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no one wants spam
nagant poison exists but its weak against immolators for no real reason
delete dolch, delete bornheim
bornheim is okay-ish due to 3 tap
Spam is spam
yeah its still bad
Make exceptions allows it to exist
id rather die to maynard silenced than a dolch or bornheim
spam is a necessary evil
its the most consistent 1v3 style of weapon
shotguns have a use case but they dont have semi auto competitiveness against mosins sitting in compounds
Maybe you should win a 1v3 with better play instead of spam
you cant unless theyre dumb, bro
ive run shit guns like springfield without bayo or fast fingers
True they buffed revive meta
all the time, they just have too much hp combined
i pop one, he hides, two more keep an eye on you, youre so fucking busy reloading
hs isnt even a guaranteed drop
levering, fanning and dualies exists. and those have its disadvantages like high recoil, high reload, RNG and the trait slots
spam guns on the other hand... esp dolch...
well
Dolch is designed to be op
they nerfed the disadvantages a long time ago, theyre pretty easy to use but takes extra effort
If you're og then you'll remember Dennis saying it's a premium gun for a premium price
levering ranger is stupid insane in compounds still
havent seen our boy dennis in years
He's still the game lead
oh nice, i hope santa shows up eventually too then
i dont like it. price does not matter to most rich players.
dolch is in a good place, its dolch p thats the problem rn
Average hunter is poor
i was around when they finally nerfed dolch and it was so fucking funny watching old dolch players miss everything
Dolch p is barely more expensive than normal dolch
And it's straight upgrade
No recoil
obnoxious, yeah
I hate it. I hate guns that are clearly "superior than other guns in any way imaginable".
I mean
It removes sense of competitiveness
Mosin is technically superior to sparks. Vetterli is superior to Springfield
whats stupider is that running dual fmj conversions is usually better than running dolch p for most people
and its way cheaper
Because it's repeating
And Hunt... well.. Hunt sits in this weird place where it has to be competitive but also rich people must have something expensive to buy
most dolch p players dont even use it at its effective range at 30m, they use it when closing the gap to spam
and dualies does the same fucking thing but cheaper
yeah im poor
i couldnt run mosin dolch even if i wanted to, really
Content creators always have a dolch with them for a reason
Its the free 1v3 clutch
no it doesnt. dualies, fanning and levering has RNG and that's basically its core disadvantage.
meanwhile for dolch..... fuck em
Martini henry is underrated! Clicbait thumbnail
Video: dolch p clutch
nah, the rng is a problem because you have to aim center mass with your shots but its consistent into 20m easily
ive run dual bornheims, its consistently amazing, stupid funny
yes but it's still RNG. People aren't standing still when you're spamming
well, thats more leading skill, the rng aspect just limits your effective range
RNG is a good balancing lever for levering and fanning
Auto5 and dolch p is another content creator loadout
Just push and spam with all weapons
totally interesting hunt content, fr
Just got dumdum for my dolch 
Spam is king
i never not get kills with those spam guns
People pretend it isn't
When you mention officer cringebine people say it's weak
Cyclone is weak
Dolch is too expensive
Bornheim 3 taps
They all win in ttk
skill issues, tbh
no gun should be faster than 0.5s cycle time.
no shotgun should be faster than 1s cycle time
Good thing specter is 1s
yeah i dont hate specter
slate and cringe on the other hand
potato
oh is it? i thought it's 0.8s
Slugs was so much fun
slate just feels so good to shoot
Cause it's the most modern shotgun
remove inaccuracy on slugs so we can headshot consistently, please
In game
and specter, tf
i see
bornheim match should be buffed
im just saying, people suck at using it
must mean the gun sucks
I absolutely still hate how Hunt is the only game with similar feeling guns. I hate it. Like I'm stuck playing Hunt when sometimes I don't want to sweat my ass off in this game.

Please somebody just make a game with Hunt guns
right?
same SFX, same reloads, same chambering and shit
To me hunt feels like a turn based game when it comes to the guns
i played RDR2 recently and god the guns feel like ass
There's exceptions and that's spam
arthur reloads like a fucking movie character
Rdr2 is just hunt guns but sped up 3x
Faster
tbf he is a main character and has 20-30 years using guns
its turn based where you better pray your party is next to each other or else youll lose cause you have less turns
Think we'll get a Post Malone player card?
they said Blood West is hunt-inspired as said by Devs, but i aint playing no roblox looking shooter
In game lore John is the best shot
I tried Witchfire but it felt like Dark Souls DOOM than anything else.
even the roblox versions are all fast paced
😭
bergmann actually outclasses the fucking c96 in some rbx games
its crazy
Most games are ww2 or modern. Which all have full automatic and semi auto guns
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but reviews are mixed
Its so fun to use old guns with long reloads. Like not absurd times like a musket
fistful of frags still winning
yeah i just wanna duck behind cover and reload my guns realistically as monsters or people attack me
i want that kind of feeling
i never understood the musket games, its fun in the sense that its suddenly a swarm game of better officers and positioning and your individual skill is worth jack
its pretty chill arcade rp i guess
There's also barely any games with single action revolvers. They are always double action
Hunt is cool for that
im just praying to god Hunger actually makes it
Musket gameplay is just purely boring.
It's from Hell Let Loose devs isnt it
Hunger got bullet resistance
Yeah it does have RPG mechanics
The current development is making it a hero shooter
but it okay that makes it deeper than Hunt. Hunt's technically a battle royale
The melee characters get abilities that make them resistant and can outplay bullets
Idk I don't like stuff where I shoot someone and they tank harder than a borderlands elite unit
That being said, Valor Mortis is another one. Granted it's a souls like with old guns, but I played the alpha test and it felt GOOD
Hunger is trying not to be just another shooter, they want melee to be relevant. i don't see how they do that without doing what you just mentioned
nothing quite as fun as a melee meta, fr fr
add bullet parry, duh
this game felt goooood
slow shooting? parries?
I don't mind it. I actually like melee first person games. I played a ton of Mordhau and KCD1/2
Melee as a supported niche is always a hard design to hit right
The first mistake they did was making a semi auto rifle with basically long ammo bullets (heavy)
Its like gun devs don't know what gameplay balance is
i guess they want a stylistic shooter
It's more players are real good at breaking games
humans are strange critters
sometimes it just takes one boss man with a disgreeable taste in games to ruin balance. Like the guy in Crytek responsible for dolch and auto5
ah yes, the competitive aspect of optimization for maximum consistency
Its like when hunt was new. We had nagant, compact ammo, shit damage, takes forever to reload, takes forever to shoot a second shot.
Dolch, deals high damage, shoots fast, reloads fast
Why make one thing that has everything
so if youre bad at the game, you can buy your way into winning
Nagant had to 3 tap to kill
its fun to be inefficient but a lot of people just hate losing
exactly. Same goes for Krag/Mosin/Lebel.
Why make 3 top guns that basically makes everything else useless?
People really think game design works like that, don't they. /Jk
im glad i wasnt around that much back then
At least Drilling has 2 shots and not long ammo.
things like dolch existing assume the game being appropriately designed such that there was actual risk associated with bringing in such a pricey weapon. but there is not, and never has been
price balancing that somehow works even though it doesnt work on dolch p in public opinion
Drilling is extremely punishing and the sights in that gun is dog water
Two shots spam op
True 
I don't like when you have stuff that have a clear downside and the we have weapons that perform better than that weapon with no downsides
exactlyyyy
i do like how slow Dolch is to reload. Now maybe dont make it ten fuckin rounds
Like mosin in modern games is the clunkiest thing ever
In hunt it's the sharpest, most friendly weapon ever even for animation cancelling which isn't relevant anymore
all im saying is, maybe someone had an obsession with russian since old lore talked smack about our superior american winfield and said "heh, traditonalists. i use russian"
damn you, developer bias
imagine if hunt guns are only like 5-10% better or worse than each other and the price parities arent too big then maybe the world will be a better place.
But no. Mosin/Krag/Lebel is essentially the holy grail of rifles, Slate/Auto5 the holy grail of shotguns and there's no reason to take anything else.
Shit balancing
mosin in insurgency is pretty meta one tapping though. peak mosin design
Mosin was good in tarkov and then they nerfed it 50 times
Like you can't hold it longer than 10 seconds
Weird decisions
it isn't balanced. it isn't even trying to be balanced. it is a tiered weapon system for a game that is unable to support meaningful balance with a tiered weapon system
good thing i dont keep track of mosin
probably hated that it was easy for good players to fuck high gear crutchers with it
leg meta isnt nearly as strong anymore
oh yeah, remember to update your mind, mako is competitive in the long ammo pantheon now
berthier, i think its still slightly too slow but it does still have spitzer
Comparing a mosin from hunt to tarkov is wild since tarkov plays in a completly different timeline. But yeah, also its true that mosin in tarkov used to be good too 😄
Kinda insane
Well I mean that mosin in other games feel clunky to use, hunts mosin is super clean
like, its a popularity and personal taste thing that results in vetterli and ranger not just farming mosins in compound range, right
but no one actually takes advantage of that
Like the fire rate is longer, reload is longer
because they either 1) don't understand balance or 2) don't actualy care about balancing the game in the way we all think it should be.
and they never buff our spammy stuff, so they just buffed long ammo so its suddenly better than all of them at nearly the same ranges
They probably have to balance off data so you end up with fixes off last seasons matches
Something something always fighting the current war to win the last one.
it is definitely not even that closely connected
Basically every weapon feels super clean in hunt compared to tarkov tbf 😂
Turns out Tarkov sucks. /S
It's not unusual for games though to just ignore balancing completely.
Like modern shooter games always do the same mistake where they add a weapon that's small and has the fastest ttk in the entire game.
Cod has done this repeatedly with a full auto pistol, vector, (all separate games), as val.
In battlefield they've done same shit in each title as well.
Like on paper it should be clear
yo, cod fal meta gaming was the shit
slow firing so people slept on it somehow even though it was meta
💀
If you offer a varity of weapons its hard to balance everything for everyone tbf. If long ammo hadnt any advantage over compact why even play it
i mean, sure but its kinda blatantly biased towards easy to use long ammo
those outliers usually get nerfed eventually. the way in which balance is fundamentally flawed due to the tiered weapon system has been the case for.. a long time though. a long time.
if they did a flat, non-tiered weapon system each gun category would get to be best at a single thing, and have downsides elsewhere
but none of them would get to be best at everything
might as well skip velocity balancing and buff the mv for compact and medium so it can compete against long ammo as super easy to land
That's kinda what's happening at the same time. Not entirely compact related but making things shoot faster.
Shooting fast is a clear benefit in hunt cause the majority of guns are slow in repeating fire.
Yet we've gotten absurd cyclone buffs to the point people had enough and crytek kinda nerfed it.
Mako, being long ammo gets close to compact ammo fire rate.
Berthier technically got a fire rate buff.
Uppermat has gotten one.
like a long ammo gun would never get to achieve even close to the fire rate of smaller ammo weapons
cyclone popularity problems which exist cause people cant aim the mv and struggle to pace their shots compared to spamming like they would with dolch. then they decided to nerf the mv even more and just take away the 1v3 potential, which doesnt solve any of its actual problems
the nerf is nice cause it means they notice feedback, but come on
recoil on it is still too easy
Cyclone shouldn't be in the game
imho they have just always had several conflicting interests / piorities and balance has never been the top of that list.
Those weapons are only balanced if people are inexperienced with it
otherwise they might have done a fundamental rethink of the weapon tier setup years ago
Its a lot of work so I see why they probably push that away
sure, base level reworks are hard and there is no garauntee you come up with something people enjoy more, or even has less flaws
They've clearly been doing play rate balancing
Like mosin obrez drum buff which is one of the most absurd buffs that's still existing to this day is 100% a play rate buff
sure that seems obvious
what is less obvious is why they think any given long ammo gun needs to be played more even if its pick rate is low.
They want people to play cyclone so they repeatedly buffed it
I'm guessing a lot of inexperienced people have low survival rate with long ammo
Which makes them buff it
Just my theory
Cause they do have some kind of logical to their changes
something mildly ass-backwards like that would sort of explain it maybe sure
They also revealed that most people are poor in the increased player lobby blog post
Crytek is very secretive with their data. Would be nice if we got public live info
i can imagine them being focused on new player experience / retention stuff while feeling that long term vets will keep playing regardless at least
in other words
we should actively throw with our favorite weapons to get them buffed
I mean I don't know if that would look different data wise ...
In your case at least /jk
well functionally the goal would be to tag as many people as possible without killing
Yeah...
dizz got problems
No
It really said "we know what you really mean"
I just wanted the edgy part of the gif
mhm
Hell yeah brother.
so anyway, its fun going back to the basics in hunt. springfield bayonet and scott brawler is one of my favorite off meta loadouts
The algorithm has him pegged.
i run it with stamshot and usually get two bayonet charge kills every time i commit
You go with the slowest fire rate build
You could just play vetterli, it's spam
bayonet is damn strong as a counter to shotguns if you can not die on the corner
Same damage
nah, sometimes i like relying on melee and slow shot
I mean... I don't know about counter. But option for sure
people underestimate melee charges cause pennyshot exists
but bayo range and sprint speed is king
you know whats really king?
crown and king
Crown and King?
spam be upon ye
Lmao hell yeah
dizz do not broom react me
vetterli bayonet is my favorite bayonet variant, yeah
damn i wish vett didnt fuck with vision
those bars actually fuck you over when youre on low res
Bleed pressure into bayonet is the vibe
oh hey its the fat gator man
hi glide
Heyo
Rotjaw is a lovely lady you Silly Billy
Glide is my favourite hunt gen user
Fuck ya!
im pretty sure you all have wives and you still act this way
Raian is on 9000th place
i do not have a wife marine
hello guys
sup
😭
the game is fixed thanks
what
Your latency isn't higher than your fps, it's fine
my latency is over double my fps
last 2 days was 220
could be worse
sounds like average eu servers until crytek was effectively forced to pay extra to the bad server hosts
good times
Have you considered playing on your own servers 
with who bro
Its a joke
i will not be playing with myself
more reliable than randoms cause its your own skill level
playing high ping is funny anyway
dizz is this W spitzer
shit still takes like years to connect
I've got 10ping on eu, idk what u talkin about 😅
Complaining about ping while playin outside ur region is crazy
no
@frigid ibexHop on
dont make me play with that shitter
They really shoot themselves in the foot and act like it's someone else's fault, don't they /jk
I'm cooking
.
he has food bro
Food changes everything
im like a dog okay he has food im going over to him
I ate too much food
Hunt time! #unemployed
ive actually lowk started developing insomnia after getting hooked in hunt. maybe adrenaline still running after play session
maybe
i watched this video of speed's brother where they eat in a restaurant and if the brother doesn't take a bite of anything he gets a free tesla
bro actually struggling
how do you get that addicted to food that you struggle when you'd have a free truck if you abstain for 2 fuckin minutes
Made a tomato based sauce with chicken and pasta
give
I will run mama maye for you
im in the spotlight 
@short halo hop on
dude broke his spiiinnne
Always satisfying not missing a shot
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m0ZsggTAAcg oh my fuckn god lol
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yea bude
Rex is so funny he’s gonna turn this game into dynamite warfare Thoe 🥲🤣😆😀
don’t post rexnor. dude reports "verbal abuse" players but is verbal abusing himself.
saw it live, i’ve got no proof though
streamers think they’re more importanter
Don’t be spreading rumours false information can get you into a lot of trouble especially if you can’t back it up.
If there’s no evidence then it is false.
no, it’s not false, it’s "no evidence"
i watch him a lot i havent seen this whatsoever
which his LITERALY what i said myself
but i know people can get tilted sometimes. idrc
so get off my neck thx
whats with people getting upset or phobic about us aussies playing on NA when OCE servers are dead jesus christ
because HURR DURR ping abooze
(or so they say)
i farm in OCE or play solo there, sometimes i actually get full lobbies there
like weekends
legit just got the game and get cant lobby durin the day so hop onto na
then get told be several people fck off bascially
If you don’t have ‘evidence’ then it’s a false claim.
if you say so.
It’s literally the truth. If you say you’ve had a car crash and try to claim on your insurance but there was no crash or damage as evidence it’s a false claim no?
it's literally just report button. who doesnt abuse it when they're tilted.
let's just say no one really cares about producing evidence, this isnt the supreme court
i’m talking public streamer with wide audience level of report
is there even a way for viewers to report that player though?
unless they start reporting manually
the clip was asked so prolly reported on crytek website
and who knows, maybe multiple times
i mean if there's evidence 🤷
though i don’t think it would have consequences anyways…
right. doesnt matter.
there is evidence of light banter in game 😅
remove choke bolts
ill keep watching or posting rex these plays are nuts
ye as you please
Choke bolts are crazy fun!
i’m just titled when i see him since 😄
Concertina arrows and poison bolts is the combo
I smell ragebait here.
someone got sparkschokebolted 
Eewww
no i got like 6 choke bolts shot into my building so that peeking was not allowed
Its legit pointless to spread slander without evidence
Catch him in 4k being an ass first, until then he has the community's goodwill
they wanna force you to play outside
no they did not
Don't post Kalima, i saw them cheating in Hunt
admittedly it was a decent strat
No, i don't have video evidence
to choke everything and push with shotguns
but holy shit it was so annoying
just come over and shoot me man what is this
i mean, it worked no? 
thats why i said it was decent
choke sound cover
i didnt say its some dogshit strat that doesnt do anything
its not about sound cover
it was about stopping me from being able to peek them
they were full sprinting at us it didnt block anything
well idk if i start choking everything i get 1. choked people 2. blocked openings 3. some sound cover
it’s layers of annoyance
they get shot at once and so every window needs to be covered in choke
.
so marathon or winnie if you're broke?
?
marathon sucks
just go winnie atp
-marathon: loses ammo each time you reload (LMAO even)
-no access to levering
+marginally faster ROF than winnie
winnie. marathon works but winnie is fine if broke.
wut
Read what I just said
i run what works for me and warathon just works for me 😄
yeah i did read
that’s no deal breaker for me
Idk why they made it a winnie alternative
And then proceeded to give it more downsides than the winnie
The marathon is an extremely hard sell
I think you'd be better off tapfiring a levering winnie
huh
What do you guys think is the most underrated weapon Hunt has to offer?
romero 
The bornheim match
Every melee weapon i would say.
Good pick
Elaborate please
Chu Ko Nu
I dont see anyone use it (besides with explosive to troll) but i think this weapon is unbelievably fun.
I think its rated perfectly since its the worst cqc weapon in the game.
wdym ?
Cries in Chu Ko Nu Lover
cqc?
I'd use it a lot more if it wasn't glitchy as all hell when it's holstered
close quarter Combat

Conversion
not really seen often outside of free kits people use to bum rush clash with, great for fanning ( ideally with FMJ ), good head clicker, and great skins
Extending to that, chain conversion is nice as well
finally bro double headshot with one bullet. And with only 3250h in hunt
I still think the bornheim match is the most underrated weapon because a lot of people don't notice that a bornheims damage is 74, and a match is 80. And it fires faster than a dolch, and has crazy hip fire.
the match is talked about fairly often whenever the borneheim is brought up, also advocated fairly often by content creators and such
amogus
it probably is an underrated gun to some, but most underrated?
absolutely, especially since its a two slot that most people would rather just bring an auto 4 whereas the base conversion is good dual wield fmj and a very accurate, very fast fanning
presenting long ammo 'rifle' with budget dolch
If only the match can use fmj cause damage drop off hit it hard
It is
idk, I rarely if ever see people actually mentioning the conversion, and even in the case of fanning some will argue for the trueshot for accuracy instead, doesn't help that both fanning and akimbo are also generally not talked about that often either
effectiveness is one thing, but how relevant it is is also worth considering
I wouldn't say match is an underated gun but I don't see many using it in my MMR bracket
conversion fires faster then a trueshot with fanning, and is relatively the same accuracy. And with the recent limb changes base pax now has an argument to dethrone the conversion but people don't talk about that
Anyway time to try to clear this weekly quest
Guess I'll have to play clash for a week cause this damage quest is pain
again, I won't be arguing for effectiveness, the match is plenty effective for a spammy 2 slot, even if people will more often than not opt for a shotgun instead but that's 2 entirely different weapon categories
when arguing whether something is most underrated, relevancy plays a big part in the equation, and generally speaking the conversion is talked about way less than the match
Mele kill
Rival damage
Romero damage quest and a flipping bomb lance(launcher )damage quest
Sound like a good quest pool.
Why ?
I don't know I just keep losing when I use them
I guess I'm just that bad at positioning myself and aggressive plays
They're in completely different categories. If someone is interested in the base conversion pistol, it is for fanning or dual wield. Whereas the match has to compete against things like the drilling or dolch p or auto 4, etc.
I like uppercut dual wield
Like people aren't going to ever recommend a nagant over a conversion for fanning or dual wield unless they're specifically talking about the dead eye nagant fanning memes
and how often do you see fanning and / or akimbos get brought up in hunt discussions in comparison to spam / 2 slots sidearms
Or the silencer smg
because I see the latter get talked about much more often than the former
ya before it was nerfed lmao
because fanning has been talked to death about and so has dual wield
people know what's good
and I cannot even remember the last time a content creator actually advocated for the conversion, outside of making budget loadouts
Yeah the conversion is complete dogshit for regular pistol use, nagant tier, but the fanning and dual wielding is noice
go watch rachta video on dual wield, or any creator and they'll all come to the conclusion "conversion was the best" - now these videos were made before limb changes where the base pax can now two hit in the arms
dolch dead eye dual wield
ya LMAO
I did that like 6 months ago and when I spawned in and saw the scopes on the same side of each gun my dreams of looking through two dead eye scopes were crushed
Ikr
Binoculars
How come my hunter can't just mirror their guns
play clash for long enough and you'll be a decent shotgunner in no time
playing shotgun is a game of shoulder peeking and map knowledge
Would be awkward to use cause the position of the scope is the left side of the gun
and also the fact that people need to stop running in-doors when there's a shotgun
it's the one thing that gets them killed
its also a little strange you can't pair a claw with a normal
Damn...
probably because they don't want to deal with having to animate 2 claws meleeing, or even just one claw meleeing in akimbo
Dual wielding clawed pistols should let you light attack really fast as you stab with alternating pistols
It technically counts as a different gun in the code
ya of course but still
you have to waste a whole 10 hunt dollars
Little late to the party, but bornheim match is my favorite sidearm for the last 2-3 months. So much love for this weapon
based
Yes cause it’s spam
Americans love Spam. Crytek loves spam
does anyone even use the claw ( or any claw handgun variant for that matter ) on a consistent basis and isn't just because they're a fresh prestige, just unlocked it and they get a copy for free
ain't nothing wrong at shooting 6 bullets at that mosin who shot one
not me
maybe there's some argument there for berserker idk
Yeah i mean at this point you can argue about everything lol. Shotgun is broken, long ammo is broken, 'spam' is broken. Whats ur loadout im curious now 😂
mele guns that i use most often is trauma and riposte ( or bayonet)
crossbow
You save whole ten hunt dollars for claw and dusters instead of knuckle knife 😮 😮 😮
you'd just be better off with a primary melee variant at that point, or a spear
of course you'd be better off, but that requires switching
Ahh yeah true, ppl only complain about the bow, not crossbow, mybad
Officer brawler so i can happily use axe or heavy knife without worrying about immo
play steel bolts for a week and play a bow for a week you'll understand pain
oh yea officer brawler exist that is pretty nice
I dont like ether tbh
the extra 25 damage the bow has is such a big deal
Yeah dont get me wrong, i dont complain about the balancing. I was just making fun cause whatever u say u like someone complains
ya play whatever you have fun with
theres a lot of "good" guns in hunt
but with soft headshots removed i think almost everything is viable
Every gun is good on its own in the right moment
Thats why i dont care about any weapon, like u said. Ppay whats fun too you
Its like everyone feels like everything kills them too easily but nothing they use kills enemy
weird way to say crown users belong in hell
maynard silenced users should always step on legos
Idc about crown or maynard ether, just because i dont like it doesnt mean someone else shouldnt too.
if people wanna win that bad
let them lol
I love using maynard silencer.
Why
I hate crown too.
Sadly i have like 5 contraband crowns atm so i have 3 hunters ready to crown and cringe tonight 👌
normal maynard is pretty fun to use
Gotta use it to get silenced
just the silenced variant i haave a gripe on
Than just shoot max range and run further
Like usual, if nobody pushes you like an idiot crown isnt good.
I mean crown with slugs can two tap from pretty far
That’s just shotguns in general
Yeah well, so can many weapons 😅
I wouldn't say so. Just use mosin obrez drum for all ranges until someone pushes you or you push someone and pull out the crown
Auto5 is still an absolute powerhouse among all shotguns
nah
People probably wouldnt mind the meta guns if there’s a forced wipe though 😎
Wipe not gonna change anything
Forced wipe? Whats the point of that in hunt lol
this is not tarkov, nothing will change lmao
youd have to make it harder to get money or make them more expensive for a wipe to matter lol
There is no real progression to this game that would change anything
I think it will. When wipe day is close everyone will bring all the expensive doohickeys
You can just buy everything again
getting enough for a full meta kit is really easy
Sadly that hurts casuals coz they gonna be poor
this
They are already poor
if you wanted to change meta guns you could just. change them
Should loadouts be free 
Crytek revealed average hunter is poor
Wym im a casual i have 669k rn 😎👌
i dont think forcing to reset the coins of everywone would be a good idea
So you're not the average
Ppl that are good will have no issue at all with this, ppl who struggle struggle whit or without lol
isn't the avg hunt dollar count is like 20k
No
Anyway im just memeing. I hate meta guns and the economy as much as the next guy
That would be crazy low isnt it
Crytek revealed the average being like 6k or something
What

Yeah it's in the blog post
it would make getting the hunt coin badge even more of a challenge to get but still
Most are under 20k
Average is like 8k
IIRC
People are poor
If you have 1 or 2 good rounds u have more than that wym
good rounds arent real
This happens when you’re about to prestige
Well some people lose 10 games in a row
well
If hunt coin badge has no 10-25% more hunt dollars collected the badge can fly a kite and lick my toes
on average i have to lose 4 games to have 1 good games
I'm sitting on absurd amount of money
I wont spend 500 hours for a little teeney weeney 1M badge
Same
i only have 20k
im just prestiging whenever i can and running meta kits all the time
That sucks. I realised we are rich cause we have 20-60 hours per week in this game.
People who play 1-3 matches a day are completely dry
I can't prestige anymore
either prestige starts well and i have 20k or it goes to shit and i have 3k
i consider 11k to be rich
either way i run the same kit
Are you max prestige?
dizz is p101
They removed the button some years ago
I have 700k, i think i cant understand anymore
what bro
Skill issue
I have centenary
dizz i am on p46 now
I genuinely haven't dipped below 4k ever since I started prestiging, and I'm at 39 now starting from 2
Soon you'll have 50 laurels
im still on 8
Proof?
somedays i will hop on and i will die and i will die and i will die and i will die
pausing for a moment to get the 5 or 3 ace of hand achivement i forgot how many i need
I wouldnt mind if they raise the prestige above 100
and i will run lebel uppercut through all those deaths
Whats stopping crytek from doing upto prestige 999?
Its the same amount of digits
im ashamed to say prestige 1 to 100 took 50 days
do this and give us more free blood bonds
I would click that button in an instant
i wish the prestige reward is actually good
pass 20 its just hunt coins not bbs
yeah i like that skin
I will only prestige if my 690k hunt dollars prestige me from 0 to 100
fair enough
I guess most of the shotguns are fairly cheap so it's harder for me to go that low even if I was on a long losing streak
what was old prestige
Current one is just everyone weapon level 1
You had access to romero, nagant, scottfield, winfield, Springfield level 1
You had some sort of challenge in the old one
Old prestige
specter like 2nd best shotgun sitting at 188 hunt dollars
and crossbow and bow
Nah that was later
id still do it
When I prestige xbow was later and bow was like 55
but i would hate it lmao
Lebel was 52
I'd rather this than having to painstakingly unlock shit
and god forbid if I wanted custom ammo or a specific variant for a gun
I remember the days where p25 was the highest lol
Mosin 72
I dislike prestiging.
It makes me sad.
I don't get the complaint. If you actually kill people with said gun you unlock everything in no time
They even made all hunters be worth more
Before you could kill hunters giving 350xp
Also u had team leveling. I remember everytime we prestiged we would play conversion for that uppercut cause it was locked behind that too
It was based on their mmr
if you find a loadout you enjoy that isn't effected by prestiging it's just ripping off the bandaid. With the amount of XP envelopes (now with them spawning in towers) its incredibly easy to prestige twice a day
Team power leveling was peak
@gusty onyx cant you use a different pfp you make me feel like i have bad internet. That is rude
I only play like 2-3 matches whenever i feel like playing hunt.
i would like crytek to give conversion a buff
Wtf
I used to try to play every weapon before for the weapons book entries unlocks
ya in that case fuck prestiging
Nagant and scottfield first
me saying conversion buff isnt me saying dont buff nagant and scottfield
Oh god, the weapon book, almost forgot about that
Sorry, maybe i will change it someday
But conversion strong enough innit
Irons are complete dogwater though
Ok so you hate the nagant, why do you want it nerfed
I cant hit crap with conversion even with crosshair overlay
conversion really isnt that strong outside of dualies or fanning lmao
I find it odd that they removed the lore books, never really understood why
the lore was part of the intrigue and it paired well with the themed seasons, even if most didn't particularly care for them much
There was a time when people coped with uppercut price nerf and said conversion pistol fmj was better
idk about everyone else but a gun being good just because you use it with dualies or fanning doesnt make it good to me
i actually fucking despise it
i do not feel skilled using dualies or fanning
i want to feel skilled while using a good gun
conversion is a mid gun
I mean there was a time where chainpistolfanning was meta too 😂
whas this ico nmean on my hunters
First extraction bonus
bullshit, when i headshot a mosin at 60m with a dualwield pax
Innit
you extracted with bounty for the first time on that hunter, so you get a bonus
That u already extracted with a bounty
I think mid is a good descriptor for it. It is a budget pistol
Now scottfield and nagant…
it feels too mid
base scottfield is
I like scottfield tbh
it seems like it disappears after a while though
Why even take scottfield for 77 dolor when there’s pax for 80 dollar?
like a day or so
its bad pax is just better in every way
And it's been nerfed more than mosin
it resets every day
now if i'm being real i get what you mean
Nagant worst weapon in the game and crytek nerfed it more times than most weapons in the game
scottfield spitfire tho that is my favorite pistol in the game so im gonna be biased
Give it a break
just give me conversion hv with 400mv or some shit and i will run it
at the same time dual wield makes you take those really stupid shots you probably would never take otherwise
I enjoy pax claw.
i mean yeah spitfire is a great pistol
its just like
the pistols before it
base scottfield is mid
Pax claw is valid now, it used have no range you couldn't reach a hellhound without crouching
scottfield brawler is worse somehow
Spitfire can be pretty much a different gun.
Non spitfire scottfield is spit water
yea unlocking it is pain base scott is just so terrible
nobody hates the spitfire
but having to use the other scottfields before unlocking it makes it not even remotely worth it
at that point I'd just buy a pax
Spitfire is incredible
Big fan
Nah they should double your attack speed
If you already complain about this i see why they changed the old prestige lol
Since you alternate between pistols
Good idea dizz.
all this discussion and crytek is just gonna buff mosin next patch
Ow!!!
i cba
Mosin dumdum when
dizz can you genuinely go and ask crytek balancing team whats going on in their heads
When mosin match silenced releases
like
nah they're gonna buff the mako and berthier again
They can give it dumdum
honestly i'd like to see them switch the damage of the mosin with the lebel
make you be able to buy dumdum on a maynard
and why was the mako buff just cycle time
I suspect it had no pick rate
mako needed a buff yeah
but just cycle time really
what is that bro
guys make sure everything is just firerate
What if mako is just balanced and the others are too strong
i want every gun to shoot turbo fast
That'll be so overpowered.
also yea mosin is used wayy too much even tho berthy exist
Berthy is really good rn
At first i thought it could take dumdum ammo.
and if its pickrate have they considered nerfing the shit that gets used like every match
like i dont know
the mosin?
or the lebel?
its really good even before
balancing wise berthier was fine
but no one cared for it because they cared for mosin
They'd rather nerf nagant silenced a third time than nerf mosin once
And the old recoil
Where is your cat pfp
Mako having a faster cycle time than centennial is fucking criminal
Also i wanna be able to press b to switch firemode to singleshot
dude they couldve just slightly buffed cycle time so it wouldnt feel so clunky and then give it like a little more mv
and it wouldve been fine
but instead they were like
Not sure.
<1.5s long ammo shouldnt be a thing in tjis fuckin game
yes this long ammo rifle
Mosin enjoyers are so late to the Krag train
i need it to shoot stupidly fast
Ok buddy
i feel like whenever crytek balancing team has a meeting theres a 20 minute discussion
on how they can turn a gun into spam
Keep it to yourself.
or make a new spam gun
actually no crytek wouldnt give us another gun
only scarce weapons
my bad
im not sure if its better but i preffer krag more
Scarce weapons are cool as hell
guys lets buff the officer carbine
The meta gun is lemat carbine, cause it's a pistol and a rifle and a shotgun 
solely cause i can actually see the sight pointer
theres a bow main on the crytek pay roll I know it.
well yeah
but i would like a gun that i can purchase
Krag wins vs mosin every time, 100% winrate
There is and he streams it sometimes
i really need to buy some glasses i cant see the sight on the mosin at all its just a blurr
its rather ironic im complaining about shitty meta but i just want more long ammo rifles
all i run is long ammo
lol wait i dont think crytek partners count
No I'm talking about a dev
what fucking dev
I'm a compact and medium fmj enjoyer mostly, only long ammo i run is my beloved krag
WHO IS IT
its yaga isnt it
No
i dont believe you
I love cent fmj. I also learned recently fmj got a damage dropoff nerf and I was sad
that guy bro
Just watch dennis play, i wonder why we havent had a silenced mosin sniper yet.
Don't be mean to yaga
WHO IS IT I'M GOING TO LEAVE A STRONGLY WORDED MESSAGE IN HIS TWITCH CHAT
It used to be +20m to full damage for all types
put a wall there
Now it’s +10
Bow nation stays winning, sorry buddy
Respectful
Message
No idea when that happened, but I didn’t like it
Crytek dev team
LMAO
I heard dizz uses bow.
Nah I think bow is mid I'd rather use a real gun
Its still a really good ammo type though, it still has better falloff after max dmg range
it'll more be like MAKE THE CROSSBOW THE SAME
I can't wallbang with bow
It seems pretty marginal
You're not trying hard enough
guys
I did get a double kill today with shot bolt through a wall
Maybe we need 1000hands trait for bow wallbangs
Ban bow
its moreso to illustrate that bow doesn't need 275 damage
40 point trait
because its outright better than the base crossbow bolt
well we need more of that
give steelbolt limb pen
Steelbolt was added and nobody played it, so they gave it the straight upgrade buff
Give steel bolt full spitzer pen
i wasnt responding to anyone in particular i just saw crossbow mentioned
That's where we still are
and got mad about steelbolt
i can get mad more if you want
shotbolt misses out on trades sometimes because you die and then the buckshot just fucking disappears
Sooo I just ran into a guy who has on his profile badge "Furthest kill distance" and the number was about 3.800 meters.. Checks out?
and they give it wallbangs except if your enemy isnt licking the wall it wont kill them
Crossbow is cool but honestly the lance is a cooler crossbow
well
Traps
i suppose anything more would be fucked
but GOD
it feels so shit tagging someone with shotbolt through a wall
That was me btw
But that doesnt count anymore, and the map is only 1000x1000 afaik
Killed someone on another map
back then traps count for the kill distance thingy
now no
they didnt remove the distance from people who had already done it
but yeah im pretty sure theres no way to get 3800m anyway
Planted traps, died, loaded into next game, got trap kill from previous game
its a bit bigger i believe
They killed someone in saint Denis
Poor hosea
:<
Spoiler
If you shoot a bullet into the air it should have a 0.00001% chance of killing someone on another map
Shouldve killed the original rat! Micah!
yet another spoiler for the 208493 year old game
Crytek should add rocket launchers
devious
They did and then they made it scarce
make spitzer scarce
they will literally listen to you please stop speaking
Dark magic propelled big dynamite missile for the bomb lance
Bow frag arrow
Crytek actually reads chat
nixa is lurking RIGHT NOW he will have RPGs added
scarce spitzer ammo for Derringer
I think they should add a hive jar variant that contains a whole ass Brute
Add the uppermat carbine as a scarce long ammo weapon
Nixa i want 32104582 hunt dollars
😧
you have enough
He'll make you pay back a 1 million dollar loan
Everytime you earn money it goes to his account
You can only play free hunters
sounds a bit too close to real life tbh
bro runs romero irl
Romero is the garage gun you can make
nah my free hunter came with shitty traits and no weapons
Metal pipe with some gunpowder
can't even use darksight
We should get free hunters with lebel again
