hunt-general

[mortal basin]

???

[modern pebble]

c&k equopped

[remote moss]

c&k doesnt exist

why does it exist when terminus levering works better and has less recoil

oh yeah, slugs

be a real buckshot or dragonsbreath fan with term

[modern pebble]

give long terminus

with 12 round capacity

[remote moss]

stop power creeping buckshot

specters already the best shotgun for value

[modern pebble]

are there any long barrel shotguns other than Romero c&k and spectre

did they add any

[remote moss]

rivals not a long barrel?

[modern pebble]

nah

[remote moss]

disgraceful

maybe lemat carbine

[modern pebble]

oh wait

im an idiot

the homestead

that’s the long barrel

[remote moss]

should add homestead, its fair and balanced powercreep

its too hard to land two shots, people will prefer the easier options even though its extremely consistent and effective

why be effective with homestead when can specter or ck forgivingly instead

[modern pebble]

wouldn’t that kill the rival

[remote moss]

itd kill the rival like trueshot killed pax

people will cry but in the end, meta always wins

[modern pebble]

isn’t that bad

[remote moss]

yes

but good for homestead players

[modern pebble]

Non scarce homestead but it costs 601 dollars

so that you always think hey I could buy an auto 5

and like decoys or something idk

[remote moss]

itll be a mix. people at a lower skill level will run homestead cause most cant control ck recoil cause theyre bad

then at the middle, people will want ck slugs for consistency

then at the very top, the two tap of the homestead is too appealing to not run

though too many buckshot ck shorty users nowadays, i guess mosin ck will still be too popular

[modern pebble]

to fix that they should add gunrunner again

[raven totem]

it's smooth as hell what are you talking about lol

idk I could see homestead being dropped from scarce but it would have to be priced high

wildland should stay right where it's at

[mortal basin]

They both should smfh

[modern pebble]

601 price tag

[dense sleet]

what?

it is not better than the cnk

[spark plaza]

Amogus?

[modern pebble]

gotta be above c&k to make people think hey I could buy a c&k

wow man this extra dollar would be nice to have

[raven totem]

I wouldn't say better, but on par

[west nebula]

I killed 3 hunters but then got killed by scrapbeak

unfortunate but I did kick some hunter ass

first real hunter kills in a match and I stacked it up with three others

I didn't know I couldn't loot burned out hunters

[raven totem]

yup

[left orbit]

i think i like the handcrossbow

tiewww

[west nebula]

I bet they didn't expect me to use necromancer after they killed me so that was a fright for them

[spark plaza]

Scrapebeak lowkey beats my ass

[modern pebble]

How bro

[left orbit]

scrappy hits strong and runs fast

[spark plaza]

He's so op 💔

[west nebula]

I tried to stop the bleedingh from scrapbeak in the middle of getting attacked cause I was all scared from fighting

[modern pebble]

Also that’s a great first game

[modern pebble]

hold on. you for real ?

[west nebula]

bow kicks ass

felt like this using necromancer

[spark plaza]

Yes, raid boss scrapebeak beats my ass

[frozen current]

bruh scrapbeak is super strong

[modern pebble]

this legit impresses me

ive always considered him like, third easiest

the boss that bothers me is assassin

what a fucking cockroach

[echo ridge]

is it just me or hunt got laggier overnight 💀 i swear i was playing 100 fps now it only 70

[royal cloak]

Skill issue

[echo ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-plushies-watermelon-squish-cats-getting-squished-by-watermelon-gif-14346272645866183349

[west nebula]

if I get a hunter to tier 3 do I unlock that as a hunter?

so rookie, then wahtevers next becomes a new hunter I can recruit?

[spark plaza]

Yes

[west nebula]

ooo thats cool

[royal cloak]

Yes itll be a separate hunter

[hasty wharf]

drilling

[dense sleet]

well that was a first for me

[modern pebble]

is it actually long barrel

[dense sleet]

yea

[west nebula]

I only have three hunters that have different tier skins, how do I get more hunters with tier skins?

[dense sleet]

its a romero

[dense sleet]

prestige mainly

[modern pebble]

does drilling shorty have Romero hc range

[west nebula]

so untill I can prestige my only male hunter with tier skins can be this guy?

[dense sleet]

i dont remember

[dense sleet]

i think?

@west nebula

[raven totem]

about to leave for work

[dense sleet]

sadge

[hasty wharf]

i think its not too far off but those are both short barrels anyway

[raven totem]

ye

[left orbit]

[dense sleet]

didnt even offer to accompany me for at least one game

[west nebula]

is there any way to see what hunter this guy is?

ie what prestige guy?

[dense sleet]

isnt in the game atm iirc

might return at one point

[raven totem]

WHERE BLACK COAT NIGHT SEER?

[modern pebble]

so many tiered hunters were cool

and are now gone

[dense sleet]

eh

didnt bother me much

[modern pebble]

in favour of the black guy who doesn’t have his hair on his head

[dense sleet]

i only played legendaries

[modern pebble]

he has NEVER had his hair on his head

[west nebula]

its joever

is the bush tier 3 guy in the game?

[modern pebble]

for the short time where tiered hunters were half price for their loadout I was a bald lady with glasses main

[hasty wharf]

i have a thing for bald women so i was quite happy to get laura t2 back

[raven totem]

ye

[hasty wharf]

yea

[remote moss]

im going off the fact that i often dodged most slug ck shots until inevitably dying to the last two or so in each magazine during the gunrunner events

[dense sleet]

everyday the number gets funnier

[hasty wharf]

most played hunter of 2025 btw

[remote moss]

all those shitty mosin players could not aim ck for the life of them, but it was semi auto and forgiving

[modern pebble]

im taking note

[raven totem]

oh cnk goes all over the place ye

[remote moss]

get the 6.99 bald caps, the cheaper ones leech into your hair

oh yeah my phrasing was bad, nvm

[dense sleet]

i mean, to their defense, it does got a gnarly recoil pattern if you arent used to it

[hasty wharf]

i usually play monroe but i still like her a lot

[dense sleet]

still a crutch though for sure

[tepid drum]

i have finally achieved greatness

[modern pebble]

if I ever shave im rizzing em

[hasty wharf]

but yeah jesse buchanan: vet was the #1 played hunter in the youtube short they posted of 2025 stats

[remote moss]

ah yes, the mid tier camo

[dense sleet]

i dont remember if that stays after the event or not xD

[modern pebble]

lmao the community are such goofballs bro

ghillie gameplay

it’s so funny

[wet locust]

I know solos can teamup sometimes because it's easier then fighting over 2 bounties they can't pick up. But what about two teams of 3 in a game only fighting a 3rd team? Is that allowed? I have video of two trios only fighting us and then hanging out, buying pacts, searching our bodies, and just doing things at the circus with each other.

[west nebula]

is there any good secondary to go with bow that isn't as expensive as the haymaker

279 hunt dollars will make me go broke......

[modern pebble]

nah dw you’ll make money

[tepid drum]

it does

[modern pebble]

but if u want cheap 2 slot well ur options r a little limited

[tepid drum]

i hope they just let us buy them 🥺

[modern pebble]

centennial has a short variant

[west nebula]

untill I can get a rifle and become scum of the earth rat i'll have to do with the haymaker.........

[hasty wharf]

haymaker the goat but cent or drilling shorty are also good. drilling probably expensive too idr

[modern pebble]

yeah if haymaker is too expensive drilling is like double the price no ?

wait no that’s full size

shorty is like 350

[wet locust]

I can't remember if this place has an official way to report people that isn't in the game itself either.

[remote moss]

drilling shorty is better because of a lower time to reload

[hasty wharf]

shorty is 330 yeah

[west nebula]

I shot a hunter at like 9-13 meters away with it's shotgun and it didn't kill so i'm feeling a little iffy on the haymaker

[tepid drum]

hand crossbow is fucking goated

[modern pebble]

but wb my Romero range

[west nebula]

double bow action?

[remote moss]

romero hatchet is still busted

[tepid drum]

i am so serious hand crossbow chokes are so good

[remote moss]

i dunno about the handcannon though

[modern pebble]

why

[remote moss]

I hope you get bruiser'd for your crimes against hunt

[hasty wharf]

handcannon lowkey better

[modern pebble]

alright I feel the need to ask

why is hatchet specifically busted

[remote moss]

here i am trying not to tell anyone that romero handcannon is viable

[modern pebble]

hc reloads faster

[left orbit]

what in the shredd…

[remote moss]

if i tell people hatchet is busted, people are going to use hatchet, fail and avoid romero

that way theyll never touch the current romero handcannnon

[modern pebble]

is that the thing u were doing with the Springfield explosive

never heard bout that meta bro

[left orbit]

i mean

[remote moss]

no, that springfield explosive backup is still strong as fuck

the problem is that its only one shot, its better to use uppercut explo

[left orbit]

centennial talon
romero hatchet
axes and/or spear

[dense sleet]

dual haymaker is kidna funny, reminds me of old quickswap meta

[hasty wharf]

bow + bomb launcher tbh

[remote moss]

and long ammo explosive is more dmg and range

[hasty wharf]

bow+chukonu 🤔

[dense sleet]

it shoots so quick but sway innaccuracy be damned

[modern pebble]

bomb launcher is unironically good.

[west nebula]

1200 xp with two romero shotguns to get the romero hatchet, is it worth it to drop the bow for a bit to get those two guns xp?

[remote moss]

anyway, the real way to use explo ammo is to throw a frag and then shoot it with a high aoe weapon

why wait for fuse time

[hasty wharf]

haymaker with bomb launcher one of my recent loadouts tbh

[modern pebble]

Romero hc is fantastic

[raven totem]

no they're trolling, don't worry about it

[west nebula]

🤨 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[modern pebble]

how u liking it

[hasty wharf]

waxed frags are lowkey crazy and i dont even take bolt thrower

[modern pebble]

what ammo btw

[hasty wharf]

harpoons plus waxed, base on haymaker

[modern pebble]

unless you really need a melee attachment hc is kinda better

[modern pebble]

yeah that’s what I like to run too

good man

[raven totem]

if you're new you should play what ever intrests you, if romero shorty is that intrest, go for it, it's a good gun. it's not as crazy as it's being hyped up here though.

[tepid drum]

it is my favourite weapon in the game

[west nebula]

i'm gonna use the bomb launcher with bow and arrow : - )

[remote moss]

hatchet is just too strong as a backup if youre being pushed

drilling hatchet is one of the most uninteresting ways to play hunt

[tepid drum]

i just run bruiser myself and fight in chokes

[raven totem]

they're kinda the same thing are they not? could diversify your range?

[remote moss]

i hope bruiser never comes back so you cant abuse people with mechanics you cant play around

choking people through entire floors

[west nebula]

I was just gonna use the bomb launcher to kill bosses and meatheads

I don't have anything long range yet I think

[tepid drum]

I have always been a hand crossbow enjoyer. Bruiser is just sprinkles

[tepid drum]

I am very very annoying to fight because of this lol

if you make noise you will just be choking

[remote moss]

heres another cheat, you can burn people through the floor with flame rifle on the first two maps

its so funny

normally you just abuse dark dynamite bundles and dynamite sticks to get free kills on the people a floor above you

even frag works

[west nebula]

oh

[modern pebble]

I mean lowkey at low mmr you could prolly ignore the gun

[west nebula]

or a sniper and hand crossbow?

[modern pebble]

just use the hatchet

[dense sleet]

pennyshot derry would like to meet

also fuck the short drilling in general

great gun, fantastic util 2 slot

[remote moss]

we dont speak about broken tools like pennyshot

[dense sleet]

but the knub ruins it

[hasty wharf]

nerf spyglass tbh

[tepid drum]

i wish the regular drilling was cheaper

[dense sleet]

it should be

at least 50-100 cheaper

[hasty wharf]

seriously why have we not gotten electric lampb ack what the fuck man

[dense sleet]

its nowhere near as good as mosin

[tepid drum]

i used to run drilling hatchet + hand crossbow because i was too poor for a full drilling

[tepid drum]

it should be $300 and the short drilling should also be $300 and the hatchet $310 lmao

[dense sleet]

but it still is quite strong with the right practice, i cant use that gun bc of hte wierd velocity with DD or FMJ

[dense sleet]

yea no

400 would be fine, and keep the 2 slots around 200-250ish

[tepid drum]

you act like the cyclone isn't $280

[dense sleet]

cyclone doesnt break anything

neither does drilling bu

[hasty wharf]

cyclone should be fifteen thousand hundred million dollars

[tepid drum]

the cyclone and the Drilling should be less than $30 in price difference

[dense sleet]

cyclone could use a small bump since its quite stronk, and drilling is s tronk but too much $$ for its strength. 330ish for cyclone would be fine and 400 for full length drilling and 250ish for the 2 slots

[tepid drum]

imo the 2 slot drillings are unironically better than the long ones

[dense sleet]

we have to remember that obrez exists and outclasses the 2 slots

by miles

[tepid drum]

the short crown and king isn't half as good as the full one

it is better

[modern pebble]

the knub ?

[dense sleet]

what?

[dense sleet]

the irons are awful

worst irons in the game

[remote moss]

yeah, the 2 slots are strong because they open up a primary slot at little cost. very frustrating

[tepid drum]

i love the drilling irons

[modern pebble]

is it bad if I don’t mind em

[dense sleet]

the 3 slots are fine

[modern pebble]

they’re defo some of the worst tho

[dense sleet]

the 2s are awful

[modern pebble]

but they’re usable enough

[west nebula]

lightfoot or quartermaster if i'm on the fence about bringing a bow with maynard sniper?

solo hunting also

if that changes it

[tepid drum]

i don't mind either

[tepid drum]

... which is why it should all be $300

[dense sleet]

no

[modern pebble]

obrez 600

[dense sleet]

the drilling IS strong

but it is not mosin level

so 510 is way too much

[modern pebble]

lowkey if there were more 2 slot long ammo options I wouldn’t mind obrez being 600 but as is it feels like the ONLY option

[dense sleet]

anything less than 400 for the 3 slot would be ludicrious

that would be more than fair

[modern pebble]

98

[tepid drum]

the short drillings are not meaningfully worse in the ranges where you should use it

[dense sleet]

they suffer in shotgun range and velocity quite hard

but they are still great 2 slots

i just now reread what you said. the 2 slots being around 300 would be fine

[modern pebble]

aren’t they already 300

[dense sleet]

idk

i dont buy em

[modern pebble]

what do you buy buddy

[west nebula]

this feels pretty good

confident in this

[modern pebble]

wait hold the fuck on does the uppercut p cost more than a obrez

[modern pebble]

you’re new to the game and already a dauntless chad ?

incredible

[remote moss]

its mosin adjacent and one of the meta two slots. you have a gun that wins in fire rate for two taps and still has shotgun on backup opening up room for any primary to dominate. cyclone, mosin, or ck

[tepid drum]

I only use fmj so it's 371 vs 340 and I can't tell the difference

[west nebula]

it's only 1 point and seems pretty useful

[remote moss]

its why bornheim match is technically better than officer carbine, you dont have to sacrifice a primary slot even if carbine is generally better in performance

and ck shorty, like the choke bolt fucker said

[tepid drum]

the full one should be $300 too. It is the same but takes up more of your loadout slots

[west nebula]

I forgot to use it when someone threw dynamite like 7 feet away from me and I lost two bars

[tepid drum]

$330 $340

[remote moss]

good thing people suck at using it

dont want match inadvertently getting included in the two slot nerf

[modern pebble]

doesn’t that have no range tho

like even worse than rival hc

[modern pebble]

There’s a two slot nerf happening ?

[remote moss]

dunno, ive seen it work fine at 10m buckshot

not one shots, mind you but buckshot aimpunch and two taps

[tepid drum]

it is stupid. Auto-4 should be more expensive than the Auto-5 and i mean that with my chest

[raven totem]

a smidge better iirc, most scenarios about the same though

[remote moss]

its probably an 8m one tap with shorty at most

[tepid drum]

I'm pretty sure it's 10 now

[remote moss]

oh nice

[tepid drum]

they buffed short shotguns a while back

a shit ton

[remote moss]

does ck shorty get slug 15m or is it still 10m like lemat?

[modern pebble]

tbh

[tepid drum]

like

[modern pebble]

i prefer shorty spectre

[tepid drum]

it's 10 i think

[modern pebble]

over auto 4

[dense sleet]

10.5

10.5
12.5
15.5

are hte slug ranges

[tepid drum]

for reference the short Romero loses 0.5m on buckshot 1 shots compared to the 3 slot

i don't know the exact numbers for the rest

[modern pebble]

Romero hc is so fire

[tepid drum]

but it's similarly insignificant

[tepid drum]

and the Drilling handcannon is identical

which is why it should not be cheaper than the full length drilling

it is effectively the same shotgun but you can run another 3 slot with it

[modern pebble]

there is no way the auto 4 loses insignificant distance over auto 5

[tepid drum]

and the Rifle just has a little more sway

[fallen goblet]

can anyone help me out? i just got this game a few days ago and i would love to have some tips and tricks to help learn the game

[dense sleet]

i love how homie flags himself xD

[tepid drum]

i think it might lose 1m

[modern pebble]

gun safety was unironically not invented

[remote moss]

reckless for a reason, on g

[modern pebble]

keeping ur finger off the trigger is not that old of a concept for example

[remote moss]

who knows, itd make sense for balancing but the question is how long will it take to come out

im hoping they touch overtuned stuff like carbine and cyclone

[tepid drum]

no

[dense sleet]

the youtuber "PsychoGhost" has a lot of great guides aimed towards new players, and is a realistic player when it comes to content. shows losses and mistakes etc etc

[modern pebble]

honestly

i don’t feel like this game is toooo bad with broken stuff ?

[fallen goblet]

with single action revolvers the hammer has to be cocked all the way back to be any danger to yourself

[fallen goblet]

okay ill have to check him out

[whole mist]

2 slot shotguns are probably the most unbalanced thing in the game atm. That’s about it

[modern pebble]

im pretty sure it stays cocked

[tepid drum]

agreed

[dense sleet]

long still trumps them

[tepid drum]

make quartermaster scarce and it is fine

[modern pebble]

and even that doesn’t feel unbeatable

like

[tepid drum]

not meaningfully

[whole mist]

But there really isn’t anything that’s like “OMG this has to be nerfed NOWWWW!!!”

[modern pebble]

idk i feel like this isn’t a game where unbalanced things ruin it and make u quit

[dense sleet]

but its since to have 2 slot shotguns be useful again, if not they are a bit much in some specific cases

[modern pebble]

yah

[mild flower]

the issue is with quartermaster you can have both

[dense sleet]

absolutely what?

[modern pebble]

he said .5m

[dense sleet]

Long is the end all ammo, its what everything is compared too bc it excels in essentially all major stat points

[full jungle]

Except style

[modern pebble]

thought u meant long shotgun

long ammo is best BUT

[full jungle]

Using long ammo automatically disqualifies you for style points

[modern pebble]

my trueshot fmj is aura

[modern pebble]

not true tbh

[mild flower]

uh martini henry
sparks pistol

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/stank-ass-shit-bathroom-stinky-smelly-gif-17825204

[remote moss]

specifically the ck and drilling shorty. the other ones arent as problematic. and then you have mosin obrez drum which is 25 long ammo ON A SECONDARY on an obrez that works as well as a regular mosin in most situations

[tepid drum]

untrue

[modern pebble]

sparks pistols dualies

[mild flower]

martini henry and sparks pistol are very stylish
sparks and uppercut are somewhat stylish
all the other long ammo yea fair enough

[whole mist]

Quartermaster being scarce might be good. That or make it so Catalyst allows you to take 2 slot shotguns. Without catalyst you can only take other 2 slots.

Idk

[modern pebble]

spectre shorty is quite good too

[mild flower]

then people just take bow

[tepid drum]

the shredder and the flame rifle should just be weapons that you can buy

[mild flower]

which would cause the same problem

[remote moss]

specter shorty has failed me with slugs often, its very nice

[modern pebble]

bow is better than short shotties anyways

[tepid drum]

they aren't particularly strong or annoying

[remote moss]

i dont remember if it was because of the rng or range

[modern pebble]

i haven’t seen a flame rifle yet but it sounds annoying

[remote moss]

funny 27m body taps and its good fo rpve

[modern pebble]

but but but the charge up !!!

[mild flower]

i thought it was longer than 27m

[tepid drum]

it's kinda bad

[whole mist]

Flame rifle is not really good. I don’t take it unless I’m ok with dying

[tepid drum]

it is now

[mild flower]

are you accounting hh and first bleed tick

[remote moss]

its slow mv so most people are bad at leading it so it underperforms severely. if you prefire with it, you set people on fire and deal 50 to 100 dmg while being safe to back up into the corner before they even see you

[tepid drum]

especially with hundred hands

[remote moss]

hh is like 33m

[mild flower]

counting bleed?

[remote moss]

dont care about the bleed tick, lets even it out at 35m

no

[modern pebble]

Bow is legit better than shotguns

[mild flower]

fair enough

[tepid drum]

the bow fucks

[modern pebble]

the bow fucking sucks at being balanced

[tepid drum]

its not problematic

[remote moss]

slow mv means you cant contest shotguns with it since they can also back up before it even hits them after shooting you

[modern pebble]

how

[remote moss]

its designed for area denial, theoretically broken but weak enough that its other use cases are fine

[tepid drum]

do you die to it often and feel upset when you do

[mild flower]

it is not that slow

[remote moss]

i walked in a straight line and some motherfucker missed everything but the first shot in like 10m

[mild flower]

that is a skill issue

[remote moss]

well, they probably just sucked at leading, the mv might not be that badf

its basically a free hit since its aoe projectiles

[whole mist]

Need to be careful when balancing the bow. It can turn into garbage juice real quick if over nerfed

[modern pebble]

no i use it often and feel that it’s more broken than any 2 slot shorty that isn’t c&k

shit is gross

[mild flower]

likely they were overleading because you dont even have to lead with bow at 10m unless youre aiming at the side of their back and they are sprinting perpendicularly to you

[remote moss]

no, they severely underled from the opposite direction i was walking

literally no one leads flame rifle, and no one cares enough to learn it

its a 5/20 weapon, 5 automatic shots that fire 2 projectiles each dealing 25 dmg for 50 dmg per shot

just tap fire 5 times with it if youre struggling, really

[tepid drum]

it takes more skill than a shotgun imo

[mild flower]

❓

[tepid drum]

if anyone nerf the ammo count

[remote moss]

they were shooting where i was, not where i was going

and that basically sums up 90% of flame rifle engagements

[tepid drum]

i agree

[modern pebble]

eh slightly more but it’s better

[remote moss]

on the other hand, when i tried to test flame rifle, never got into range or couldnt even see what i was fighting at

[modern pebble]

imo if u find 2 slot shotties unreasonable u should find bow unreasonable

[mild flower]

both of bows downsides are pretty easily accounted for

[tepid drum]

how would you guys price these

[modern pebble]

idk

shredder can still bounce ?

[tepid drum]

yeah but it's entirely skill based now

i have over 100 shredders

and it is my most killed weapon

and

i have 3 ricochets

[mild flower]

$225 shredder and $370 flame rifle

[tepid drum]

the bouncing isn't problematic at all

[mortal basin]

They don't have to be op as shit to be scarce

Why do we have to add every single event exclusive to the base game

[tepid drum]

scarce weapons as a concept are lame as hell imo

[modern pebble]

cuz more slop = good

[mild flower]

yeah scarce minimizes the annoyance factor of encountering a gamechanging thing over and over again

[modern pebble]

scarce mechanic is mostly a substitute for proper balancing

[tepid drum]

that's why you do it to introduce things in case they are annoying

[tepid drum]

i agree

[modern pebble]

this ammo is op ? ok scarce now !

[tepid drum]

once you know something is balanced, make it buyable

[mortal basin]

For ammo, sure. The weapons are just novel, fun additions. I don't understand the hate for them, or why people want them to be completely op for them to be worth

[remote moss]

shredder is ok, the bounce isnt as effective as you would want it to be when pushing tight doorways against long angles

its very good for corner kills if youre close to someone though

[modern pebble]

scarce weapons im ok with although im sad I never actually used the homestead

[hasty wharf]

think its 13.5 for medium

[modern pebble]

scarce ammo is legit the worst thing ever

[tepid drum]

the game needs more wacky weapons like the shredder flame rifle and bomb lance. the game loses something if you never see them

how many times have you seen the homestead or wildland this event

[tepid drum]

i agree

[modern pebble]

well it ain’t from this event

[hasty wharf]

they're still in the game

[whole mist]

I don't mind having scarce ammo

[modern pebble]

yeah but where u even getting em

[whole mist]

it's nice not seeing bleed centenial or bleed dolch 24/7

[tepid drum]

exactly

[modern pebble]

it’s dogshit

[modern pebble]

yeah but that’s stupid isn’t it

[tepid drum]

just fucking remove them

[hasty wharf]

gotta just get lucky and find a box i guess

[mild flower]

homestead and wildland def shoulnt be purchaseable because they completely invalidate cent, romero and rival

[tepid drum]

i 100% agree

[modern pebble]

an ammo type is unbalanced so u make it so ppl run into it once in a blue moon instead of making it actually balanced

that’s shit

[tepid drum]

but the shredder and flame rifle are just new weapons that invalidate nothing

[hasty wharf]

ong thats what im sayin. remove explosive crossbow

[tepid drum]

you would not see them frequently still

[modern pebble]

that doesn’t seem to be a problem when u look at trueshot vs pax

[whole mist]

But it's nice when you DO find one. Then you feel powerful for a match (or get instantly headshot anyways )

[spark plaza]

Why romero doe

[remote moss]

i already have over 130 dragons bolt banked up for when they finally realize its not an engaging bolt ammo type

[modern pebble]

let’s invalidate more weapons 🔥

[whole furnace]

Why tho?

[remote moss]

i cant wait for them to scarce it once they realize its still part of the unfair free dmg cycle of weapons

[mild flower]

homestead is a double barrel romero. ig it technically doesnt have that extra ammo slot but you're usually running double buck on romero anyway

[hasty wharf]

dont make me get the screenshot

[whole furnace]

Get it

[modern pebble]

legit im gonna fucking tweak out if we start scarcing more shit

[desert acorn]

Was teaching a friend to play. You see him at the end. Bear in mind, he wasn't afk, but was watching his screen actively, and even talking with me.

[modern pebble]

im not playing fucking tarkov

stop making me loot and look for shit

[tepid drum]

which is stupid. If something is OP remove it. you should not have a chance to fight something unbalanced

[tepid drum]

💯

[remote moss]

i have that clip recorded as posted exactly 24 times over 3 months

[spark plaza]

It's cheap and has many different ammo types, don't think wildland can cover that niche

[whole furnace]

Okay? So? Not OHKs

[tepid drum]

except cards and scarce traits tbh

[hasty wharf]

doesnt need to be a ohk to be oppressive and reward low skill

[whole furnace]

And like bomblauncher/lance does the same and cannot be bulwarked

[tepid drum]

those are good

[modern pebble]

those can stay

they’re fine

but my fucking ammo types ?

[spark plaza]

We should make bow a scarce weapon

[modern pebble]

either make shit balanced or don’t touch it

[remote moss]

the issue that its even harder to fight an explo bow inside of compounds than shotguns. they deal free dmg while being 100% safe, and now you have to run away or somehow punish in the time they reload another one with bolt thrower before being two tapped. even with bulwark, youre still dead in 3 hits, or one shot to most weapons

[modern pebble]

this weird inbetween genuinely sucks

[whole mist]

i agree. But they arent going to balance like that, so i'd rather have the scarce system as a somewhat safeguard in the meantime

[whole furnace]

Eh, Explosive crossbow is kinda whatever imo, you can do what you wanna do with that with a bomblauncher and don't take up a 3-slot

[hasty wharf]

???

[remote moss]

free dmg, little to no skill required to run it, and creates an unfair game state. its one thing to die to an angle holding shotgun, another to die and never be able to see your opponent

[modern pebble]

the bomb launcher does not explode on impact

[mild flower]

bomblauncher has a fuse what are you talking about

[hasty wharf]

bomb launcher does not explode on impact

[tepid drum]

I think weapons and ammo shouldn't be scarce. Your weapon is integral to your playing experience. Cards and Traits are far less important and are just spices. Your weapons are the meal you have. You should not have to gamble for what you eat

[whole furnace]

That fuse have never been a detriment imo

[tepid drum]

Why the hell wouldn't they

[spark plaza]

Explosive crossbow is mogged by bow

[desert acorn]

Crossbow has advantages over bow

[whole mist]

no clue

[desert acorn]

Explosive Crossbow is unique as a rocket launcher.

[mild flower]

it gives the opponent an actual opportunity for counterplay
they can run away, they can dauntless, or they can peek and kill you while you're reloading or switching weapon

[spark plaza]

Ngl bow is a better nitro

[tepid drum]

kid named hand crossbow choke bolt defusing the bomb lance that is inside of your chest

[whole furnace]

Explosive Crossbow can at least get bulwarked.

[tepid drum]

the nitro should be $10 shit is so ass

[modern pebble]

I never ate full damage from a bomb Lance shot

[desert acorn]

Muzzle Velocity matters

[mild flower]

who's running bulwark man

awful trait

[tepid drum]

flash bomb enjoyers

[remote moss]

if bomb launcher fuse is the same as frag bows was, its not escapable if it lands directly on you

[spark plaza]

Bulwark lowkey goated

[desert acorn]

I've used nitro twice. I've gotten kills both matches. It's a hipfire monster.

[whole furnace]

Just sayin' waxed frags is much better than explosive crossbow

[hasty wharf]

i run bulwark every game (stopped for a while but i picked it back up) and it doesnt save you from dying to pretty much any gun in the game after someone sneezes in your direction with the explo crossbow

[desert acorn]

dauntless

[potent arrow]

bruh during this session every single game we have lost weve just all been killed by the only six star in the lobby (none of us are 6 star)

[remote moss]

yeah dauntless, but still rough

only weak spot with waxed frag is that the follow up is negated with surefoot

[spark plaza]

Fr it's so meme

[mild flower]

they are much higher effort becuase they let the opponent counterplay and require you to respond to your opponent's counterplay
which makes for a more engaging and balanced ammo type

[desert acorn]

Bomblance has shorter range explosives, and is a good, but not top tier melee.

[modern pebble]

dauntless costs 1 point idk why ppl still don’t believe in it

[potent arrow]

unless you can hit your shots then it actually wrecks

[tepid drum]

it is my favourite trait

[desert acorn]

Honestly, it's never worth it for me to take lance, over launcher

[spark plaza]

Nah man, I can cheese kills with bow so easily

[remote moss]

meta perks

[whole furnace]

Just to compare:
Waxed Frag: 136 damage, 6.5m AoE, cannot be bulwarked.
Explosive Crossbow: 124 damage, 4.5m AoE can be bulwarked.

Dunno man

[potent arrow]

i didnt say it was the best I said it wrecks

[modern pebble]

is there no flex slot

[remote moss]

not with current burn traits

lol

[modern pebble]

ah true

[spark plaza]

Bow is so op, we need to rework it

[desert acorn]

Explode on impact = unique

[turbid perch]

Getting back into the game after a long break, see that inflation has hit many items even in game lol, are cash registers still best way to beat Hunt-flation?

[desert acorn]

bow is top tier, not op. Lebel, Krag, Auto...

[whole furnace]

Yeah but if you get impacted by a waxed frag you not gonna survive either way.

[normal kayak]

yeah cash registers are goated

[tepid drum]

big cash registers

[hasty wharf]

you can totally survive a waxed frag direct impact

[remote moss]

explode on impact aka free dmg on any wall, corner, or floor youre nearby

[modern pebble]

Bow is better than hand cannons

[desert acorn]

But you can dauntless it, or avoid it.

[whole furnace]

How can you avoid it??

How fast do you think you are?

[mild flower]

shift w

[remote moss]

surefoot exists, you can run away much better against bleed and timed fuse, than explosive crossbow where they can corner fuck you no matter what you do

[turbid perch]

ah, good, was getting tired of how expensive just basic loadouts where

[remote moss]

surefoots the only thing keeping pvp shit like bleed and burn in check

[desert acorn]

Go in the opposite direction that the fuse is burning.

Get behind cover

Dauntless it

[spark plaza]

Bro those were not op before surefoot 💔

[whole furnace]

Also waxed frags can be bounced around corners and works well in wooded areas bc you just shoot the tree tops and the frag falls down on their head

[remote moss]

they were strong for delays and punished players that liked to actually play aggressively more than anyone else

[whole furnace]

Fuse is much shorter than you guys think, you cannot outrun it if it lands on your feet

[desert acorn]

Bow has amazing ohk range, and good utility. It's also silent. And it has a number of very prominent disadvantages over other top tier weapons

[remote moss]

anyway, the frag fuse is inescapable if it lands directly on someone, or directly above them. its much more escapable if its only nearby them, or around corners

[hasty wharf]

i mean dumdum lowkey got thanos snapped out of the game for a couple weapons

[remote moss]

in other words, more counterplay vs bomb launcher than explosive crossbow

and frag bow is still bullshit cause it can be spammed

[mild flower]

ok but if it lands 4.5m away from you? like the explosive crossbow would be guaranteed to hit at?

[modern pebble]

what’s ur basic loadout anyways

[mild flower]

you can also reduce the damage you take significantly by running even if you dont stop it entirely

[hasty wharf]

you can get far enough away that the direct impact plus explosion does not kill you, but it will definitely hurt

[mild flower]

whereas explosive xbow wouldve killed or done a lot of damage

[spark plaza]

I attribute that to the community as whole complaining like crazy

[turbid perch]

Springfield and basebal bat, 40 dollaers for a bat now yeesh

im super cheap

[modern pebble]

that’s crazy cheap

and that’s a freak loadout I can’t lie to you

[turbid perch]

40 dollers is alot

[modern pebble]

single shot and melee is wild

[remote moss]

use springfield bleed, its meta

[whole furnace]

Explosive Crossbow wouldn't damage/deal 12 damage to you (depending on what edge of the 4.5m you are) you if it landed 4.5m away from you lol

[noble schooner]

I picked up the humble bundle dlcs - I have one duplicate "Legends of the Bayou". Would someone who doesn't have it like it?

[turbid perch]

fast reaload and even faster with new finger perk

[modern pebble]

what do you do if there’s more than one guy in front of you

[turbid perch]

Swing away

[remote moss]

explosive crossbow will deal at least 75 dmg in most instances of that 4.5m range on any wall and corner with no skill, so thats nice

[modern pebble]

we boutta have no more 2 slot weapons soon cuz of it except bow because apparently bow is fine

[remote moss]

hits easily, used easily, of course people want it back

[modern pebble]

shit is better than hand cannons bro

[mild flower]

You can't account for AoE range falloff for the explosive crossbow but not for the waxed frags. That is not a fair argument then.

[remote moss]

low skill level means its always nice to have on hand if you cant perform, and if you perform poorly even in its extremely easy use case, its not op

[whole furnace]

Sorry yeah, meant 75damage not 12 damage in my above post lol

[desert acorn]

If everybody is using the same thing, that thing needs nerf

[remote moss]

ok good, i was getting mad

[desert acorn]

dds are exceptionally common.

[whole furnace]

Well waxed frag applies bleed and have a much bigger AoE radius

[desert acorn]

"were" I should say.

[modern pebble]

lmao

not mosin having been main pick since release basically

[desert acorn]

Yeah

[hasty wharf]

cant believe mosins gone this long without even getting tickled

[desert acorn]

Or Uppercut, for the first 5 years of the game

[spark plaza]

Long ammo since the start of the game

[desert acorn]

Except when Cenny dds with levering was king

[modern pebble]

honestly no need to kill all 2 slots again when we got shit like the cyclone in the game

[mild flower]

it does yes, its damage can still be minimized by being far enough away though
especially if you're running surefoot (and you are, if you are not running a meme ;-; or maybe if you have very specific trait picks at lvl 1) so bleed is much easier to patch

[whole furnace]

Dunno man, don't think explosive crossbow is much worse than waxed frag.
Like if you gonna argue that waxed frag loses to dauntless, so does explosive crossbow to bulwark.

[tepid drum]

wait so did you think the shredder/flame rifle should or shouldn't be buyable i think you said something that confused me on what you thought

[modern pebble]

i don’t really care either way honestly

[mortal cove]

Idk, early access Winfield fire rate was bonkers

[mild flower]

The difference is, dauntless is actually a useful trait in other scenarios. Bulwark is useless outside of explosive crossbow. people run dauntless in their right mind, not bulwark.

[whole furnace]

Surefoot doesn't make you spring faster (anymore lol).

[modern pebble]

if they’re buyable I doubt it’d ruin the game

so why not

[tepid drum]

it is but waxed frag is more interesting

[whole furnace]

Dunno, we have less and less frag overall, bulwarks is actually something to consider.

[mild flower]

they rework it?

pog

how

[hasty wharf]

Anyone know the cycle time of crossbow bolt thrower off the top of their head? it's gotta be like what, two, maybe three seconds tops

[whole furnace]

Never was an intended part of it lol

[noble schooner]

Would anyone like a Steam Key for the "Hunt: Showdown 1896 - Legends of the Bayou" DLC? I got an extra!

[tepid drum]

i agree. it feels like a waste of dev time if they just make things and throw it out yk?

[desert acorn]

bloodless is quite useful these days

[tepid drum]

yes

[noble schooner]

DMing yo{

[tepid drum]

did you get the humble bundle

[modern pebble]

sus

[spark plaza]

Bow is op

[modern pebble]

honestly I think we’ve reached a point where hand cannon complaints are excessive

[desert acorn]

Lebel is op

[modern pebble]

shit ain’t better than a bow

[mild flower]

#game-questions message you said it yourself

[desert acorn]

Mosin is op.

C&K is OP

bow is the only one that's affordable, and it has a much higher skill ceiling.

[modern pebble]

are we just listing shit

[lavish bear]

skill and bow in the same sentence

[desert acorn]

I'm tired of people that main CnK complaining about bow.

[modern pebble]

alr bro

[mild flower]

can do

[desert acorn]

Nobody whines about the best shotguns... just bow

[modern pebble]

that’s so fucking false

[whole furnace]

Oh yeah, bulwark is still wonky in that regard, but at least you not losing to the fragbombs anymore

[modern pebble]

the shotgun complaints are daily

[desert acorn]

It's not. It's exaggerated.

But bow gets the most shade

[modern pebble]

fuck no

[mild flower]

i see more auto 5 and auto 4 complaints

rightfully so

[modern pebble]

there’s way more ppl that act like hand cannons are broken but bow is fine

fuckin somehow

[desert acorn]

Bow is top tier. It's weak as hell in many circumstances. For instance, if you're not at short range, and you know where he is, and have literally any gun

[thin fossil]

What's a hand cannon

[modern pebble]

yeah it has more range than shotties lmao

like way more

[modern pebble]

2 slot shotguns

[thin fossil]

Ah gotcha, thanks

[hasty wharf]

crazy to say cause i be in here whining about shotguns every other week for years

[desert acorn]

Yep. And what's the muzzle velocity?

You get hit by a bow and die at 50M, and you KNOW the bow guy is shooting at you? You're standing still.

[modern pebble]

or the dude ain’t shit

ive hit far shots with a bow

ain’t so bad

[mortal basin]

Not once in my life have I been killed by bow past... probably 20m tbh

[desert acorn]

The people you killed at range sucked

[modern pebble]

hey that’s still longer than a shotgun can do

[desert acorn]

You can literally side-step an arrow

[whole furnace]

Since 2.0 lol

[hasty wharf]

thats genuinely insane because it can oenshot up to 36m

[mortal basin]

Shotguns do it instantly, though... and you can run with them...

[tepid drum]

and if you did you'd be like "damn" because that's impressive

[modern pebble]

wow I gotta hold lmb before I start jump peeking

[left orbit]

erm. died from rats.

[modern pebble]

must be shit

[mortal basin]

It honestly is lmao

[modern pebble]

ggs

[desert acorn]

I was not hiding here. They were loud, and I heard them a few minutes before this.

[modern pebble]

so you were hiding here

[desert acorn]

No. I went to this corner to greet them as they entered. Because they were bad

[modern pebble]

sorry what’s the point being supported by this clip

I don’t get it

[desert acorn]

That the bow is effective at short range, and people who complain about it often use bad positioning, or just are loud.

[hasty wharf]

36 meters is a bit past 'short range' imo

[modern pebble]

nah that’s baseball bat range bro

[desert acorn]

If you know you're being shot at by a bow-user, and you get hit at 36 meters, that means you are standing still

[tepid drum]

The bow is very very good

[tepid drum]

yes

[desert acorn]

Correct

[tepid drum]

it also can't 1 shot at 36m

maybe with bleed

actually

[desert acorn]

It's top tier. But no better than other top tier weapons

[hasty wharf]

I'm sorry, you think 150m/s velocity is impossible to hit a moving target with at 36 meters?

[tepid drum]

I agree

[desert acorn]

Correct

If they're actively evading you.

[tepid drum]

if their movement isn't complete balls yes

[desert acorn]

Not if they're moving predictably.

[modern pebble]

so why the fuck we crying bout shit that’s either worse or on par

that’s my question

[desert acorn]

When Uppercut was nerfed to be merely top tier, the community lost their shit

[unique trail]

We followed bounty team to another compound with the other bounty team

And survived and took 4 bounties

[whole furnace]

Bow is very good, it have options at many ranges and even if you don't connect a shot completely, it still applies medium bleed and good damage.

[desert acorn]

Definitely.

[tepid drum]

i think the bow being as good as it is while being dirt cheap is healthy for the game. Balancing weapons via cost us bad and having a good cheap weapon that's accessable to poor players is good

[desert acorn]

As a solo, I bring bow because my aim sucks, and with concertina arrows, I can lockdown a corpse, instead of having to kill the same guy 4 times

[whole furnace]

And its supposed weakness of requiring drawtime is basically just a myth lol
You can tap fire that bow and deal good damage up close, even OHK.

[desert acorn]

But I have to engage in very specific circumstances.

[modern pebble]

but a spectre hc is more problematic ?

[whole furnace]

They both are for kinda the same, kinda different reasons :)

[desert acorn]

Literally ANY pistol, including Derringer, beats me in a firefight past short range, if the person isn't crap.

[hasty wharf]

WHAAAAT

[tepid drum]

there's also this btw (i did not play during the last murder circus)

[modern pebble]

I can accept that, but to see mfs ignore the bow while crying about hcs daily annoys me

[hasty wharf]

Bow's velocity is literally higher than quad derringer 😭

[desert acorn]

Really?

[tepid drum]

184 shredder kills 🔥

[modern pebble]

Alright bro that’s just you

Legit

[desert acorn]

Sorry... I don't use it. I just watch Emaiza.

[hasty wharf]

yes, quad derringer is 130m/s and bow is 150

[tepid drum]

LMAO what

[modern pebble]

I knew I was fucking remembering right

[turbid perch]

500 dolla from bounty clash aint to bad? but shiiii that wont even buy some rifle guns?

[desert acorn]

Then let me say it accurately. Any pistol, except derringer, beats a bow in a firefight past short range, if they're not bad.

[modern pebble]

JustOG ain’t you the only one star I ever known

[whole furnace]

Bow requires slightly more skill too use, but the illusion it is much harder to use than a shotgun is kinda what keeps it hidden as a problematic weapon for many :)

Also people really like strong stuff

[turbid perch]

gotta doge that huntflation, hunt IRS is after me stash

[tepid drum]

yes

[whole furnace]

and hates at admit if something is too strong

[modern pebble]

There’s so much shit yall call broken im boutta think the game is balanced right now

[tepid drum]

i think it is balanced as much as it should be

[whole furnace]

Eh, I think CQC is in the worst state it have every been.
But beyond that Hunt is mostly fine

[hasty wharf]

I think bow is technically the only weapon in the game that can oneshot to leg, since every other leg "oneshot" is actually multiple damage instances, right?

[tepid drum]

it is good for the game to have weapons of varying goodness

[desert acorn]

Only with a trait

[mild flower]

issue is the way the game is built right now encourages CQC over anything else

[desert acorn]

It literally CANNOT without the trait

[tepid drum]

it can't one shot to the leg at all but the shredder simply can

[modern pebble]

Trade window changes means it’ll never be the worst

[tepid drum]

wait maybe it can at like 4m with hundred hands

[whole furnace]

That is techincal, not balance.

[hasty wharf]

It definitely can with hundred hands, up to 7 meters, 8 with poison arrows

[desert acorn]

Yeah. But that's a 2 point trait.

[modern pebble]

it’s a massive change for cqc

[tepid drum]

yeah my bad I forgot

[desert acorn]

Like martialist. Without it, the katana is a saber.

[modern pebble]

i used to trade with fucking dead bodies that hit the floor

[desert acorn]

With it, it's the best pvp melee

[turbid perch]

are the cash registers in differant spot now?

[modern pebble]

you don’t even NEED HH

[desert acorn]

To one shot to the leg, it's literally impossible with the bow without hh

[modern pebble]

yeah

shit you might hit leg

[tepid drum]

i never ever bother with it

[modern pebble]

i was gonna say y tf u aiming at legs

but

[whole furnace]

Dunno I still just trade with a lot of people.
Just like, it is fair lol.

[modern pebble]

i have less trades where I obviously shot the dude a minute ago

[hasty wharf]

it's also impossible with 99% of the weapons roster. There are only... 4 weapons that oneshot leg? and all the others are multiple damage components or a delayed kill (lance explosion)

[modern pebble]

like, way less

[desert acorn]

I'm sure it is. We were talking about the bow, one-shotting to the leg.

So it was a relevant thing to say "The bow can't one-shot to the leg."

[hasty wharf]

Hundred hands is not some weird exception to the bow's balancing state, that is THE standard, like fast fingers is to single shots.

[tepid drum]

what 4?

[modern pebble]

it’s also cheaper than shit like iron eye

[desert acorn]

Terminus is bottom tier. Unless it's top tier.

[turbid perch]

so glad me springfield is only 38 bucks

[modern pebble]

that you need for other weapons

[hasty wharf]

shotbolt, explosive crossbow, and lance harpoons (plus bomb launcher i suppose, but same ammo). And bow, of course. so 5, i guess?

[modern pebble]

not trying to be mean but yoh as a player type are incomprehensible to me

so cheap

[whole furnace]

Eh even without HH the bow can deal 143 damage to the leg, so depending on where you are on the tick, that is basically OHK bc you die on the next proc of bleed.

[desert acorn]

Shotbolt is wonderful. But crossbow RoF is awful.

[hasty wharf]

Shredder can't leg onetap, it does 131dmg and no longer penetrates

[modern pebble]

bolt thrower makes it fine

[desert acorn]

"fine."

Still slow as hell

[hasty wharf]

unless there's some weird bug with bouncing where you can doublehit again but my understanding is that it doesnt do that

[desert acorn]

I like Crossbow. RoF is the balancing.

[tepid drum]

the shredder not the nitro

[modern pebble]

yeah it one shots anywhere at any range

[hasty wharf]

Yes, the sawblade launcher. 131dmg. Nitro does 140 to leg

[turbid perch]

hey if money was easyer to get then I wouldent have to run from Hunt IRS, bin building me stash for a while so I dont get mad when I lose money playing with the boys, im down to only 150k right now

[desert acorn]

The drop is nuts. And most people don't use it.,

[tepid drum]

oh you are right I was thinking arms sorry

[modern pebble]

only 150k ?

that’s fucked

[hasty wharf]

It does oneshot arms, up to 14 meters

[tepid drum]

on the shredder?

[desert acorn]

Shredder is best cqc weapon in the game, atm

Except the noise, I would say, which is an adjustment.

[tepid drum]

i don't agree with that

[turbid perch]

solo stealing bountys on wildhunt weekends tripple team, very profitable

or was, do they still do those?

[tepid drum]

ck is still better

[desert acorn]

4 shots for cnk, right?

[tepid drum]

i don't think the shredder is better than a bow

[desert acorn]

Shorter range

[tepid drum]

bow has 17 shots lol

[modern pebble]

bro how much money would it take for u to run real shit

[hasty wharf]

The crown is 5 shot magazine, shorty crown is 4

[tepid drum]

correct

[desert acorn]

Ah. I don't use them.

Must be thinking of the cyclone

Don't use that either

[modern pebble]

be real with me justOG what’s ur kd

i remember u telling me ur like 1* n shit

[tepid drum]

The Shredder is good but it's not remotely OP or anything

[turbid perch]

I still do when I play with the boys, but ya know solo you dont need as much, one weak regen shot, no guns, no med pack shank and mabye a throwing spear, so I can steal valuable guns I find

[desert acorn]

I'm not 1*. I do have a thousand hours.

No idea what my kd is. It was .23 for the first 3 months I played, and much higher now.

[tepid drum]

i really love the noise mechanic for the shredder

[modern pebble]

but literally why have such a ratty mindset with fuckin 150k

[tepid drum]

it is one of my favourite things about it, as well as the crank

[desert acorn]

Me too. It balances the crazy RoF, unlimited ammo, and ohk range

[tepid drum]

the ammo is very limited without blademancer in the game

[desert acorn]

So what you're saying is the ammo isn't presently limited

[turbid perch]

with the boys you want more stuff, 90 dolla traps, beetle's choke bombs, it aint cheap

[tepid drum]

i wouldn't say that

[modern pebble]

you got 150k you can afford to bring real loadouts for both

[turbid perch]

solo you can go without alot

[tepid drum]

you don't always have blademancer

[desert acorn]

I don't get the shredder without it.

[tepid drum]

even with blademancer

blades will disappear

[desert acorn]

true

[tepid drum]

they will just fly away to another country

[turbid perch]

nah, quick way to end up broke.

[modern pebble]

unless your success rate is absolutely catastrophic there’s no reasonable way for you to run out of money with 150k

[tepid drum]

it's not recoverable in the same way as the bow

[turbid perch]

when I play solo I make money, with the boys I lose more, just how it is

[tepid drum]

i have to be very mindful about whether I'm willing to take a shot or not because if it's bad the blade will just leave

and 12 shots is barely anything

[modern pebble]

Arguably the majority of ppl who know how to play this game run real loadouts and don’t go broke

[tepid drum]

price truly doesn't matter

[desert acorn]

Definitely.

[turbid perch]

sure, you could go full gills with mosen thats 700 by itself, but you can still do good work with 38 dolla rifle and gumpion, also throwing spear

[desert acorn]

I play solo to just kinda visit the Bayou. I play with friends for fun, solo for relaxation. punctuated by extreme stress.

[tepid drum]

the ROF isn't that crazy either tbh

[desert acorn]

I'll wander slowly collecting money if I get a server wipe solo.

[modern pebble]

i doubt you’re doing anything besides ratting with a single shot rifle and melee secondary

[tepid drum]

it is slower than the bow

[turbid perch]

if you dont bring guns and just a spear and a shank, you can steal very expensive guns and dip, boom profit, dolt pistol and nice kreg, lke 1000= worth of guns

[desert acorn]

3 shots kills a meathead silently. You can kill a trio before they know what's going on.

[modern pebble]

yeah I give up

[desert acorn]

At full power.

[modern pebble]

ill never understand it

[tepid drum]

that's what i meant

[desert acorn]

That's a very inaccurate claim

A fully drawn bow and shredder have same RoF?

[hasty wharf]

They're probably not too far off tbh

[turbid perch]

one bounty split 2-3 ways is ok, but with me spear and not brinnig guns I can bag 600-1000+ worth of guns and dip for later use

[tepid drum]

it's pretty close, maybe not with hundred hands

Hundred hands makes it slower

And the bow is $57 and doesn't make noise or need to be cranked

[hasty wharf]

It still charges at the same rate, it just lets you continue charging it

[desert acorn]

Only cheap top tier weapons are bow and xbow, I think.

[tepid drum]

Ok yeah but you understand what I meant

[hasty wharf]

yeah. what's the cycle time on shredder now?

[modern pebble]

crossbow is still like 160

[tepid drum]

48 in game

But I don't know how that is calculated

[desert acorn]

And how many other weapons do you have to stop moving to fire?

[modern pebble]

cause who the fuck is running standard bolts

[hasty wharf]

The cycle time, not the RoF

[tepid drum]

You are aware that the bow has 0 movement penalties right

[tepid drum]

0.35, but that 0% accounts for the crank

[hasty wharf]

why would you stop moving to fire it

[modern pebble]

and is fully hip fire accurate lol

[turbid perch]

wowza

[hasty wharf]

oh yeah thats definitely wrong then

[desert acorn]

wait... you guys think you move full speed while drawing the bow?

[tepid drum]

Yes which the shredder isn't. It is still good, but it is NOT the bow

[tepid drum]

I know you do

I would literally bet $500 right now

[modern pebble]

you got $500 ?

[tepid drum]

It is placebo that people think it has a movement penalty

[desert acorn]

You can't run while drawing the bow

[tepid drum]

That is not what you said

At all

[desert acorn]

Shoosh

[tepid drum]

👍

[hasty wharf]

"have to stop moving to fire" "move at full speed while drawing" stop =/= not moving at a full sprint

[modern pebble]

you can’t move with a bow

[tepid drum]

you can't aim ANY gun while sprinting

[modern pebble]

bro is using an Elden ring greatbow

[tepid drum]

real shit

[turbid perch]

#media message example of grofet

[tepid drum]

i would say maybe 1.8 seconds from memory

i will time it in a minute

[hasty wharf]

probably not quite that long tbh

[tepid drum]

it's probably like 1.2-1.5 actually

yeah

[modern pebble]

Oh ur on console

[desert acorn]

At point blank range, it is possible to kill multiple hunters faster with the bow than the shredder, if you get the pull just right.

[hasty wharf]

yeah i'd bet around a second and a half

[desert acorn]

At anything beyond point blank, it is not

[modern pebble]

huh

[turbid perch]

no, PC just use controller, like the footwork more.

[desert acorn]

YLM said bow is faster RoF

[modern pebble]

are you 1* or something

[desert acorn]

I just tested it in the shooting range

[turbid perch]

1?

[modern pebble]

star

[turbid perch]

4

[desert acorn]

You keep asking people for their mmr, and their kd

[modern pebble]

that’s insane

[turbid perch]

just play carful, solo then mad dash, grab some guns and dip.

[tepid drum]

9.0 seconds from full to empty assuming you are already cranked

so 1.5

[modern pebble]

but legit what is the point

using your time to get a couple shitty guns

You could just use actual loadouts and win

You’d literally be making more money

[desert acorn]

If you win.

[turbid perch]

money, guns to use for later with the boys. the guns can be worth alot, mozen with doltch is 800+ by itself

[desert acorn]

Winning is not a guarantee

Even the best get beat

[turbid perch]

its not as fast.

[desert acorn]

And some of us are better with weapons that ain't as good.

[modern pebble]

it’s not a guarantee but a certain w/l ratio has to happen unless you are really bad i guess

[modern pebble]

considering the extra money it’s faster

[desert acorn]

A lot of people have a great W/L ratio, but bad kd

The winning conditions of the Bayou aren't set

When I was learning gunplay, I conga-lined to my death in clash

[turbid perch]

nah, sneak up on a team, throw a spear in one of em grab its expenisve guns and dip=more profet then a bounty or two with so much less hastle.

[remote moss]

and a lot of people dont even die in most fights, they just get bodycamped and gain 3 to 8 deaths from rat gameplay

[modern pebble]

that doesn’t matter im talking about making money and surviving is the greatest condition for that

[desert acorn]

indeed

[mystic mulch]

Some people aren't out there to kill everyone in a lobby.

[modern pebble]

but this shit is legit lame

[mystic mulch]

And?

[desert acorn]

I play solo, so I favor quiet weapons.

[modern pebble]

it ain’t profit than two bounties i can assure you

especially when you’re grabbing a fuckin Winnie c and a hand crossbow

[turbid perch]

your right but that takes Way more time.

and much more dangerous

[modern pebble]

I’ll just never understand what aspect of that is supposed to be fun I guess

[turbid perch]

very rarly loose one of my gun napper hunters

[desert acorn]

I don't use silencers, because my aim is crap, so I use ohk. Bow/Crossbow, and katana, is my current favored loadout.

[tidal shadow]

Classic

[desert acorn]

Every weapon is meta, if your opponent doesn't know you're there.

[turbid perch]

the throwing spear is goat, lost count how many guns I steal with a good O'l spear toss

[desert acorn]

Of course, if you're not actually invisible, thinking you're invisible gets you killed 100% of the time. It's a risk/reward tradeoff.

[hasty wharf]

I wish I liked the spear more because it seems super funny to use in pvp but its too good of a pve tool for me to stomach ever taking

[desert acorn]

Throwing spear is a great weapon. I throw knives irl, so I use them. All thrown weapons are a ohk up to a certain range.

[modern pebble]

the conversations here bro

[hasty wharf]

No, they're a ohk as far as you can throw them to any hitbox they can oneshot. They have zero damage falloff over range. (at least, knives/axes/spear. not tomahawked world weapons)

[modern pebble]

we got a dude stealing hand crossbows to sell them and another dude that uses bow but loses to derringer

this is incredible

[tepid drum]

yes they 1 shot period

so do thrown shovels and shit now

[turbid perch]

not to sell, use later, cant sell.

[modern pebble]

if throwing knife didn’t have a slight delay to fire it would be better than shotguns lowkey

[remote moss]

surefoot throwing weapons is better than pennyshot derringer

[modern pebble]

really saved your 30 dollars

[hasty wharf]

actually tomahawked world weapons might just flat out 1 shot at infinite range now too idk. I know they got crazy juiced but idk if they just removed the falloff entirely

i know some of them dont oneshot to some limbs

[turbid perch]

it adds up, you ignored the 250+ dolla rifle

and his pocket change

[desert acorn]

nice

[modern pebble]

pretty sure that was a Winnie carbine no ?

you saved like 90 dollars

and that shit must’ve taken like 10 minutes

[desert acorn]

I'm gonna have to do throwing knife only runs, until I can wiped trios

[modern pebble]

In 10 minutes i can make 3k wiping a bounty clash

[tepid drum]

i only steal guns that are really expensive or expensive and something i use

like i steal drillings

[turbid perch]

its gotten to the point I can hear more expensive guns, and go for them, its quick. ya 6-10 minutes

[desert acorn]

Instead, I end up picking up a rifle or shotgun that I find. I always kinda panic on those runs.

[tepid drum]

but never a mosin

[turbid perch]

oh bro I got like 15 of them

[hasty wharf]

do you actually end up using them at some point, or no?

[modern pebble]

yeah but in 10 minutes you could do a lot

like wipe a clash lobby

[turbid perch]

ya, when I play with the boys I'll pull from the stash.

[tepid drum]

i have over 40 dolches

[desert acorn]

There are so many viable playstyles in this game. By viable, I mean viable... not necessarily equally effective overall.

[turbid perch]

problem with clash lobby is to many free hunters and cheap guns. still like clash

[remote moss]

the most viable is holding angles with shredder nitro

at a 54m one tap, youre not losing that peek unless you get unlucky

[modern pebble]

it doesn’t matter bro you are making multiple thousands of dollars

that’s more than grabbing shitass guns

[desert acorn]

I've played Nitro twice ever. Got multiple kills each match

Hipfire... it's like shotgun, except it makes you deaf and has longer range.

[turbid perch]

eh, it not as consistant, me solo runs in big map get me Way more.

[turbid perch]

every one I nap is another one I wont have to buy

[tepid drum]

i would rather a springfield with no traits and regular ammo than a nitro