hunt-general

[fresh turret]

dds?

I didn’t know it was good with fanning. Might try that

[whole furnace]

Its okay with fanning, but I would say other guns can fan better

[supple agate]

thnx

[whole furnace]

That said, running Nagant with HV gives you a decent head clicker gun with somewhat low recoil.

[dawn zinc]

Is it worth taking nagant over officer though?

[whole furnace]

Again, the recoil is very low

[modest vector]

done all i need to do and it did not finish any tips?

[whole furnace]

Currently bugged :)

[dawn zinc]

I'm terrible at comparing weapons because I've been using officer a lot recently and still couldn't say if the nagant recoil is that much better from this clip

[fresh turret]

Sorry I’m having my head trying to figure out what dds could be

[modest vector]

awesome crybug gotta love them

[desert acorn]

dumdums. 🙂

[fresh turret]

Thanks!

[whole furnace]

No worries, Officer also don't really have that much bad of a recoil, tho it can be felt somewhat with HV.
Again, good players will just 100% utilize Officer, but if you wanna be cheap that is something the Nagant can do over other guns.

[desert acorn]

np. Nagant aren't bad. I use them as dualies... close-ranged they're nice. I think Rexnor did a vid on them recently. He was playing with Emaiza, and he made excellent use of them.

[deep snow]

Take the officer

[fresh turret]

Eh those pistols aren’t my style. I was just curious because the nagant seems SO underpowered.

[wanton condor]

absolutley dominated with the ranger talon last night, its becoming one of my favorites

[deep snow]

yeah yeah just spam

[wanton condor]

i put a clip in #media

[whole furnace]

It is kinda known as the worst pistol.

[glacial pawn]

how do i report aa cheater ?

[prime lake]

This game is soooo addictive once you get over the newbie player obstacles

[short halo]

#customer-support

[daring marlin]

what's the source of this graph?

[whole mist]

from a dev update earlier last year I believe

[modest vector]

so really nothing i can do to get my krampus skin? I just have to wait for any update? I have been looking forward to unlocking this skin since it came out

[short halo]

Did you buy the story challenge?

[wicked fox]

I’m looking forward to the next Lunar New Year hunter. 🧧

[modest vector]

yes of course why would i be asking about getting a skin I didnt buy pass for?

[dawn zinc]

Well why can't you get the skin?

[remote moss]

oh yeah what happened to the hunter with the cool talisman on his face

[modest vector]

cause crybug cant push a fully working update

[dawn zinc]

What's preventing you getting it? Plenty of people have the skin

[short halo]

And as long as you have the story pass you have unlimited time to complete it

[modest vector]

THE GAME WONT GIVE IT TO ME LOOK HERE

[remote moss]

mans got trolled

[short halo]

Put in a ticket at #customer-support

[wicked fox]

Be nicer to the game and it will be unlocked. 🔓

[remote moss]

hm. there was the one dog trainer and head taker, might be more hunters that are armored up

very nice look in a clothing based game

[dawn zinc]

Umpires bane is sort of wearing armour I suppose

[modest vector]

Gotta be honest kind of tired of giving crybug money how the hell is this an issue with the pass being out for like a month plus now they are one of the worst development teams ever throw back to garden of the witch with no garden or witch

[remote moss]

dont mention that cursed name

someones gonna post another bat video with him because of you

[modest vector]

Good

[dawn zinc]

Should be pretty easily resolved if you just contact the support team instead of complaining about it

[modest vector]

Already contacted support so going to do both cause this company sucks balls

[modest vector]

Any other genius ideas?

[remote moss]

when i get angry, i make sure to find a target

in this case, id play hunt with terminus dragons breath levering and hand crossbow dragons bolt

dragons bolt is the closest thing to free dmg and having strong utility atm. flame rifle wishes it was as easy to use as dragons bolt

one of the most abusive and easy to land pieces of shit in the game currently

but people just kinda forgot it exist

maybe its scarce though, havent checked

[dawn zinc]

Dragons bolt isn't scarce

It feels way less reliable than it used to be for me though

[remote moss]

maybe they tuned the drop on it? weird

[modest vector]

More just amazed that the response was did you buy the pass and complete it as if I just expected to get the skin

[remote moss]

it aint anything personal, if youve seen the kind of questions here, you start assuming the worst

[dawn zinc]

I dunno. Always feels like they land right on or next to a hunter but do nothing

[remote moss]

we're hunt players, too jaded to be nice anymore

[autumn kite]

Add laser guns

[short halo]

What do you think Bruja means?

[tidal haven]

😅

[modest vector]

Doesn’t it mean witch or at least a close word in Spanish or something I don’t know

[short halo]

It does. and She was a reward during the Garden of the Witch

[modest vector]

cool so i have it cause i played around then

[tidal haven]

Some compounds have gardens too 🙈

[remote moss]

ugly ones

[modest vector]

the fact you are trying to make a case for garden of the witch one of the worst hunt updates i vote to have you removed as a mod!!!!!!!!!

[short halo]

[tidal haven]

[short halo]

[whole mist]

[sour spear]

We love to see a community clean-up effort.

[buoyant carbon]

hii

[umbral ruin]

[storm pebble]

Day 500 of searching for a wildland (got my 15th homestead)

[tranquil sail]

https://tenor.com/view/wingsofredemption-look-here-look-listen-gif-9428248863790894739

[dawn zinc]

Found one yesterday and the same tower had dumdum ammo

My teammate had a centennial too so we ran cenny dumdum and wildland dumdum

[raven totem]

What was wrong with garden of the witch?

[mortal cove]

I mean, I wouldn‘t complain, the Homestead is insanely good

[dawn zinc]

Gunrunner

[storm pebble]

True

[mortal cove]

I pray Crytek never adds a long ammo wild weapon

Imagine a gun that is to the Mosin what the Wildlands is for the Centennial

[dawn zinc]

Scarce long ammo weapon that does 160 damage

[storm pebble]

Ill just end myself atp

[mortal cove]

With a barrel magazine so it can pack 15 boolet

[jaunty patio]

Scarce Sparks that does 149 damage out to 60m instead of 40

and is faster reload

[storm pebble]

I mean we could get like a long ammo wild gun thats just a sparks but with more velocity/damage range and less drop

[mild flower]

Aperture

[mortal cove]

Considering the Sparks manages to be a top tier gun just because of it‘s 149 dmg stat + long ammo pen / drop Idk chief

[storm pebble]

Hell yeah

[storm pebble]

poison ammo is so annoying

[mild flower]

Idk about top tier but it is long ammo

In the worse half of long ammo though imo

[mortal cove]

I would never trade it‘s penetration power for poison

[dawn zinc]

I rarely touch long ammo and playing Sparks for a week or so felt like switching on easy mode

[half ruin]

just wait until you try the mosin

[storm pebble]

Spitzer users will not make it past the pearly gates

[mortal cove]

Nah, Sparks has remained a high tier gun for a long time

[dawn zinc]

I played Mosin a lot when I first started the game. Not a fan

[mild flower]

Yeah of course, it's long ammo

[storm pebble]

I mean its good with incindiary lowk

[mild flower]

Long ammo kinda can't be bad

[mortal cove]

Mako:

[storm pebble]

highkey overrated asf
Mako is my fav long ammo gun

[mortal cove]

[mild flower]

Even mako is a good gun. It's just overshadowed by the more terribly overpowered long ammo options.

But mako is still long ammo

Still really strong

[dawn zinc]

I had a couple good games with Mako same time I played Sparks. Don't get all the hate for that gun, it's pretty fun to play

[mortal cove]

Idk, I think the Mako sucks

[storm pebble]

Mako should get a slightly faster rechamber speed I think

[mortal cove]

It‘s very janky to handle

I prefer the sleeker Centennial or normal Winfield

[mild flower]

That's just personal preference for gun feel

[mortal cove]

Centennial HV is also

[mild flower]

Yeah cent and Winfield have always been good picks

[mortal cove]

Especially the Wildlands HV

[storm pebble]

Brethier is also just a solid long ammo gun, although I wouldnt use that thing without bullet grubber

[mortal cove]

Wildlands feels like going back to the early early access Winfield

[mild flower]

Berthier is one of the only long ammo bolt actions that doesn't need bullet grubber to save ammo on partial reloads, you can save your ammo by doing the ammo switch tech

Edited cause nothing needs bullet grubber but it can be convenient*

[storm pebble]

That takes actual YEARS to finish

[mild flower]

Ig if you find yourself partial reloading in combat often

[storm pebble]

I always reload when im not actively engaging that very second
Being topped up can be life or death at times

[mild flower]

Solo?

[storm pebble]

Yeah

[mild flower]

Fair enough then

No teammates to cover you if you're low on ammo

[storm pebble]

Exactly

[mild flower]

You need all 3 shots for a team wipe

[dawn zinc]

Even after years of Hunt being my main fps game, I cant get out of the habit of reloading every single chance I get

[storm pebble]

Plus if you are using regen stims you should be doing other stuff while healing anyways

[dawn zinc]

Weapons that require bulletgrubber are terrible for me

[storm pebble]

Hence why I love the Mako

[mild flower]

There is no weapon in the game that requires bullet grubber

[storm pebble]

also does anyone even use the Martini Henry? I havent seen that thing in forever

[mild flower]

Me :D
It is very fun

[storm pebble]

It is, but the sparks costs legit 8 dollars more and.... its the sparks

[mild flower]

Martini isn't a worse sparks even though that's a very common thing people say

It's better in compound fights unless you're doing a meme Loadout like sparks + hand xbow chokes

[storm pebble]

It does like 130 damage right? Thats still very solid

[mild flower]

No it's like 146

[storm pebble]

Damn

[mortal cove]

The issue with the Henry is MV

[storm pebble]

And it does have explosive ammo, I guess thats an upside too

[mortal cove]

It‘s like 3/5ths the MV of the Sparks

[dawn zinc]

I used to like taking martini henry explosive for compound breaching

[storm pebble]

I lowk love using Poltergeist so this isnt too useful for me personally

[dawn zinc]

Not as useful once you leave 4* though

[storm pebble]

Im at 6 stars

[mild flower]

It reloads faster, has more reserves and doesn't have a giant hammer obscuring your sight picture. At the cost of damage (only comes into play at range) and velocity (also range)
So it's usually an upgrade for compound fights but usually not as good for long ranged more passive playstyles

Or for 1 damage meme combos

[dawn zinc]

I don't find as many teams sitting with all the windows and doors closed & trapped

[storm pebble]

my fav thing so far was using Polter, opening a window, enemy comes to check it, then I snipe them with the maynard

Very fun and decently useful

[mild flower]

I take explosive on the Martini to secure kills and clear corners

Clearing corners is a big thing people underestimate

[dawn zinc]

Does explosive ammo detonate a dynamite that is cooking in someones hand?

[storm pebble]

I run default/incendiary because then I have 2 ammo pools and burn damage is always useful

[mild flower]

Id say yes cause I think it happened to me but they might have thrown it a millisecond before I shot

[storm pebble]

I remember when a I threw a sticky and someone exploded the sticky as I threw it

[dawn zinc]

I don't think it used to but with the changes to how explosives react to fire and stuff, might have changed

[mild flower]

Plus hit them once with the incen and you'll one shot them if you hit again even if they heal

I use fmj on Martini though because you can do 125+ damage through walls to the body. So body shot ohks on injured hunters missing a bar. @storm pebble

[storm pebble]

Hm, thats pretty good too

I should try that

Though I usually just go for a Uppercut/Haymaker with FMJ if I need someone to shoot through walls

[mild flower]

Yeah those are usually better if you know they're full HP seeing as it's still ohk head two tap body

Although one body shot won't leave them low for as long

[storm pebble]

also yesterday I thought a fun loadout would be the homestead with dragons breath and the flame rifle
Burn EVERYTHING and you still have a shotty that can 1 tap at close range

or just a romero with buck/dragon cause thats affordable

[mild flower]

Sounds fun might try

I like db

[sick bramble]

FMJ is goated on them

[storm pebble]

Indeed, and with Haymaker you still have a shotgun too

I dont even go without a shotgun anymore, they are just so useful for actually assaulting the enemies instead of just having a napoleotic war shootout

[mild flower]

Not bringing a shotgun rn feels like throwing

[storm pebble]

Especially in 6 star

also I havent seen anybody use a bow in my 6 star lobbies so far

[dawn zinc]

I miss when the majority of fights were wacky wild west shootouts across compounds

[sick bramble]

im 5 stars and i rarely see bows too

that's good fuck bows

[dawn zinc]

Most fights are squeezed into a single building these days

And usually boil down to last man standing in a flurry of shotgun trades

[sick bramble]

what caused this though

[mild flower]

Lots of changes, but primarily the shotgun buffs I think

[dawn zinc]

Not sure. I noticed a shift around the time clash/new engine released

[left orbit]

not if you’re locked in for 400m/s like me

i do more headshots with martini than lebel, and i play more lebel than martini lol

[dawn zinc]

People got a lot of practice defending a banish building with shotguns because of clash

And the fact shotguns got buffed doesn't help

[sick bramble]

yeah i think it's that too

[left orbit]

debuff shotguns ye

debuff bow as well (and i’m a bow user…)

i never understood why they buffed them

[mild flower]

Huge shotgun buffs
Regen shot buff and recov shot force people to charge and rush in after they get a hit
Also recov shot makes it less risky to have some teammates die for the sake of winning the fight overall with a push

[dawn zinc]

Obviously everyone has their own preference. I just really love mid range compound shootouts

[mild flower]

There's a reason mid range is the default in most games

[dawn zinc]

Those mid range shootouts only got worse over time because of new additions too which probably leads to more cqc shootouts

Recovery shots make mid range a ballache

[mild flower]

And regen shot

[dawn zinc]

So you're more incentivised to just get close and get the fight over with one way or another

Be it dying to a shotgun or killing them with a shotgun

[remote moss]

well

just mid range and body camp

you dont have to do anything

damn what are these guys doing lol. mans trying to res me after a team done got me

[left orbit]

i’ve always fought mid range even before buffs cuz beyond 50-60 meters i just can’t hit anything LUL

for me the game has been the same since i started playing it because of this 😂

[coarse moss]

does anyone else getting killed by big dynamite from behind a concrete wall?

happened twice to me now. annoying

[left orbit]

dynamites can be a bit unpredictable. try to stay away as much as possible

don’t do like my teammate yesterday that went sideways instead of coming back to me after he rush towards ennemy right after i ignite my dyna lul

[pulsar vortex]

Avto dawg

[normal kayak]

nah

the wildland is a complete buff from centennial avto actually has drawbacks

shoot avto once suddenly cant hear shit
have to bring mad ammo because youre using 3 bullets every shot

its like the only thing in the game with difficult recoil

[pulsar vortex]

those aren't drawbacks

[normal kayak]

not being able to hear isnt a drawback

[pulsar vortex]

already bringing 2 ammo boxes with mosin anyways

[normal kayak]

why the fuck do you have 2 ammo boxes with the mosin

[pulsar vortex]

and you're bursting anyways which won't fully deafen

[normal kayak]

brother what are you killing with your mosin

[pulsar vortex]

enoug ammo to kill the entire lobby?

[normal kayak]

are you like a solo that only bodyshots

ive got plenty of lobby wipes and if i am bringing an ammo box i bring 1

[pulsar vortex]

it's spitzer obviously

[normal kayak]

how much spitzer you get with mosin

[pulsar vortex]

9

[normal kayak]

plenty

[pulsar vortex]

clueless

[remote moss]

on the bright side, you just have to drag down to the middle right leg and its killing in one burst up to like 20m

[normal kayak]

SURELY you can find ammo bro

[remote moss]

its rng so its a pain to control at longer ranges but its still consistent to compete vs shotguns

[normal kayak]

especially with circus going rn

[pulsar vortex]

more like 60m

[remote moss]

not in one burst

[pulsar vortex]

yes in one burst

[remote moss]

im not sure about crouched accuracy, maybe

nah rngs too high

you just got severely unlucky

[mild flower]

-Bad sights
-Awful ammo econ
-Actually meaningful recoil
-Deafening yourself
-Hipfire accuracy
-Ammo types
-Has to reload longer for the same amount of shots(bursts)

avto basically forces you to bring a long ammo muling secondary

drumbrez or sparps

sometimes a haymaker

[remote moss]

drumbrez meta makes it meta to bring avtomat as the backup to drumbrez which is a normal rifle

bro i thought my teammate was the cyclone player but it was just a cyclone player on the flank missing every shot on my teammate standing still

lmao

then fucker kills me

[dim ibex]

i always kill avto with bow in two star

buff it type beat

[left orbit]

just crouch and compensate for the recoil

ez wins

[steep narwhal]

^

[remote moss]

crouching only boosts first shot accuracy if you want more consistency at range

[whole girder]

i dont see avto in my 2 star lobbies avto is such a troll weapon man

[left orbit]

and compensate for the recoil

[dim ibex]

its just a meme weapon ask my 1 star friend loool

[left orbit]

the three bullets will go in the hunter

repeat

[whole girder]

yea bro i always play avto with baseball bat is so fun!

[dim ibex]

nice meme bro, my 1 star friend killed avto with bomb lance

[whole girder]

avto for long range baseball bat for ultra close range

[dim ibex]

i think its bad loooool

[whole girder]

looooool

[dim ibex]

bomb lance needs nerf

[whole girder]

buff avto honestly

[remote moss]

lies

buff avtos one burst range to 40m by giving it easier to control recoil

instead of your avto one burst being dictated completely by rng throwing your mouse down left or down right

lol

[steep narwhal]

for sure

[left orbit]

ok bro. tell me how i downed 9 hunters with just avto doing just that.

[whole girder]

avto is so easy man just look at the enemy's feet and it goes up to his head

[left orbit]

that’s prolly working well too

[remote moss]

cheats

[left orbit]

i hate to say this but

[remote moss]

oh yeah i should test that, im too used to aiming center mass

[left orbit]

you have a permanent skill issue diagnosed

[steep narwhal]

bro has cheat in his name

[remote moss]

fr

ragebait failed

[whole girder]

wait who's ragebaiting who

[left orbit]

i added that because people talked about not taking Death Cheat

but i shall rename to something related to avto

here we go

[urban steppe]

its so over for whoever opens this door LOL

the conc wire will detonate the lantern

triggering the 2 barrels

[remote moss]

nah, aiming low with avto just results in first shot losing consistency. just aim center mass and drag down, easy 20m one bursts

[remote moss]

toxic

[urban steppe]

😼

[latent geyser]

It's hard to believe there was a time when Necromancer wasn't a burn trait.

[mild flower]

How long is avto burst compared to a clown and kringe two tap

[remote moss]

god im loving the one bursts on avto. i gave up on them a long time ago when they added the rng recoil to compensate for macro shitters. it was so easy you didnt even need a macro but noooo some unskilled vet decided to fuck with us

[remote moss]

better days, maybe

[whole girder]

wdym bro just aim at feet up until 60 meters!

[remote moss]

slug two taps like 41m on upper chest, preferably at 30m so you dont get fucked by deviation

[mild flower]

Oh I meant time wise

In the 4th dimension how long

[remote moss]

the fuck is the 4th dimension

[mild flower]

Time I think

So like how long does it take with avto compared to cnk two tap

[remote moss]

who knows

its like, ck two tap range is same as avto two tap range practically

[lofty sinew]

avto gonna be quicker second shot easy surely

[random nimbus]

Slug deviation is pretty gross

I tested it some time back and it's infuriating, especially on the 2 slots

[pulsar vortex]

it shouldn't even be a two tap at 30m

[random nimbus]

Crown slugs used to two tap at 45m to the upper torso

Not sure what it is now

[pulsar vortex]

again, avto can consistently one burst up to 60m

[remote moss]

hes lying btw

[pulsar vortex]

I don't know what else to say except skill issue

[remote moss]

probs 41m. the deviation limits guaranteed consistency at 30m

[remote moss]

go one burst at 60m a couple of times and send pic and ill glaze u, fr

[random nimbus]

This was prior to deviation that I tested that

[remote moss]

i can stretch the one burst to about 30m but not consistently, my fps isnt good enough to eye it properly.

[random nimbus]

When I tested deviation, I started to wonder if I was just missing because holy moly it got bad

I hate deviation as a concept in this game

Drop is one thing because it seems to be pretty consistent. Deviation is just RNG

[remote moss]

its a really nice balancing mechanic, its just unintuitive

[random nimbus]

It's a horrible balancing mechanic

[normal kayak]

my teammate has a steam profile link in their bio which leads to an account with a similar pfp and a ban on record

hm

[random nimbus]

Quite possibly the worst you can implement. It adds RNG to ADS

[remote moss]

forcing a player to aim center mass for the best results is pretty nice

[random nimbus]

And they can still miss

[remote moss]

it goes against the consistency argument you were talking about

[random nimbus]

Because the bullet deviation is out of their control

Inconsistencies because of RNG are not a good thing when you ADS

[remote moss]

i did just test it, its consistent headshots at 30m when aiming center mass with room for error. thats even with two slot sluggies too

[random nimbus]

Hip fire and dualies are one thing because they're designed that way

Adding deviation to someone that aimed properly is introducing RNG where it has no business

You can lose because the game decided your shot just misses because it feels like it

[remote moss]

its a strong artificial way to balance the effective distance of a weapon, instead of just suddenly giving it jank dropoff numbers

you can go into training range, aim at head, and it lands 100% of the time at 30m. thats it, 30m is the limit

yeah it balances it so slugs suddenly suck as balls at 40m and above

[random nimbus]

That makes it a bad balancing tool

If you have to introduce RNG to balance something, you can't balance properly

[remote moss]

i mean

[random nimbus]

The whole point of slugs is to be used at range

And to reduce spread RNG

Now it has deviation RNG

Maybe don't let them two tap at 45m vs making them just miss at that range

And give them some pen damage back

[remote moss]

well, center mass 45m is guaranteed to land

it just hits limbs so the kill potential and damage is rough

[random nimbus]

It was not in my testing

At 25m they were deviating

[remote moss]

wait, i wonder if its affected by the gun

i was in range just a few minutes ago

it was rival and rival handcannon

[random nimbus]

And that's the problem in itself. The fact that nobody knows when exact the deviation even is

It just decides NOW and you better hope you didn't aim that far

[remote moss]

yeah, unintuitive as shit

[random nimbus]

More like poorly designed

There's no way to account for deviation, so it's not unintuitive

You can't explain or train yourself to account for it. It's RNG

[remote moss]

you... can though? its just limited to training range

[random nimbus]

Not when you don't know when the deviation is going to kick in or how badly

That makes it RNG

[remote moss]

i feel like im fundamentally missing something youre saying here

its unintuitive because the only way to learn the actual distance is through manual labor in training range because they dont give us a stat for it

its completely consistent in how it functions?

[dim ibex]

its not consistent

its random

[remote moss]

its consistent in that you dont have to worry about it at 30m, which is probably where it starts to drop off

just aim normally up to that range

[random nimbus]

Unintuitive describes something not easily understood or grasped by instinct, requiring explanation or training. You cannot train your bullet to hit where you want when it starts deviating. It goes where the game decides

Nobody knows where it starts deviating, or how strong the deviation cone even is.

[remote moss]

ok, learning to compensate for the deviation is unintuitive, but its still just 30m. while the deviation itself is random, there

[random nimbus]

That's honestly the best way to describe deviation is that it turns your ADS line into a cone, and you don't know where that cone starts or how wide it gets

It's tighter spread dualies as ADS

[remote moss]

so like, minute of angle regular bullets

lol

[random nimbus]

Except you can't account for it like you could when sighting in a scope

[remote moss]

AHA

[random nimbus]

If every gun had this concept, it'd be one thing

[remote moss]

I CAN FINALLY TELL YOU SOMETHING

wait no i cant

[distant sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/nailsandny-gif-26264603

[random nimbus]

You cannot account for the game deciding "Ooop it flew off the side now"

[remote moss]

I knew you were coming

You can't beat me

[random nimbus]

"Too bad so sad"

[distant sentinel]

knowing is only half the battle

[upbeat lark]

Asian player

[remote moss]

fuck

[upbeat lark]

Is the game have server issues rn for you guys

[remote moss]

i mean, yeah sorta?

goddamn, im probs just dumb

[upbeat lark]

i can not even walk

[random nimbus]

If the only way you can account for it is to not be at that range, but nobody knows what that range is, then how can you account for it?

And why should that even be a thing in general?

Nobody likes their bullets not going where they aim when they ADS

[remote moss]

manual labor in training range is how you account for it, i g? i dunno when they added deviation but its kinda too bad for sniping heads

[random nimbus]

How do you train for the game deviating less or more at any range?

[remote moss]

limiting the two tap range wouldve been a better call, dont know why they wanted to nerf one of the skill mechanics making shotgun more viable

[remote moss]

so you go into training range. aim center mass. test fire a shit ton of times until theres no deviation making your shots off center enough to miss

[random nimbus]

So that means that, beyond whatever that range is, which was 25m when I tested it, you cannot rely on your bullet hitting where you aim past that point?

[remote moss]

30m, if we're going off what i tested, and mine were for headshots

and yes, you cant. at 35m, i hit 90% of my headshots, but deviation would kick in

[random nimbus]

That makes it RNG

[remote moss]

past that, its RNG, yes

[random nimbus]

And that is a bad balancing mechanic in a shooter when limited to two bullet types vs balancing them by their stats

If every gun dealt with it, fine. I'd still hate it but at least everything plays by the same rules

But slugs and nitro only? Yeah, lazy and poorly designed balancing tool

[remote moss]

and effective

nitro went back to hipfire crutchers or ads holding a fucked angle instead of players just running in the open and one tapping people for free

people got skill issue'd because there was no way for them to learn how to compensate for deviation without the manual labor in training range

compensate for the RNG, whatever you mean

[lofty sinew]

isn't the point of deviation simply that you aren't supposed to be trying to rely on that weapon and ammo combination because it is a balance issue

[random nimbus]

Making bullets disappear at a certain range by bullet type is effective too. Doesn't mean it's a good thing

[lofty sinew]

at that range.

[random nimbus]

Something can be effective and also be stupid to do

[mild flower]

Crazy that they thought it'd be a good idea to balance the shotgun ammo type whats entire purpose is to be versatile at further ranges than buckshot completely inconsistent at said ranges.

While also omegabuffing buckshot

[random nimbus]

It's not a skill issue to lose to RNG when you ADS. That's quite literally the oppsosite of a skill issue because the interaction is out of your hand

[lofty sinew]

the skill is in knowing not to expect reliability at that range

[random nimbus]

That's a stupid concept when you ADS.

[remote moss]

the skill is in knowing at what point your shot will miss while aiming center mass, and not aiming center mass

[mild flower]

Tbf you do lower your chances of RNG screwing you over if you aim more accurately to the middle of your target
But still BS.

[random nimbus]

That's not skill, that's rolling the dice

[remote moss]

no, theres a 100% chance of it landing up to a certain range, it physically can not miss except for human error

[random nimbus]

And what is that range?

[remote moss]

rolling the dice is hoping it lands once deviation starts to be a bitch

[lofty sinew]

they can just make slug damage falloff absolutely abysmal instead I guess. I don't care. it has to be balanced arbitrarily somehow

[remote moss]

ill go check rn

havent used nitro in years

[random nimbus]

Slug two tap range was always kinda nonsense

Part of that balance was the fact it also didn't aimpunch

[mild flower]

That would make it pretty much a worse buckshot
Js give it abysmal drop and velo maybe

Then it's accountable for

[lofty sinew]

well, i already said i don't really care how they do it. But obviously slugs covering both CQC and rifle range is a problem

that is what is being balanced

[random nimbus]

But to make all headshots a kill and then say 'Alright, you can't rely on your shot hitting when you aim at their head' is possibly the dumbest idea you could imagine

[mild flower]

I think it's fine for them to be versatile up to medium range, as long as they have some kind of disadvantage against an actual rifle. Cause that's the whole point of using them over buckshot.

[remote moss]

i mean, its in a good spot rn. 30m is the sweet spot for basically all slugs, and thats more than enough to let shotguns actually take fights in compounds instead of the buckshot one tap range gimmick we have now

[random nimbus]

There's a reason slugs have largely died out in favor of buckshot

Slugs getting the slap treatment while buckshot just gets better

[lofty sinew]

because they have no practical place in the games meta.

[random nimbus]

They do, but Crytek is poor at balancing

They've ALWAYS struggle to get slugs right

And we knew that would probably be the case when we first saw them

[mild flower]

They don't right now BECAUSE crytek sucks at balancing

[random nimbus]

Well, I mean they have a place, but Crytek refuses to actually balance stuff with an idea in mind

[remote moss]

tf, looks like nitro has the same deviation start of 30m

[dim ibex]

yep

[random nimbus]

They just swing the bat and keep beating. Looking at you, HV

[dim ibex]

nitro was hit hard

[mild flower]

It's a rifle 😭

[mild flower]

It also has 0 penetration now

[remote moss]

so you cant really headshot with nitro past 30m. thats not considering the guaranteed bodyshot yet, hold on

[random nimbus]

Nitro torso one taps at 44m and it deviates 14m before that? lol

[dim ibex]

are you saying conversion fmg shouldnt do more dmg thorugh metal than nitro

lol

[mild flower]

Yes 😭

[random nimbus]

Shredder is 54m one tap so that's gonne be even more oof

[dim ibex]

shredder is really strong close quarters

[remote moss]

at center mass, nitro hits upper chest 100% of the time at 41m

nitros killing at 41m, not 44m

[dim ibex]

but if a tiny piece of 4x4 is in the way

gg

[random nimbus]

They must have nerfed the range then

Used to be 44m

[remote moss]

ill check 54m in a sec

yea, its same as slug two tap range for some reason

[random nimbus]

Though shredder was 74m years ago

[lofty sinew]

i think most of the balance problems come from crytek just keeping things that have no place in the balance they're trying to aim for. slugs are in that category. the nitro is also. Revive bolt as well. Is there a way to balance them. Maybe. Is the easiest solution just to straight up remove them? yes.

[mild flower]

Nitro shredder in CQC you may as well just use a rival

[dim ibex]

hmm i play both a lot

[random nimbus]

For revive bolts, the best decision was to remove them absolutely

[dim ibex]

and i agree rival feels better cqc

nitro shredder does have its moments

[mild flower]

Name one advantage it has in cqc

[dim ibex]

you can hold longer angles and still one tap

[mild flower]

Oh different definitions of CQC then

[dim ibex]

you also can hit arms and still kill them with bleed

[random nimbus]

I haven't tested the limb damage change for shredder

[dim ibex]

well i mean anything below 20m i would say is cqc

[random nimbus]

It used to be a free kill at 10m to the arm with bleed

[remote moss]

at 54m, nitro hits upper chest 100% of the time. its deviation is much better than slugs, even if it starts sooner

[dim ibex]

the drop off is horrible

[random nimbus]

I would imagine it probably kills now with the limb damage change

[dim ibex]

but withing 10 your good to let teh bleed do the work

[random nimbus]

The bleed was unstoppable at 10m

[remote moss]

yeah so it works fine. in all the nitros one tap ranges, it will still land and one shot as long as you aim center mass

[random nimbus]

Was like 147 damage with intense bleed, and you could not stop the tick without bloodless

[remote moss]

the deviation kicks in to punish player skill for being imprecise and not aiming upper chest level

[random nimbus]

'Imprecise' when you're talking about being more accurate lol

[remote moss]

yes, if you arent aiming center mass, deviation will fuck you over

in other words, youre rewarding player skill so now players actually need to aim better than usually for results

[lofty sinew]

I would agree all weapons should be repeatably accurate. And if a weapon is too strong if it is, then it is just a poor choice for addition to the game.

[remote moss]

the downside is that its not intuitive to learn to compensate for this RnG

[random nimbus]

Aiming at the head, the more precise location, will potentially miss through RNG. Yeah, good mechanic lol

[whole girder]

do you think avto is "too strong"

[remote moss]

very effective mechanic

[random nimbus]

And very dumb

[mild flower]

They could force your fps cap to 30fps when you equip the mosin. It is still an effective mechanic

[random nimbus]

If you need to get rid of a car, you can drive it into a lake or sell it. Both are effective, one is clearly dumber

[whole girder]

ok bob

[remote moss]

thats not even close to this type of balancing. it punishes you for not aiming center mass, thats it

[mild flower]

Actually maybe they should do this

I wouldn't complain

[remote moss]

a good player would just aim better or acknowledge that their aim blew if they choked it

[lofty sinew]

i think it is an awkward concept for a gun considering the era and the gameplay Hunt showdown seems to aim for and personally would be totally fine with it being removed from the game completely. Too strong? it's oppressive in a good players hands in some situations. but that isn't my beef with it.

[remote moss]

you cant control the rng, so control the player skill aspect of aiming center mass until the deviation makes it impossible to succeed

ez

[random nimbus]

That's the most assbackwards reasoning I've heard in a while

[mild flower]

Ur right I actually wouldn't complain if mosin capped your fps at 30 but I complain about this

[remote moss]

i mean, lets go back to consistency

[random nimbus]

Which RNG is not.

[remote moss]

200mv is within the confines of player skill

600mv is easier, more consistent

can still perform the same with high player skill, fr fr

[random nimbus]

And the nitro is 550ms, iirc, meaning it's designed to also be a decent range performing weapon.

[remote moss]

yes, so you dont have to lead as much for the easy center mass one taps

[random nimbus]

Except it's been butchered by a mechanic called RNG past a certain point

That no other rifle has to deal with

[remote moss]

the only issue with nitro is that quickscoping means you can not see their movement before you shoot. you have to estimate and fire

yes, you now need to aim center mass to compensate for it

or else youll miss, and aiming center mass is within reasonable realms of player skill

[random nimbus]

And if they're beyond center mass kill range?

[remote moss]

theyre already outside one tap kill range

lol

[random nimbus]

Meaning it's a poor balancing mechanic

Every weapon is balanced by headshots always killing.

Saying 'No headshot for you' because you dared to aim past torso one tap range is just laughable XD

[remote moss]

its a great balancing mechanic, nitro went from a crutch weapon into needing more aim to succeed with it

side effect of not being able to headshot

ill take that trade for a one tap at 50m with shredder with relatively low effort, just bad visibility

[random nimbus]

'Needing more aim' when the more accurate shot is now unreliable lol

Backwards logic is backwards

[remote moss]

unreliable because you need to center mass for it to land, yes

[lofty sinew]

i mean the point of guns like the nitro wasn't to need to be standing next to the rhinocerous or whatever you were trying to kill i don't think

[remote moss]

yeah then itd go back to broken nitro days, its better this way unfortunately

some mosin shitter who cant compete even with spitzer just needs to swap to nitro and bam

[random nimbus]

Or you can balance the weapon by its stats vs introducing RNG

[remote moss]

easy one taps

what kinda stat balance are you looking for?

[random nimbus]

Ain't no way you think people jumped to nitro when they struggled with Mosin

[remote moss]

lower the one tap range?

[random nimbus]

One is very clearly easier than the other

And it wasn't the nitro

[remote moss]

are you joking, nitro was the #1 crutch weapon next to explosive crossbow for ease of use

[random nimbus]

....

[remote moss]

you run in the open, one tap someone trying to peek you

[random nimbus]

We live in different games.

[remote moss]

shit, i felt dirty as hell abusing it

thats what i do now with semi auto, its a little harder but its the same idea

[upbeat lark]

Nitro with the devil card is disgusting

[remote moss]

use a strong weapon, position in a way to bait them to peek, then punish

[random nimbus]

You saw the explosive crossbow one in a turquois moon

Mosin is still every match

[remote moss]

yeah its a base level of consistency

and when youre having an off day even with a weapon as consistent as mosin

you swap to the even easier ones

[random nimbus]

And if one isn't very consistent, it's not very good, is it?

The potential strengths of the explosive crossbow were far lower than the Mosin

It was a nuisance more than it was effective

[spark plaza]

amogus

[remote moss]

sure but it was easy to make effective, free damage and making them dead to rifle even in cover

[random nimbus]

Then why was it never used?

Because it wasn't very good.

[remote moss]

popularity, cause people are dumb

i saw plenty of premade trios swap to it on bad days

[random nimbus]

Popularity doesn't matter when people are sweating their asses off looking for the most effective tool

It wasn't used because it wasn't very good

[remote moss]

effective my ass. ignore spitzer for one second, and youll find that krag performs better than mosin

and people still use base mosin, cause they somehow suck with spitzer even in high mmr

[random nimbus]

Mosin was and still is because it's always been good

[remote moss]

high level players my ass

[lofty sinew]

how can you suck with the ammo that is closer to hitscan :S

[remote moss]

they just beat you with better coordination while sitting to punish your impatient fuckups half the time

[random nimbus]

Spitzer makes the Mosin better. The Krag is good but even without spitzer it wouldn't be used more than the Mosin

Mosin can lower torso with Krag damage. If it lost spitzer, mosin would still be everywhere

[remote moss]

lack of practice and poor aim in general so they want more shots with ammo box, spitzers still too few even with spare ammo

[random nimbus]

I feel like being in high MMR and sucking are kinda conflicting here

[remote moss]

nah, a lot of fights are just one team punishing another team for worse positioning

[lofty sinew]

don't worry, i can solve the balance concerns with a new and exciting mechanic - misfires and jams

[remote moss]

sometimes good players make bad decisions cause they want to play the game

[random nimbus]

No, this isn't Tarkov

No gun jamming plz

[lofty sinew]

how am i going to ruin hunt if nobody listens to my terrible suggestions

[remote moss]

every time you get downed, your gun jam % goes up by 10%

[random nimbus]

Play more Hellfires

Run in with nothing but hellfires and be a tumor to everyone

[remote moss]

yeah surefoot hellfire is inescapable and you dont even need to waste time priming anything

[random nimbus]

Don't try to win. Just ruin their day

[remote moss]

run a 125 damage rifle like mako levering

or vetterli

[lofty sinew]

I mean it'd work but it's a lot more effort than not doing things unfortunately

[random nimbus]

True, not doing things is easy

[remote moss]

ah yes, the avg 6 star

i still need to learn to wallbang in hunt again. havent been getting enough time to get my practice in, too used to visual cues

[random nimbus]

I wallbang everything

Gotten some ugly headshots just spamming where I hear things

[remote moss]

what, with long ammo?

not properly abusing the fmj spam meta, i see

[random nimbus]

Regular long ammo and spitzer, but I wallbang with everything that can do it

Buckshot, compact. Anything

[remote moss]

thats the way

[random nimbus]

I cannot run without pen

It legit pains me

[spark plaza]

big chongus

[lofty sinew]

just shoot at things. i don't even wait for obvious noise. I just decide i'm nostradamus sometimes

[remote moss]

i cant stand normal compact and medium ammo. fmj is a beast

[lofty sinew]

granted i feel like them actually being inside the building you are shooting ups your chances a bit

[remote moss]

forbidden knowledge

[lofty sinew]

you mostly know right. they're in there someplace. is there anything better than getting a hitmarker when you just shoot a random part of a wall or whatever? no. it always feels mildly illegal. but you're getting away with it.

[random nimbus]

Just go for it

Worst that happens is you miss

Unless you run out of ammo

[remote moss]

you havent known true pain unless youve run out of ammo after two ammo boxes

you can have 90 compact fmj shots

and its still not enough to win

[deep snow]

Headshot x)

[random nimbus]

"Take that, Wall!"

[remote moss]

also compact fmj resupply is actually insane

so you get like 40 shots with marathon, then a secondary for like 24

64, then 20 per ammo box

[nova fjord]

Tried to save the horse but yea

[random nimbus]

Very interesting attempt to save it XD

[nova fjord]

Tried my best long live horse

[short halo]

He's just sleepy

[nova fjord]

Well his is now

He is

[lofty sinew]

yeah usually they're right as rain after a flying sledgehammer to the bonce. it was just being difficult probably

[short halo]

I see what's happening. You guys don't know this. When horses fight you, it's exhausting. . . cuz you're good. So often they need a nap afterwards

[nova fjord]

It’s the racist sledgehammer

That’s why I like shovels

We wiped the lobby and I got bored

[normal kayak]

BAN shotguns from clash

[modern pebble]

no !

[normal kayak]

pwetty pwease

[upbeat lark]

am never using spectre bayonet again

Before you ask

I use it cause it's free

[normal kayak]

alr well you hit head and arm its not the biggest surprise theyre alive

[coarse moss]

bayonet sux. that slightly shorter barrel makes a huge difference.

[upbeat lark]

My ego refuse to believe a fact okay

[normal kayak]

smh

[autumn kite]

Prestige 100 speedrun, what’s the loadout

[normal kayak]

lebel spitzer pax dum dum

‼️

[autumn kite]

I think you’re missing a silencer for ai kills

And balloon pops for maximum marks

For maximum xp env

[normal kayak]

you can just have like throwing axes in the tools for ai

or whatever your preferred melee is

and if the singular balloons matter that much to you throw the melee at it

[autumn kite]

Try throwing melee at a high balloon, you’re gonna be running 100 yards to fetch it

[normal kayak]

if i wanted a balloon that bad that i would bring a silencer to pop it i can imagine myself also running 100 yards

i honestly just shoot them regardless if i need a balloon

[autumn kite]

Well 20 balloons later you’d rather just be shooting them

What’s gonna pop you the most balloons

[upbeat lark]

Spear med flare pistol penny Deri
Mosin
Dolch
Big stamina shot
Big Regen shot
Ammo box
Big dynamite bundle

[autumn kite]

Expensive

I’m assuming also we’re farming event points for marks for xp envelopes to level quick, or is that not the strat

[upbeat lark]

A cheap but effective is just

Axe or knife as mele med choke (if team play) then whatever you wanted as the rest
Springfield one dum one poison or high velo
pax with dum or high velo
Then whatever consumables you want

[velvet socket]

This game is getting boring when people start forming teams mid-match. We end up being 3 versus 6 players. In the end, it's best not to play anymore.

[autumn kite]

Eh, just 1v6

Skill issue

[wise plume]

that means you and your team located at center

bad spot

[autumn kite]

Best just to avoid hunters

[normal kayak]

there is genuinely no way this happens oftene nough to make you quit

i mean have you tried just shooting them in the head

[dawn zinc]

I've literally never once felt like two teams have purposefully teamed up against my team.
If you get sandwiched then ofc you're gonna fight two teams

[steep narwhal]

im the most notorious person I know for teaming, no one i know does it as much as me

and we're talking about a couple times a month

if you turn your voip on and use it i will let you live

[wise plume]

spot bro

everything about spot

[autumn kite]

Get better

[wraith forum]

they need to get rid of wallbanging

what a bullshit way to play

lol

[random nimbus]

[peak jacinth]

Hey, so I've been thinking about what would be the best health bar set up is... What do you use?

[wraith forum]

winfield + levering, throwing axes, and 2x regen 2x vitality

[random nimbus]

I want the old pen damage back

Wallbangs are great

[wraith forum]

theres a reason i never keep my rank at 6

[random nimbus]

I went to 11

Got the free skins and then stopped with the 10% exp boost

[normal kayak]

☠️

[wraith forum]

oh im prestige 30

i meant 6 stars

the game transforms into something else entirely

im tryna play early days hunt showdown

[random nimbus]

Ohhhhh lol

[wraith forum]

thats only alive at 2-4*

people actually running into ya and not camping some bush tryna wallang like nubs

[normal kayak]

if youre prestige 11 you should keep going for the free blood bonds

its just free skins but instead you get to pick them

[random nimbus]

I find lower ranked people to be WAY more campy than high elo

The people I run into will push like crackheads the second they hear someone die

[normal kayak]

yeah honestly 2-4* are mostly crabs

thats why theyre in 2-4*

[wraith forum]

elitist scum

i will never join ur lobbies

[normal kayak]

they cannot improve in fighting because they do not get into actual fights

[wraith forum]

Ill keep deranking

[random nimbus]

I don't want you in my lobbies

I don't want to be in my lobbies lol

[dawn zinc]

If you voip and try to team with me I'm gonna say sure and then blast yo ass 😂

In teams

If I'm solo then it's different

[random nimbus]

Deranking is pointless tho

You will end up back where you should be very soon anyway

And clubbing seals in lobbies you are clearly more skilled than is just ruining their games for that short period

[dawn zinc]

Deranking is so weird. Such a waste of time just so you can have a game or two against people who are less skilled than you

Proper weird mindset

[steep narwhal]

funnily enough it hasnt happened to me yet

[royal holly]

I just got my ass kicked by a solo player

He threw a grenade right before we picked up the bounty then i got flashed and stabbed

[faint lava]

guys did we just get 8.6 gigs of bug fixes and quest changes?

[empty eagle]

Yesterday? Or the day before there was a patch ja

#general-announcements

[mortal torrent]

shotgun that has the highest bullet velocity

[dawn zinc]

Romero and Homestead

[mortal torrent]

homested?

[faint lava]

this HAS to be some preparation for larger update. There isnt gigabytes worth of assets in an update with... well. No assets. Its just fixes and UI changes

right?

[dawn zinc]

It's a scarce weapon that was added during an event not too long ago

[mortal torrent]

oh u can get it only on circus?

[dawn zinc]

You can find it randomly in a sealed box at towers

[empty eagle]

shrug

[normal kayak]

maxx knows something we dont

[empty eagle]

I'm not Crytek. Maybe they had new code they needed for the bugs

[normal kayak]

maxx

when will they fix mmr

[empty eagle]

I've asked them not too

What would y'all complain about if they did

[dawn zinc]

One of the fixes was for an unusual bug in tutorial. Wouldn't be surprised if that was a bit beefier than the other changes

[empty eagle]

We're also coming up on the Chinese new years iirc

[royal holly]

Bug fixes the size of an xbox 360 game

[dawn zinc]

Yeah, likely they added stuff in preparation

[empty eagle]

And we haven't seen the new Asian hunter

[sick bramble]

when they release an update does the update size add to the total game size or are files deleted and replaced

[royal holly]

When will we get an arab hunter

[empty eagle]

We have several unless I'm stupid

[normal kayak]

one tap weapons

[royal holly]

For real?

Cool

[raven totem]

it's hunt

[faint lava]

Only after they add the winter map with the wendigo themed wild target.

[normal kayak]

damn..

[faint lava]

So in Hunt: Showdown Two, Swamptastic Boogaloo

[fathom shale]

Both

[sick bramble]

so game size doesn't just keep increasing with each update right?

[dawn zinc]

Not necessarily but sometimes

Files get replaced

Sometimes new ones added

[sick bramble]

ok that makes sense, otherwise hunt would be like 300gb by now

[royal holly]

and cod would be 1 terabyte

[umbral ruin]

Imagine predator as the new boss

[normal kayak]

not sure where dr disrespect would fit

[umbral ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-holyshit-gif-14504241

[peak jacinth]

This makes me laugh in a way that is not legal

[dawn zinc]

Wonder if we might see the first tease next week for what's coming after the circus packs up again

You can leave feedback #feedback

I agree! hopefully the profile customisation gets some nice additions in future updates

[gloomy creek]

they've been hitting some homeruns leatly, exctited to see whats next

[trail spade]

Hopefully new guns that arent scarce

[dawn zinc]

I think so too! Not enjoyed the game this much since the tides events

[trail spade]

They came back hard in the second part of the event. Flame rifle and infested compounds are cool

Circus and water bottles were meh imo

[hollow roost]

I fricking love the flame rifle

I did a 7 kill thanks to it and the drilling

This trio came up on me and when my drilling was empty and they necrod the one guy I peeked the corner and lit him up

I love it

Plus it takes down the bear in like two volleys

And the bug guy, and scrapbeak

Honestly it's great

I'm ranting at Noone

[upbeat lark]

Flame rifle is a nice team play weapon

Burn one small bar and most long ammo one tap the enemies in the chest given sufficient range

[dawn zinc]

Just abolish shotguns please

[hollow roost]

Yeah but with like only half a full gassed volley you obliterate a hunter

[hollow roost]

Join the dark side

[upbeat lark]

It's a bit inconsistent to me

The enemies I came across runs like deer the moment they heard the flame rifle

[hollow roost]

Really? It's been great to me, if you miss the direct hit it usually hits the ground

[hollow roost]

Yeah you gotta surprise em

[trail spade]

Buckshot mouthwash

[hollow roost]

It's why I took the drilling, they think "Oh he's out" then you gas it up and light em up

[upbeat lark]

I can not play really close range like shotgun range

It's why I more often use deadeye weapons

Starting to learn with the bow tho

[hollow roost]

Well that's kinda the thing, sometimes you gotta

[hollow roost]

Bow is great

But yeah at close range you gotta be ready to end that fight immediately

So with bow you gotta either bring a fan pistol, a regular pistol double, or a shotgun, maybe a really good melee weapon

At least until you trust your strafe ability and aim to use say a normal pistol single

But don't worry about it, I was like that at the start, letting Noone near me, it's a good strategy but if someone gets the drop on you you're not prepared

[upbeat lark]

I bring a deadeye weapon with the bow for long range fights

Bow is more so a shotgun replacement

And something to stealth

[hollow roost]

Fair

It's basically a Romero slug

[trail spade]

Why would you bring shotgun wirh bow lol

The bow is the shotgun

[upbeat lark]

Shotgun replacement

Not bow with shotguns

[hollow roost]

Panic shots if you miss

[trail spade]

Faster to tap fire bow

[upbeat lark]

With the bow I bring a deadeye weapon the Springfield shorty deadeye eye is the thing I bring

[raven totem]

[hollow roost]

Fair enough

[hollow roost]

Nice

[upbeat lark]

Springfield is nice with dumdum

[trail spade]

What isnt nice with dumdum

Lol

[upbeat lark]

Nitro

[raven totem]

Dolch, most pistols.

[hollow roost]

Mmm pax Trushot with dum dum

[trail spade]

Nitro loves shredder

[hollow roost]

Dolch has dum dum?

[upbeat lark]

Less ammo pool and I believe it lost the ability to one tap arm

[hollow roost]

When was this?

[trail spade]

Ye as scarce

[hollow roost]

Ohhh scarce

[trail spade]

Same ammo pool

[hollow roost]

Boo

[trail spade]

Never could 1 tap arm afaik

But they insta die from bleed

[raven totem]

Yes, it's scarce, not really worth it imo

[trail spade]

At point blank

[upbeat lark]

Why do I vividly remember it have 2 less ammo pool

[hollow roost]

Only the wildland and the Homestead are worth it honestly

[trail spade]

Idk

[hollow roost]

Fricking love the wildcard

Wildland*

[upbeat lark]

Wildland with dum is really nice

I'm still trying to find it to this day

Literally this update I found more gold cash register than the Wildland

[raven totem]

I meant dum dum on dolch, dolch itself isn't scarce, arguably best pistol in the game

[trail spade]

Objectively*

[raven totem]

Big red towers

[trail spade]

Dolch is a fkin menace

[hollow roost]

No I know I meant scarce things in general

[upbeat lark]

The big sniper towers I know

[trail spade]

Bornheim is so sad compared to dolch lol

[hollow roost]

Found it in a watch tower on a desk for 3 Event marks

[upbeat lark]

And that one tower on the mine map that I forgot the name of

[raven totem]

Meanwhile uppercut is the side arm of choice by many of the best players in the game.

[upbeat lark]

It have to 3 tap body it can't even be compared

Unless match variant

[hollow roost]

Doesn't it with incendiary do enough to two tap body?

[trail spade]

Ok

[hollow roost]

How do I make the haymaker good?

[raven totem]

No incendiary eats max hp, the only bornheim that can two tap is match

[trail spade]

Aim

[hollow roost]

😔

[upbeat lark]

Haymaker is nice

[trail spade]

[hollow roost]

Ahh I thought it sets em too with two back to back

[upbeat lark]

As a meme build I like to just use 2 of it

[hollow roost]

Hell yeah

[raven totem]

Ya it'll set them on fire, but fire isn't real damage

[upbeat lark]

That one tech you do with revolvers where you switch weapon after firing with it is nice with it

[hollow roost]

Damn

[hollow roost]

Damn I'm such an amateur I didn't think of that

[upbeat lark]

I'm addicted to hunt at this rate

[hollow roost]

I'm a hunt showdown impulse player, I get like month long Addictions then forget it exists

[upbeat lark]

Oof

[trail spade]

I played nonstop since I came back :P

[hollow roost]

Also for some reason it takes like, a minute for the models to load in, even though I upgraded in november

[upbeat lark]

Only time where I stopped playing is when I need to move for college to a new apartment

Quit for like 1 and a half month

[trail spade]

Are u on ssd ?

[hollow roost]

It's such a good game but I get so pissed cuz I suck

[hollow roost]

I think so, I have three drives

[upbeat lark]

Relatable

[trail spade]

I quit 1 year when the new big update droppe

That UI was god awful

[upbeat lark]

Oof

[trail spade]

You should check thats prob why

[hollow roost]

I'm like "Can't wait to get another 50" then at 48 I get shotgunned by a Romero slug and can't get up again cuz they wait

[hollow roost]

What do I do, dawg?

[trail spade]

Check where the game is installed

[hollow roost]

And then move it? To which one? I didn't expect the guy who helped me upgrade to put a new drive in

Love that guy

[upbeat lark]

I wanna buy a new bigger SSD but god the price rn

[hollow roost]

Learned his whole life story, kinda upset with his kids

[trail spade]

Well first do you HAVE a ssd or not ? Then you see which is which and move it to the ssd

[hollow roost]

Haha I bought before the crash, I'm so powerful

[hollow roost]

Good point, I'm not really a tech wiz I'm more an Acoustic engineer

I'd have to check

[upbeat lark]

Just a 248gig cost like 30$ converted from my third world country currency

[hollow roost]

Yeesh, which country?

[upbeat lark]

Indonesia

[hollow roost]

YEAAAAAAH

I GUESSED RIGHT

I'm so smart

[zinc arch]

Fsakes, i vaulted in the circus and got kicked out of the game... (disconnected) and cant get back in... ty crytek, lost a good hunter...

[upbeat lark]

If it's not Indonesia it's more often Chinese

I've never met any Japanese players in my randoms

[trail spade]

Do you play on EU servers ?

[upbeat lark]

Let alone my kind it's all the Chinese

[upbeat lark]

Asia

Its the only one where I have below 100 Ms

[trail spade]

Then you arent chinese

😂❤️🥰

[hollow roost]

Well I guessed Indonesia Because They're more connected, The Japanese Players are non existent, and the Chinese tend to be less willing to talk about economical problems out of fewr

[trail spade]

Japanese players would play Hunt if it was a mobile game

[upbeat lark]

Fr

[trail spade]

Big market there

For mobile games

[hollow roost]

I honestly don't think I could ever Understand the mobile game culture

[trail spade]

Same

[hollow roost]

It's either gambling or garbage

Sometimes both

[upbeat lark]

The mobile game market is big cause they often do not have time to sit and play on a desktop

They work culture is something else there

[hollow roost]

That's fair, very sad work culture there

Honestly I feel bad for them

[upbeat lark]

Same but it it what it is

[trail spade]

Imagine working tho

Couldnt be me

[hollow roost]

I don't know, We show uo and be rude all the time, so I feel extra bad

[upbeat lark]

I wanna work

[hollow roost]

Plus we romanticize the crap outta their culture when it's kinda...back breaking and empty

[upbeat lark]

Get money

And buy a new Iem

[hollow roost]

Mmm lemons

[trail spade]

I want to have a disease named after me unironically

Thats the goal

[upbeat lark]

Iem

In ear monitors

[hollow roost]

Give yourself one

[upbeat lark]

Basically headset on crack

[hollow roost]

That sounds insane

[trail spade]

And let some colleague doctor name it whatever? No.

[hollow roost]

Give it to someone else, then be the colleague

[trail spade]

Yes

Now we are gaming

[hollow roost]

My socks are wet :(

I like the snow but cmon

Thank you for the fire, dry my socks please

[trail spade]

Imo

[upbeat lark]

I don't believe that they'll sound better either but after I tried one I'm overblown

[trail spade]

Snow > Summer Heat

[hollow roost]

You can do something about the cold, not the heat

[trail spade]

Ye

[hollow roost]

Yeah? I'm losing hearing from all the rock music

[upbeat lark]

The heat all you can do is either

[hollow roost]

Plus I'm plump, so I don't get cold as often

[trail spade]

Restrict it to max 60db or whatever

[upbeat lark]

Stay at home like a cave dwellers for the fans and acs

Or bear with it

[hollow roost]

I can't, I need to feel the music

Namsayn?

[hollow roost]

Ah so my life

[upbeat lark]

Same

[hollow roost]

I love AC

Europe can suck it

[trail spade]

I lost my ears to tarkov

[trail spade]

Fk y too

I have ac

[upbeat lark]

Tbh I wanna go out too but I'm too afraid to bike down the road

[hollow roost]

Where in Europe allows ac?

[trail spade]

Lmao ?

[upbeat lark]

It's been way too many times where I almost got into a road accident

[trail spade]

Everywhere afaik

Romania for sure

[hollow roost]

Yeah I heard its tight roads in indo

[hollow roost]

Sorry, everywhere in Europe is just England with a different hat to me

[upbeat lark]

The bikers are something else man

They're like daredevils

[hollow roost]

I'm glad you have AC

[hollow roost]

Yeah I bet, here the bikers act like I'm not gonna run em over

Like don't clog the damn lane and then not follow laws

[upbeat lark]

Indeed

[trail spade]

Im fighting demoms rn to not say anything about the US education (assuming you are from the US)

[hollow roost]

Ofc I'm from the US I'm fat and Whine about AC

[trail spade]

Im fighting GOD trying to not make a diabetes joke

[hollow roost]

Listen it started falling off around the 90s, I was kinda screwed

[hollow roost]

I'm almost there

Flicking love soda