hunt-general

[fathom shale]

No politics anywhere

[normal radish]

aight ill let the guys know it was a bit misunderstood

https://tenor.com/view/batman-sad-swing-rain-lonely-gif-5510570

[fathom shale]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[normal radish]

eh just leave it alone man, its a closed room with closed rules

i get how you feel

[fathom shale]

I'm dreading having to do the saber kills in chapter 3 of the story challenge

[normal radish]

but its like walking into a starbucks and demanding to be served steak, you aint wrong

its just not the place

[silk swallow]

Clash and just run saber it's easy peasy.

[normal radish]

its a public server and lotta rules

[cloud timber]

Maybe try hiding in a corner near a dead boss

[fathom shale]

If you fail to see the difference between your messages here before you were asked to move to off topic, and the topics you went into in off topic, that's on you and I recommend looking inward

[cloud timber]

And jump out when they pass by

[silk swallow]

You never rat with traditional weapons.

It's not the way.

[cloud timber]

I don’t rat

[silk swallow]

Good.

[cloud timber]

I’m just saying they could try ambush sword kills

[normal radish]

define RAT

[silk swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-3417245934051922481

This is a rat

[fathom shale]

That's pretty much the opposite of my playstyle though

[normal radish]

is this a shotgun in a corner, or a sniper in a bush

[cloud timber]

I’ve never ratted before I’m just giving sword advice for people who struggle with the melee kills

[normal radish]

he aint gon shoot by the looks of it

[fathom shale]

If I have to sit still for even a little time I will fall asleep and move on to other games

If I'm gonna have to get saber kills I'm just gonna rush in and eventually it will add up to 5 kills

[normal radish]

so what is that you call rat

that you havent done before

you must know it

because you know you havent done it

[cloud timber]

Yeah I haven’t ratted before

[normal radish]

which is

[cloud timber]

I’m giving advice

[silk swallow]

When I get done with my training I can probably help you if you need.

[normal radish]

i know that part aight

what exactly do you call rat or rattinmg

thats my question

[cloud timber]

I know sitting in a corner with a sword is ratting

[normal radish]

or is it

[cloud timber]

It is

[normal radish]

maybe its just being smart enough to know not to make noise when your enemy hears you

wouldnt a human do that too

[silk swallow]

Only times it's not ratting if you're a stealth archer.

[cloud timber]

Idk screaming get some or let them come or shooting a flare in the sky before a fight is the real answer for that

I shoot a flare before a fight to let them know I’m coming

[normal radish]

isnt that a bit counterintuitive or breaking the immersion

[cloud timber]

No

[normal radish]

how come

im interested

[cloud timber]

Because I like rushing in and forcing gunfights

I don’t like when my team takes 5 minutes to sneak up on a compound

[normal radish]

isnt that a bit (all due respect) selfish?

maybe your teammate doesnt want that. he wanst a more logical approach

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/tunip-ghibli-howls-moving-castle-scarecrow-gif-16115347

[cloud timber]

Sneaking is useless if you’re taking so long that the banish is complete and they have darksite

The longer you take the worse it is for everyone

[grave rose]

whats we talkin bout

[normal radish]

knowing the balance is the key

[cloud timber]

I like to create a foothold as early as possible and end fights as quickly as possible too

[normal radish]

stealth an action are sides of the same coin

too passive and you lose your opportunity

[cloud timber]

If we wait too long there’s a third and a fourth group

[normal radish]

too aggressive and you spell doom for your entire party

if you wait properly

[cloud timber]

They can hang back and shoot them in the back

[normal radish]

you can position yourself in a way that decieves the inside team to engage the team that sandwitched you

[cloud timber]

I always move to the opposite side of the compound for the rush so if they want to hide in bushes they can

[normal radish]

but you told me ratting is hiding in a corner not in a bush outside the compound

[cloud timber]

I didn’t say that

I said I don’t rat

[normal radish]

here

[cloud timber]

Yeah it is

Just like ratting in a bush

[normal radish]

so you did say

thats two different style of playing used by two entirely different loadouts called rat

thats a lotta rats

[grave rose]

plain and simple since yall youngins dont understand bein a steven seagal is when you dont move simple

end of discussion

bam

[cloud timber]

Bush camping corner camping hiding at extract is all common ratting techniques

[normal radish]

its not steven segal

[gray aurora]

In team just run over enemy. Alone I am one with the nature

[grave rose]

it is

[normal radish]

its called playing the game however you damn want because no one purchased it for you

or your not forced to cater to other peoples mindsets in playing games

[grave rose]

its the ssdd scenario

[cloud timber]

I’m not saying they should be forced to play normally

[normal radish]

it IS NORMAL

[cloud timber]

Nowhere have I said that

[normal radish]

ratting is normal

rushing is

[cloud timber]

Effective and decisive

[normal radish]

all of these are NORMAL

cheating is not

[grave rose]

you sure ur an adult my man

[normal radish]

if they are in a corner

i dont cry over how they got my careless ass

i care about how i get their ass

[cloud timber]

You mentioned you hate stank rat he’s a well known rat

We don’t force people to play like us

We just think it’s scummy and boring

[normal radish]

yes, i hate him. but i dont condemn his playstyle

he is a legit player

a true rat, his playstyle normal.

[grave rose]

damn so stolen valor shit

[cloud timber]

That’s literally what I just said

[leaden herald]

mig are you talking politics again

[cloud timber]

I’m not forcing them to play like us I’m just saying is scummy

[grave rose]

fuckin joke of soul

[leaden herald]

uh huh

[normal radish]

to me it appeared you disapproved of other people legit playstyle

[cloud timber]

I do

[normal radish]

scummy means very very negative

[cloud timber]

It’s scummy but I’m not forcing people to play like me

[royal cloak]

I'm a cat that meows.

[normal radish]

it has a very steep meaning you know that

[mortal cove]

You should think about the meaning of words

You can‘t say smth is scummy and then pretend to be neutral about it

That‘s just the textbook definition of hypocrisy

[normal radish]

if someone called my way of play is scummy id be kinda offended

because it means a very bad and insulting action done by me

[cloud timber]

Back then it was used to describe filth

[normal radish]

its still bad

not neutral

a neutral word would be, displeased

un moved

[mortal cove]

Just FYI, scum was used by the church in the 13th century to describe the unfaithful. The lowest of the low.

[normal radish]

even these are not totally neutral

[cloud timber]

Fine I’ll say I hate rats

That better?

[normal radish]

at least now you are not being a hypocrite, i appreciate this much better

[upbeat lark]

yes

[mortal cove]

As said, think about the meaning of words and optimally inform yourself of the origin

[cloud timber]

How

[normal radish]

honesty

[frigid ibex]

Let's change the topic, including the rat one

[upbeat lark]

i love the mako

[normal radish]

its literaly about rat PLAYERS how is that not hunt related

if i wasnt clear

rat PLAYERS

like playing in a corner

[karmic quest]

Answer my dm for a sec

[frigid ibex]

Bro that's not hunt showdown

[cloud timber]

30 minutes of waiting in a corner in huntshowdown

[normal radish]

huh?

[wheat leaf]

crazy got beetled 5 times in a row, these guys try to cheese clash so hard

[frigid ibex]

Go join Microsoft flightsimulator discord or something

[mortal cove]

Can someone please mute or ban MiG for spam?

[grave rose]

give me power dizz ill get rid of em

[cloud timber]

That’s not an ac130

[leaden herald]

mig is asking for trouble at this point

[cloud timber]

That’s the cargo variant not the battle variant

C130

[upbeat lark]

my definition of playing like a rat is when said player is stealthing too much plus sitting at a place for too long

[grave rose]

dudes a fuckin joke just ignore em

[leaden herald]

sure

[cloud timber]

What I’ve been trying to say.. but moving on

Mako

[royal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-cute-rat-rub-tiny-gif-23671665

[upbeat lark]

overly passive gameplay basically i dont get how they can play so passively if it were me i would somehow jump cause my adhd ass can not stand doing nothing

[silk swallow]

Bows should have fire arrows.

[upbeat lark]

anyway

mako

[cloud timber]

Fire arrows yes

It’s was a common thing back then

[royal cloak]

Oh wow.

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[cloud timber]

Well not 1800 back then

[frigid ibex]

I think ambushing doesn't make someone a rat. If you only sneak around, avoid teams you know about and only act to third party then that's pretty cringe. That's a big upperhand though.

[normal radish]

its legit though

[upbeat lark]

yea its a legit playstyle i have no problem with it

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-seagal-special-ops-gif-9073908401293939347

[normal radish]

and its surely about hunt

[cloud timber]

I hate it but I’m not gonna force you to play differently

[frigid ibex]

Well posting planes isn't about hunt. Everything isn't about you

[normal radish]

bro

[cloud timber]

I’m just gonna dynamite you and walk away

[normal radish]

that wasnt me

[upbeat lark]

if anything theyre playing the most optimally but still i just cant stand not moving around for too long

anyway

[frigid ibex]

Exactly it isn't about you

[normal radish]

why are you targeting me i was targeting RATS

[upbeat lark]

mako

[frigid ibex]

You didn't post a plane

[upbeat lark]

i love this mako skin

[normal radish]

you pinged me and said move from the rats convo

[royal cloak]

Rats are cool animals

[normal radish]

here

[uneven flax]

This doesn't make any sense? All of them are 3 star but match mmr is 2?

[frigid ibex]

I didn't ping you

[upbeat lark]

i really love this mako skin for some reason

[fathom shale]

And where did Dizz say that it was because of it not being Hunt related?

[normal radish]

aight you dint but did mention the rat one

[cloud timber]

They said move from the plane topic.. including the rat topic

[fathom shale]

We can ask people to move on from topics for more reasons than not being on topic, including our rule 1.2

[grave rose]

ayyyy dibba

[fathom shale]

1.2 Be welcoming to other players. No attacks on their skill level, playstyle and platform.

[frigid ibex]

It was getting heated and it's been going on for a while

[fathom shale]

And it was getting a bit borderline with the whole rat topic

[normal radish]

okay reamd my comment

and tell me did i attack anyone?

oh wait

[cloud timber]

They were talking about me

[normal radish]

the other dude

[upbeat lark]

so it seems

anyway

mako

[karmic quest]

Romero best

[upbeat lark]

i can not use shotguns for some reason

[royal cloak]

Damn.

[karmic quest]

Just point and click

[upbeat lark]

i cant point good

[normal radish]

can i say hunt on pc is better or will i get banned

[acoustic imp]

but what if they have the wrong playstyle?

[fathom shale]

How do I get damage down with traps and consumables when I hate both traps and throwable consumables

[uneven flax]

have good success if i dont ADS lol

just yolo hip fire

[fathom shale]

Wish it was just tools and consumables rather than traps specifically

[karmic quest]

Clash

[fathom shale]

Would just do it with the quad derringer

[acoustic imp]

direct impact people with conc bombs

[wheat leaf]

place traps in extractions and trade supply

[karmic quest]

Flash bombs perhaps too

[upbeat lark]

yea with shotguns its favorable to not ads unless youre using slugs

[cloud timber]

What you mean soul survivor players

[fathom shale]

"I hate using traps and throwables"

"Just use traps and throwables"

[karmic quest]

I often ads with the romero

[fathom shale]

Thanks guys

[frigid ibex]

I'm a soul survivor player

[normal radish]

i love ss

[cloud timber]

I’m joking

[frigid ibex]

[sinful aurora]

concertina is actually quite nice to get the bleed challenges done as they often cause several bleed tags and it still counts when you are already dead.

[normal radish]

MOD THIS PERSON ATTACKED MY STYLE

[uneven flax]

What if they play on nintendo switch

[grave rose]

i gotta ask is that challenge bugged atm

[cloud timber]

People attack my kit everytime I show it

[acoustic imp]

well did you just want us to change the challenge for you

[frigid ibex]

I havent done it so don't know

[upbeat lark]

chat dont attack my kit
me using double scott p

[normal radish]

well you defo should warn them about rule 1.2

[fathom shale]

Wasn't really expecting people to really take it seriously regardless, I'm not actually looking for answers

[karmic quest]

Why not the conversion?

[fathom shale]

Just pointing out the challenge being the exact opposite of what I enjoy doing in Hunt

[karmic quest]

Or pax

[acoustic imp]

oh yeah fair

[sinful aurora]

i usually ask in my frind group if someone wants to do my bow/melee/sniper challenges and i do the shotgun, consumable, bleed, burn, ones for them.

[upbeat lark]

cause scott p is the worse weapon

[uneven flax]

use this kit and no one will attack you

[upbeat lark]

double pax is usable

[cloud timber]

A budget kit is fine

[normal radish]

its got the better accuracy

[upbeat lark]

thats not budget thats a free kit

[fathom shale]

I'll just play randoms and let them do the damage, my usual teammates aren't gonna be using traps nor consumables either

[grave rose]

silly ill do the sniper challenge for u

[cloud timber]

Put a crossbow in the first weapon slot and I’ll use it

[sinful aurora]

i don't have a sniper challenge rn. xD

was more like an example

[cloud timber]

Yeah it’s a budget of free

[sinful aurora]

[uneven flax]

i hate how free kits always have frontier 73c + scottfield but they will rotate the other 3 slots into random mish mash

[normal radish]

wrong

its a budget of 0 dollars

[grave rose]

ill do all ur challenges for you i need to burn my money before i prestige

[upbeat lark]

frontier 73c isnt so bad

[normal radish]

[upbeat lark]

scott is

scott

[normal radish]

great

the literal most used weapoon in hunt

[upbeat lark]

but it can atleast help in unlocking the spitfire variant (my favorite pistol)

[normal kayak]

probably because of free loadouts tbf

[upbeat lark]

the free hunter load out i like most is that and the one with the carbine

[normal kayak]

standard scott isnt allat

[upbeat lark]

standard scott is pretty bad

[uneven flax]

my favorite free kit is always the bow and springfield. sadly free hunters dont have enough points for mcqueen digits

[upbeat lark]

pax is better and its just like 8 coins more

[normal radish]

its not free, those hunters paid for them and we just get to use them because we are a higher being

[upbeat lark]

thats also great i just cant use the smaller springfield

[cloud timber]

My favourite free kit is the 600 hunt dollar I spend for the free kit

[upbeat lark]

the sight is terrible

[uneven flax]

just put a dot on your monitor

all sights are now the same

[cloud timber]

If it’s not free then why is my kit value at 0 huhhh

[normal radish]

crosshair x user spotted?

[upbeat lark]

if i have to use the smaller spingfield make it the deadeye

[upbeat lark]

it feels like cheating atleast to me

[normal radish]

you feel right

it is

[cloud timber]

Wait would dots on your monitor be cheating

[normal radish]

yes

in hunt

[cloud timber]

It’s technically not a feature in game like other games

[uneven flax]

People can't seem to agree if crosshairs are cheating. It's also because all non-trash monitors have crosshairs now.

[upbeat lark]

it counts as third party stuff so i dont wanna risk it

[uneven flax]

And no one's stopping anybody from literally adding a sticker on their screen to make a crosshair.

[cloud timber]

I play on an old tv

[normal radish]

the only ones that dont agree are the ones using it

[mortal cove]

Crosshair size is used as a balancing tool for a reason

If you remove crosshair size as a balancing tool, it's cheating

Simple as that

[normal radish]

1 ounce of common sense would be enough

[mortal cove]

ANYTHING that removes a balancing tool to push the game in your favor

[normal radish]

thats 33 grams

[mortal cove]

It's cheating

[normal radish]

not much

[normal radish]

yet

yet there are SOOO MANY

[acoustic imp]

wait luu is spitting facts and based

[normal radish]

that fail to grasp this

[cloud timber]

So everyone else who’s monitor now comes with that feature is cheating

[normal radish]

he always does

[mortal cove]

I almost always am :p

Not everytime

I have my bad takes too

[acoustic imp]

true

[mortal cove]

[royal cloak]

Like a Box Tv?

[normal radish]

hmm i need to record some of those

[modern pebble]

wallbang = cheating thats why fmj is in the game

[cloud timber]

Not that old but I did have to

[acoustic imp]

my favorite is when you tell someone using a crosshair the definition of cheating

and they get pissy

[cloud timber]

I was pretty damn good with a box tv

[uneven flax]

There are motion-sensitive individuals who actually needed a dot on their screen though. What happens to those people then? I just don't think non-third party crosshairs are cheating.

DOn't know for crosshair X though. I'm sure some game bans crosshair x.

[cloud timber]

Outdated flatscreen now

And I still kick ass

[royal cloak]

Yea same.

[cloud timber]

It’s not about the equipment

[mortal cove]

Wallbangs are part of the games' balancing Penetration power is a literal mechanic

[normal radish]

i am motion sensitive because a flashbang blew up in my face, i have the v syndrome which causes focusing 3 times harder, YET I HAVE NO PROBLEM focusing on a 14 inch monitor

[cloud timber]

So don’t spend like 100k on a setup I’m exaggerating a little

But still

[uneven flax]

Persistent dots are legitimately an industry standard video game accessibility option. There is no way around it.

[normal radish]

there is

not cheating

thats the way

in hunt using crosshair x is cheating and thats the end of convo

[cloud timber]

What’s Crosshair x

[normal radish]

its a third party app that is used for (mostly) cheating in hunt case

[cloud timber]

People have dots taped to the middle of their screen I seen it since 2007

[upbeat lark]

basically putting a crosshair of your own in the middle of your screen

[royal cloak]

My monitor has a crosshair option but I decide not to use it.

[sweet frost]

Someone say something about crosshairs?

[mortal cove]

While I agree that Persistent Dots are a legitimate accessibility feature You CAN put those not in the middle of the screen too into your peripheral vision and still get the benifit :p

So either way it's cheating... you are making a terrible argument here.

[royal cloak]

It actually annoys me.

[normal radish]

even if they do that, the extent of the advantages they gain is concerning

[sweet frost]

If your pride is that high to avoid having better centering then go for it 😂

[upbeat lark]

i myself dont think crosshair have too big of an advantage but i choose not yo use it for my own morals of abiding with rules

[sweet frost]

It is an advantage

[acoustic imp]

found the cheater

[cloud timber]

I’m on the no dots on the screen but so many companies have it built in now and nobody cares about it it seems

[sweet frost]

Yeah dude totally

[normal radish]

range finding, lead gauging and center dot are quite big

[royal cloak]

Banned.

[sweet frost]

That just isn't a thing.

[normal radish]

hate to break it to you

but it is

[uneven flax]

Third party software is definitely cheating. But no one's stopping anybody from a physical dot or a monitor dot. People just need to get off their high horse and accept that fact.

Does a back massage from my wife counts as cheating coz I feel refreshed and ready to kick ass?

[acoustic imp]

okay so you arent dense your just ragebaiting

W

[sweet frost]

Range finding....

You mean the spyglass

...

[normal kayak]

lalalalalala

[cloud timber]

I love spyglass

It’s fun

[normal radish]

tell you had 0 military training without telling me

[mortal cove]

Just because a physical dot glued to your screen isn't detectable Doesn't mean it's not cheating lol

You are still cheating

Also nice that your wife gives you back massages

[sweet frost]

Mb sir thank you for your service

[cloud timber]

How is rangefinding a military exclusive thing

[normal radish]

or any ranger programs

or any survival program

[uneven flax]

It's also nice i can tape a crosshair on my screen.

Does having a 1000 dollar seinnheiser count as cheating too? There are many ways you can have a physical advantage on a video game.

[sweet frost]

Hey man this is a video game

[cloud timber]

I’ve always knew how to rangefind using optics

[normal radish]

im not attacking your or anything, maybe i should have explained how range finding works

[cloud timber]

My friend taught me how

[mortal cove]

You are comparing apples and oranges here.

[sweet frost]

This just isn't necessary

[sweet frost]

No they are not

[mortal cove]

That is one hell of an disingenous comparison

[uneven flax]

a physical crosshair and literal third party software to cheat are apples and oranges as well

[normal radish]

well guess what, people are using that technique in crosshair x to get that advantage

[sweet frost]

Blaming crosshair for your deaths to mosin spitzer players is just cope.

Just sayin

[acoustic imp]

son im crine

[upbeat lark]

i think comparing someone that have an actual headset and someone thats using the speaker of their device is the better comparason than headset to headset

[sweet frost]

And you have the same ability to use a dot in the center of your screen jf you want to

[normal radish]

i know your just baiting but ill bite

[upbeat lark]

speaking of headset i want a better iem

[sweet frost]

But if you choose not to then that's on yall.

[acoustic imp]

"everyone can cheat if they want"

[sweet frost]

Defining crosshair as cheating is, again, just cope.

[acoustic imp]

objectively incorrect

[sweet frost]

People were doing that shit back on console for xbox360 in like 2007

[cloud timber]

I seen it

[uneven flax]

cope high horse

[royal cloak]

Needing crosshair is a skill issue.

[normal radish]

its the fact they choose to use an app that is clearly considered cheating by the devs and players and they defend it because "everyone can" is the EPITOME OF SKILL ISSUE

[sweet frost]

Being used to having a crosshair from cs / valorant is preference

[uneven flax]

but physical crosshair isnt an app? 😂

[cloud timber]

My best friend had a friend who used to do 360 quickscope montages with a dot taped to his screen in 2007

[sweet frost]

Crazy how I still have to aim with crosshair

Like what is even cheating about that

It's cope.

[opal dawn]

I tried crosshair, I did better with it than without

[upbeat lark]

doing something because everyone is doing it is one of the worse advice in life

[mortal cove]

Fundmementally I describe cheating as such:

Using a tool that to remove a balancing lever is cheating. Crosshairs are different sizes in Hunt as a a way to balance the game.

If you are using a physical glued crosshair or a program to project a crosshair onto the screen, then you are cheating, simple as that.

A better headphone is not changing the balancing lever of audio in the game NOW A PROGRAM that would audioduck certain frequencies dynamically based on ingame situations, that would be cheating. (If you don't know what audioducking is, please read an article about it)

[normal radish]

ask your morals, the form matters? does it have to be digital?

[opal dawn]

Turns out if you can go from full sprint to an exact pinpoint where to aim is kinda beneficial

[mortal cove]

Hence why I call your comparison apples and oranges

[normal radish]

yes

[flint jetty]

You could also just get used to the crosshair and sight built into the game

[opal dawn]

It also helped a lot in nighttime imo

[royal cloak]

I like oranges.

[cloud timber]

I mean you don’t need it I’ve never needed one and I still flick a tap heads

[acoustic imp]

no because they need their advantadge

[royal cloak]

They're sweet and delicious.

[raven rune]

we really gonna have this conversation every single day huh

[mortal cove]

Stop argumenting in bad faith like this

You are just wrong

[sweet frost]

Turns out that you still have to aim / flick / aim through the sway because ADS'ing on a single pixel in this game doesn't actually ADS on that center due to this lovely mechanic called sway!

[normal radish]

untill they get nuked out of the game

[upbeat lark]

i like dragonfruit better

[normal radish]

it was the same with reshade users

SAME SHIT

[sweet frost]

Now that's apples to oranges

[uneven flax]

but reshade is another third party software

[normal radish]

no its apples vs fking apples man

face it

[sweet frost]

Reshade deserved to get banned

[cloud timber]

I have no idea what any of this means

[royal cloak]

Last time I've tried one it had no flavor.

[normal radish]

its a pc convo, your safe

[sweet frost]

Yall are comparing legit cheats to a fucking dot in the center of your monitor😂😭

[upbeat lark]

then you ate an underipe one

[mortal cove]

So do tools that project a dot onto the middle of your screen.

[opal dawn]

So, why should we be using it tho? It clearly has no advantage so there's no reason to use it?

[upbeat lark]

the ripe one have a nice and sweet flavour

[mortal cove]

Because they equally remove a balancing lever of the game

[sweet frost]

By tools you mean a sharpie..?

💀

[royal cloak]

Hmm

[sweet frost]

Be so for real.

[mortal cove]

Well yeah, you are still fucking cheating

[flint jetty]

Because it has a similar function just because it's a app or not does not change the purpose of effect of what your doing

[mortal cove]

Just because one is detectable by Anti-cheat and one isn't doesn't make one morally superior over the other

[cloud timber]

Don’t forget actual legal companies sell monitors with dots already on them

[mortal cove]

You are just argumenting in bad faith at that point

[grave rose]

we got a confirmed cheater in chat

?

[royal cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067152712086585408/1460371953826402548/image0.gif

Hunt beef

[uneven flax]

Physical crosshairs makes the game inbalanced? There's still sway, bloom, whatever no?

A better headphone TOTALLY changes the game. Why do you think better headphones users have advantage over those with shittier headphones / no headphones at all?

So what makes physical crosshairs different? Some people think it gives them an advantage over without.

[grave rose]

aaayyy grug

[cloud timber]

I just trying to find the fine line is all

Just wanted opinions on it

[sweet frost]

Go ahead and ask Crytek through crytek support if they will ban you for using crosshair. I've and hundreds others have already been through this.

[opal dawn]

Da crow that's scary!

[cloud timber]

I searched the internet

[grave rose]

how ya doin

[sweet frost]

Just message through Crytek Support for a clear answer 👍

[normal radish]

thats what happens when there is no crackdowns, the culprits grow BOLD

[mortal cove]

A better set of headphones does not fundementally change how the audio is mastered.

A physical or projected dot in the middle of your screen does fundementally alter how you can aim in the game.

Again, apples and oranges

It's not a good faith argument

[sweet frost]

My bad for getting told by the developers of the video game we play that you will not be banned for using crosshair. My bad guys.

[cloud timber]

True a simple check can solve this conundrum

[uneven flax]

Of course it does! Have you used a garbage audio device? It changes how you play and how you understand the game.

[flint jetty]

Theirs a difference between changing a core part of a shooter like the crosshair and choosing to get better audio equipment. Hearing better isn't changing the core game changing the crosshair is

[opal dawn]

You'd think that if there's no advantage to using crosshairs, people wouldn't bother to use it

[mortal cove]

No, the MASTERING of the audio does not change with a better set of headphones

[normal radish]

oh but they DID say its malicious, they said they cant detect it yet

[mortal cove]

You are just wroing

Factually

[uneven flax]

Huh.... You can master the audio with a better headset

Shit ones are unplayable

[sweet frost]

Yeah using long ammo vs. compact ammo at 200m is also advantageous is that also cheating too?

[uneven flax]

guy named pinkcrosshair defending crosshair use

[tawny frost]

Whats going on? explain drama, i'm a bit late to the party

[cloud timber]

But they hand that to you to be fair

[normal radish]

no because it comes installed on the product i bought on hand

[opal dawn]

No, because it's an in-game available to all balancing decision

[cloud timber]

A debate if dots are cheating I guess

[mortal cove]

Please inform yourself first what the process of audiomastering is in a movie or game and then continue this conversation when you are better informed, otherwise you are wasting everyones time here.

[flint jetty]

No because it's part of the game you rlly are bad faith

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-thatboiicheck-gunna-young-thug-hot-gif-15959855

[flint jetty]

If you had the option to change your crosshair in game that's different but the people who made the game have designed it for you to use the crosshair available

[mortal cove]

Preach

[cloud timber]

What about playing night mode audio

Professional players use night mode audio

[woven cape]

Eepy mode audio

[cloud timber]

Eep sound

[grave rose]

damn marsh in general

[uneven flax]

Does it matter? The final product is what's delivered in your ears and better headsets are still a physical advantage?

Physical crosshairs are a physical advantage? So what's the fuss about? Lol

[mortal cove]

compressing the sound is a trade-off Quite frankly there is no real advantage to it. You are trading off dynamic range. Which can also screw you over in the case of... RAIN as an example

[normal radish]

he is just passing through to off topic

[flint jetty]

Theirs a difference between having better sounds and changing a core part of the game like a crosshair

You are being silly

[mortal cove]

I know enough people who keep telling me compressing the audio in Hunt is great and then hear nothing in rain maps. @cloud timber

[tawny frost]

@cloud timber yo, siri!
Drop summary of what went down in the last 100 messages 🗣️ 📢

[cloud timber]

I checked pro-league rules and apparently the dot in pro play is legal and an actual thing they do

[uneven flax]

How is the core part of the game changed with a physical crosshair? The entire mechanics still exist. No mechanic is deleted. Nothing is made easier. It is a minor physical benefit.

[mortal cove]

In what game? CS?

[normal radish]

in what game

[opal dawn]

Again, if crosshairs provide no advantage, people wouldn't be using them

[normal radish]

because its NOT legal in cs

[mortal cove]

^

[normal radish]

physical dot in cs is not legal

[flint jetty]

Because your changing something that's not designed to be changed

[mortal cove]

PREACH

[cloud timber]

Debate on adding a dot to the screen is it cheating

That’s pretty much the whole thing

Some say it’s not and some say it is

[mortal cove]

Just like doping is a minor physical benefit in olympic sports :p

[tawny frost]

Wow,what a fucking comparison, from a 1896 shooter to a to a multi billion dollar game industry

[normal radish]

i wasnt the one making it

[mortal cove]

It's not much, but if you can cut-off 10s of a second, it's still an advantage

[normal radish]

and it doesnt have anything to do with money

[tawny frost]

Then stop crying
Its their game, they decide if a dot matters or not

[mortal cove]

There is a reason rule commitees are so hardass on rules

[normal radish]

oh another one pops up

[raven rune]

cant we talk about more important things like martini shredder...

[normal radish]

your a bit late so ill just dismiss you with a skill issue

[cloud timber]

Rip rounds are fun

[frigid ibex]

This is why you're my favourite

[uneven flax]

Haha comparing illegal drugs to physical stickers. Apples and oranges

[raven rune]

[mortal cove]

You also don't know the history of doping lmao

[normal radish]

apples and apples

[mortal cove]

Good stuff

I mention doping and you think of illegal substances, that's all I need to know

[uneven flax]

Let's be honest though. Third party software is the most textbook cheating there. Anything else is debatable.

[normal radish]

luu is so right here i can put a ➡️ sign on his messages

[upbeat lark]

remove the maynard scope and make it the third scarce weapom

[cloud timber]

Add Special rounds to quad

[normal radish]

but

[cloud timber]

Poison quad

Rip quad

Burn quad

[normal radish]

thatd be just dogshite springfield

[uneven flax]

What an ad hominem throwing intellectual. I actually like this debate but when you throw bullshit like implying people are stupid then that's the end of it.

[flint jetty]

Yeah it's definitely not advantageous for me to have a super good reticle with a bow

[upbeat lark]

144damage with the ability to use dumdum (if youre lucky)

[normal radish]

he didnt imply though, you kinda gave it away

[uneven flax]

This guy has been throwing insults for no fucking reason. Dude. At least argue friendly.

[bold tartan]

u guys talking about crosshair x?

[mortal cove]

Because you have just been wrong during most of this conversation lmao

I can't keep pretending to see you eye to eye when you keep being wrong to simple facts like audiomastering

[tawny frost]

Yo nice pfp, who is she?

[cloud timber]

No

[upbeat lark]

it is a shittier springfield in most situation but i just dont know how to ballance a 144damage weapon that have the ability to use dumdum without making it scarce

[normal radish]

make the dum dum scarce

which

is

now

done

[cloud timber]

Just a dot taped to the screen they’re debating if it’s cheating or not

Scarce everything

[normal radish]

not entirely that

but the center of the convo

[uneven flax]

Lol "wrong". Because they don't agree crosshairs are cheating.

Get out.

[flint jetty]

I mean crosshairs are wider on some guns for a reason right

[mortal cove]

Please point towards where I have insulted you :p

[upbeat lark]

saika kuozaki from the light novel King's proposal

[cloud timber]

Make it so we have to fist fight to get a gun

Scarce our firsts too

[upbeat lark]

mods asking permission to send a pic of the light novel

[cloud timber]

Scarce our happiness

[upbeat lark]

dont worry its not lewd

[flint jetty]

Like isn't part of the balance of weapons the crosshair like I should be able to be pinpoint accurate hipshotting with a Maynard unless I'm using the base crosshair

[uneven flax]

You're smart enough to know you're being sarcastic / rude for no reason. I don't need to tell you that. Arguments piss me off when one side thinks they're smarter than everybody else. Come on....

At least be friendly

[tawny frost]

Then why ask for perm 😭

[mighty meadow]

spyglass skin on sale when

[normal radish]

he was friendly for most and stayed polite

[cloud timber]

I’d buy it

[mortal cove]

You said I insulted you.

[upbeat lark]

some dont like anime to the point they cencor everything about it

[mortal cove]

I didn't

[tawny frost]

The mods??

[upbeat lark]

i just dont wanna risk a warning

[uneven flax]

Keep gaslighting. Haha. Anyway not worth the argument anymore.

[upbeat lark]

no im not sure if mods is like that or not but cant hurt to ask

[cloud timber]

Oh shit almost time to start my lazy tv watching day

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-3162630526972526919

[tawny frost]

Just send it in dm gang 🥀

[mortal cove]

Brother, you said I "keep insulting everyone"

Don't say stuff like that when it's just not true

hahahaha

[flint jetty]

Yeesh that's a cope laugh

[cloud timber]

I need to get ready ima go buy snacks and soda and candy and a meal and stuff

[frigid ibex]

All right, drop the subject you too.

[upbeat lark]

if i got warned its on you okay

[cloud timber]

And be unhealthy for today

[royal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/we-shouldnt-be-fighting-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e8-poor-and-stupid-gif-22865959

[frigid ibex]

Talk about hunt showdown

[opal dawn]

no

[tawny frost]

I no snitch

[uneven flax]

Nice double quote when there's literally no quote like that. Keep trying.

[frigid ibex]

I will get you gruganda

[woven cape]

Omg is that the one and only Gachaganda

[normal radish]

do it in dm then

[upbeat lark]

the mods is right here right now

[uneven flax]

ban. moobs

[upbeat lark]

the novel is nice

[frigid ibex]

That's not hunt showdown

[mortal cove]

The discussion was fundementally about Hunt and it's balancing

[tawny frost]

Its over we're cooked

[cloud timber]

You can’t judge a book by its cover

[upbeat lark]

+1 warning strike incoming

im cooked

anyway

mako

[mighty meadow]

when servers die its hunt shutdown

[cloud timber]

You don’t know it’s not hunt under the cover of the book!!

My client is not guilty

[mighty meadow]

i just realised i need spyglass skin just for sake of having it

it's one of the few things i dont have skin for

[upbeat lark]

i really love this mako skin

[normal radish]

there is one

[tawny frost]

Bro my 2 random prestige sins were spyglasses

[mighty meadow]

i mean, i need to own it

[normal radish]

its bb i guess

[frigid ibex]

Its reaching the loop where it'll either end by changing the subject or go down to disrespecting and insults. Just drop it.

[mortal cove]

Spyglass has dope skins

[grave rose]

you really love the mako huh

[upbeat lark]

indeed i do

[mighty meadow]

you guys dont get it, i mean i need to own it not that there's no spyglass skin

also, what's the second spyglass skin

[cloud timber]

Mako is my favourite shark

[mortal cove]

I already did Dizz No need to tell me

[upbeat lark]

its the worse long ammo weapon but i still love it

[uneven flax]

Spot on. Already came to that and honestly just ended it right there.

[normal kayak]

clearly is

[mighty meadow]

i see only this

[normal radish]

its not

it is indeed NOT the worse one

[mighty meadow]

and i dont recall another one being here

[normal radish]

yeh and

[flint jetty]

I think I need a martini both the gun and the drink

[normal radish]

i dont think there is more

[tawny frost]

Huh
I swear i had two, maybe different equipment then idk

[cloud timber]

Spyglass spyglass spyglass!!!

[frigid ibex]

#off-topic you can discuss it here tbh

[upbeat lark]

to me its the worse one compared to the krag

[mighty meadow]

anyways, spyglass skin on sale when

[upbeat lark]

oh yea i forgot that place exist

[opal dawn]

Let's have a moment for our goat, the flashlight 😔

[normal radish]

its a 100

[mortal cove]

I swear there was a 2nd Spyglass skin But I could be thinking of the dynamite stick here

[mighty meadow]

too much for a spyglass skin, lets be real

[cloud timber]

Your honor how would you know my client didn’t post a hunt showdown book if you only seen the cover

[mighty meadow]

lately i took spyglass once and i was like "this is so useless, how cool"

[normal radish]

hmmmmm you making me doubt

[mortal cove]

The flashlight and generators!! We‘ve been robbed!

[normal radish]

eh

its a hundo

could buy you nothing

[tawny frost]

Yo human wikipedia @fathom shale pull up the facts 🗣️ 📢

[mighty meadow]

for someone who doesnt pay for blood bonds its a lot

[upbeat lark]

oh my god this mako skin is nice

[normal radish]

generators were awesome

[mighty meadow]

and i refuse to pay since i dislike how monetisation went

[upbeat lark]

NOOO

[cloud timber]

It’s a myth

Not real

[tawny frost]

There was a really good one, i think its only for claw or aperture tho

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[opal dawn]

Here's how to make the spyglass cool: Make it work like a baton so it's also a melee weapon (Yes I know the optics would be fcked but you can beat things with scoped rifles too)

[upbeat lark]

i cant get it

so it might aswell be a myth

[normal radish]

a myth you cant see

[cloud timber]

It’s not the optics on the spyglass to worry about

[upbeat lark]

do not trample on my misfortune

[normal radish]

some day you gon get domed by one using it

and u will be sad

[mighty meadow]

here's how to make the spyglass cool: let you use it with weapons (not like actual scope, but make it usable while having weapon equipped)

[normal radish]

the n you know its not a myth

ITS REAL

YOU CANT HAVE IT MOOOHAHAHA

[cloud timber]

It’s the zeroing on hitting the rifle over and and over again on a poorly made optic and mount

[upbeat lark]

NO

[mighty meadow]

the only reason spyglass didn't share the fate of electric lamp was because there's a skin for it

[upbeat lark]

i shall train and steal them from all those that use it

[cloud timber]

If it can hold the zero then it’s fine… but I advise against banging your precision rifles around

[tawny frost]

😭

Thats actually so true

[mighty meadow]

refund me my 100 hunt dollars for lost electric flashlights

[uneven flax]

People actually use spyglass? Whenever I watch some streamers dont see anyone running it.

Althoughi guess its good for trios

[cloud timber]

Some optics in this game is held together by thin sheet metal and screws

So careful on those optics

[upbeat lark]

the ability to easily gaue distance is nice

[mighty meadow]

nobody does, i take it for the memes from time to time

i pretend im a pirate

[cloud timber]

Me too

I say things like hang the black flag 🏴‍☠️

[uneven flax]

if you got a premade and one of you brings it i guess it oke. esp if its a beginner who cant use utility that much. very niche use but i can imagine it

[mighty meadow]

that lowkey doesnt sound well

[upbeat lark]

im still sad

curse fomo i want that skin now

[frigid ibex]

Spyglass is good for peeking through the tiny gaps on wooden walls

[cloud timber]

https://tenor.com/view/black-pearl-flag-black-flag-pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-5419414197960120908

[frigid ibex]

But the downside is you have to swap to your weapon to shoot

[cloud timber]

Automatic Range finder

[woven cape]

Remember switching to your spyglass is always faster than reloading

[flint jetty]

What would be a good side to pair with the martini?

[uneven flax]

the moment you take out the spyglass you already lost that enemy though tbf. i think it's good for the early game when you need to spot the general enemy direction.

[frigid ibex]

Something spammy

[mighty meadow]

too niche to be actually usable because the number of times times you will find it useful make it useless

[cloud timber]

It’s like laser rangefinder

[uneven flax]

a porterhouse steak

[upbeat lark]

i wanna say pax or scott spitfire

[cloud timber]

You aim it and hit a button and boom the exact range

[flint jetty]

A officer or something probably would be good yeah

Close range option

[upbeat lark]

it already have a high enough ammo so you wont need to top it off with a long ammo sidearm so preferably something spammy with fmj

[cloud timber]

Chain pistol Fanning

[frigid ibex]

Officer, bornheim, narmy, spitfire, dolch if you're rich

[modern pebble]

lowkey I don’t know why I just don’t like the martini

[mighty meadow]

that's what i said earlier, you should be able to use spyglass with weapon equipped so you can quickly swap to iron sights

that would make it usable

[flint jetty]

Spitfire is the Schofield variant right?

[modern pebble]

If I want actual long ammo I run something with more than 400mv

[cloud timber]

How about two chain pistols in each slot with fanning

[upbeat lark]

yes

[mighty meadow]

yes

[cloud timber]

And a derringer quad just in case

[modern pebble]

If i want close range capability i do better with springy dumdum

[mighty meadow]

tale old as the world

[upbeat lark]

its pretty troubling to unlock it but its a nice weapon

[mighty meadow]

only for talented gamblers

[upbeat lark]

i like it much better than the officer or new army

[uneven flax]

Any reason why the range finger isnt baked in the ping system instead of the spyglass?

Like arc raiders' pings

[cloud timber]

I love gambling

Ima run it now

[frigid ibex]

The benefit of martini is the fast reload speed and high damage

Pretty good for compound fights

[flint jetty]

I actually rlly love dual wield chain pistols with dum dums

[upbeat lark]

yea the martini have a really fast reload even without fast finger

[frigid ibex]

You can usually pen most cover too

[mighty meadow]

question remains, spyglass skin on sale when

i recall it being on 48bb sale in past? or im projecting

[modern pebble]

idk I feel like having a long ammo primary that sucks with range feels like ass

[cloud timber]

Make it free at this point

[frigid ibex]

You could hope they walk into your bullet (lead)

[cloud timber]

Were the only two spyglass enjoyers

[modern pebble]

I love Springfield and I find sparks ok but I can rarely justify to myself using the martini

[modern pebble]

Leading is a skill but at 400mv it quickly becomes rng

[flint jetty]

Oo and I've been like the vetterli

[cloud timber]

https://tenor.com/view/jackscope2-gif-19049948

[upbeat lark]

vetterli is just a great gun trough and trough

[mighty meadow]

the only 3 tools i dont have skin for are decoys, decoy fuses and spyglass, guess which two doesnt have skins at all lol

[flint jetty]

Tho vetterli sights are a lil weird

Very tall

[uneven flax]

You're cooking. What if it can be a permanent part of the loadout and it doesn't take a slot.

[upbeat lark]

130 damage fast cycle time with iron eye the sight is a bit bad but you can get used to it fine

[cloud timber]

I’m always cooking

[modern pebble]

hetterli is borderline TOO good with iron eye

[upbeat lark]

410mv too (if memory is correct)

[modern pebble]

you are correct

[frigid ibex]

I don't like Springfield. It feels like the only niche it has is dumdum. All repeating long ammo does what Springfield does but better

[upbeat lark]

its so spammy

[modern pebble]

yeah but it’s a pretty good niche

[frigid ibex]

Idk, that niche has realistically 3 counters minimum

[upbeat lark]

god forbid they make a vertelli swift variant

[flint jetty]

Or a marathon dead eye :3

[modern pebble]

yeah but it’s some pressure

[cloud timber]

Spring field has a very quick reload and adds a lot of pressure and has a great one shot potential on body shots…

[mighty meadow]

reasonable, the only reason to bring spyglass would be that lmao

[modern pebble]

I insist that could be op

[cloud timber]

Still a great weapon

[modern pebble]

1s cycle time, 555mv with hv

shit would pop heads for free

[mighty meadow]

but its satisfying when you hit someone with dumdum springfield

[upbeat lark]

how much mv do marathon have without hv

[mighty meadow]

dumdum sparks when?

[frigid ibex]

There's no pressure if you use medkit (counter) with surefoot (another counterplay)
Alternatively if you have bloodless you can just ignore the damage cause tier 1 bleed is snooze damage

[modern pebble]

you have to use medkit within a time limit that’s what the pressure is

[soft marten]

So say i were to play springfield with its default ammo, would i lose ?

[cloud timber]

Sure foot can be countered with accuracy

[modern pebble]

it’s not really a counter more like the intended purpose

[upbeat lark]

in the apropriate range (30m or something) you apply heavy bleed isnt it?

[frigid ibex]

Swapping to medkit doesn't take 5 seconds

[modern pebble]

well ur losing out on the only benefit it has

[mighty meadow]

its almost the same as sparks/martini tbh

tag, swap, double tap

[modern pebble]

it’s a long time for you to be unable to let go of it in close quarters

[soft marten]

Sparks is a good weapon

[frigid ibex]

Springfields damage isn't comparable to martini and sparks damage

[modern pebble]

surefoot is just broken it counters everything

[mighty meadow]

i didnt compare damage but mechanics

[frigid ibex]

Surefoot let's you sprint and heal. It's honestly what catches people off guard still

[mighty meadow]

each of these weapons allow you to double tap someone

with swapping

alternatively you can use fast fingers

[modern pebble]

ideally you have a penetration capable secondary

[frigid ibex]

Springfield is less likely to happen because of damage fall off happening sooner and lower damage.

[cloud timber]

Doesn’t counter accuracy… however if they use it when in cover to run away then yes

[upbeat lark]

springfield dumdum and spitfire fmj is so good

[mighty meadow]

lets be honest, on that range it would be hard to double tap with pistol after tag anyways

[cloud timber]

Most of the time I hit a strafing player and they run while healing I can always finish with a pax

[frigid ibex]

Surefoot is the most broken trait even without dumdum in mind

[cloud timber]

Guess you can call it the apax

[upbeat lark]

tap with springfield make them go to cover where they think theyre safe and tap them with the spitfire

[cloud timber]

aPAX predator

Such a good all rounder

[frigid ibex]

I've never been dumdum + wallbanged.
I have been spitzer or normal long ammo wallbanged plenty of times. More than I can count

Before wallbang nerfs, ive died many times to double arm tags through walls

[cloud timber]

Dumdum has no pen it breaks apart like poison on impact

Unless it’s a nitro

[frigid ibex]

Dumdum when there's a fence cover

[cloud timber]

I know cloth, metal chicken wire and metal gates and fencing all have 1 or no pen

[mighty meadow]

guys i just got avtomat from challenges

thank you crytek, very cool

[cloud timber]

I read somewhere crossbow has 1 pen meaning it can’t pen even arms of hunters

[modern pebble]

Time traveler

[cloud timber]

But it can pen cloth and other things I mentioned

I assume it’s the same with dumdum

[frigid ibex]

Its called limbpen. All bullets even dumdum can pen limbs.

Arrows, throwables like knives and shovels, bolts can't pen limbs

[cloud timber]

Interesting

[frigid ibex]

The chicken coop and cloth basically only block throwables

Well not the cloth

But the coop

[mighty meadow]

trials flashback

[cloud timber]

Chicken wire makes a very loud confusing noise when shooting it

[frigid ibex]

There was a time when the cloth blocked throwables and bolts

[cloud timber]

It sounds like it stops but it goes through

[frigid ibex]

It was annoying

[cloud timber]

Also the event tent walls

[frigid ibex]

It probably did stop stuff long ago, I honestly never tried penetrating it back in the day

[cloud timber]

You can shoot bolts through tent walls

[cedar trellis]

is it me or do we have many peeps using vpn during the day?

[cloud timber]

How so

You can change servers in game

[frigid ibex]

I don't think whatever you're gonna say has something to do with vpn

[cedar trellis]

steam profiles say a lot when you have a look.

[mighty meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/396750148849500181/930205963909234688/monke.gif

[cloud timber]

Scary

I private mine

[upbeat lark]

wont you still get lag with vpn

[cloud timber]

Yup

[opal dawn]

Yes

[frigid ibex]

My steam profile can say I'm from åland islands when I'm actually from isle of man

[mighty meadow]

tfw i got queued with 2 star random once

[frigid ibex]

Even with that in mind, that has nothing to do with VPN

[opal dawn]

Wow ping abusing on the isles

[frigid ibex]

Be nice to them

[cloud timber]

I’m close to finding this rotjaw I just found a damn clue 2 compounds ago

Reference

[frigid ibex]

Hope you get death cheat from her

[cloud timber]

She drops it all the time for me

Same with hellborn

Hellborn and burn traits are a thing right

[frigid ibex]

People facing liars on the Internet: I believe this as the absolute truth

[mighty meadow]

they were crouching inside a building in boss compound for 10 minutes, not even peeking a window once, leaving me alone to fight duo after i did boss alone and eventually they just got rushed by that duo with bounty after i died

[cloud timber]

I swear I find only burn traits on him

[mighty meadow]

and i thought queueing with 2 star would be fancy

(it didnt lower match mmr for me, i still was in 5-6 star lobby with 2 star duo lol)

[raven totem]

it's been a long time since the game has allowed me to randomly catch a 2* but that sounds about right.

[mighty meadow]

i dont even know why game queued me with random 2 star while i was in high 5

[frigid ibex]

Its random queue

Use lfg if that bothers you

You can request specific mmr ranges

[mighty meadow]

its very old screen, first, second, the game should match you with similar mmr randos

third, i dont play with randoms anymore

so it doesnt bother me

with old sbmm on i could play against 3 6 stars while being in 4

proof

[frigid ibex]

This still happens I think

[mighty meadow]

yes it does

[frigid ibex]

Especially on low pop

[mighty meadow]

i can get whole lobbies of just 6 being in 5

[frigid ibex]

Well that can be intentional

[mighty meadow]

its not really fun when you dont want to sweat

[cedar trellis]

just had a match as a 5 star solo getting 6 star duos with one team being 3 stars. think this is just what happens during the day maybe?

[frigid ibex]

Its probably low pop right now.

[mighty meadow]

i dont know man

[modern pebble]

That’s me

[cloud timber]

Ok but

[fair flume]

Hunt really does just have silly matchmaking

[fathom shale]

5 stars will be always with 6 stars, I don't think it has ever been different

[mighty meadow]

match mmr 4,5 doesnt equal to match mm 5,5 or 6 though

[fathom shale]

People expect there to be way more brackets than the game can realistically have with it's current population

[modern pebble]

low 6 tho

[cloud timber]

Does hunt promise adventure rum and gold

[frigid ibex]

More players than i thought.
Now distribute those numbers to Asia, EU, RU, NAE, NAW, SA

[fathom shale]

Not even that

Stars are not matchmaking brackets, never have been

[mighty meadow]

does it mean low pop is permanent?

[fathom shale]

Each queue has their own amount of brackets depending on their playercounts based on the region, platform, mode and such

[mighty meadow]

because its daily player peak rn

[frigid ibex]

Whenever local time is 5pm somewhere it's mostly high pop for that region

[fathom shale]

And even in the best case like EU PC primetime the amount of brackets is like 4 at most as far as I can see

[cloud timber]

Hopping servers can help

[mighty meadow]

eh, according to charts hunt player peaks daily at 13 utc (which is now)

[frigid ibex]

And that includes all regions. So let's picture this way, Asia still has players playing and more EU players are hopping on.

EU can have more players past 5pm without the charts peaking

[mighty meadow]

tbh i have weird matchmakings in terms of mmr at any hours

[frigid ibex]

This is global population still

And then we have factors like duos, trios, clash, soul survivor, mmr

All different queues

[mighty meadow]

which means hunt mmr has issues with matchmaking anyways

[cloud timber]

What’s the big idea

Idk I remembered that Patrick quote

[fair flume]

Breadless crust
Thinking of going to some investors

[frigid ibex]

So you don't think splitting 24.7k players between 6 servers and 5 different game modes is a factor on player numbers

[opal dawn]

Going to the Investor Store now before you get to patent it

[normal kayak]

lalalalalalala

[cloud timber]

Can’t do that

[mighty meadow]

i think there should be enough players to match 5,5's mmr with other 5,5's mmr teams, not lower/much lower

[fair flume]

Goddamit somebody tackle them before they steal my millions

[cloud timber]

Big Burnt pizza already did

[mighty meadow]

especially when you land in whole lobby of these being the only one with lower team mmr

[cloud timber]

I accidentally burnt pizza and I had to throw it out… waste of 15 dollars 🙁

[mighty meadow]

be a man, eat it

[fair flume]

Okay new big idea
I call it plagiarism

[cloud timber]

Big plagiarism already did it sorry

[frigid ibex]

So maybe while you were queuing no one else with your mmr was queuing and it's prioritising faster queues

[cloud timber]

I’m not a man

[fair flume]

now here's where it gets good

[mighty meadow]

which still is an issue because results in frustrating games

[mighty meadow]

then be a woman and eat it, idk

[frigid ibex]

So population issue

Everything just leans to population

[cloud timber]

I baked a pie once

[normal kayak]

im a dude with higher than average testosterone and i aint eating no burnt ass pizza

[cloud timber]

Yummy yummy yummy

[frigid ibex]

:3

[mighty meadow]

shame on you, im eating rocks for breakfast and barbed wire for dinner

[cloud timber]

Yeah it’s all crust no bread

[normal kayak]

w<

[cloud timber]

I brush my teeth with razor wire

[normal kayak]

i’ll stick to my bbq pork buns bro

[mighty meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-3162630526972526919

[cloud timber]

Meat pie!!!

Yum yum yum

[cloud timber]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-anime-cry-about-it-about-to-cry-gif-3739977945369715242

[normal kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363112597200834704/1402065059001405470/attachment.gif

[cloud timber]

I love that

I like when games have it… (it’s useless) but I love it

[upbeat lark]

NTR!!!

[normal kayak]

huh?

its not useless in tarkov

you can crouch at different levels for holding more creative angles

[cloud timber]

No it is

I don’t need to know the exact height and degrees I’m sitting at

I can just tell right away

[normal kayak]

its very helpful

[fair flume]

r6 has the best stances
what other game allows you to lie down at a 45 degree angle, legs above your head on a couch in the corner of the room

ubisoft truly captured what it feels like to be an SAS operator

[cloud timber]

I broke my back in diamond lobbies

[normal kayak]

ubisoft is so ass bro

i cant wait for them to lose it all

[cloud timber]

I had to 90° my back

[normal kayak]

r6 was such a goos shooter

[fair flume]

Didn't they close down a fuckton of their studios recently

[normal kayak]

and then theyve taken it and gone

hmmmm

ranked 2.0

[mighty meadow]

worst gaming company along with EA and riot games

[fair flume]

How do you bomb so hard dude
you make assassin's creeds faster than activision makes CODs

[cloud timber]

Escape from hunt showdown

Hunters creed

Showdown

Showdown of hunt

[mighty meadow]

hunt shodow

[upbeat lark]

shoedown

[mighty meadow]

servers mainetance be like: hunt shutdown

[cloud timber]

Hello hunter island showdown

[frigid ibex]

Tencent saved them from bankruptcy so it won't happen sadly

[normal kayak]

FUCK TENCENT

TO HELL WITH TENCENT

[fair flume]

Punt Hoesdown

[cloud timber]

Chill guys

[mighty meadow]

tencent

[cloud timber]

They only got ten cents

They’ll go bankrupt

[normal kayak]

tencent really made abi had a decent game to work on

[fair flume]

woah
thats like a whole dollar

[normal kayak]

and then they spent the entire budget

on fucking inspect animations

is this counter strike

[cloud timber]

Woah… IN TODAYS ECONOMY

THATS LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS

[frigid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rat-meme-rat-flip-funny-cs-inspect-gif-3487868531884743074

[fair flume]

man that aint even an excuse when rockstar torched half their budget on
fuckin uhhh
can I even say it without getting muted

[cloud timber]

Hunter strike global showdown

[normal kayak]

hey that was worth it

actually good addition to the games

[modern pebble]

Hello my

[normal kayak]

unlike those fucking inspects