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6 + 5 = 4 team MMR noice
but its duo just noticed
that lowers match mmr
nvm
If only D:
Last I checked my solo match MMR was 5.5*
playing on EU 6 gets u matches against other 6s. doing the same on NAE ur fighting 4 starts and 3 stars why is that
It does depend on match mmr
but then also EU typically has higher population so more players around that MMR typically
hm i woudl have thought its pretty even
The worse mmr system
?
and kda
no lmao like half the playerbase is just eu

But not KD, I need that for my meme
And asia
Asia queue are fast
alright only u keep it
But not gonna play there
Superb
if u wanna play on asia just play on eu
fast and full of 4*s lmao
all of asia is there already
Asia server not enough
Proof ?
i need to move to eu so i can run low ping populated servers

instead of playing decent servers on 250
Under 200 still playable
never seen that before
thanks for letting me know
I'm solo v duo so I'm .5 star mmr matches
2 star overall
eu servers are not decent tho 😭 its a campfest
yeah but theres people
Not people
square square square and russians with iffy gameplay
what do you mean
The worse
worse than what
you can' tmake a comparison without having something to compare it to
than what? It need comparison?
dont mean to be rude but are you learning english?
2* with 6* calculate mmr lobby 3*
English not my first lang 
they just meant worst clearly
English are weird like UK eng with US eng has different wording
They’re very similar, just slightly different spelling for some words
Like different and difference
Like:
Honor (US)
vs
Honour
That's not one of them 
I thought same thing for worse and worst
The different and difference
Not quite
Like those two things are different or there is a difference between them
So we use both depending on context
See. Now make thing even confuse
Like scooter said it's moreso like adding a random u
Example:
1.) “The difference between an apple and an orange is.. ”
2.) “These apples and oranges are different“
English is a bunch of other languages in a trench coat
Lish
ah yes good dlc 👍
English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
For honor..?
So that's why English is the language I hate the most! It's just Gibberish with an E!
This sounds about right
yup we eat chicken from chickens but we eat beef from cows
make it make sense
we eat pork from pigs
if thats what you were asking
the lizard people are all in the usa anyways
Sad, new trailer has embedded black bars 
Oooooh that's right! They got lizard people, we got Sas mate and the other bush wookies.
omg
i called some people bush wookies the other day to my team and they were like "wtf is a bush wookie"
Head down to the bush and find out
Beef is called beef because of the French
Learned the hard way why Ghillie T3 is not to be messed with in his territory
Or hers
Either or
yeah we stole their word and stopped them ruling us so they got beef with us now
They kept the peasant term of cow for the animal but the rich posh word for the meat
English confuses me for one reason
The words change into insults depending where in the country you are or from
The astronauts are home
its all about intent
Yeah but there's one's that have a reputation that regardless how you mean it
It's got that rep
also anything can be used to infer your state of drunken-ness if you add -ed on the end
Cuteed
like this one time i got absolutely gazeboed
Yeah it's why we say someone's pissed when they get on the piss
proper desktopped
those were examples im not rich enough to buy alcohol in this economy
I got alt f foured last night
see! it works
Yeah hence why we call it piss, it's dirt cheap and tastes like shiet
But enough bottles will make it tastes like anything
Darn breaks over
Y'all have a good one Hunting
Peace
Ima sleep, not hunt
are explosive crossbow bolts still in the game
yes but scare
"jUsT rUn"
How to become Wolverine for about 10 minutes:
hit a 4 shot boon, then use these cards: Sun, Sun, Judgement, Judgement
whats the first thing emperess gives?
Sloppiest trade of my life
sigh
if i only got one slot left will it give necro or somethin else?
My brain shut down the moment ripping the arrow out didn't kill him.
Imma spend 25k on mollys for inferno 
Catalyst, then necro, then random scarce trait
you mean shadow leap cause thats all i ever get
sigh
shadow leap is either actually useful as a way to reposition/escape or an actual death trap its crazy
ive shadow leaped into an enemy next to my teammates before and immediately got javelined by an enemy hunter
and then my trio died to melee after the solo necro'd
:<
yknow what, I would rather get wallbang onetapped by a shot bolt any day over fmj
buff shot bolt 
I’ve shadow leaped into grunts the millisecond they were meleed more than once and gotten instantly stabbed in the head
I’ve stopped trying
I wouldn't even be mad about the shadow leap incident, if anything it'd be funny, if it weren't for the fact that I literally only died cause they had no comms and then choked so horribly over a solo that they missed 3 shots pointblank after the solo necro'd and ran to melee them
right after I said they're gonna necro too

I think they even switched to their pistol over their primary
I know this isn't the perfect spot for YT videos, but halp me celebrate my final* kill for prestige 100 🤠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noy_q_QUORo
*final kill was actually wiping the bounty team with a satchel, but that's not even my fault
how
good to see ya!
good job
someone called us the hard r and i went to report him but whenever i would hit hate speech/verbal abuse his account would just turn into a bunch of Ws and i couldnt select anything or type the reason
wtf is ur monitor
like it was just impossible to get it through
im not sure if winfield headshots affect my shotbolt wallbang not killing but
good shot
I’ll never get used to your monitor size 
I both like it and dislike it
you can also report people on the crytek site
vile
!report
If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab in your Last Mission section on the home page. Select the player -> Open Profile -> Report. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time.
If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support
**Please note that you can still report people even if you don't have their SteamID or cannot open their profile by providing your own SteamID, time of the incident with a time zone and region on the Hunt Showdown website (link is in the in the Customer Support channel). **
**Hiding statistics/profiles does not prevent reporting. **
wouldnt that distort most games
It's mostly peripheral immersion, since you focus on the center of the screen anyways.
your cat looks photoshopped in
I would make fun of ultrawide, but OLED always gets a pass
how do you even keep track of whats happening on the sides
Hunt's HDR is easily one of the best PC HDR experiences on the market, it's beautiful
🤣 🤣
Here's a comparison #hunt-general message. Not really getting the full sense of it viewing on a 16:9 though. Everything extra is in peripheral vision, you have to move your eyeballs to actually look at the extra field of view to make use of it, and that meant taking your eyes off your crosshair. This is the same height as a 27in, so you can't sit too far back or you just plain can't see what's on the screen.
Also some Horizon screenshots, great for single player games. #hunt-general message
yeah it can be really nice for singleplayer games but in multiplayer especially pvp i'd want to see my whole fov comfortably without moving my eyeballs alot
but if you got used to it then thats good
Like I feel claustrophobic almost playing a first person game in 16:9 now.
I kind of wish hunt showdown had a solo mode where everyone is solo (don’t crucify me)
they tried that a long time ago and it turned into a campfest
You mean that one mode that maybe has one or 2 players since they added Bounty Clash? What was it called, oh Soul Survivor.
Damn they actually had that
Fuck
That would have been sick I wish I was there
Isn’t the Soul Survivor mode like that?
I like soul survivor :<
good warmup
it was way back though like in alpha or something
Wait
I’m new to the game I didn’t know they had a solo mode
What’s soul survivor like exactly
I’ll try it out
squire to riches
It’s like Battle Royale
Whatttt
No way
I never saw this on the game
Ok I’ll be playing this instead of sleeping
Welcome to the hunt. 
I have 11 hours on hunt already and I started like 2 days ago lol
on g
petition to replace the Soul Survivor tier 1 hunters with exclusive dope-ass Tier 3s
give peeps a reason to play it more, bigger lobbies, profit
or lock a progressive hunter behind surviving soul survivor to start progressing
how did dude survive 
I got a couple good games before the matchmaking for it died and went to Bounty Clash. #hunt-general message
clash is poppin' today
this is the frame where you pulled the trigger it seems
so that first shot is already cooked
and the 2nd shot
that was recoil
my iron sight showed right on chest tho?
that was not recoil, I was going through frame by frame
you had him at the chest, but at the last moment you drifted over to the right
shouldnt ads with buckshot anyway
^^
easier to aim with hipfire and the spread isnt any different on ads
if you're not using slug, there is no point to ADS
That was pre-recoil, this is right after trigger pull
funny you say that, because they did have that back in the day for soul survivor
you had options between all 3 tiers
but ever since 1986, well
maynard needs nerfing?
I wish soul survivor queues weren’t so long
nerf nagant pistol
on j
huh, my eyes playing me when i shot
@CRYTEK can you guys gift cowboy beetles from time to time? so I can do prestige
that should still do good amount damage
exactly
survived 2nd shoot on thigh
You can repurchase them currently
nerf the springfield
no dumdum ammo for springfield
What nooooo I got to inflict maximum pain to my opponent
I really did have a moment like that today
Except that was me and not my teammates
We all have those moments
i had 1 minute left on the clock and i took a 1v3 and won it
was this guy replaced instead of the badhand one?
He’s in the store
I just want my homeless singer in his underwear
you can get any bb hunter along with tribute exclusive hunters through dark tribute
so
oh cool thanks, havent played in a while so didnt know
And to confirm
You can't get DLC stuff through that?
Noice.
nice so I got quite lucky then
one more question do they still do those gun skins for like 34 bb
cool thanks just bought it
sometimes they're good
i snatched undertaker for the officer a bit ago
goated skin
I mean that's a matter of taste anyway
I like Hailstorm for Mosin SR, not that I get to play it a lot
I know some folks that hate fancy guns like their life depends on it.
At least we get a metal gear solid 3 quote with it usually.
Lavish Farewell says ‘Hi’ 😂
buddy thinks bunny isnt one of the best skins in the hane
Huh
i dont even know when but the game gave me bunny sniper
so abysmal
it also gave me bears tooth
i don't know where these skins are comign from
Bunny is fine IMHO
i didnt buy them
it's so ugly
bait? 🤔
No, not ugly, just not gritty enough for you I guess
bears tooth is dogwater though
yea i use my empty cairn 90% of the time
Empty Cairn Bayonet let’s go
its on reg mosin now 😔
I don’t have that one, health issues for a year 🙂
For me it will always be a John Victor Mosin Bayonet 😄
The only ones I have of that one on regular Mosin are the 2 in my inventory from dead hunters
Is there a new 38bb item, or does it reset next week
That was free
from what though
I can't say I just remember it was 0BBs
i think the terminus shorty came today
i didnt buy it 😭
That is what getting something for free can entail.
Yeah, nvm
I keep buying every DLC hoping there will be past BPs to grind, maybe region lock if God is good.
no :( i was really sad the lemat carbine didnt win the contest
exactly, it makes exactly zero sense why they won't have hunters matching your bloodline level available
Ah the Evil Eye one
Would be nice though, as a 11-13ms EU player I hate getting killed by ‘teleporting’ hunters 😂
ping is not teleporting people 😭
I know how Ping works
it certainly stands out
but that blue ain't it I'm afraid, it's too gaudy for hunt's general aesthetics
even most of the gold plated skins we have aren't this bright
Don’t start, you know what I mean
i would've looked great in game
i honestly do not
Alright
On my screen it’s a HS with Lebel MM, server confirms it’s a HS, still get a trade with that guy while I clearly shot first
It’s rare enough not to matter, but it sucks
so did bears tooth and woodwurm 💔
and they turned out awful in game
Wormwood?
i started playing in augest not my problem
community tries to not vote for mosin skin challenge (impossible)
bears tooth isn't as bad as wormwood, but I wouldn't go out of my way to use it since I have other better skins
not like I even use the mosin to begin with anyway
Mosin is fun, not that I play it myself 90% of the time 😂
I mostly play Cent/Winnie
Ranger Swift FMJ levering is the goat
Where’s Slither 🙁
skin event !
Yesh
Most of the swift skins are event only
Moutain king the goat 🙏
Sugoma
What’s sugoma
wtf...
Point for me
True marksman, you see
Only thing that’s nice about the frontier for once, is that the charm is hanging on the side, without the low resolution rope
Elephant skin from last BP or something
my glorious goat skin
So beautiful
my favorite skin is probably either redmartin or kamacite moon
yall play the crown with pennyshot to use the crown. I play with the crown pennyshot to give my penny derringer more ammo. 
anyone know why i cant retire him?
hire another hunter
well hey look at that
yea idk why they did it like that
you shot underneath his right arm
anyone taking forever to match make tonight? it's been horrible for me
Smurfs starting new accounts maybe
can someone tell me how they got the dlc? Lol
i think content creators and streamers can get early access to skins
he sold amogus
interesting
u were right
When we getting an obrez in hunt

they gotta add a ghillie skin for the maynard suppressed
They gotta remove the Maynard suppressed
cap
Wtf? = “I think that’s lame one week before release.”
Time to become a ‘Streamer’ 😂
We should mute @verbal path
i think i just encountered
my first
exploiter
💀
dude was like decently far away and he was using Nagant m1895
he didnt miss a shot
2 body shot and 1 headshot ( he did this to the 3 of us )
Might just be handsome and talented, could also be a obese cheater
he DIDNT miss a shot
i would think he just very cool
but he washitting my teammate who was ina bush
Bushes will derender depending on the distance and his settings, just a heads up
true
fair enough
i guess he really is that nutty with the secondary
misses 0 shot
I got a hypothetical but what if all the the compact ammo 3 slots (not including the LeMat/Officer Carbine, so basically just the Marathon and Winnies) had the speed-loader by default similar to how some weapons have a stripper clip reload.
I don’t think it would affect the Marathon because it would just remove the base variant.
Wouldn’t affect the Ranger 73 cause most people just run the Swift anyway (Would probably see some more Apertures/Talons though since they can be brought without sacrificing anything now).
It would mainly affect the Frontier 73C and Infantry 73L since they don’t get access to a fast reload. So how do you think it would affect these two weapon families and their place in the “meta”?
It would not change much, most people already use the ranger for levering because it has a faster rate of fire and the speed loader. Infantry and marathon is for clicking heads with hv and less about levering imo the reload is not a problem for what it does
Marathon already has the quick reload variant as well
amogus
Sort of makes you wonder why they don’t just have them by default then. It’s not like the stripper clip weapons only get em with a swift variant.
Some cheap weapons especially compact ammo weapons, are made to be "bad" intentionally
I dont agree with balancing by price by that is all that boils down to
Couldn’t they just add the speed-loader and then raise the price?
Very strange design choice regardless.
I'd rather js make price matter tbh
Cause making price matter would fix many problems at once as well
Like make the better weapons more expensive or make hunt dollars harder to get?
Do you mind if I copy paste a game idea rq
Would just be faster
fuh naw
finna play some RU
Finally oce fellas have somewhere to go
Didn't realise they moved the Russia servers here
yeah RU is in my house or something
RU is inside you
Can you come over rq so I can play too
freaky

She hunt on my showdown till i 1896
this is a rather polarizing idea depending on the numbers
either this does completely nothing, or it'll just screw over the high 6s that run long ammo with dolches or the nitro / avto runners, and even then for the case of the long ammo users chances are there are still other ways to work around this
That's my concern too. But ngl isn't the goal kinda to screw over the high 6s that run long ammo with dolches constantly
Making them earn that Loadout might make it more fun and fulfil their superiority complex
i see where you're going with that but implementing that correctly would be difficult
I think price fixes nothing. It only gatekeeps
This idea has some spice, it would take some shifting around, balance wise, but it could work.
Regardless I don’t think our ideas are mutually exclusive, the price difference between default variants and their swift counterparts isn’t great enough to make an affect with a system like this.
the berthier is 330 ( iirc )
what makes you think they're going to change anything
a competent long ammo spam secondary user can just run a berthier + new army / officer
it's not the exact same, but it'll work just as well
arguably even better since NA has access to FMJ
does it matter when all they're going to use it for is at sub 30m spam
which one is harmy
Yes, you have to lead within 30m with those kinds of velocities
new army fmj has 200mv
There's a reason it's not used, even without factoring in the dolch
They’d need to change the pricing of a lot of weapons and it is probably more effort than it is worth. A proper solution would be to just balance the weapons against eachother, regardless of their price, and have price just a signifier for how exotic the weapon is.
its pretty fun
I can't hit shit with the new army ever
idk, I never had issues leading with NA
and if they don't want to use NA for the velocity, officer HV is like, right there
I hate the sights
I like the idea but eventually people are gonna find the optimal meta load out anyway. The best approach to a variety is just nerfs/buff across different guns.
Officer is a bit of a different case because of the damage difference, especially with HV. Dolch and Harmy have the exact same damage
Also based @mild flower for dropping a bombshell of a suggesting then just leaving
A very common bombshell unfortunately 😔
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge influx of cheaters atm are crytec aware?
chinese malaka with 7 kd lvl 60 no prestige 1 tapping everyone and its nearly every game
well we're working on a hypothetical budget here, can't have both velocity and damage in one package given that chances are dolch + long ammo isn't an option for a fresh hunter
either pick high velo or better damage and fmj
also have they done anything about crosshair overlays?
I think people will just use the spitfire
new army fmj just feels like fighting a dolch in cqc tbh
actually true, I deadass forgot about the spitfire
Which also doesn't have a sway penalty like the other pistols mentioned
can spam wallbang can easy two tap you before you can do shit about it
amogus
sugoma
I really like Scottfield Spitfire (probably my favourite revolver alongside Conversion/Pax Trueshot) but it really can’t compete with the other spammy pistols.
Not a surprise it is forgotten
It absolutely can.
It's higher damage than all of them, has no penalty for spamming, and is medium ammo like dolch
RU had to peepee
spitfire is more than capable of competing
I just forgot about it because I generally don't touch the scottfield family of pistols, plus I actively dislike the irons on it
It’s Cycle Time is 60% longer than all the other spam one slots.
Wasn't able to access the website to report cheaters. Is there a work around?
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And is still faster than most weapons in general
Y'all have some good points, I think the idea could work in an ideal world but whether it's worth the effort and all the numbers that'd need to be shifted is a whole new problem.
Cycle times do matter, but the spitfire didn't go away because of that
The other weapons don’t matter when we are comparing it against its peers, which are the spam one slots.
Best use is as a longer range New Army
And its peers fall short in other areas the spitfire is better. Most spam one slots aren't even the main sidearms in high elo. The dolch is the most common of the spam, but uppercut is still WAY more common
spitfire also doesn't get the wonky double-action recoil
Dolch seems more common for me, maybe it's a regional thing
Which is actually really nice
Areas like DMG and DMG drop off?
I still see it rather often, but uppercut is the one I see most
I wish I saw mosin uppercut more often
Much more fun Loadout to fight
Compared to Dolch or auto
And recoil and custom ammo variety
The latter being a thing less relevant to high elo, of course
And aura
A lot of times I get hit by Mosin, an uppercut shot follows
Which I would rather deal with vs a dolch spam because more bullets, but I think people want to ammo share and spam at walls with long ammo more
No way ppl still quickswap for you?
Yes
Cool
Every time I see Pyro, he hits me with Mosin and tries to uppercut me
It's quicker than cycling the rifle
I will do anything for the tomahawk skin for the throwing ax to come back, XD
there still plenty of quickswappers everywhere
the avg long ammo user will still have an auto-4, but I've seen many high elos with uppercut as a sidearm
I'm kinda surprised they still haven't adopted the haymaker
Maybe its recoil is different in game but on the wiki it has higher recoil?
As for custom ammo variety HV is for extending its range so I guess if you want a spammy pistol that works at longer ranges it could work but you could also just use a Bornheim, Officer w/ HV or Dolch 96.
FMJ and DD are on the New Army and well at the ranges you gonna be using it at…
Incendiary cool I guess.
Best quickswapper in the game
Objectively correct answer and is why it is one of my favourite revolvers
I should have said sway, not recoil. That was my bad
well light of shadow is rerunning relatively soon-ish, or some form of it
but the skins will be recolors and not the original ones
Sway on repeated firing
Interesting it differs between single action and double action?
Yes
I don't care XD I just want that tomahawk XD but thanks for telling me !!!
Imma need a source for this cause this is the first time I’m hearing of this.
haymayker funnily enough is often seen on 2 slot gamers
but like, you need qm for it, and at that point why even bother and just drop 300 for auto-4 or double it for dolch p
Not that I doubt you though
Spitfire isn't a double action or semi auto. The nerf in question was when they nerfed dolch from 110 damage to the 97 it is now, and slowed reload.
They also added extra sway to semi auto (dolch and bornheim), and double actions (officer and Harmy) for continued shots
So update 1.6? I will go have a read of it.
Semi-Automatic and Double Action Weapons
Semi-Auto weapons now have increased sway with each shot fired in quick succession. This added sway value will decay over time allowing players to minimize the effect by carefully controlling and timing shots.
Weapons impacted by this change:
Dolch and its variants.
Bornheim No. 3 and its variants.
Nagant Officer and its variants.
Crown & King Auto – 5.
New Army isn’t listed because it was added in 1.8 but from the wording it almost definitely has this
Mhm, and spitfire is excluded from that.
Which I personally think is a big deal when using them side by side
It's pretty noticeable
So the Spitfire has one thing going for it.
How long does it take for this sway to decay? I hope it is longer than 0.3 seconds otherwise it kinda changes nothing.
I've never tested that to see the exact time
Whatever you do, don't que up in 6* NAE
I want to say it's relative to the gun tho, because dolch sways a lot when spamming
Go to bed instead
im being spawn camped rn XXD
I got to six start last night, dropped back to five. Kinda happy about that lol
never run into this many crazy folks
I don’t think I’m worthy of being 6*, hell i don’t even think I’m worthy of 5*
lol damn asterisks
Well it’s mythic so you’ll never get exactly that skin of it again but you could see a reskin with the same overall design and some different colors
that would be fine with me i just hate the overall standard look XD
bongus
Also something fun I found on the Hunt wiki.gg.
On the Weapons page in the Weapon Types:Weapon Slots:Medium slot they misspell Sawn-off as Swan-off.
Noticed this about a week ago and thought it was funny.
Yall think the shredder will ever come back?
Will be back when the circus is back at worst
Iirc, the Krag silencer has the wrong damage number listed as well
anyone knows how often discounts change?
relatively random, but it should be on a weekly / bi-weekly basis
thought its weekly tbf but its weird af
Yeah I noticed that. There are a lot of silly things like that on the wiki. Maybe the wiki writer is just looking into the future and seeing that the silencer DMG nerf will be removed.
you ready for fire?
Sparks should honestly be an exception to the silencer DMG nerf rule though. Could make its Muzzle Velocity nerf from the Silencer more severe to compensate (15% to something like 20-25%).
Dont yaal think the wildland seems too common now after this update? i literlaly got 5 of them stashed
or the homestead 78 but its less strong
I haven't seen a Wildland in a while
pledge marks are so easy to get now
If I had my way I’d delete the Homestead 78 and Wildland. Lame ass scarce weapons. The Shredder is cooler and the Flame Rifle is hotter.
its easy as all fuck to get rn
yeah
scarce gun either homestead or wildland will spawn at burned every single match
its practically raining pledge marks
I just don't see people using it
that yeah idk why
like its so easy to get but no one runs it
Why take a Wildland if you already have a long ammo boltie?
vetterli
i usually use a vetterli and a pax trueshot lol
or sparks silenced and a pax trueshot
what lmao
what
probably joke that went over my head
Nope
Undertaker’s Song. It will take you out of the bush and into the light.
okay well
wildland gets levering and you still have 510 mv with its fmj
will still deal 126
amazing irons
If people thought the Wildland was better than the bolties, they'd use it
yeah but mosin exists :(
obv not better than
yeah that
vetterlis my fav gun so far the cyclone is a cousin we dont talk about
but wildland is a fucking great gun
I didn't say it wasn't
and i see people running stuff worse than long ammo bolty all the time
so it doesnt make sense why theyll go in with a winfield and be happy when they could spend 3 pledgemarks on a wildland
and have a 10x better gun
But especially in the elos where people typically have the bolties, they're gonna keep them
idk dude i see a shitload of 5 and 6* running winfield or spam guns
and wildland is insane spam
basically a krag with a speed loader
i cant process why they refuse to just go get a wildland
Wildland with bleed is catastrophic
I see Winnie decently enough, but I've also seen a lot of nonsense with challenges as of late
levering wildand with fmj and you check all 3 floors of a building spamming shots
lol cyclone subsonic when the event started
People just don't care about it
i dont think those people are smart
It's a beefy Centennial
I don't care about it either, but I've usually got a boltie lol
I ain't dropping a Berthier for a Wildland
If you want my Moonflower, you gotta take it
Berthier since Devil’s Trail got bugged Iron Eye Cycle Time to 1.35 (from 1.65).
Scott-field Spitfire it will make you feel strong
I thought it was excessively fast
i prestiged last time gotta unlock it
thinking of lemat or just a silenced nagant
Used to be 2.1 -> 1.65.
Now it is 1.7 -> 1.35.
Probably should be 1.7 -> 1.6.
Left is Trait-less Right is Ironeye
I meant to do a side by side on it after release but forgot
I did because someone on reddit posted this: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/1rz5ccx/my_cycle_time_tests/?sort=new
This sent me down a spiral of madness and torment so I tested every single weapons Cycle Time I could get my hands on, what I discovered was horrible.
honestly if you want to unlock spitfire just run scottfield dualies in clash until you do
doesnt take long
Peak
and spitfire is like 10x better than base scott
i hate using dualies i find them unskilled af ngl
thats because they are
*Unless fanning or dualies
yeah
I disagree with the common idea of dualies being unskilled
Why exactly are they seen like that? @normal kayak
They require more precise aim than perfectly accurate weapons to maximize your chances of hitting the target
And you need to know exactly what body part to aim at in what situation, managing damage vs chance to hit
The common idea of "spam in the general direction of the enemy" is actually one of the least effective ways to use them
hey
go to #na
didnt they set an absolute minimum damage on bullets to 25 a while back? I just did 24 with a bornheim

Bornheim and officer carbine do not have the minimum damage apply to them
@mild flower was reading game ideas and saw one about un-scarcing explosive bolts, could you give me a mini history lesson on them, since I saw your name against bringing them unscarce
Probably because they are compact ammo spam weapons
Too lil dmg apparently
They're just really annoying to fight and easily abuseable
They were essentially impact grenades and very high damage
Likely because they're RNG dependent at the end of the day
??
the only time you have to actually try to aim dualies is if youre shooting someone with conversion dualies far away
You can be 30m out and be two tapped by dualies or be 8m in front of someone and they miss
otherwise its just aim center mass and youll probably get the kill
With a perfectly precise weapon, hitting right at the edge of a target is enough for maximum (100%) chance of hitting.
With dualies, you need to aim dead centre for a consistent hit, which is much more precise than being able to aim anywhere on the part you're trying to hit
I mean the change only applies at stupidly long ranges anyway. Good luck hitting lots with them at that range with that velocity
I swear dualies either headshot me first bullet or they miss everything
“Exceptions to this ruleset are the Bornheim family and Nagant Silencer, due to their low base damage.”
Is the exact wording on the wiki
dude its very fucking easy to aim center mass and hit with dualies
and if you miss you legit just shoot again lmao
At shotgun range yeah
But that's shotgun range and you'll likely get one shot by a shotgun before the dualies can kill
whether your bullet goes center of your crosshair or to the middle of nowhere is RNG
The flip side to that is you have a much wider area to hit. At least with ADS, you have to aim precisely vs just putting a bloom over someone and letting rip
no its still easy to aim center mass at like 30m
and its still just rng if you get the kill or not
You can be aiming at someone's lower torso and get a headshot if RNGesus is on your side and the person fits in the crossair
Yeah. There's two sides to it, but I don't think they're strictly "easier" than fully precise weapons.
Sometimes you get lucky and they aim for you, but the other half or more of the time you need to aim precisely otherwise they whizz off and just miss
its like shooting someone with a slug at 50m theres not much skill to be had when the bullet goes wherever it wants
They're easier because it requires less mechanics skill to use them. The issue is they're inconsistent by nature and can either screw you over or absolutely rob someone
It is, yeah. But you have full control over what chance you have on whether it's a kill, it's not just a flip of the coin
That's range dependent tho
Seperate to this discussion but bullet deviation is kinda stupid and should be removed. They should’ve just altered slugs DMG drop off so it’s less effective at range.
you cant make it 100% so not really
all the control you get is aiming center and hoping the shots go where you want them to
truth
bullet deviation sucks
I cannot stand that mechanic
Why does not being able to make it 100% invalidate the control?
because you cant control where the bullet goes?
Because it's still not in your control
The bullet goes anywhere the reticle is
And if you're playing in ranges where you're pretty much guaranteed to hit all shots with dualies, then that's not gonna be very much effective range
1 thin wooden wall
And there's a lot less skill required to pop someone's head by putting the reticle over it vs ADS
Guess I’ll post the suggestion in game ideas, kinda surprised everyone is so unanimous.
the worst feeling
So I'd say they have low skill floor high skill ceiling
Because say aiming off-target is a 40% chance to hit, and aiming at the absolute centre pixel of the hunter is 80%. Hitting that 80% would be ideal and would be the skill ceiling no? But aiming at the absolute dead centre pixel is pretty difficult
They're low skill floor and ceiling
its not really skill ceiling if the weapon isnt gonna actually reward the skill
The whole design of the weapon is around RNG
There's also the movement aspect. Something similar to counterstrafing is ideal to keep up movement and accuracy
But it does
You are rewarded with higher chance to hit
When you're shooting a lot of bullets, that chance evens out and is rewarded
thats not a guaranteed reward it can still miss
You're always rolling the dice with dualies
youre not gonna feel very rewarded when you aim dead center at 30m and get 6 misses then die to a singular mosin spitzer shot
Y'all are just repeating the same points
Is the officer brawler the one everyone hates? And why?
Without backing them up
because the points are right lmao
Because skill and RNG are mutually exclusive
Then prove them 😭
meenn does nobody know a solution when the mouse dous not register slow movements ingame?? 🙁
There is no skill that will make every shot from dualies hit, only range
i dont have to prove it you yourself already know that dualies are RNG thats how they work
making your RNG better isnt a high skill ceiling
To win consistently with RNG, you have to play smart. Some of us don't twitch as good... either cause we're old, or don't do meth.
Are they?
Would you say leading a target at long range is not skillful, because you can't control your target's movement?
its you are capable of aiming
You can put someone perfectly in the center of a dualy reticle and can still miss
it usually regret but one way is to avoid compounds and play in the open 😅
it’s also a way to force myself to play differently
Yes I've already argued that point many times
Guess it's time to drop it
Dualies is so fun
Leading is within your control and can be replicated with 100% accuracy.
You can shoot two times with dualies and both shots hit in completely different places. There is no comparison of those two things
Even if I miss almost every shot, it feels so cinematic
Many of those center mass reticles missed... but the girl missed her romero blast, and the other guy couldn't find me until I was raining bullets on his head. Gotta be at the right range, though.
And dualie lemats are worth it for dual shotguns alone, I would say
what if we added something like cs go old overwatch system to check reports for greifing and stuff so they actually get reviewed
Except the opponent can backwards jump the moment you shoot and you had no control over that
I think they are talking relativistically to the enemy since you can’t control enemy movement. So yeah your shot when leading will always land in the same spot but you could still be way off because your opponent got distracted by a butterfly.
just increase air and movement spread of dualies tbf
Are dualies underpowered?
And they can do that with dualies too, however, your shot with ADS will go to the same place it is aimed at. Enemy movement is out of your control but the place needed to shoot relative to their moment is consistent. Dualies are literally rolling the dice at all times
hell no
Should note I have no bets in this argument
You aren't rolling RNG with your own weapon with ADS. Dualies are
Remember too, many weapons are META within their skill-range. Lower MMRs see different weapons as effective than higher MMRs.
If you're a crackshot, Officer Carbine is top tier.
Dualies is (very broadly) currently outclassed by shotguns in their niche of close range fighting. I’m sure there are plenty of exceptions though.
That's relative to the enemy tho, and not a fair qualification for as RNG because you are making predictions based on that movement. Dualies can miss on a non moving target
That's also why they're considered low skill
i dislike shotgun players as wel
Getting headshot by Dualies is luck based. You can certainly get lucky headshots aiming too, but that's obviously not in the same category
most fun fights are just revolvers and bolt actions
The Hunting Bow isn’t real it can’t hurt you.
i tried it its so fucking strong its stupid
Bow also occupies a lot of space Dualies might want to
when a trio runs non stop blasts doors i’m inside a compound and can’t tell where they are, i know it’s the end -.-
1/5 of all my kills are with the Hunting Bow I’m pretty sure.
should just jump out of compound and fuck the bounty XD
when i was new i used the bow and wasnt aiming center mass just headshots
got like 250 kills like that
damn. i miss headshots even with hitscan.
i hit more headshots with subsonic vetterli silenced than a mosin with spitze
spitzer
I miss headshots even when they are afk
I've done that a few times lol
Usually right after the nastiest flick
The worst is watching for necro and missing when they stand up...
who up hunting they showdown
based tbh
I havent won today 🙁
When I was new I was hiding from my own sounds
I think dualies as a whole are in a fine spot. Higher MMR players know how to play around them, but lower MMR players tend to struggle against them
Any changes would throw them off balance for either extreme of the game's MMRs
Maybe could use a little buff but a big one would be a bad idea for the lower skill range imo
I've been on a losing streak for like 4 days.
okay crytek
dualies in general suck and have always sucked. they're only good on a free hunter when you catch someone off guard
imo
i wouldnt say they suck tbh
I just get that spidey sense when someone is pushing me way too confidently and then I can use them.
but agro dualies are cheeks
i'm so down bad I'm playing soul survivor.
It also really depends on which duallies you use
You can wipe out an entire team with half your dualies ammo.
Basic Caldwell Conversion duallies are incredibly tight, those are effective out to 30+ meters
Lowest ttk out of any guns with a lot of margin of error
With shotguns there is little room of error due to ammo size
Same for dolchs and bornheims
Pretty much any other pistol is a downgrade, though, with the possible exception of the trueshot
i mean yeah people usually wont think of shit dualies when you say dualies
because there are infact bad ones
like officer dualies are horrible
Uppercut duallies are a meme for a reason
I do nagant dualies coz i have a lot of nagant skins
Its only 10 spread worse
40 is still good kinda
convs are 30 right
And it doesnt feel like a double barrel gun like scottfield dualies
Maybe stop using rivals. Effective until 1 meter
in SS i had a pair of uppercuts. instant headshot twice in a row… must have been reported 
the second bullet was just for cinema
I find them noticeably less consistent
They also have a slower fire rate
25% more spread than conversions definitely
the devil card + dualies tho
mental
dual trueshot with dum dum for extra precision lmao
bornheim dualies with devil for precise spam
sporkle dualies with devil for style points
i run that a lot
with the extended variant of it
for like
18 bullets
that's whole 6 kills
that's whole 2 kills*
yea i should’ve pulled out my nagant at this moment but i thought i can a ninja like that
yo
yes
yo
gurt
imho some bullets were clearly hitregged issued 
it’s definitely cryengine’s fault
balright
I got Ultimate again so I'll be Hunting soon
that being said WT added a B-52 so maybe not lol
lost too good
had to bump you up
the mmr updates 1 match after you go up or down
how did you do the match before?
same shit
^also true
well fuck idk
MMR ratraded
also got offed by brand new account (p0 level 10) with dolch and nitro -.-
love it
kill asists?
i’m running solo bruh
hey
mind sparing some change?
i was in this situation like
6 matches ago
so basically my solution was to get carried by ultron
and now i got 6k
that's a good solution
too ez
js run a soul survivor or two tho
you can actually get a decent kit from soul survivor if you like look for it
imagine u cant even afford weak vitality shots
nah, i don't need advice, dw, i just keep this screenshot as a memory of bad times
ohh
climbed back up
nono, only was a week ago
when youre at 0 what happens
you are shot dead
36
you play free hunters or soul survivor
dont hit 0 hunt dollars again marine
free hunters need more variety
i shall do it nonetheless
well thats why you just win
just dont be poor!
IDK how people run out of money in this game, Are you guys running like 4 dolch bullseyes?
I say this and I suck (lose like 80% of my games). I also prestige as soon as a I hit 100, Lowest Hunt Dollars I hit was like 3k.
so
my consumables and tools cost like 580
and then i run a lebel
i did run 4 dolch dualies with devil
to reach that
and some other shit
you dont need 4 dolchs to be poor in this game. but bounty rewards are incredible trash in this game.
That’s like the cost of my entire loadout
but in general my average money is anywhere from 1k to 10k
Dear god
where my consumables still cost that much i just stop buying lebels
and then when i get to 1k i start getting scared and stop running recovery shots
you know how rich people behave right?
pretty much you just run expensive kits and never think to budget
they just gonna get richer
and thats how you lose all your money
tsk
my friend has a shitload of money and like 7 copies of each gun and he just only makes money
i dont want to ever feel like this.
you know the feeling where you dont ever upgrade to a 4K or 1440P monitor because you dont want to maintain this kind of status quo with expensive gpus?
thats what i do in Hunt. I never buy expensive loadouts so i dont need to maintain my current firepower / utility
he will go gamble at clockmakers looking for traits and shit and will pull more hunt dollars
meanwhile i get like
antidote boon x5
and shadow leap
god i hate destiny dial. it gives u more garbage traits than hunt dollars
when you have like 300k hunt dollars money shouldnt mean anything to you
Only need a Nagant, Springfield, Dusters, and medkit rest is optional.
if you have all that just like
only start budgeting if you somehow go down 100k
which you probably wont
i mean personally i wouldnt budget until im down 298k but
maybe but i dont want to run lebels and berths all day. my usual loadout is a cent / sparks / marathon / romero
Mhmm
you dont HAVE to run it all day
I'm at like 10k
i run it once in a blue moon from my contraband stash 👍
vault reveal
Any more hunters that cant connect to server, and just get kickt out even before getting on the mission?
Aah okej! Hope they fix it !
alguien de español
you nah
This is why I dislike running expensive guns, I can't really loot the good stuff from others 😭
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i mean
you dont HAVE to keep your expensive gun
Then why switch? Downgrades is no bueno!
because you want to
what if they have a cooler skin
Hmm ok, if it's skin related sure
imagine thinking 100K is extremely low
i could play about a good 2k games with that much
i dont
I've got 850k, number must go up
i mean if you manage to lose 100k hunt dollars in like a day
maybe you should reconsider your financial decisions
Im mikey in the lobby, I finally did it!!! I got 6 star
Now the real Hunt begins!
not bad congrats
Mosin dolch as far as the eye can see!
you can see even more if you derender
WWW
what is up with everyone running the damn Maynard suppressed its lowkey getting unplayable
i turned my render distance down recently and its so funny cause like
i see someone perfectly
i ads
tall grass cant see shit
See, this is where spitzer and crosshairx shines
I was in gas works we killed helborne where he spawns in that open arena, I went down the stairs and I shot through the metal stairs, through the window, and killed a guy peeking from the outside bounty room ledge balcony
Just ads and immediately shoot
i wont be running crosshair overlays but i am considering just like
quickscoping people
the normal crosshair is enough to see center of screen so
It's just too good to pass up
Promotes an extremely annoying playstyle
when your random teammates tell you to leave because the enemies are too good and i cant win the 1v3 LMAO
it really makes me want to stop playing, why is a 6 star camping a clue location like ffs its so annoying I finaly get up to 4 stars just to get ripped by that damn gun into 3 stars its so ass
who cares about losing stars anyway
gaining stars is a bigger issue than losing em tbh
lmao
in my region I have found that the lowerstars is the most cancer playstyles XD thats why
like siting in a bush with a bow for 30 mins
just to kill me when I get to boss
yea, don't be fooled by people saying low stars are more fun than high stars, that's just cope
I've been in 3 and 4* lobbies, I've been in 6, 6 are always more aggressive
thats what me and my boy like we like the PVP not getting sniped and bent over by bushes and distance
If a 6 star kills you and u r 4* u shouldnt drop in mmr btw

