hunt-general

[normal radish]

sure im in range

[urban steppe]

zamn so it is 35/36

[past compass]

technically

[normal radish]

that calc is dog shit

its 141 at 40 with hh

[past compass]

well

[past compass]

You did do the math

[mild flower]

Sure you're hitting the right body part with drop?

[normal radish]

yes

[past compass]

so it’s 128 at 40m without since with it was 141 and you mathed out 140.8 which rounds to 141
So it’s accurate my man

[frigid ibex]

Nice

[past compass]

^

Not you it was dizz lol

[normal radish]

i meant it in a way that it doesnt count the hh, not that its calculating wrong or whatever

[past compass]

oh yeah

[normal radish]

also i tested with normal arrows

not poison

its 34/36. average is 35 as said

WHICH IS pretty insane

[past compass]

Poison does less right?

[normal radish]

it does more

[past compass]

Idk never used them since they seem garbage

[turbid dock]

Xqc and shroud

Holy shit

That's hilarious

I love it

[opal dawn]

God I hope they run into Scumge

[normal radish]

it one taps at 36

[urban steppe]

my thoughts exactly

[radiant karma]

lmao post malone with xqc and shroud. That is going to be a cursed stream

[frigid ibex]

they should be low stars unless shroud kept playing secretly

[normal radish]

imma match up my play hours with em, see if i can queue with them, that is if they are top bracket.

[urban steppe]

its a silent 2 slot that out performs full length shotguns for 1 tapping
not to mention it procs bleed for pressure

[past compass]

I mean not really
It’s low velocity with drop so it’s pure skill to get a kill with how

[opal dawn]

Wow Dizz, you ALWAYS stomp on my dreams

[urban steppe]

The velocity and drop isnt' an issue if you are 1 tapping within 30-35m....

[frigid ibex]

Draw time and mobility drawbacks should be considered into the bow is op talk

[normal radish]

its pure skill to do that with anything. bow has its own niche

[past compass]

Given you’re the easiest headshot ever
Yeah

[frigid ibex]

I mean just trying to think logically here

If no one is aware of you and you get to do the first shot, any weapon has the advantage

[whole furnace]

It is a drawback, but not big enough to compsate of all the good stuff it gets

[normal radish]

its strong sure, but man its not as strong as the headache "SOME" people give me about the bow. i wounldnt mind seeing it tuned of course, i find it strong too

[frigid ibex]

people always put the bow in this situation

[wide whale]

Buff chu ko nu.
Since we're talking about whats op and what isn't 🙄

[urban steppe]

Drawtime borderline irrelevant, even if you aren't at full draw, you are still 1 tapping to the torso easily

[past compass]

And the tradeoffs are mobility
Single shot
Low velocity
Actual drop at that range
and no wall banging

[frigid ibex]

you don't get that "insane" one tap range if you don't full draw

[echo ridge]

which gun is the most fannable

[past compass]

Yeap

I’ve actually died to that a lot

[opal dawn]

You literally draw it back, so yeah, it has some drawback

[past compass]

Not drawing enough and not one tapping them
Only to catch a bullet in return

[normal radish]

i see what you did there

[frigid ibex]

so real

[normal radish]

you cant hide it

[wicked fox]

Haymaker

[raven totem]

it never is

[past compass]

Lemat?

[normal radish]

dolch, you can even use fanning in ADS

[raven totem]

because they don't understand

[echo ridge]

anything budgetable ?

[echo ridge]

ah ok

[urban steppe]

The only issue is "mobility"
Single shot?
You can easily load in another arrow much faster than reloading other single shot weapons.
You don't need it at full charge to 1 tap within extremely close ranges
Drop and velocity are borderline irrelevant within 25-30m

[normal radish]

and you dont even need the perk

[past compass]

except they’re not borderline irrelevant?

[hasty wharf]

i'd say conversion pistol or pax trueshot are the best fanning options.

[urban steppe]

in order for drop and velocity to matter with the bow
you have to be shooting it out of its 1 tap range

[echo ridge]

noted

[past compass]

between when you release the arrow and when it lands if then Hunter changes their strafe movement
You miss

[urban steppe]

be fr

[echo ridge]

[urban steppe]

that's with any other gun.....

unless you are using what long ammo/high velo/spitzer

🤦‍♀️

[frigid ibex]

Realistically you contest people that can have an internal magazine and a faster cycle speed than the bow. in the bow ranges people wouldn't use their sparks but their dolch p, or a shotgun that is usually repeating

[raven totem]

pax fmj has good wallbang breakpoints but the accuracy keeps me away from it

[past compass]

except it’s worse with the bow, since it’s like 220mps velocity

[crystal bay]

Most guns shoot a bullet much faster than an arrow

[hearty geode]

Krytek pls add maxim gun

[normal radish]

most guns, i know which gun doesnt lol

[frigid ibex]

nitro shredder can one tap at absurd ranges and people here are just but my bow is op at 34m

[past compass]

And also not at 30m
Even from 200 to 300 that’s 50% reduces lead required

[inland stump]

bow gets harder to hit after 20

[frigid ibex]

you can even A D A D dance jump with nitro shredder

bow can't even dream of that

[past compass]

What’s the slug oneshot range for Romero

or auto 5 for that matter

[normal radish]

14

[urban steppe]

^

[hasty wharf]

meanwhile bow gets arm/leg oneshots while nitro doesn't

[frigid ibex]

I just find romero slug to be over expensive, I can specter with slugs

[past compass]

No way is it 14

[inland stump]

romero slug is good for trying headshots

[frigid ibex]

wasn't that 10m and lower?

[inland stump]

got like 30m headshot on clash the other day

[frigid ibex]

You're close to contesting pennyringer at that range

[normal radish]

it is 14

[past compass]

I could’ve sworn Romero slug was like 18

[normal radish]

on specter and long barrels

[hasty wharf]

romero/crown slug chest oneshot is 15.5m

[main flint]

Are we gonna have xQc and Shroud collab characters now

[normal radish]

romero is MAAAYBEE 15

[inland stump]

im pretty sure enemy was more than 25+

[past compass]

Replied to wrong person lol

[urban steppe]

no, you are at most pushing 15-16 with romero

[inland stump]

are we gonna have xQc and shroud engravings on guns now?

[past compass]

Been outta the shotgun loop lmao

[urban steppe]

which was why I said the bow outclasses any shotgun for 1 tapping at an absurd distance

[past compass]

I mean

[urban steppe]

bow: 35-36
shotgun: 14-15

[past compass]

except in boss lairs lol

[urban steppe]

🤔

[past compass]

or buildings

I’d much rather auto 5 than bow

[summer geyser]

Xqc and shroud and post malone!!!! Whaaat

Insane

[past compass]

Or specter

[summer geyser]

That's gonna be great exposure for hunt

[normal radish]

insanely cringe yup

[inland stump]

yeah but bow can't pen, gets stuck even in a small cover

[summer geyser]

Why is it cringe?

[thin fable]

gotta pick the two most well known Hunt Streamers, xqc and shroud

[opal dawn]

Cuz xqc and shroud are both cringe people

[summer geyser]

Xqc and shroud are both great creators

[urban steppe]

yeah but all of those guns are 2-3 tapping you unless they hit a head

you have multiple chances to land a 1 tap while they attempt to mow you down

[past compass]

No!

[astral moss]

Lol i come back and i see this message.

[past compass]

Dude I’ve died so many times in the bow reload time

we both fire
He lands I miss
he gets 2nd shot first so it’s now in his ballgame

[normal radish]

shroud literaly dissed hunt and badmouthed it, xqc i havent seen him do 1 decent hunt stream and most palone is mid ahh players, its like arina grande adele and lady gaga playing this stream. exposure right but its cringe

[past compass]

Or im drawn and catch a shot to the dome because im moving like my legs are broken

[hasty wharf]

Has xqc even played the game more than like once ever? I know shroud wasn't really into the game but at least he's played it a handful of times

[urban steppe]

that might just be you
I go to full draw behind cover
pop out shoot
rotate
repeat

[normal radish]

both played this game like twice

got gutted

left in a puddle of tears

[urban steppe]

if guys are pushing me, I just bounce a frag arrow off the roof or whatever and run

they can't push me without getting hit by said frag

[past compass]

frags are scarce now lol

[inland stump]

reason they never played is prob because its harder

[astral moss]

For one time i agree with the complainer of this server.

[past compass]

I do not use any scarce ammo in discussions ever

[hasty wharf]

I mean, they still exist, though. It's not like they were removed from the game.

[urban steppe]

I don't think frag is that rare

[frigid ibex]

if you full drawn behind cover and peak you get instant headshot in my lobby

[normal radish]

it IS

[past compass]

Yeap

[hearty geode]

I never find frag bolts

[frigid ibex]

and if they don't know about you, you could've just done the same thing with the whole arsenal of hunt showdown

[past compass]

if I peak my brains are usually erased

[hearty geode]

I went from hating bow users to begrudgingly using them to mostly using them

[urban steppe]

Damn
I find explosive/frag quite often in the big tower

guarenteed 2 box spawns up there

[hearty geode]

Every time I find blademancer that hunter automatically becomes an archery guy

And in that time I have not once found frag bolts

[normal radish]

well they are scarce anyhow so you gotta find them there anyway

[hearty geode]

Where is the big tower

[quartz obsidian]

algun español o latino parajugar hunt somos 2

[normal radish]

imagine bladmancing lit frag arrows back to your pocket

[urban steppe]

the really big fire watch towers with a ton of glass

uh

These always spawn with 2 boxes

top and bottom of table

[normal radish]

is that an american ton? since there is like 5 windows on it and thats like 20 killos man

[urban steppe]

[normal radish]

notice you said "a" ton hence the joke lol

[hearty geode]

Eh but I still never find frag

[astral moss]

And the dream team of streamer will play on normal server ?

[urban steppe]

yeah but once you memorize where the custom ammo box spawns are

it becomes a lot more easy to get
ie the special areas in mammons

[normal radish]

probably in 3 stars

[hasty wharf]

putting them into bot lobbies 🥀

[normal radish]

i agrees

[urban steppe]

I'm built different

[astral moss]

Obviously.

[main flint]

I get headshoted through 2 walls and they're probably not even cheating 🥀

Or headshoted in the air when I jump to peek around a corner

[astral moss]

They are gonna get omega stream hack.

[random nimbus]

Shroud should pull them up, but yeah they'll probably get bot lobbies for appearances

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-exploding-black-cat-cute-cute-cat-gif-11526660326797842323

[urban steppe]

mammons especially has A LOT of natural ammo swap boxes spawn
a bunch in the main mine area
and like 2 in the upper brick tower at one of the compounds

scarce ammo is not that scarce

aforementioned towers all contain 1

[normal radish]

yeh you have access to a lot of supplies

[astral moss]

They will be in 3* lobby anyway, don't think the dev are gonna put them in the sweaty mosin/dolch lobby for a promo stream.

[frigid ibex]

didn't he quit after a few games? he should be low rank

[royal cloak]

Why is there a lot of challenges for krampus

[normal radish]

shroud will pull them up from the gutter, up to 3 stars at most

[random nimbus]

Won't last. Shroud is a super sweaty type of player and will carry on aim out of the initial ranks

[astral moss]

Cause you should earn it.

[astral moss]

Did we got a shroud fan boy in the chat ?

[random nimbus]

I hate him

[normal radish]

hella doubt

[royal cloak]

Then i shouldnt be paying for it

[frigid ibex]

His main complaints was lowered crosshairs so he got nothing to blame this time

[urban steppe]

isn't like post malone 5 or 6 stars though

[random nimbus]

He's a crybaby

[normal radish]

personal

[urban steppe]

I'm pretty sure post said he was high elo

[normal radish]

not team

[urban steppe]

during the last stream

[normal radish]

then he cappin

[royal cloak]

But i do like krampus so it isnt that bad

[random nimbus]

The highest mmr person will pull the rest up more than the others down anyway

[astral moss]

Lol 4-5* is "high elo" when you want to ego.

[urban steppe]

if xqc and shroud are 3s and post is 5 or 6
they gonna end up in the 4 star bracket

[urban steppe]

I thought he was 5 or 6

😆

[astral moss]

Mmmmmh, no ?

[inland stump]

i dont think it matters tbh, i got 4 to 6 star lobbies when i started playing the game

mmr doesnt make a difference with the lack of players

[random nimbus]

Far from it. Dude fell off and rides on Peanut lately

[frigid ibex]

If they are lucky they get to meet the mega sweats so they have some competition

[normal radish]

id put them in 3.5 match

[urban steppe]

yeah that's what I thought from my experience

either he gets put into a lobby of genuine 3s and pubstomps

or his friends get dragged into 4+

[whole furnace]

Mods ban this man for bully! 😭

[royal cloak]

Mistake on my part

[astral moss]

It still put you against player with the same mmr of your team.

[frigid ibex]

Excused cause it was delivered good

[urban steppe]

dependent on when you play

[normal radish]

it allows for leeway

[urban steppe]

if you play at off hours

that rule does not apply

[frigid ibex]

im usually anti grug

[random nimbus]

Ehhh, we've had 1.5 team mmr difference a lot in our lobbies. But that's likely from just low pop in those elos

[normal radish]

even on a fully populated server it has leeway upwards

[urban steppe]

^

[inland stump]

idk i tried solo, duo, trio w randoms/friends

seen 0 difference

[opal dawn]

It's always nice that Dizz has my back 🙏

[inland stump]

there is simply not enough people playing to ever make a difference on MMR

[frigid ibex]

don't test me

[normal radish]

i bet anti grug means he doesnt

[random nimbus]

We'd have full 6* mmr and see duos with 4.5

We actually saw a solo player for the first time in a while the other day

He got clapped

[normal radish]

i dont expect otherwise

[frigid ibex]

he should try lfg

[normal radish]

solos get clapped

[frigid ibex]

you can find teammates there

[whole furnace]

Tough but fair

[inland stump]

i got into a match with a free hunter, blow myself up to watch, saw a solo with a silenced nagant and baseball bat

he wiped the compound team then got murdered

[frigid ibex]

who murdered him

[urban steppe]

yeah. I don't think hunt has enough players to support "fair" match making based on mmr unless you are playing at peak hours

from personal experience
if you are high 3 or in 4
you get lumped in with 5 or 6 at off hours 😆

[inland stump]

another trio

[random nimbus]

A solo player getting matched against full 6* team mmr trios is pretty nuts

[frigid ibex]

why did you turn it into a murder mystery

[inland stump]

whoever that king was, you are my champion

his hunter was monroe

[astral moss]

The solo might be really high 6* for this to happen.

[frigid ibex]

fits

[inland stump]

got inside the compound from the chimney

got 3 kills with bat

[frigid ibex]

I've met trios of high 6* as solo and im not even close to high 6*

[random nimbus]

The match we had him was definitely not the kind of performance to stay there lol he did kill 2 people with a bornheim tho, but I killed him once and he died a second time to a random team

[frigid ibex]

I always wanted to do a chimney push but I never have kiteskin when i have the opportunity

[inland stump]

whenever i see a 6* on my matches, they always go to compound, concertina everywhere then die

[echo ridge]

how the hell yall view stars

[normal radish]

hunt makes room for mmr improvement UPWARDS at 4 star. so if you hit 4 star match mmr you gon get tested\

[frigid ibex]

post lobby, team details

[echo ridge]

ok

thanks

[normal radish]

thats very specific though

[inland stump]

its been last 3 clash + 2 bounty hunt matches, saw all 6* trios

doing the same shit

[urban steppe]

This
when I am in 4, its just lobbys of 5s and 6s
no 4s in sight

[random nimbus]

Barbed Wire Billies are very specific

[urban steppe]

imo barbed wire isn't allat in current hunt

[normal radish]

yeh and it starts at 4. the ritual of might. and if you fail you get bonked back to 3.5

[inland stump]

it doesn't work if other teams doesn't push like its black friday

[urban steppe]

I felt this

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/i-felt-that-gabriel-iglesias-gabriel-iglesias-legend-of-fluffy-i-can-relate-netflix-gif-13432471184424382343

[random nimbus]

Chances are the wire is carrying them more than their actual performance. They might not be able to keep that kind of mmr without wire controlling choke points and bodies

[inland stump]

its not even chokepoints, its everywhere man

[normal radish]

actualy i never felt the impact of mmr truly, till someone else explained it to me and i tested it through my lil brother

[urban steppe]

its never worth it to do the chimney push at ironworks

there's a static lamp spawn at the bottom
all someone has to do is put 1 wire trap down there and its over for you

you jump down and burn off at least 1 bar and get put into the 1 tap zone with no way out

[frigid ibex]

at least I'd get to experience it and say no i will never do this again

I haven't done it once yet

[random nimbus]

It is when you have it everywhere. It's more of an extremely annoying hindrance for everyone, but it does make it extremely hard to push places when it's constantly reapplied

[urban steppe]

atp its easier to just push the newly added side doors

[normal radish]

chimney push is viable if you arrive on time before prep

[urban steppe]

that get you onto ground level at iron

[polar ridge]

Santa's coming to town anyway. With a hammer.

It's stupid and it never works.

[frigid ibex]

yeah but those are just doors, dropping into chimney is cool

[inland stump]

he did so good too tbh, a team wipe with a chimney jump

legendary

[astral moss]

Me still stuck in high 6* since 600 hours.

[random nimbus]

Concertina arrows and ammo boxes make loading places with wire very easy

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/down-the-chimney-jimmy-fallon-rockefeller-christmas-santa-claus-dive-gif-19416534

[urban steppe]

yeah, it doesn't help that there's always an oil lamp that spawns down there

so you are incentivized to put 1 wire trap there to detonate it on impact 😆

[frigid ibex]

what if I press f on it before the wire detonates

im still a sitting duck

but at least im not burning yet

[normal radish]

you will still have bleeding cheeks

[urban steppe]

we might have to switch to putting an alert down there with a red barrel...

[random nimbus]

Taco bell moment

[urban steppe]

the wire will slow them down + the chimney only has 1 exit so you are a sitting duck at 1 tap to chest hp

[inland stump]

did anyone get a value out of poltergeist?

[random nimbus]

I like poltergeist

[frigid ibex]

um what if I have uhhhhh choke bomb and basically announce that im dropping? I'm at least not blowing up!

[normal radish]

a lot, needs a coperating teammate

[random nimbus]

Most value I've gotten from it is unexpected door opening for things like nades

Or closing them to screw over enemies throwing out

[urban steppe]

I just rotate out and hardscope the exits with wire
they have to break the wire to leave, leaving them exposed if they use a melee to swing

if they run through it, they will most likely take enough damage to be downed by a torso hit with long ammo

[astral moss]

No + don't listen to Venom he is crazy.

[urban steppe]

[inland stump]

ima go sit in boss compound, using poltergeist ringing bells and closing windows

[wide whale]

Is there a public spreadsheet with oneshot distances etc that's maintained?
Couldn't find one in pins 😄

[frigid ibex]

If you meet sweats that did the banish, they will just stand on top of the roofs

[light sky]

I got value out of shadow leap, like 3 times total since it got added

[frigid ibex]

and mosin spitzer you as you try to approach the compound

[light sky]

I haven't picked Poltergeist, at best 2 times

[random nimbus]

Yes, but that just slows the match to a stall and I don't think most people are that patient. What's likely happening, imo, is one person dies trying to kill the wire team, gets coated in wire and can't be revived, and the rest either leave or just yolo push and die.

[cursive magnet]

don't forget that there's like 5 more brackets within 6*. Imagine that it goes up to like 12 stars, but six of them are hidden within 6.

[astral moss]

lol 6 is a bit too much to say.

[inland stump]

you start the game, play randoms everyone's 3*

[astral moss]

Maybe 3.

[inland stump]

get a solo 6*, who will slit your throat while spitting on your teammates face

[cursive magnet]

nobody knows, but the skill gap in 6* is way too large

[urban steppe]

tru
unless my randoms are up to waiting it out

just dip

[random nimbus]

A solo 6 among 3s is at least more understandable than a solo among 6* team mmr

[urban steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9jNXigh9Nno

the method:

[astral moss]

Idk all random with me or against me feel like they don't belong in this mmr anyway.

[frigid ibex]

do you get the kill?

[random nimbus]

I'd just dip too. It's not worth the wait, and losing to that kind of nonsense is extremely frustrating

[frigid ibex]

why is the current content creator trend to play like rats

[quasi marsh]

question, does it have to be exactly 50m?

[astral moss]

Me when i can just place my trap better:

[urban steppe]

yeah

[inland stump]

my favorite gif

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-game-gaming-joke-funny-gif-6248998952605697228

[astral moss]

50 or more.

[urban steppe]

he is being SMART

[frigid ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O2i206ciCnU

[frigid ibex]

well it's the least cringe play i've seen lately

[urban steppe]

missing the 1 dude with a hammer throw prepped

[random nimbus]

Now if I win against a team of Barbed Wire Billies, I'm gonna be talking MAD shit

[inland stump]

I tried the high striker on solo match, a fucking 6* solo mf immediately blew it up

[urban steppe]

😾 but where is the funny

[random nimbus]

I take Vigilant for nonsense like that

[frigid ibex]

it's not that clip

[inland stump]

yeah just watched it lol

[frigid ibex]

he's following a trend of cringe satchel plays :(

[inland stump]

bro didn't even had vigilant, he just walked all over the place disarming my traps

i just wanted to try once

[astral moss]

We are playing hunt, no fun allowed.

[random nimbus]

Not even once.

[thin fable]

are you putting your traps in the usual trap spots

cause people expect that

[urban steppe]

I'm glad you didn't witness my fumble at miner's folly last night LOL

I botched a big dynamite bundle throw from the 2nd floor of the brick building outside
had it land indoors so I had to make a hasty evac out a window

Jumped back in and sprayed down 2 guys with my levering winnie though

I could not see a thing due to the smoke from the Big D.
I just dragged my cursor in a straight line horizontally and fished for hitmarkers LOOOL

[inland stump]

nah, it was one time one on highstriker and one on trait side of the circus and one was between the stalls

[frigid ibex]

when it works, it works

[urban steppe]

😾

[frigid ibex]

that doesn't sound cringe though

[urban steppe]

massive brain play to fish for hitmarkers using the horizontal line method

[inland stump]

what do you fellas name your loadouts, out of ideas rn

[frigid ibex]

I would've missed those shots

[random nimbus]

The weapons themselves

[frigid ibex]

I just name them hej, hejhej, hejj, asdasd, asd

(gibberish)

[random nimbus]

I'm very organized with my loadouts

[frigid ibex]

you can be organized in an unorganized mess

[inland stump]

çsdfmgçsdfös

nice loadout name

[frigid ibex]

go with that

[random nimbus]

I just wish I could move them around in the slot placements without needing to keep a copy of them on a maxed hunter

[urban steppe]

You just gotta practice
I use this a lot when I gotta push the 2nd floor of some barn or whatever

I always go from the side with the least amount of space since I know I have to use the least amount of fmj winnie ammo to fish for guys

[echo ridge]

it been a good 45mins , im trying to get a bounty clash win with dual pistol only

🥀

[urban steppe]

shoot at chest height to ensure no one is hiding up there as fmj winnie bullets pen almost everything

[frigid ibex]

I would aim too high and miss everything

[urban steppe]

and then its safe 2 push

[frigid ibex]

I greed for head height but I probably over aim

[urban steppe]

I go for chest height
shoot bottom of window I'm vaulting to disable trap
throw conc bomb down the hall to block off guys trying to rush up

and aim at the closest staircase up

incase someone pushes

foolproof + guys are funneled into the bottom floor

[lofty thorn]

please explain this

[frigid ibex]

why didn't you heal :(

[quaint helm]

hey im in this clip

[quaint helm]

ngl i think theres more pressing matter

[astral moss]

This = explained.

[frigid ibex]

you're famous now

[quaint helm]

its still their head

[frigid ibex]

you might've killed them if you had penny

[urban steppe]

not enough pellets hit their head

[lofty thorn]

right

[urban steppe]

never aim for the head with buckshot

always go for upper torso

to avoid that exact scenario

[frigid ibex]

center mass is the best bet with buckshot

[urban steppe]

^

[frigid ibex]

you want as many pellets hit the body

[astral moss]

He is not even on the head lmao.

[lofty thorn]

what did it hit then

[frigid ibex]

possibly 2 pellets

[astral moss]

Yeah you are lucky its a shotgun.

[frigid ibex]

maybe 3

[thin fable]

it depends.

The one that carries all mines/traps with Frontiersman I call Minecraft.

The one with a lot of throwable explosives I call the Unabomber

The one with many hive bombs I just call Dr. Bees

[frigid ibex]

you can get a hitmarker if you only hit 1 pellet

which doesn't deal much damage by itself

[fallow chasm]

consolation shotgun hitmarker cuz spread - not enough to kill

[inland stump]

Unabomber is great

[inland stump]

I had one Local Florida Man, springfield 86 and bow

[thin fable]

most of my loadouts are just tools and consumables

[jaunty patio]

Here's the updated one for 2.0

[lofty thorn]

surely quite a few pellets must have hit then

[inland stump]

romero hatchet my beloved

[urban steppe]

yeah, but not enough to 1 tap which is why you gotta aim center mass

[urban steppe]

😿
they did the slate so dirty

costs more than the spectre
marginally faster rof
worse spread

[frigid ibex]

slate is medium sized barrel

[urban steppe]

😿

[frigid ibex]

it's not dirty

[astral moss]

Lol the bomb lance is so miss leading that's funny.

[frigid ibex]

slate was also meta shotgun for years

we can't pretend it's been ass since it came out

specter recently got suepr buffed out of the blue, that's the issue.

[urban steppe]

I don't think it was that meta since the clown and king was within its price range

[astral moss]

Btw the drilling having a romero is absolute BS.

[frigid ibex]

it was the most played shotgun

[urban steppe]

I've always preferred the spectre
even before the buff

[frigid ibex]

last time crytek dropped weapon usage stats

[urban steppe]

mostly bcuz flechette ammo

[frigid ibex]

slate was number one shotgun

[urban steppe]

😆

HUH

but the clown did the job better back then

[inland stump]

hows flechette ammo btw

never used it

[frigid ibex]

no, slugs was op on slate

[urban steppe]

you have to think

[frigid ibex]

this was before slug nerf

[urban steppe]

oh that makes sense

cause I was thinking

[frigid ibex]

still part of slate being most played and op

[random nimbus]

Medium barrel slugs were bonkers back then

[urban steppe]

flechette crown was the superior pick

[frigid ibex]

I don't like when people downplay weapons that was TOP DOG and pretend it's always been lack luster

[inland stump]

i always think flechette as if its same in tarkov

[frigid ibex]

people did that with upeprcut

[urban steppe]

its been lackluster for me because the spectre with flechettes was simply better imo

[random nimbus]

I love how people thought the uppercut price nerf would have any effect on it

[frigid ibex]

The issue is: Specter got buffs it didn't need.
Not that: Slate is bad cause specter got ridiculously buffed

I don't like how people don't immedietly think, huh maybe we should revert that specter buff

[random nimbus]

The specter buff was 100% unnecessary

[urban steppe]

flechettes require a different gameplay style in hunt

because you are sacrificing your ability to 1 tap in most scenarios with having a tighter pellet spread which procs bleed

[random nimbus]

Flechette got power crept by dum dum, imo

[frigid ibex]

Flechettes normally don't one tap in tarkov? I think. In my experience you spam someone until they die in tarkov with flechette. It will eventually destroy their armor even if it's high tier

[crystal bay]

Flechette got nerfed because of C&K

[astral moss]

You should put the one shot range beside each weapon.

[crystal bay]

otherwise flechette was pretty solid

[random nimbus]

Why bother with spread when I can just hit them directly and do intense bleed?

[frigid ibex]

I've killed killa with flechette

[crystal bay]

Terminus Flechette was a monster

[frigid ibex]

I just spam them with a saiga

[inland stump]

it doesn't in certain scenarios, but idk for rn

since i havent been on tarkov about a year

[urban steppe]

the fool aims for armor
the big brained rat goes for the unarmored ankles

[inland stump]

yeah always the legs

ahahahah

[frigid ibex]

You're right

[urban steppe]

no point wasting shots on armor

[frigid ibex]

but I can't unlearn aiming center mass or higher

[urban steppe]

shoot out their legs

and then steal their armor

[random nimbus]

Especially with things like the Springfield compact actually being usable. Just run dumdum on it for ranged bleed

[urban steppe]

😆

[frigid ibex]

it feels weird to aim for legs

[inland stump]

you can't damage the armor that you are gonna steal

[frigid ibex]

my brain can't comprehend that

[urban steppe]

SHRMP pistol to the legs

[inland stump]

leg players on tarkov are different breed

[frigid ibex]

lerii turned into a dumdum abuser

[inland stump]

ppsh41 w drum

[urban steppe]

😼

[random nimbus]

Only against people I had no clue were behind me

[frigid ibex]

snowy point at him more

[random nimbus]

[urban steppe]

yeah I used to run terminus hc with flechette and levering with my sparks

sparks poison bullet tag

• flechette spray

easy kills within 50m

[frigid ibex]

I do find it funny that flechette was considered ok at most, and then they gave it to crown out of the blue and had to nerf it

[random nimbus]

I hated that loadout

Too little pen

[urban steppe]

that's why I got 3 beetles

[random nimbus]

It's EVIL

[random nimbus]

[urban steppe]

I almost never lose when I run this

[inland stump]

beetles are under appreciated imo

[random nimbus]

Beetles need to stay underappreciated

[urban steppe]

the only times I've died with this loadout is if guys can out shoot me with a rifle

past compound range 😆

competing with sparks silenced past a certain range is no bueno

[inland stump]

4x beetles just to scumfuck that guy sitting in a corner

[urban steppe]

^

yeah, I tag with sparks and beetle if they try to hide behind a corner for cover

[random nimbus]

Not just people in corners. Just chasing someone that's tagged

[urban steppe]

^

[inland stump]

I didn't know how powerful beetle was until I got attacked by 4 beetles

poison + bleeding is crazy

[urban steppe]

best counter to beetles is unironically buckshot shotgun imo

shoot them out of the sky

[inland stump]

its easy to shoot them

[urban steppe]

all you need is 1 pellet

[inland stump]

but if you aren't expecting and in a building

so annoying

i love it

[urban steppe]

^

[raven totem]

oh shit saw an auto 4 final

he died in the mud

[urban steppe]

😿

if he also had a silenced sparks

that might be me

[raven totem]

because it's so fucking oppressive

[inland stump]

i picked up a silenced spark w poison one time

it was so good

[random nimbus]

Me and MrAmogus ran a bunch of beetles right after they got buffed

[inland stump]

im addicted to prestiging rn so i cant really unlock everything by the time i hit 100

[random nimbus]

Just chasing people down with them nonstop whole teams were fighting each other

It was super degenerate

Like, legit the dumbest way to actually win a fight.

[urban steppe]

I'm guilty of doing that

[random nimbus]

Nerf the damn thing back to 25 please

[twilit folio]

oh my god

beetles?

[random nimbus]

50 damage is too much

[twilit folio]

I literally had one team do it all at once

[royal cloak]

Chasing is fun

[twilit folio]

trios

boom

boom

boom

fire beetles

[inland stump]

gotta bully someone with it

[random nimbus]

We did it to teams that were already fighting

[twilit folio]

lmao

[random nimbus]

Absolutely 0 risk to us

Just fly in and start blowing up. End up with 3 kills and push the last poor soul that just got blown up on

[urban steppe]

when are they adding beetle skins

[random nimbus]

I hope beetles stay forgotten because they have the capacity to ruin the game at their current strength

[urban steppe]

^

coordinated team with long ammo rifles and beetles

= you can't win

1-2 guys shoot to distract and tag

[twilit folio]

lord

[normal radish]

they aint forgotten

[urban steppe]

while the remaining guys fly beetles in

[twilit folio]

they’re just

bomb drone

so

[random nimbus]

The only option is to hide in choke cloud areas

[inland stump]

i mean most people use it, immediately get spotted due to throwing it close to themselves

[normal radish]

they just need a good team

[random nimbus]

Or fire

Nah, they don't need a good team at all.

[urban steppe]

^

[normal radish]

we run beetle bombin sessions almost all the time

[random nimbus]

You just need a distraction

[urban steppe]

I play with randoms and it works just fine

[twilit folio]

it’s easy to use

[urban steppe]

that's where my randoms come in LOL

[normal radish]

oh just normal beetling?

[twilit folio]

it’s surveillance

[normal radish]

no extra warheads?

thats easy yeh

[twilit folio]

and offense

[inland stump]

you can choke windows to push in

[random nimbus]

They obviously don't work in close range unless you're a madman, but any ranged poke battle, they're a tumor

[urban steppe]

yeah but you have limited chokes that don't last forever

vs guys who can just sit and wait it out

[twilit folio]

tumor in general

[urban steppe]

before sending in the beetle

[twilit folio]

at the very least

[random nimbus]

God forbid a trio third parties you with them

[inland stump]

its more so just to choke window so you dont get shot while pushing the door

[twilit folio]

they know where you are

which is a lot

[inland stump]

ya if you seen em throwing it, they are cooked

[urban steppe]

on the older maps sure
on some of the newer compounds at mammons... there's like a billion holes for consumables/beetles to fly in through

you can't choke all the holes

[urban steppe]

not for a prolonged period at that

😿

[raven totem]

it's time

[inland stump]

nono, i was meaning lets say a scenario where a guy peeking thru a window overlooking a door

[urban steppe]

oh

[inland stump]

obv very specific

maybe a scenario that would happen 1 in 100k but

[summer geyser]

They gotta play the game for more than a day to start to enjoy it

[normal radish]

sticky+beetle remains undefeated

sometimes i catch a glimpse of their hopeless faces

makes me feel like an fpv pilot

[slender wave]

been playing for more than 5 hrs now. still no mammon's gulch. did they remove it?

[inland stump]

i also love getting a free hunter, then explode to spectate the match

seen some crazy shit

[random nimbus]

I wish

[normal radish]

watching hunters in their natural habitat

[rigid girder]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqcl-gif-25519231

[random nimbus]

I used to do that when eating

Just to watch.

Funniest thing was seeing a guy try to kill a meathead with a red barrel but got himself

[normal radish]

id say there is twitch but, some people eat cereal with a fork i guess

[random nimbus]

And the meathead strolling over his body afterwards

Twitch is dogshit

[normal radish]

i mean, yeh you can watch it without ad in game

and you can watch 11 people

its got merits

[random nimbus]

The ads aren't the only issue, but they are a bad one

8 minutes of adds every hour

[tacit sapphire]

what is your guys opinion about prestiging?

[random nimbus]

I personally don't prestige.

[inland stump]

got this gem while spectating rn

[normal radish]

its a cool factor

[inland stump]

what a build

[royal cloak]

I'm stopping at prestige 6

[normal radish]

and has rewards

[raven totem]

done

[tacit sapphire]

but it isnt giving any advantages right?

[royal cloak]

The rewards arent that interesting to me

[random nimbus]

The thing that irritates me the most about that loadout is the tool placements

[inland stump]

yeah how dare you not have a melee on 3

[royal cloak]

No

[normal radish]

0

[lime quail]

prestiging doesn't give any direct in-game benefits, just cosmetics, extra xp, stuff like that

[normal radish]

cool factor

[raven totem]

not really, something long term to do, be one of the big folk with 100, get a bunch of skins

[normal radish]

only

[random nimbus]

He also has no extra healing beyond his medkit

Which is pretty bold

[raven totem]

have no regrets racking up money and guns

I don't recomend doing a whole lot of it unless you plan on playing hunt a long time, unless you like grinding

[random nimbus]

The best times to prestige quickly have passed as well

[raven totem]

I mean no better time than now

you get so many posters

[random nimbus]

Best time was when Death Cheat was basically free

Perma lvl50 hunter

[raven totem]

I must know what kind of frog noise they added

[inland stump]

someone has even worse loadout lmao

[lime quail]

the best time was when you could basically be immune to fire

[inland stump]

double nagant w subsonic

[random nimbus]

Like, 2 separate nagants or dualies?

[inland stump]

dualies

[random nimbus]

Ew

[untold stag]

When death cheat could be stacked and you could get it at every cart at all times

good times

[random nimbus]

I've seen a good few people running 2 paxs in separate slots, but it's clearly for challenges

[untold stag]

(during event)

[random nimbus]

Despised that event

[inland stump]

I did run dualie pax and a single pax

for the headshot challenge

[untold stag]

Now you find a second death cheat and be sad about it

[random nimbus]

Because you were also immune to bleed as well

Add in antidote and you had total status immunity

[untold stag]

oh yeah, the fire pact trait was insane

stupidly powerful

and it had rampage too I think

[random nimbus]

Burning solos was a pain back then

[untold stag]

as part of the pact? or was it something else, think it was rampage

[random nimbus]

Was easier to just put death traps on them

[prisma kernel]

are story quests shared just like weekly challenges?

[untold stag]

Not a huge fan of the current event trait setup personally

Yes

They're shared

[prisma kernel]

i mean like if my teammate does something do i get progress too

for my story quest

bet

[untold stag]

My random carried me, got 2 back to back railroad hammer kills

[prisma kernel]

lol

[untold stag]

for that stupid story challenge

only one that sucks rn is the terminus one, hate terminus and hardly anyone uses it in my lobbies

[round nova]

11pm for the Livestream Ireland time is kinda bad lol

Cutting out a lot of potential viewers by excluding Europe

[random nimbus]

It was rampage

[untold stag]

all 3 streamers are NA so expected

[round nova]

11pm on a Monday too lol

It's only a 5-6 hour difference tho

[random nimbus]

Blazeborn let you heal quicker in fire and made you almost totally immune to it

[round nova]

4pm US is about 9-10pm europe

Much more reasonable

[untold stag]

I think that pact was probably the most broken one

[random nimbus]

It was by far

[untold stag]

I don't even remember one of the 3

the other one was the gunrunner or whatever it was

great for money farming

[random nimbus]

Death pact had Witness and Relentless

[round nova]

The other was the witness yh

[inland stump]

it took me 2 clash matches to finish railroad hammer shit

[untold stag]

yeah death pact was very mid

[random nimbus]

And vulture let you loot a bar back for 1 pledge mark

[round nova]

And then the water one right

[inland stump]

whenever i had the moment someone was waiting with a shotgun

[untold stag]

and the gunrunner one was also used by the nitro and avto enjoyers

since you could loot ammo

[random nimbus]

Demented pack was the other and it was trash

You only took it for remedy

[untold stag]

I might be mixing up events

demented was berserker and remedy right

[random nimbus]

Gunrunner was Smuggler pact in the first tide event, iirc

[untold stag]

the tide trilogy had issues but

it was really really fun

[random nimbus]

Berserker was the first time event too, iirc

Had berserker and instinct, I want to say

[untold stag]

oh yeah instinct

before it got merged

But I think instinct went past 75m or might be wrong

[dawn zinc]

I'd love to know the thought process behind having xQc playing the game lol. I only see his viewers absolutely shitting all over the game

[raven totem]

na it was 75

[dawn zinc]

And shroud has played before only to complain about it

[raven totem]

I've a feeling they're going to have a rough time

[untold stag]

shroud also ended up raging and complaining the entire time

[raven totem]

I never seen him stream it before. hunt's pretty alien compaired to other shooters wouldn't suprise me if he got frustrated

[untold stag]

it's like they were picked just for sheer numbers, not quality or people who actually want to play the game 😭

[remote moss]

he played like a 6 star

crouchwalked everywhere, held a tight hole until someone peeked for a free kill

ratted in close range with shotgun

waited for a peek with rifle

[untold stag]

6 star? crouch walk everywhere?

[remote moss]

he'll get the hang of hunt just fine

[untold stag]

we must be in different 6 star servers

😭

[remote moss]

fr

[untold stag]

my 6 star servers be shift + w

[remote moss]

you poor NA player

me, im totally from EU

[untold stag]

I'm EU

[dawn zinc]

I dont think Shroud will get the hang of the game playing with posty and xQc

[remote moss]

lmao

[untold stag]

I play US only with friends

[remote moss]

didnt know EU got fast all of a sudden, thats nice

[dawn zinc]

Should have had them play with one of the Crytek partners

[remote moss]

again, he has played hunt before and he played it just fine

[untold stag]

oh man, earlier was just 2 avto players, rest long ammo rifles all shift + w

[dawn zinc]

xQc is just a bizarre decision

[untold stag]

it was peak

[remote moss]

play it slow, punish the peek, nothing interesting

[fading saffron]

i wonder how much are they getting paid lmao

[remote moss]

then again, he might get farmed once other people do the same thing in 6 star, if they try climbing

[random nimbus]

Normal for shroud

[dawn zinc]

I've seen Shroud play Hunt, it was rough and I wouldn't say he played well

[fading saffron]

meanwhile the janitor at crytek is going grey from developing the code..

[random nimbus]

Shroud is a sweatlord that doesn't like losing

[dawn zinc]

Same as when Summit played. They die often and just complain

[untold stag]

I don't see this being one of those getting paid things, they honestly might just want to play with post lol

doubt he or crytek would pay them

[remote moss]

im just saying, he played at the expected skill level of how the average 6 star does, hes better than most hunt players in the first place

[hot karma]

Post Malone, XQC and shroud? Wonder how much they are shelling out for that? All those micro transactions and money towards some garbage marketing instead of fixing trades, ping limits, servers and so on... im sure there will be more micro transactions on the way after going into debt on the 29th

[remote moss]

but his wins were all the same boring sitting and waiting strat, practically

[fading saffron]

i don't doubt it at all lol

[untold stag]

If they were getting paid, it'd be hardly anything

they'd make more doing their usual stuff if anything

[dawn zinc]

I disagree. What I saw was more like 3/4 star gameplay.

[mortal cove]

Trades.... have largely been fixed though

[remote moss]

im biased so i cant argue, tbh

[mortal cove]

The timing window for trades has been lowered so aggressively, I rarely trade at all anymore compared to how it used to be

[random nimbus]

Trades still happen a lot in my experience

[untold stag]

Not encountered any bs trades at the moment

[crystal bay]

Trades still happen but they make sense

[mortal cove]

At long distance when both shoot at the same time yeah, but those kinds of trades make sense

[untold stag]

yeah, not taken any issue with trades since I started playing on pc

[random nimbus]

Nope, mostly in close range

Especially with pennyringer

[mortal cove]

The kind of annoying trades I used to see are mostly gone from my experience now.

Where I could just die 1.5s after the other guy dies

[astral moss]

Bro played 2 time he is already playing like a 6*.

[untold stag]

They've also made mmr a lot easier to climb it feels like

[remote moss]

lol

[mortal cove]

To me Shroud is a dunce

[untold stag]

I've gotten to high 6's with like 100 hours of in game play time

[remote moss]

youre just better

dont let the haters call you bad

youre 6 star material compared to them

[untold stag]

❌❌

[random nimbus]

Shroud will not like losing and try the things that give him the biggest advantage

[hot karma]

Largely adjusted trades still happen most every clash

[untold stag]

last 2 trade pain 😔

[mortal cove]

Can't really confirm that, but I play Hunt with a 20 ping So maybe that has smth to do with it

[remote moss]

i hope all the good hunt players come out of retirement for a little while longer so they can farm them

[random nimbus]

Probably will

[hybrid mason]

is the easy anti cheat thing still kicking people out in the est

[untold stag]

there's 100% gonna be people dropping mmr to get in matches with them lol

[random nimbus]

Stream sniping is damn near a job for some people

[astral moss]

Me when i Mosin+Dolch.

[remote moss]

can they at least be stream sniped by players who arent also bad at the game

lol

[hasty wharf]

trades have definitely been improved but they're still kinda obnoxious, and it makes cqb significantly more annoying. it used to be egregious. you'd get doubletapped by a corpse after killing a guy lol

[untold stag]

I think a couple streamers who were big as them got targeted by cheaters

[astral moss]

Same.

[random nimbus]

He probably won't be able to afford that until he actually learns the game, but he 100% would be a mosin/dolch sweatlord if he gets money

[remote moss]

back in the times i cant tell you about, certain hunt vtubers were targeted, yes

[astral moss]

Or auto-5.

[random nimbus]

Quartermaster shotty/obrez

[untold stag]

the ol' mosin/lebel + auto 4 slugs

🐴

[random nimbus]

I've turned to the darkside lately and been running spitzer in my obrez drum

It's nonsense

[untold stag]

Still blown away that obrez match exists

[mortal cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208343555462926436/1412473001235972307/IMG_1214.gif

[untold stag]

most pointless addition ever

[random nimbus]

I deserve it

[untold stag]

I don't think I've seen a single obrez match

in game

[mortal cove]

Play Mosin Sniper Spitzer instead

Like a real man

[untold stag]

lebel marksman is cooler

[mortal cove]

True, I would agree with that, harder to unlock though

(By like 1 gun)

[astral moss]

My dream shroud play auto-5 and miss everything so i can update my auto-5 gif.

[untold stag]

[random nimbus]

Definitely the biggest waste of time they added

[untold stag]

I was like "oh cool, if this is a 2 slot, I can see it"

then I saw the 3 slot

[mortal cove]

Obrez match was a very weird addition

[random nimbus]

It's useless

[untold stag]

only appeal is it is cheaper but

money is not an issue

[random nimbus]

What's the price of it anyway?

[remote moss]

its pre buff obrez levels of sway, so now you have a THREE SLOT thats hard to hs with at long ammo distance, only good for body taps

[untold stag]

like 300 something ?

[remote moss]

fucking three slot, what kind of balancing is that

[untold stag]

345

[random nimbus]

LOL

That thing is competing with a krag and berthier

[untold stag]

so 275 dollars more and you get full mosin

[random nimbus]

And it's not surprise nobody uses it

[untold stag]

picking krag every time

love my krag

[remote moss]

krag is pure

well, it was tainted because of bad long ammo players

[untold stag]

it feels so good to use

[remote moss]

but still the purest long ammo

[untold stag]

and the sound

[random nimbus]

Mako

[untold stag]

so satisfying

I still use mako unironically

[remote moss]

i forget how solid that thing is, sometimes

also the sights

[untold stag]

big boom is funny

Never levered it on pc though, only on console it was a big thing

mako explosive levering

[remote moss]

mako explo levering is still a broken mechanic, need to wait for the aimpunch perk to disappear though

its a free kill if you can push your way into shotgun range, and youre basically perfectly safe in all 1v1s

too many corners and walls you can aimpunch so a shotgun guy cant get you

then dual uppercut explo as your backup

its the aggressive players version of explo crossbow, practically

[untold stag]

No pen though 😔

need my silly wallbangs

[bitter sand]

Mako explo isn't a meme?

Crazy

[remote moss]

its broken and unfair to fight once they get into compound range, yes

[untold stag]

it's not the worst thing to use

[remote moss]

its fine now though, since its "technically" fixed if you get the anti aimpunch perk

[bitter sand]

But yeah I guess it's why terminus is super troll even if you're not one shotting people

[untold stag]

hate terminus so much

because of this story challenge

[remote moss]

its hilarious every time

[hot karma]

According to everyone who camps bushes there are no such thing as trades.....

[untold stag]

is this bait because trades WILL happen

and all the trades I've encountered make sense

that trade I sent there was me throwing a spear and him shooting at me

[hot karma]

I trade VERY often

And I play aggressive

[inland stump]

trades are so common

[untold stag]

Trades will happen but it's not like they're unfair

at least not lately

[raven totem]

I mean he's an ex cs pro, he's going to have a leg up. also hunts mmr is super lenient vs games with actual ranked modes

[hot karma]

But everyone else thinks trades dont happen. My ping is 7 on US east. I trade like a MFer and I play solo

[untold stag]

I don't think anyone denies the existence of trades lol

[inland stump]

I play EU, got 120 ms on NAE and when I play nae I kill someone die to headshot from same guy 0.5 sec later lol

[untold stag]

just that they are a lot better now

[bitter sand]

The anti trade cabal

[royal cloak]

Trading in hunt

[bitter sand]

Covering up all the trades for their agenda

[astral moss]

Yeah CS and Hunt might be the same.
My bad on that.

[hot karma]

There was a time when trades happened so rare it was actually wild when they did

[untold stag]

it's a core part of the game

projectiles don't just disappear when someone dies

[hot karma]

Then why are the majority of trades when someone is 1-10 meters away?

[astral moss]

Trade doesnt happen that often now.

[raven totem]

it's not that they're the same, but there are many skills and fighting sens that transition.

[mighty meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-hmm-gorilla-monkey-idk-gif-10802359271088289051

[royal cloak]

Its rare that ill trade with someone

[remote moss]

exactly, hold angles and punish the lack of util usage because people are forced to bring meta shots

good old flash bomb meta just like the flash countering awpers, just charge up a free kill by running away to a corner and priming it in one sec flat

instead of broken ass one tap awp, you have long ammo that makes it really easy to click someone twice to kill them at any range, very forgiving to limb shots

[astral moss]

Yo that's too much words.

[remote moss]

instead of close range hs fights with mp9, mac 10 sprinting, you have shotgun farming in hunt that forces you to bait out the cycle time or generally die

im just saying, theyre similar games

[normal radish]

fps

no shit

[remote moss]

this guy gets it

[normal radish]

fps games with low ttk ( f.e instant death upon headshot) tend to share some aspects

[remote moss]

hunt is just siege without utility, fr fr

[normal radish]

i never want proning nor leaning in hunt lol

especialy prone

thatd be bonkers

[remote moss]

yes, visibility is getting better in siege but stays ass in hunt

[astral moss]

You cant really flank too in r6.

Movement option are limited.

[normal radish]

didnt siege get hacked and economy is destroyed now?

[remote moss]

i mean, the flanking mindset is the same actually. difference is that flanking takes more time

yeah, they waited until yesterday, exactly 16 hours ago

[normal radish]

excuse me but movement is not limited in siege

not at all

[astral moss]

Yeah its pretty much done since yesterday.

[normal radish]

you can move verticaly, and through walls

[remote moss]

the way they did it was discovered way back in late march too

[normal radish]

the final nail huh. sad to see the game i revered once in this pitiful state

[astral moss]

Wow that's insane. (Sarcasm)

[remote moss]

well, theyll probably rollback everything, they definitely deserve it though

the 10th year anniversary was shit

[normal radish]

i was expecting some incentive for me to return

i get raided market and leaked anti cheat

[mortal cove]

Isn't Siege just Completely shitting the bed rn?

[remote moss]

ye, dont touch it for now

[normal radish]

its not in a state to handle a downtime

its gonna die

die more

deader

[remote moss]

whats funny is that it its not exclusive to siege

it can be used in other places

guy doing it seems chill though, he probably wont distribute unless someone else finds out

[normal radish]

hunt also had some sorta shitening, but that was on aws side

coincidence?

also on ARC some people reported bugs regarding ac

it seemed like a coordinated attack

https://tenor.com/view/pauly0x-pond-pondcoin-wpond-pork-gif-4719084081812750317

[remote moss]

thats a fancy word for guys that are just chilling, instead of doing for profit shenanigans

[normal radish]

i mean it let cheater run rampant in some games, destroyed the economy for some, and caused downtimes

[astral moss]

Yeah they are just ruining à game for fun, i dont like it.

[normal radish]

i could punch someone in the gut and itd be less hurtfull of an attack

[remote moss]

fr

[normal radish]

im not approving or condemning HERE but it was an assault nontheless

[mortal cove]

Not really, but cheating as a business has risen

[normal radish]

i am condeming here though

[mortal cove]

There is a disgusting amount of money behind the scenes in that industry

[normal radish]

oh thats painfully vividly seen

[normal radish]

if someone ask me how disgusting, id puke right there to demonstrate

[remote moss]

its funny how some dma guys timed the hard toggling right before certain things happened

[mortal cove]

and in an instant gratification society, well.... the psychological ankers in the brains of the users exploiting these tools will result in the usage of them

[astral moss]

What did i just read.

[normal radish]

i remember a streamer talking about this years back, and his words turned out to be not just memes

[normal radish]

he said people take the path of least resistance to joy

[mortal cove]

In which case joy = pulling out the credit card to win NOW

[remote moss]

people have lives, cant dedicate it to nolifing time sink ass fps games. fps games are only bearable because a lot of people have prior experience, especially wasted time in childhood

[astral moss]

Yeah we just got a post malone skin instead of Niki Minaj one.

[mortal cove]

Instead of winning as the result of hard work and dedication

[remote moss]

its a reasonable choice to get into cheating, as obnoxious as it is

just a few dollars, a worthless acc, and you get precious moments where you actually get to win

then theres the whole culture thing of being awesome and good at something in certain regions

[mortal cove]

You ehm.... can get that playing singleplayer games Without ruining it for everyone else.

[normal radish]

i have a demanding job, and i make enough time to play games. and it will only hurt my routine if i exceed my own limits

[mortal cove]

Arguably said singleplayer games will be paced better as well as far as the "winning" goes

xD

[remote moss]

what do you call that, strength of will? def more than others

[remote moss]

yeah but the thrill of beating another human being is addictive and something you only get in more competitive games

[astral moss]

Beating a boss too easy feel less rewarding even in single player game.

[normal radish]

no no im as ordinary as the next guy. i just schedule stuff

[mortal cove]

You ever experienced the Thrill of beating RE4 remake Berserker+?

[remote moss]

ok mr ordinary, flexing off how much better you are than these people

[remote moss]

i refuse, i know what youre talking about, go away

[normal radish]

at scheduling? probably

[mortal cove]

I'd argue that's a greater thrill than dunking on some 13yo kids in COD

[astral moss]

Like you really need to be a big egoist sh*t to cheat in vidéo game in general.

[remote moss]

it can be, ye

[normal radish]

people who cant handle being bad at games are generally the ones with higher expectations for their investment return

like they expect to flat lobbies with 100 hours of experience

and at 500 sth be gods

its not that they CANT do those

they expect to them too early

and in EVERY FKING GAME

[mortal cove]

though ngl it is funny to dunk on a 13yo kid

[normal radish]

i bet most of them if they actualy tried, and put more time, are gonna be decent

[mortal cove]

Especially when they be squeeking from loosing

[normal radish]

hmmmm

yeh who am i fooling it is

[astral moss]

Me when i try to understand people that play video game only to be annoying:

[remote moss]

anyway, venom, theres a lot of lore to what you noticed

you know piratesoftware?

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[remote moss]

now that we have lore on that guy, you know his opinions and thoughts are generally wrong, right?

[normal radish]

wasnt that the us based indie studio?