r nice
2 speed jj better icl
Mid, is the monster in the middle a support?
Attacker
Aight
Isn't Akuarioth controller?
Firewarp is a support I believe
Cakelius is an attacker
Support + torturer, he can spam a lot of tortures pretty quickly
Akuarioth is a controller
Yeah
Wrong reply bestie
gurlik move set and runes?
Not firewarp
Imo his best moveset would be Gintoni, Green Intolerance, Lots of Laughs and Rogue Smile, haven’t had a chance to test it out yet
Any suggestions on the best attack/defense teams I can make with these monsters?
hounen, gurlik, and maybe a denier or red eye
you could use the same attack team as defense
Isn't Rick better than Gurlik?
No
I would do Hounen, redeye and mekaduk you’ll need to rank up mekaduk a bit tho I think he needs to be at least rank 1 to get his taunt
Opinion about runes for
Mr. Adaled
Either do 3 team speeds or 1 health and 2 team speeds
3 team speed
Thanks for recommendation
My adaled is ready for L3 arenas
Ngl that Ada is ready for l1 arenas
🫡
Would you look at that, another fgk that's a small guy with a big weapon
I’M SO SICK OF IT
The worst part is these designs are still better than most of the towers released monsters
if anyone got advice on what i could improve please lmk
what should i get from this? my team is honen, fleimgard, and robo tito. i wanna replace robo tito
Guys is a team with 3 star emmerice, 0 star skydkold, and 0 star blaz good enough? These are the only mythics I have at the moment
Do you have barbatos rex? If not get him for his era saga.
Get better relics
no i dont, and i might. what does he do?
His saga gives you demonic pact, it’s a talent that you can put on monsters from that lamp you were asking about. It gives an instant 3 turn deathcountdown at the start pf the fight to your enemies
damn
okay ima pick him up then
ill probably make my fleimgard the tank of the team then
Based fleimgard user
he is really good plus his design is awesome
Exactly
how could you not like him
Really fun to use
fr
Also the sc nerf hit him hard too
anyways i suppose uriel will have to wait then, i dont think i need a healer anyways
nicee
Uriel(but need to rank up) and bratos rex(for demonic pact)
Barbotas > xmess > galvanus > uriel. Imo
Fleim gaurd best alpine era monster
fr
Fleimgard fanclub unite
Guys, I need some help to build my attack and defense team for PVP out of these monsters (including runes), if anyone could help out I'd really appriciate it.
What's a good team for the new ancestor?
I have 1500+ gems. Should I collect tickets for nebotus or just wait for the new era in a month? I only have hounen and Florian that are viable btw. My next best monsters are red eye, roger, JJ, and primerion. I am trying to rank up Adaled and Akira. I also want to get Dame first too. I'm just wondering what other people are trying to do
Do you have era resources to rank up some of those monsters?
Use hounen, rank up red eye roger and maybe use one of your higher level monsters as the 3rd monster for now. I like firewarp too but I only use him in era sagas or wars. I haven't used it in pvp. Ideally you also need a denier on the team
I’m thinking the best comp will be Hounen + dame + nebotus
Other damage boosts can work in Hounen’s place if you’d rather use someone like byronment or jock but Hounen will be the most versatile
Dame is maybe the more debatable one but I also think adaled will fall out of the meta a bit and torog will take over (in multiplayer exclusively not for wars ofc) because nebotus just absolutely thrashes adaled
Thank you for the insight!
This is why I saved my tickets, honestly he looks awesome in awakened but I like him in base form. He looks like some badass halloween decoration
i dont like how he looks for both base and awakaned, base doesnt look like nebotus and the awakened looks bad because of the torso tbh
I think it’s good, nebotus never had a physical form he was just eerie fire in armor, this works because like the fire of his arms is solidifying into a body and the eyes are cool touch because it’s reminiscent of his classic sword
the eye on the chest is so unoriginal, and nebotus on og was a manifestation of pure evil energy, now he has a slime/plastic looking torso which is weird and uninspired. Also why is he still green, while he was blue in the first place
Yeah i think that’s probably the move
I think that as well as Torog’s synergy with being able to awaken Hounen
Facts bro for bum’s like me without a supreme mask he can actually turn the tide in some battles and help pull off the win
He’s not as necessary if you do have a sup mask tho
Yeah I’m a bum too so i need all the help i can get
Still think he’ll be better than adaled when nebotus comes out in multiplayer tho
Realllll bro
I think that Idolator is going to be usable in the new meta as well
I just wish Idolator had Neoponti’s trait set
25% damage boost is nice though along with itc
They seriously need to change his name
Just changing it to "Nebotus Lord of Evil" is a big improvement
Or even evil lord nebotus
Teacher lamenta, I had a nun for a teacher (catholic school, makes sense if SP is Spanish from spain) seems cool, seldom for a tales monster and monstlvania, my personal favorite faction. Probably will use her for umbryl cavern of ascension.
Looks like a dmc character
Any suggestions on runes for both teams?
Florian should have your highest speed stats. I’d imagine ophiuchus you’d want your highest team speed runes. But you’ll want to try and switch it out for a mythic at your earliest convenience
On attack team it really doesn't matter as you will ALWAYS lose even with lvl 14 runes you just cant win. For defense team you can just leave it empty the team is already invincible rlly
Ikr
um
Bonnie bark solos
Pandalfio neg diffs
R4 him?
what runes/relics
He’s essential in sea book wars
I say put team speed runes in dame and Florian. For houen replace the team speed runes with speed runes
And also try to get supreme mask relic for houen to
guys is neopinti good
Hey @humble knoll
Back in Alpine monster duels
There was this Abyssal metal dog called Akithron
It could not deal damage, and only applied a negative effect called nanovirus
Ye I got it R5
Since both dogs had artifact, if both players were to have one
And no other monsters
The duel turned into a staring match which could last up to…
Same happens with enforcerion, best is with primigenius 💀 no one ever dies
It was just
The only way out was surrendering
Lol
Uh I feel that pain. Especially with artifacts, up until I got the new nebotus.
this happened to me in a syndicate saga but instead of enforcerion it was blackbarry
Team recommendation?
what runes and relics should i apply for hounen?
also what moves should i apply for him when i get him rank 1
All speed runes
Relics: essence which can revive ur hounen and for mask supreme is best
My team, join my team gng 😊
Should i invest on snowclus?
I’m planning to replace him with hounen when i get lucky (Currently have 200 cells)
If you have a lot of gems and plan on getting hounen soon then dont
If you dont have a lot of gems invest a bit in snowclus
Btw are you in any team
If not you can join mine👍
Just got him
Should i pick hounen?
or
Ohh
hounen is infinitely better than him
Okay thanks again, just didnt know who to choose
I've got lots of glitcherene, should I wait for a good pet in that era or are any of these good enough for me to use it on?
Hey guys, the monster Lelials or whatever his name is, where do I get him?
I had him on a old account that is probably gone
Lineages
Is he any good?
I remember it was the protagonist in one of those mazes (the expensive ones)
Gen?
Historian
Usable for now
use envigoairntg spirit
Replace hotsauce shot by envagerating spirit
Remove Hotsauce shot for envigorating spirit
should i rank up my fleimgard or cthulu? fleim is at rank 2 currently, and on rank 3 gets sc megataunt, but cthulu is rank 1
How many northberries and astronite do you have
uhhhh idk, im just thinking
275 notthberries, 60 astronite, 94 umbryl
225 for cthulu, 454 for fleimgard.
needed
Neither of then are an immediate priority to rank up but you can do the caverns of ascension to get more rank up material if you wish
Also don’t spend umbryl on either of them
sorry for the super late response, but why?
i’m guessing that umbryl is too hard to get rn as it’s a newer resource and it’s easier to get other rank up resources so just save your umbryl on conspiracy monsters
or other meta monsters that may not be conspiracy before the season ends
Exactly as bonkey says
Hello guys i have little bit problem with rune managment for my ancestrals could someone recommend me something?
For now both Dame and Hounen have XIVs team speed runes x3
Florian have 3 XIVs speed runes
And Adaled have 1 XIV HP rune and 1 XIV team speed rune
Question is what runes put on Maximus, Akira, JJ, Primerion, Evaris and on this new ancestral
New ancestral full speed
Akira double speed/teamspeed and 1 strength
Maximus double speed/teamspeed and 1 strength
Same with evaris
JJ double strength and single speed for wars
Or double speed depends on the fight
Primerion all speed
Idk if my team could use any improvements
Ancestrals is what your team needs
I’ve been playing for months and still haven’t gotten one my luck is just horrible
Dw ull get one eventually
I wouldn't use 2 attackers on both teams, run with a dmg booster if not enough dmg or denier
Just noticed lol
Rank up ur mons
Which ones
Presentus, rapun, maybe iceblood
Sadly getting ancestrals is now up to spending
Thanks for help Bob u are The Goat
Ancestors are still easy f2p
Ancestors are very easy and f2p friendly easy to max ton of them with tasks and surveys. If I had tasks and surveys probably would have had like 12-14 maxed instead of like 7-8 now in 4 months 
Is new architect monster any good?
he’s pretty decent for both new and old players but mainly better for newer players
it also depends on what architects you already have
anyone able to help me make a new team this all my stuff is just started agaijn
Depends on player. If player behave like player yep but if player behave like bot he will sit with level 100 mithics for to long to be added to strong team
Strong teams don't affect monsters much
Well if u are in top teams u get free ancestral shards don't u?
And also every team race u get good mithic to use in PvP
I don't think it affects that much
So in total if u would be free to play getting those addictional ancestral shard are good thing don't u think?
Xan good ancestral impact a lot in BH
It's good but these are not meta ones so at the end of day most of progression is from yourself
He works at level 50
And diab is only good one here for underworld wars but even gm victoria is better on defence because of randomness
So i don't think it affects that much
Still so what about mithics from team race?
They are meta every time for PvP
Mainly teams get 10 laps but still if they got it to r0 its even easy to r5 them with chests from Multiplayer fights
Most of them are not useful tbh. Some are good also a lot of team does 10 laps and multiplayer fights usually just involve Ancestors. I have been in a very mid team earlier for like 4 months ish and did most of my progression there
Does someone have tips for beating the last level of the Souls Liar: Nebotus Evil Lord challenge? Do I need to have all monsters level 150 with the best runes and relics. Or is it also possible with the team I have now?
Give neoponti speed runes
yeah why no runes on neoponti 😭
I forgot about that lol, but I applied two speed runes and completed it now. Thx
Will it be worth getting warutumn or does his reliance on raw dmg make him not worth the gems spent
what skills on equinowl?
Is ravenous good
For bounty hunt yes
He's good for sea wars outside of bh
yo is this like the move i’ve ever seen in this entire game, team ner, aoe per with a status effect, and only 2 turn cooldown
i think it’s better than any mythic monster’s moves as well
Ner and per in the same move is kinda insane
I don't think any recent mythic has that
Honestly you don't even need attack or HP just some speed so he can get some turns in
fr
and he has multiple per moves
and
he has a massive damage move
and
he can resurrect
and
he can aoe heal
bro is op
and he has tortures
Wait so he's an op support control hybrid?
With tortures?!?!
If this was on a mythic he could prolly cook a ton of meta mons
just sunburn but he also has blind and daze
he is the best hybrid ever
If we ever get another meta Mon that can give turns I'm immediately using this guy in my setup
If it weren't for him being a legendary I would say that's also a broken trait
But even still dang
Some of these last legendary mons were way too op no wonder they reset the meta with myrhics
yeah it totally makes sense
the only problem is that he is too hybridy
if he was more suited for a specific role it would be better
a support-attacker-control is kinda weird
like there is no reason for him to deal massive damage
Wait..MASSIVE?
Do you know what else is massive
Low
Taper
Fade
Bazzalright🥀
pack it up vro 💔
Ah Samael. Nemesis monster's were crazy at the time.
Genuinely the most p2w era of the game
Even tho I still don't like current ml of get lucky in treasure cave or get destroyed but it's def better than give us your money or get destroyed
Wsup shrenglar
Sup
pick Astro? koi boy is useless nowadays right?
Still a r3 is better for books, wars ig...I mean yes there might be better mons for wars but still u can easy get 330 astronite nowadays
how do u get easy astro like that
Coa
Pvp
Etc
Either way galactic mons ain't usable enough now, so I'd have preferred a r3 for mp and books😅
Grakon:
Would you replace any of
Hounen, Dame or Nebotus for president Canine?
Honestly at r5...yeah dame or nebo might go.
Check out nisael's skill set sometime, he has the same stuff but better
Idk, at least they were rankable with elementals. Forsakens weren't until well after they became (mostly) useless...
SP should add an et’er with sc:anticipation hater
I got these two, i already have Jungle Eagle and Dakuabenja, wich one should i add to my team?
Asperity
Aspero is really good for his respective war restrictions
Okie then, thank you @sacred gate and @hollow sandal
He's not really that good in much of anything multiplayer wise but you can use him in some era sagas
Is geishade and firewarp good I got them form conjuring
pretty mid but can be a big help when paired with florian but there are much better options
Than you all!👍
Both are decent in wars
R u saying that boiling , stamina drain , nanovirus curser is bad?
Its not good but its not bad
Yeah him and hexer are kinda bad without diabolus protecting em
Actually that made me think what if you had an attack team of diabolus hexer and darquarium
Then do not use it
(Unless u have resurrector like anwir)
Is it worth getting this dude just for demonic pact? I wanna use demonic pact plus nep that the new architect has
It's breedable.
OP TIER GOLD SLAVE IN EVENT
Is that finally a sign to add more Avaritias
yes definitely
Should set them to your pvp defense so ppl can get back at him for treasure cave
Is he really a “Glass Cannon Attacker?” 🧐
Yes compare his health to other corrupted his health is horrible compared to other non tank corrupteds
His power stat is insane, though.
Do you even know what a glass cannon is
Ok so a glass cannon is something that can deal a ton of damage but gets destroyed very easily basically his gimmick is he can dish out massive damage but can't take much in return
No.
torog or adaled?
Torog is more meta but if you want a tank that does better at its role of actually being a tank pick adaled
Don't you already have...
Counting...
...nine of them?
Also, I'm so confused.
The Revenge Squadron book consists of villains.
Firestorm is a superhero.
Huh?
Read sunblasts lore dude kicked him into the sun. Guess that merited evil legions while still being a superhero somehow.
kinda like homelander
Kinda
Honestly cometstorm is more like homelander imo
Anyone else found that the new ancestor is kinda bad in pvp? He sounds so strong in his skillset but his cursing moves are kinda useless because of all the torture immunities and artefacts going around.
What? Dude there hasn't been an artifact since historia
What league are u in and what rank is your voreth
I think maybe I need to rank up more Im champ 2
Only recently got my ancestors to r4/5 that's why I'm so low
Did you check war leagues or multiplayer leagues
Cause champion is war
Oh yeah champion isn't an accurate representation of the meta it's usually just ancestor spam and some mythics
It has uses to counter things ur probably not facing yet. It could hold celestial shield to aplly team control immunity and its slower than canine so if canine goes first and uses per mega corrupt as usual, it just removes it and he cannot deal with it himself
Hello, I'm an inexperienced player here, and I was wondering if you know of any team that would allow me to give a lot of buffs to monsters with low speed and give them an extra turn to attack. I'm interested in buffing some legendaries just for fun.
Maybe primerion and Ahma Niah
Ahma niah 💀
who is still using that
Literally no one that’s why she’s doing it for fun
😭
If you're wanting to use an extra turn monster to let a legendary get a move in, ahma isn't it
I would suggest looking into Thorder, the earliest legendary monster with hast skill and slow. Your team will get 5-6 turns ahead. ☺️
Back then one team consisted of 3 Thorders; that team was unstoppable.
Me after reading Greenasaur's bio
That's a woman?
Well I don’t see nothing bouncing round down there
nothing bouncing round up there also

If I recall correctly, there's seldom any gender differences in reptiles.
Um, what happened here?
Dude started apologizing? I believe he thought he had misgendered reptiles lmao, he asked "sorry i am sorry" like three times and now delete the messages, hence why you probably got the ghost ping.
Can anyone tell me how I can get about 150 gems before tomorrow's Bh
i didnt delete, the mods deleted it because i created a textwall or something
bounty hunt already give you so much gems
To rank fungitive killer
Ah yes I love defeating the fungitives i guess you could say it's quite fun
ohh its so many gems, not so much gems, sorry for grammar mistake
Crazy moderation choice tbh lmao.
I'll fungi on her tives until i kill er.
Bro might go to trial
Wdym
Sounds bad
Bad?
baddy crimson

What is best ancestral to go for as of rn
Hounen
I already have him
Adaled or canine I’d say
dame and canine i think
Alr
💔
i had flashbacks
lol
So whats this guy do?
Press on that tab that says Skills. 🤓
Damage
His skills kinda doodoo tho
alarmingly pale looking actor made a moderator scream in fear
Hey tim have ya seen the feedback channels
Why?
guys is r0 hounen good enough for anything at all?
Just curious what ya think about it
Needs rank 2 for better skills
Worth getting cuz its still the best ancestor, ranked up better ofc
Who do I put my lvl 11 speeds on
Gamble those 11s and make them 14s
I don’t have a 14 rune building
Then keep them for a time being
Why not use them for now?
Are they bad or sum
Replacing them is the issue. See if you use 9 or 14s it is easier to replace them
How much are they to remove?
And once you start investing in runes you will need to remove those 11s anyways
Normally they are very costly
Level 14 removing is 80 gems per level 14
Why can’t they js make it gold to remove them 
With 50% discount is 40 gems
Such a waste of gems
I said it dozen of times. People will make 9 14s and everyone will have 14s every war
Competitive will be joke that point
Aight bet I’ll save them
. Just use 9s for the time being
Speaking of gambling
Not first try
Using a lvl ten life
Second try
Just got Hounen to 120 what’s his best skillset bh/ pvp?
Is r2 hounen any better than r1??
Put supreme mask on him and use the aoe dmg boost + haters to awaken him super fast and Aoe Team evasion and extra turn skills
Did all that already, ig nthn changes with rank except trait and stats
I have all A maxed-out upgrades and am too stingy to upgrade the building.😆
Imo you should upgrade building and then get some runes. You just need all meta A's and rest can go into runes since values of runes doesn't get less with time
I'd rather save my diamonds 😄
Diamonds?
Gems
Should i get voreth or qylara if i had hounen, adaled, maximus and florian (all are r5)
You should get dame to atleast r2 for bh then get qylara r5
Dame r2 hmm
My bh team has hounen r5, chopork r3 and neuroshock. Does she fit my team and is she still meta in pvp?
Dame all day every day
Neuro was only perchance good for the previous bh
Due to nature hater
i dont have gafuhlz btw, is dame still op without it?
,you can craft it
The blonde one ig for bounty hunt but you need better monsters man
rapunstina?
Ye
Decent for starters I guess
Not the best feral attacker
omelette
😱😱😱😱😊😊😊❤️❤️
wut
😭
sorry blud
@ivory egret what are u even using bruv😭
Incognita Orbis abilities are absolute garbage, obtaining her is an absolute pain, and they dare to give her that skill set? Are you kidding me?
There is a reason her skillset is bad
Would you prefer a hard to obtain mon had a meta skillset 💀💀
We're talking about one monster from a beta event. Consider it whould be unfair see some ppl getting a free R5 good monster and you can't do nothing until this current era end
I don't think she's bad 🤷♂️
If they made the monster meta it would be unfair to those who don’t even have the hall of cards.
I never knew there was a sequel to Monster D.Vice :0
Strange how enhazor isn’t in cosmo civilizations.

I can R5 him almost twice 
Why would anyone need this many cells😭😭
I can r5 Urchinion like 5 times
There is levels to ts broski😼
You are pro
btw how you doing
Im okay brotatochip what about you
Good
which team you are? I forgot i am in souls lair currently
Better start leveling up that Roger for what's left of bounty hunt
My roger is R5 
W cells bro
Unfortunately I didnt play like the last 20 bhs lmao
The dumb team I made after ranking Qylra to 5🤣
Oh dear sweet red velvet cake with chocolate ganache.
this is my current team, all of them have speed ruins, i still dont have relics unlocked, and im planing on replacing Fayemelia with UV fusion once she hatches, all their moves are from the comp wiki
If you look In description of any of them put team speed on supports or I put mine on controller but but speed and a strength on an attacker
That’s jst my strat tho
How to improve team i don't have banner for watson and hd armour for katia 
use enkidu ☃️
and torog
and then give me 750 torog cells
so mine is 5*
😁
fr tho
level up the relics
for the bonus stats
Hmm stats are good W advice
you so pro
How do u get so many cells?
Hacking
Who do I rank after R5 Watson?
I would say wait for leaks of next ancestor
Like traits and skills
Also doing cave a lot more at starting of next era will be beneficial
We never know how meta moves so that's the best move
Oki ty
Which is the best legends pass monster
Hi, I want to ask a question about what are the best moves for Roguenec
Kev
Aight thanks
@upbeat zephyr i gotta question
What’s up homie
i got super lucky and i need to know who to choose..i already have dame,hounen,watson and florian
all of them r3
I’d say Katia, good for wars since they added zoomorph’s and great in multiplayer
i cant choose her yet🫠
they didnt add her to the pool
I’d go with Voreth then if you’re into wars
Covers 2 restricts that you don’t have
okay and also should i get diobolus cause i have no good monsters in the underworld books
my best monster in undworld books is lord inheritor😭🙏
Hmmm I’d say prolly no but it’s up to you
Diabolus covers one restrict which isn’t much
Monk flamorg is in the fire lineage
You can pick him up
hmm okay thanks
There's a token board path you collect rewards based on how many you have
Click the event board button in top right of screen on main page
5 days since i back to this game after leave it for 5 years, this my new mythic, are they any good?
The two on the left are the best ones
They always give you the recent era monsters on the left side and as you go to the right they get older
You don't have to focus on anything right now don't worry or stress it out as a new player, just get as much mythics and ancestors as you can
Then you can start focusing on each monster and get them r5
For now hatch Kevlar and Aspero
how to get them to r5
You will need to upgrade the lab
i mean how to get the resources to r5
through donates or something
or use this
You can ask for donations from the team but that's mostly to craft the monster you want since crafting it requires only 100 cells but it will need more than that to rank them so you will need to get cells for each era through events and chests
Yes these
Rank up dungeon and PvP chests best way I think
It's a dungeon, gives rank up stuff
ouh i see
so im currently at 15 token, should i still focus on buy the token at bounty shop
the event end in 3days i don't think i can get the next reward
If you only have 15/360 then no 😅
yeah sucks to be f2p player
at current bounty shop which monster should i focus buying
Kaliber
The new ancestor seems kinda mid
The only good thing is that it’s from the sea book
I guess we’ll have to wait and see its virtues
You know what I actually think its a decent ancestor
those traits are kinda busted
I just wish watson didnt exist
It counters watson to some extent
pick your poisen Hounen da kid or exarch or any number of things.
No only for wars
Except wars he is meh
Not worth summoning
Unless he gets busted virtues
Probably damage or skill mirror lol
For most ppl
or buffed
He's more like niche pick for wars ( mostly sea) now in other restrictions like thunder water adventures. He will be mostly useful in adventures only. We are not sure about his ai which can always be good or bad thunder and water have hounen so he won't do much to hounen ( atleast)
I got King Atum, what does the double earth element do? or is it just for show?
he gets boosted twice as much from earth boosts 🔥
What is the best Historia monster
Gardanion
I thought so
Thanks cuh
Multiverse actually
She's pretty solid for wars if you dont have jestin
I personally use her
Ye man I lost my old stuff to her at max rank when she’s r2 
😂
U won’t have to rank her up if u using era cells tho u alr have good stuff was gonna say to focus more on bh then 
wym i dont have to rank her up
i need some for wars yk
for bh im pretty set
just need to rank up charm to r3 tho 🥲
I was thinking her era might have sum for bh
I always rank up monsters late because I be doing the wrong thing 
Same I let her sit r3 since a long time ago people say she still useable so I’m happy to rank her if she is
i could max pork aswell idk if he has been useful haven’t played for past 2 eras
same i used daku before but everyone saying charm the best so yeah ig i have some grinding to do
do i r5 v-kid ?
No
yes
no , he does less dmg
now I’m broke to do tales
I’d pick Jarldoom!
I will go with the one i dont have to complete the book and get runes
Aight
Does anyone here happen to have fennevyrs move set? I'm trying to figure out whether or not he'd be a good support
Mediocre
Oh
Do you, mayhaps, have the actual move descriptions? As much as I appreciate your opinion I'd kinda like to make my own opinion about it /gen
Wow, the moves still don't have descriptions on what they do. Such an Incredibly useful wiki. Thank you for sharing this with me though, I really appreciate it
Ill send mine. Brb
Oh thank you
Oh thank you man, I really do appreciate you showing me this.
You were right that is pretty mid
Best healer rn is actually Carpovac
Is Shallinar really all that?
She is arguably top 2
Wow over Hounen? How come?
We have yet to test her tbh
But she might be better
Wow, so worth investing then
Crazy
She might be flat out better than hounen depending on her AI
She got an upgraded thousand lanterns , a mini thousand lanterns along with area triple damage as usual and the mask relic slot as well
Atleast top 3
We have high hopes for her in bh let's see though
Is it recommended or possible to continue the infinite chain without proud son
iMigbo, Lux Aura or vice versa, Children’s Game, Mom’s Magic
Or is proud son still too strong to remove
I think proud son is a great skill, probably irreplaceable
Ty!
@eager flare her ai seems cooked
Here's the catch bro she runs her basic 4 moves i think
We can switch skillset
Yeah thats true
I think removing her per skill is necessary for bh she always does that first pretty much i think
Then putting 3 support skills and one skill which she doesn't use
Can make her work pretty much
Only issue we need her to not ult
Yeah just not whatever she tries spamming on watson
Are the war masters ever worth getting?
No 👎
Is there any way to get klepto now the tales challenge is over
Except buying him
No you can get him in the next era
Like in 4 months and 3-4 days
Alright ty
Tho I am trying to complete the Easter book
You can't complete it
If u don't have cottontail
Thought so, thank you
Is my team decent for pvp ? I am currently in gold 2
Furnyssa rank 5, Electrorex rank 4 and Ember rank 1,
Yes
Good 4 gold 2
How many cells are from r3 to r5 on a mythic?
7k
Fr?
Yh
am i cooking
Yessir
Woah 1600 stars and 14k mp
Which monster is better jock or neuroshock?
Neuro
Is JJ Good still?
Not in pvp, sometimes it can be good in wars
So, for the time being, is there an Architect Monster who is not worth it to get?
canine is very situational, 8f you are only playing pvp you only need like 3 ancestors
Ik this doesn’t really have much to do with discussing monsters but I just wanted to share my progress. The first image is now vs in march.
Was also wondering if I could do better for my attack and defense team, help would be appreciated.
How about using roguenec in defense as a support/control? He can be pretty handy with stamina removal and canine and kaliber are already good
Try ranking them up
Who's better for bh if I don't have fgk charm or pyrotto?
Or dakua or even other monster
what do I even do in this situation, bro deafeated me so bad I have to quit the game 
Your stamina drain and stamina leak makes him loose 100% stam every move
That's actually hilarious omg
How does this even happen
I didn't understand what happened at the time unfortunatly 😔
Was wondering if I should invest into Katia or nah. I have Jock and ember is on the way. Was looking for some advice
focus on hounen or shallinar imo
Yeah I’ll prolly try to get them next
considering what you have they are better investments than katia
Peak the account what yall think
I’ll be getting better monsters hopefully but I like to play for fun
I could use some advice. I got my vault full of mostly epics and legendaries. Should I delete all my epics?. I can see a point in keeping my legendaries and mythics and ancestrals but should I still make room for my epics? Keep in mind my mp is 179k and my level is 150. Thank you in advance.
This chart will be helpful
Can anyone help me make a team out of these monsters
Lowkey get newer monsters firstq
