hunt-general

[daring ice]

-_-

[normal kayak]

heathen i have an important question

"important"

[short halo]

I have nonsensical answers

[normal kayak]

if you see me on hunt showdown and ask what mode im playing

and i say "hunt"

would you understand that im playing bounty hunt?

[short halo]

Yes

[uneven flax]

damn that question kinda sucks

[short halo]

But only if you said Duck Hunt

[light sky]

Listen

In a live scenario and the way this guy communicates

it's hard to get

[normal kayak]

live scenario was text btw

[mild quiver]

Bounty hunt is the only relavent game mode, if someone tells me they are playing hunt showdown ill assume its bounty hunt

[light sky]

I got "I'm playing hunt" as literally playing the game and ignoring my question

[short halo]

You have 3 modes
Hunt, Fight, and Find a Shotgun

[normal kayak]

please get spooky off the mod team man

hes so stupid

[light sky]

not when this guy forced me to play Clash yesterday

[dreamy cave]

I only play hunt to spin my character in the menu

[normal kayak]

i mean i did make him play clash yesterday

i hopped on purely to do weeklies and he got on too

and i made him run clash

but if i SAY hunt

he should know im on hunt

no clash

[light sky]

That's why I ask

[normal kayak]

AND I ANSWERED

[light sky]

cuz if you said Clash I would just stay in bed

Should have said Bounty Hunt

I need precise answers!

[normal kayak]

see hes stupid

[mild quiver]

Clash is for speed running challenges, warming up real quick, or trolling with friends imo

[normal kayak]

yeah

[light sky]

I just need more clear answers

[mild quiver]

Been months since ive run a clash match, the que time takes forever too

[normal kayak]

what servers are you on

[mild quiver]

Literally never played a single roung of soul survivor in my 4k hours on the game. Soul survivor could be removed and I would not even notice

[mild quiver]

nae

[normal kayak]

weird

im nae i get clash in like 2 minutes max

usually a minute or less

[mild quiver]

Maybe I just got unlucky but I also do play mostly during super off hours

[dreamy cave]

Im on nae and it also takes for forever to get into a clssh match

[normal kayak]

probably mmr/time difference

[dreamy cave]

Probs

[mild quiver]

Im 6* its not like im some super rare 1* or something wild

was probably just dead when I tried to que

[uneven flax]

bounty hunt has some form of commitment needed. i play soul survivor if im full of high level hunters and i dont feel like sweating my balls off

sometimes i had to summon maximum willpower so i dont literally shit my pants playing bounty hunt

for some reason i always get the call of nature mid-game

[mortal nebula]

What the dog doin

[mild quiver]

I random que for the most part so I dont really care what happens. I try to win, but in the end im here to have fun

[mortal nebula]

^^^^

[mild quiver]

Habitual re peeker cant help my self, one of us is getting our head clicked

[uneven flax]

"just one more repeek"

like you cant help yourself

even thoug you know you dying

its like. youre playing a game but u too lazy to use WASD to move

[mild quiver]

Even tho it should not work it usaully does lol, they usally just have worse aim than me

🤷‍♂️

[languid sparrow]

Hey guys, are Hunt servers bugged for anyone else? My region pings look completely off. Just wondering if it’s only me or happening to others too

[uneven flax]

bro living in russian nuclear bunkers

[languid sparrow]

I live in Türkiye 😄

[polar ridge]

Happens to me sometimes too. No solution that I am aware of, I just go "welp, no Hunt for me today I guess" and try again the next day. Annoying is what it is.

[uneven flax]

like your other servers get 0ms too? basically they are unreachable

@languid sparrow How big was Physical: Asia there in Turkey?

I know the turk team was painted out as some sort of dark horse in the show

and they had really good competitors

[languid sparrow]

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about 😅

[uneven flax]

the tv show Physical: Asia

I guess it wasn't all that big if you havent heard of it lmao

How do I have HNT in my usernaame?

[languid sparrow]

Oh I get what you mean now. I’ve actually seen it on social media, but TV channels here mostly show random dramas. Young people in my country don’t really watch TV anyway. Also, there usually isn’t an official broadcaster for events like that online here, I didn’t even see any ads for it 😄

[uneven flax]

no it was a netflix show sorry

[languid sparrow]

same as on dc

[uneven flax]

i see. if youve seen and remember it despite not really knowing about it it probably means it was big

[polar ridge]

Yup. Some servers go to 0ms, others to ping around or above 300 and all of them are unplayable.

[uneven flax]

Never happened to me. Are you in the same area as the other guy?

But then I don't server switch as much as the other guys

All's I know is I have never found a 0ms server. My highest is South America at 300+ms. The rest are 20, 130, 170-220

[steep orchid]

3bb not enough bro

[whole furnace]

Lmao

[hardy pewter]

Just lost an obrez and dual trueshots because the game decided to dc me and not reconnect

Funnnn

[glass harness]

Been there. Their reconnect feature sucks

[hardy pewter]

I literally sat there for a solid 5 minutes just pressing x

Legit nothing happened

[glass harness]

Then it says teammate disconnected or some shi like that😒

[hardy pewter]

Exactlyyyy

[polar ridge]

Nope. Central Europe more like.

And 0ms means that a server is completely unavailable not that you can connect to it and react faster than anyone else.

[left orbit]

guys i think inferno is already out

[languid sparrow]

By the way, I managed to play one match on the Russia server, but when I got back to the lobby, this is what I saw haha

I guess Crytek doesn't want me to play the game

[mortal nebula]

banned, reduced to atoms

[uneven flax]

i wonder if using google DNS fixes this for you?

could really be a problem with your ISP

or maybe try running vpn

[royal cloak]

It is not.

[hardy pewter]

Apparently my ability to hit shots is bipolar
Because 1 game I'm insta tapping every little footstep I hear and the next I'm whiffing every shot for the whole round

This hurts

[left orbit]

"hunt giveth hunt taketh"

[left orbit]

damned. what are all these fire clips on my kompootor then?

[hardy pewter]

It's been "taketh" for too many games in a row lol

[languid sparrow]

Thanks to the backward authorities in my country, Discord is banned here, so I’m using GoodByeDPI. But even when I turn it off and try to connect, I get the same issue. I guess, like @polar ridge said, today just isn’t a Hunt day 😄

[boreal tartan]

are the scarce weapons staying in the game forever??

[left orbit]

it do happen. maybe a brake would help

[gilded horizon]

is it inferno in every fkng map now?'

[hardy pewter]

That's what I'm already doing lol

[left orbit]

no it's random just like anything else

[hardy pewter]

Just getting some complaining in

[gilded horizon]

i had it every game since it came... im sick of it ...

[left orbit]

like since yesterday?

[gilded horizon]

yep

[royal cloak]

Hm.

[gilded horizon]

extracting fast is not an option anymore either

[whole furnace]

Considering that people have been complaining not getting inferno often enough, Crytek might already have tweaked it a little so it is in the higher odds of getting for now.

[grave rose]

ash bloom

[whole furnace]

What about the Dank Zone?

[gilded horizon]

should be able to choose, like before

[grave rose]

needs to comback

[whole furnace]

That haven't been like that for over 2 years.
But eh, just the dance and song of every event like this.
X people gonna complain they are not getting the new thing enough, Y people are gonna complain they are getting it too often.

[whole furnace]

Don't think it ever will

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-madison-adam-sandler-dont-you-say-that-dont-you-ever-say-that-gif-4705254

[whole furnace]

Kinda a case that a substantial majority hated it

So wouldn't keep my hopes up about it

[normal kayak]

mcree what gun do i need to use im not hitting my mosin shots

[whole furnace]

Specter w. Penny

[normal kayak]

not a shotgun

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-choke-adam-sandler-golf-mad-gif-10370992374065922952

[normal kayak]

i always hit shotguns i dont want to use one rn

i actually almost didnt kill a guy with drilling shotgun earlier because you cant look straight down

and he was below me

hit like just enough pellets to head to kill him

[whole furnace]

Then Silenced 1865 w. FMJ

Time for some

✨✨✨Vibe shooting✨✨✨

[loud prawn]

mailing fedex

[normal kayak]

well ill use the normal 1865 until i unlock silenced

[river slate]

And often u can't see below bcs coats, skirts and anything other than pants messes up your pov

[normal kayak]

who?

oh im dumb

[loud prawn]

lmao

[normal kayak]

i mean yeah that makes sense

but its so fucking annoying sometimes

[whole furnace]

So fun to use, sadly this was with subsonic for a weekly, so only 229m/s instead of the 218m/s it could have been with FMJ :/

[normal kayak]

i have higher ping than the mv youre telling me to use btw

[river slate]

Just use it with krag or centennial

[normal kayak]

shots gonna take. a while

[whole furnace]

Just use what?

[loud prawn]

its funny

[river slate]

Subsonic

[whole furnace]

What do you take me for? Some kind of sweat?

[uneven flax]

they need to add other reasons to use subsonic

[river slate]

😬

[whole furnace]

Also if I need to grind subsonic fast, I run non-silenced Sparks Pistol.

[grave rose]

yes

[loud prawn]

no, no they dont. its fine as it is imo

[normal kayak]

if i need to grind subsonic i dont

[uneven flax]

silenced nagant dualies

[mortal nebula]

any guns below 343mv should just automatically benefit from subsonic

[river slate]

Love the mindset of "anything that isn't shit and borderline useless is sweaty"

[whole furnace]

It just feels like disrespect and I'm all for it.

[dusty gorge]

subsonic is suppose to not make you go deaf but i think it still does, seemingly just as fast

hope they fix

[uneven flax]

amazink

[normal kayak]

lol

[mortal nebula]

not being able to go deaf would be an interesting upside for subsonic

[whole furnace]

upside?

[uneven flax]

i used to hate 1865 carbine. but holy shit that 145 damage makes enemies go nuts

[river slate]

This is hella good tbh

[mortal nebula]

im drunk

[uneven flax]

you tap em and they react like they're bleeding

[mortal nebula]

1865 carbine is good fun

i like running it with a new army

[dusty gorge]

try spamming nagant carbine subsonic vs normal and it seems the same last I checked

[grave rose]

sleep it off

[normal kayak]

ive always hated the gun tbh

not sure why

just feels shit to me

i like the silenced

[mortal nebula]

slow, clunky

[normal kayak]

but then i have to use the normal one to unlock it

[mortal nebula]

kind of a pain to use

vs the centennial

or vetterli

[normal kayak]

well the centennial doesnt do like 1098487230948 damage

[mortal nebula]

mako buff has genuinely been peak though

[normal kayak]

the vetterli yeah that does do alot

[mortal nebula]

wish they gave the mako a more meaningful change other than just making it into the krag 2.0 but w/e

[raven totem]

Berthiar > mako

[normal kayak]

yeah

buddy cant spell berthier

[raven totem]

Git rekt

[whole furnace]

Dunno if the hunt community would be ready for such, but still think subsonic ammo shouldn't be needed for silenced weapons that already meets the subsonic threshold.

[mortal nebula]

Brothier > mako

any weapon below 343m/s mv should just benefit from subsonic

[grave rose]

its glide

[whole furnace]

100%

[mortal nebula]

mako is super spammy now ig

fun to use

[raven totem]

It's scarecrow

And beast

[mortal nebula]

yuh

helo glide

[raven totem]

We should play again, to both of yall

[mortal nebula]

just got out of a party with some goobers

lemme grab another beer

make another sandwhich

and i might be good

[raven totem]

I'm at work unfortunately

[mortal nebula]

when u off

[raven totem]

7am

Lol

[mortal nebula]

u in est?

[raven totem]

Ye

[mortal nebula]

ill be up

[raven totem]

He'll ya

[grave rose]

dude at this point i just play to p and once i hit my daily p thats it

[mortal nebula]

im glad the cyclone got dumpstered

[raven totem]

I don't really care

[mortal nebula]

about the cyclone?

[raven totem]

Ye

[mortal nebula]

fair

[whole furnace]

What about
If the Dolch P, to make it more unique
Only fired in 3-shot bursts? :V

[mortal nebula]

i just have a vendetta against it

[raven totem]

Dolch p scarier

Untouched

[mortal nebula]

dolch should have a 1/3 chance to explode and instakill you every time you fire

[grave rose]

been seein a lot of more of those

[mortal nebula]

i have like

10293012 dolches

[grave rose]

gross

[mortal nebula]

i just dont use dolches

boring

doing well with a dolch doesnt feel good, it feels like an expectation

[whole furnace]

I am bad at hunt, so I need to min/max myself to survive CQC, so LeMat shotgun it is lol

[mortal nebula]

perringer and a prayer

[whole furnace]

I still refuse to use the Pennyringer

[mortal nebula]

i get more kills with it than i do my regular guns tbh

its so overpowered

[whole furnace]

Yeaaaaah

[mortal nebula]

devil card

and put explo in the uppercuts

2 ammo boxes

[lilac wedge]

5k hour hunt with turtle neck

[uneven flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hungy-lizard-lick-gif-17981615152551697402

[left orbit]

UGGHHHHHH

[hallow scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-the-boys-s4-the-boys-season-4-homelander-sad-gif-12641831445820699332

[haughty sky]

are the servers dying or just me?

[steep orchid]

do scopemith trait work with single shot rifle?

springfield deadeye for example

[steep orchid]

i missed 3 arrow at 2 meter enemy

he didnt notice first 3shot

[whole furnace]

Nope

[steep orchid]

another 2 shot was miracle

[short halo]

No, you still leave ADS to reload

[urban steppe]

sigh

[steep orchid]

alright

[urban steppe]

they making me

do this

🥀

[gilded horizon]

well, i had a break for 2 years so im not a superfan of all the changes lol

[haughty sky]

you can type in search 'scopesmith' when equipping a weapon and it will only show weapons that are compatible with that trait

[steep orchid]

Huh

[loud prawn]

After 12 games i got one inferno

[steep orchid]

I have Springfield equipped

But scopemith are still visible

[urban steppe]

BILLIONS must spam

TRILLIONS even

[left orbit]

i know the feeling 😅

[haughty sky]

Go to your hunter. Go to equip a rifle. Go to search bar. type 'scopesm...' and it will only show things that are compatible

[left orbit]

the nonsense of subsonic for non silenced guns always baffles me

[haughty sky]

well it also shows the weapon you have equipped. so unequip your weapon first.

[whole furnace]

Yeaaaah, we had a period of some really bad choices, but we have mostly stabilized over the past year or so :)
So I'd say hang around, think it is only gonna get better from now on :D

[gilded horizon]

i belong to those who miss QS and remember when immolators were new xd

[steep orchid]

?

wrong reply

[fathom shale]

When choosing weapons, not traits

[whole furnace]

Go to the shooting range, equip two Uppercut P and try QS with them ;V

[steep orchid]

so search "scopemith" at weapon

[haughty sky]

like so.

[haughty sky]

ye

[steep orchid]

the way you trying to explain confused me

[haughty sky]

my b

[fathom shale]

Oh it's actually smart enough to not show single shot scoped weapons, had to go double check myself

I assumed it would just show all guns with scopes

But they did actually filter them out since they don't get any benefit even if they are also scoped

Same with officer carbine as it doesn't need it

[steep orchid]

i need shadow traitr

wrong reply again

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26324423

[left orbit]

lowl

[uneven flax]

i feel like i have to forever clean my own glasses when playing inferno

it blurry as shite bra

[steep orchid]

so inferno map

increased my gpu temp

by 5c

[fathom shale]

Makes sense

It's probably pretty hot to have all that fire around

[steep orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[onyx yew]

How do I unmute in game

[steep orchid]

Press M

[onyx yew]

Im on xbox

[steep orchid]

Did ur match mute itself?

Go to setting then

[fathom shale]

IIRC it's either up or down on the D pad

[onyx yew]

Theres like a blue mute thing on the bottom of my screen

[normal kayak]

diiba i have an "important" question

[onyx yew]

Alr time to.solo queue

[fathom shale]

Shoot

[normal kayak]

if im on hunt showdown and you ask me what mode im playing

and i say "hunt"

would you understand that im on bounty hunt

[fathom shale]

Yes

[onyx yew]

Where do u see that

[fathom shale]

I am on PC but the binds should be the same

[normal kayak]

@light sky diiba and heathen can understand why cant you

tsk tsk tsk

[light sky]

Let me beeee

[fathom shale]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-bee-damned-bee-i'll-be-damned-shrimple-its-as-shrimple-as-that-gif-9456218215943143153

[normal kayak]

change of plans i fucking suck im gonna run long ammo and crown shorty

WWWW

[light sky]

We just had a team do nothing but hiding in bushes and taking shots at us

even while we were fighting another team, did nothing

chased us across the map

did nothing

😭

[normal kayak]

i got a ping abuser comment

[fathom shale]

That's impressive, usually I have people hiding in bushes that aren't even taking shots and we are the ones taking 90% of the shots in the fight

[normal kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-14992135277364169509

[whole furnace]

Run mako then

[normal kayak]

im running berthier rn

mako next match

[whole furnace]

God speed

[steep orchid]

I like mako

But eggpensive

[whole furnace]

I like it too, but god it did not need that kind of buff lol

[steep orchid]

Explosion ammo peak

[whole furnace]

Would rather have had the mako get +5 in ammo reserve than this stupid cycle buff.
But then I guess console players would complain about explosive Mako spam lol

[light sky]

even with the buff, I barely see Makos

[hollow crescent]

^

[whole furnace]

I mean bc it is still not a mosin

[hollow crescent]

after like, the first week, mako usage kinda plummeted

[steep orchid]

Just need make mako bit cheaper

[light sky]

Mako is already cheap

for what it does

[hollow crescent]

isn't a mako like, only 300 something

[whole furnace]

That is what my biggest issue with these kind of buffs are, we keep bringing the lethality up and making weapons that was "decent" or "good" worse, but end of the day it still doesn't shift the overall meta.

[steep orchid]

360

[hollow crescent]

so only slightly more expensive than a berthier

[grave rose]

@light sky why

did u do this to me

[hollow crescent]

I feel like the addition of player cards / badges / stat showcase also made things a lot worse

if someone is grinding for mosin kills they're obviously not going to switch off to something else

[whole furnace]

Dunno, I am currently grinding for Martini Henry lvl 10 badge, so not relatable to me :V
But that said, that is at best a very surface level issue.

Game have just gotten more and more lethal over the years, but also players are getting more and more resilient with bar restore.
Which in turn just leaves some of the weaker weapons in the dust.

[hollow crescent]

even if it is surface level it still adds to the problem itself

given that on average it takes what, 500-600 kills per level 10 badge?

[whole furnace]

Around so yeah :)
Tho with a melee variant, you can cut it down by killing AI too :)

[royal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/baz-kitty-tuxedo-cat-padding-paws-gif-17712878

[haughty sky]

gonna scrum just lost 2 in a row 45+ level story characters I need at 50

[whole furnace]

a classic

[frigid kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-running-in-circles-pepe-spinning-spinning-pepe-gif-10951607057960614021

[royal cloak]

The humble chef.

[hollow crescent]

rip

this is why I grab catalyst, queue in solo and just run around and grab some sealed xp papers then dip

[haughty sky]

gonna scrum so loud

[uneven flax]

krag and dolch in clash...

[left orbit]

why not

clash i where you spill the money before prestiiiiige

[light sky]

what

[onyx yew]

Whats yalls favorite boss

[light sky]

To be fair, I think it was Rysko who got you

[normal kayak]

hey that was ME

im the fucking GOAT

[light sky]

we lobby wiped that match

[whole furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/rotjaw-speedrun-hunt-showdown-1896-bat-gif-13791057131319281439

[onyx yew]

I HAVENT SEEN HIM IN SO LONG WHERE IS HE?!

WHERES MA GATOR

[edgy nymph]

dead

[light sky]

She*

[onyx yew]

She mb

[whole furnace]

She is most likely on vacation while Biggolator is gonna be on a guest tour.

[onyx yew]

Biggolator?

[light sky]

Hellborn

[onyx yew]

EWWWW

We sacrificed the beautiful gator for that annoying mfer?

[whole furnace]

Basically

[light sky]

Hellborn only spawns during Inferno

[whole furnace]

Think that is the lore reason why everything is on fire atm

[light sky]

She keeps spawning in regular conditions

that are not inferno

[normal kayak]

she exists actually

[light sky]

like, I killed her a few matches ago

[onyx yew]

This game has lore?

[whole furnace]

Happens at times yeah

[onyx yew]

Im doing bounty hunt

[onyx yew]

Are we gonna get a new boss soon?

[whole furnace]

Eventually, but no eta

[fathom ether]

clash?

[onyx yew]

Any idea on what it could be

[light sky]

One day

It's hard to imagine what a new boss could be, they just do crazy stuff

[whole furnace]

Nope, Crytek haven't talked about it.
But a couple of years back they said something akin to: "we always working on new AI/bosses and always working on a new map".
Tho that might have shifted.

[normal kayak]

mcree i forgot to use the mako i fell in love with the berthier again ill use it NEXT match

[light sky]

I been wanting a werewolf for a while

[normal kayak]

i killed scarecrows team in 44 seconds

[onyx yew]

I want a rat

[light sky]

make a big hellhound or something

[whole furnace]

Naw just keep doing Berthie it that works :)

[normal kayak]

YYYYIPPEE

[whole furnace]

Go there next time you are on Gulch

[uneven flax]

[uneven flax]

outdoor boss please

it could be a centaur type

[steep orchid]

Gib

Big Rat boss

[onyx yew]

Go where?

Oh nvm

I see

God I hate rifles

[uneven flax]

i didnt know you can sneak up behind a firebreather, hit their head with a blunt weapon and they just plop dead

[whole furnace]

A heavy hit from a rifle does it too :)

[echo ridge]

been playing 5 games

is fire map kinda rare ?

[flint jetty]

its just random

i thinks

[onyx yew]

I googled it and theres nothing there

[whole furnace]

Just go there

Trust me

there is somethign

[onyx yew]

Why??? Thats super out of the way and it feels like your just trying to get me to go there so I cant go for the bounty

[echo ridge]

alr

[whole furnace]

I mean, sure, if you don't have a sense of whimsy you can skip it.

[left orbit]

there is something

[onyx yew]

I feel like yall are screwing with me

[left orbit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/animation-metal-stopmotion-3oEhmNef89Yv0hhZUQ

[onyx yew]

Cause why would they put something so far away

[normal kayak]

SIX SEVENNN

[whole furnace]

The devs likes to put weird/special easter eggs and world stuff out of the way :)

[left orbit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-mrw-breaking-bad-11z068pqgqbhHa

[onyx yew]

Uh huhh

Well im onw there rn

[normal kayak]

😊

[onyx yew]

Last game was amazing for me

Killed butcher solo then killed two rats

[left orbit]

how did you kill them?

[icy bay]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-burn-it-with-fire-fire-gif-12292700

[steep orchid]

With rat poison

[onyx yew]

I was trying to extract and they pulled up, I blasted one with a shotgun and they threw a bomb at me so I ran around and blasted the other

Alr im almost to that house

[whole furnace]

This is a real 1882 trap design btw.

[left orbit]

nice. the "they throw bomb i rush their face" works so well

[whole furnace]

The inventor did not fuck around

[onyx yew]

I dont see anything in this house

[whole furnace]

Go downstair?

[royal cloak]

🤫

[onyx yew]

I dont see a downstairs

[whole furnace]

Then you are not the right spot

The house should have a downstairs segment

[onyx yew]

Also I think ots impossible to have a maxed out hunter

[light sky]

@whole furnace I got an Important question

"Important"

[whole furnace]

Shoot

[light sky]

If a teammate asks me to invite them

and I tell someone else to do it

would you assume the other person is the leader, right?

[whole furnace]

@onyx yew

[normal kayak]

LMAOOO

[whole furnace]

Well, they would for sure be the lobby host

[light sky]

Thank you

[whole furnace]

But dunno about "party leader" if we talking about what happens during a match

[light sky]

nah, just taking revenge on Rysko for making fun of me

[mortal cove]

Time to make more fun of you then

[whole furnace]

I assumed so :V

[normal kayak]

something something need ned kelly skin

[onyx yew]

How tf do u fight the gator again

[normal kayak]

go in the water and just stare at where she last was

[light sky]

Hit and move to the sides

[normal kayak]

and when she tries to attack you run to the side

[light sky]

when she attacks

[normal kayak]

and she will miss

[onyx yew]

She bits me when im in the water

[normal kayak]

yeah so move left or right of her

and she will miss

[onyx yew]

I dont think i can solo this

[fathom shale]

Make sure you sprint perpendicular to where they are attacking from

[normal kayak]

hey its not my fault hes fucking stupid

[fathom shale]

To have enough speed to get out of the way

[normal kayak]

THATS THE WORD thank you

[mortal cove]

[onyx yew]

Yep I died to the alligator cause it one shot me

[normal kayak]

lock in marine

[light sky]

Lock in son

[left orbit]

lobby has an avto

i will chariot everyone

[onyx yew]

What is that i cannot tell

[onyx yew]

I had a shitty rifle and a crossbow while solo

[mortal cove]

Time to crank the engagement distance to 200m

[left orbit]

i will get kills even with machette at that distance anyways

[onyx yew]

I thought i liked the alligator but I was blinded by the reptile

[left orbit]

hears footsteps while i’m in the map
crank hunt volume up to 200%

[onyx yew]

Shit is annoying to fight

[left orbit]

bring a hammer. ez.

[onyx yew]

Wouldn't that be worse

[potent garden]

All 3 levels of Jesse Buchanan

Rookie Survivor & Veteran

All level 50

all with cross bow

[grave rose]

LMFAO i was like is that maiden and spooks cause i saw the froge clan tag

[left orbit]

froge

what does that even mean?

[onyx yew]

How tf do u even get them level one

Also im getting off this game for the night, shit is sweaty

[left orbit]

you need to bring each hunter to lvl 50 to unlock the next

[onyx yew]

Ik that but they always die

[left orbit]

well

ez fix: just don’t die

[onyx yew]

Kinda hard to when theres rats everywhere and im solo 80% of the time

[steep orchid]

How to not die

[left orbit]

stay alive

https://giphy.com/gifs/beegees-bee-gees-staying-alive-xUPGctGBglZmaSH9cI

☝️ trio staying alive

[onyx yew]

Plus the randoms on this game SUCKKKKK

[left orbit]

hey you’re a random too and you die

soooooooooo…

[steep orchid]

Blazing what region you're on

[onyx yew]

I dont queue with randoms

[steep orchid]

You should

[left orbit]

randoms are an experience

[onyx yew]

Us east but I should be us west since im in canada

[onyx yew]

I dont feel like having a teamate who wont talk

[steep orchid]

They will talk

In Chinese

[left orbit]

[steep orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-feel-that-neko-neko-nekoyamada-nekoyamada-gif-2253209676678293171

[left orbit]

i’m disappointed

avto trio prolly dead

2nd bounty team tried to approach 1st bounty team at port reeker

[onyx yew]

I should probably be sleeping since I got a job interview tn

[left orbit]

but they decided to extract because they’re big campers

[steep orchid]

Btw kalima i tried play asia region back

Took few matches

I dropped to 3*

[left orbit]

wtf

[steep orchid]

Went back to us west

Im back 4*

[onyx yew]

LEVEL 100?!

[royal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[onyx yew]

PRESITEGE 38

WTF

[left orbit]

u guys in Asia don’t play for fun it’s 100% tryharding

[steep orchid]

Carry when

[steep orchid]

Game just started 5min. They wiping whole team and chasing us down 😭

I got wallbang to death

I never had seen bounty hunt with 3team together in same ducking location

They didn't even care about bounty

We won tho but i died 5time in process

[left orbit]

just don’t die 5 times in process

[steep orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26324423

[left orbit]

just had an awesome hide-and-seek session in the open at scupper

clip on the way

they threw 2 other dyna before

in the same spot

"HE HAS TO BE THERE IT’S IMPOSSIBIRU"

[steep orchid]

pennyshot whiffed

[frank palm]

Anyone else having mad packet loss in OCE?

[steep orchid]

server cooked

i would miss that headshot

[uneven flax]

im starting to hate spammy guns. it makes me play like ASS

if i have slow cycle time guns im always moving around popping everyone from all angles

when i have spammy guns i play like garbage

oh no i missed all shots but 1 and now i crashed into a wall while reloading aand im dead

[dapper charm]

I have a feeling I would be one of the paid actors in this scenerio

[onyx yew]

That was such a good game for me

Killed both the bosses and 6 people

Whats the best traits to have

[whole furnace]

General insane traits:
Doctor, QM, Surefoot, Witness.

[left orbit]

we’ve all been paid actors 😌

[formal canopy]

I wouldn't mind if inferno was in the map pool permanently, but is very rare like 1 in 50 odds maybe for

[fervent flare]

Fellow hoonters how is the new inferno update ?
Any cheaters so far ?

[dapper charm]

Ran into one sketchy af guy in a 3 star lobby across like 6 hours of playing today, pretty tame im surprised

[fervent flare]

Where is the new AI anti cheat ?

[uneven flax]

headshotted a poor guy who was PvEing in the edge of the map. He had pure poison ammo lol. He didn't even get up

Then I extracted and turns out I didn't kill him. Looks like he essentially waited to be 1hp before reviving lmao

also OCE straight up full right now 🙁 my PvE servers...

[fervent flare]

[astral moss]

Lol that sound horrible.

[steep orchid]

it is

[dapper charm]

surely nothing could go wrong with this, totally

[steep orchid]

anti cheat doesnt work so they went for 3rd option

first eac

then ai ac

[whole furnace]

Hunt is still running on EAC

Just also using Anybrain

[steep orchid]

2 ac

[whole furnace]

Bc they do different things

[astral moss]

Doesn't make it a good thing.

[dapper charm]

its like the highway situation, if you stack up enough anticheats, surely all the cheaters will be gone

[uneven flax]

Like I said before. Anybrain seems like an analytics tool. It's not an anti cheat

[whole furnace]

Because?

[steep orchid]

ai also analytics tool to detect abnormal behaviour

[uneven flax]

People are scared of things they do not understand.

[steep orchid]

same same but different

[astral moss]

Ouga bouga

[fervent flare]

Keep those cheaters at bay

[whole furnace]

Yeah also people just really good at spewing secondhand shit instead of actually looking up what they talkin' about.
Such as "they are using the free version of EAC" and "EAC is not kernel level", which both is not true lmao

[uneven flax]

My gripe is why does Crytek have to announce what or who they're partnering with. It's not like theyre replacing EAC with something else. Do they also have to tell us if they're using Github or Bitbucket

[steep orchid]

they using gitlab

[whole furnace]

I don't mind the transparency :)

[dapper charm]

there are real people out there saying EAC is not kernel level? Where are they so I can give them a friendly reminder with a frying pan

[uneven flax]

Anybrain sounds like a hol load of nada for the community. Ok it helps your employees make better informed decisions for determining who is a cheater or not. Do we need to know if your employees also use google drive or onedrive

[neon glacier]

Im going to play inferno today

[uneven flax]

I think it's just to appease some people who are so annoyed or scared of Hunt due to cheaters

[dapper charm]

if it is directly affecting how cheaters are being caught, being open with the community is a good thing, i would think

[whole furnace]

Well it is one of those "outdated facts".
Bc yes, EAC didn't used to be kernel level, but as soon Vanguard hit the market a lot of the older AC systems adapted to that.

[neon glacier]

They got no other good announcements

[uneven flax]

however Anybrain themselves seem to advertise themselves as an AI anti-cheat

[astral moss]

They can't just watch the cheater play or a record of his pov to determine if they are cheating ?

[whole furnace]

Which is good imo, literally a win-win for everyone.

[dapper charm]

huh, i actually thought it was always kernel level, good to know

[uneven flax]

Maybe it's just not an automated anti cheat that is deeply rooted in your system like EAC or Vanguard

[fervent flare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-just-an-ai-parangosky

[neon glacier]

I just did an ai exam

[whole furnace]

It is a relative new concept.

[uneven flax]

How many manpower hours do you think that will take?

[astral moss]

Chat gpt anti-cheat when ?

[uneven flax]

That's where AIs come in. Especially if it's specifically trained on nothing but player behaviors and inputs

[astral moss]

Yeah so we are getting ban cause an IA detect that we are pressing button too fast ?

[whole furnace]

Bc that is what it is.
AI is kinda vague word nowadays.

[fervent flare]

As I mentioned before AI is finally put to good use

[uneven flax]

its not automated based on the blog post. so it's just a tool employees will use to help with decisions

[fervent flare]

It is AI not IA

[uneven flax]

in basic IT it's called a Decision Management System

[whole furnace]

It is not automated in the sense it issues bans.

[uneven flax]

ye

[astral moss]

Good to know.

[fervent flare]

Ban cheaters with AI

[whole furnace]

Dunno if this makes sense but to put it up simply:

• EAC is the bouncer at the door.
• Anybrain is the security watching the floor.

[astral moss]

Can we get any camera on this door way plz ?

[uneven flax]

Looks like Anybrain captures your gameplay themselves, then it shows a full, detailed report of what this player could be doing.

It should be able to watch your gameplay 24/7 and make more accurate and accurate reports as the time goes by.

then it poops out a full case study of each player kinda shit

so an extremely good RachtaZ level player can have 800/1000 good games. and it will determine that the player is not a cheater simply because of the data from the 200 bad games.

is the ELI5

[astral moss]

Lol imagine it use the spectate mode of hunt.

[mystic vapor]

make hunt free from ps plus!

[uneven flax]

which falls us back to your question. A human can only watch another human play, one minute per minute.

[astral moss]

Yeah so the AI is just gonna watch the player instead of an human.

[uneven flax]

meanwhile the AI can watch all 25000 of us at the same time, for a fraction of the cost

[delicate yarrow]

Would bring in a lot of new players

I’ve emailed crytek and Sony about it

Didn’t get anywhere

[fathom shale]

"watch" is not really the correct term

It will capture data like mouse movement and such

[mystic vapor]

true thats why i stay with pot

[whole furnace]

I am not sure how easy it is to make deals with ps+, but we already have gamepass so that might complicate it.

[uneven flax]

yes but with more sample data, since it could record all our games for all eternity, you eventually land into a good conclusion of whether this player is a cheater or not

it's just statistics

[delicate yarrow]

Pot?

Oh a game

[mystic vapor]

the passes get worse with every update always the same weapon skins

[delicate yarrow]

Do you not own hunt?

[mystic vapor]

i do

[uneven flax]

used to sub to game pass

[whole furnace]

No no, I meant Xbox Gamepass :)

[uneven flax]

now the price has triple

fak off

[mystic vapor]

lebel talon or something like maynard sniper talon

[astral moss]

You opinion, i find it good most of the time.

[neon glacier]

The game is on sale

[fathom shale]

Imo the last pass had the best skins we've had so far

[astral moss]

Not this time.

[mystic vapor]

dont need 20 romero or mosin skins

[uneven flax]

yeah this pass kinda ass. this battle kinda brittle. this bp kinda shitty

[mystic vapor]

lebel talon still no skin whos buyable

[astral moss]

We got an avto skin past BP.

[delicate yarrow]

We need a foot themed battle pass
Like how the padre has the hand
But toes

[fathom shale]

[mystic vapor]

didnt like it :p i only liked the specter whos glowing

[uneven flax]

hunt just needs to advertise like this

[mystic vapor]

also specter with pennyshot is the best

[delicate yarrow]

1000 sales day 1

[astral moss]

Ok Vally is maybe a troll but i need more data about it.

[whole furnace]

Also people keep complaining not having enough skins per pass, but doesn't realize it is literally this issue:

We used to have fewer, but higher quality skins in our passes

[mystic vapor]

you run never out of ammo and on console its pretty strong specter is fast.

[whole furnace]

But people thought it was too little.

[astral moss]

Ah the console.

It explain everything.

[mystic vapor]

imagine not getting headshoted from 300 meters amazing.

[delicate yarrow]

My only issue is I feel like the copy paste of skins being the same for all the guns is kind of meh, like for example, if you unlock a skin for the mosin it should just be then entire family instead of each tier having its own unlock of the same skin for a variant

[whole furnace]

Again then we back to people complaining about too few skins

[astral moss]

Yeah i know, you guys are lucky.

[delicate yarrow]

Happens still
Frequently enough…

[uneven flax]

give me 1865 skins.

[mystic vapor]

only on pc v_v

[whole furnace]

You not gonna get more skins if they grouped the unlocks together.

[uneven flax]

this 600 BB skins too expensib

[delicate yarrow]

We get dragged when there’s issues with PC hunt tho ‘oh it’s being console optimized’ naaaah

[neon glacier]

But you’re not getting more either ways

[delicate yarrow]

Eh I’m fine with not as many skins just make it. More streamlined
Get BBs as rewards or more charms
Something
Idc if it’s filler but it’s just weird to me getting the same skin through the whole pass

[whole furnace]

Yeah, but then the pass is gonna be shorter which people also complained about.

Like this is what you got from the premium pass back then.

(or and example)

[delicate yarrow]

Wasn’t it like 25 rewards originally?

[astral moss]

Idk about the bad optimization but you got a most fun version of hunt so you can't complain.

[neon glacier]

Then they need to work on battle pass

[mystic vapor]

need a fake astronaut skin

[delicate yarrow]

Can’t do like apex and have 110 levels

[astral moss]

And i missed it. T_T

[whole furnace]

Some as short as 20

[neon glacier]

They just don’t wanna work harder

[delicate yarrow]

Atleast rotate which guns get skins from each BP instead of the same few

[whole furnace]

20 levels, 6 skins total.
Tho that was before the "battlepass format".

[delicate yarrow]

I’m not disagreeing on any of your points, I’m just feeding convo

[mild quiver]

I do agree the battle pass skins have been pretty mid at best, but its not the main appeal of a event to me

[whole furnace]

Ye ye, no worries :)

[delicate yarrow]

Such a good event

The consumables that multiplied your event points went crazy

I wish I SS my highest round
It was ALOT

[delicate yarrow]

same

[mild quiver]

As long as the event game play is good, I dont really care about the battle pass

[whole furnace]

Well, what do you want from skins?
What is a good skin in your eyes?

[delicate yarrow]

I’m loving the map changes overall
I wish the bileweaver compound changes were still randomized across matches and I wish they had added more compounds to be messed with

[true swift]

I've heard stories from a friend of mine that leveling this event was the worst shit ever haha

[mild quiver]

I like the skins from desolation wake

[delicate yarrow]

I completed it but I have friends that played then too that didnt

[mild quiver]

Tide trilogy skins are really nice as well, but I was not playing the game yet unfortunately

[delicate yarrow]

It was so early on I don’t remember it being too hard but I can’t compare it either as my memory sucks

[errant orbit]

Im on the last page of the BP, but it feels like its taking ages considering the hours i play daily

[whole furnace]

Like, even when we have few skins per event, it also meant that each skin was more unique, so if you didn't care for a specific skin, you had good odds for another of the 7-9 other skins being to your liking.
With the new structure, we get like 2-3 "skin-lines", so if you hate one of the lines you are already low on options.

[delicate yarrow]

Tide skins good

I miss serpent moon time of day, idk why it’s not in rotation even without the green just big moon, more light

[true swift]

It's live till like the end of may you have plenty of time

[delicate yarrow]

Ashbloom also was great

[true swift]

Was this event the biggest cosmetic drop we've gotten?

[mild quiver]

not a popular take

[whole furnace]

It was a 50/50, you had the nice golden and the centipede skins, so guess you were lucky :P

[delicate yarrow]

Definitely feels like challenges reward more for BP than overall game play, in the past you could get away with just playing how you wanted

[true swift]

The centipede skins and hunter 💀

[whole furnace]

Depending on what exactly you mean with "biggest cosmetic drop"

[delicate yarrow]

It’s basically thunder shower just different

The audio drown is the same

[mild quiver]

shade drifter is also one my favorite skins

[true swift]

Amount of skins in a single event

[whole furnace]

That was the event after :)

[whole furnace]

Again, unique skins or just skins in general?

[fathom shale]

Same could be said that the previous system meant if you didn't like a specific variant the skin happened to be made for, you were likely to also be unhappy

[true swift]

Unique

[fathom shale]

So both have their upsides and downsides

[delicate yarrow]

Can’t wait for the story challenges to be neglected then removed in a year from now like every other side feature too

I miss trails

Trials?

[true swift]

Trials yeah

I did get all stars but it was frustrating as hell lol

[whole furnace]

Think all of the tide events have around 9-10 uniques

excluding charms

[delicate yarrow]

Same
After finishing it I used them to warm up pre match

[mild quiver]

I didnt realize but youre right, scorced earth had some nice skins too after going back to check

[delicate yarrow]

I guess shooting range works for that too now but it feels hallow in ways
without friends
Can’t use the new bots with friends tho

[mild quiver]

Personally not a huge fan of the recent skins but it does not mean they are awful

[whole furnace]

100%
But also a lot of work to ensure when you make a unique skin, all the variants gets one too.

[mild quiver]

I still just buy the battle pass because it basically pays for it self

[delicate yarrow]

Next battle pass needs feet based skins

Give me a hunter I can look down and see toes in the mud

[true swift]

I do think it's strange that the schofield and new armies have seperate skins for their swift variants

[mild quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-that's-crazy-mark-philips-rdcworld1-that's-wild-oh-really-gif-12615743905111705451

[true swift]

The model literally has no changes lol

[fathom shale]

Probably less than having to make entirely unique concepts for different weapons, once they get the base concept and all that down it's not that bad to implement the same for the other variants too

[whole furnace]

I am mostly happy about the current format, but I just really dislike the skins designs we get nowadays.
They tend to look very fake and overdesigned.

[delicate yarrow]

You walk outside bare foot and slip in some wet mud and don’t look down and see them piggies covered?

[hoary pecan]

Why don't people like ghost face again

[delicate yarrow]

Realism

[whole furnace]

Legacy design

[delicate yarrow]

The PM skins almost ruined it for me

[true swift]

I think it's more immersion than realism

[delicate yarrow]

The circus was fun gameplay wise atleast

[true swift]

and keeping a unique identity

[delicate yarrow]

I wanna immerse my toes in the bayou

[hoary pecan]

In the game with a super natural cosmic being that makes a plague and revives disfigured things

[fathom shale]

This is probably one of my favorite skins

[whole furnace]

I think the I really hate the spider, death pact and wilderness skins and we get them so often now lol

[mild quiver]

I dont walk bare foot in the mud wtf lmao

[true swift]

From that pass this is the one i dislike the least

All the other ones are overdesigned imo, don't really fit the game too well.

[delicate yarrow]

Return to nature my child

[delicate yarrow]

Do they not have feet?

[mild quiver]

I think corrosion is nicer but I cant get it 😮‍💨

[hoary pecan]

Assassin doesn't I guess, he's bugs

[delicate yarrow]

You’re telling me some of the female Native American hunters wouldn’t have had them dogs out kicking in the mud?

[true swift]

Death Pact skins would be so peak if they didn't have skulls all over them. It reeks of edgy 14 year old.

[delicate yarrow]

Bugs have feet

[delicate yarrow]

The new fuses are clean atleast

[whole furnace]

Lol yeah

[hoary pecan]

Yeah but he's not the bugs, he is bugs

[hoary pecan]

Voice of the people

[true swift]

They're ok. the skulls looks stupid af still

reminds me of that bad to the bone meme with the skulls on the gear shift

[delicate yarrow]

Facts

[true swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kVFce1M_QQ

[delicate yarrow]

I like a clean skin
Only reason those look nice imo
I don’t run them cuz as mentioned before
Cringe

They are either clean with chrome skulls, or dirty and rugged

Can’t have clean and elegant without it being post Malone

[mild quiver]

Post malone skins and the entire event was garbage imo, legit the only event I stopped playing the game for

[true swift]

Idk i just didn't buy the pass

[mild quiver]

Played like the last couple days to complete the battle pass but truly dark times

[zinc dagger]

Will the scout towers be in the game after the event? I hope so

[delicate yarrow]

Gameplay was aight other than getting wallbanged at the tent 11/10 times there

[whole furnace]

Most likely not, but based on feedback, they might return

[mild quiver]

suppressed krag, explosive shredder, maynard suppressed, pocket crown, and blademancer 🤢 🤢 🤢

[delicate yarrow]

I loved blade manger

[true swift]

I like that we're getting the circus and bileweaver nests back as random map spawns next month, i hope that sticks around

[mild quiver]

How they packed so much trash into 1 event is truly one of histories mysteries

[delicate yarrow]

Blademancer*

Without the pullout damage it isn’t a big deal

[true swift]

One of the events of all time rofl

Explosive old shredder having defenders baffles me to this day

[delicate yarrow]

I’m not big on the suppressed Maynard sniper
Especially dumdum
Bad idea

[delicate yarrow]

I never ran into it a lot

[true swift]

I think the normal maynard is fine but the supressed should really be gutted

[mild quiver]

If they fully removed everything that was added from murder circus 1.0, it would make the game better imo

[delicate yarrow]

It’s probably the same people who run frag bow and Xbow explosive

[true swift]

I ran into it basically every match, it was unavoidable.

[hoary pecan]

What's bad from murder circus I don't remember

[mild quiver]

murder circus 2.0 was fine, 1.0 was heinous

[true swift]

Hits through cover, homing and fast firing

it was the game on autoplay

[raven totem]

@mortal nebula I got overtime sorry

[whole furnace]

2.0 up to Murder Circus was just Crytek keep trying to kill their own game.
I am even cynical enough to say it already started at Tide of Corruption.

[mild quiver]

suppressed krag, explosive shredder, maynard suppressed, pocket crown, and blademancer

[whole furnace]

Sorry, heat seeking explosive shredder!

[true swift]

crouch hipfire uppercut precision

lol

[delicate yarrow]

I just hate the UI everything else is pretty meh

[hoary pecan]

I'm not good enough at the game to know what most of those are off name

[true swift]

how did that get past testing

[delicate yarrow]

They don’t test lmfao

[light sky]

Why would they

[whole furnace]

Man, Uppie P was sucha an uncalled for addition.
Nowadays it is just a meme, but god why

[mild quiver]

a scoped suppressed sniper, long ammo suppressed, 2 slot crown and king, nearly full auto explosive cross bow, and a perk that made it so you can remove arrows (with the damage) from range

[hoary pecan]

Didn't know we got our ideas from israel

[true swift]

I think the mosin match has overtaken it in my eyes as the most redundant addition to the game

it quite literally adds nothing

[hoary pecan]

What's a crown and king

[light sky]

Auto 5

[whole furnace]

Oh- Uppie P was not uncalled for bc it was redundant, on the contrary, it made the best pistol in the game even bester!

[delicate yarrow]

Brother go play the game

[light sky]

They changed the name

so makes sense why they don't know, lol

[true swift]

Idk i think adding what is effectively just a better version of an, at the time, already very strong weapon is redundant in the sense that it's not really anything new

[delicate yarrow]

Ima get dragged for this but I liked gun runner

[mild quiver]

upper cut precision should be shown some love, uppermat out classes it in nearly every way (except sway) and has the shotgun under barrel

[delicate yarrow]

Not for 2 large weapons, looting ammo was top tier

[whole furnace]

Naw, they need to do a whole ass balance overhaul if they want those guns to make sense

[true swift]

I think the uppercut statwise is fine tbh, i don't think it should go back to it's old stats in the current state of the game

no one remembers the uppercut meta

[delicate yarrow]

Blade mancer without pullout damage was also sweet for throwing knives

[true swift]

lol

[delicate yarrow]

Good times

Who needs a rifle when you got an uppercut

[mild quiver]

uppermat has 510 velocity vs 410 on the upper cut precision, 9 rounds instead of 6, faster rate of fire, and the shotgun under barrel

[true swift]

Yeah man, not bringing an uppercut effectively gutting your ability to play was a great time.

[delicate yarrow]

The reload time anymore is abysmal but it dosent need buffed lmfao

[delicate yarrow]

More sway

[mild quiver]

nearly irrelavent stat compared to everything else

[hoary pecan]

I like the bornheim 🙂 I love my secondary slot derringer

[true swift]

The uppermat velocity buff was so unecessary looking back, its already good statwise why even up the ms lol

[mild quiver]

It just completely out classes the uppercut precision in a huge way its crazy

Some of the balancing makes 0 sense

[whole furnace]

Uppie P has 15 reserve bullets.
But as I said, there need to be changed a lot of fundamental things to balance those guns

[mild quiver]

uppermat has 18 bullets 9 loaded 9 in reserve

So does the uppercut p its 6 loaded 12 in reserve

[whole furnace]

6 loaded 15 reserve.

[true swift]

No its 12

regular uppercut has 9

[whole furnace]

Sigh

2 sec

[whole furnace]

Ye, just doing some crosschecking bc the 2.4 patch notes said otherwise

[mild quiver]

Like I said uppermat is a straight upgrade it makes no sense

Its also just cheaper than the uppercut precision on top of being straight up better

[true swift]

Mistake in the notes maybe?

I don't remember it having 15

[whole furnace]

Yeah, me neither, checking with the team lol

[mild quiver]

its 18 bullets for both uppermat and precision uppercut 100%

[whole furnace]

Uppercut has less sway.

[mild quiver]

at the cost of 100 velocity, reduced rate of fire, no shotgun under barrel, and 3 less bullets loaded

Its clearly not balanced

[whole furnace]

Oh yeah 100%

Just still something it has going for it lol

[true swift]

Unrelated but not naming this skin ''infernus'' and instead going with ''out the ember'' was such a missed opportunity lol. 0 Aura name.

[mild quiver]

and the sway difference is basically negligible

[whole furnace]

Personally I would up the LeFat's damage and severly hit its MV.

So like big fucking gun

[true swift]

Ranger Sequia

[mild quiver]

Uppercut precision is a vibe but its lowkey trolling to run it over the uppermat

[outer iron]

I wish the long ammo pistols bullets carried damage at distance. Haymaker losing all that muzzle velocity instantly the moment you bless it with fmj.

[mild quiver]

Give precision uppercut faster weapon swap speed

[true swift]

I like this skin for it, so i run it

[gusty onyx]

Stat wise yes, but i prefer the uppercut ironsight over the lemats anyday

[outer iron]

I bet that precision has way less kick than haymaker. Which is a good selling point.

[mild quiver]

I just dont think there should be such a disparity between uppermat and precision uppercut, when functionally they serve nearly identical rolls but haymaker just does it better and is cheaper

[tawny depot]

Haymaker has no sway though

[gusty onyx]

But tbf, lately im enjoying the bornheim match more than any of the long ammo 2slot weapons 😄

[mild quiver]

sway on precision uppercut is 87 vs 100 on the uppermat like come tf on that is nothing

13 sway diff or 100 velocity, faster rate of fire, shotgun under barrel, and 3 more bullets loaded

its a clear choice and its not even close

[delicate yarrow]

If we had bare feet in game we could press a button to grip the ground with our toes so that we were more stable while shooting 👀

[mild quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[whole furnace]

Well, TO BE FAIR!
When the LeFat came out it had a sway of 130 (like all other non-stock 2-slots).
But, the root of all hunt's fucked state of balance, 2.0 dropped and Crytek decided that was too much and buffed all 2-slot rifles bc lol

[mild quiver]

thats kind of my point the balancing on it makes 0 sense

[delicate yarrow]

Does anything they do make sense?

Occasionally

Player influx and retention would explode if they made the female hunters bare foot and let you look down at them
Should also add an inspect

[whole furnace]

I makes sense, like the bullshit is consistent, but issue is that there is no regard or room for actually detailed adjustment.
Crytek usally always do sweeping changes and then tries to fix the collateral down the line.

[mild quiver]

I disagree that it makes sense, it would be such a easy thing to actually balance but they just make insane choices with balancing

[whole furnace]

That is the issue, not really, because Hunt has "rules"

[mild quiver]

To be clear you're saying uppermat having faster rate of fire, 100 more velocity, shotgun under barrel, and 3 more bullets loaded compared to uppercut p makes sense? While also being cheaper btw

[true swift]

It has also a lot of people who want to keep the status quo alive so they probably won't ever do big meta changes that will actually shake things up in a meaningful way across the board

[mild quiver]

You might have a future in the crytek balancing team

😆

[whole furnace]

It makes sense within the rules they have made for the game yes.
Which is why I say there is the disregard for detailed adjustment bc they rather adhere to general rules.
And the LeFat actually DOES have some specific adjustment that breaks some of those rules.
Its bullet drop.

[outer iron]

I've used haymaker more than upper precision. So I don't know for certain how much better one is over the other. But I liked using precision deadeye. Felt like I was nailing more shots with that than the haymaker.

[whole furnace]

I am not saying it is balanced

Or it should be like that

[heady dove]

Bounty clash is even more miserable than I thought. I played with my friends yesterday and didn’t win once. But when we were doing clash I was genuinely fuming, but during hunt, I was significantly more calm

[true swift]

It probably doesn't help that you don't get a lot of rewards

[outer iron]

Do free hunters.

[mild quiver]

If its not balanced it does not make sense imo, so I guess we just fundamentally disagree on what it means for something to make sense in terms of game balance

[delicate yarrow]

Slow players or spam
Only 2 ways to play it sadly

[whole furnace]

Again, am I not saying it is balanced

[heady dove]

Being slow doesn’t even work because the matches are 15 minutes

Just a miserable time all around

[delicate yarrow]

Sorrry other players playing slow and spamming

Both styles annoy me

I don’t mind clash but it does make me much angrier than hunt

[delicate yarrow]

I know how to balance the whole game but no one will listen

[whole furnace]

I am just saying, by the design philosophy hunt is built upon.
The LeFat makes sense.
But they can change things with it to make it more balanced.

[astral moss]

Yeah me too bro.

[mild quiver]

Well from a game balance perspective uppermat is objectively better at the same role compared to uppercut precision while also being cheaper, which in my mind is not balanced and makes no sense

I dont think we view game balancing in the same light

[whole furnace]

No you are just caught up on different things.
We both want it to balanced, we both acknowledge it imbalanced.
But I just look at the history and path why the gun ended up in the place it is rn and can see the steps.

[delicate yarrow]

The best way to balance the game would be to add bare feet to the game and let you inspect them, because then you’d be too worried about enjoying them to complain about gunplay, stylistically it makes sense anyways between the native Americans and the fact that you’d lose your shoes in that type of situation anyways

[outer iron]

Very well. The only solution is to slash the price on the uppercut (and drilling because jfc)

[mild quiver]

The history means nothing to me, whatever the reason behind it being unbalanced still just makes it unbalanced. That is why I said we clearly dont have the same perspective on this topic

[true swift]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-waitaminute-gif-26448308

[mild quiver]

Its veery easy to see why uppermat is better and would be easy to fix to bring the two weapons in line with each other

[whole furnace]

Okay, well, then we might make mistakes that ends up with the Haymaker or Uppercut being more imbalanced.
The history and context is important how to gauge where to adjust something for the better.

[delicate yarrow]

I run the UP over the haymaker

[delicate yarrow]

Would you prefer the UP be stronger than the haymaker?

If all the guns have the same stats there’s no point in variety, it’s like the long ammo guns, they’re all pretty much the same anymore

[mild quiver]

I would prefer the disparity between the two to be reduced, idc which direction they go of buffing the upper cut p or nerfing the uppermat

[mortal nebula]

please do not nerf the uppermat

[outer iron]

Give uppercut p. bullet drop like a rifle then I'll use it over haymaker.

[delicate yarrow]

Buff the upper mat and nerf the uppercut precision?

That’s a weird choice

Oh I read that backwards

Does the haymaker have a longer barrel?

Because that would make it have more efficient powder burn resulting in faster speeds and less drop at distance, as well as tighter groups

‘Muh realism’

[mortal nebula]

pff this game is NOT realistic

[delicate yarrow]

I know, needs more toes

[mortal nebula]

the only "realistic" part of the game is that people die in oneheadshot

[delicate yarrow]

That’s not always the case tho

Irl

9/10 probably

[mortal nebula]

yeah theres plenty of places you can get shot in the head and live

[whole furnace]

Ideally I would like LeFat to have 125 damage, but lower MV than the Uppercut.
Issue just that having sub 400m/s would be abysmal for a 2-slots especially when we consider how bullet drop would be affect.

[mortal nebula]

as long as nothing directly hits a vein or your brain/brainstem you can survive with treatment

[mild quiver]

insanely unpopular take considering the nerfed uppercut to not have 125 damage. Than uppermat would have 125 damage on top of every other advantage it has? makey no sensey

[mortal nebula]

me when obrez extended exists

[whole furnace]

Please read what I wrote lol
Higher damage, lower MV, that is already a big drawback

[heady dove]

Isn’t the uppermat also a 2 slot

[mortal nebula]

yeah

[mild quiver]

Yeah I stand by what I said, I read it correcly the first time

[whole furnace]

Also Uppercut P with 125 damage was not what people hated, it was the 1-slot, zero bullet drop Uppercut that was the issue.

[mortal nebula]

pre nerf uppercut was an experience

[pale socket]

indubitably

[heady dove]

I remember uppercut pistol meta

[mortal nebula]

uppercut shotgun

[heady dove]

It was just objectively better than most non long rifles