hunt-general

[fleet adder]

Factual statement

[woven cape]

gulpies

[remote moss]

You.

[fleet adder]

Hwat

[remote moss]

y'all are just bullying me because i cant play rn, fr fr

ill get my revenge later

[mystic mulch]

[woven cape]

I uhm I may have cooked poorly

[mystic mulch]

buff Bornheim fr.

[royal cloak]

Skill issue

[remote moss]

no, dont actually buff bornheim

its too close to being broken, take that from a glazer, ok

[fleet adder]

High key no lol

Only the suppressed version

[remote moss]

the most it needs is fmj, and that makes for some very annoying combo kills behind walls

[random nimbus]

What damage did you get for Bornheim match?

[full raven]

Silenced Born with subsonic is where its at

[mystic mulch]

Buff it by giving it more skins.

[woven cape]

74 to stomach, 55 to arms

[remote moss]

thatll do

[woven cape]

But I uhh I may have messed up the 2 shot formula

[random nimbus]

Did it scale the shots with different locations?

[remote moss]

marsh put 67 bornheim arm dmg, fr fr

[woven cape]

Ok don't ask how

But the bornheim match in my sheet uses the winnie numbers

[remote moss]

you betrayed me

[woven cape]

In the 2 shot test

I cooked

In fact everything is moved around

It's to do with the tables

It was fine before I did that 😭

[random nimbus]

I hate this thing the more I test with it

[past compass]

Did anyone answer as to if the Maynard was removed from free hunters?

[random nimbus]

I have no clue, I can't use free hunters

[remote moss]

get your cursed hands off my precious thing

[mystic mulch]

I don't know if I've ever even seen it there.

[past compass]

I remember it being there

[random nimbus]

Oh I meant the dolch lol

[remote moss]

oh then i agree

[random nimbus]

The fire rate difference is just gross

[remote moss]

wretched specimen of an outdated time

[random nimbus]

And by gross I mean the dolch shoots way too fast

The difference in speed is not much at all

[full raven]

Match spam so good

[random nimbus]

And considering the Match HAS to upper twice while the dolch can Arm/Lower, yeah the Bornheim ain't cuttin' it

[astral moss]

Very disgusting indeed.

[remote moss]

yes, it is the smg

[full raven]

It would be weird if the $690 pistol didn't do better

[woven cape]

I have updated

I will see if link good

[random nimbus]

It's not about it just doing better, it's that the Match is so inconsistent it's kinda nutty

It's spammy and can be a pain in the ass to deal with

[woven cape]

It is good now Idk how it borked

[astral moss]

Having a semi-auto rifle in the game absolutly not, nerf it plz cryteck its not Call Of, BUT a semi auto pistol no problem.

[remote moss]

looks better now, all white from lack of two tapping on the bornie

[random nimbus]

But it being so shafted vs the dolch is just ridiculous

[remote moss]

bro, isnt that just a skill issue instead of consistency

people use base mosin more than base krag because of skill issue, they need high limb dmg or they wont secure kills

[random nimbus]

I mean, just headshot

That's the same argument.

Everything is top tier if you headshot

[remote moss]

smh

[full raven]

I enjoy my Bornheim Silencer too much

[random nimbus]

But most people don't headshot all the time

[remote moss]

in a more reasonable outlook, i bodyshot just fine, i dont need the limbshot

headshots are inconsistent, fr fr

[rancid ridge]

guys im cooked,i need a better graphic card to play

thats the only misisng thing 😭

[random nimbus]

Limbshots are a huge part of the game

They just buffed them

[remote moss]

theyre not, they used to be what determined a good player from a bad one

[mystic mulch]

I've been using it as my main pistol for a while. It's just so useful.

[remote moss]

now its ease of use to get easy kills for everyone

[full raven]

Im more focused on hitting them more than headshots, close range, I jsut unload into their chest

[random nimbus]

That's one thing that made the mosin so damn annoying was that it was so forgiving of bad shots at such long ranges

It consistently killed almost all the time with any two shots

[woven cape]

Feet shots 🥶

[random nimbus]

Now it literally can two tap feet

[remote moss]

feet hunter

[woven cape]

funter

[mystic mulch]

1865 Carbine.

[random nimbus]

Consistency is the name of the game. Skill is only really relevant with headshots

[full raven]

I want to enjoy this gun but I hate it

[astral moss]

Am i the only one frustrated about the dolch being op for so much time but other much weaker weapon got nerf to the ground ?
(Since i am biased i think firts of the avto and the nitro but there is probable much more.)

[random nimbus]

And a gun that consistently two taps anywhere else more than others is a better pick 90% of the time unless the niche in question is so drastic it overcomes that

[full raven]

The cycle time is too long for me not jsut jsut use a better rifle.

[mystic mulch]

The dolch has eaten some number of nerfs. It's not like it's gone untouched.

[astral moss]

Still the best secondary weapon overall.

[remote moss]

the only real dominating niche for bornheim or especially bornie match niche is that you have little downtime between fights, rarely at a range where people can rush you down before you can constantly pressure with a magdump

[mystic mulch]

It's funny. I avoided it for a long time because I just didn't like how it looks.

[remote moss]

i also dont personally think headshots are that skill based. most of my hs deaths and hs kills are when i peek very predictably in a place theyre already aiming at

its rarely an aim skill thing, its a movement skill thing

[mystic mulch]

But it's worked really well for me.

[random nimbus]

That doesn't matter as much if you have to 3 tap everyone and they can just two tap. Plus the dolch gets 10 shots without losing one without bulletgrubber

[astral moss]

Like there is surely a reason everyone run it with the beautiful mosin.

[random nimbus]

When I say skill based, it's primarily in that they are the great equalizer.

[remote moss]

at similar kill speed times, and bornheim stops the fight from being a fair semi auto engagement because of the higher cycle time for more aim punch

[mystic mulch]

Knowing where to aim for a predictable peak is an expression of skill, I'm afraid.

[remote moss]

preaim skill, but more focused on punishing bad movement than rewarding personal skill

[random nimbus]

And if you get aimpunched, you have fewer shots and do less damage, so that upper torso two tap dream becomes a lot harder to do.

[warm star]

Why does my friend get a message saying the USA est region is unavailable when he selects servers?

[random nimbus]

You aren't the only one doing the aimpunching and pushing

[astral moss]

Probably cause its the case right now.

[remote moss]

might be a skill thing i dont notice on my part tbh, i basically never get aimpunched when fighting with match

ive fought and won against cyclone players, levering, dolch

all relatively consistently

[warm star]

Is it really disabled?

[mystic mulch]

Prefire skill when I have to account for my 200m/s 1865 carbine

[random nimbus]

The only way you don't get aimpunched is if people don't hit you. Brawler being a new exception.

So if nobody is returning fire or just misses everything, yeah something might look better

[warm star]

How?

[remote moss]

hm, its probably that i usually land the first shot cause of reaction time

so theyre on an aimpunch debuff while im firing free of charge

[random nimbus]

Point being, the Match is not a consistent weapon, and doesn't see much use because of it.

[remote moss]

yes yes, its not consistent enough for bad players to abuse easily

[warm star]

What are you talking about?

[astral moss]

Bruiser will probably getting added after event.

Maybe with a little nerf.

[random nimbus]

Are they bad if they win?

[remote moss]

with the bornheim? no

[random nimbus]

If the tool needs so much carrying to work well, then I think the tool might have issues.

[mystic mulch]

If they use the dolch?

[random nimbus]

Trick question.

[mystic mulch]

[remote moss]

i mean, its also a matter of very EASILY surmountable issues

[astral moss]

No ?

[random nimbus]

If it was that easy, then the weapon would be used a lot more frequently.

[random nimbus]

It was a rhetorical question.

[astral moss]

But i think hitting 2 bullet with the dolch isn't that skilled.

[remote moss]

yes, and theres also the matter of the playerbase

[random nimbus]

Again, consistency is the name of the game. The more consistent weapons are going to be used more.

[astral moss]

Like anybody can hit torso 2 time consistently.

[mystic mulch]

I seem to remember a brief period of HV Bornheim match popularity.

[remote moss]

back when hv was closer to a straight upgrade, it was a beast

[mystic mulch]

I don't know if I dreamed it.

[random nimbus]

If a weapon that fills the same kind of niche can kill with much more shot variance, then that makes it more consistent and it will be used over the similar options that cannot replicate that.

[astral moss]

And 2 player can have the same aim but winning over the fire rate of the weapon, in the case of the dolch.

[remote moss]

with the current recoil debuff on hv, you cant hv on bornie match for the same magdump potential. in exchange, you get a fast consistent head tapper. but you dont get the magdump that can shred body and head as easily

[warm star]

Seriously, can someone explain why I can't select the US EAST servers?

It says the region is not available.

[remote moss]

alright alright, ill obsess slightly less about bornheim and say something else instead

[random nimbus]

There's not too many situations where fire rate is the main determining factor unless it's a pretty wide gap.

[remote moss]

i enjoy the feeling of farming shitty dolch players with bornheim

and it feels very damn good

and easy

[random nimbus]

Something like the dolch vs bornheim is going to be down to who shoots first

[remote moss]

which goes to a higher skill vs lower skill instance, fr fr

[random nimbus]

I really don't know why you keep trying to factor in skill.

Nobody cares about skill.

[astral moss]

Why ?
In situation of dual you instant go back to safety after you fire or you shoot again ?

Like fire rate is a big advantage.

[random nimbus]

It's just a self fulfilling factor to ego boost. Winning is what wins, and the gun that does that better is the better pick.

[remote moss]

youre absolutely right

[mystic mulch]

Obviously the answer here is crossbow because it'll 1 tap.

[remote moss]

which is why you should compensate by just using spam and waiting for people to peek while you kill them with higher rof. so you want a consistent gun like cyclone

thats how hunt optimizes itself, its all about holding angles and punishing the greed

limiting skill instances, and rewarding uninteresting optimized engagements

[random nimbus]

I'm talking in a shootout where you are both exchanging fire and the one shooting faster is the theoretical winner. Most of the time with weapons of similar class, the difference in fire rate isn't what wins the fight

[remote moss]

now most fights are in compound range where mosins advantage is matched by guns like vetterli and cyclone with higher rof, who also are forgiving to limb shots

and you will win a fair gunfight, no skill involved, with the higher rof option

so people should really be using cyclone more

[random nimbus]

They were for a while

[remote moss]

and vetterli

[mystic mulch]

not enough Velocity for these gamers

[astral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

[random nimbus]

The Cyclone is one of those cases where its niche strengths can let it compete with things originally outside its weapon tier

[random nimbus]

How often are you in a shootout where its two tap vs two tap with no cover and both people shoot at the same time?

[mystic mulch]

Very often in my experience.

[astral moss]

I didn't know dolch was 100% useless after 30m like a medium range weapon or a cqc one.
(sarcasm)

[mystic mulch]

(console player moment)

[astral moss]

In CQC ?

[random nimbus]

In general.

Long range and CQC

[remote moss]

depends what you mean by cover

[astral moss]

Or in a bunch of situation, like with the fire rate this thing have if you are 2 feet away of your cover you got 2 taps before going back.

[remote moss]

a lot of engagements are with guns that fuck you before you can get into cover, even if youre right next to it

[mystic mulch]

the extract horse.

lets assume the horse is perfectly spherical.

[random nimbus]

And a bornheim is less consistent at doing that because it requires upper torso shots exclusively while other options can fire at rates that, in MOST situations, kill them before they get to cover and with less inconsistencies.

[remote moss]

youre absolutely right. i respect the fact that i can farm people with bornheim despite its inadequacies thanks to their own personal inadequacies that make me laugh

[random nimbus]

Also, dolch 2 taps upper at 35m

This gun is nuts

[astral moss]

YES !!!

[remote moss]

i love bullying people that use shit guns, i cant belive they would just use inconsistent trash like krag

[random nimbus]

Again, you use what you like. Making it a skill thing is just for your own sake.

[remote moss]

Again, I said it feels very good, and skill is very important in engagements in a PvP game, which is why its removed from the discussion

[astral moss]

I don't think its on the player to use OP bullsh*t, its on the devs to nerf it.

[random nimbus]

A weapon that rewards skill in greater magnitude is going to be a better pick.

[remote moss]

Yes it is, and overcoming that gap with personal skill is a very important feeling in fps games

[mystic mulch]

Skill considerations make objective comparisons very difficult to make in a discussion.

[random nimbus]

All well and good. Doesn't make the Match a good weapon.

[remote moss]

some shitter using shotgun around a corner in siege, dying to your better aim with a slow fire rate gun

very lovely

yes, match is terrible, especially once equal skill comes into the factor

[random nimbus]

Just means you gotta work harder to make it work, and there will be a lot of times where it will let you down specifically because you're using it.

[remote moss]

maybe for wallbangs?

[mystic mulch]

Like, yeah. Shotgun guy. But what if you just headshot him?

[random nimbus]

For anything not Upper Torso shots

[remote moss]

yes, have to compensate for its inferiority with concepts like skill

[astral moss]

Who actually care of the skill in hunt in big 2025 ?

[remote moss]

me, because i crave the feeling

[astral moss]

[remote moss]

i want more rage comments on my profile because of my sheer contempt for them as players

[mystic mulch]

You have to put in more effort to get the same results. This is why it's not considered good.

[random nimbus]

I get the enjoyment of using lower tier weapons to beat higher tier ones, especially to steal them

[crystal bay]

It's spam

spam is good weapon

[random nimbus]

It's an inconsistent spam

[crystal bay]

There are better spams for sure

[random nimbus]

Means it's not a good spam

[crystal bay]

but doesn't mean it's not good

it is a good spam

accurate, low recoil

[random nimbus]

Compared to its competition, it's bad

[crystal bay]

easy to spam

[astral moss]

Is avto a good spam ?

[random nimbus]

If it was good, it would be used.

[crystal bay]

Doesn't mean it's not good

It is used

[full raven]

Its used a lot

[random nimbus]

It's very rarely used.

[crystal bay]

Lebel isn't bad because mosin is used way more

[remote moss]

the issue is shutting down the skill argument first, once youre bringing up skill. it takes less skill to magdump accurately with bornheim than it does to magdump for dolch. if youre looking at stats, ofc the dolch is solid

[random nimbus]

It does mean the lebel is bad compared to the competition

[crystal bay]

relatively sure

but saying it isn't good in general

[unique trail]

Hunters listen up

[crystal bay]

is untrue

[random nimbus]

When it's a min/max winning situation, not the best is bad.

[crystal bay]

If you say good guns are bad then they'll just get buffed to a point we don't want to see

[remote moss]

the issue with this, is that you also have to take a look at what skill is for the general playerbase. hunt is a very very different playerbase from other comp shooters, and youll notice a lot of people struggle even with strong weapons like dolch, because they just cant compensate for the sway. a statistic disadvantage, and also low skill

[random nimbus]

The Match is also a very unique kind of weapon with a lot of drawbacks despite it being spam

[mystic mulch]

Well yeah. why you compare two guns, you have to make some assumption that the user will have a similar skill level using both.

Or the discussion falls apart.

[random nimbus]

It's a 2 slot that can't kill with anything but two upper torso

[remote moss]

nonsense, this discussion makes perfect sense, im being very specific on what the actual skill level of hunt players are at

[mystic mulch]

*at close range

[remote moss]

and theyd do better with magdumping bornie if they learnt it, vs trying to learn with dolch and barely winning out because of stats because they struggle with sway at their skill level

[mystic mulch]

*if you use the match

*xd

[random nimbus]

No, they would be better with a dolch in almost every scenario

[void geode]

last time xqc played hunt he lived 0 times and hated the game

is this cooked

[remote moss]

looking at stats, yes

[mystic mulch]

How much you bet he stabs the first immolator he sees.

[remote moss]

now looking at their personal ability as a person, they should try an easier option like magdumping bornie instead thanks to its much less sway

[random nimbus]

Just looking at its performance.

[remote moss]

yes, its stats

[random nimbus]

The dolch IS the easier option

[void geode]

he knows how to play to an extent i remember i watched his most recent vod and he didnt like the game just complained whole time

[remote moss]

not with the sway, its more forgiving thanks to higher limb dmg

[random nimbus]

The way isn't that bad, and the extra limb damage actively counters the drawbacks any sway might have

[mystic mulch]

I feel like sway gets overblown.

[random nimbus]

Because you don't NEED to counter the sway as much

[mystic mulch]

More sway is also directly counteracted by the fact you can kill on a limb hit.

[random nimbus]

Literally any two body shots or body/arm will kill with the dolch

That massively increases your kill potential and makes it the easier option

[remote moss]

but theres practically no sway and very little correction with bornie? the amount of correction you make with dolch is more than the actual bornie even taking into account the ease of only needing to limb

[random nimbus]

Practically no sway doesn't matter if you just hit arm because now you have to 3 tap.

People aren't perfect shots, especially under pressure

A weapon that can account for that in more circumstances will be the easier and more consistent option

[remote moss]

yes, but the ease of use still means its easy to hit the arm, which still applies a certain amount of aimpunch. now theres cycle time, so youre more likely to aimpunch than with dolch

[random nimbus]

Aimpunch is an extremely relative thing to consider, because it might matter or it might not.

[full raven]

A miss does 0 damage

[random nimbus]

Relying on aimpunch isn't exactly a good strategy, imo because it's not a consistent one

On top of that, what happens when YOU get aimpunched and you hit limb?

[remote moss]

yeah, i do have personal bias with that, i am deliberately trying to flex with bornie, but i do get carried by the aimpunch in a lot of encounters

[random nimbus]

You now need an extra shot and they only need 1

[remote moss]

i have been aimpunched before, especially in limb tap duels, but the cycle time means that aimpunch doesnt hurt as bad

[random nimbus]

The cycle time is .2 and .3 for Born and Dolch respectively

That difference is not gonna matter in most situations

[full raven]

50% more?

[remote moss]

50%?

[remote moss]

well shit, this is where i usually say "have you seen the avg dolch user? they shoot it at the same speed as a spitfire with potential to spam click if theyre scared"

thats because they struggle with the sway, but thats not usable, smh

[random nimbus]

The sway stats are the same. Both 87

[remote moss]

wait, i said sway

the fucking uhhh recoil thing

[random nimbus]

You mean recoil, likely

[remote moss]

thats the main thing that fucks the dolch

while the main thing fucking the bornheim match are the sights

[random nimbus]

Which is still not that bad because it isn't long recoil.

And here's a thing the dolch can do in respective ranges the bornheim will struggle with: Hip fire.

[remote moss]

the recoil and then semi auto sway of the dolch is pretty nasty? what do you call that

[random nimbus]

Recoil issues gone. Hip fire spam and anywhere upper and they die

[remote moss]

it gets a sway debuff after you pop it once

and yeah, dolch goes crazy once people learn to hipfire and jump shot

[random nimbus]

Both get the sway debuff after shooting

[remote moss]

yes but bornie less so

[mystic mulch]

Big if true. bullet ricochets when.

[random nimbus]

Iirc, neigher of them do with their 2 slot variants

It's only the pistols

So base dolch and base bornheim

[remote moss]

huh, i thought that was a swap sway debuff

and it was just less sway on the 2 slot variants

less semi auto sway after firing, that is

[random nimbus]

On single slots

I'm holding them both and they have no extra sway after shooting

Or swapping

[remote moss]

tf?

how old am i

[random nimbus]

2 slot privileges

I thought it applied to both, tbf

[remote moss]

oh nvm, i thought you meant the single slots had no swap sway

[random nimbus]

Apparently the 2 slots are exempt from this

[remote moss]

yeah that was an old thing

[random nimbus]

Which is odd because I'm pretty sure the Officer Carbine does have extra sway

But maybe I'm missremembering

[remote moss]

could be deliberate, that shits nasty too

i probably shouldve mentioned that officer carbine has higher performance than the bornies, and i despise its existence

that shits way too easy to use at long range and leads to an easy spam kill in closer distances like with dolch precision

[random nimbus]

Also Crytek, please let the ammo box that gives all ammo back work with special ammo in the shooting range

Spamming the purple box is getting old x.x

[north stag]

Man I love Hunt, but man this everyday is kind of getting old....

[remote moss]

you deserve this

suffer

i hate you, occupationally

[remote moss]

not you, rip servers tho

[random nimbus]

Do I get paid for the occupation?\

[remote moss]

no

[random nimbus]

Damn

[remote moss]

i hope i find you in game so i can destroy you with semi auto

[random nimbus]

I'm usually running Mosins

And a shotty

[remote moss]

most people are

dude, im so tired of low 6 star, its where all the mosin rats play. it gets diff if i get out of there, at least

get the fuck out of the forest where visibility is shit

[random nimbus]

Slate Penny/Obrez Drum Spitzer lately

Total sweaty

[remote moss]

no ck slugs at least

[random nimbus]

I used to use Crown slugs

[lyric spear]

Twitch says drops are going. Channels say drops enabled, not gaining time on them from 3 separate channels

[random nimbus]

It's nonsense

Went to specter slugs for a while

Also nonsense

[remote moss]

slugs are a weird one cause theyre inaccurate

ive choked so many kills cause of slug inaccuracy on specter

the compact one

[random nimbus]

The deviation can really be nutty, especially on the 2 slots

But slugs aren't worth it to me anymore

Buckshot is massively buffed

And I've had good luck with slate penny

Despite not believing in it at first

[remote moss]

i hope your luck fails

penny shouldnt exist

[random nimbus]

My aim does first

So I just shoot through everything with spitzer

Because the obrez drum gets 22 spitzer bullets for some reason

[gusty drift]

Why did they need to invite XQC to play on the live stream with Post. 😡

[remote moss]

surprised they gave a hotfix that did nothing to cyclone except acknowledge they know its broken, but didnt touch the drum

[random nimbus]

25 bullets on the drum is just ridiculous

[remote moss]

the amount of people that hate him, are less than the emotionally driven fans that like him. and that might coincide with a young gamer playerbase, impressionable children to bait into hunt

[wicked fox]

I think that ended a few days ago.

[lyric spear]

Interesting still shows available

[gusty drift]

The last time he played three years ago he couldn't win a game and do we want young kids to play Hunt?

[lyric spear]

Thanks

[remote moss]

money money money

i wish they went for fortnite streamers or something, might be able to bait some of them here

[gusty drift]

Sucks really when there's so many Hunt streamers who play consistantly and have knowledge of the game

[remote moss]

those guys dont bring life into hunt, they keep it alive

theyre useful, and theyre gonna keep being useful no matter what because hunt is pretty addicting to them

when you DO get into the community, you get attracted to the valuable people like neenoh for being chilled or psychoghost for competent fucking tutorials

and all sorts of variations depending on personal taste

but they do jack all in bringing people into hunt, just scratches a hunt itch if you dont want to play the game, until you may eventually pick it up during an event

[gusty drift]

I'd love for more people to play, but what's the average age of an XQC viewer? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[remote moss]

prime free time age, early highschool, immature young adults

people with spare money to burn, new addictions to attach to

gradeschoolers

[gusty drift]

Sucks really

[remote moss]

anyway, at least streamers get cool personal skins

im glad neenoh changed his mind on the neenclaw

[gusty drift]

As long as they don't push stupid cosmetics for kids

[remote moss]

we'll see, track record was rough, dont know if theyll make enough money to keep things on track

[quiet grove]

opinions on Otis?

[gusty drift]

I'll watch the stream for Post Malone, but don't partially care about the other two

[stuck hatch]

Caseoh in hunt soon™️

[astral moss]

Who is Otis ?
Beside my neighbor that talk to squirrel.

[ancient cave]

all characters in the trio are cool design wise

could do without their quippy one liners tho

[floral dune]

Yo, anyone getting the crycloud error when logging in too?

0x30001 to be specific

[crystal bay]

Do you have Hunt installed on external hard drive?

[floral dune]

Ngl im playing on xcloud lol

Via my xbox one

Im too broke for a series😢

[lavish bear]

i get it so much but it usually js fixes itself in like 3 seconds

[past compass]

Neenoh is amazing

[woven cape]

Pretty cool that they exists

[royal cloak]

I dont know what to eat

[floral dune]

Yeah bro, i mean i aint spending a buck for a console just to play one single game you know?

Better off emulating it via gamepass

[untold stag]

a loadout of all time

[crystal bay]

RIP

[grizzled iris]

Whoever you stole this firepower from was better off wiping their ass with those hunt dollars

[untold stag]

😭

[coarse obsidian]

going into a match with nothing but a medkit is an experience

[outer fossil]

@lilac swan

[unique trail]

HUNT

[empty eagle]

almnce

[crystal bay]

amblance

[distant sentinel]

but not for me

[scarlet plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wilder-depeche-mode-personal-jesus-anton-corbijn-telephone-gif-16207170

[royal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/vampire-vampires-vampire-cat-cat-cats-gif-17105728321328650919

[desert acorn]

When someone would rather time out a hunter than leave without killin' me

[whole mist]

Based

[desert acorn]

I play hunt for the realism. That's CoD behavior.

[dense sleet]

Then you are playing the wrong game

Realism and Hunt dont belong in the same statement

[full raven]

Hunt is real life

[desert acorn]

Exactly. Nothing else is even in the same category of immersive.

[whole mist]

idk dude. I saw a hive in the forst once. I swear

[dense sleet]

See thats a better word

Immersive doesn't mean realistix

[desert acorn]

sluiclide bombing and Hunt only work if there's a necro/revive on the other side.

[dense sleet]

Bc hunt ain't realistic worth a damn

[desert acorn]

"Realism." It's real.

[full raven]

Like it Hunt, I don't always die to 2 bullets unless you come at me with the right pistol

[desert acorn]

It's not based on reality, but it's a cohesive alternative.

[dense sleet]

Hate to break it to you

But Hunt isnt real

Like at all

Its pixels my dude

[full raven]

Don't let them gaslight you, Hunt is super real

[dense sleet]

Hope that helps:3

[desert acorn]

wonders if the weeb over there jokes from time to time.

[dense sleet]

Ive never joked

Everything is serious

[desert acorn]

The most serious Anime is still at times ridiculous.

Except the OG Akira.

[dense sleet]

Anime in essentially all forms is lunacy

As im watching a romcom one atm

[crystal bay]

Which one

[dense sleet]

More than a married couple

Decided to finally watch it after just having it on my watch list for ages. I see why people like its really good

[lavish bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387655243218817080/1420798618356551820/caption.gif

[full raven]

Be kind, shoot them in the face

[ancient whale]

Alright, Shot in the dark is probably gonna get me to start maining Lebel again.

[languid estuary]

Guys, why did the post malone event came back the spiders were cooler

[thin fable]

because

[full raven]

dude that trait where you can get back your ammo is crazy and i love it

I just assaulted a compound by chain throwing axes forever at the windows

forget guns

just start wipping spears everywhere

[lavish bear]

I js start flying with spinbot obviously

Fully auto uppercut

[full raven]

The spider were terrible

Spiderless towers is a breathe of fresh air

[full raven]

Does it just launch the barrel on opening

[crystal bay]

it just sits there politely

[full raven]

put an alert trip across the window

Then make noise outside

profit

[crystal bay]

I like it

[hollow nacelle]

Uh, I think there is yes

[desert acorn]

I'm gettin' good at placing trips. I take down some pretty high mmrs with em sometimes.

[crystal bay]

Thanks hunter

I never did find out until this very moment

[hollow nacelle]

Make sure you tell others about it too.

[whole furnace]

Man it know in this economy and current PC gaming situation, that demanding people run Hunt on ultra is unreasonable.
But it feels bad knowing that when I run vegetation render on ultra I am playing at disadvantage over people who doesn't.

[crystal bay]

I'll spread the word 🫡

[glacial dove]

Mmm, in medium texture + all high settings, textures and lod were flickering like christmas tree. (low to medium back and forth)
The game did changed alot but like it better noww (except advertisements!)

[desert acorn]

800 hours in, and I finally used fanning effectively for the first time.

[raven totem]

Fanning is fun, but it's hay day is far past unfortunately

[summer geyser]

What's the furthest kill distance stat you guys have seen so far?

[untold stag]

ppl still play this crap game?

[summer geyser]

You're chatting in the discord lol

[untold stag]

i know i realized im still in it and im like wait, the servers werene't shut down yet? 😂

[raven totem]

They did, but like two years after Kragen came out

[whole furnace]

with rifles or?

[sick bramble]

why would they shut down

[summer geyser]

anything. it's just furthest distance kill - mine is 252m

[untold stag]

cuz it sucks

[sick bramble]

🤡

[untold stag]

the finals is way better

no shotgun campers

and trapping boss compound

camp simulator

[sick bramble]

skill issue cope

[summer geyser]

devs give you all the tools to deal with campers, maybe you're just not that good

[whole furnace]

Well issue is that it doesn't care if its a rifle or traps, seen 1500+ meter kills

But those are traps

[desert acorn]

Is full-sized drilling worth the extra 200 dollars?

[summer geyser]

Nah, I have trap kills from very far away, it didn't count

[desert acorn]

Got a drilling/bow combo

[whole furnace]

Brother PLEASE

[whole furnace]

Then furthest is my own 244m kill :)

[summer geyser]

Nice. I'm playing right now to get a higher one. Maynard sniper - high velo. Seems to be the highest drop range

[whole furnace]

Eyup, basically the best way to grind is to hope for Lawson map and sprint to the lighthouse, there are sightlines of 230-350m

[raven totem]

all that dude does is bait heads up

[twilit folio]

yuck

I diagnose with death by rocks

[whole furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/luce-throwing-stone-luce-throwing-stones-throwing-rocks-throwing-rock-gif-8289221401342069099

[twilit folio]

precisely

[lavish bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945922507070922773/1166385868534186024/attachment-3-1.gif

[twilit folio]

This is mine now

[hoary nexus]

hey did anyone else's voice comms stop working after the last big update?

[chrome stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

people are falling for that damn

[desert acorn]

My friends and I spend 15 minutes PvE, then the trio rushes us and we fall apart like a house of cards.

[lavish bear]

😭

[chrome stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-back-to-the-future-bttf-marty-mcfly-ive-seen-this-one-gif-19802188

[lavish bear]

we usually run around until we find people

kill one

w key

works every time bro

[desert acorn]

My friends aren't comfortable yet. Which sucks, because we always fight higher mmr trios. Or duos.

[lavish bear]

what mmr

[desert acorn]

Low

[lavish bear]

like what star

[desert acorn]

When I play solo, I'm high 3. I haven't played solo in months, so I'm a 2.

My friends are just barely 2, and a 1

A 1, with 400 hours

[lavish bear]

ok bro😭

[desert acorn]

I mean, you CAN be a douche if you want...

It's a thing people do...

[lavish bear]

the only thing abt low mmr is the amount of camping that goes on in it

[desert acorn]

Definitely.

[lavish bear]

when i was like 3 star it was so annoying

bc people dont push

[desert acorn]

I go in, kill a boss and banish, and then wait there while 3 groups camp outside not even fighting each other.

Then, once it's clear I'm a solo, because I can only take one bounty, they'll hunt me all the way across the map without even grabbing the bounty.

[untold stag]

even the discord for this game is dead. shame.

[lavish bear]

yeah the camping and not moving makes no sense

the game isnt going anywhere

[desert acorn]

Um... wut?

The game has more players this month than it has since august of last year.

And the average number of players is steadily increasing.

[lavish bear]

game did lose a lot of players

[desert acorn]

A few years ago it did.

Not lately.

[lavish bear]

ik alot of the sweats left

[desert acorn]

https://steamcharts.com/app/594650

[lavish bear]

which kinda sucks

[chrome stratus]

Brother it's bait
Don't feed

[desert acorn]

Ah

I forget some people are starved for attention.

[chrome stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/buddha-gif-27051380

[whole furnace]

I can rest assure you, no they did not :')

[lavish bear]

alot of them did

[normal radish]

nay

[desert acorn]

The sweats are the ones that NEVER left.

Hunt has got to have the highest playtime per player of any game out there.

Excepting minecraft, I think.

[normal radish]

the ones that care the most about this game are the sweats or vets

[normal radish]

its quite high but not the highest

[whole furnace]

It was more a joke that I am still catching bullets to the dome like no tomorrows.
Also not to be rude, but it is "a lot" :)

[desert acorn]

Actually, that's not accurate. Counterstrike, Starcraft... any older esport

[chrome stratus]

Sometimes the only cure is more starvation

[desert acorn]

LoL

[whole furnace]

Dota

[desert acorn]

oof... Dota. That mini game in WC3

I hate that LoL is even a thing.

[normal radish]

dota is like for even beginner casual level, you need 2k

[lavish bear]

who is doing that💔

[desert acorn]

Yeah. I played Starcraft... it was like that.

[normal radish]

millions

[untold stag]

They left I heard cuz the game got too casual with all the traps, shotguns and dual pistols, levering, fanning etc.

[lavish bear]

yeah

[desert acorn]

"I suck... I only have 200 apms, and my record is 200 and 300. Just Koreans, though, so I might some day be okay."

[normal radish]

if anything it makes the game more brutal LMAO

[lavish bear]

pyro still plays a bit

[desert acorn]

The sweats are using the traps.

[lavish bear]

its js hard to enjoy it when theres js maynard silencer and auto 5 sitting in a corner every game

[normal radish]

hunt has NOT gone casual in the slightest bit

[desert acorn]

DS bomb is nuts.

[lavish bear]

sim quit aswell

[untold stag]

Just means any mouth drooler can get kills even in 6 star lobbies if they get a lucky RNG headshot spamming dual pistols or levering

[lavish bear]

l 1 am

[desert acorn]

Never used either one.

[lavish bear]

list goes on

[lavish bear]

its honestly to easy to get 6 star now

[desert acorn]

You mean like how in real life, a drooler with a pistol can still shoot a trained soldier?

[lavish bear]

i had a teammate the skill level of a 3 star in 6 star

[untold stag]

This isn’t a sim game tho so

[normal radish]

yeh nah, thats not really how you win against good players by solely relying on RNG. besides, the skill ceiling has dropped, and it means you gonna get anywhere between somewhat good to somewhat god in max mmr

[desert acorn]

It's the closest you get in a shooter about huntin' people.

[normal radish]

its harder to delineate the bracket that defines top now

[desert acorn]

Are you saying as a 6, you're not good enough to kill the scrubs before you get domed?

[lavish bear]

thats true but you can easily win by that especially with levering and fanning

[desert acorn]

Or that you hit traps, when for 1 trait point, you can negate them entirely?

[lavish bear]

you turn a corner and 18 shots fly at ur face

[normal radish]

sure thing, but imagine that in the hands of an actual good hunter

[normal radish]

i mean imma be real with you, it usually takes 2 max 3 in 1v1 fights

[desert acorn]

I'm a hardcore gamer 40+ years. The skill ceiling is still mighty high.

[normal radish]

you dont get to shoot that many bullets before your time is up even with avto

[desert acorn]

Granted, I don't do shooters anymore, but this game is nuts.

[normal radish]

it is compared to some

[lavish bear]

im convinced if u shoot the avto

ur garunteed a kill

[desert acorn]

Like what? Games that have been out 20 years?

[lavish bear]

w spelling bro

[normal radish]

if you shoot it before you die, yhe probably

[desert acorn]

I bet if I played starcraft Broodwar against a noob, it would be months before he could even break a basic rush.

[untold stag]

Not as high as something like Arc Raiders tho

[desert acorn]

Arc raiders apparently is boring their base already.

[lavish bear]

fanning mine aswell be a cheap avto

[normal radish]

arc raiders has real boring PVP though, ive tried. good game overal

[desert acorn]

People who suck at Hunt should be able to play against people who suck at hunt.

[lavish bear]

its only good when you have a bunch of stuff

[desert acorn]

Arc Raiders is also not First Person. So it lacks immersion.

[normal radish]

RNG god never favored me, i use hip very very sparesely

[desert acorn]

Me too. Got my first dualie kill in months today

[untold stag]

Game has no automatic guns outside the avto for a reason. The PvP is fun and interacting with semi automatic rifle. Example: vetterli. Vetterli duels are fun skillful and engaging. Fanning, levering, shotguns, dynamite bundles are cringe and skill-less, make the game boring.

[desert acorn]

Which is funny... my only other competitive shooter, dualies are my main.

[whole furnace]

Eh they still have insane player count and retained their player count since launch.
I will give Arc raiders credit for that :)

[lavish bear]

exactly

[normal radish]

its a good game

[desert acorn]

This game ain't close to boring. If you're bored, play it differently.

[normal radish]

but the PVP is boring

[lavish bear]

the big dyna bundle oh my lord bro

hand held nuke

[desert acorn]

And levering and fanning are "low-skill" and ineffective. The pros don't use them.

[desert acorn]

3 months ago?

[lavish bear]

because aim

its a really cool thing

[desert acorn]

Arc raiders hasn't been out long.

[normal radish]

the pros DO use them just not as a spam machine

[desert acorn]

Correct. They occasionally use them. As it should be.

[normal radish]

its used mostly for follow up

[untold stag]

Ah so approaching the boss compound with vetterlis and the team inside banishing the boss we find out has shotguns. Now we wait it out. That’s fun apparently.

[whole furnace]

Yeah I was gonna say, the PVP was the most generic 3rd person shooty I've played lol.
Just still bitter they didn't stuck to it being a co-op game instead :(

[desert acorn]

Vetterlis are shorter range. Pen needs long ammo. Bring something long ammo with fmj

Or, learn how to breach.

[lavish bear]

you cant do much to shotguns tbh

put slugs on an auto 5 you got a an unstoppable gun

[desert acorn]

Bring explosives, concertina arrows, hive bomb.

[normal radish]

co op only they would have HEAVY competition from helldivers. making it pvp,even lackluster brought in more players than you could count lol

[lavish bear]

who on earth is buying hive bombs

[whole furnace]

Still impressive, game like BF6 got reduced to a 10th of its playerbase (on steam) in 2 months.

[desert acorn]

Someone who wants to raid a compound that's full of shotguns

[lavish bear]

i dont think a hive bomb is stopping 3 shotguns

[untold stag]

Long ammo doesn’t matter I’m saying you don’t push a compound building if the enemy team has shotguns and you don’t. You wait it out and try to make them leave if you are lucky to have flashes and nades and if you don’t then it’s turtle time

[whole furnace]

Helldivers is fun, but not that fun for me to play anymore.
Wouldn't mind other options.

[lavish bear]

when people camp i usually either try for wallbangs

or just leave the fight

because its no fun to sit there for 10 minutes

[normal radish]

it may be my own opinion, but i think coop only games, however good. have a limit

on how long they survive

[untold stag]

Yep

[desert acorn]

https://steamdb.info/app/1808500/charts/'

Arc raiders has lost a bunch, in about the same time.

It's new. It's just not as good as Hunt.

[untold stag]

I was gonna try Helldivers but honestly if you want a coop shooter that doesn’t really get old try Darktide

[normal radish]

or DRG

[desert acorn]

Hunt will grow, and likely continue to grow as people hear about it for the first time.

Their marketing is among the worst I've ever seen.

[normal radish]

its gonna grow a bit

[whole furnace]

Yes and no, depends on a lot of factors and don't mind games to be over :)
Not everything have to be forever games.

[untold stag]

I like Darktide a lot because of how intense it can get at high difficulty and auric.

[desert acorn]

I've been a hardcore gamer since before the NES. Hunt is another Starcraft, or Ocarina of time. It's on that level.

[normal radish]

yeh, but some games tend to last longer, some shorter even though they are good

[untold stag]

I’ve been liking Overwatch 2 lately they added perks you choose in the match which spices it up

[normal radish]

valve has done the best in making long standing games

[untold stag]

My fav shooter right now is the finals

[lavish bear]

i've never seen anyone who plays ow2 aside from you icl

[desert acorn]

Yet they can't make Half Life 3?

[whole furnace]

Eh, dunno, think I liked Vermintide 2's flow over Darktide also disappointed about the absolute trash launch of that game.

[untold stag]

It’s fun

[lavish bear]

never played it so idrk

[normal radish]

they will

im sure

in at most 50 years

[untold stag]

Games nothing like it was at launch. There’s so much now with auric and havoc mode

[whole furnace]

Again, don't mind that, I have plenty of games in my backlog and at least with a co-op game, as long you have your buddies you can play it (+/- how scummy the devs are).
Compared to PvP games that can be a fleeting moment of an experience before it becomes unplayable.

[desert acorn]

Apart from Nintendo, Blizzard is the most significant gaming company in modern history. When I played Diablo 3, I was crushed with disappointment.

[whole furnace]

I've played it on and off since then, been a while since last time, but ain't in no hurry to return when I look at my backlog.

[desert acorn]

Overwatch was a fixture in pop culture and the player base was insane. Then they screwed the pooch with overwatch 2

[untold stag]

My fav shooter right now is the finals

[normal radish]

id say valve is the biggest most influencial

[untold stag]

I lik ow2 way better cuz it’s 5v5 so only one tank. The game is way better now than it was earlier

[normal radish]

its too late to matter

[untold stag]

Still has plenty of players

[normal radish]

marvel smash bros stole their playerbase

[desert acorn]

Starcraft was the first Esport. Warcraft 3 became Dota and LoL. World of Warcraft... Diablo 2 set the standard for rogue-lights.

[whole furnace]

played in the test and then some on release, but got stale real fast for me.
It is like, the okayest pvp experience for me.

[raven totem]

oh carry me papi

[desert acorn]

I still play Diablo 2. It's the best of the franchise.

[raven totem]

ow had some really cool concepts, the way it panned out over all isn't for me

[normal radish]

ow1 was nice

2 it flopped soo hard that i didnt even give it a proper chance lol

[desert acorn]

https://steamdb.info/app/2767030/charts/

Marvel Rivals can't keep players

[normal radish]

84 k bro

thats hella good

[untold stag]

You prob didn’t really get the game I was bored when it first came out too but I learned how the game actually works and it never gets old. But it got old when I first played it casually with my friends. It feels meaningless but when you learn the movement and how impactful gadgets and the destruction can be it’s super fun and complex

[desert acorn]

https://steamdb.info/app/2357570/charts/

Here's a much older game called a failure

[normal radish]

and it looks like one

[desert acorn]

definitely.

[untold stag]

Most overwatch playerbase is on blizzard launcher.

[whole furnace]

I got it plenty, just not a game that interest me.
Mostly the TTK is too high.

[desert acorn]

Correct.

So it's likely got more players than Rivals.

[untold stag]

Oh you like low TTK? That sucks

[desert acorn]

Actually, not sure about consoles.

[whole furnace]

Why?

[normal radish]

imma shed my doubts tbh

[untold stag]

Marvel rivals isn’t bad it’s just like a casual chill game tbh

[desert acorn]

definitely., And it's absolutely beautiful

[normal radish]

i dont play either though, i just got the geist of how these compare

[untold stag]

Cuz I hate games where you insta die. Feels like there’s less interactions and less interesting combat

[desert acorn]

I've been a marvel fan a LONG ass time, and the characters have some very awesome skins.

[desert acorn]

Hunt is the opposite of that.

[whole furnace]

For shooters I prefer it because it punish people who is bad a positioning.

[desert acorn]

https://activeplayer.io/overwatch-2/

that's... kinda nuts

[whole furnace]

Worst feeling in the world is to dome a chucklefuck who is just caught stupid in the open and they ain't punished for it.

[normal radish]

yeh hunt doesnt allow for alotta mistakes

[desert acorn]

Getting good is often about capitalizing fully on mistakes and little breaks. Whoever lives the longest after getting tagged.

[normal radish]

in fact i have learned that best time to exploit is when they make a mistake

[untold stag]

Unless we’re talking Winfield or vetterli fights where most of the time it’s 2 shots to kill and plenty of cover/healing to prolong fights. I got tired of games like siege and counter strike. Played them a ton but now I value games with high TTK and lots of movement (arena style shooters like quake)

[desert acorn]

Then there are other games for you

[whole furnace]

Also why I love Titanfall 2, because it means you can crank the movement tech up to 11 to compliment the low ttk.

[hardy coral]

Not impressive for some but this is the most I’ve ever had in a match.

[untold stag]

Arena style shooters are pretty dead is the issue

Biggest one is arguably the finals

[desert acorn]

Sorry... I tagged the wrong comment.

[untold stag]

Halo infinite is dead

Sort of

[stuck hatch]

The energy shields in hunt are the wood and sheet metal

[desert acorn]

You can see clearly Overwatch 2 isn't dead.

[stuck hatch]

Halo infinite 💀

It’s so sad how bad they fumbled that game

[desert acorn]

https://tracker.gg/valorant/population

Rivals is a fraction of the market. Valorant is king, then Overwatch 2

[normal radish]

titanfall2 is the PERFECT game that combines low ttk and high ttk of titan combat

[untold stag]

For sure. It’s pretty popular. It’s not an arena shooter really tho. I’m talking about how the arena shooter genre is niche and dead for the most part

[normal radish]

oh god id pay 200 dolalrs for a base tf3

[crystal bay]

Heck yea kill em

[whole furnace]

Word

[untold stag]

Titanfall 2 has movement similar to the finals which is awesome

[normal radish]

WROOOOOOONGF

[whole furnace]

lmao

[normal radish]

the finals movement is similar to tf2

[desert acorn]

Hmmm... What's the difference between Overwatch and an arena shooter?

[stuck hatch]

They need to just let halo go to sleep now, shoulda been put to sleep after reach

[desert acorn]

You talking about Death match?

[normal radish]

and ONLY similar

[whole furnace]

Finals wish it could move like TF2

[crystal bay]

I can't say I'm seeing much Hunt currently

<@&357256267087085568>

[desert acorn]

Or... they should have just made better halo games.

[whole furnace]

<@&357256267087085568>

[crystal bay]

Two of em

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403902499582509057/1426337718324957286/BonkChonk.gif

[desert acorn]

blocked.

That's coordinated

They must suck at the game.

[crystal bay]

Thank you

[desert acorn]

I'm gonna guess they were cheaters who got banned.

[whole furnace]

Many thanks

[stuck hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-blocked-message-1-ignored-message-gif-17092421089393899849

[desert acorn]

To be fair, they spammed the hell out of it

[stuck hatch]

1000 ignored messages

[normal radish]

that was like a macro

[desert acorn]

Definitely.

Strangely contradictory racism

[normal radish]

wonder how much they paid for those cheats to make them this mad

[stuck hatch]

What possesses people to be a lobotomite without actually having a lobotomy

[desert acorn]

Hopefully a lot.

[stuck hatch]

Smh

[normal radish]

lobotomite is a nice suitable word for em

[raven totem]

shock posting, could have been worse. the alarming thing is thats rare around these parts

[desert acorn]

We're mostly adults here. Hunt attracts older players, I think.

[stuck hatch]

Thank god

[desert acorn]

Except on Reddit... no idea what the hell goes on over there.

[normal radish]

yeh im among the younger peeps and im 26 lol

"to be 26"

[stuck hatch]

Mostly rage posting about the bounty target icon being changed

[normal radish]

in 10 days

[untold stag]

Arena shooters are usually fast paced, high TTK with an emphasis on movement and movement options like jump pads, high jumps, crouch sliding.

Quake for example is the quintessential arena shooter and what most mean when they say arena shooter.

Halo arguably is one as it has high TTK, movement options but it’s not very fast paced. Other than quake and halo there’s splitgate, the finals, tribes ascend, etc. all pretty niche or dead titles

[desert acorn]

I'm old enough that I became a gamer for life from the OG Zelda on the nes

[normal radish]

still not harold hide pair eligable

[normal radish]

quake IS the arena shooter

[desert acorn]

Yeah. They find something new. They started whining about flashlights, like that's a huge issue I've never even heard of until last week. Crytek must be doing a good job for them to whine about flashlights and a target-icon that they're probably gonna change back momentarily anyway.

[raven totem]

unreal was very good as well

[normal radish]

god the amount of fun i had in lan lobbies was ungodly

[normal radish]

yeh man but in some modes it outright felt like battlefront

[raven totem]

depends which one

[normal radish]

it had veee hickles and shit

[stuck hatch]

Yea lol. (Flashlight should come back for memes tho)

[normal radish]

i play 4 and the middle one

[desert acorn]

Okay... so Overwatch isn't a game I've played. Is the distinct roles of the heroes what makes it something other than an arena shooter?

[raven totem]

3?

[normal radish]

4 defo felt like a futurist war zone

[untold stag]

Yeah

[stuck hatch]

How’s concord doing these days

[normal radish]

probably, it didnt date back that much

[raven totem]

4 was epic only with the walljumps, it got cancled

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/sinking-salute-3-lads-boat-gif-4714213853319836924

[desert acorn]

Flashlight in Battlefield 6 is imbecilic. Broad daylight, some dude with a rifle at 30 feet blinds me with a flashlight.

[normal radish]

i had my joy playing it ngl

[stuck hatch]

Lmao

[normal radish]

thats high powered ray emitter for ya

[raven totem]

anywho, sippycups, why you come in here to only talk about other games? someone spank your butt in hunt?

[desert acorn]

"Battlefield simulator... flashlight mounted on gun, more deadly than bullets!"

[untold stag]

Sort of but it’s mainly because a lot of the heroes are fat and slow or they’re grounded/floaty, so the movement isn’t a big factor in it and there’s not a lot of free form gameplay as you need to coordinate with the tank and healer

[tawny depot]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Tgi1XdCXvU Me when I join the NAE servers

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-light-mode-discord-light-mode-cs-go-counter-strike-gif-25596696

[raven totem]

play trios

[desert acorn]

The cheaters are nuts, too, in BF6. Once there's an exploit, it takes them a week or weeks to fix it, and the whole time the game is a nightmare.

[raven totem]

ya unfortunalty duos is damn near dead dead

[stuck hatch]

Duos 💀

[normal radish]

dous is not dead

you just need to play it in trios

easy fix

[raven totem]

cran and I qued a match at like 8pm, got only one other team

[normal radish]

no shit

[raven totem]

ya the format in us servers at least is just, no one wants to play it.

[stuck hatch]

What if we did something funny and removed duos

[raven totem]

it's good for farming I guess because you typically fight one to two other teams than can farm or what eve

[normal radish]

trios was never dead

[brazen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/operation-teapot-nuke-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-test-nuclear-footage-gif-15618232923822161090

This would happen

lol

[stuck hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[desert acorn]

Replace soul survivor with solo-only mode.

[normal radish]

but

but

[desert acorn]

It's not a popular mode because they haven't added incentives.

[normal radish]

THATS ALREADY SOLO

[desert acorn]

It's a solo battle-royale

[normal radish]

yeh

[raven totem]

qp is, kill a 3star that spawned near you, then go 1v1 the only other 6 star in the match

[past compass]

Bounty clash is for fast PvP

[tawny depot]

yawn

[past compass]

soul survivor exist

[normal radish]

leave qp just as is

its okay

[untold stag]

Hunt needs a solo bounty mode I’m sorry. Sold survivor is corny and I want to use my legendary hunters in it.

[desert acorn]

put maybe 6 people on the map, so low mmrs have a place to kill each other, and then let them play solo. It'll be easier to learn environments without getting mopped by 1200 hour low-mmrs.

[raven totem]

I do think it's getting about time hunt to revamp it's game modes

qp and clash that is

[scarlet plinth]

I think a limited melee-mode event would be funny

[desert acorn]

Shooting range would be great.

[normal radish]

no it doesnt, its a team based game, with team based mechanics. and to cater to a playstyle that defies 8 years of legacy is not a logical thing to do

[scarlet plinth]

Agree? gets executed

[desert acorn]

Katana is objectively best melee. You'd have to remove martialist to make melee only work

[scarlet plinth]

Wong

Machete >

[raven totem]

I will say I think add random third was the nail in the coffin for duos

[normal radish]

when we got a melee that has a gun in it?

[desert acorn]

We're talking melee only.

[scarlet plinth]

Hunger Games shi

[desert acorn]

I realize the specter has a sword on it, and therefore a shotgun with a sword attachment beats a katana.

[untold stag]

Problem with bounty clash is you should be able to use your legendary hunters as a skin since it’s never worth risking taking one. They should also consider making the maps slightly larger (2compounds instead of 1) and maybe make it round based since it’s over way too quickly for the amount of preparation you need to put in.

[scarlet plinth]

What about the one on the martini?

[stuck hatch]

I feel like adding more game modes is not the best idea for player count.

We have qp, duos,trios, and clash already

[scarlet plinth]

qp?

:dumb:

[stuck hatch]

Soul survivor

[raven totem]

they've a lot of room to play with it, Idk about everything you're saying but it needs some kind of change for sure. crytek has a lot of options

[normal radish]

bomb lance

[scarlet plinth]

Oh

[normal radish]

is a melee

[desert acorn]

Poison arrows for pve, or concertina for fellow hunters as a solo?

[desert acorn]

bomblance is slower than a martialist strike, and shorter range.

[raven totem]

I think with where melee where it is, poison arrows are a waste

[normal radish]

"get lanced"

[desert acorn]

And since both are OHK, that's what matters

[untold stag]

I think round based would be way better. Like best of 3 for each team

[normal radish]

from range

[raven totem]

I'd like to see loadouts

one thing I'm super over in clash, is the mosin upper kd farmers

[normal radish]

round based hunt? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEHNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[untold stag]

And that. Also no one gets to use their legendary hunters unless they have dosh to blow

[desert acorn]

Maybe there's a bounty clash buy in. You get to set up a few default loadouts per buy in, and pick one per match in a series.

[untold stag]

For bounty clash, yes.

[normal radish]

oh just clash

nah ye maybe then

[untold stag]

Yes. I feel it’s too quick

[raven totem]

ya just clash, bh should stay as is in these regards

[untold stag]

You prepare so much for it

[desert acorn]

So you pay for the loadouts once, and then you get to play the matches with the loadouts.

[normal radish]

these are all big changes and shit

i want PERK loadouts

[desert acorn]

Bounty Hunt is literally a perfect game.

[stuck hatch]

Clash stinky

[normal radish]

i want loadouts to house perks

[raven totem]

idk about perfect but can't be taking the hunt out of hunt showdown

[normal radish]

exactly

[untold stag]

Just make it round based best of 3. If your team wins 2 in a row you win.

[whole furnace]

Dunno if it would fix clash, but it would at least be a clash I would be interesting in playing:

• Random legendary Hunter skin applied at the beginning the match (optional from all the faved skins a player have selected).
• Random pre-set loadout for every person on the team, but every team the same "set" of random pre-set loadouts.

Guess, the reward for extracting/winning would have to be lower, but you get basically free contraband loadout + loot for winning, so that seems fine.

[scarlet plinth]

Hmm

I wonder which hunter is closely resembling Ned Kelly

[normal radish]

thats soul survivorZ

[raven totem]

if they change anything, I just want meta shit out the window

[scarlet plinth]

[normal radish]

BATTLEROTAL SQUADS

[desert acorn]

There should also be wave-defense mode

[stuck hatch]

Bounty clash but everyone has to use muzzleloaders

[desert acorn]

single-shots only

[raven totem]

a pve mode I do think would be super beneficial to the game

[normal radish]

oh thats already in game. just get into the boss lair in a single boss map lol

[whole furnace]

Eh yes and no, no in-match looting, but it is more scrappy and "make do with what you are given", but it could prevent stale meta which is usually shotguns

[raven totem]

but that would be a crazy amount of work to not feel tact on, and crytek doesn't typically do tact on

[desert acorn]

Definitely. A single-player or co-op with objectives.

Noobs would be able to learn the game

[untold stag]

Crytek are a bunch of crybabies

[desert acorn]

BEFORE they enter the bayou and get murdered repeatedly.

[raven totem]

this is the largest thing easily

[normal radish]

hunt PVE only would suck ass in long term. but maybe a short tutorial mode

[raven totem]

hunt has such a bad retention rate

[normal radish]

but wait we have this already no?

[desert acorn]

It's got a GOOD tutorial

[lavish bear]

hey guys what did i miss

[raven totem]

something more expanded

[desert acorn]

It just needs a place to chill in the bayou without fear of random ohk from a hundred meters. I wait till everyone's gone, then get the wild bounty and wander the map for fun.

[untold stag]

Fortnite

[whole furnace]

On that note, I also think expanding bots wouldn't hurt.
Like BL0-11, forced bots, BL12-60 choose between matching humans or matching bot, BL60+ only human lobbies.
That would at least give people a little leeway if they feel they getting too quickly into the deep end.

[normal radish]

dont they match with bots already?

im almost positive they do

[whole furnace]

Only until BL11

[normal radish]

oh thats

3 matches at worst

[ancient cave]

and it's also only if you go solo and most people will be nervous to start off alone

[normal radish]

i mean, its one thing to mellow out entry to the game sure

but is hunt really mellow?

[whole furnace]

Eyup, also think transparency would be good.
Just tell people: From rank 1-11, you'll face bots after that you can choose to face other players until rank 60 where you are locked into PVP only.

[ancient cave]

they really shoulda rolled out those private matches they've been talking about for years with the bots. Would be better practice than shooting range

[untold stag]

Give solo players a little pet to follow them around and guide them

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-psychotic-dog-gif-3960950145450444849

[lavish bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1187100315749724241/1198643283891585105/image.gif

[normal radish]

but then again, mellowing out entry to the game could give the new players false image

from killing these supposed hunters left and right, they face real enemies and well you know how that goes

they might get frustrated/leave or start le cheats

[whole furnace]

Again that is why communication matters.
Rn I see a lot of posts going "I was playing well in the beginning, but then I hit rank 12 and now I'm just keep dying, what happend?" and people have to explain that they have been playing against bots until now.
Giving people clear messages and choices to opt-in/out doesn't hurt.

[normal radish]

doesnt it show it in the begining or anything?

its obscure?

[whole furnace]

Think most people will be eager to try PvP as soon they hit lvl 11, but then some might also think it is nice to maybe play some more bot matches to practice a little more if they get grinded down too hard.

[whole furnace]

Doesnt' say it all bc lol :V

[normal radish]

lol didnt know that

yeh i think a lil pop up "you are playing against AI" is the least they could do

[ancient cave]

games nowadays expect you to either join 3rd party sites/platforms for info or watch 3rd party tutorials instead of jsut playing the game tbh

[whole furnace]

And I hate it

The amount of digging I've done for this game to figure out shit

[ancient cave]

the issue is that'd go on the UI and often times if they touch the UI the game explodes

[normal radish]

kinda like all industries, yall remember when phones had charger, a headset, and glass guard with them. or laptops came in with bags, mouse, headphones, charger. now they barely send the product itself lol

[normal radish]

kinda like the pop up when you dont have medkit

[ancient cave]

I would be fine with buying more things if for example when I buy an electronic it works immediately

[normal radish]

chargers getting removed from phones will NEVER sit right with me

[ancient cave]

I do not move my art tablet away from it's spot at all to anything else because then I'll need to fiddle with like 4 different cords and 3 applications and like 2 drivers

[normal radish]

its like sending a marine into combat and expecting it to loot his gun

[normal radish]

latelY i ordered a new crossbow since mine is really old and low pondage, the sent it WITHOUT THE STRING

[ancient cave]

what the fucks the point

[whole furnace]

I have friends who knows their programming and keeps me up to date on the current neglect and decay of the MircrosoftOS system and it is legit concerning.

[normal radish]

companies are shrugging off responsibility that is theirs

relegating it

[normal radish]

its visible, even to somewhat naked eye

[whole furnace]

Sure but there are also some house of cards programming (or lack of) going on.

[ancient cave]

I'm gonna add onto this in compliments to crytek now thinking about all those app and driver pages
maybe it's good crytek is scared to mess with the UI because I think maybe my second biggest pet peeve is an entire website or app having it's whole fucking UI changed for no god damn reason like every other month. God forbid you start using something a year late because now the official video tutorial for it is fucking worthless

[normal radish]

like when i inquired about the string and said how am i gonna procure a string for 290 pondage crossbow, they said" purchase it from our affiliate"

[normal radish]

oh damn

sounds like something we might hear in news soon

[ancient cave]

the whole point of buying something that's manufactured is the pleasure of not having to mess with how you make it lol

[normal radish]

exactly

and i CANT make a string this strong like i dont have access to the tools

thats i paid EXTRA for it.

and that affiliate company they mentioned? best they had was 225 pounds

and a wrong length

so i basically purchased a toy at a steep price for now

[ancient cave]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-shake-head-shake-head-shake-my-head-gif-12112247105977815891

[normal radish]

i wonder if its as bad as it is here in EU, i mean my country has problems and i kinda get it.

[ancient whale]

"Spend more for less"

[trail spade]

Slowly going towards the Cp2077 ending

Dibs on being silverhand

[normal radish]

hehe i purchased delux edition, i will be GOLDEN HAND

[ancient cave]

if I could be a video game character I would be super mario

[normal radish]

you mean youd fights worlds of monsters and gain superpowers to, in the end, just get a lil kiss?

get brozoned?

[trail spade]

I would end up being 47 but without any of the skills. Just bald

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-the-office-giggle-laughing-cute-gif-12716870

[trail spade]

No jawline either :(

[ancient cave]

that is more than anyt hunt player will ever receive

[normal radish]

i mean. shoot your shot

ask peaches for a date at least

Mario defo knows those romantic italian places

[trail spade]

https://tenor.com/view/wario-mario-super-mario-bros-muscle-muscle-boy-gif-2747994966447264534

[ancient cave]

no I want to date a thwamp

or whatever th ey're called

I haven't played mario since I was like 12

[maiden crown]

i broke my record once again

32k xp in one game

solo duos

[normal radish]

i dont know what they are, but go get em tiger

[normal radish]

ain that like evil mario? wario or sth

[trail spade]

Yeah

W ario

Im really not a nintendo guy

[normal radish]

oh i remember him now lol, he had a fart attack

[normal radish]

me neither, but i love mario

[trail spade]

Can you imagine if people put half the hours of whatever they played the most into actual irl stuff ?

[normal radish]

i grew up on it

[normal radish]

they would go insane from no games and commint bad stuff

[trail spade]

Yeah but they would look like a Jojo character