hunt-general

[empty eagle]

1 time purchase only in winter

ye

[chrome lintel]

I'll know what to spend 10 bucks on on Christmas then

Until then I'll stick with Bandit and Ghostface

But yeah no I hadn't ever played before and couldnt do the event

Also missed the second iteration of Post Malone I reckon

With the hood

[empty eagle]

ah

np

[chrome lintel]

But I'm hyped to follow the game for where it has to go from now on, I absolutely don't regret buying it

Just gotta get the hang of it now

[dim flame]

man

stuck in the loop of just

[chrome lintel]

I just don't really like the lack of mnk/crossplay cause I have to play solo AND on controller

[dim flame]

hunt die hunt die

[chrome lintel]

Me too brother, me too

[dim flame]

specter 1882

it does the job

and runnin the conversion also does the job good but

i get that bounty token

and im just erased

[chrome lintel]

Get that bounty token off of the corpse of someone else

The specter isn't great tho

[lime mural]

Whatsup with the server disconnecting today

[dim flame]

i have a few times

i know that

the slate is better

but its just got the goofy factor

[chrome lintel]

Wait I got it wrong

The specter is the lever action shotgun right?

[dim flame]

terminus

the specter 1882 is the cheapest of the repeating shotguns

[chrome lintel]

Okay no I was right then

[twilit cliff]

Hey so I'm still trying to find a gun that I really like, and I like how the sparks silencer feels, but I was looking for something that feels similar, but has more than one shot at a time?

[chrome lintel]

Ohhh yeah the pump action with the top opening

[dim flame]

yes

[timber cosmos]

What about the Sparks do you like

[whole furnace]

Krag Silencer, regrettably

[timber cosmos]

the damage? muzzle velocity? sights?

[lime mural]

Is Hunt down?

[twilit cliff]

It feels slim and easy to aim with personally

[wheat leaf]

im playing

[chrome lintel]

Yeah it's not great but considering I have a crossbow/axe loadout sitting around for memes

I cant be one to speak

[lime mural]

Looks like the Asia server is down

[nimble plover]

no they in NA servers atm

[raven totem]

149 at 500ms

sparks is fun, while most of the time repeating long all does the same thing but better it's quite budget and they have to respect you more on the repeak

[chrome lintel]

Just run the Springfield with dumdum and the "magazine" perk I forgot the name of to have 4 extra bullets ready to quick reload

Same effect, cheaper

Dumdum even gives a very good 1 shot potential

[raven totem]

similar, but not same, you don't wallbang

fast fingers btw

[chrome lintel]

Get a revolver with FMJ or HV to compensate and wallbang if they go to hide after getting hit

[chrome lintel]

Yes thank you I forgot

[raven totem]

all good

[dreamy cave]

Old hunt UI memory 🙏🏿

[vocal zodiac]

Is anyone else having issue’s getting blood bonds on xbox

[mortal cove]

Sparks is the "fuck around and find out" gun

[chrome lintel]

Why did I read this with an Australian accent

[mortal cove]

Hopefully with the C-word at the end

[chrome lintel]

I believe so

Depending which one you mean

[south shore]

Cranberry

Yuck

[still totem]

Cocomelon

[chrome lintel]

Gotta buy the croc man skin and listen to men at work while playing

[south shore]

You can listen to me work sure

Its pretty boring

[mortal cove]

I hate you

[chrome lintel]

I knew someone would say that

[south shore]

Woah buddy I watch cocomelon everyday

https://tenor.com/view/brakes-stop-pump-your-brakes-kid-slow-down-hold-up-gif-11920347

[still totem]

[south shore]

@tardy sapphire I beat you to it.

Soz

[still totem]

He’s gonna come in here really confused

[south shore]

Hopefully he just looks in here instead

[blazing flint]

Is it possible they add homestead 78 as a regular weapon or no way?

[south shore]

Anything is possible

But id imagine they wont

[polar mortar]

is the frontier good?

[lone viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jeice-jayce-genu-dbz-fight-gif-16525305

[chrome lintel]

The things I would do to that man

Or alien

[somber mist]

what is a slug?

[chrome lintel]

Shotgun ammo type

Basically one big bullet instead of many small pellets

[somber mist]

thanks, i thought it was a gun

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-cat-facepalm-cat-bruh-bru-gif-3855516381892795428

[chrome lintel]

Lol no worries

[lone viper]

Are you from his species but fe?

[chrome lintel]

Don't need to be

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gif-13432557360957390286

[lone viper]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[golden lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-licking-popsicle-gif-3122588929262013745

[pseudo dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/qiyu-rafayel-goodnight-love-and-deepspace-gif-8842857328412975634

good night

[remote moss]

what the

i gotta come in here more often, help offset the newgen shenanigans

[remote moss]

its just the less ammo version of ranger. its strong cause it shoots fast, and you can use levering to spam it really accurately within 20m as long as you can aim and control the recoil. aim at center mass

at longer ranges, it starts to do ass damage so you need to try to hs though, so thats the tradeoff of being stronger in close range

[random nimbus]

I think it's probably more like our cue to leave XD

Because idk wtf I just looked at

[remote moss]

Never, I'm the jaded vet with no life, I will fight back while I still can

have some goddamn faith, lerii

theyre not stronger than our autisms

[random nimbus]

But I'm an Int build!!!

[remote moss]

😭

weakling, away from me

[random nimbus]

Not faith!

Unironically, most of my first playthroughs are Strength/Faith XD

[remote moss]

good stuff, paladin is peak

[random nimbus]

I've been playing a lot of Nightreign tho, and I'm a Duchess main whole heart

[mild aspen]

hi

[remote moss]

hello normal person

[remote moss]

havent touched that yet, good on u tho

[raven totem]

it's clearly half of the hunt symbol on that mans nipple

duh

[zinc phoenix]

Anyone want to jump in a round with me?

Im 3 mmr US West

[lavish bear]

w teammates

[winged sonnet]

Oh nice the circus's back i can finally get a job now

[lavish bear]

yo L ai😭

[empty eagle]

try our lfg

!lfg

[graceful hedge]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[mortal nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/daring-today-are-we-spongebob-squidward-gif-22508233

[lavish bear]

son

[mortal nebula]

Idk how to respond to that so

[iron pilot]

meep meep

[upbeat lark]

Circus is first right

[lavish bear]

first two weeks are circus

[gusty vigil]

Beep boop

[lavish bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-deglove-degloving-speed-grolemcorp-gif-2628858460915389297

[shut forum]

one not like the other

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/here-comes-circus-gif-24848912

[lavish bear]

ts not the move😭

[gusty vigil]

Avto haymaker slug with double ammo boxes/regen/recov and necro is the move

[lavish bear]

i js know ur in a bounty clash match rn

[unique trail]

Circus

[spark plaza]

!amogus

[lavish bear]

and now hes crouch walking around

nice bro

[shut forum]

let that man be ;-; hes probably off a 12hour shift and wants to play some exciting nervewracking hunt: showdown 1896

[lavish bear]

bounty team is so odd

avtos and mosins js to camp

and then lose

w players

[lofty sinew]

some people would genuinely rather take 40 minutes to lose once rather than losing 3 times in the same time frame

because they are (imho) complete drongos.

[lavish bear]

we js killed 2

grabbed bounty

and last guy was js hiding so we ran his time out

[nocturne tide]

So ive been trying to find friends to play this game with im so tired of running with randoms all the time 😅

[lofty sinew]

pretty fair. the lfg here is probs your best bet.

[nocturne tide]

The lfg ?

[cyan walrus]

nacho libre.

[late walrus]

!lfg

[graceful hedge]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[mild aspen]

looking to play with some decent people who understand team work

im sick of being the last one alive because my teams rushes in and gets killed

[lavish bear]

why

[cyan walrus]

bright lights moth mania

[lofty sinew]

maybe you should rush with your team

[mild aspen]

im not a fan of just running in and dying.

prefer to be strategic and actually get kills

[south shore]

If your team runs in then you run in.

Support them and you might be the deciding factor in the team fight.

[lavish bear]

rush?

[south shore]

Always

[lavish bear]

no js sit back with maynard silencer

[mild aspen]

if it makes sense, sure. but running in doesn't always make sense

[lavish bear]

and do nothing

[south shore]

Staying outside and becoming a solo doesnt make sense

[mild aspen]

for example, im not gona rush in to fight bounty when another team is clearly pinching us

[lavish bear]

well i mean if ur getting pinched

gotta fight someone

[south shore]

Well now your team is inside and occupied and you're outside by yourself about to get pinched

[mild aspen]

then you pull back and let them fight and you swoop in

strategy >

[lavish bear]

ur pinched

[mild aspen]

no, my team is dead

[lavish bear]

lmk how "pulling back" goes

[mild aspen]

i mean, i stay alive so it obviously works fine

[lavish bear]

but you lose

bc you leave ur team

[mild aspen]

i love the hostility here though

[lavish bear]

its a lot easier to win a 3v3 then a 2v3

[south shore]

Theres no hostility here. Disagreement is not hostility.

[lofty sinew]

everyones judgement of what makes sense in terms of how they play is different. but. if you are playing randos (and it sounds like you are) then you may as well support your team in the push. your mechanical ability in fights will improve, and you might clutch up for the team. If you sit back and just let your team die, you are choosing that scenario.

[mild aspen]

thats why im looking for people who don't do that

[south shore]

!lfg

[graceful hedge]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[south shore]

There you go slugger

[random nimbus]

What did I miss?

[south shore]

Nothing much

Strategic disagreements

[random nimbus]

on what?

[timber cosmos]

man i hope i never run into you in a lobby

[mild aspen]

thanks

[south shore]

No need to stir it anymore. Just a minor disagreement.

We're all chill.

[lofty sinew]

just the ever present friction between those who prioritise winning over avoiding tedious gameplay.

I just saw a post comment referring to murder circus 3

is.. that a thing?

[hasty wharf]

I think it's just returning as the compound, not an event

same with spider lairs and maybe other stuff i dont remember

[lofty sinew]

oh right. right. random old event compound thing.

[turbid dock]

This is a late reply lol, but different players have different playstyles and different strengths, and therefore different ideas of what the right move is. To them, the push might have been the obvious move and you weren't there for them

It probably helps to adapt to your teammates playstyles, but don't expect to immediately match the vibes of your teammates when you're playing with randoms

[lofty sinew]

fixed tarot card spawn locations is still a thing hey

that is dumb

[turbid dock]

Like me personally, I'm a big pusher, i'm always looking for an opportunity to do a good push. If an enemy gets tagged/downed, if they leave a good position temporarily and cede space to me, if i throw some util that makes them move, or if they engage another team

I will be holding shift+w

I will be taking their space by force

And if you're not with me, to me that will feel like you're the teammate that isn't backing me up

Even though my play might look like brainless suicide to you

[lofty sinew]

there is a difference between playing smart and playing passively that may not be obvious to you if you havent been playing long. most people will accept the former but despise the latter.

[signal egret]

hey all, looking for a group of other queer peope to play with at some point if anyone knows of a hunt community like that! Been loving this game and would love to play with some people from my own community

i know some may not respond well to this, and for those who would just feel free to shoot me a DM or hmu sometime if you need a duo

[lofty sinew]

I have no doubt we have players here that fall into that category. No idea about anything organised around it specifically. shrug

not something you're going to get grief for here anyway.

[signal egret]

okay that's good, sorry if I sounded overly agressive out of the gate or anything

have had bad experiences in other hardcore shooter/extraction shooter discords

[lofty sinew]

you're on the internet in an official discord. it's understandable I think.

[whole furnace]

Mornings people

[brazen vapor]

good afternoon

[signal egret]

good evening

[dry hawk]

two back to back spawn fights at the same compound
dave has it out for me today

[dry hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[turbid dock]

Your own community? Soon enough the only community you'll be part of is the Hunt community

[late walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1121746395037171774.webp?size=80&animated=true

[signal egret]

cultural assimilation 😭

[whole furnace]

If only man, I've been sick the past two days, woke up to day in a fever induced haze to the sound of someone ranking minerals in Dwarf Fortress.
It was very disorienting lmao

[turbid dock]

We're sending you to the Hunt boarding school

[signal egret]

the hunt gulag so to speak

[whole furnace]

Doood, just who I need

[turbid dock]

The reeducation camp

[signal egret]

i do love hunt sm already

[lofty sinew]

who is dave now

[signal egret]

I picked it up when I was like 17 originally in like 2022-3 and was so pissed that I was bad at it

[whole furnace]

You know the state of the current top top metas of Hunt right @late walrus or at least still have a pulse on it?

[signal egret]

then I picked it up again this past month and am LOSING it at how much fun this game is

god bless the hunt devs for adding bounty clash dawg

[late walrus]

isnt it just like mosin spitzer and spam

[signal egret]

my pvp skills have gotten much better now

[signal egret]

I thought the berthier got a crazy buff

seen a lot of people running it with spitzer

[whole furnace]

Yes, but more that people on the Hunt reddit wanna gaslight me into thinking that blastsense is a widely used meta pick.

[late walrus]

it did but mosin has been meta for about 8 years

[late walrus]

its not lmao

[signal egret]

I saw some stuff saying that as well and like

idk it hasn't changed much has it?

[whole furnace]

Exactly my thought

[late walrus]

blast sense is like 4-5* MAX

[signal egret]

it's a cool perk but like

idk if its meta

[whole furnace]

Felt like I was going crazy

[hollow crescent]

hunt reddit is not to be trusted, ever

actually reddit in general is not to be trusted

[lofty sinew]

the latter part of that statement = yes

[late walrus]

i still see it sometimes in 6* but its pretty rare

[whole furnace]

Yeeee, but I'm currently sick and mentally fatigued atm, so I'd rather just get it out of my headspace lol

[signal egret]

damn what is 6 star like

[late walrus]

waste of a trait slot when i could go find rampage

[signal egret]

looks at my 2-3 stars on average

[whole furnace]

A huge skill check on your movement.

[late walrus]

6* is wiping a lobby and then yapping about how many 6* players are shit at the game or its getting fucking stomped by actual high 6* players

[signal egret]

LMAO

sounds miserable

I will enjoy my 2-3 stars then

[whole furnace]

Also that, that's me right there

[lavish bear]

sounds like PEAK

[signal egret]

LMAO

[late walrus]

its such a shock fighting actual imbeciles and then randomly running into kuzcos

[lofty sinew]

there aren't many games that are at their best at the highest tiers of competitiveness

[lavish bear]

yo

[late walrus]

im never ready for it

[lavish bear]

my recycle bin is gone

im cheesed

[lavish bear]

no name

[whole furnace]

Dunno, a lot of mobas becomes 100 times more interesting when people actually knows how to close games and understand objectives and value farming.

[late walrus]

yip yap

[lavish bear]

awh

[signal egret]

would you say that movement in this sense is more like, game knowledge and map knowledge? Or like instincts and split second decisions

[whole furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-meme-dog-no-bark-gif-12695272

[hollow crescent]

actually, I think I know why reddit is saying blast sense is meta

Rexnor made a vid about it recently talking about traits and he talks about how nice it is to have ( because it conveniently fits his playstyle )

[lofty sinew]

i think that is supposed to start a lot earlier than the highest tiers in mobas init

[lavish bear]

reddit might be the WORST app oat

[lofty sinew]

whats an app oat

out?

[signal egret]

of all time

[lavish bear]

son😭

[whole furnace]

Instincts and split second decisions.
You get punished (die) for standing still and re-peeking.
And basically you don't have time to line up shots, all about quick scoping/flip aiming.

[lavish bear]

but quick scope is peak🥹

[lofty sinew]

I 1000% refuse to use the reddit app. I deleted my account when they removed third party API access. Spez can go [redacted] himself.

[signal egret]

good, you should never have reddit installed

[signal egret]

Ah I see

[lavish bear]

nah i dont die

[turbid dock]

True, though the same mobas also really only allow for funny offmeta strats below the top ranks

[whole furnace]

Mhm mhm, also had someone being adament that Infantry Sniper is one of the best Snipers in hunt bc RachtaZ said so lol.
Sure good drop range (170m), but like 525m/s with HV lmao.

[signal egret]

that's good to know cause I suck at memorizing the maps usually

[turbid dock]

Kinda like hunt

[whole furnace]

Bc you are good at hunt :)

[lavish bear]

❤️‍🩹

[whole furnace]

God sadly not always lmao

[random nimbus]

Ratcha also said the Krag Sniper would replace the Mosin for non-Spitzer sniping and I knew that was bullshit

[signal egret]

I WILL GET GOOD

eventually

at some point

[lavish bear]

js like

aim punch everyone

and you good

[lofty sinew]

just concentrate on having fun, however you manage that.

[whole furnace]

But like, I do genuinly believe his claims if you are as good as him lol

[turbid dock]

That just happens automatically over time, knowing the different routes through compounds and such is definitely important for positioning/movement/rotations but a lot of fights will also happens in new places you've never fought in before and you'll have to make shit up on the spot

[lavish bear]

he also sits on corners with a bow

so i will NOT be taking any advice from him

[whole furnace]

He does? I thought that was more of a Rexnor thing lol

[signal egret]

bow my beloved

[latent dagger]

After 200 hours in the game, My aim is still like garbage. What could fix my aim ?

[lavish bear]

and lets ban toki K

[lavish bear]

practice

[whole furnace]

Uh oh

[lofty sinew]

if you're as good as rachta the weapon in your hands is really not as important as it otherwise might be.

[random nimbus]

This was back before the limb changes too, so Krag was still only two tapping at 112m. The Krag sniper was NEVER going to replace the Mosin. Even in his video he has to 3 tap someone at range where the Mosin would have two tapped

[latent dagger]

Trust me i did,

[signal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-2-low-honor-honor-gif-11368598778726353956

what have I done

[turbid dock]

Fairly certain a significant amount of mosin users are just hanging on to it because its their comfort weapon

[random nimbus]

Ratcha is bad about clickbaiting and vastly exaggering claims

[lavish bear]

but hes cool

[turbid dock]

When they could be kraggin it up

[lofty sinew]

he is a content creator trying to please an algorithm.

[random nimbus]

They were using it because it does so much more damage at range that you didn't have to 3 tap people all the time

[signal egret]

I just like watching ratcha from time to time cause its entertaining

[whole furnace]

Bow have just been a talking point for a good while now.
A lot (including myself) calling for a nerf/tweak of it.

[signal egret]

Honestly that's pretty valid 😭

I know how tilted I get when I die to the one shot TO THE LEG

[hollow crescent]

it really is hard to take reddit seriously when posts like this pop up at least once a day

[random nimbus]

I do not excuse it for that reason. Clickbait is 1 step removed from misinfo imo

[lavish bear]

1 star post

[turbid dock]

Watching rachta will passively make you better as you absorb his experience

[whole furnace]

Yeeeeeah, when it comes to the Snipers I'd say there are two options:
If you wanna be a rat basterd: Silenced Maynard w. HV.
Otherwise Mosin Sniper w. Spitzer.

[lavish bear]

i mean if ppl are gonna complain so much abt fire breather js shoot it

i dont get it

[signal egret]

I've been trying to just passively intake high level player strats

[hollow crescent]

'but muh stealth'

[lofty sinew]

it's a pretty big step imho. and i'm not convinced misinfo in Hunt is actually bad in any real way. if you're just talking about claims about how good or not good a given weapon or loadout is.

[whole furnace]

I mean we also had someone here in feedback saying they wanted to derank and clown on lower skilled players bc they are getting skill issued by AI lmao

[turbid dock]

Are there even any known players we would call better than rachta? I know there's selection bias because he's a known streamer and all but he seems like he'd be like

Top 3 players at least

[signal egret]

blawg

yeah literally 1 star post

[lavish bear]

only time i do this is when i hop on a new acc obv

but it gets 6 star pretty much instantly

[lofty sinew]

i don't think "better" means much in a quantifiable way at rachtas level. I'd put Quinx and Hornet in the same general category of skill I guess

[signal egret]

don't show this guy the throwing spear or he'll have a conniption

[lavish bear]

whats throwing spear?

[signal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-freddy-fazbear-fnaf-surprise-bear-gif-10797545912537514262

[outer iron]

I think the firstbreather is just a ??? like do we need a third immolator? I would have preferred a more creative addition, like the bear.

[lavish bear]

its kinda useless but that not much of a problem

[hollow crescent]

well I saw someone similar not that long ago here

bro was deadass admitting to intentional deranking all the way down to 3 because 'he wanted to have fun and don't want to sweat' when he's 6

[signal egret]

I do like the bear, but the firebreather seems more creative in that it's more ranged than melee-based

[lavish bear]

son you barely even got to sweat in 6*

[random nimbus]

Misinfo is bad no matter what, even if it's just information in a game. If the title makes claims that are later explained to be so niche or specific that they're not applicable, or exaggerating something so much that it gives a vastly different perception about it than what's actually true, it's a pretty close step, imo.

[lavish bear]

you can make a whole pizza before a team does something

[lofty sinew]

what is the bad thing that actually comes from this

[signal egret]

it can be a real pain in the ass to deal with sometimes too and fun to lure people into to burn away their bars

[turbid dock]

I wouldn't discard their experience just because they're average or bad though tbh, the game should be fun for everyone

However, what personally annoys me about the subreddit is how overwhelmingly negative it can be with all the doomposting and complaining

[signal egret]

yeah I don't quite understand what the bad thing that comes of this is

Anyone with critical thinking skills will be just fine by this metric 😭

[outer iron]

It isnt a tough enemy or anything. Just felt like a needless addition. Doesn't add anything FOR ME.

[signal egret]

No that's valid

[whole furnace]

I mean that is a classic notion in many games.
Simply put, 99% of people don't want fair games, they want games where it feels like it fair, but they win.

[lofty sinew]

people are allowed to have different opinions about things in Hunt aren't they. People can make claims. I don't have to agree with them

[signal egret]

I was just saying why I kinda like the little freak

[lavish bear]

as long as they feel better at the game ofc

[outer iron]

I wish this game had some flying enemies. Trains people subconsciously to look up for beetles too

[signal egret]

honestly fair

I do NOT want that mf in my lobby though

[lavish bear]

all you bro😭

[random nimbus]

Firstly, it misrepresents what he really thinks about something if he clickbaits the title about it. Second, Ratcha is a big influence, and his opinions will be taken to heart by a good number of people without any more thought on their part. Now I ain't saying that it's not on people to do their own research and learn, but it's still very bad to do that.

[lofty sinew]

people want to feel challenged but they also want to win.

[signal egret]

now THAT is something I cannot agree with but you do you dawg

[outer iron]

LOL. What can I say, I want something new and scary.

[turbid dock]

As for the firebreather, i think the primary design purpose of new AI (apart from just variety snd flavor) is to help enforce loadout variety?

Too bad the omnipotent spear also just deletes firebreathers safely tho

[signal egret]

I mean if you watch the video and see that the application of the strat/weapon/tool/consumable then you can see that it's actually niche and make your own decision

[lofty sinew]

I guess we can agree to disagree about where this sits on the general badness scale. to my mind it's not enough of an issue to worry about. I've ner really seen anything from Rachta that presents as trying to be gospel.

[signal egret]

yeah this seems like just a huge blowing out of proportion of like a nothing-burger issue

[lofty sinew]

will people blindly follow random things big streamers say? sure. it's a thing

[outer iron]

Spear should be a one slot melee. Tools are supposed to be small.

[random nimbus]

Like I said, it's still just a game at the end of the day, but misinfo is bad no matter how small and shouldn't be spread if possible

[lofty sinew]

is thatt a real problem in any actual way? not super convinced it is.

[signal egret]

my beloved spear

[lofty sinew]

like idk, it sounds like you want to restrict content creators to never present anything that isn't somehow verifiably objective truth

[hollow crescent]

of course

but I feel like if you're struggling so much that you feel the need to make a complaint post about it, something is wrong

that is the one thing I've noticed playing multiple FPS games, people want the game to cater to them, they want to play whatever they want, and if something happens to counter what they're playing they will get annoyed and start bitching instead of, you know, figuring out a solution

[lofty sinew]

which i think is.. probably setting the bar too high.

[random nimbus]

And my point is if the thing in question is actually that niche, Ratcha shouldn't clickbait it with the title or description, or opening to give a vastly different impression than the reality

[signal egret]

yeah seems like borderline authoritarian

[turbid dock]

I'm guessing its a tool for technical reasons, with it being throwable, stackable, refillable/lootable, all that jazz

I agree though, it should be a one slot

Now that people have become pennyringer enjoyers i wonder if maybe the heavy knife would become more popular if spear wasn't a tool?

Instead of the knuckle knife dominating

Or maybe people would just go back to throwing axes

[random nimbus]

I disagree, because content creators can create groups that heavily disrupt a community if they routinely spout nonsense they know isn't true. Remember the Huuge situation and how he made everyone think the game was full of cheaters?

[turbid dock]

It would be variety nonetheless

[outer iron]

Just rename it to javelins. Make it a one slot melee. Give the player like 3-5 of them.

[turbid dock]

This is how i thought they would work when they teased them, i thought you'd have a whole ass quiver of them as a weapon

[hollow crescent]

they'd just use axes or knives

even during old hunt every mf had knuckle knife / medkit / choke / axes for ages

[random nimbus]

Just look at what the Burnt Peanut did to Arc Raiders. Those little shits were everywhere.

[outer iron]

Woulda been cool.

[turbid dock]

I thought it was knuckle knife, medkit, flare, choke

i only saw throwing axes used as a knuckle knife replacement

Like spear is now

[signal egret]

i mean

[turbid dock]

Or do you mean before flares burned corpses

[signal egret]

is it disrupting the hunt community??

[hollow crescent]

this was before flares / fuses were capable of burning

back then you had people bringing in firebombs specifically to burn, or you'd see people carry lanterns around

[outer iron]

I can't vibe with throwing axes. Just so many negatives compared to the other throwing weapons.

[signal egret]

and if so, is it even for the worse?

[turbid dock]

Right right

[whole furnace]

Overall, throwing weapons are just a balance mess.

[signal egret]

Leon get your ass back to ada she's waiting for you

[lofty sinew]

well, ok. Yes. Failed streamers clutching at straws to get views is a thing. And I guess you're then making some kind of slippery slope argument? I've never seen anything from Rachta that comes close to being in that arena myself.

[lone viper]

Let's not be in character

[lofty sinew]

but I will agree that i'd be pretty disappointed if he did.

[turbid dock]

Are you guys talking about this 2 year old rachta video?

[whole furnace]

Ah yes the BIIIIIG man

[signal egret]

I just like

don't care

[lofty sinew]

i'm not talking about any specific video. maybe lerii is.

[random nimbus]

Spreading misinfo is always disruptive. It's one thing to just have a different opinion, all well and good, but a prominent figure spreading nonsense is going to cause problems, even if it's just people being misinformed about things

[signal egret]

this guy got jumped by a rachta fan using a krag sniper I just know it

[whole furnace]

🇩🇰

[lone viper]

I should ping this again, and delete it later

[lofty sinew]

well, we do have a general issue with the spread of misinformation on the internet in 2026. I can understand it coming from the more general angle that isn't specific to hunt.

[hasty wharf]

my dms

[turbid dock]

Wrong one

[whole furnace]

No no that is mine

[signal egret]

just... what is the problems that it has caused

[turbid dock]

I see i see

[random nimbus]

I'm not saying Ratcha is on anywhere near the same level as Huuge, don't mistake me. I'm saying that we can't act like content creators don't have vastly disproportionate sway in the community with what they say, and we should expect that to at least be accurate and not exaggerated/hyperbolic

[whole furnace]

But that is Norwegian?

[turbid dock]

Yup

[random nimbus]

Huuge was just an example of the more nefarious type

[turbid dock]

I'm fairly sure Rachta texts Dennis good night every day

It's cool tho

[random nimbus]

Huuge is probably fuming

[lofty sinew]

Sure. I guess the difference here is just where we feel comfortable drawing that line. And that's ok I guess. No content creator actually wins points from me for exaggerating things, but to me hyperbole when done in a non-disingenuous way is fine. that's just a normal part of humour, and not really on the creator if people don't understand it that way.

[turbid dock]

Rachta has a phone on his desk that connects directly to the PA speakers at the crytek office

[lofty sinew]

I doubt he'd do a worse job of balancing than crytek does if that was true tbh

[random nimbus]

To me, it shows that content creators are not to be trusted with what they say. Might be a harsh stance, but they play the algorithm first and foremost.

[outer iron]

The only way hunt recovers is if Sam makes a new video.

[whole furnace]

He would nerf long ammo uwu

[lofty sinew]

i reckon i'd probably enjoy a rachta balanced version of the game more tbh.

[random nimbus]

Ratcha at least understands how to play at a higher level than the average dev

My eternal gripe with some games like Gw2 are the devs that have no idea how some things actually work and just balance by throwing darts at the board

[whole furnace]

Ye ye

[lofty sinew]

Sure. to me this is just an assumption inherent to the modern era really. don't hate the player hate the game kinda stuff. I obviously lean toward creators that reject fully exploiting that side of things.

[whole furnace]

As far I know, the dev team and a lot of their playtester are actually 5-6 stars

[random nimbus]

I say hate the player too, because the game exists because they play it just as much

[random nimbus]

But on Ratcha's level?

[lofty sinew]

that argument is a bit of an ouroborus i think. everyone who plays the game is culpable to some degree, sure. But the creators did not create the rules of the game.

[turbid dock]

There are only 6 people in the world on rachta's level

2 of them are dead, rachta killed them

[whole furnace]

Maybe not, but that is not all needed.
But people tend to confuse devs lack of "proper game balance" with devs that also needs to ensure those who cannot hit the broadside of barn can also be included.
And a lot of people grossly overestimate how skilled the average is at video games.

[lofty sinew]

sadly a lot of modern society is focused around exploiting monkey brain stuff. you aren't going to hear me applauding it.

[random nimbus]

They didn't create the rules, but a heap of sand is made of individual grains. Everyone involved is culpable

[turbid dock]

Top level players' input should always be included, their understanding is valuable, but it's important to not balance the game solely for them either

[signal egret]

on a lighter note, what do yall think the coolest legendary hunter hand model is?

[random nimbus]

I can hate on companies like EA all day for how they resell the same games and load them with predatory microtransactions, but every gamer that partakes in it is contributing to the problem as well by giving them incentive to do it.

[turbid dock]

Lots of competition here

[random nimbus]

I am of the opinion that games should be balanced more around the top players than the average, generally.

[lofty sinew]

the crux of the problem is people, and we all know we are not going to "fix" people in any meaningful way.

[signal egret]

personally I love servant of the void's

[turbid dock]

You can usually do both though with targeted changes that affect only certain brackets

[random nimbus]

The top players exploit the strength of things the most. Leaving the average player behind is how you create a game of tryhards and no casuals, but a lot of times you can actually appease both to an extent

[turbid dock]

Yeah

[random nimbus]

Which is why I always chuckle when I hear someone say 'Mosin ain't that strong' and they're a 3*

Like, yeah you don't play against the people that exploit that weapon's capabilities

[whole furnace]

Dunno, I just play Gar, nothing to do with her hands tho

[turbid dock]

Top levels are the most sensitive to very small imbalances in the performance at the skill ceiling, lower skill levels are more sensitive to imbalances in skill floors, is the general rule of thumb i would say

[random nimbus]

The dual wielding nerf affecting the average more than the top, for example

Some things cross over tho, like old flashes

Those were some of the greatest equalizers we've ever had, imo

[whole furnace]

Avto/Nitro is one of the prime example between low/high skill brackets.

[random nimbus]

I would also say bullet drop changes have less effect on lower mmrs too

The amount of times I hear 'Who's fighting at those ranges?' and it's like 100m

[lofty sinew]

"aint that strong" just doesn't mean anything when it's also still the best.

[random nimbus]

It's more so a sign that the people making that statement don't play against people that show why it's the best, so they think it's a lot weaker than it is

[turbid dock]

I'm the kind of player that rejects any invitation to fight at those ranges lmao, fuck that

[whole furnace]

Bullet drop is only in the minds of people.
Literally the backlash of the teased numbers were so huge that I'm 99% sure Crytek bumped them up overall.
And now they are basically a non-factor for 99% of the game.

[random nimbus]

Pistols go brrrrrrrr XD

I have been screwed by drop a good few times tho

[lone viper]

Cake is cake, even with a candle........

[lofty sinew]

bullet drop is probably one of the overall neatest and most effective mechanical changes to the game crytek has ever managed to do. imho. it actually mostly affected niche playstyle stuff that was irritating, and not much else.

[whole furnace]

Thing is, most most pistols bullet drop is equal to their old max headshot range.
It is only the Trueshot, Sparks Pistol and Uppercut that suffered for it.

[lavish bear]

L bullet drop

[random nimbus]

I'm like 99% sure most headshot ranges for pistols were in the low 80s, weren't they?

[whole furnace]

Depending on the gun.
But some of them was laughable low.

[random nimbus]

And bullet drop is a stain on the game, imo. Second worst thing they did

[random nimbus]

Bornheim go brrrrrrr

[lone viper]

Does this info matter that much, like do experience players have to prepare like a chemistry lab project teacher before going into hunt

[whole furnace]

Yeah, dunno if I like bullet drop overall, but also... it does open up some design space.

[whole furnace]

What?

[turbid dock]

I think bow might be a pretty interesting weapon to look at in different skill tiers.

• it's kinda shit at very low skill levels because it has a certain skill requirement as a barrier of entry.
• At medium skill levels, where skill levels with different types of weapons vary a lot, it can be super strong because the players that are good with it can get crazy value because the players that aren't good with it also don't meet the skill floor requirement for playing against it
• at top levels it kinda evens out to just a strong weapon because everyone passes the skill check for how to play and play against it, and it just perforns at it a strong level

[random nimbus]

Thing about drop is that in most situations, you legit aren't going to deal with it. When it does kick in tho, it's a bitch and I hate it. Only thing I hate more are the limb damage changes

[lavish bear]

the drop is always weird

[lone viper]

Reminds me of that Scope drupe meme

[whole furnace]

Yeah, but also, don't really think mosin/sparks sniper teams were the most engaging gameplay, so kinda love we have lid on that.
That said Crytek keep doing what Crytek does best and immediately add something that basically circumvent it all with the Maynard

[lofty sinew]

when bullet drop comes into play it feels entirely deserved and appropriate to me.

learn your drop ranges or get used to missing or get used to not engaging at that range

[late walrus]

tbh

[lofty sinew]

i see zero problems with any of those three things

[late walrus]

ive learned to like bullet drop

it used to feel like bullshit but that was because i was shooting at peoples noses like 70m away with shitty drop

but now it feels nice

[whole furnace]

I don't mind it, tho I would touch some numbers.
But like, kinda think it is fair you cannot cover your long range option super well with a 1-slot.

That said, nuke the obrez

[random nimbus]

And then made it silent

[lofty sinew]

thatt you could head snipe someone halfway across the map with a pistol was fine, but silly. And sniping from those ranges is just shitty gameplay.

[late walrus]

sparks sniper needs better drop tho

its so useless

[whole furnace]

Fun fact: Silenced Sparks Sniper would be more balanced.

[whole furnace]

Dunno it is decent tho?

145m

[late walrus]

i could run maynard HV and have a much better sniper

[random nimbus]

Hell, the Sparks Sniper is weaker than the Silent maynard in most ways besides damage, and the Maynard has two damage reductions tacked on

[lofty sinew]

nothing about playing hunt in the last couple of years has made me feel that snipers of any kind need any kind of buff or helping hand at all.

but i am a scope hater and always have been.

[late walrus]

sparks sniper serves no purpose unless you plan to body tap someone with a sniper for some reason

[whole furnace]

That is bc Maynard is stupidly unbalanced lmao

[late walrus]

well i could use mosin sniper or lebel marksman or berthier marksman

[random nimbus]

The fact they had to openly game the drop system with the ammo types tells me it was a bad idea

And a poor means of trying to nerf long ammo

[late walrus]

THE WINFIELD SNIPER HAS NEAR THE SAME MV AND BETTER DROP

THE WINFIELD

sparks sniper has so little going for it

[lofty sinew]

gaming a system in a game. controversial somehow.

[whole furnace]

With HV*

And deals shit for damage

[late walrus]

yeah but what else would you use with a sniper anyway

and its not like youre body tapping with it

[turbid dock]

I stand by my lukewarm take that Hunt fights are more interesting and more fun when they happen at somewhat close ranges, so nerfing the viability of long range engagement is generally good for the game design-wise

You need to be within certain ranges for mechanics like footsteps, throwables, traps, pushing and retreating, capitalizing on a kill, etc to kick in and become a part of the fight. The longer the range, the more the fight just becomes about trading shots back and forth

[random nimbus]

Yeah, bad balancing decisions for stupid reasons are kinda bad lol

[late walrus]

this is what i mean unless you plan on body tapping with a sniper sparks sniper has nothing going for it

and like

why the fuck would you body tap with a sniper

[whole furnace]

Imagine if we just... nuked Spitzer?

[lavish bear]

hopping on fn

[random nimbus]

Just because it's a game and realism isn't what determines how it's made doesn't mean going to the opposite end and saying 'It's a game' and making ridiculous changes is a good thing either

[lofty sinew]

we obviously don't agree on this, because i like drop. it only affected aspects of the game i don't like, and i have experienced literally no negative affects from it in any way, shape or form. so i don't agree it was a bad balancing decision, or that it was done for stupid reasons.

particularly when compared to most of cryteks balancing efforts, it's borderline unmitigated genius. imho.

[random nimbus]

That's...a take.

I'll leave it at that.

[turbid dock]

I kinda agree with the take

Mostly

It's kinda genius compared to their other moves lol

[whole furnace]

Dunno, a lot of balance over the years just feels like "change for the sake of console".
Which is fair, but hurting PC Hunt.

[late walrus]

some guns need their drop ranges tweaked but overall i like it

theres bigger problems anyway

[random nimbus]

2.0 UI

[late walrus]

tbh i feel like spam guns shouldnt deal aim punch

[vernal shadow]

is console hunt called chunt?

[late walrus]

its not so bad when a mosin shoots you and you get aim punched

but spam with it is so fucking annoying

guy with officer c shoots you

your bullet is in the stars

[turbid dock]

No, it's a special version called Hunt: Beatdown because they all use melee over there

[late walrus]

he shoots you again because he has a glock

you are dead

yyyyipee!!

[turbid dock]

Good take

[whole furnace]

Levering buffs
Shotgun buffs
Hipfire buffs

[late walrus]

nah these changes were made to get more 6* players to make q times better

[lofty sinew]

I don't even understand why anyone is trying to cater to console players in 2026 anyway. xbox is effectively dead. why are we gunning for hunt players that only own the platform so they can play GTA6

[late walrus]

because you can just lever your way to 6* now

[random nimbus]

They expanded the brackets to do that

[turbid dock]

Aim punch could be turned into a visible and tunable stat on guns and ammo types so weapons like officer, dolch, match etc can exist with their schticks intact while being balanced via aim punch

Single shots could also get insane aim punch values

I fucking love this idea, I'm adopting it as part of my hunt balance manifesto now

Thanks

[late walrus]

i know it was a joke

[whole furnace]

Bc in this economy, you'll have more console players than PC ones.

Entry level for good PC rn is stupid high

[random nimbus]

Steam Machine save us

[late walrus]

because half the players i fight are just actual buffoons who only got anywhere because they have some stupid unskilled weapon

[random nimbus]

Idk what the specs on that thing is

[lofty sinew]

steam machine is kinda boned for the same reasons as PC

[whole furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-machine-steam-valve-pc-blue-light-gif-1826039917875936436

[lofty sinew]

sadly it willbe both delayed and not particularly cheap, because AI

[random nimbus]

Thing is, a lot of weapons are unskilled but reward you in different ways

[late walrus]

valve cut an xbox series x in half gg

[late walrus]

i mean if you compare winfield ironeye to winfield levering

one of them wants you to AIM and possibly hit head

the other one wants you to

be close to the other person

its so silly

[random nimbus]

Compare levering to a mosin tho

Both are unskilled

[late walrus]

in a way

[random nimbus]

One is relying on spam, the other super high base damage and velocity

[late walrus]

doesnt feel as shit dying to a mosin as it does to levering atp tbh

[random nimbus]

Both very forgiving in their own ways

[late walrus]

most my deaths to a mosin are headshots because the other person has SOME level of mechanical skill

[turbid dock]

Nonononono

[late walrus]

deaths to levering is just hearing like 9 shots and dying

[random nimbus]

At least with levering, I can back up and reduce his effectiveness. Even up close, a Mosin is gonna two tap me anywhere, and with stupid pen values

[turbid dock]

Don't fall into the trap of only thinking of aim as skill

[whole furnace]

Kinda sorta until it is also spitzer that just makes it point and click.

[late walrus]

i didnt say just aim is skill

im saying compared to levering spam

[whole furnace]

With no regard for cover

[late walrus]

it is more skilled

[turbid dock]

Even the most aimless leverer is using their brain to get close to you

[whole furnace]

Mjaaaah

[random nimbus]

Levering is kinda specific too. The officer carbine is the more consistent spam I hate

Or a dolch

[late walrus]

i also said mechanically

you being able to think and get close to me doesnt have much to do with your ability to point and shoot

[turbid dock]

Yeah movement and positioning is kinda partially mechanics

[late walrus]

that too

[turbid dock]

50/50 brain and mechanics ish

[late walrus]

about the stupid pen value thing you said

i feel all pen values are stupid

[lofty sinew]

isn't that part of the idea. if your raw mechanical skills aren't great there are weapon and trait options that rely on those less, and more on your tactical positioning and movement

[random nimbus]

I remember Dizz describing things like the officer carbine as a turn stealing weapon, and I agree with it

[late walrus]

it feels like using anything other than long or fmj

youre not allowed to bodyshot through walls

even if the guy is already tagged

because you will just deal 2 fucking damage

[random nimbus]

You're playing with fire rates of 1-2 seconds, give or take a bit, with most repeating rifles. Then the spam comes in and just says Fuck You and puts 3 bullets out before you're finished cycling to your second

[late walrus]

like who cares if you can perfectly track a guy through a wall if you didnt instantly headshot him you wont be rewarded for it

[turbid dock]

It's true, but this is also something you can play against, you deny the extra turns of a high cycle time weapon when you dip into cover while cycling

If you get caught in the open though

[random nimbus]

Until they pen

[turbid dock]

The game is rigged against you ofc

[late walrus]

this doesnt apply to every single situation

most officer c users are what we call shitters

[random nimbus]

And those spam guns can cover peek just as well, if not better tho

[late walrus]

and so they like to third party

[random nimbus]

Because you can do it so much quicker with less downtime

[lofty sinew]

i mean sometimes you've just lost the rock paper scissors because you're usually working with imperfect information.

[late walrus]

and just tap you while youre preoccupied

its insane to me that crytek chose to nerf the fucking CYCLONE when all this exists

[lofty sinew]

wrt third partying, are we pretending that is not something we all do when given the opportunity

[late walrus]

guys cyclone cant 2 tap to leg anymore

we did good?

and then they buff more long ammo guns

thanks crytek

wonderful

[random nimbus]

I wish that were the case in my experience. I deal with everything from the 'Miss 6 shots, headshot 7th' types to the ones that get hit and hold the engagement because he can just keep shooting while I have to cycle

[turbid dock]

They can, but they usually have worse stats, so to play their advantage they want to try to catch you with your pants down (without cover) to maximize how unfair the fight is

I kinda like the dynamic, but i definitely agree the spam weapons should be limited in other ways. They should have bad stats, they should have bad pen, they should have little aim punch

Cyclone and dolch p are the biggest violators of this i think?

[whole furnace]

Honestly, this is just me talking outta my ass, but I think the reason is because Crytek have made very complex hitboxes for surface areas.
So instead of wooden barricade is just one object, every plank can its own object, so you can quickly lose a lot of damage.
Legit think that is why, while allegedly being a bug the fact that old pen ignored the first instance penetration, it ended out evening out much more.
Again I have no confirmation on this, but it is my go-to theory of why pen feels so bad now.

[lofty sinew]

they should just revert it

[late walrus]

yeah those do also exist

ive got officer level 10 which mostly came from officer c

and its a stupid fucking gun

[lofty sinew]

i'm not down with developers killing their games falling over themselves to satisfy loud voices, but just reverting pen would be such an easy win.

[late walrus]

i think pen feels bad because the game sucks

[turbid dock]

I'm honestly kinda surprised the officer C is getting this attention when the dolch P is just blatantly a much bigger offender

Are we just used to dolch being OP?

[late walrus]

🙏

[whole furnace]

Not as much of a constructive take, but I get ya

[late walrus]

im sure theres some point i can make here i just cant think of it right now

but yeah dolch and dolch p fucking suck too

[lofty sinew]

crytek wants there to be weapons that are just unarguably better than all the others

they go out of their way to make sure it stays that way

[late walrus]

the downsides of using the dolch instead of dolch p instantly mean nothing if you just like

spam a tiny bit less

its insane

[turbid dock]

Could be part of the extraction and economy design philosophy

[late walrus]

suddenly the recoil and sway mean nothing because you shot a tiny bit slower

and its STILL insane

[turbid dock]

I'm honestly not sure what spending more hunt dollars should be giving you in a weapon, but long ammo repeaters and dolches probably aren't it

[late walrus]

with the current state of the economy it shouldnt give you anything tbh

making money is so easy

plus anyone who doesnt prestige has like

a billion dollars

[turbid dock]

I guess stuff like current nitro and avto, like highly situational and freaky guns with high potential are cool as expensive weapons

[whole furnace]

Officer C is like 1/3rd the price.
And not that much worse.

[lofty sinew]

the existence of weapons that are just clearly stronger than all others implies the existence of systems that meaningfully penalise using them somehow. they just forgot about that part.

[turbid dock]

Ah yeah

[lofty sinew]

or, they don't agree with the first statement. because reasons.

[turbid dock]

Shredder has a fun one, with the whole spin up mechanic and how it makes noise

[thin pebble]

Bro

💀

[late walrus]

sonion

[whole furnace]

No way you can be rank 55 with 133 Hunter kills

Impossible

[lofty sinew]

is that a kda of 2? i don't even remember what number is where on that list

[thin pebble]

that is k/d/a

[turbid dock]

What's the second one again

[whole furnace]

Ah yes, but still, no way.

Because I assume if your KDA is 133, you don't die.

[turbid dock]

Maxed out hunters?

[lofty sinew]

I declare shenanigans.

[thin pebble]

full lv hunter

[turbid dock]

Right

So they've died once

[late walrus]

well he has 2 maxed out hunters

so chances are they have had 1 death

[thin pebble]

he definite cheating

[turbid dock]

We are both intellectual titans with our deductive reasoning skills

[thin pebble]

for sure

[lofty sinew]

they might just have two hunters. the plot thickens. to a custard-like consistency.

[late walrus]

have you considered that he might just be the goat

[whole furnace]

Okay, so that makes it even more Hunter kills

[turbid dock]

This is impossible, the KD would be divided by zero, not a number!

[lofty sinew]

surely hunt has straight forward number checks for profiles that automatically flag suspect profiles. surely.

[fallow topaz]

No boss score is funny

[fallow topaz]

I legit don't know any game that ever had a system like this.

[lofty sinew]

they wouldn't advertise it. it would just be a tool that is used, one among many

[thin pebble]

Everyone dies at the game start

[fallow topaz]

You don't need to advertise it, it would just be something in the industry discussions.

[lofty sinew]

if someone manages 100 kills with zero deaths, their account is flagged for manual review. that isn't especially wild. or complicated.

[uneven flax]

why not. i didnt win diddly fuck last night. im poor

[thin pebble]

But it took too long

Too many players have been harmed.

[turbid dock]

I'm guessing the account already is flagged

[lofty sinew]

well, how quickly or effectively that sort of information is followed up on is a different thing

[turbid dock]

Their matches might be in a queue to be analysed by their new machine learning thing, and a manual review is probably gonna be done by the same people that wade through all of your rage reports

[lofty sinew]

noone will argue cheaters don't negatively affect games. but clearly Crytek thinks the amount of money they're putting into combatting it is reasonable relative to what they believe they're losing due to cheaters existing.

[turbid dock]

Based on how crytek has communicated I'm assuming most bans are manual, with the only automatic ones probably being like, when EAC detects that "aimbot.exe" is reading and modifying hunt's memory space

[lofty sinew]

wether or not they're right about that being a different question, and not one worth speculating about really, because we have exactly zero real information to work with.

when i create my own universe though, don't worry. people who cheat in video games will immediately magically spawn fire ants in their underpants.

[turbid dock]

Could you also please make the speed of light infinite?

Finally 0 ping gaming

[lofty sinew]

sure i'm flexible, seemingly infinite but inaccessible universes are boring.

[late walrus]

i love when my game just fucking dies upon loading in so i have to put faith in cryteks dogshit reconnect

does anyone else have matches where they load in and just cant do anything

[uneven flax]

that usually fails and you get your hunter back

[late walrus]

mhm

[lofty sinew]

i can still remember the brief period a little while before 1896 dropped that reconnect was pretty reliable in my experience

a golden era of sorts.

[late walrus]

its not a lobby dying thing tho

[uneven flax]

lobby failing to get instantiated, like a rotten egg

[late walrus]

my game just did this

i load in, and i can hear my teammates do stuff but i cant see anything actually happening

im just stuck in place looking at half a gun floating in the air

[uneven flax]

skill issue

[late walrus]

you know how they float when you pick up a gun off a table?

its like that

cant see my teammates, cant move, cant speak

i just see this and im completely stuck

[lofty sinew]

"I have no mouth and i must scream"

[late walrus]

i know the server didnt die because i can hear my teammates talking to eachother

so ive just had to fucking abandon them because of this reconnect

does anyone know what causes this so i can avoid it

or am i just gonna get fucked sometimes

[lofty sinew]

i doubt it

[uneven flax]

when you bring meta the game itself knows you need a little punishment

[late walrus]

this is the second time its happened

ill clear my cache and validate files i guess

[lofty sinew]

variations of bugs like that have been a thing for as long as i've played the game. i don't think i've ever even seen it implied there is anything you can do about it outside of the boilerplate stuff like verify files, reinstall game, sacrifice a chicken during the vernal equinox, etc

[uneven flax]

it's not your game's problem. game's just kinda fucked like that sometimes

ive had all sorts of bugs when looting guns or reconnecting from the game

[late walrus]

unfortunate

[uneven flax]

my worst bug was when sounds were delayed by ten seconds

[late walrus]

it feels really shit because my teammates dont get to know whats happening

as far as theyre concerned they are just playing duo vs trio

[lofty sinew]

it's been a long time since i played randos. but when i did it was pretty normal to only have 2 functional players in the 3

but that is not entirely the games fault i guess

[late walrus]

the first time it happened was with my friends and they got into a spawnfight before i could even play

[lofty sinew]

sometimes they do just be sitting at spawn until 3/4 of the way through the lobby.

like they forgot they queued, and suddenly remembered

[late walrus]

yeah i swear some randoms will just ready up and then go like

cook a three course meal

[lofty sinew]

haha. yeah. what are they doing. it's a not very fun mystery.

[uneven flax]

they can afford a second monitor to doom scroll

ya'll just poor

[lofty sinew]

I have two additional monitors for doom scrolling kthx

[uneven flax]

then you must idle at spawn too

like the classic raandom hunt player

[lofty sinew]

I am a pretty aggressively ADHD brained noodlenoggin stoner, honestly. but no. That is a crime I am not really guilty of.

[late walrus]

ive been afk at spawn a few times but i only do it with friends and i come back after like 20 seconds

some randoms will deadass sit there until youve gotten 2 clues and killed a team

[lofty sinew]

right. the former thing, sure. not with randos though. i don't wanna be that guy.

[whole furnace]

I think I'm basically 5 for 5 with randoms being great.
I don't play random often.

[late walrus]

i dont even get my hunter back bro

my contraband sparks pistol is gone forever

[whole furnace]

The eternal shoutout to the 2 guys who literally waited in the dirt for 8-10min as I was slowing unravelling a 3-way team fight.
It ended with a comback and a sever wipe win.

[late walrus]

me and ultron once had a random who died to throw a choke bomb on my body and got redskulled

he sat there for like half an hour while we fucked around and wiped lobby

[whole furnace]

He could sense the victory

And had a 3 course meal to cook anyways

[lofty sinew]

i always used to hang around to see what went down when i played randos. sometimes they pull off highly improbable wins

[uneven flax]

bugs are my justification to leave with the bounty early

like stealing back from the game

it's like pooping on company time

[late walrus]

i am noticing something

[uneven flax]

or taking a sick leave and forgetting to file it

[late walrus]

i didnt get my hunter back but i got all the hunt dollars back

and the sparks pistol

how does that work bro

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-nodding-ishowspeed-nodding-my-mom-kinda-homeless-gif-16401546600461596658

[lofty sinew]

that doesn't look entirely healthy

[whole furnace]

Oh god, was trying to find a clip from that random fight, but found this instead:

This feels mean

[late walrus]

bro 0 ping im gonna get all my trades

[dry hawk]

bro is deaf

[whole furnace]

She was a baby Hunter.

[lofty sinew]

they seem to have forgotten that "up" is a direction you can look :I

[icy bay]

Gamers dont look up or down

[uneven flax]

that swap felt longer than normal

sparks really swap out like that? yuck

[whole furnace]

Think I just was a little slow bc I assume my friend had at least tagged him, so my brain was set on the "1-tap kill"

it is also why I never use bornheim, my brain is so tuned to 2-tapping, so I will often 2-tap someone and stop shooting.

[lofty sinew]

that confusing moment when they don't die from a second hit marker

i still get it even though i used compact a fair bit

[uneven flax]

buff compact

[uneven flax]

bornheim match is ok

[gleaming dove]

Use high velocity on the bornheim, I’m positive a slingshot would do more damage

[uneven flax]

also bornheim has like 0.2s cycle time. still really low TTK with a 3 tap

but yeah you need to not forget that it is 3 tap

[urban steppe]

luckily for me, I am used to button mashing until they die

[whole furnace]

Here some quick swaps :)

[urban steppe]

Hot take, but I think they should buff the mace damage

why on earth does it need TWO heavy attacks to kill someone

[uneven flax]

nice

[urban steppe]

when the axe attachments on 2 slotters only need 1

[uneven flax]

We need more mace / brawler variants

[urban steppe]

mace is so laughably bad
it needs the same amount of hits as a brawler/knuckle to kill

[uneven flax]

officer brawler makes me play bad. so i dont take it anymore

[whole furnace]

I have a scottfield brawler melee kill, that is all that I need

[lofty sinew]

the mace is actually a pom pom in disguise

although

it works on AI just fine really

[uneven flax]

I will hit you with a mace once, if you don't die immediately then you are wrong

[urban steppe]

mace does 90
a hunter has 150

😹

[uneven flax]

IRL

[urban steppe]

😾

[urban steppe]

The mace somehow does less damage than the striker (105)

[lofty sinew]

maces were fairly popular weapons back when bonking people with things attached to sticks was popular. i'm pretty sure it was due to them being reasonably effective

yeah thats silly

[fallow topaz]

The mace on the Obrez isn't a full sized flanged mace.

[urban steppe]

it has the lowest damage out of all the 2 slot melee attachments

[fallow topaz]

But yeah, I don't think Hunt damage values reflect real life

[lofty sinew]

i mean the striker on the short springie isn't exactly a sword either.

[urban steppe]

and it still does more

🤔

I'd argue it even has more utility function cause it can remove wire

[fallow topaz]

Hunts blades vs blunt design choices is a discussion to have. Even if it doesn't really go anywhere

[urban steppe]

0 people are physically using the mace/blunt objects to beat open a door in an era when polter exists

as a trait

[lofty sinew]

i mostly bring blunt for immos tbh. if i am bringing it.

[fallow topaz]

Can polter open barred doors?

The main time I'm trying to breach it's those ones

[urban steppe]

yes

[fallow topaz]

makes a note hehehehe

[urban steppe]

you either waste penny derringer ammo on it
or use polter

don't waste time beating it down

alt option is to find a sledge/axe or whatever and throw it at the door until it breaks 😹

[fallow topaz]

Hammer :3

[late walrus]

i wouldnt say its a waste of pennyringer ammo considering thats like a third of its main purpose

[urban steppe]

its stupid but it works

[late walrus]

killing people, ai, and breaking doors

[urban steppe]

or at least that's what I did before polter was added

😹

to "open" barred doors from a distance

doors get like 2 shot by a thrown sledge

[uneven flax]

pennyringer has too much utility. it should be nerfed against doors

[late walrus]

you can break the sliding doors with like 6 throwing knives i imagine you can break barred doors with them too

[urban steppe]

Ideally i'd save it for people/ai

since polter exists

[late walrus]

id rather save the trait slot poltergeist takes for like rampage

or any other burn trait

[urban steppe]

I usually have room for like 2 burn traits

[late walrus]

plus special ammo boxes are EVERYWHERE

[urban steppe]

yeah

for me polter is a must grab now

too much utility

[fallow topaz]

Polter has entered your zeitgeist

[late walrus]

the only thing that really takes a hit on your pennyringer ammo is nuking bosses

[uneven flax]

but how do you see anything in darksight with polter

[urban steppe]

once you kill people by closing doors/windows before they frag in

you will never not take it

[uneven flax]

witness + polter + vigilant

[fallow topaz]

It makes stuff you can effect glow. :3

[late walrus]

blast sense

[uneven flax]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-drool-pokemon-gif-17046195

[urban steppe]

I mean who is doing that anyways
highest source of boss dps is just throwing a world weapon like the axe/hammer at it

rinse and repeat

[late walrus]

i mean you can easily tell it all apart unless vigilant is the same little dot

[urban steppe]

instead of swinging

it

[upbeat lark]

Poltergeist and shadow leap

[fallow topaz]

Even if you perfect storms, if you can see Cain you can see what you're aiming at

[late walrus]

just need some sense of map knowledge for poltergeist to work

[urban steppe]

no joke. look at how much damage a thrown world axe/sledge does to a boss

[upbeat lark]

God I used that combo once and I can't explode a darksight satchel at all

[late walrus]

unironically been considering using poltergeist because of dumbass shotgun teams that close every window

yeah bro im so good at the game

i sit in compound with a shotgun

and HOPE youre dumb enough to push me

balright

[urban steppe]

Dude, polter has saved me so many times fighting guys holding a door

[fallow topaz]

Sounds like you've pushed them too many times

[urban steppe]

take it

[late walrus]

i know

[late walrus]

no it sounds like theyve existed too many times and its fucking annoying

[fallow topaz]

I just like we have stuff that gives hunters more obvious mystic powers.

[late walrus]

i know i cant push because i just get 1 tapped by a shotgun

[urban steppe]

pennyringer boss pve ended when they added the ability to throw world weapons without Tomahawk

for me at least

[late walrus]

but i WANT to push because i enjoy playing the videogame

[fallow topaz]

If you ask some folks on here, they'd say use the bow since it's OP

[late walrus]

alot of my friends will still pennyringer boss because they just cant be bothered going to grab an in world melee if they dont have one already

its fine on like scrapbeak cause he will give it back anyway

but like butcher just eats all of it

[upbeat lark]

Most of the time I can't find an in world mele before finding the boss

[late walrus]

lmao someone headshot my random at 81m with a bow today and he called cheats immediately

and the other random chimes in saying hes got bow level 10 and that its impossible to hit that

[urban steppe]

the only upside to greystone as a compound is that it spawns like 4 shovels to throw 😹

[late walrus]

mind you this guy was standing still

[fallow topaz]

81m headshot with anything makes me yell cheater

[late walrus]

??

[upbeat lark]

Really most of the time I either find the boss first as I spawn or running for 12 flipping minutes for the other people to find the boss and kill it

[urban steppe]

81m is very short

[fallow topaz]

For legal reasons this is a joke.

[urban steppe]

oh

I was gonna say that's well before bullet drop even begins for almost every gun

[late walrus]

jarvis show me this guys star level

[lofty sinew]

lucky, i'd almost un-penned my lawyer

[jagged wraith]

Lowkey these queue times be long enough now they should let me queue for multiple gamemodes for hunt...

[fallow topaz]

Yeah I realized I should talk like I'm on reddit for some of this stuff.

[late walrus]

excluding pistols

[urban steppe]

almost because nitro is like the one gun before that happens bwahahah

[urban steppe]

yeah

[fallow topaz]

Some folks will be surprised birds gave away their position.

[urban steppe]

I tried playing explosive nitro last night

holy moly drop distance of 30

its over

[fallow topaz]

That's turnt

[late walrus]

you can 2 tap someone indirectly with explosive nitro

[urban steppe]

its actually cooked

[lofty sinew]

giving away your position is only a problem if you for some reason don't expect other teams to act on the information you gave them

[late walrus]

waste of ammo but you can

[urban steppe]

I know, I used to do that

a lot

[gilded agate]

basically throwing the bullets

[urban steppe]

fast peek unload both barrels

[late walrus]

haymaker fmj has like 45m drop or something

[fallow topaz]

Sometimes you gotta party

[urban steppe]

explosive uppercut range 😹

[upbeat lark]

The most painful loadout I've used is 2 Scott precision as a meme

[urban steppe]

yeah

[upbeat lark]

Bullet drop and velocity is pain

[late walrus]

i remember getting a random a few times whos name was scott mastery torture and thats what he ran

every match was 2 scott Ps

[upbeat lark]

My godness

Respect to that guy

[late walrus]

still not sure why he didnt just use scott p + scott spitfire

or even swift fanning

[upbeat lark]

Well guess I found the next loadout I'll be running

[urban steppe]

🤣

[fallow topaz]

Double nagant precision and deadeye

[urban steppe]

dude this one time I got a guy running the fireman skin with 2 flamethrowers

[upbeat lark]

Atletico it'll be bearable that 2 Scottps

[fallow topaz]

I won't lie, I like stacking ammo so stacking guns is my final form

[late walrus]

ive tried just like larping as the hunter im playing

like running prodigal son with drilling + scott swift

because those are the guns he gets a skin for

[lofty sinew]

fireman loadout sounds boss

at least they're not gonna snipe from a bush

[urban steppe]

I bring 3 concertina bombs as felis
because it is the closest thing ingame to yarn

and cats like yarn

[late walrus]

💔

bro conc bomb kills have to be the funniest shit

[fallow topaz]

I love checking in lore loadouts of Legendary hunters

Some feel pretty solid

[urban steppe]

polter --> open window --> c bomb toss --> kill guy hiding nearby

same for doorway kills

[lofty sinew]

works even better if you have someone else doing the polter or the c bomb

[fallow topaz]

High level team cohesion is tight

[uneven flax]

Imagine if Hunt had a fuckin esport

It would be so crazy to watch pros work together

to make it an e-sport they could probably do different rounds of varying loadout prices

round 1 = 400
round 2 = 700
round 3 = 1000

yada

[upbeat lark]

Counter strike money economy

[uneven flax]

only way to make it work

[lofty sinew]

a bit difficult for a game with hunts player numbers to esport, putting aside all the other problems (like the game never being designed for that sort of competitive play at any point)

[uneven flax]

It's just a spitball

Imagine if it had, the only way to make it is to limit loadout prices per round

[fallow topaz]

I did like the top level players doing that custom match

[uneven flax]

otherwise it's just fuckin mosins everyday

and that would get boring

[lofty sinew]

i wouldn't mind seeing some kind of twitch event that just pitted teams of top streamers against each other though. i'd probs watch the highlights at least 😛

[uneven flax]

on top of all the running and clue gathering

[fallow topaz]

What if less meta weapons got more points per kills

[upbeat lark]

Or weapon type to be the one that decide the point given per kill

Or ammo type

[uneven flax]

really sad because hunt's collective twitch streams are like 2000 people lmao

[upbeat lark]

I believe cs did that (smg/shotgun kills give more money than rifle kills)

[uneven flax]

no one simply is incentivized to make an esport out of it

[fallow topaz]

Honestly, I'd rather they invest in an anthology series