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ill upload it now and see if i can grind for like a low .6 or .5 or smth tomorrow
could be better but well see
verified it
im surprised
i still dont think the one in city is worth it enough
i will only believe in it if somebody can consistently get a 15.6 lap time in a normal run using this route
1 boost per lap
wait lowk what if on city at the last ramp you go around it to the right instead of left
hi
dude that one guy even if he didnt find the correct skip for city opened a lot of new doors for certian maps
i choked the last lap
Amazing
a 58.382 or something is possible
and now I had to get Le Bounce twice on the last lap
wouldve been on .4 pace
Bro this is crazy
this run was NOT clean š„
the first lap was tho
thats pretty close to perfect too since afaik second lap can be done only like .050 faster and last lap can be done .150 faster and that first lap is the fastest first lap ive seen so far
btw i really think you should try using first boost at the start since ive tried getting 24.588 3 seperate times on first lap using that and im nowhere near as good as you
i dont think its faster
i might have tried using it before and i didnt get anything better than like a .6
Okay WTF
yes
I did not expect that at ALL
sub 1:11.5 possible !? lmfao
okay i kind of lied
oh did you use 2 boosts
my muscle memory kicked in cause i might have used 2 boosts on that lap
oh xd
EPIC TROLL
ya i dont think its faster
ok
btw i just recorded a .528 with what i was doing originally
.528 first lap
nice
ah
was wondering where i could get more info on kart bros
cuz tbh
i could give a LOT of constructive critisicm as someone who got 70+ wins and played it several times on other accounts too
as in
i was assuming there'd be a lot more info on kart bros here
or just people who actually play the game
pretty fun to me tho tbh
it has a speedrun.com page
i found a MEAN shortcut on garden (an unintentional one, not the mushroom shortcut)
the rake one?
that one, didn't know other people knew it tbh
i figured it out while hunting for shortcuts myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CueVfMjGQfc you should see this run
sadly couldnt find any untintentional shortcuts outside of the obvious ones
and a certain oasis cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWO5e_HbpQ i made this video a while back though it is very outdated by now weve found more
Credits go to new main acc (me), Dug, CamelCAce, Zulcan, ., and magincho_05918
Join the Blue Wizard Discord if you have a new shortcut that isn't in this video
discord.gg/bluewizard
Also join the Kart Bros runners Discord
discord.gg/AsNZNzxGFe
speedrun.com page: www.speedrun.com/KartBros
ooo
i play it safe on the 1 boost oasis cut
i go to the other side of the bridge
its not hard to do it the fast way tho
just watch till the end the best ones are at the end
whats your favourite and least favourite map
my favorite is clouds least favorite is garden
cus clouds is broken as fuck and garden is indestructible
cuz i DESPISE clouds ngl
why
i use to hate garden but the rake cut made me tolerate it more
i have a 39 second time on clouds btw did you know that
its so janky in a casual race, more often than not falling off sends you FURTHER
my fav is space
ye thats broken too
i hate clouds the most as well
also is it just me or
is jungle a kinda mid finale
like imo it should be desert or space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEy4agkaTTw btw PLS look at this run its hilarious
Run done by new main acc on Discord (me)
This is the recorded Any% world record on Clouds
I'm still in shock after this. I did it š„¹. I got the glitch twice, got the first sub 40, and broke the WR. This is my greatest achievement ever. Sorry for the terrible recording.
Join the Blue Wizard Discord if you have a better time
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because when doing skipless runs theres a part where cutting a corner saves you like 0.2 seconds IIRC and is very important
skimmed through it and MY GOD-
however it is relatively precise to pull off and it ends a lot of runs
honestly just go to the speedrun.com page and view every world record there are some crazy shit there
btw as much as i love the game
i gotta admit
the character balancing is kinda buns
atleast imo
i've been cooking a lot of crazy times as of recently š¤«
ye egg solos everything
i use invader zip until i unlock skullface
(broc o lee sometimes but hes literally just a reskin of invader)
except on oasis where hawt dog is best
you unlock egg before him tho and egg is better
he's just egg but on a wheelchair tbh
i get skullface first wdym
i got skullface at 41 and egg at 47
true
but ngl the stat spike from skullface compared to everyone before him is DIABOLICAL
alsoo
the main elephant in the room for me is
quite a few characters you unlock are just direct downgrades to alr unlocked guys??
COUGH elvy swivel COUGH
-# i like bullying normal cpus
i like this game :D
regardless of flaws
atp im just talking to myself lo
niceeee
what r some cheat codes in jart bros
There are a few š
bigbrainz stachetime and devmode
ohh
i only klnew the first two
imma try that one out š
devmode is insane
ooo
wym
like
some of the other stuff
cuz i just tested out the give boost thing
i went to infinity and beyond in mountain š
WAIT.
YOU CAN MISSILE TO AI BEHIND YOU?
HELL YEHA
oh wait
its them bombing me, not me bombing them
damn
atleast i can spam tornado (what i believe to be the worst item imo)
to make everyone go flying
where do i type em in?
question
are you able to use debug mode in servers
cuz it'll be really funny to mess around
i think so
havent tested tho
...wanna find out
not rn ;-;
ah mk
as of now
i wanna figure out how to make a suggestion
can someone
test smth with me
-# ping me if your interested i might not see it otherwise
ive tried devmode against my friends before it works
so you kind of have to check if someone's using devmode or not
btw also can we do something against lightning cycle
like in a race against friends you can bag and get infinite lightnings its annoying
Thatās why I stopped racing w friends
Too many trolls
my favorite map is garden, least favorite is clouds,
why š¢
FACTS
fav map is garden least fav is space (very controversy ik)
Bro crazy hot takes: favorite is dessert ( skips are awesome and the design is the best imo in the whole game) and least favorite is mountain (boring gameplay, mid design ( a mountain and a rover are it with like two turns) and no tech or skips imo)
desert is one of my favs asw
space is really the only track i dislike
i like mountain's visual design but the track itself is kinda mid, there are also some buggy spots
desert is a peak map and peak skip, peak turns, peak visuals, peak
one of my other favorites is oasis just because it was my first skip
and i also figured it out independently outside of watching others
desert is like
semi good for me
i like mountainās simplicity
i hate clouds so much
and i love space
its my fav
garden was my second most hated till i found the cut, i thought it was too tedious
if u stack like 100 mines in devmode u go flying
Same
yeah desert is fun, and while mountain is boring, it makes sense as a starter 3 mpa
It used to be more of a circle but we needed to add the one chicane.
lightning cycle, anyone?
I know and I really appreciate the turns, but it still isnāt my favorite still
Can be done without dev mode
@rose musk your snow skipless wr just got tied by santaclaus
damn
lol
Iām lowkey gonna start playing it later also
Itāll be another fun three way race
it is now time to Lock In
Here comes the sub 58.4 from luasoft
Okay wtf
wtf
wtf
I wasnāt even screen recording, this like my tenth run on my momās MacBook (sheās out rn)
wtf
This is def a fluke
I havenāt even gotten sub 58.8 pace other than this
Iām in shock
the 2nd lap definitely is cause that's as good as i can get it usually
sure
that wr didnt last long xd
weirdly enough he actually used 2 boosts on the first lap
his lap times were 19.650, 19.666 and 19.116
last lap is absolutely cooked
for a single lap run should you do it on lap 2 or 3 or does it not matter
I think this is the fastest lap three/two ever recorded with oneboost
Still only like an hour of play btw
W
i always do lap 2 just because im too lazy to do 1 extra lap every run
does it matter though?????
i dont think it does
it doesnāt
okay
yes dunkinduck
it doesnt matter, i just too impatient to do an extra lap just to absolutely bomb 3rd lap
Bro sneaky dunkinduck just cooked my jungle single lap wr
Thatās why you were asking about some 2nd or 3rd lap
thatās me
how do u jump
how do u do that
bounces happen either randomly usually on inclined surfaces or when going to/from the edges of a track
the only thing these bounces are useful for is for skips otherwise they slow you down a bit
yeah im trying to do them on purpose so i can skip on snow
i never did it but the way i see it is that you need to slam towards the edge of the track which is slightly elevated from the ground
to get the upward momentum
well i broke kartbreaker's single lap wr
btw have yall noticed on speedrun.com the active players are decrasing, it was at 41 but now its 3
35
BTW, first look at my corals for the underwater coral reef track. I'm really excited with this, and started it on school computers.
looks incredible
thank you!
BTW, the second reef has a secret path/shortcut which is why one of the layers is just mini corals
ohhh niceeeee
i love the deth and varity of the corals
how do you make it show the difference between like hard an soft coral
š®
I used soft pastel colors and āshade smoothā to make sure it looks clean for the soft coral, where as the hard corals are all planes and lines with deep colors and shaders.
niceeeeeee
are you hoping to get these into the game?
Yeah weāll see
their cool models my main critque is that they dont fit the style of the game
I know wizups definitely doesnāt make stuff in Blender so it might be weird but it will be really cool if I can
which is very low poly and pixelated
faith is their 3d artist
you could honestly decimate some of the coral just to make it look more jagged
I tried to make most of the corals low poly and pixelated. Thx for the advice
but for those shelves they need less detail imo
it could be something as simple as this tbh
Aight thx
lmaoo
I've never played this game before lol
Yall are making new tracks without me? š tbf the game got blocked at my school
š
suprised no ones beat my desert wr yet
wow
but to be fair the 1st lap cut is painfully precise
W
cuz you have to boost off the rail to get that little bit of extra height
but its so bad it feels like luck
you seem really good at it
nah it took me straight hours of attempts for each successful run
W for not giving up
thx
Run done by Dug on Discord
This is the recorded Any% world record on Desert
Join the Blue Wizard Discord if you have a better time
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Also join the Kart Bros runners Discord
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Not sure if you can post that here but nice
Are external links prohibited I havenāt been on the server for months
Yes, they are
so apparently no videos here of any kind then?
kind of an overstep considering that I've posted several already and nobody gave two shits
I would assume it's no harm no foul
itās just the rules lol
the rules say no unnaproved links. pretty sure youtube is approved since we post yt links here all the time and wizups and harrison dont mind at all
Approved are only that are authorised š ( Content Creator links)
dude. the only rule that even mentions links are the no self advertisements rule. youtube links obviously dont break that rule. are we completely deadass right now
wizbot also already enforces this rule. if you fx. post a discord invite, wizbot automatically deletes it. infact im pretty sure it deletes all unnaproved links. which just proves that youtube links are infact approved
@manic tundra Can you help them understand š
Only BWD CC links, BWD game links are allowed, anything that does not consist of that is not allowed.
also wiki i think
Thank you
They're supported with bwd so yes.
i mean the wiki website
Ohhh
Hypothetically though, we could still say, "hey check out my new vid on yt?" or would that count as self advertising?
BTW, can we still dos creenshots? Cuz this is the new fastest one boost lap on snow:
im still gonna send youtube links since ive been doing it for months and nothings happened
ye screenshots are ok
did you see my theoretical reef track? It looks so good
ye
wdyt
sorry this took so long, but would shelves like these be better?
self advertisement
so what can we say if we find a new skip or break a wr?
idk man ig
kinda hard to see in edit mode bbut it doesnt look bad, I would just look at the artstyle of the current assets and try and emulate that
tag @rose musk
yo the city any% wr just got demolished
47.291
he got the lag skip twice
so sub 47 is also possible lol
yeah i saw
lag skips are actually ruining the game. They've dropped jungle, city, and space world records.
yah
should i lowkey add a Glitch% category and move all glitch runs over to that
only preoblem is like what counts as a glitch and what doesnt
or should it be called like Lag% or LagSkip% for the shortcuts that need lag to work
major skips and no major skips
actually it should prob be called Glitchless% or NoLagSkip% or sum and it would work in like the same way as the Skipless% category since Any% is like the default do it as fast as you can in Any way
what would define that tho
cus the normal clouds skip skips like half the map but you can do it every time
the problem with lag skips is there is no way to get it consistently you just have to get lucky
I think a glitchless skip counts as something that you have to manipulate your game to make work. So OG clouds skip works, but the fact you had to put it in low power mode and record on a different device for the current wr means it is a glitch skip. I donāt know how to make you prove that you didnāt manipulate your game though
Also, the boost spot on city is really annoying me. Half the time I get a fast boost and the other its slow, anyone know how to to help me on it?
!bros
Are you ready to try em all and become the best?
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this might be my best run in this game of all time
I think it is
The best run in the game
With my fastest paces and this, only improvable by .05 seconds give or take
DAMn
the parts that slow you down the most are the offroad sections
Whoa really? š
while doing runs you can get bounces when going through them which gain you speed compared to just driving on them
you need to be extremely lucky to pull that off but if you do
ye
like a 0.05 improvement on one lap
Iāll try and beat it
actually there is one small bounce at the end
i got bailed out
I'll upload the run tomorrow i think cause i have to go sleep soon anyway
Crazy take: Snow is one of if not the most fun track to actually play on. The turn in the center is unlike any other in the game, the ramp skip is 'difficult', but easy after like ten playthroughs, the turns are fun, it's a great feeling track
real
Actually I'm gonna take a break from snow. I've got big things planned for something completely different...
could we just do a skipless single lap, adds a bit more variety
!bros
Are you ready to try em all and become the best?
https://kartbros.io/
https://basketbros.io/
https://footballbros.io/
https://baseballbros.io/
https://wrestlebros.io/
https://karatebros.io/
https://soccerbros.gg/
snow video is up
nice
verified
Did yall see the new desert skip I found? Itās entirely useless for time trials but could be useful in an actual race
Plus if you do it with two boost you save one for the real skip later
wdym by its only useful for races
For like raves against other people where you can pull boosts and triple boosts after the skip
This makes it quicker to get back to the original skip.
Itās only five seconds slower than the og skip so still some use for real races. But Iām kinda grasping at straws. Itās most likely useless
i actually kinda already knew about that one and wanted to reveal when i eventually make an updated video with every kart bros shortcut but i got lazy but nice find
gg dragolin
just beat your ancient any% wr
now its no longer the oldest still standing wr
real
the oldest still standing wr is now my candyland any% run of 1:03.591
so thats what you have to train if u want ur wr back dragolin
xd
ye
oof i dont think dragolin is getting the oldest still standing wr record any time soon, since his oldest still standing wr rn is from january 14th so thats a lot of wrs to break
my current times
i lowk have a challenge for u. get the first sub 1 minute desert time. rn the best time that has ever been achieved on desert is a 1:00.851 by dug(not on cam tho). his sum of best laps is 1:00.249 so it seems possible with more optimal driving
unfortunately i suck ASS at shortcuts
rip
i have attempted it before and i couldnt make it happen
u did get the wr on oasis tho
maybe i can try now
thats cause a toddler can make that shortcut
i was planning on getting a 44.8 and i just kinda Forgor about it
real
you wont have the oldest wr in the game anymore tho
Iāve actually had a lot better paces and broke the wr but didnāt upload it. But true that yours is older
And I have Cartland skips but weāll see
Hate
But my single lap city is really good and can probably stay for a long time
I just have to beat every wr to till it
the third oldest wr in the game is also by me lol so if you want to get me off the throne you have to beat 2 wrs
@rose musk can u submit that we of you beating oasis any percent lol? I canāt get oasis skip fast
Wr
has recording of vc from private group chat so no
oof space any% and desert any% are gonna be really tough
even sub 1:47 is possible
only after like 10 minutes
@reef vapor how do you get Oasis Skipless that fast? Garden and Boardwalk I understand, but Oasis is killing me. How?
damn thats crazy cus i actually thought my oasis skipless time was really unoptimized
ig just try to turn as tight as possible around that loop. i know sub 1:09 is possible so go for that
Broooo
Not my fault we alll have our maps. Im terrible on the skip on Oasis also
And I don't need sub 1:09, I just need it to be decent so I can get rocket skipless wr
Wow. the first shortcut run was just done on mountain
if only counting time trials skips then boardwalk is still skipless
can we like get a category against glitches, like it's impossible to beat someone if they just god tier lag cuts
i mean there's cutless
hm
Hmm maybe like any, glitchless, skipless
this is the worst submission i have ever seen oh my fucking god
lol

Sigh
not recording
NO FING WAY
3 min later
RAAAAAH
That is on recording but its ass
GOT IT
FINALLY
not the fastest lap though, I can work on that later
That was lowkey only an hour of grinding
Nice man

the one with 2 boosts?
bro
how can you do the one on snow but not the one on candyland š candyland is like 1000000x easier
NO ITS NOT
their same difficulty
its the same movement and boost timing and everything
hell no i can get the candyland one every time. the timing window isnt even that hard like even if you use boost to early you still get in the air unlike on snow
candyland ledge is also way bigger
true
but its the same movemnt for me
I just can't do it and its pissing me off
The two boost one is gonna be so abd
once you get the hang of it you can start getting it up to 5 times a day xd
it took me 4 days to get the 1:03 on candyland btw
thank u btw
I'm up to 50% consistency for no reason rn
the chat must've helped
But also, it is possible to improve your candyland time
your second lap cna be improved by .4 seconds give or take, and the final lap by .3 with my best times
good luck
...
BNOOO
dude
actually on our case
your not forced to read š
The people who type here are
..
zero people actively type here
Just keep this place clean and keep your rule-breaking out of this server
we are not breaking any rules
please if you are jelous just join
I'm not going to spell it out any more than I already have, if you keep continuing, you will be muted
:(
you guys are trying to find our chats
what did we do
we talked
you're literally just jelous
they are thirstyy
get out poke
dont let them win
@solar raft also uh you shouldnāt be spamming this channel with ur nonsense meant for suggestions/bugs for kart bros
we might have to suwwnder to daddy hayden
wait no
oramge water is daddy
where were we
both are daddy
dyde
so how are you enjoying kart bros
when i play it every day its so fun
pismopablo muted orange_water indefinitely Reason: you can come back when youāre ready to stop..
ive been a good boy
me too
im not a part of this
peace and love
#freeorangewater
#freeorange
#water
@hot dagger I think ill let you off with a warning since you havenāt caused as much trouble as OW
what about daddy poke :)
just talking to talk btw
Tf
Bro itās to early (for me) for this
what did he do ?
Oh that was last night
what happened ?
Kept going with something he was warned to stop multiple times.
Ah ok i see
Thx for the answer
someone tell me why there is no information about the secret kartbros names
online
i unlocked so many but i dont remember and theres no way to check them
there used to be a dev one
i remember
stachetime, bigbrainz and devmode
Ok guys, Iāve been asked how to do lag skips and what they are so many times, should I just make a vid on it? I have a decent theory on them
It could be decent
is it anything more than just checkpoint stuff?
Slightly. I believe the lag actually moves arounf the lakitu zones, not neccessarily checkpoints.
This is becuase on jungle I can phase through lakitu zones with lag. On Space, you can create lag skips that aren't even there normally. Therefore, while the checkpoint stuff also gets messed up, it's mostly the zones that are weird. I also have a hypothesis that the moving of these zones causes their checkpoints to be dragged with it, and therefore swap places with other checkpoints and zones. The only way to truly test this out would be tryoing to get REVERSE lag skips, which proves that the checkpoints just switch, but I'm too lazy to go for it rn, and I'm pretty sure that this is right, so ima just go with it.
And in the vid I'd actually talk about how to get good lag skips, which people need explaining on
yea you should make a vid
aight ill get working on it later
OMG. I think I found a prqctical boardwalak skip.
By driving slightly off the road on the first possible turn off for boardwalk, and getting the two boost candyland skip, with a third at peak height and you can clear the lakitu zone. This could save like ten seconds. I can't do it though, I'm terrible at candyland type skips. You wanna give it a go @reef vapor ?
idk man ive tried for a while now and this is the closest ive gotten
it seems no matter how far you go theres some wall stopping you
i even tried it on devmode using infinite boosts i cant get it
i could do this tho
and i got this weird (lag?)skip too
Intresting. The lag skip obviusly isnt practical, but how can the triple mine get through and not th boost? We must just not get enough height. Thx for trying though
how do i give myself infinite boost
call yourself 'devmode'. A pop up bar will appear on your right. Find give boost or triple boost. Install an autoclicker on it. Be prepared to hit space a lot.
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@fallen steppe ^
NOOOOO. My whole side quest to beat a bunch of times (to get the oldest recors in kart bros) is useless! Real Blue Salt beat my city single lap. I think Im going to take it down.
you still have ancient single lap tho which is older than your city single lap
sorry
nah its part of the game. Plus, you've been going for it for a while.
@reef vapor did I not submit the rocket cup skipless run?
i just verified that
it wasnt that bad
can sum1 pls submit any 40 second run
lol no its just from the speedrun.com stats page showing how much time all kart bros runs added together is. i have already watched it all
Wow. We need another mod bro. Nobody should watch that much kart bros
when do you think the next's update?
its over the course of 124 days xd thats on average just ~6.08 minutes dedicated to watching kart bros a day
I guess. And you also played for maybe a half hour of those runs, so maybe itās less than I think.
kart
So cool to see - I wonder if we could add some kind of reward in for the fastest times
š
Im listening @cosmic coyote
lol, good luck!
somebody to play BasketBros? https://www.crazygames.com/it/game/basketbros?czy_invite=true&utm_source=invite&roomId=DAABE299
BTW, @reef vapor are you taking a break from the game rn? I haven't seen you upload any vids recently.
just focusing on other things rn and i dont have much storage left on my pc to record
For basketbros you want #ššā½ā¾šć»all-bros
Decent run
I know Santa Claus and I both have better runs though
The fact that it was first rep is pretty crazy though
yo thats wild
Fastest I got. Really unfortunate ramp slowdown. I got a crazy 16.521 first lap once, and my pb for a lap is a 15.537, so my fastest possible pace is around 47.595 human limit rn as far as I know is a 47.553
Ill rep some more later tongiht but i need a break rn
(BTW, I have not been playing for 10 hours straight lol. I just played for like an hour, and these ramp slowdowns lap three are KILLING me)
sub .8 still a ways to go though
Why am I locked in today? Snow first lap (Skipless) PB maybe WR?
I actually think I found a new strat that makes snow faster...
u guys actually sweat this?
they have since day 1
XD
Finally. I think this can be improved by like .16 seconds give or take, but I'm fine with this. This is all unofficial lol, my computer is being way too laggy to actually let me run real pace on screen recording.
What is it? š¤
I got a random 100% fluke airtime once that saved ~0.06 by skipping snow (and gave me a 19.032 best lap since it was also a good lap otherwise). But that's useless as a strat since it's not repeatable
Nice work on City
Thx. I want to bag the WR, but I'm happy to race you. Basically, on turn three, if you get good alignment into turn four, you can do it slideless and it saves around .05 seconds. Bumps also save a lot of time but their inconsistent (look at Luasoft's wr cuz he gets a bump last turn lap 3 lol)
Oo I was trying that last week but I wasn't sure if it saved as an actual strat
As opposed to saving because being on a line that allows it basically means you got the previous turn near-optimally
But I can believe the number
sorry for interrupting but i might have found an even faster strat for city first lap that still uses 2 boosts https://youtu.be/5zJcRbWox1Y
also is my first intentional wall tap in kart bros
I also feel like, with that strat, boosting at the start of lap 1 has to be optimal
Because it saves ~0.45
And with the luasoft WR line I already thought boosting out of that turn saves less than 0.45, but there's probably scenarios where if you time the boost perfectly it's actively helping you exit the turn on a good line and maybe it can save 0.45 like that
But if you do the slideless line I think it's less, marginally less but still less
I tried to make that happen and couldn't
And I'm still not convinced it's actually the strat, but this is definitely a much better attempt than any I had
It is definitely optimal (but devilishly hard) on Candyland
We will probably have to re-explore it on other booster ramp maps also
This is good intel. I din't know that boosts save .45 sec. Boosting start of lap one was always intresting for me. I always thought that this isn't like 200 cc MK8DX so you wouldn't have too, and its really helpful getting you to make turns without sliding, but boosting at start could be faster. I'll try this later, I just have a couple of other projects that I'm working on rn. Please try it, I would lobve to see if these combined starts are fast/.
I feel like this game needs a speedometer
Well Well Well
I've been trying to make this potentially work on snow, and it just isn't going to work at all. However, desert (especially since its on a downhill) actually feels a lot faster, even though it at most saves .02 seconds. Candyland is roughly the same as desert, but much more difficult and probably saves even less time.
Actually, scratch that, its still slower on desert, even if you get it perfect (I compared to your wr pace)
@cosmic coyote Not to speak for the whole community here, but to me it feels like the speedrunning committee is dying. SantaClaus is on break, Luasoft's barely touching the game anymore, I feel like I'm taking more and more breaks (haven't touched the game in like five days now), is there an update coming? With new tracks and potentially new mechanics, I just feel like its starting to get boring
Obviously there are other players, but just off the top of my head nobodies doing anything
I got bored of being on break and dropped 4:54.6 lightning cup, now I'm back on break šŗ
Lightning cup can definitely still go much lower though
they neeeeed to make harder bots i dont have any friends to play with
ong bro. we need new tracks so bad
K, just watched Santaās new Aincent wr, and I think hawt dog might actually be faster. Hear me out: first, we donāt know how much faster four speed is than three, if it use a whole quarter of a lap faster, than obviously egg will still be faster, but that seems hella broken, so itās prolly just a little bit quicker (and my best splits are only a bit faster than his.) plus, his last lap is .5 seconds faster than eggs because of how the finish line is set up. So, there is a very real possibility that hawt dog is a bit faster maybe on aincent
My sum of best laps with hawt dog is 1:28.6 (34.300/33.299/21.033)
But my segmented sum of best (best first/second/third segment every lap) would be more like 1:28.1 or thereabouts
And since I haven't grinded that much, even that almost certainly has enough wiggle room that high 1:27 is theoretically possible with Hawt Dog
So that would be the target time to beat with Egg for Egg to be theoretically faster
And yeah I'm not sure Egg can do that
(A related question is if Hawt Dog or Egg is faster for Jungle skipless. I kind of want to say Egg is faster but only because of better acceleration at the start of lap 1, and after that they're basically even)
Actually we can probably quantify Egg's potential with reasonable accuracy
IIRC the fastest confirmed start I've had with Egg is 14.299 to the booster including startboost (I may have had a faster one on one extremely quick start that accidentally wasn't recorded, but, well...)
I generally default to assuming startboost saves 0.45 until confirmed otherwise
In this case when I tried timing the actual start it felt like it saved less than 0.45, but somehow the laps always ended up half a second slower anyway which could be just my rhythm getting thrown off; but it could also just be my timing of the start was off
So let's just default to the default and say you hit the booster at 14.75
(I am 100% sure faster is possible, I'm not trying to construct an ultimate perfect run here but rather something roughly comparable in quality to the 1:28.1 Hawt Dog sum of best segments)
The next segment I have minimal data for because 99% of my Egg runs are skipless and take a longer path, but Dragolin in his 1:29.7 takes 8.6 booster-to-booster
Since it's a very simple segment without much going on, let's just add that on as is and round it down to 23.3 (I have actually got here in at least 23.4 and maybe lower, so the math is at least roughly checking out)
For the end my best segment is a 10.6, but I also have 10.15 with endboost and I don't see how endboost saves more than 0.4 before line since some of the timesave spills over to the next lap
So let's say 10.55 = 33.85 opener with Egg
Lap 2 best start is 13.768 but that is with some boost spillover which we wouldn't get here
On the other hand the typical difference between L1 and L2 does tend to be 0.9-1.0, and the bulk of the boost gain is before the line
So let's say 13.8 is possible, that would give 32.9 L2
L3 we bring back the 13.8, Dragolin takes 7.45 from there to finish which I have no idea how good that is, let's just say 7.4 is good
So we would have 33.85-32.90-21.2=1:27.95 theoretical extremely good but not perfect run
Which is basically a long way to say Egg and Hawt Dog are roughly equal probably
Love the deep dive and emerging strats!
update the game plsssssssssssssss
What are the things you would like to see most?
more tracks, a speedometer and an option to skip the race intro for example
i made a suggestion a while ago with a list of ideas for tracks imma see if i can find it rq
Ghosts for time trials would be amazing
FR
Keyboard shortcut equivalent to clicking the "reload currently played track" icon (or documenting the existing keyboard shortcut if there already is one for that)
Re: ideas for new tracks. One staple of other kart/racing games (especially Mario Kart) that hasn't been done in Kart Bros yet is moving obstacles
Would add some extra spice to a new track
Though moving obstacles do have some potential downsides
One is the increased demand on resources/computing power, they cause lag in some Mario Kart games and I could see them potentially causing lag in Kart Bros also (Space has shooting stars and it feels like one of the most lag-prone tracks though it still runs smoothly most of the time on my PC, others directly harness the lag š )
The other is that if you never need to wait for the moving obstacles or go wide to dodge the moving obstacles they're not really that interesting; but if you do need to wait for them or go wide to dodge them, then either they're moving randomly which can be incredibly frustrating, or they're moving on cycles/along a predetermined path which introduces the risk of pacelock (where at certain points being faster doesn't really matter, because the faster run loses the advantage waiting or going wide, while a slightly slower run gains the time back by having a more favorable part of the cycle that does not require straying from the optimal line)
But I think they can be implemented well
Like the trains from Kalimari Desert in Mario Kart 64
Where the optimal strategy involves going under a tiny moving gap between the carriages on lap 3, and depending on your pace you may need to go more wide or less wide, but either way you stay on the road and don't lose very much time going wide so it's not a full-on pacelock
Here's the example clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiH-mvufB94&t=97
god damn
Certainly want to avoid any kind of slow down. Kart Bros is awesome because it can run competitively on almost any computer
Thanks tho guys! Will report all of the to the main dev
Nice
It's always tough! Most players of course are not the 1% of you super fast and engaged speedrunners but that doesn't mean there are not great ideas here.
We also wanted to add in some emojis to all public lobbies, so you can not only emote while waiting for a lobby to start but during a race using the 1-10 buttons. This feature would be used by almost everyone (even bots occasionally).
This will turn the game evil. Not a bad idea though at all. It would be really funny if you lap someone and genuinely hit a shhhgh emoji on them
update i got 16.166
looks like 47.5 (16.1 15.5 15.9) on skipless is possible
47.5 skipless is possible without that strat though
Both with Dragolin's strat of doing the finish straight boost 3 times, and with startboost+2x finish straight boost
IIRC fastest lap 1 with finish straight boost only is 16.50? And fastest lap 1 with startboost+finish straight boost is something sloppy, but fastest lap 1 with old strat is 16.116 and that should be no faster than endboost strat even with some of the endboost spilling to L2
That said your strat almost certainly does give the highest potential for lap 1
The real question is how fast the transition into lap 2 is
Can you actually do a 15.5 off this lap start?
At a minimum though I do believe you could do startboost+2x finish straight boost+this strat on lap 3 and that unlocks 47.3-47.4
I'm not saying that's necessarily optimal, that depends on how fast the start of the next lap can be with your strategy
My best paces are 16.504 first lap and like a 16.506 second/third lap. So theoretically the fastest pace for my splits is a 47.516, it can probably go much faster though
I theorized a 47.4xx as the limit I could be wrong though
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are they gonna add public lobbies
elo and ranked when?
elo would be kind of weird with all the skips
how many levels r there ? i'm on 61 for 5h already
69
how do u submit the screenshot ?
Win a race as the Blue Wiz to earn the @šļøSpeed Demon role!
is this still actual ?
so level 70 is for wizard unlock
69
hi
kart-brosss
yes
One thing I forgot from the list of suggestions - lap time and finish time interpolation
This has existed in most racing games going back decades, and basically simply means that instead of just looking at which frame you cross the finish line on, you add a few lines of code that look at your positions before and after, estimate from those what percentage of the movement was required to actually reach the line, and allocate that portion of the tick to the lap before and the rest of the tick to the lap after (or just dump the rest if there is no lap after)
bug ?
i'm on level 23 ( in 30min) and i
I'm on first map with 1 person I choice. keep playing again same map and it unlocks Flags and new characters .. planning on going till the end
ok
ye but it could be like mkwii where some cuts are allowed (skill based) and some are banned (lag cuts/luck)
so like the desert cuts would be allowed for example so would snow and garden but i think cuts like the triple mine space cuts should be banned
last thing i want is bagging as a dominant competitive strat
So Hawt Dog and Egg are equal on Oasis single lap also š£
Doesn't hawt Dog just take that? I remember when I first held that record and it wasn't recorded anywhere and I wouldn't tell anyone I was using Hawt Dog haha
Could be Hawt Dog's faster and I'm just bad at the Hawt Dog cut
But then I'm also bad at the Egg cut
Anyway to me it feels like both have low 13.1x/high 13.0x potential, could be one or the other goes lower depending on how smoothly the cut can be done
how would you ban skips tho
most of the luck based skips involve intentionally going out of bounds to get respawned at a much later point in the track
the lag would be like unplayably bad in public lobbies tho
like ive played with 5 of my friends when we were all right next to each other and with 50 ms ping and sometimes we would get randomly teleported halfway across the map
or it would simply crash
I've thought a bit about public lobbies, but something like space is impossible to abvoid with the skips. Even if you intentionally go out of bounds to try and get the skip, I also go out of bounds to dodge the blue shell/white skull. There's not really anyway to counter it, so it wouldn't be viable to ban out of bounds or anything. I just don't think it will work for rn
16.084 and then i choked :(
nvm 16.046 and new pr of 48.101
im lowk .102s off the wr
.304 off unofficial
i just need to get like a 15.7 2nd lap
YEAH!
THATS SO GODO
yall know what the best racers for each map are?
egg
except if you're doing that skip on oasis then hawt dog
oh tysm
how many wins is egg again?
iirc 65
its 70 for all upgrades
around that amount
yeah
70 gets you blue wiz i think
the thing is though you can just open devmode and then spam increase by 1 win to get all the upgrades
wait thats lwk genius
its a chat code for devmode or am i mistaken
its where you put your name
like on the homescreen at the bottom
just remember to reload if youre doing runs so that devmode is off
ohhhhhh
yeah probably a good idea lol
tysm man
wait i forgot to ask but what exactly is the name for devmode
oop nvm found it XD
Egg is 47 wins iirc?
And yeah Egg is optimal more or less everywhere
Hawt Dog and Egg are basically equal on Jungle skipless, Ancient 3lap shortcut and Oasis SC flap
Hawt Dog is optimal on Oasis 3lap shortcut, Clouds SC flap and Ancient SC flap
(there's some other categories where I'm Hawt-Dog-curious like Candyland SC flap and Jungle SC 3lap/flap, just too bad at the game to test those properly)
i just did a city skip that landed me right on the 2nd ramp instead of behind the finish line š
Are there any other cheat codes besides "bigbrainz" (that makes your head bigger) and "stachetime" (that adds a mustache to the characters)?
devmode opens debug menu and dev menu
this is like an ancient scroll to a semi-new player like me
tbh the only shortcuts i currently can do are the oasis one (but only w/2 boosts) and the garden rake skip with no boost
although i know abt ancient skip with 3 boosts
Thanks
How do you know about the aincent skip? lol. imo that's the most niche. There are also boosted skips on Snow, candyland, jungle, clouds, desert, space; lag skips on space, city, mountain, and (assumed boardwalk and all other maps too), with mine skips on snow, candyland, space, desert and basically all maps as well. I might be forgetting a few, so watch New Main Acc's vid on it.
city skip is a lag skip?
im not intentionally lagging my computer so i guess my computer is just bad š
yeah same here
the def of a lag skip ois just that you can't make it one hundred percent of the time even if you put in the exact same inputs. Are you a hundred percent from the city skip? This would rework my entire theory on lag skips
I've never hit city skip and I only get lag in random spikes
Always assumed it was a lag skip
Certainly though I'm not an authority on city skip
But just the fact that both the any% WR and single lap WR are giga-laggy suggests to me that it is a lag skip, or at least very significantly easier with lag
Because lag isn't really optimal for normal driving, so I'd expect the WR to be a run that hit the skip without lag if that were something that regularly happens
Unrelatedly: is the (old) Jungle cut just a very precise line or is it easier with lag?
Old like Dugās wr or like pre update game
Actually Iām an idiot. Neither are lag skips, both skill based
New wr by me is lag skips though
Nice City time, @rotund river! Is there something specific you're aiming for at the end booster?
ohh i see, yeah you're right its like <10%
or maybe <20% i havent been counting
thanks! nah i just mainly try to get a good curve that hits the corner of the booster, doesn't hit the ramp, and still gets relatively straight after the boost
its just experience from a lot of attempts
oh also you cant go too wide after the turn before or else you'll hit the ramp and get airtime
theres also sometimes random annoying airtime that messes up my alignment
Hey ya'll I would just like to apologize for not being as active lately. I've had finals which really put a damper in my schedule these last two weeks. Luckily, I only have two left, and by the end of this week I should be getting back to playing the game!
@merry nacelle @rapid mesa
yall playing
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also snek does subnautica require a download, and how much does it cost?
I don't think he's home im online bc I'm giving him a sheep hat code
He also got dm notifications off
w freind
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Subnautica 1 is 9.99 on steam Im pretty sure
9.99 CAD
aw
so expensive and my parents dont let me spend money on the computer which is kinda fair ig
I played it free on Epic awhile ago, and it was free on PSN ages ago too

I bought the whole steam pack š
Even though my computer cant run subnautica 2 or below 0 š
what do you do in it
the game i mean
I have prawn, cyclops, and seamoth and I have the boosters for the rocket ship
YOOOO
nsekkkkkk
Im currently looking for Kyanite
wait so how you play and what you do?
Wdym?
what do you do in the game
Well, I need to build a rocket ship to escape the planet
cool!
i wish it was free
Haha
No
i havent clicked on anythuign
I dont care!!!!!!!!!!
i dont trust it
im not i was just seeing what it cost
i definitly dont trust it
@merry nacelle you can install it for free from microsoft store im pretty sure
Dont think so
hm
Keep this channel kart bros relevant only
ohh
mb
i might talk to my parents to see if i can spend some of my job money on it
Subnautica channel now⦠
Yes sure Iāll be happy it an subnautica channel š
45 dollars is cheap for me on steam but Iāll wait go on sale on the late Christmas so it is cheaper
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hi
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Hello š
what's the OASIS world record of time trial
with skips or no?
do skips mean boost item?
not exactly
shortcut?
there's a shortcut which you can do using hawt dog which skips like more than half of the entire map
without the shortcut it's somewhere around a 1:09.0 if not lower
it hasn't been grinded that much and can still be improved a bit though
my record is 48.984 with shortcut!
well
the current wr with shortcut is 44.917
omg..
actually I'm the first person who found the shortcutš¤
there's an online video of a 44.932 or something by someone else
not sure if I can share it here otherwise some guy is gonna whoop me for sending YouTube links
You can dm each other:D
I retire this game!
me when i get competition again
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yea and you can also shave half a second off that as well
Damn
like a 1:33.6
the problem is that the map is Long and getting good times consistently is Hard
for me the most common first lap times for example are 32.1's and 32.2's
32.0's are rarer and getting a 31.9 is very hard despite the fact that i got a 31.884 or somewhere around that once
and that lap was EXTRA clean
probably the cleanest lap i've ever driven in garden
My problem is rake skip
I just bleed too much time there way too often
And I'm not even sure why, which makes it problematic to fix š£
Got 1:34.296 and 31.982-31.066-fail, then went back to skipless because the more I did the skip the worse I got at it
guys on mountain i missed the boost on the ramp, hit the vertical part of the landing and then the water, and i got lakitued to right behind the finish line, but it didn't count it as a lap
so i guess the water has a glitched lakitu area
Was this with lag?
yeah, I think New Main Acc has a vid of this.
All the maps are so janky with lag. I truly believe we need a glitch/less category becuase eventually all of the maps (aside from snow) are going to get lag skips I think. It's only a matter of time.
yea
Do we know why the lap didn't count
Is it because you failed to meet some requirement for the lap counting, or is it because at some point you crossed an extension of the finish line backwards and it deducted a lap?
we think it's becuase the player's egg hitbox came behind the finish line and then crossed it which cuased it to not count.
Yeah seems like it
if you look at the mini map you can see that before i get put down on the track i start infront of the finish line and go thorugh it backwards
i still believe this is how it works
Yeah, makes sense
Do you think it's possible to get the 10-second Clouds lap skip in such a way that it counts the lap up but not the lap down?
Considering that literally every other variation is possible (it counts both the lap up and the lap down, it counts only the lap down but not the lap up, it doesn't count either the lap down or the lap up)
And even some variation in where you get put down
Would allow a 3lap time around 35-36 seconds if it could be done
I tried that for literal hours one day
Iāve gotten the cut where it brings you back to the og spot, but it never counts as a second lap skip. This is a bad explanation, so lemme explain it better lol:
I got the fast cut lap 1 on clouds, and was brought back to the spot where I performed my cut. I then did the slower cut (technically lap 2) and passed the line cleanly and it didnāt count as a lap
I believe itās for the same reasons above, you cross the finish line with the fast cut, and then you go back behind the finish line which causes the next lap to be invalid
I wish I had a vid because Iām releasing this sounds like a crazy person
Yeah I know exactly what you mean
I was just wondering because the opposite of the desired outcome is possible (it never adds the lap but still deducts the lap)
Presumably because the inbound (driving through the air) and outbound (picked up) trajectories are slightly different
So that being possible gives me hope
yeah it might actually be possible cause i once actually did it but with infinite boosts