hunt-general

[dense sleet]

luckily those wont be leaving regardless of an event or not

[heavy finch]

You do? i have like 200-300 unused cards. i never use em

[dense sleet]

same with the new scarced weapons

[dense sleet]

sounds like a you thing

[heavy finch]

Gotta play what your friends are playing right. im the only one of my IRL friends that play hunt after all

[shadow dome]

Solo with double necro goes hard.

[opal dawn]

They're adding more "activities" in the tents this time, at least sounds like it by the way it's worded

[dense sleet]

judgement and garden are so fuckign good

[mystic mulch]

So the cards are a permanent addition?

[dense sleet]

i bring them whenever possible

[dense sleet]

yes

[wheat pilot]

They aren't super powerful most of the time but they are fun

[dense sleet]

same with the new guns

[heavy finch]

I also have 55 homestead and 52 wildlands.

[unreal zinc]

Yeah

[whole mist]

Lol tf

[dense sleet]

although im curious how that will work since crytek technically cant monetize them since they are contraband... contraband system change in the future

[dense sleet]

yea its not hard to get lol

i prestige so i dont have any, but i dont hoard things anyways

[heavy finch]

I play alot of trolling. And every time we win i have no main slot. so might as well bring one out.

[shadow dome]

I want a weekend of bouty clash solos and bounty clash duos.

[dense sleet]

that sounds awful, the solo

[shadow dome]

12

[dense sleet]

they tried a solo only mode years ago and it was such a fucking failure

[lavish bear]

how

[heavy finch]

ive never prestiged. never going to

[shadow dome]

No it was amasing

[whole mist]

bounty clash solos might be ok

[shadow dome]

Take that back

[dense sleet]

it was awful

nobody did anything

you hate bushwookies now?

[wheat pilot]

I wish you could equip skins you own to contraband weapons, I kinda dont understand why is that not a thing yet. It wouldn't really affect the contraband status of an item.

[shadow dome]

No

[dense sleet]

how about 11 other scoped rifles looking at you

[whole mist]

Move first, die first

[heavy finch]

rather than bounty clash i want soul survivor trios

[shadow dome]

I ran it, I forced fights

[hazy crest]

People just sit and wait for anyone else to do something

[lavish bear]

sounds fun

[shadow dome]

They came out of they died trying.

[dense sleet]

just to be shot in the back

[lavish bear]

its still like that a bit

[dense sleet]

it just wasnt fun especially since necro wasnt a thing for solos back then

[shadow dome]

Not for a true solo.

[dense sleet]

not nearly as bad tho

[whole mist]

Happens in duos somewhat often still. You move, you get shot at

[dense sleet]

solos have much more incentive to get aggressive with the arsenal we have now

[wheat pilot]

they would have to change the name lol

[dense sleet]

2 slots in particular are monstrous now

[heavy finch]

Do you think i can convince them to make a broom skin for one of the melee weapons. like bat or something?

[whole mist]

me and my x3 empress cards 👺

[whole mist]

LOL

[dense sleet]

yanno i always wondered the reasoning myself

[unique trail]

[Tomorrow]

[mystic mulch]

Make it it's own weapon like the Katana.

[dense sleet]

i just assume it was an oversight from when the game didnt have a lot of skins

[whole mist]

Kinda defeats the purpose of contraband tbh

[heavy finch]

i dont mind. it will complete my grandma voip trolling perfectly 😄

[dense sleet]

yes, it do be hte weekend and AleaS came in earlier and mentioned that the staff required to roll it out are not working atm

[wheat pilot]

how

[mystic mulch]

What's the purpose of Contraband again?

[opal dawn]

They're just stolen weapons, can't change skins or sell 'em

[whole mist]

Many Contraband weapons are engraved skins and such. It would be weird to take a bone veve mosin and make it plain

[mystic mulch]

That's what they are. What is their purpose?

[dense sleet]

cant sell em

ie, no money farming

[heavy finch]

i wish contrabands could be sold tho.

[dense sleet]

you would miss old gunrunner

enabled that ability

Tide of Shadows i believe?

[whole mist]

i tjink that was a thing, but people just fought over guns and extracted instead of bounty

[opal dawn]

No money farming as Elegant said. Second, you steal a gun cuz it's more expensive, trading a winnie for a mosin is pure cash money

[dense sleet]

one of the Tide(s)

[heavy finch]

i currently have 200.000 cash so i dont need money. id still like to be able to sell contras

[wheat pilot]

Logically you would be able to visually modify a gun you found. And profit-wise being able to equip skins to contraband is another incentive to buy skins.

[dense sleet]

AND

back then

[mystic mulch]

I mean. Kinda. If you're into Mosins I guess.

[dense sleet]

you could farm BBs like nothing, and it cost BBs to clean weapons

thank god that whole system was gutted

[mystic mulch]

Yes.

[whole mist]

You could also just….buy the weapon and equip your own skin. Money is stupid ez to acquire

[heavy finch]

I heard someone mention there might be moving trains coming to the game? anyone know more?

[opal dawn]

I have 35 hunter slots, most of 'em are for contraband weapons. Mosins, auto5's, dolches, nitro, mosin snipers

[dense sleet]

kinda hard to pass up a 700$ rifle when yours was 60 bucks

[whole mist]

Old old rumor

[mystic mulch]

I remember Contraband Scoped weapons used to be cracked. I don't think they are these days.

[heavy finch]

dude how sweet would a moving extract be tho.

[dense sleet]

people speculated bc of the Scorched Earth Trailers had trains in it

[opal dawn]

I barely remember when I last paid for a gun

[dense sleet]

they are not

and hot tip

[wheat pilot]

Okay but how is that an argument for contraband weapons being unable to equip skins.

[dense sleet]

they come with range gauges now

for bullet drop

found that out recently

[mystic mulch]

They do?

[dense sleet]

yea

[mild flower]

Dollar sign goes before the number akshually

[mystic mulch]

I haven't seen that on the ones I used.

[dense sleet]

i verified, they all have em

theres a thicker part of hte scope on the lower part of it

[mystic mulch]

Ah

[dense sleet]

iirc

[whole mist]

If you really want a skin, you equip it yourslef. Being able to just change a contraband weapon skin kinda takes away the fun of finding a cool skin you may not otherwise use

[dense sleet]

you use the feel to gauge the distance

[mystic mulch]

I asume that's what a hunter's height would be at drop distance?

[dense sleet]

if the feet dont touch the top of hte indicator, you dont have to gauge, but the moment they touch it you gauge that way

[mild flower]

At the distance you need to account for drop by one head height, the hunter's whole body will fit snug between the centre of the crosshair and the top of the thick bit

[wheat pilot]

But... If you find a cool skin you don't own, nobody is forcing you to change it. On the other hand if you find a plain gun you would be able to equip your own skin to it. This doesn't really take away from anything.

[mystic mulch]

Interesting.

[whole mist]

I can see the argument for contraband guns that are plain

[opal dawn]

I remember when contraband scopes were cracked

[mystic mulch]

Idk man. They seem real set in the idea that Gun costs matter.

[dense sleet]

it Does

but not to a major degree

[mild flower]

I thought it was kinda cool

[dense sleet]

it mainly effects those who struggle with money anyways, but those who win a lot most likely have money, so it wont effect them

[mystic mulch]

I don't think they matter at all unless you actually prestige ever.

[dense sleet]

it gatekeeps the lesser skilled/confident mainly

[mild flower]

A good way to fix gun costs is to give hunters individual dynamic budgets js saying :>

[lavish bear]

mosin uppercut affordable no need for budgets

[dense sleet]

cost does have a stat difference in weapon play, but not as much as something like a s tat change

[mystic mulch]

That would be really complicated I think.

But it would make it do more, I agree.

[opal dawn]

I played base mosin/krag for some time, and it honestly made me a worse player. The shit you can get away with due to damage/rof is just nutty

[dense sleet]

i dont want any limiter in my game for the macro game that hunt has

just let me play with what i want

[mild flower]

How so

[lavish bear]

it doesnt really make you worse it js depends

[wheat pilot]

But what do gun costs have to do with adding skins to contraband. You still wouldn't be able to sell them for money. I'm just saying that if I find a contraband weapon that is plain / has a skin I dislike, I should be able to change said skin in the menu. Everything else could stay exactly how it is right now.

[lavish bear]

like normally i just quickscope hs ppl

[mystic mulch]

Not really. I consider myself part of this group and money is only ever a factor after prestiging before you hit like level 80.

[mild flower]

The entire game is balanced around having that limiter though.

[dense sleet]

money?

[mystic mulch]

Because they clearly see skins as something you can only apply to purchased weapons.

[dense sleet]

not at all

what

[mild flower]

Yeah, there's a reason they made the costly weapons blatantly better in most scenarios

[opal dawn]

Sure, but the two-tap ranges are insane, with old Cent I had to score headshots for it to begin to compete with other long ammo weapons

[dense sleet]

then you are not part of the group that loses 80% of their games and struggle with money

[mystic mulch]

Not very well in my opinion.

[dense sleet]

yet

[lavish bear]

it does also take some skill to do

[dense sleet]

ranger/winfields has had some of the highest skill ceilings for years now

i fear a winfield nowadays over a mosin more

[wheat pilot]

The only fact which points to such a conclusion is that you can't equip skins to contraband. Which is exactly what I'm suggesting should be changed. Nothing else really points to such a conclusion except for the exact feature I'm talking about changing.

[lavish bear]

mosins only good if the players good really

[dense sleet]

i already know htey have levering, sub 1s rechamber time, great 2 tap range, zippy mv, and all they need is one in my dome piece

and oh yea

[mild flower]

Everything is viable but expensive stuff is an inherent advantage

[dense sleet]

25 rounds tend to help

[mystic mulch]

Well yeah. I'm saying that the entire system is built around exactly this not happening.

[dense sleet]

sure, but thats not the end all modifier

the mosin has the highest all-round base stats, it is THE principal of a good gun, that doesnt mean its necessarily the end all factor to win a fight

[hybrid crag]

Anyone else have high ping US East?

[dense sleet]

at least... not always... 125> is so easy bro its unreal

[mild flower]

Of course not. JUst TaP heAdS

[dense sleet]

while kek

it is a valid thing to say

bc headshots are the end all skill factor in hunt

rof doesnt matter, damage doesnt matter

only MV and your aim

MV is truly the end all stat, if there ever was one... it just is in a game like hunt

[mild flower]

Nobody has good enough aim for rof and damage to not matter

[wheat pilot]

"the entire system" is a singular feature. It's not like there is some complicated system which decides which skins you can equip to what. There is just one category of items you cannot equip skins to. Which makes it very easy to change this without fucking up the whole monetization system (in fact i would say it would benefit profits, if marginally).

[light sky]

I mean, it's true

[dense sleet]

those who win most games, will click heads

its just an outright fact

[radiant karma]

I click crotches

[dense sleet]

all the best players are good at hitting heads, its just how it is

[mild flower]

Right, but just because somebody with a worse weapon just skill diffs someone with a better weapon really really hard doesn't make the matchup balanced

[mortal basin]

They're even better at hitting body shots

[lavish bear]

body is good if ur quickswapping

[dense sleet]

and to add to this, as someone who is in plenty of the higher ranked players discord chats, the headshots do not lie to show a good player

[lavish bear]

you want hs majority tho

[mortal basin]

Do you tho?

[lavish bear]

yeah

[mortal basin]

Idk if you do

[dense sleet]

absolutely, if you can consistantly get headshots

[wheat pilot]

Yeah but even the best ones don't always hit heads which is why you can't really say rof or damage don't matter at all. If there was a gun with 10000 MV but 10 damage to the body it wouldn't suddenly be great because it has the best MV.

[mystic mulch]

Only reason to quickswap is if you missed the head smh.

[dense sleet]

MV is godtier

[mortal basin]

They aim for body

[dense sleet]

i just dont agree otherwise

[mortal basin]

I cannot be convinced otherwise

[lavish bear]

if u aim for body u cant hit head

you have no reason to aim for body over head

its a 1 tap for 2

[mortal basin]

Why aim for head when you can just aim for body?

[mystic mulch]

Thoughts on the Dolch deadeye?

[whole mist]

I mean, i guess they could do it. It really wouldnt mean much tho tbh. i guess it would only really matter to players that cant afford to purchase a weapon normally….which would be quite a small pop of the player base. Might not be worth dev time…especially if they somehow break the skin system or something with a bug

Idk

[lavish bear]

bc its an insta kill

[dense sleet]

spitzer is a perfect example of this, you lose one of hte biggest advantages you have as long ammo, the 125 at great ranges, and you get a point and click

[wheat pilot]

So i you are saying that MV is the only thing that matters, you really do think a gun with say, 10000 MV but 4 second cycle time and 15 damage to the body would be the best? Because i think that's a ridiculous thing to say kinda.

[mortal basin]

So is body if you hit it a couple times

[dense sleet]

if you like the deadeye, its fine. but i dont

[mild flower]

@dense sleet anyway, the game is meant to be balanced not only around the 1%. Even though even at that 1% expensive guns are still blatant advantages

[mortal basin]

I'm mosty memeing. The best players I fight headshot me about 8% of the time, though

[mild flower]

You yourself say mv is the god stat, and the expensive guns are usually the high mv ones

[dense sleet]

hyperbolic ofc when i said rof/damage dont matter, it is still a stat point that contributes to the overall power of a weapon, but in terms of what stat gives the biggest advantage? its absolutely mv

[mystic mulch]

I like that it's a funny lookin weapon.

[lavish bear]

bc no one in this game can really aim

[whole mist]

I think 90% of my deaths are headshots

[lavish bear]

same

[dense sleet]

Ranger?

[mortal basin]

They aim pretty well

[dense sleet]

less than a hundred bucks

[mortal basin]

They hit the body shots basically every single time

[wheat pilot]

I mean yeah it wouldn't matter much, I'm not even rich in this game and I already don't really use contraband. But it's just a QoL thing that's easy to add.

[dense sleet]

and it is a monster

[sharp cape]

because body is easy to hit?

[dense sleet]

i fear a ranger more than i do long ammo

[mortal basin]

Exactly

[mystic mulch]

Ranger HV is a pretty common sight I think.

[dense sleet]

and thats not an exaggeratoin

[lavish bear]

i use it so i can js save sm money

[shadow dome]

The empress and the fool are a cheeky combo to pull as a solo in bounty clash.

[mortal basin]

Why aim for head when body shot long ammo is a done deal?

[lavish bear]

bc you can 1 tap

it honestly sounds like u have a mech issue

[mortal basin]

I wish they would try

[mystic mulch]

Just cross bow em.

[dense sleet]

if they are down a bar sure, damage stat matters THAT much more

[whole mist]

I almost never die to two tap. If i do, im wayyy out of position or completely out of meds.

90% i just get headshot

or shotguned by a rival

[dense sleet]

but thats a circumstance we arent talking about

[mystic mulch]

epzp

[dense sleet]

DL-44 type shi

[mortal basin]

I'm complaining about the people I play against that spam body shot long ammo lmao

[dense sleet]

dual wielding is hilarious

[dense sleet]

a rival is rough

worst shotgun

[mystic mulch]

I wish it had a skin I could buy but Crytek doesn't seem to actually want my money.

[mild flower]

I said usually. But anyway what's Ranger's velocity? Pretty sure it doesn't compare to a mosin or centennial etc

[whole mist]

Just kill them with your romero

[dense sleet]

ive tried to give it another run, it just fails me fucking constantly

[dense sleet]

with HV, 550 i think?

[wheat pilot]

rival just has a bit too much spread to make up for it's advantages imo. But it's not a bad gun

[mortal basin]

I don't know what the joke is here, me having a Romero, or saying that Romero can kill people

[dense sleet]

that is more than enough within 60m to tap a head

[mild flower]

If we're saying HV on ranger then we are also saying HV and Spitzer on other weapons, so it's still comparatively quite low

[dense sleet]

i think i mentioned spitzer earlier but i cant find the chat

[whole mist]

I take a romero over a crown&cringe

[dense sleet]

but spitzer is easy mode for a reason

[mortal basin]

You'll take a quick trip back to the lobby

You mean

[dense sleet]

but with less overall ammo and sub-125 always its hard to justify it all the time when HV compact is so damn spicey and great as well

[mortal basin]

I bet

[mystic mulch]

I tend to have bad luck or probably just bad aim with the Romero.

[mild flower]

Damage doesn't matter

[whole mist]

You mean…THEY take a quick trip back to the lobby.

[mortal basin]

I don't, no

[whole mist]

yes

[mortal basin]

That's not at all what I mean

[dense sleet]

did, did you not see my confirm my hyperbolic response

[whole mist]

I think it’s exactly. Youre just dyslexic

[dense sleet]

and the difference between 110 and 119 is minimal lol

cool dude

still cant kill a guy missing a bar

[mystic mulch]

I mean. If you're already sacrificing the 125+ damage for Spitzer, why not take something with HV instead and get a better ammo economy.

[mortal basin]

Woah! That's crazy

[dense sleet]

hence my point

[mystic mulch]

I can understand the argument.

[whole mist]

I dont take spizter for that exact reason. I wanna do 125

[dense sleet]

spitzer is great, no denying, but i would nearly alwasy prefer HV compact for ammo economy

[mystic mulch]

Personally I prefer FMJ most of the time.

[atomic coral]

It's why HV Marathon is relatively popular, lotsa ammo

[mystic mulch]

I find leading targets fun.

[dense sleet]

ranger will always be better to me

levering, the stat differences are MINIMAL and honestly dont do anything, and the Marathon NEEDS IE whereas the winfield has a higher base rof with no ie, since its a repeater weapon

and thats how they work in Hunt, higher base rof w/o the trait but a lessened effect with the rof trait

minus levering ofc

speaking of long ammo

[mortal basin]

Rare elegant long ammo clip incoming????

Oh

[dense sleet]

i havent played the game in like a week and some so i has no new clips that are worthy

[mortal basin]

I love bomb launcher

I played it for a couple hours earlier. It was quite fun

[dense sleet]

its good fun

[mystic mulch]

I don't use it very much but it can be pretty fun.

[dense sleet]

its hard for me to put down the romero hc tho

[mystic mulch]

A decent weapon to pair with the uppermat

[dense sleet]

bow, any shotgun really

uppercut p better

im just biased against the lemat family

[mystic mulch]

No shotgun for close encounters.

[mild flower]

because spitzer has significantly higher velocity and penetration

[dense sleet]

2 slots lol

bow is a bonafied 35m romero

[mild flower]

as well as better iron sights @mystic mulch

[dense sleet]

irons are subjective

[mystic mulch]

I don't like Mosin Irons.

[dense sleet]

they dont count as talking points

[mild flower]

not entirely

[dense sleet]

absolutely what

[mild flower]

a thin iron with minimum obstruction is a better iron than one that obstructs your vision

[dense sleet]

i played Vet for years

and i got accustomed to liking them

[mystic mulch]

I mean. Sparks and Springfield irons are kinda bad. But ther are literally the only ones.

I like Veterli sights.

[dense sleet]

they arent great, but i grown used to them and the chonky ass rear post

vet silenced irons tho, those are banging

[wheat pilot]

That is generally true for most people but in the end one type of irons has no objective, factual advantage over the other

[dense sleet]

too bad the gun sucks now, jsut play the Carbine

[mystic mulch]

Crossbow Irons bad.

I will say.

[dense sleet]

i love em over the bow irons

i HATE the bow sight

cant stand it

[mystic mulch]

Crossbow Deadeye is very nice.

[mild flower]

no, irons with less vision obstruction do have an objective advantage as I just said. more of your screen is available to see your enemy

not that you cant like thick irons

just that there is an objective advantage to some irons

[mystic mulch]

Okay but the guns that have obstructive sights are the minority.

everything else is preference.

[mild flower]

It's not "obstructive" or "unobstructive". It's a scale.

[wheat pilot]

Okay I guess to an extent you are right. But that is such a small difference that what matters 10x more is which sight are you most comfortable with. In r6 siege there are 3 types of 2.5x zoom optic. And like 90% of the playerbase prefers the ACOG which is the most obstructive out of the 3

[mystic mulch]

A logarithmic scale I suppose.

[dense sleet]

i love the crossy :3

theres a repost for ya crafter

[mild flower]

that's correct, but seeing as people tend to prefer the less obstructive sights in this game as well, it's definetely worth mentioning the advantage

[mortal basin]

Classic

[dense sleet]

yes it is

but hey

its not long ammo

[mortal basin]

Imagine if Discord could load clips

[dense sleet]

yea mines struggling too lmao

i thought it was just me

myqualitytoogoodiguess

[mortal basin]

60 seconds, holy

[mystic mulch]

I can't think of any especially obstructive sights other than sparks, spring, and maybe vet.

[hazy crest]

Discord expects you to have gigabit Ethernet to load a 60 second clip on 1080p

[dense sleet]

i record in 1440P

i dont know waht it posts at, but yea

it should be 1440P 90FPS

[mystic mulch]

I've never liked the Mosin sight. I suppose the needle thin front post is popular?

[mild flower]

you're the problem D:<

[viscid needle]

Internet just went out in a lobby I had full cleared and had two bounties on I was like 2minutes top from extracting

[dense sleet]

1080p is so bad tho to record in

its so blurry

[viscid needle]

I switched to my mobile hotspot and am trying to restart my game am I just SOL?

[dense sleet]

probably

if its off your mobile hotspot, good luck

[mystic mulch]

I've always liked the Lebel sights but I've noticed they made the front post on it thinner than it used to be.

[dense sleet]

yes with 1896 they thinned it up

gave it ozempic

[mild flower]

well, you got through the part of the match that actually mattered, so it's fine anyway

[mystic mulch]

When did the bullet drop get added?

[viscid needle]

I want that xp D:

[mild flower]

1896

[dense sleet]

gonna lose his hunter and have no benefit of the game

[viscid needle]

Yeah my game literally won't restart

[dense sleet]

its probably bc you dont have a enough bandwith with your hotspot

[mild flower]

ohh if we're prestiging that hurts

[mystic mulch]

I guess that'd make sense.

[viscid needle]

Yeah I am prestiging

[mystic mulch]

I remember asking about bullet drop in 1895 and people didn't seem to be on board.

[mild flower]

really? most people are surprised when i tell them it got added 129 years ago.

[dense sleet]

people doom posted bc the values that got leaked were so bad

[rain nymph]

Hey i haven't been on hunt for a couple of weeks maybe more, why did i come across a murder circus caravan??

[dense sleet]

lebel 80m

etc et c

[viscid needle]

And I even solo took out a trio all on my own D:

my internet came back up but the game just won't relaunch

I'm just SOL

[mild flower]

some of the values are still bad

[mystic mulch]

I wish I was around to see it.

[dense sleet]

mainly pistols

[mild flower]

yep

[dense sleet]

but eveyrthing else usually makes sense

[mild flower]

uppercut does not need that much drop man

[dense sleet]

but im ok with pistols being under 80

they are sidearms after all

[mystic mulch]

Yes it does.

[dense sleet]

its only been the go to pistols for nearly 9 years

this is finally the year-ish where it isnt throwing to not play the uppercut

[mystic mulch]

when did they drop the Dolch under 100 damage?

[mild flower]

they are but it's also just another contributing factor to the overnerfing and death of 1 slot pistols.

[dense sleet]

its still up there, but honestly TS is half the price and performs effectively the same

but requires special ammo

[mild flower]

dolch

[dense sleet]

that can be attributed to quite a few things tho

[mild flower]

dolch was meta for a while

[dense sleet]

but yea, lower values for bd didnt hurt

[dense sleet]

its never fallen out of it

[mild flower]

exactly

[dense sleet]

dolch has always been nuts, i remember it being medium ammo and getting 7 rounds a fucking world spawn box xD

21 rounds at a wagon is mental for a weapon like that

[mild flower]

ammo muling nerf, portable ammo crate, event ammo crate, qm weapon buffs, bullet drop, quickswap removal.. what else

[woven cape]

[dense sleet]

many of those needed to be nerfed

absolutely necessary

[mild flower]

back when purchaseable dolch fmj..

that was hell

[dense sleet]

muling needed reduction, ammo crate should be nerfed, bullet drop was a fine addition, QS needed to be removed

event ammo crate im fine with overall honestly, the power of it doesnt bother me too much

[mild flower]

be careful saying that last bit around here

[dense sleet]

QM is always a tough discussion, since we had many years of 2 slot weapons just being pretty shit overall baring a couple, and now that they are usable and in some cases very good its an issue

[mild flower]

right— so the problem boils down to portable ammo crate and **quartermaster **

[dense sleet]

eh

sure-kinda-sorta

just buff all drop ranges by like 10 for pistols and it wil be much better

[mystic mulch]

Dolch still considered very strong?

[viscid needle]

By some miracle I was able to restart my PC reconnect and make it to the extract with a minute to spare

[mild flower]

yes

[dense sleet]

uppercut shouldnt have more than 100, but it should be more than 60

[mild flower]

ill settle for 80

[viscid needle]

Didnt get to loot or xp farm sadly but I'll take not losing everthing

[whole mist]

Epic

[dense sleet]

one of hte strongest spam weapons in the game, especially the precision variant

[dense sleet]

considering you had 2 minutes left, wouldnt have much time for that anyways

[whole mist]

Ive really been enjoying the martini deadeye + incen lately

[jovial vessel]

Servers going down us east

[dense sleet]

deadeye so gross

bleh

[mystic mulch]

Is just that combination of ammo capacity and velocity?

[dense sleet]

nothing against it entirely, i just hate the scope and i think that irons do the job much better

[viscid needle]

I didn't have two minutes left I was two minutes tops from extracting as in I could've easily gotten to one.

[whole mist]

See, i thought the same for the past 900 hrs until literally today lol. Something just clicked with me

[viscid needle]

Precious precious bloodline xp

[dense sleet]

the 2 tap is great
the recoil is minimal
stripper clip load
20 rounds
10 rounds from ammo box
FMJ and DumDum make it a monster

the velocity does matter on it, its still quite high for a pistol but nothing monumential like the Trueshots MV with HV

[mystic mulch]

I mean. The damage is the same as the new army no?

The biggest downside of that being the velocity.

[dense sleet]

yes, but 4 more rounds, faster rof and way less recoil

the narmy is a reduced dolch in stats, near identical

but suffers from one of hte worst mvs in the game and a pretty poor rof for being a spam

[mystic mulch]

The stripper clip reload on the dolch feels horrendous. But I guess you can't argue with 10 rounds.

[dense sleet]

10 rounds faster than you can load 6 in the narmy

[mystic mulch]

Really?

[dense sleet]

even with the ejection load

yea

[mystic mulch]

And the swift?

[dense sleet]

well no

thats very quick

[mystic mulch]

The swift would be the most equivalent.

[dense sleet]

but i dont think swift pistols are too personally since you cannot be topped off

but thats just me

[whole mist]

I dont like swift pistols cuz it messes with me. I wanna reload 1 bullet and end up dumping the whole thing

[dense sleet]

yep

"topping off"

[mystic mulch]

I feel like a lot of the issues with the dolch would have been avoided if they added the 6 shot version of the C96.

[dense sleet]

dolch is the one of the only things to ever make me uninstall the game

[whole mist]

its iron sights are buns imo

curcle with a little nub

[dense sleet]

old Quickswap, and Dolch FMJ/DD being purchable

[mortal basin]

What, did you 2-tap someone and they lived?

[dense sleet]

i dont mind hte irons tbh

they arent the best

[mystic mulch]

Dolch dumdum is absolutely vile.

[dense sleet]

FMJ was always insanely better

[whole mist]

I havent seen a dolch dum dum in ages

[dense sleet]

71m two tap was broken

[mystic mulch]

When was the last time you saw someone using a scarce ammo?

[dense sleet]

with how common it is to find em?

[mortal basin]

I see Dolch FMJ fairly consistently

[whole mist]

every day

[dense sleet]

nearly every other game now at this point for me

[whole mist]

usualy is cennie bleed

[dense sleet]

theres ALWAYS an ammo between one of hte 4 wagons on the map, and the Nest can spawn one

[viscid needle]

I find scarce ammo all the time but because I use bow and melee I never get to use it. I know frag arrows exist but they're stupid rare

[mystic mulch]

It feels like I never find one for the weapon I'm using.

[viscid needle]

Scarce ammo also regularly spawns in towers

[mystic mulch]

You mean 3 boxes of poison ammo.

[whole mist]

Dolch poison when

replace fmj

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277500347516321792/1371480590284750948/1x.webp

[viscid needle]

I'm like 23 levels into the pass do you guys think I should get the premium version?

I don't actually like most of the skins

[whole mist]

I mean…..

[viscid needle]

Some are okay though

[mystic mulch]

If you don't like the skins why bother?

[mortal basin]

Trying to talk myself out of getting it just for the Mosin inspect

[whole mist]

Theres a mosin inspect?

[mortal basin]

Literally never play Mosin, but it's the best inspect they've made by a long shot (imo)(objectively)

[mystic mulch]

does it applu to the Obrez match?

[mortal basin]

Good question

I don't know

[unreal zinc]

dont think so

[mystic mulch]

darn.

[unreal zinc]

they are two different familys ingame

[whole mist]

Nobody knows cuz nobody plays the match

[unreal zinc]

true

[viscid needle]

The bone themed stuff isn't terrible

[mystic mulch]

That's the only Mosin I like.

[mortal basin]

I would think it doesn't

[wheat pilot]

what why

[whole mist]

I believe they are separate trees e

[wheat pilot]

i mean it looks cool i agree in that aspect

[mortal basin]

They are

[mystic mulch]

I prefer the sights.

[whole mist]

How much less $$$ is the mosin match ?

[mystic mulch]

about half price?

[mortal basin]

I kinda like deadeye scopes, but I have not yet tried the match since it came out

[whole mist]

hmmm i might try it next prestige then

[mortal basin]

Prestige 😭

[whole mist]

Yes

[mortal basin]

How far are you?

[viscid needle]

variant specific skins is really stupid NGL

[whole mist]

Ill be at….27? In a few games

[mortal basin]

Almost there

[mystic mulch]

I've made it as far as I want to prestige.

[whole mist]

I see no point in NOT prestiging

[viscid needle]

I am only prestige 1

[mortal basin]

It's pretty free these days

[viscid needle]

the period where you've just prestiged and have no perks or tools is really annoying

so I wouldn't say free

[whole mist]

like….oh no, i lost my weapon variant that i can just unlock again in 1-2 matches. The horror

[mystic mulch]

Making all of the weapons unlocked from level 1 makes prestiging less interesting.

[mortal basin]

It used to be much much much MUCH less free

[whole mist]

I guess traits and no spear early on is a little annoying. Other than that tho

[viscid needle]

I'm aware I sat at level 100 for a while before the update that made it easier

[mortal basin]

Far too free now in my imo

[mystic mulch]

Less of a hassle too, I'll agree.

But I don't really see much of a purpose in doing it these days.

[queen hawk]

7,000 players online this game is gradually declining

[mystic mulch]

I did it because I wanted the Golden ticket skin.

[woven cape]

Night night

[mortal basin]

Goodnight

[whole mist]

What’s that one again?

[mystic mulch]

But I don't see any purpose to keep going unless I get bored of having money.

Gold Trim Bornheim.

[whole mist]

Oh

Thankfully i did all the trials before 1896, so i got the skins

[shadow dome]

Poison shot when?

[viscid needle]

I actually don't care about any of the skins

[mystic mulch]

If I could get a Golden Ticket skin for the Bornheim match I would give Crytek at least 10 dolar.

[whole mist]

Poison shot?

[mystic mulch]

Maybe even 11 dolar.

[viscid needle]

I just want to do the prestige so I have a long term goal to work towards

[shadow dome]

I got bored of having money and never using it on my first RB. I was getting close to 1 million.

[lavish bear]

getting bored of having money🥀

[mystic mulch]

Yeah like a shot you take that poisons you. But let you use it on enemies.

[whole mist]

I routinely go down to $0 for fun

[lavish bear]

i try to stay within atleast 40k

[shadow dome]

I don't while prestiging

[viscid needle]

I don't like not having money but I don't play that expensive of builds and I'm good enough to earn my money back pretty easily

[unique trail]

For those about to HUNT

[whole mist]

Whenevr i hit lvl 90, i splurg on nirtos

(And lose)

[shadow dome]

Get over it and prestige.

[whole mist]

[viscid needle]

you get like 8000 hunt dollars when you prestige homie that's plenty

I never said that was a barrier to me doing prestige?

[mystic mulch]

I get that. But I did have a long term goal. Problem is that I reached that goal.

[whole mist]

Especially with how events are back to back now, money isnt an issue anymore. And you’re good enough to earn money so

[mystic mulch]

Just get 1500 from looting a saddlebag.

smh.

[whole mist]

Im the same way tho. Ill take in a free loadout when im at like 30k

[lavish bear]

as long as i can use mosin uppercut a lot then thats a good amount of money

[shadow dome]

Ahh, I used the context of 100ks to be not having money.

[whole mist]

Aside from the mosin match, next prestige imma use pistols only ,for a bit

[viscid needle]

My main loadout with all unlocks only costs me like 600HD which isn't shit

[mystic mulch]

Triple Pax loadout.

[viscid needle]

Even if I only win 1 in every 4 matches I'll still gain money

[whole mist]

Collecting 2-3 clues gives u waht…$100+?

man i cant type

[mystic mulch]

50 per clue?

assuming you actually collect clues. and don't just sprint at the gunfire.

[whole mist]

I’m like a moth to a flame. I wanna collect a clue even if im being shot at

[mystic mulch]

what's the lore reason for the clue getting angry when there's 2 teams of hunters near it,

[viscid needle]

I am sitting on like 17k right now and I have no idea how I'm ever gonna use it all

[mystic mulch]

quad Dolch Deadeye loadout.

[viscid needle]

Not having access to traps and such on prestige is very annoying though NGL

[mystic mulch]

yep

[viscid needle]

I like to play solo and traps really help me with holding a position

Not every fight is gonna be out in an open field where you got the drop on the enemy trio and they have no clue where you are

[lavish bear]

sprinting at gunfire makes the game interesting tho

[viscid needle]

Like if they were unlocked at like level 10 we'd be chilling but the three mines aren't until 29 poacher is 36 and frontiersman is 47 which is insane to me

[mystic mulch]

If you say so.

[lavish bear]

taking gunfights is what makes it fun

sitting and refusing fights is js flat out boring to me

[viscid needle]

You literally get stalker beetles before traps

[viscid needle]

I mean you do have a point

If you want action follow the gunshots

[lavish bear]

im not gonna buy a mosin and uppercut to play terrified

[viscid needle]

You just need to be careful not to run right into an ambush

[lavish bear]

im in the game to fight

[viscid needle]

Reminds me of that old guide on how to be a chad

let me look it up on steam

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2424324946&searchtext=chad

[lavish bear]

i'll never understand bush camping for 30 minutes

[mystic mulch]

been on both sides of this.

Generally I perfer to let them get nice and distracted shooting at eachother before getting involved.

[urban cobalt]

I CAME BACK AFTER A BREAK TO PLAY SOME OTHER GAMES, HOW IS THE GAME MODE BUG STILL IN THE FUCKING GAME? NO WONDER PEOPLE GET SO PISSED OFF WITH THESE DEVS

Caps, nice. now you know its a rant

[lavish bear]

third partying a fight is different

theres some ppl who js sit and hide

[mystic mulch]

Yes I know. I've been on both sides of this too.

[atomic coral]

Becasue Crytek don't do hotfixes. Been like this all event

[mystic mulch]

Ultimately what I don't like is playing the same way every time.

[lavish bear]

fair

im a big close pvp kinda person

and more aim heavy

[mystic mulch]

like, today I had a funny game where I got 3 kills with the uppermat shotgun.

[lavish bear]

most of my games have been bad today

only really had one decent one when i went on lowered crosshair

[mystic mulch]

That time I just ran into the boss lair after they banished.

[lavish bear]

yeah that works alot

[mystic mulch]

Yesterday I had to deal with a pair of bushwookies hiding in the swamp grass. By bush wookieing harder than them.

Variety is nice.

[lavish bear]

the bushwookies always have such a corny loadout

[whole mist]

I once died to a trio all in the same bush on lawson

[lavish bear]

or there will be ppl who buy a dolch or smth

and they js refuse every fight

they just runaway

[lavish bear]

lol

[mighty meadow]

with slugs or buckshot

[mystic mulch]

Buckshot.

(it was the same guy 3 times)

[mighty meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/major-suchodolski-angry-szkolna17-stare-gif-14018422

[mystic mulch]

His teamate was annoyingly elusive.

[mighty meadow]

now to think of it, i dont remember the last time i played any lemat with buckshot lol

[mystic mulch]

It's perfectly usable. If you mind the effective range.

[cerulean needle]

hey team, where do i report a hacker in game? dude killed me 400+ away along with the entier team

[mighty meadow]

i mean, why play buckshot when you can just slap slug

[dense sleet]

!report

[graceful hedge]

If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab in your Last Mission section on the home page. Select the player -> Open Profile -> Report. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

**Please note that you can still report people even if you don't have their SteamID or cannot open their profile by providing your own SteamID, time of the incident with a time zone and region on the Hunt Showdown website (link is in the in the Customer Support channel). **

**Hiding statistics/profiles does not prevent reporting. **

[mystic mulch]

Buckshot is funny.

[loud thunder]

tag : horror

[dense sleet]

bc lemat buckshot is only like 2m less than slugs and way more consistant

[mystic mulch]

And I usually use the lemat for more ammo for another shotgun.

[dense sleet]

and doesnt rely on perfect aim

[lavish bear]

elite aim

[mighty meadow]

idk, lemat slug always was consistent for me, which i cant say about buckshot

but i believe it was buffed at some point?

[mystic mulch]

If I was running slugs I would have ran out of ammo shooting him with it.

[loud thunder]

my aim horrible too

[dense sleet]

all buckshot was buffed at some point

its effectively a rival hc shot now, not the best but still solid asf for a backup

[mystic mulch]

Yes.

[mighty meadow]

i mean, i remember lemat buckshot was pretty unusable earlier

and that was the time i last used it lol

[dense sleet]

ye, it was pretty awful yes

[mighty meadow]

which is probably why im sticking to slug even though it was buffed

[mystic mulch]

As someone used to the old Lemat spread, It feels ridiculously consistent now.

[mighty meadow]

does community event end at december 1st?

feels like we're not getting mosin skin this time

[drowsy estuary]

wtf is up with east server lag spikes?

[lavish bear]

its so bad

[drowsy estuary]

its straight BS and I know its not my internet cause when i switch to West im fine

Has this issue been brought up to the devs?

[lofty sinew]

it gets brought up constantly here

they have to be aware

[drowsy estuary]

ok I see, thanks for the feedback guys!

[earnest spire]

how to get the laptop ?

[unique trail]

Enter the raffle or something

[earnest spire]

how can i do that,i think they would send a link or something right ?

[mild flower]

yea slugs used to be the only pick but buckshot is insane rn

[queen hawk]

I think they post it on their socials

[earnest spire]

yeah should be

[jaunty patio]

They'll announce the giveaway tomorrow, it'll likely be a website signup since it's getting announced across multiple social media channels.

[sharp cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295785001278767158/1422711731511230474/attachment.gif

[whole mist]

smh fake jordans

[sharp cape]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[lavish bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026175176766930977/1422546517054586992/togif.gif

[proud thunder]

Ping abuse self-report

[whole mist]

[whole mist]

Horror indeed

[mild flower]

170 ping "ping abuse"

[proud thunder]

He's not on the ideal server that's for sure

[mild flower]

maybe their native server is low pop at that time

[young panther]

he should open a ticket and self report for 170 ms ping abuse and attach a video too

[earnest spire]

yes he should

[viscid needle]

Can you get credit for kills after you've left a match like if you trap the fuck outta the extract point and someone dies to your traps does it improve your KDR?

[mortal basin]

No

As far as I know, you have to be in the match. If you're spectating after you die, it counts then, but not after you leave

[viscid needle]

Well I guess I'm just a troll then

[dense sleet]

crafter is correct

[mortal basin]

Guess so 💔

[dense sleet]

you have to be spectating

[viscid needle]

Can't spectate on extract

I took the cowards way out to get the tiny little sliver of xp needed to push me to 50

Left a parting present at the extract nearest to the bounty

LMAO I was in a match with three trios

bet I get someone with that

[loud thunder]

say what?

[full jungle]

[loud thunder]

my town just in korea
without vpn asia 180/ west 160 east 210/ oceania 160

[viscid needle]

Holy crap I'm about to hit positive KDR

[loud thunder]

so plz don't say to me "ping abuser"

[loud thunder]

keep going

[viscid needle]

I was like .65 a week ago

Huge improvement

I'm regularly getting 3+ kills a match now

[dense sleet]

which you select? you mean how?

Settings-Game-Top option

[loud thunder]

umm i means

[mild flower]

"ping abuse" is rarely an advantage in hunt anyway, dont listen to them

[dense sleet]

like which one you should play? Ping abuse in hunt hardly exists btw bc of hte nature of the server instances and how it handles projectiles

[loud thunder]

I wanted to tell you that whatever region i choose, the ping is all high

[dense sleet]

you might have bad connection, is it normally like that?

[whole furnace]

Hunt has peeker's advantage like any other FPS, people tends to confuse that with ping abuse lol

[dense sleet]

that or if EVERYTHING is red, restart your game

[dense sleet]

mainly this yea

[loud thunder]

always orange color or can't select region

[dense sleet]

that just sounds like you have low connection quality to all servers

ie, your isps service isnt too good

[whole furnace]

Hm...
How is your internet performance usually?

[dense sleet]

you cannot play a regoin if its above 225ms, it simply wont let you, and if you teeter around 180-200 its gonna be rough to consistantly play on servers

[loud thunder]

just quality of the Internet in Korea is very high, it is a matter of physical distance from the server

[true lodge]

Is the circus back?

[loud thunder]

as i know asia server in hongkong/

[dense sleet]

its the next event, but they are just t easing it

[true lodge]

Whens it supposed to start

[icy pivot]

server rubber banding is pretty horrible right now on NA-East

[true lodge]

Right after this one?

[dense sleet]

a bit after this one yes

[whole furnace]

10th of December is the predicted date so far :)

[untold stag]

Who is that in your pfp lol

[loud thunder]

just community rumor so,,, it isn't correct

[dense sleet]

assume nothing unless given a date in announcements

[loud thunder]

you are right

anyway i want to play low ping toooo

[dense sleet]

you might need better connectoin yourself for that unf

[proud thunder]

My mistake buddy, sorry to hear that

There's just a lot of ping abusers on NA E every day

[dense sleet]

doesnt exist in hunt, at leat not to a normal degree

people often confuse peekers advantage for ping

but all games have that, its just a thing we'll never get rid of unless everything is LAN

[proud thunder]

Ping is an issue and if you say it isn't you're coping for the wrong side

[dense sleet]

playing in high ping is more detrimental to the guy playing with the ping

its used as a cope mechanism for why someone died

[loud thunder]

sometimes I feel deprived when I watch hunt streamers play between 1 ~ 20 pings

[dense sleet]

your ping doesnt influence the bullet, since thats server sided, and this game is not p2p server, its instance based

the hitmarker and blood is client, but that doesnt mean much in terms of the actual registration of hte shot

[icy pivot]

Hunt's server environment is its biggest technical bottleneck. The game demands high-precision, one-shot-kill gameplay, but the servers are built on budget infrastructure better suited for slower-paced MMOs.

[past pagoda]

been a long while since i got killed off spawn. is that cheat making a comeback?

[proud thunder]

You too today?

[loud thunder]

Sometimes blood splashes, but "sometimes the hit marker doesn't show up and not deal damage too"

[loud thunder]

i use translate so,,, this sentence isn't clean

[proud thunder]

There's some rage-hacker on NA E for the last few hours using a streamer's name

[past pagoda]

yeah thats the one

a 256 kd as of last game lmao

[proud thunder]

Jumping in a match killing everyone in 10 seconds then killing himself to go again

[dense sleet]

just keep reporting him

its hte weekend so thats why he is doing it, less likely to get banned

he'll most likely be gone tmrw

[lofty sinew]

how hard could it possibly be to create a system that auto-banned accounts for obvious, egregious bannable play like that

[dense sleet]

idk, im not a ac dev so i cant say

[lofty sinew]

ie - if you've TK'd your team more than 3 times in a 24 hour period, 24 hour ban and flag for review

[dense sleet]

easily abusable for trolling

[lofty sinew]

how

[next mesa]

Well, some irl friends will TK eachother for the funni. Wouldn't be a great system.

[dense sleet]

you can get a guy banned with zero repurcusion for you

[lofty sinew]

how

[dense sleet]

imagine a duo playing with a trio and getting tk'd on purpose

run into his nades, get swiped by a melee and bleed to death

[lofty sinew]

how on earth are you managing to force someone else to TK you

[dense sleet]

its not that hard lmao

especially in lower play i could only imagine

[next mesa]

It's also not hard for a you to accidently die to a teammates explosive or trap.

[lofty sinew]

right, and somehow, you're forcing the same person to TK you, multiple times in a 24 hour period

[next mesa]

The amount of false bans would increase, leading to more work from Crytek. Wouldn't be a practical system.

[dense sleet]

you act like its impossible?

what

[rocky citrus]

Can HUNT learn from PUBG to avoid character clipping issues and make the game more realistic?

[lofty sinew]

where did i say impossible? how about the much more realistic, very unlikely?

but sure, this simple to solve problem is impossible because of one extremely unlikely edgecase

[rocky citrus]

It would be even more perfect if realistic ragdoll physics could be added.

[viscid needle]

I would love it if arrows spawned above corpses instead of at or below them so I stop losing them to the void.

[whole furnace]

Nope, death animation have a very vital information aspect to it

[rocky citrus]

I mean something like the ragdoll physics in PUBG.
You know, buddy.

[dense sleet]

yea

except as he mentioned

the death animations have actual purpose to be like htat

[rocky citrus]

To make the game more realistic, I think we can try these approaches.

[whole furnace]

Yea and I tell you that, in Hunt, the death animations in hunt have actual gameplay mechanic tied to them

[dense sleet]

the game isnt realistic though

[rocky citrus]

Learn how to prevent character models from clipping through objects in PUBG and achieve realistic ragdoll-like physics effects after character death.

[dense sleet]

are you claiming PUBG is realistic?

[rocky citrus]

what？

[dense sleet]

your feet face away from where you got shot from

[whole furnace]

The reason why the death animation of Hunters is static and does not ragdoll, is because they have information mechanics tied to them :)
As Elegant said, they indicate from what direction the Hunt was shot from.

[rocky citrus]

So this is related to the game mechanics and can't be changed arbitrarily?

[full jungle]

Profile pic is crazy

[whole furnace]

Yes :)

[rocky citrus]

All right

[whole furnace]

Or well, it could, but we would lose an aspect of the game

[viscid needle]

It's just Gollum?

[turbid dock]

information, and the fact that the bodies themselves need to remain in place for looting, burning, and reviving

[dense sleet]

and hunt physics already has issues, you wanna add dynamic ragdolls?

[turbid dock]

you could leave something else there, a spooky glowing orb that you loot lmao, and have the body ragdoll separately, but that would probably be weird

[dense sleet]

oh god

how many times you go to jump on something and it absolutely desyncs you off of it? or you take a 5m fall and take 40+ damage?

all physics related

well sorta

[rocky citrus]

Didn't everyone notice that Crytek secretly reduced the graphical detail of HUNT through an update to accommodate players' computers?

[dense sleet]

you mean many many many years ago

when the game released into Early Access

this is hte downgraded hunt, you should see what the 2015/6 trailers for GamesCom Looked like

[rocky citrus]

I really miss the graphics quality of that E3 2017 demo.

Unfortunately, that kind of image quality will never return.

[loud thunder]

https://youtu.be/6Zqk_X9-he8

[dense sleet]

it probably could now

but back then? ehh idk man

2070S was the power house nad it was like 20 fps on high lol

[loud thunder]

[white steeple]

Hey hunt can you fix your damn servers? I know this is a shout into the void but everyone in my last three matches have had 10 minutes of rubber banding

[dense sleet]

dolch had 40 rounds medium btw :3

[loud thunder]

WHAT?????????

[reef flame]

gambling

[loud thunder]

[dense sleet]

watch the clip

the 2 handed precision in his hand is the dolch p, and he has 10 +30

[whole furnace]

Imagine if this was the map we had today lmao

[loud thunder]

ahh

[dense sleet]

avto with 30 rounds as well

it looked almost semi auto xD

[loud thunder]

sparks pistols akimbo right?

[dense sleet]

hunger map moment

[dense sleet]

used to be that much yea

not no more, dualies dont stack the reserve anymore

good change

[whole furnace]

Oh god please don't remind me lmao
Got invited back to the next test, not sure I have it in me

[dense sleet]

give it to ME

ill do it

[loud thunder]

yes yes i start hunt 2023 years

[rocky citrus]

I don't know if anyone else feels the same way, but the graphics in the current HUNT version have been severely modified, making it more and more like a competitive game. The visuals are brighter and no longer as realistic as the 2017 E3 Demo, and the dark, eerie atmosphere is gone. I think Crytek has made too many compromises in this regard.

[dense sleet]

ive been playing since, 2018? 19?

[loud thunder]

i remember that

[dense sleet]

hunt wouldnt have sold anything if it tried to stick with this

[whole furnace]

Can't do sorry :p

[dense sleet]

remember, hunt was going to pull an Arc Raiders and be a 3rd Person PVE game lol

then did the exact same thing and switch to an extract shooter

[loud thunder]

i remember that "field ammo box" can get long ammo 11 rounds right?

[dense sleet]

depended on your reserves

[lavish bear]

yoooo hunt will do anything but give me my 5 star✌️

[dense sleet]

but yea

[whole furnace]

I mean, even the trailer itself seems like to be running 20-30fps, not really good for an FPS lol

[dense sleet]

mosin and uppercut was 9 iirc

Hunt is one of the only 2 current success stories in this genre

[sharp cape]

hey bro

why everytime i check chat

your talking bout sum mosin uppercut

[dense sleet]

so i think they made the right compromises many years ago

mosin/upper is goated thats why

why do you always show up when i talk about it? drawn to it i see

[lavish bear]

yes bro

[sharp cape]

am caught

dang

[lavish bear]

hes like a dog

[sharp cape]

mosin and uppercut 🤤

[loud thunder]

mosin + uppercut /mosin + dolch /nitro + dolch

😋

[sharp cape]

only mosin uppercut

mosin dolch 🤮

[rocky citrus]

It's worth noting that this E3 2017 demo ran on a GTX 1060 6G, and the game graphics were incredibly realistic. I believe Crytek isn't incapable of optimizing games; rather, they proactively made it so that players had the option to reduce the game's graphics settings, denying players the choice themselves.

[lavish bear]

same guy that was ping abusing with a shotgun btw✌️

[loud thunder]

by the way When will cryteck increase the character slot?

[dense sleet]

they did agesa go

its up to what, 75 now?

[loud thunder]

need more cyber figures

[dense sleet]

thats a lot of fucking hunters

[loud thunder]

enough?

[whole furnace]

I mean, I've played since early access and dunno man, performance have never been Hunt's strong side and mostly always been a struggle.
Sure, they could make current Hunt look better, but on the otherhand, the economy and PC hardware market have been on fire for 10 years now and people don't really have options for affordable rigs.
And finally, Hunt is very much bound to fact that it is also console game, which puts huge limitations on graphic fidelity

[reef flame]

idk about all that, i just wish i was able to play at all rn

just the na server thats on fire or all of them?

[whole furnace]

I rarely have issue with EU servers

[jaunty patio]

NA East is the most complained about server, something very temperamental about it

[reef flame]

not even playable atm

[loud thunder]

hello ufo

[viscid needle]

IDK man it doesn't look that good it's feels like it's pretty heavily relying on the dark environment to make it look more cinematic

[whole furnace]

The DoF, Motionblur and constant frame drops to 15-20fps makes me happy that ain't the Hunt we have lol

[viscid needle]

I think it looks worse honestly

[lavish bear]

what is going on with east servers rn bro✌️

[rocky citrus]

I think Crytek has gone against its original intentions. They could have easily retained the realistic graphics of the E3 2017 demo, or at least given players the option to enable them, instead of completely cutting graphics for the sake of so-called optimization.

[jaunty patio]

Is that from reconnection? I don't quite remember if that fixes itself or not when you cross compound borders, that might be an older bug.
If it's been like that as you travel then there's nothing else to do except to extract.

[whole furnace]

I mean, I would love true dark night maps, but also, that just mean I would die to people who is gamma maxing

[lavish bear]

true dark would be awful

[viscid needle]

see I hate the existing dark maps

and I often play stealth

[lavish bear]

rain and dark maps are AWFUL

[whole furnace]

Dunno man, graphics are plenty realistic in nu-Hunt.
And like would you prefer to play Hunt with 20-30fps?

[rocky citrus]

Modern gamers with higher-spec PCs are perfectly capable of running the 2017 demo smoothly.

[reef flame]

i dont care how bad the game looks, if playing on 480p gives me an advantage over you im playing with it

[whole furnace]

It would be awful bc people min/max the fun outta the game sadly.

[loud thunder]

i don't like rainy weather/mist /night time too

[lavish bear]

the rain is awful

you cant hear anything

[whole furnace]

Don't be so sure about that.

[loud thunder]

even hate inferno too

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo way!!!!!!!!!!!

[whole furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[reef flame]

ive never played inferno is it pleasant?

[loud thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-no-no-no-gif-11570486733901236457

[reef flame]

there you go

good job

[whole furnace]

Depends, I got tired of Daytime inferno real fast bc it was mandatory and often and it gave everything in the distance a orange/brown haze that made it hard to see far.
But night inferno was much better because it was not as constant and it actually helps illuminate the night :)

[rocky citrus]

Yes, while the graphics and textures have been improved in the new version, according to feedback from some veteran players, the lighting effects of the new engine are not as good as the old version, and the lighting effects in the new version have some problems, such as being very glaring.
Furthermore, the new version has completely compromised for the sake of competition the game's scenes are brighter, losing the eerie and terrifying atmosphere of the night from the 2017 demo. It's truly a pity that the realistic graphics and environmental atmosphere of that demo will never return.

[jaunty patio]

It's a nice video, but ultimately that's what it was designed to be, lighting for a video. It's marketing. When focusing on making the game fun, they found atmosphere lost out to gameplay.

[rocky citrus]

To be honest, Hunt: Showdown is a great competitive game now, but Crytek is no longer the Crytek that pursued the ultimate graphics when it was developing Crysis.

[whole furnace]

I can agree to an extend with that.
The lighting in on the new engine is different and sometimes feel washed out and hurting clarity, it is much harder to spot people inside houses vs. old Hunt.

That said, if we had old Hunt's "dark and eerie" atmosphere, it would be fun at first, but also quickly be super frustrating to play as it only takes one person to crank up their gamma to see you before you see them.
Also keep in mind, night was furthermore changed BECAUSE of player feedback, as I said, I miss old night maps, but I also gonna acknowledge a shit ton of people hated it and would often just extract if they got one. Which is ultimately a gameplay negative experience for everyone.

And finally at the end of the day, that eerie and terrifying atmosphere is a short-lived one and once the novelty pass, does it lose all its benefits.

[rocky citrus]

ok Your analysis is excellent.

The old version is gone forever, but I will miss it.

I would buy it if Crytek were willing to release the E3 2017 demo or turn it into a single-player game.

[whole furnace]

See NOW we talkin' :D
Hope that Crytek would work on a single-player/co-op Hunt game.
Especially now they stopped production on Crysis 4

[rocky citrus]

I have a deep obsession with that E3 2017 demo.

[whole furnace]

It is facinating, like, I love the mood.
But also, oh god no, please not 30 bullets for the Dolch!

[rocky citrus]

Yes, I completely agree with you. I would buy it if they wanted to.
Hopefully, they can bring back the graphics from that demo to create a single-player co-op game.

[whole furnace]

Depends on the game they wanted to make, but possible.
As far I understand graphic fidelity is easier with smaller player lobbies (1-4 players) vs larger ones.
But not completely sure on that.

[atomic coral]

Well I woudn't mind blue highlighted extracts

[whole furnace]

Valid and fair point lol

[rocky citrus]

cool👀

[atomic coral]

You should see a night map on an HDR monitor, can still get that effect

[rocky citrus]

Why has the flashlight been removed from the current version of HUNT?

[viscid needle]

I feel like only a noob would turn it on?

[hasty wharf]

post malone stole it and wont give it back

[whole furnace]

Don't think any official reason was given.
But it was basically redundant.

[rocky citrus]

I hope the flashlight will come back.

[hasty wharf]

The likely reason is that they just didnt wanna bother adjusting the new lighting for it or something, since it still existed in 2.0, it just wouldn't turn on.

If you had it in a loadout, you could still purchase and bring it into a match, it would just pull it out in your hand like other tools, and you'd be standing there with nothing instead of turning it on

[rocky citrus]

No, that won't work because the graphics and textures have been significantly modified, making it impossible to revert to the effect of the original demo.

[rocky citrus]

😆

[rocky citrus]

Increase the atmosphere of terror and make it easier to see the enemy.

[atomic coral]

Flares and Fusees

Plus they nerfed flash bombs so they were grey and didn't whiteout blind people with the screen overlay, they probably removed flash light becasue they couldn't change it to accomplish the same thing (not blind people) without making it useless since it's a dynamic light

[hasty wharf]

I mean it just straight up didn't work when 2.0 came out

[atomic coral]

Yeah, my guess becasue they didn't figure out a good way to not blind people with it, so disabled it

[zealous basin]

Are the servers up?

cause it's saying that I weigh too much for using the maynard silencer so I can't play till I run a mile

[hasty wharf]

better get going then

[jaunty patio]

I'm assuming that a quickly moving source of light wasn't playing nicely with the lighting engine they had updated to, fixing it would take too long, and people's use of the lamp was so low that the best move was to remove it.

[hasty wharf]

No, the lazy terrible move was to remove it. BRING IT BACK

i fuckin miss it so much

[atomic coral]

Nailed a great shot, died to a dark dynamite/alert trap a minute later and triggered the "explosions disable solo necro" bug

[atomic coral]

Also the new lighting engine still isn't perfect. On both Nvidia and after I switched to AMD you get random light flickers on trees, and lighting on windows (when looking at them from outdoors) will flicker between unlit and lit.

[jaunty patio]

It still has trouble with dark sight as well, ye

[atomic coral]

Can't believe we still have over two weeks until we get an update that hopefully addresses some of these super annoying bugs like the lobby game mode defaulting to Bounty Hunt and the bugs of ignoring you have Death Cheat or solo Necromancer...

[mild flower]

Solo necromancer is broken in multiple ways rn

Poison clouds and explosions both break it

If you die to an explosion it can just make you unable to self revive

And I'm shocked I don't see more people complaining about it

[lavish bear]

explosions r annoying

[south shore]

Because it was not appreciated as it should have been.

The players have only themselves to blame.

[hasty wharf]

I DID APPRECIATE IT

[south shore]

NOT ENOUGH

[hasty wharf]

i took it every game 😭 even after it was broken

[atomic coral]

Literally what I said happened above, dark dynamite + alert mine
I did just finish a match where I was able to res after a dynamite, so it seems to only be world explosions like barrels, dark dynamite, etc. but not throwables

I just unlocked the full Centennial and Pax line from one fight

[forest merlin]

Has anyone else noticed that once you're the last team on the server your ping starts to spike dramatically and rubberbanding increases tenfold?

[lofty sinew]

it seems like mostly empty lobbies get put on a lower priority tier

[whole furnace]

Don't recall that have happened for me on EU

[mild flower]

It happened to me once after dying to a thrown explosive

[atomic coral]

I've had it happen the entire match, or when we start fighting the last team, and then I've had servers where I'm the only solo and 5 minutes left and it's fine. It's completely random.

[lavish bear]

lag has been so bad recently

[fallen juniper]

random kid i found at my chat

[whole mist]

I need more circles

[lavish bear]

hes so pro

[whole furnace]

I guess bc it drawing with a single stroke, it is a spiral, not a circle :V

[whole furnace]

Maybe don't post random kids without any reason in the gen chat of a public discord

[fallen juniper]

hes my friend actually

my junior friend

[whole furnace]

Still

[whole mist]

Mods asleep

[sick gust]

me and my 2 partners each died to the same cheater haha

[sleek bison]

The us west console servers have been absolutely unbearable this past week or 2 but tonight it’s the worst it’s ever been. Literally unplayable. Super disappointing because for the last few months the servers have been rock solid for us

[atomic coral]

3rd Death Cheat today!
This means it'll be another month long drought after...

[hazy crest]

this is the worst i've seen cheaters in 3 years

[light sky]

It's just rage cheaters

Basically attention seekers.

[hazy crest]

doesnt make it any more fun when i die 3 matches in a row from 480 meters

[light sky]

Meh

Take a break lol

This is just a bunch of immature people Seeking clout

They don't represent the "cheating got worse" they are just trolls.

[hazy crest]

crytek needs to get its shit together and ban these guys

ive seen one name for 3 days now

[light sky]

Yeah they get banned

[atomic coral]

Report them every time

[light sky]

Then get another account and keep doing it

Unless you can solve the issue the whole industry been dealing with for years, is gonna keep happening

[hazy crest]

i havent seen this many in years\

[atomic coral]

It happened at the end of last event too

[golden sequoia]

why did you remove my post?

[light sky]

Well, weirdos show up here and there all the time

[light sky]

Name and shame rule.

[whole furnace]

Squaky noise

[lavish bear]

I havent seen the cheaters at all tday tbh

[sick gust]

ahh is that why the videos of the cheaters were removed? that my bad i didnt know that wasnt allowed.

is there a proper source for me to send evidence of cheating and the players who do it?

[light sky]

#customer-support

[queen shore]

do those balloons give u points even for current event

[sick gust]

thank you

[whole furnace]

Nop

[reef flame]

Idk if its just new player perspective but without tarot cards and spider dens this game sounds really empty

[whole furnace]

Mjaaah, there is some beauty in the simplicity.
Think Tarot cards is a good addition tho.
Consumables needed a shakeup

[reef flame]

but for example without spider dens whats the point of sticking around? it sounds like the most efficent tactic is to just run away with bounty

with them you have a reason to be last alive and use pledge marks and get xp and cash and stuff

[queen shore]

many people are still used to old hunt including me like in old hunt there was nothing basically only boss and hunters but hey changes are needed and im in for tarot cards to be permanent addition