hunt-general

[sour halo]

idk, maybe I'm too old to be somehow influenced by these stuff

[stone wharf]

the other hunter burn theyr firends

and run to extract

[civic ruin]

I end up just getting more results with medium ammo anything tho

[deft panther]

I haven't touched medium ammo in well over a year, my brain doesn't comprehend bullet travel outside of compact and long ammo

[civic ruin]

Springfield is just reliable idk

[thin fable]

springfield shorty, my beloved

[lofty sinew]

not everyone is affected by it hugely, but everyone is to some degree. People will latch onto literally anything, when there is no clear-cut progression. And what little they are given comes across as "important to focus on". Which isn't helpful for Hunt, imho.

[deft panther]

They probably had a gun they don't want you to loot, or they were trying to make a play that forced you to come out in order to get said gun
I've burned my friends before when they had the shredder from MC, so that the enemy can't get it

[thin fable]

I'll burn a friend if they have a dolch

its what they deserve

[civic ruin]

Lol

[mild flower]

Or hunting bow or crown and king 👍

[lofty sinew]

As an example, instead of K/D, if they provided "successful extract / death" instead, it would imply to players that successful extract is actually the primary goal of the game.

[thin fable]

or a nitro

[civic ruin]

Consistent two taps at consistent ranges

[mild flower]

Nah I respect nitro users unless they combo it with devil then less so

[sour halo]

dunno. this is like the first game with a progression system I've played since the times of modern warfare and stuff like that, basically the first gen of games that exploited this kind of psychological mechanisms to "force" kids to play

[civic ruin]

I gotta learn playing bow at some point

Bow + some shorty

[sour halo]

my impression is that the system hunt has isn't annoying

[thin fable]

the progression system in this game use to much worse, its way better now

[civic ruin]

Yep

[thin fable]

in terms of unlocks

[civic ruin]

Now's good tho

[lofty sinew]

progression in hunt is optional, and very low key, which is part of why people end up hyperfocusing on K/D and MMR bracket. because there is nothing else.

[thin fable]

I remember grinding out special ammo types

[sour halo]

and tbh considering that the learning curve is steep, I prefer to have ELO etc.

[thin fable]

despair

[royal cloak]

my KDA is 1.41

[civic ruin]

Mine was 0.3 when I started

[sour halo]

so I'm relatively sure to play with people of my level

[deft panther]

To give you reference, I have over 1.5k kills out of my 2.1k kills on the lemat carbine marksman alone.
I have been playing compact ammo since late 2023 when it came out, and have only JUST these past 3 months started using long ammo, that transition broke me.

[civic ruin]

15ish hours laters it's 0.9

[lofty sinew]

I am not saying remove SBMM.

I am saying, stop showing players SBMM

[sour halo]

what is it?

[civic ruin]

try Springfield, do it

[mild flower]

Agree

[languid badge]

Hey does anyone know the best and quickest way to find people to play with on PS5? The PS5 section of the cord is dead even tho there is so many players on PS5 in here

[royal cloak]

LFG Psn

[whole furnace]

Compact ammo.... came out in 2023???

[royal cloak]

#looking-for-group-console

[languid badge]

I use that, it's way to slow, nobody ever checks it really

[sour halo]

however the game is really nice IMO. my only critics are that the meaningful content isn't much, while there is too much fluff. But the formula is so good that replayabily etc. are surely high

[deft panther]

Lemat carbine marksman came out in 2023 🤣

[whole furnace]

Yeah that makes more sense lmao hahaha

[royal cloak]

well i just find people while playing

[ancient whale]

Hunt and Arc are like completely different extraction shooters though.

[languid badge]

I feel it ig I could play w ransoms

[deft panther]

Look, while the discussion is about showing SBMM and MMR.
Let's be honest
Hunt deserves a new end screen at this stage.
Having a black background with character names that are intractable quite literally pushes players to check these numbers/info instead of getting any more info

[languid badge]

Randoms lol

[sour halo]

it's a bit absurd that there are 1,3947 skins, and just 4 maps and a bunch of bosses after all these years

[languid badge]

Agreed fully ele

[stone wharf]

interesting stratgy noted

[lofty sinew]

There are various ways they could do it better of course, i feel like various versions have been hashed out here a hundred times

[whole furnace]

Like many other things, it used ot be better lol

[lofty sinew]

add some meaningful progression people won't just opt-out of (aka prestige) and make SBMM opaque.

[sour halo]

oh, and the game has also the worst UI I've ever seen in my life

[lofty sinew]

man, I will say, going from Arc to Hunt, the urge to change shoulder for right / left peek is so strong it feels weird to not be able to :I

[languid badge]

Yeah it's very cumbersome super hard to use especially on controller

[sour halo]

I thought that it was made for consoles

[lofty sinew]

funny that considering the 1896 rework was almost entirely controller oriented in terms of design

Anyway I am decidedly whelmed by the idea that we have a murder circus 2.0 to look forward to

[sour halo]

because on PC it's like the less ergonomic thing I've ever seen (and I haven't played many crossplatoform games in the past years)

[royal cloak]

still wanting cross platform

[lofty sinew]

the UI was much, much worse on 1896 release

[ancient whale]

I am fucking dreading the shredder coming back...

[lofty sinew]

massive fumble

[hasty wharf]

the UI is fine now, minus some weird quirks that may or may not be bugs

[lofty sinew]

agree. it's fine now once you get used to it. they just need to stop messing with it mostly

[sour halo]

as a relatively new player it's really the worst I've ever seen

so confusing

[whole furnace]

All I wanted was just drag and drop man :')

[lofty sinew]

just be happy you're dealing with the improved version

[sour halo]

one billion of windows to cross to change a stuff

[hasty wharf]

thats fair but it was always bad lol

[sour halo]

and the fact that you can't move tools and consumables it's crazy

[lofty sinew]

Did you hit P100 yet McCree

[sour halo]

I mean, it takes some time even to understand that "normal" ammo exist

[whole furnace]

One of the challenges of Hunt's UI design is just how the game is fundamentally not made for console.
It is quite the menu game and was made for PC since day one, console came later.

Heck, one of the challegnes of Hunt's ANYTHING design is the above statement

[sour halo]

and stats etc. are poorly made or not informative

[whole furnace]

Balance and gunplay too

[sour halo]

like, you can't know what some multibarrel weapons actually do

you can't know the stats of the shotgun in the lemat

or you can know them only for the special ammo

[raven totem]

same as rival hc

[sour halo]

and stuff like that

however UI isn't obviously that important

[lofty sinew]

UI is important when it is above a certain level of bad. it's fine now. not great. but it's fine.

[sour halo]

I'm just amazed that an enterprise as big as crytek isn't able to do something better

[whole furnace]

"Big"

They have one game

Going on for them

[lofty sinew]

Crytek is not a Ubisoft or EA or something

[dreamy cave]

Im over here thinking im in hunter gunstyle in arc lol

[raven totem]

seems like Ubisofts timer is ticking

[whole furnace]

Like, it is 400'ish employees total, but that is baby numbers nowadays in the industry.

[sour halo]

I play crytek games since 20 years or so

and they had some other blackbuster in the past

[raven totem]

and almost died as a company

[lofty sinew]

Crytek also does (or did at least?) do non-public work for private sector.

[raven totem]

oh this is becoming familar

[sour halo]

without considering that this game alone has surely sold millions of copies (and keeps going)

[raven totem]

I remember you now

[whole furnace]

Just to put into perspective EA has 14,500 employees

[lofty sinew]

EA has devoured how many studios now though

[whole furnace]

Rockstar Games has 2k employees

[raven totem]

it's crazy to me that a singular person likes to keep coming back, preaching how crytek should leave hunt alone and do something else

[whole furnace]

Hunt is all they got

[raven totem]

ask them why they axed the new crysis

[lofty sinew]

why would they bother with a new showcase for cryengine. Hunt does that job fine and the whole AAA industry is moving to UE5 anyway

[whole furnace]

To be fair, a studio like this should have a b-team working on another game.

[sour halo]

surely they have one

[hasty wharf]

damn...

[sour halo]

however hunt is a money machine, so until it works, it works

[lofty sinew]

Crytek are not a very transperant developer. Never have been even at the best of times. They could have undisclosed projects on the go. Nobody has said a peep about it though.

[whole furnace]

Hunt? Money machine?

I mean it makes money for sure

[whole furnace]

Well, last year's news was: "We stopping Crysis 4 and funnel the team into Hunt".

[mild flower]

More money than Crytek's other stuff

[whole furnace]

Not hard to beat nothing lol

[lofty sinew]

There was no point making Crysis 4 imho. and they clearly agree

[whole furnace]

100%

Rather just see a b-team make a game with the Hunt IP.

[sour halo]

crysis surely will sold well

but I imagine that you can delay it as much as you want

[lofty sinew]

Standard FPS market is super saturated

i doubt it would have sold enough to justify development myself

[sour halo]

if this one goes well too, without considering gtaVI etc.

[sour halo]

it doesn't matter much

[lofty sinew]

It does though

[sour halo]

it's a legendary IP

[raven totem]

the new crysis isn't going, it got cancled

[lofty sinew]

yes, it is known

plenty of "legendary IPs" are making sequels that have not justified their development costs

And Crysis 4 was never going to be some genre-breaking game. it was only really ever a glorified tech demo for cryengine

the meme is "but can it run crysis" not "omg what genre-breaking gameplay will Crysis introduce next?!"

[whole furnace]

Crysis 3 didn't sell that well.

[atomic coral]

Dang, didn't realize until afterwards I wasn't even in the scope view when I headshot them.

[lofty sinew]

Buh, discord refusing to play videos as usual.

[atomic coral]

Or bringing them back as bastardized live service (looks at Marathon)

[lofty sinew]

isn't Marathon DOA? idk, I havent heard a peep about it in ages

woop, now vid is playing

[whole furnace]

To be fair and balanced Crysis setting could actually work as an extraction shooter lol

[atomic coral]

Indefinitely delayed becasue the gameplay wasn't polished and they plagiarized the shit out of all the artwork

[lofty sinew]

I bet it just gets cancelled myself

[lofty sinew]

I would rather a proper extraction shooter with Hunt setting than crysis personally

though i am not sure i am desperate for either

[whole furnace]

Oh god not even that haha
Just wanted to be a little fair about it, don't want any of it lol

[lofty sinew]

I didn't think I was interested in any version of new extraction shooter to be fair. but Arc has done a good job of changing my mind. More than the sum of it's parts. which is mildly surprising.

[cursive marlin]

I don’t like losing everything bc someone wanted to kill me and be an ass. For that reason I don’t play arc anymore

[lofty sinew]

the stuff doesn't really mean anything outside of it causing emotional hooks that make the gameplay more engaging

but that's fair. It's a good game. that doesn't mean it's a game for everyone

[cursive marlin]

It does mean stuff. I started running free load outs bc of it man

[lofty sinew]

plenty of good games out there that just don't interest me. and that's fine.

free loadouts aren't a problem? they're good. I got wealthy running Stella Montis duo with a friend with free loadouts

[atomic coral]

Crytek should have been making a single player game in the Hunt universe instead of Crysis 4.

[whole mist]

I think it was “put on hold indefinitely”…..

[lofty sinew]

yeah, aka the waiting room for quiet cancellation

[proper hound]

But Hunt's whole shtick is based on Multiplayer T_T They already scrapped the idea to do a PVE way back when. They'd have to come up with a whole story that can compete with something like Expedition 33 or God of War in both gameplay and story telling.

[main flax]

Anyone else having severe issues rubberbanding on USE servers

[lofty sinew]

people in here reporting problems with USE all the time

so.. no you are not the only one

and you have to imagine Crytek are aware USE is regularly having problems.

[sour halo]

What is the issue with you underestimate the effect nostalgia on people in the 30s-40s

[lofty sinew]

I think you overestimate that myself.

[sour halo]

Look stalker

[lofty sinew]

I would not buy a new crysis game just because it is a new crysis game

[sour halo]

They managed to sell several millions of copies in a short time

[lofty sinew]

I would actually go as far as to say, I have zero interest in Crysis as a game world

[sour halo]

With a rather mediocre game

With some rather mediocre prequel too

• crytek has the engine

[lofty sinew]

Allegedly they have actual faction fights going on stalker 2 at this point, i've been considering re-installing

[whole furnace]

I mean as someone in that age-range... eh
Crysis have not been relevant in forever.
Like if Crytek can make and release a good Crysis game, all power to them, but the Crysis 3 sold abysmal numbers, we talking around 200k reported.

[sour halo]

As it happened to other sagas

But now you have to consider it as a whole

Because decades have passed

[lofty sinew]

it just wouldn't be relevant. What would crysis 4 bring to the table? in the era of doom : the dark ages / eternal etc I just don't see it

[atomic coral]

Do the story leading up to the corruption, a Call of Cthulhu like story where it starts out with weird things and cults and culminates in what happened to the bayou and the creation of the American Hunter's Association.

[sour halo]

And nostalgia + the fact that we are those with the money now is enough for a company to do something like this

[lofty sinew]

Crytek clearly doesn't agree

if they felt like it was a license to print money

they would have printed that money.

they did not.

[sour halo]

They don't now

[atomic coral]

Case in point, Stargate with the original producers has been greenlit by Amazon/MGM.

[sour halo]

Because they have Hunt

Until it sells they don't need to do anything else

[lofty sinew]

They have had hunt for a long time, how is that relevant. they were working on crysis 4. then they cancelled it.

they cancelled it entirely because they did not expect to make money from the exercise

because what other reason would there be.

[atomic coral]

Crysis 4 would be competing with the annual CoD release and upcoming GTA 6. It's not like Expedition 33 where it filled a niche that hadn't been saturated.

[lofty sinew]

exactly. i think crysis 4 release would have nothingburgered so hard it would have been embarrassing

[whole furnace]

That is not how the game industry works, even with a live-service game, studios are still working on other titles.

[sour halo]

And this is the first thing I've written

But it doesn't mean that we will not see one in the next years

Because the brand has an aura that can surely be exploited

[lofty sinew]

My money is on Crysis is dead as a franchise myself

[atomic coral]

Hunt has the benefit of also being different and early enough in the extraction shooter niche that it hasn't been overshadowed. Heck Arc Raiders actually caused people to try Hunt. I saw so many 1 stars with 1 boss kill and 300 bounty (tutorial) playing with their 5 star friends (sorry for killing you guys).

[sour halo]

Not a fan of extraction shooter here

Hunt has probably the best formula though

[lofty sinew]

not a universally agreed apon thing obviously

or Hunt would be more popular.

[sour halo]

It's popular eh

[atomic coral]

There are enough of us who don't like being abused by Tarkov though to have a stable base.

[sour halo]

I mean on steam it has probably sold almost 10 million copies

• the consoles

[lofty sinew]

Hunt peaks at 30k players. it is not popular by any definition

it is niche.

[sour halo]

Ahah 30k isn't niche at all

[atomic coral]

But not dead

[deft panther]

Holy shit this just flooded my brain with memories
The 2 different types of hunts you could embark on
Being able to triangulate where the boss was based on 2 clues
Being absolutely scared shitless because PvP was actually terrifying

[lofty sinew]

I said peak. Currently it as about 8k, and a 30 day average of 15k. It is niche.

[sour halo]

I've understood it perfectly

It's not niche

It's actually a quite mainstream game

The world isn't black or white

[lofty sinew]

And yet, you are arguing in a black or white fashion

[sour halo]

It's not that if you are not lol you're noche

[deft panther]

Oh we're back on the peak player discussion?
It had people like Frankie advertising it at its peak, during its "biggest update", peaked at 60k for a week and has been sitting at about 10k for almost 6 years

Hunt by all accounts of its player base and uprising remains a niche game

[sour halo]

Niche*

[queen hawk]

I feel like I can’t really play the game anymore, returning after half a year break.

[lofty sinew]

The rust takes a good while to come off.

[fleet adder]

nah you can get back into the swing of thingsfor sure

[sick bramble]

why not?

[fleet adder]

i took a break from 2018 till like 3 months before 1896 came out

[whole furnace]

It saddens me to see Hunt getting fumbled so badly twice.
First with the event bloat and design disaster that started after Tide of Shadows and then with the 2.0 release.

[deft panther]

For reference, I stream Hunt on a large discord with friends regularly, and the one question I get everytime someone new joins the call is "what is this game"
Back when I started playing Hunt, it peaked at 3k daily, a 7k increase isn't exactly brimming with popularity

[lofty sinew]

Yeah, as much as I enjoy arguing semantics (I don't) I don't think it's arguable and calling Hunt "Mainstream" is bordering on hyperbolic imho.

[sour halo]

Idk, most of the games I play rarely cross 1k as peak

[queen hawk]

Hopefully

[queen hawk]

Played like 10 games today decent kills but zero extractions.

[sour halo]

And if hunt is niche, what they are?

I'd say that it's a very solid and successful IP in it's genre

Which is obviously a quite elitist one

But it's not niche

[deft panther]

Unfortunately I think the problem stems from a large portion of those new players just- straight up not enjoying the game.
Is it niche by design? No.
Does its core gameplay resemble other highly beloved games? Yes

But it punishes people who play other games by taking their perceptions of what you can, can't and will do, and putting it 6 feet under.
Sound traps, AI that require different tactics, no remorse on death, no inventory systems

If you showed someone an immolator for the first time, they are gunna try and shoot it. I know all 6 of my friends who played the game to begin with did

[sour halo]

I've randomly learned that you don't have to stab or shoot the immolator like a week ago lol

[deft panther]

And I know 3 of those friends uninstalled because there's no automatic guns, or "skill expression"
1 left because he hated the thought of PvPvE
And the 2 that remain play the game with me.

That's not an extremely high success rate of player retention, even in a small grouping

[sour halo]

But coming from milsimesque games I actually enjoy the fact that this game is relatively quick, immediate and simple

But it depends on your background I guess

[whole furnace]

I think that is part of it, but I also think Crytek have been handeling it in the worst way to "ease" new player experience.
Ofc this might just me be reading into it, but buffing levering, shotguns, increasing overall hipfire, flodding the game with spam options and nerfing wallbangs, just doesn't solve the core-issue of the game being unforgiven, but it also just makes what many people liked about old Hunt bounce off.
I tried to get my 3 star friend back into Hunt around 3-4 months ago and he HATED how everything was just a shotgun or spamdown, while he wanted to use a Scottfield.

[unique trail]

Dusters ftw

[deft panther]

Hey I feel his pain man.
I play snipers, only snipers, in ever game I've ever picked up.
Sea of thieves? Eye of reach
Counter strike? Awp
Arma 2 dayz? DMR, SVD, AS50

Needless to say I like sniping, so I do it in hunt, but for different reasons, I just cannot be assed going in close and getting spammed with guns that will make me angry

[sour halo]

When I started playing you could have 2 large weapons and fanning on 2 pistols

[ivory violet]

anyone else experience the server crash just now?

[sour halo]

I'm glad they have removed it now

[whole furnace]

Sniping can be fun for sure!
I just wish that Crytek didn't made the meta: 0-20m Shotguns/Bow/Spam, 20m< long ammo.
Will be fair and balanced that ofc there are people who bring other weapons for those distances, but that is what I see the most.

And the fact that EVERYONE can easily slot in a bow/shotgun

[deft panther]

Yes.... long ammo for over 20m....
Sure
👀

That's totally what I use

My longest ever shot, lemat carbine marksman

But yes, I totally understand where you're coming from, I wish other weapons were more versatile in situations

[sour halo]

My impression is that they could maybe nerf strafing a little bit

I'm talking about movement

And it would be also nice if you could lean

This would make many stuff more viable

And the whole thing a bit more tactical

[whole furnace]

Just wish that 2-slot shotguns weren't this good.
Making the 0-20m meta less shotgun depended, would diversify the 0-40m meta a lot

[sour halo]

• there could be actual ballistic curves

[whole furnace]

Nerf to strafe would just fuel the jump peek meta even more.

[sour halo]

Jump peak?

[deft panther]

I will say, it always seems if the enemy is using slugs, they are almost 100% more accurate than when I'm using them 🤣

[whole furnace]

You jump out around a corner and then, due to perfect air control, you redirect the fall, so you land behind corner again

Makes you harder to headshot

I hate that meta

But it is part of the game sadly

[sour halo]

Lol

Yeah this shouldn't exist

I've never seen it myself though

[deft panther]

It's part of any tactical FPS unfortunately
Jump peeks and shoulder peaking

[sour halo]

Not really, it depends on how they make inertia

You can't do it in many many games

[deft panther]

Changing any damage valued will unfortunately cause an uproar again.
Remember, the game was meant to be dead 6 months ago because of all those limb damage changes

[whole furnace]

Oh god also the limb damage change

[deft panther]

https://tenor.com/view/newman-truck-postal-humanity-seinfeld-gif-18400232594019273680

[whole furnace]

Literally just a buff to all the already best weapons in the game lmao

But we could still nerf 2-slot shotguns (and the bow).

Think people are getting tired of Oops! All Shotguns! meta

[ancient cave]

I'd be fine with it if people were active with them but being able to always have a shotgun promotes corner sitting

[stone basin]

Ill take this shotgun meta over the old mosin spitzer meta any day of the week

[deft panther]

I appreciate the levering changes and buffs, as someone who wants to use more cowboy styled guns in their cowboy game, this is a plus for me 👍

Let me use my cool looking lever action gun to do some cool looking shit

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-rifle-shoot-gif-14359984853722478499

Actually hate they gave that animation to the mako of all guns.

[mild flower]

i wish terminus got it

[whole furnace]

Issu is that is STILL the best thing to run.
You just also have 2-slot auto4 when people try to counter-play you by pushing you lmao

[whole furnace]

It does

[ancient cave]

terminus is the og in having it

[mild flower]

oh nice

[whole furnace]

Or well, the handcannon variant

[mild flower]

oh not nice

[stone basin]

Yeah but you gotta reload to do it its not an actual inspection

[deft panther]

I remember the days of running whatever I pleased

Even though I still do that

But I remember the days

[sour halo]

It seems to me that all weapons are viable

Then if you want to tryhard your choice

But the fun is elsewhere

Tbh basically anything can kill in one or two shots

The differences aren't that huge

[mild flower]

except nagant revolver

that thing is awful

in every single way

[sour halo]

It still kills in a couple of rounds

[mild flower]

a lot of the time nagant revolver takes 3 to 4 shots to kill

it sucks

[sour halo]

However by my part I find the balancement good and interesting

Because you have both the space factor and the perk factor

So the stronger weapons often require a few perk slots to actually work fine and so on

[mild flower]

kind of

all the meta weapons only need iron eye, even that is a debatable pick

I find it's more often that weaker weapons are buffed by traits to bring them up to speed

[whole furnace]

Sure there is always the 1-click equalizer.
But like... even the best players makes mistakes and some weapons SURE allows for more mistake than others.

[sour halo]

Which is perfectly fine

I would say that 99,99% is positioning

You don't lose because of the weapons

[whole furnace]

That is why Dolch is/was hated.
I shoot at the opponent with my conversion pistol, I miss and I am punished with a 1.4s cycle time.
In the meantime, my opponent shoots back with a Dolch, misses 2 shots, but headshot with the 3rd before I get to cycle my second shot.

You can 100% lose because of weapons

[desert acorn]

Ever have no audio cue that someone's cooking a bomb?

[whole furnace]

Happens yeah

[deft panther]

Or, I'm my case
Get rushed by an avtomat 4 games in a row, with no way of countering and 12 bullets be shot through my chest before I get a second shot off

[raven totem]

Excuse me?

[mild flower]

a lot of the time nagant revolver takes 3 or 4 shots to kill

[whole furnace]

Avto feels awful to play against, always just feel like I got RNG'ed.
Had a dude miss ALL of his avto mag on me, then I push up, he gets one stripper clip in and does a leg + chest on me as I turn the corner lol

[deft panther]

I got a free avto from the dark tribute.
Lasted me 15 games.
37 kills

Before I died to another avto

[desert acorn]

They need to incentivize Soul Survivor. Just let me choose my hunter skin, and I'd play it often.

[covert drift]

just got back to hunt after a break and i got a question... what are custom ammo? I remeber special ammo, but last time i played i dont recall anything called custom ammo.

[deft panther]

Custom ammo is technically special ammo

[whole furnace]

It was always called custom ammo

[deft panther]

It's just the special ammo you can put in guns, but everything is grouped into the "custom ammo" grouping because now we have different arrows, bomb lance options, shotgun options, long, compact and medium ammo options

[whole furnace]

Or

UwU ammo

[covert drift]

Really? My mind is tricking me apparently.

[deft panther]

Oh and pennyshot + flareguns also fall under custom ammo

[covert drift]

ok gotcha. Thanks

[static briar]

oh great post menthol is coming back

[stone basin]

Add cigarettes to hunt

[static briar]

Honestly, some sorta black magic herb that you smoke that restores one small health chunk would be fire!

I know it'd be annoying as all hell but I'd love a perk that let you use darksight to temporarilly control hellhounds and hive swarms

[static briar]

you can also do it with the terminus shorty if you reload it but leave the chamber empty they will spin cock it

[raven totem]

If you're shooting a nagant at a range it four taps and not going strictly for heads idk what to tell you

Nagant main scenario to be used is as a mule gun that can fan

[stone basin]

Shootgun

[static briar]

If you are using your pistol at a range where damage fall off makes it a 4 shot kill you have already made several miss steps

[mild flower]

that's my point

[mild flower]

limb shots

[mild flower]

You're better off using LeMat there.

then it also has a shotgun

and serviceable damage

or conversion

[whole furnace]

Would you use a Pax at the same range?

Bc like, Nagant needs to 4 tap arms at 32m.
Pax can at least 2-tap upper body at that range.

[mild flower]

it would seem the nagant has one singular perk over other revolvers

one extra bullet

https://tenor.com/bpXQS.gif

what would we do without that 7th shot

[whole furnace]

I used to ammo mule Nagant for Officer C/Marathon, but then I realized -3 bullets for a Shotgun is 100 times better lmao

god I hate this meta

[mild flower]

or just use lemat and have a shotgun AND ammo muling

doesnt nagant not even get fmj

[whole furnace]

That was what I alluded to

-3 bullets, but shotgun

[mild flower]

ah i thought you were talking about a qm shotgun, didnt pay attention to the -3 cause i dont know numbers

[whole furnace]

fair nuff

[scarlet plinth]

Remember back then the game was more grayer/saturation is lesser

[whole furnace]

Actually Hunt of pre-2.0 "popped" more for me.
More often does Hunters get washed out nowadays in my experience

[reef flame]

im new and need to ask what im missing, is the frontier and frontier silencer not just incredibly good? and dirt cheap? why isnt everyone and their moms using it?

[void geode]

compact ammo

with levering its always a good choice because levering is strong

[reef flame]

is that bad? the officer carbine uses compact ammo too yet everyone uses that gun

[covert drift]

in my experience for longer distances frontier sucks... but close its good with levering

[whole furnace]

It is a solid gun, but like.. not the best you can go for sure :)
But if you were in my playgroup and was only running that, I wouldn't say you were throwing nor object.
Someone who puts hundreds of hours into a Winnie turns out to be a good player usually.

[void geode]

compact ammo is a net downside ofc but like itss not gonna make a good gun terrible

the officer carbine shoots a million miles an hour and has good sights

headshot machine

[whole furnace]

No it doesn't, it have MUCH worse MV than the Winnies

[void geode]

in this game there are very few weapons where like if u use them ur just fucking yourself over. like 95% of weapons are good

[void geode]

as in fire rate not mv

officer carbine is awesome sauce

[covert drift]

i guess the gun doesnt matter if you have good aim.. go for the head.

[void geode]

you could kinda apply that to anything

in a perfect world u could be a demon with the derringer

its just less optimal lol

[reef flame]

alright this all makes sense yeah

so ill just use the krag yeah?

[void geode]

the krag is a pretty meta pick yeah lol

i do like me some krag

[whole furnace]

I mean every gun have its purpose and function.
So like, if you vibe with the Winnies, don't change.

Just understand what the upsides and downsides are

[void geode]

winnies are like ole reliable

[reef flame]

my favorite gun is the axe romero

[whole furnace]

That said, guns like the Winnies are standing quite weak in the overall meta atm.

[void geode]

its weird they changed the name i try to tell my friends to use the winny and they dont know what im talking abgout

and they also have like another version of it which i didnt know lol i thought the ranger and the infantry were the same thing

[covert drift]

rival + uppercut has got me through some many sticky situation. But maybe its just me.

[void geode]

shotgun plus long range pistol is also something that will probably never fail you lol

[reef flame]

i dont think ive ever even used the infantry

[void geode]

very very similar

[reef flame]

romero just feels so much better to me idk

[void geode]

i always go ranger for speed loader

[reef flame]

romero hatchet + uppercut precision my goto

[void geode]

why not bring full romero

with QM

[covert drift]

i like rival cause my aim sucks so if you miss the first you still have a chance 😄

[reef flame]

i like the axe

i got a skin 😎

[void geode]

if you bring the auto 5 you can actually miss up to 4 times

rapidly

[covert drift]

plus i like the look of rival... kinda doom supershotgun vibes

[reef flame]

ive heard good things about the specter/spectre? ill try that one today

[void geode]

spectre is really strong

maybe second best arguably

[reef flame]

when i do that i usually take officer carbine and the small shotgun

[void geode]

People usually take a rifle and then a short shotgun

because short shotguns have quite the range now

[whole furnace]

Fun fact: Romero HC have basically the same 1-tap range as 3-slot romero

[void geode]

yeah its a little silly

[reef flame]

so i know the pennyshot derringer is good because you can use it to just stand inside stuff and kill it fast but whats the main utility of the quadshot?

[whole furnace]

Being bad

[void geode]

uh the quad derringer is kinda just a meme item

[reef flame]

oh okay lmfao

but the pennyshot is amazing

[void geode]

pocket panic button

[whole furnace]

It had something going on for it pre-2.0
But now it is just not worth it

[reef flame]

does it say anywhere how much damage pulling out a spear or throwing knife/axe does?

[royal cloak]

🦦

[ivory cave]

My friends who got me into hunt play so infrequently now adays. Man I miss it when there was half a dozen of us ready to hop in at any moment.

[covert drift]

solo is the way

[reef flame]

same thing happened to me because they moved to arc

[ivory cave]

Solo is okay, but I miss the bsing and unique ways we all played.
Just doesn't hit the same.

[ivory cave]

[covert drift]

I get it, im in a same situation... we had a hunt break with a friend and dont play that much anymore so i started playing solo. It was fun with a friend but theres something intriguin playing solo and clapping duos alone 😄

[ivory cave]

I feel more immersed solo, but I also feel a deeper connection with others

[reef flame]

yesterday a solo killed my 2 teammates 1v2 and i got a lucky wallbang on him and then camped him with a shotgun until he got up and killed him again, is that the classic solo experience?

[covert drift]

prettu much 😄

when i die as a solo and hear that they camp me i dont even try to revive, i just leave

[frigid ibex]

Camp the body and burn it

[reef flame]

the dude tried to be fast tho i barely got to his body but he stood no chance against my 2m distance romero

[viscid needle]

Damn I just queued as a solo with my level 50 hunter trying to greed for bloodline xp instead of retiring and I somehow spawned between two trios who immediately noticed each other and by pure coincidence converged on my spawn to fight... Literally didn't even make it 4 minutes into the match.

[frigid ibex]

There's a window where they are stuck in revive animation

[viscid needle]

Worst part is I was kitted out with traps and in my panic I completely forgot to place any of em

Game said nah you die NOW

[covert drift]

my personal record as a solo was 26 seconds alive

[viscid needle]

Damn dude how?

[neat current]

This was fun

[viscid needle]

did you run into hellhounds and completely biff your shots?

[covert drift]

honestly dont remeber anymore how it happened...against players it happened but the 26 seconds are engraved in my eyes forever 😄

[neat current]

I had a big red square on my face the whole time we was trying to exfill

[void geode]

holy clips dump

[reef flame]

are you fighting iron man

[void geode]

using compact ammo no fmj across the map

[reef flame]

i run out of bullets if i go fmj officer

[neat current]

Yea it was cool.i got lots of crap clips like that

[void geode]

final boss of console

[deft panther]

I've killed someone within the first 20 seconds
Alaine and sons spawn, either side, if you get the spawn near lumber and run to the right just enough, you can see through the trees towards the little fishing hut that clue is usually in

Mix that with usual sniper gameplay and boom- fun times

[covert drift]

Nice. All i remember from my 26 seconds is that it was in the plantantion mansion...dont remember the comp name.

[deft panther]

Oh yep, pretty sure there's a spawn either side of it

There's also one up near scupper lake that is pretty much on top of each other
One to the north in the trees, one to the east next to the submerged tin roof house

[viscid needle]

Yeah some spawns are just way too close together

I almost just wiped a lobby but wiping the first few teams left me open to get killed by the final trio who had already banished their boss

felt so damn good though

[mild flower]

quad derringer is good for meme loadouts that struggle with downtime.

like maritni henry + dual sparks pistols

[viscid needle]

8 kills as a solo vis trios and duos feels so crazy

[mild flower]

it more often nowadays with all the solo buffs

but still impressive

especially if not ratting

[worn oak]

Coffee time. ☕

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption2dance-rdr2dance-red-dead-redemption-dance-video-game-gif-17741354

[viscid needle]

Well I use a hunting bow, cavalry saber, and traps so IDK if that counts as ratting or not but I killed them fair and square I'd say

I managed a res while the one guy was picking up his buddy and killed them both with my saber then trapped their bodies with concertinas and firebombed their third when he went to res em

It even brought my KDR up by .6 points

And that was on a fresh hunter I had Necro, Hundred Hands, Magpie, and Bloodless so basically no perks

[little widget]

i hope the post malone event won't be recycled and have new content + skins 😔

[ancient cave]

what I hope they've learned on is not making all the skins for him

like there was almost 0 thought into the community for the skins in the last one the event was made for him

theres a chance this second event has been decided closer to the last event than now though so

[covert drift]

these days i refuse to use any other hunter than punahilkka. I also refuse to call her anything other than punahilkka 😄

ok ok, its red riding hood

[deft panther]

I need to play solo more, although everytime I do I just play like in still in a group (so like an idiot)

I have a feeling we're only getting that 1 Postie skin, "deaths disciple" or whatever it is

[viscid needle]

If they add an actually good bow skin with the next event I will be happy

[deft panther]

The gun he was holding in the photo seems to be black and gold themed, so I'm interested in the weapons lineup

[ancient cave]

they should add skins for weapons that don't have skins

[covert drift]

am i the only one who dont like these golden/fancy skins? I prefer the gritty ones. Fits the game more.

[deft panther]

Im thinking we're getting more this style?
The sparks from the original MC

(I'm so buying this for BB's when it hits the store btw)

[full jungle]

Have fun waiting 6 years

[deft panther]

Didn't they confirm the old skins are coming to the store for the event in that blog post/email

[full jungle]

That skin is from like 3 events ago it’s not high up on the priority list

Likely gonna take a long ass time for it

[viscid needle]

Depends on the look you're going for both can be good. That being said the extremely gaudy gold rush themed skins looks awful IMO

[ancient cave]

aren't the mc skins non-mythic

wouldn't surprise me if they just reran em

[covert drift]

I bought the new dlc for the hunter but the krag skin it has is kinda awful imo.. dont remember the name but it was really gold and shiny.

[deft panther]

Oh, liliths skins look trash
People just like the sexy lady hunter

[covert drift]

exactly 😄

[viscid needle]

Oh yeah both her guns are fugly and don't match the goth looking cowgirl at all

that being said I do like the stamina shot and wish it wasn't locked behind a 10$ DLC I frankly don't want anything else from

[deft panther]

I like to match my skins in a loadout

[ancient cave]

I think it's in line with the fact she's trying to stray away from her cult dark vibes and be more in the light with how she styled her equipment.

[deft panther]

Almost 100% convinced the crypt seal set was unused assets from the ghost face weapons
Because these 2 look so good together in a loadout

[covert drift]

makes sense... but those are still trash looking imo

[viscid needle]

I have the Corvus Cavalry Saber from the winter event a few years back and I'd say it's pretty ritzy looking but I love it so much and it's perfect with Corvid:Bile who's my favourite hunter

[ancient cave]

thats fair, games 8 years old, can't have every skin appeal to everyone

[viscid needle]

Love my crow sword with my crow mask sociopath

Just wish there was a good bow skin that fit better than the default one which honestly isn't bad

And literally every bow skin is locked behind a DLC for some reason

[mild flower]

Calvary Saber instantly refutes any disrespect to you

[viscid needle]

LMAO that unpopular huh?

I've gotten plenty of kills with it

I even got two kills that match

[mild flower]

Yeah melee in general is very unpopular

[viscid needle]

But it's so good?

[mild flower]

Shotguns are just better for most

Melee is more popular on console tho

[reef flame]

melee? oh you mean the pennyshot derringer

[viscid needle]

It's silent, instakills, makes bossing way easier and is genuinely just a great option when someone gets the jump on you in close quarters

Yeah but shotguns are loud as fuck and instantly give my position away

[hazy crest]

Any player with two neurons to rub together running a shotgun, bow, bomb launcher, crossbow etc and your close range is invalidated

[mild flower]

When you go against meta players it's really hard to play melee against their auto 4 or other shotgun or penny shot derringer

Still a valid option for the fun factor

[viscid needle]

Yeah I'm just a 2* scrub playing for fun

[covert drift]

last time i used saber there was a couple of times i hit enemies with heavy attack but they didn tdi e:(

[mild flower]

Respectable

[viscid needle]

That shouldn't be possible?

Are you sure it connected?

[mild flower]

So is the "HUUGHH!!" whenever you melee unless you're running silent killer tbh

[covert drift]

i dunno... at least the enemy hunter yelp so i assume it hit. dont know for sure

[mild flower]

Iirc it didn't used to kill to limbs with heavy, but they buffed it so now it does.

[viscid needle]

Nah I meant like long range. Silent killer is redundant because they cry out when they die anyways making the silencing of the attack pointless

[covert drift]

oh ok, time to try again it seems.

[deft panther]

This. But with the infantry sniper, it's only skin has the exact same problem as lilith's skins, just way too many bright colors, it looks weird

[mild flower]

As in, for pve?

[viscid needle]

Oh I don't use it for pve unless I'm bossing I was talking about pvp

[covert drift]

yeah seems kinda out of place in hunt.

[mild flower]

I don't understand then. Why do you need PvP silence at range on a melee weapon

[viscid needle]

I have the bow for most pve encounters outside of bosses

[deft panther]

This is personally the only reason I'm scared for Murder Circus 2.0
Because that's the type of guns we got for the skins

[viscid needle]

When I get the drop on a guy and kill him with my sword it doesn't alert the whole map I'm there it's pretty niche but I care

[stone basin]

I like the clown shtuff and skins I dont mind a little bit of color in hunt compared to everyone wearing the same ghillie veteran hunter skins with a black mosin and black uppercut

[viscid needle]

I won't pretend like the bow isn't the better option in a lot of those cases where I could melee but I have had a couple situations where the relative silence of the sword was very nice and it's a lot more cheap and forgiving than something like a terminus if I'm trying for a revive blitz from being downed by a careless duo or trio

[deft panther]

There color, then there's "Hey look here, look at the brightly coloured highlighter gun that stands out against the background of this dark and gloomy window I'm in, look here, this one, right here!"

[mild flower]

Ah ok that's fair enough

[reef flame]

im bad and in my hands the bow is worse than that weird medium slot crossbow variant

[mild flower]

Chu ko nu

[reef flame]

i had a ton of fun with it ngl

[mild flower]

It's fun

[viscid needle]

I had tried so hard with various different rifles and switching over to the bow and playing more stealthy has completely changed the game for me

[mild flower]

The beautiful thing about hunt is that there's so many drastically different ways to play

[viscid needle]

My KDR was like .6 before I started using the hunting bow and I've managed to pull it back up to .95 in roughly a week.

[mild flower]

Yeah hunting bow is insane

[covert drift]

For me it went the other way around 😄

[viscid needle]

I experimented with using the hand crossbow as my secondary for the utility of it but I just wasn't using it to its full potential and I just love having the melee option so much

[covert drift]

I should play more with bow and get used to it cause its really good as a solo, i assume

[viscid needle]

Yeah it's fantastic for solo and for groups honestly

[reef flame]

i increased my kd by .25 in a single day with the officer carbine lmao

[viscid needle]

It can easily kill any non boss pve enemy in the game

even meatheads are a breeze with a hunting bow

[mild flower]

I'd say it's one of the best weapons in the game for solos and teams

Also so annoying to play against lol

[hazy crest]

It really needs a nerf

[mild flower]

You get that psychological damage

[mild flower]

Definitely

[viscid needle]

I easily clear the bileweaver nest with it too a quick flick shot will instakill the weavers and it has 16 bolts that you can pick right back up

[reef flame]

what type of nerf you thinking?

[hazy crest]

Once I know I’m fighting someone with a bow I’m scared to peek them because there’s a 50% chance I’m gonna get bodyshot killed the second I do

[viscid needle]

pro tip turn on hold to interact and it will make picking up your arrows so much easier/quicker

[mild flower]

It needs to be a 3 slot

[viscid needle]

Silence heathen don't ruin this for me

[mild flower]

It's already arguably stronger than crossbow, it doesn't need to be a smaller slot size than it

[viscid needle]

Okay I am totally fine with it being a three slot

that's 100% cool with me

10/10 suggestion

[mild flower]

Yeah your loadout is fully unaffected lol

[viscid needle]

XD

[deft panther]

I'd be fine with bow as a 3 slot tbh.
It big enough
Though I'm now wondering if slots are based on size or presumed weight 🤔

[hazy crest]

Also revert the 10% damage buff it got like a year and a half ago imo

[viscid needle]

Heresy

[deft panther]

Eh
Maybe not that far

[viscid needle]

If I doink you in the chest with a bow at full draw with hundred hands you deserve to perish for your sins

[hazy crest]

Not at 40 meters

[mild flower]

I'd say it's more of a balancing thing. Not really many rules.

[deft panther]

The amount of times I've been missed by a bow player and I've turned around and ended their life is kinda ridiculous
The 10% makes up for that I feel like

[mild flower]

So the fact that some bow players are bad makes it balanced?

[reef flame]

should i try to get good at bow so i can become comfortable with it just in time for it to get nerfed?

[mild flower]

From my experience it really doesn't take too long to get good at, so go ahead

[viscid needle]

Alright this has been fun chatting but I need to sleep I have work in 8 hours

[deft panther]

The fact that a good portion of people who try bow suck ass at it makes up for it 🤣

[viscid needle]

GN y'all

[mild flower]

Gn

[viscid needle]

Don't ruin my bow baby

[covert drift]

And im gonna go hunting solo now, wish me luck. bye.

[mild flower]

I don't think bow players being ass is a good balancing point for the weapon lmao

(not all of them)

[deft panther]

It's a monkey paw man, remove the bow 10% and all of a sudden Maynard silencer gets purchasable dum dum back

Then next thing you know, shotguns get a 5m range buff

[reef flame]

wall piercing poison ammo

[deft panther]

I think I'd cry tbh

[mild flower]

That's not a monkey's paw, monkey's paw is meant to be ironic

Maybe if bow got nerfed indirectly by a bad blanket change

Krag and Maynard silencer...

[reef flame]

is it just me or does it feel like beetles have become way more popular past week?

like yesterday a team used 2 in the spawn fight against us

[mild flower]

Maybe challenges

[reef flame]

oh i havent really paid attention to those

[raven totem]

I doubt it'll get nerfed

Bow also isn't everything some people claim it is

It's good to learn things though, nothing wrong with trying to get used to something new

[normal radish]

Bow is strong, but not op

has many drawbacks

many strengths

[forest holly]

[forest holly]

Is that a bow pun?

[ionic walrus]

had a teammate

just now

try to shoot a double barrel

3 times

[forest holly]

I also only reload when I hear the click

[forest holly]

Were u spectating?

[normal radish]

pun intended yes

[forest holly]

good one

[timber trench]

Is the game going down for maintenance tonight?

[mild flower]

Heh, drawbacks.
But seriously I do think it is OP in the traditional sense. Maybe not in the way people have interpreted it nowadays

It is overpowered/overtuned but not as absurdly overpowered as overpowered is sometimes considered

Would definitely be more balanced as a 3 slot.

[mild flower]

Also it is 2 drawbacks, idk if I'd say that's many

One of them doesn't matter at all in its effective range and the other matters much less in its effective range.

[normal radish]

wind up time, movement penalty, needs a perk to fully function, has no pen.

thats 4

and each of them makes it more situational than previous

[tawny shoal]

Did anyone catch what the maintenance time was? Was just playing it came up but didnt pay attention to it

[sly thicket]

it says 60 min

in 60

[tawny shoal]

Thank you

[queen shore]

for me it showed and it was like 4000 minutes or some

[mild flower]

There's a maintenance? When how long why?

[queen shore]

idk i was just playing and saw there will be maintance in 4000 minutes some number like that +- was bit more

they will announce prob soon

they do usually maintances in mornings around 8-9 am

[mild flower]

So do any mods feel like thumbs down reacting the murder circus announcement to see how many other people do it.. just curious 🧐

We gotta see how many haters there are ya know

[mild flower]

Timezones

[ionic walrus]

yes

he shot

shot again

then ads at them

and shot a 3rd time

but click

[mild flower]

Drilling?

[scarlet plinth]

What are the downsides of new army

[sick bramble]

no battle experience

[tall canopy]

Velocity

[scarlet plinth]

[mild flower]

Low velocity

[mild flower]

what are you comparing it to, officer?

[sinful aurora]

honestly low velo is it's biggest downside but also something you can practice to compensate.

[sour halo]

new army swift is super good

tbh double action pistols are the best you can get

without investing on traits

[mild flower]

only within its range

but it is paired with long range primaries

[mild flower]

nah, dolch still dominates the pistol category

[sinful aurora]

drop range is a different metric which would apply to officer/dolch/bornheim as well.

[sour halo]

but it has special ammo, you need bullet gruber etc.

[mild flower]

i mean that past a certain range your shots are completely dependant on RNG with low velocity. but that doesn't hurt new army much because it is paired with ranged rifles

[mild flower]

You don't need bulletgrubber at all

[sour halo]

double action pistols don't require anything

[sour halo]

no?

[mild flower]

bulletgrubber applies to it, but it doesn't need it. nothing really needs bulletgrubber, it's not a very good trait imho

[sour halo]

and in any case, one costs like 80 the other more than 600

[mild flower]

yeah i wish price mattered

per hunter budget depending on level or smth else would be great

[sour halo]

if you're forced into special ammo, I wouldn't disregard it though

[sour halo]

per hunter budget would be great

[mild flower]

maybe if you are missing with it a lot and not bringing ammo box it's understandable

[mild flower]

right now, price just serves to gatekeep weapons from newbies

everyone else is unaffected by it

or slow prestigers

[sinful aurora]

i wouldn't say completely RNG, it just gets infinitely harder to compensate for.
i've been playing with FMJ conversion for ages which has a mv of 270 and fighting at 100+ meters is possible though far from optimal.
I've done a new army FMJ headshot the other day at a similar range where it took half a second for me to get the hitmarker, i thought i missed at first xD

[sour halo]

they should remove the prestige and add per hunter budget

[whole mist]

Im starting to take bullet grubber more now whenever i run mosin or bornheim. It just gets annoying throwing ammo on the ground

[mild flower]

You can improve your chances with practice, but it is complete luck at long range unless you can read the mind of your enemies to figure out what movement they're about to do
which is humanly impossible to do with 100% accuracy

as a low muzzle velocity enjoyer this is

[sinful aurora]

what i am saying, luck is involved, because you can only compensate so much, but it's not complete luck

[mild flower]

bulletgrubber is a definetely a convenient QoL trait

[mild flower]

I think we agree, my wording is just unclear. What I mean is that no matter what you do, whether you hit at such range is definetely and absolutely going to be dependant on luck

[sinful aurora]

ye

[mild flower]

prediction can help

but there is a line between prediction and seeing the future

[normal radish]

i disagree

you can literaly practice

and learn to lead

hunt is not the only game with leading

[mild flower]

and there is no human way to know whether your opponent will jump, duck, melee, turn around, strafe etc when you pull the trigger.

[normal radish]

you can estimate their movement

[mild flower]

exactly. you can estimate, but you can never be sure, especially against players with good unpredictable dodging. Which is why luck is always involved

[sinful aurora]

thats correct all predictions are made from extrapolating a players current movement, any changes in a players movement after the bullet is shot can make the shot miss because you can not change the bullets trajectory after it has been shot.

[mild flower]

you can get better, but you can't completely nil out that luck factor

[mild flower]

ty

well put

[normal radish]

thats not 100% dependent on luck

thats like 10%

also you can count for height change when they jump

[mild flower]

if they jump before you shoot, yeah

[normal radish]

even after they shoot there is only so much area they can cover

[mild flower]

I think there is misunderstanding again, I don't mean that you can't decrease the luck factor with practice, just that there is no way to completely remove it. There is always luck, but luck is not all there is

[normal radish]

i think i understood it clear here

thats just wrong

[mild flower]

@scarlet plinth

new army downsides and upsides compared to officer

1 less bullet and slower velo

[normal radish]

you said sth different from this though

[mild flower]

can you quote the sentence

[normal radish]

absolutely luck dependent

excuse my french but to my understanding that means luck is the dominant factor here

which i think it simply isnt

id use "relatively luck dependent"

[mild flower]

Ah I'm not sure if maybe that's the formal meaning, but what I mean there is that it's completely, beyond doubt, luck dependant [to a degree]

[normal radish]

yeh thats about right, you missed to a degree the first time i guess

and that degree varies

person to person

[regal wasp]

You only use new army because of the custom ammo tbf

That's why I never understood why they added officer dumdum

[mild flower]

also more consistent two tap

officer cant two tap arms iirc

or was it that it cant two tap arm-chest

[mild flower]

agree! you can decrease the luck factor but can't remove it

[regal wasp]

With the current modifiers I think every gun except for Bornheim can 2tap arm+chest

[mild flower]

idk thesaurus says absolutely means "certainly, without question" but english is an interpretive language or something so I gave up on focussing too much on definitions

english is kind of dumb and wishy washy

[mild flower]

also i agree custom ammo bloat is bad

and getting worse

[mild flower]

dont forget derringer :(

[regal wasp]

Aktchually it's a tool 🤓

[mild flower]

still a gun

[astral moss]

But its a tool.

[mild flower]

you said gun not weapon 🤓

[mild flower]

it's a tool and a gun, like how pistols are guns and weapons

[astral moss]

Cant be a gun since its a tool.

[regal wasp]

It's a tool that propells lead with high velocity via gunpowder combustion

[mild flower]

no comment because I'm 60% sure you are being sarcastic and 40% not

[regal wasp]

Never assume that I am not being sarcastic

[astral moss]

I am 100% sure he is right.

[mild flower]

he is because he described what a gun is

[astral moss]

Yes, but its a tool.

[mild flower]

yea

gun tool

[hasty vector]

anyone from balkan (cro,serb,bih) wants team up?

[jaunty patio]

#eu is the channel to ask about that, you'll get people joining up easier

[cursive marlin]

Bruh the people saying that the clowns don’t fit hunt aesthetics aren’t that bright. The circus was in its prime during that time

[jaunty patio]

Ah I see you already did lol 😅

[sick bramble]

what's bih?

[hasty vector]

bosnia

[sick bramble]

oh ok

[rose raven]

Lol great game crytek! disconnected from crytek servers mid match now Im dead!

[cursive marlin]

Just get your money up and play optimally on ps5

[sick bramble]

sacrifice mouse and keyboard for controller? no thanks

is that even allowed?

[hasty vector]

anyone from balkan (cro,serb,bih) wants team up? (pm me on discord)

[cursive marlin]

Yes it is. It’s been done before and for other games as well

[sick bramble]

wtf

it sure gives you an advantage over others with controller tho

[cursive marlin]

I played bo6 like that

[cursive marlin]

Yes but it’s not a Cronus or any cheating tech so it’s fair game

[rose raven]

crazy how arc raiders reconnect feature works and hunts been out since 2017 and I still load into a match with nothing but floating objects

[cursive marlin]

Just a lot of people don’t know you can hook up mnk kn consoles

[icy bay]

Thats a consol problem not crytecs

[sick bramble]

mouse tracking vs controller tracking, how is it fair?

[cursive marlin]

Consoles allow it

[sick bramble]

that's wild

[cursive marlin]

I also played baldurs gate 3 with keyboard on console bc it’s better for that game

[sick bramble]

does Sony officially allow it even for multiplayer games?

what about xbox

[cursive marlin]

Xbox definitely allows it as it’s a setting in consoles

For ps5 hunt technically doesn’t support it

So it could be looked at as cheating

There are ways to bypass it but I wouldn’t recommend it

[sick bramble]

does Sony allow it tho?

for mp games

[cursive marlin]

For some games yes

Look it up

Like call of duty for example it allows it

Tho you’d be at disadvantage

[sick bramble]

if i ever get a console this will be the number one issue that'll annoying me

other people using m&k

[cursive marlin]

It’s more common than you think

[sick bramble]

so u have mouse tracking + aim assist xd

that's basically an aimbot

[cursive marlin]

Pretty much yeah

[icy bay]

And thats why never crosplay between pc and consol

[cursive marlin]

I wish there was on hunt

Cross play would get people into games so much faster

[sick bramble]

in that case the console players with m&k will have more advantage. the irony lol

[cursive marlin]

Guys disregard what I said about mnk on consoles for hunt it is cheating and I don’t condone it

[cursive marlin]

Look I have to let it be known

I can’t go down for that

[empty eagle]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-typing-gif-9366919

Taking a screenshot and sending it to CS as we speak

(joking)

[cursive marlin]

LMAO

[empty eagle]

Get em boys

[hasty vector]

Forming team from balkans (cro,serb,bosnia) add me on steam if you're interested 176526213

[cursive marlin]

I wanna try a Balkan breakfast

[sick bramble]

btw is there aim assist for hunt for consoles? or is it disabled?

[stone basin]

There is but most play with it off because ai exists

[cursive marlin]

There 100 percent is. I can testify to that.

[sick bramble]

wym?

[cursive marlin]

I don’t think it’s as strong as people think tho

[stone basin]

Sometimes when you are trying to aim for a person while peeking through a window or door or someone sitting still crouching a walking grunt will take priority while you are steadying your aim so it will drag your gun where the grunt is walking and mess up your aim so most people I know play with it off

[sick bramble]

i see, makes sense

[hollow zealot]

anyone know when the bloodbond shop resets?

[stone basin]

It used go be every Wednesday but im not sure anymore

[low raptor]

look what I found, it's possible to find such weapons wow

lebel marksman

[jaunty patio]

It's been Monday for quite a while, you can look on reddit for people announcing new 48bb sales to see around the time it changes.
This week however it's changing daily.

[normal radish]

yes

been like that for sometime

[low raptor]

when you want lots of interaction

crazy game

if this is really scuffed like this idk if I want another match

[raven totem]

you had a full showdown

[low raptor]

yeah

[raven totem]

whats wrong with that?

[low raptor]

intense

[raven totem]

it can be ya

you get used to it

[rose raven]

Thanks again crytek

[fair ledge]

Hello, i couldnt find the skins I bought before (it was spear and more). Did they remove it or what ?

[hollow zealot]

I remember last week I checked and it reset either friday or saturday since I checked thursday

I'm mostly talking about the 50 bb deals though

no new ones in this shop and it looks like the same discounts are still active just with some new bundles

[jaunty patio]

Check if you have filters active in your skin selection, that can cause skins you own to not appear in the menu.

[fair ledge]

lol ty

[hollow zealot]

I wish they just had a skin library

it's really annoying to have to check every weapon to know what skins you have

[jaunty patio]

It's one of the most requested UI functions I see on here, ye

[hollow zealot]

and a filter to toggle seeing old event skins

[hollow zealot]

I swear pre 1896 you could see what skins you had

[jaunty patio]

You could, yeah

It was its own tab next to the store

[hollow zealot]

so weird to remove that

[mild flower]

i am fine with the clowns but tbf "aesthetics" isn't the same as "time period"

[cursive marlin]

Me personally I think they do fit. Hunt stopped being the same aesthetic after the first holiday event

So just embrace it bc it’s never going back to drab hunt again

[jaunty patio]

Nah, giving good criticism about what the community thinks fits with Hunt or doesn't will help Crytek make more popular changes in the future. Being too permissive just means they'll make more mistakes without ways to learn from them. You can see how survey responses and other criticism has shaped their aesthetic this year, moving back to clean, nice looking guns and western looking Hunters more than bizarro types. Even what little we've seen of Post Malone's new skin looks like it fits much more with 2019-2022 Hunt.
Hunt stayed consistent with its aesthetic (with small outliers here and there) up until around mid 2023, that's when you really notice the Hunters start being weird with Granny, wayward helmsman, The demented pact, Literal Santa, the cosplaying tv show Vikings, Kendoka, Ghost Face, the clowns, etc. They got experimental in that period.

[astral moss]

I am allowed to be mad about the fact that we got the same event just a few month after ?

[young panther]

no

[astral moss]

; (

Idk why they force with PM cosmetic tho.

[young panther]

is post making a return?

[astral moss]

#general-announcements message Look like it.

Another 15 skin with his logo on it.

[fathom shale]

You haven't seen a single skin other than Post himself and one lebel (seemingly) so far

And it's been a year

[young panther]

[astral moss]

I can count the amount of "PM" logo on the last event if you want.

[fathom shale]

That is not relevant to this event though is it?

I know how many there were, I also didn't like it

[astral moss]

i don't think it will be different, but i can be wrong.

[fathom shale]

But they have seen the feedback people provided of the previous skins and all we can hope for is that the feedback was taken into account

[jaunty patio]

The marketing (all one image and one video) for this event so far is much more subdued than the bombastic style of Murder Circus 1, I imagine the skins might continue to reflect that.
Even in the initial teaser images last year, it was bright day and colorful posters. This time it's dark and gritty and dilapidated.

[astral moss]

As i see it from now, its the Hill billy skin with the face of post malone.

Not really hyped for that.

[fathom shale]

Which hill billy are we talking about?

Looks like a very normal hunter by Hunt's standards to me, if anything more tame than most

Closer to the OG tier 3 skins

[raven totem]

dbd cross over for hillbilly when?

[astral moss]

Idk the name of the skin.

[raven totem]

ngl I'd love a hills have eyes style disfigured hunter

[astral moss]

No, you got Post Malone face on 2 skin, are you happy ?

[raven totem]

I'm not butt hurt

[jaunty patio]

We kinda got a Hunt style version of that with The Infected and Death Mask. Mutant cave people is more of a post-war fear than a southern gothic one.

[raven totem]

yee

but theres other stuff rather than just nuclear stuff. hunchback hunter when?

infected is great though

[woven cape]

WAIT

They're doing another post event ?

[raven totem]

ya

[woven cape]

I wanna

Fucking

[raven totem]

shredder is comming back as well

[woven cape]

NO IT IS NOT

FUCK OFF

[jaunty patio]

Somehow, Post Malone returned

[raven totem]

from the land of dead it seems

[mild flower]

pretty sure they said they were bringing it back with careful balance adjustments

[raven totem]

we'll see what that means

[mild flower]

3x faster rate of fire and 2 drum mags probably

[jaunty patio]

Shredder is getting revamped so I'm hoping it's a very heavy revamp to the point it's not similar at all to its initial version.
A single-shot sawblade crossbow would be much cooler than the weird automatic sawblade launcher with explosive sawblades.

[raven totem]

I can't wwait to run my clown skins nonstop

[woven cape]

I made a mistake checking announcements

[mild flower]

I'd be fine with it being a 3 shot capacity magazine

[woven cape]

My life was much better in #off-topic

[raven totem]

I'm interested in seeing what crytek says is carefully balanced. if it kills people in any way there will be someone that crys it's breaking the game so

[woven cape]

Christmas event ?
Snow ?
Post Malone 2 ?

[random nimbus]

[astral moss]

Yes plz.

[mild flower]

why not all of them at once

[woven cape]

Why do we need another Post Malone event

[jaunty patio]

When they nerfed the launcher and upped the price it basically disappeared overnight so I think if it's well balanced this time we'll see it about as often as we see the Homestead 78

[woven cape]

When instead we could have Snoop dog

[astral moss]

Good question.

[raven totem]

it was rushed because people where freaking out, and kinda rightfully so, is what it is, lets see how it's cooked for a year

perhaps Delaney gave good input in

[mild flower]

is delaney the good cop for the community

i forget

david is the guy who everyone hates on right?

[raven totem]

not everyone

Delaney is a 14000 hour hunt streamer turned hunt dev

Dudes a fucking animal

[jaunty patio]

Probably, I haven't heard people rag on him like they did with Fifield. Really, I haven't heard much disparaging of any figureheads this year which is a nice change.

[random nimbus]

Is that why we're getting new mosin skins?

[mild flower]

people be people, need someone to pin problems on

the figurehead is probably the most obvious person to pin them on tbf

[raven totem]

thinking of all the finger pointing, and the reaction to really everything crytek releases, we've become kinda of a crappy community as a whole

[mild flower]

it was all downhill since 1896

or the first murder circus

in terms of the community, perhaps in terms of the game too but that's another debate

[random nimbus]

Tbf, I think some of it is because they've made a lot of horrible decisions lately.

[mild flower]

definetely

[jaunty patio]

I think if we were really a crappy community people would've been hating more on Judgement of the Fool and Web of the Empress. Garden of the Witch got a reasonable amount of complaints for not feeling like an event but it didn't cause massive discourse like Murder Circus and Ghostface did.
People still get hype for events they like and wary about ones they don't.

[fathom shale]

Also if you want to see an actual crappy community look at something like the helldivers 2 community and how they behave regarding balance and some of the devs behind balance

[frank fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/novacandy-post-malone-posty-happy-dance-country-gif-15041295986520822311

[random nimbus]

Arc Raiders has a pretty crappy online community too

[raven totem]

Does the Arc raiders community even have an identity yet?

[random nimbus]

And I'm not talking about the PvE vs PvP debates

[raven totem]

it's like 3 weeks old

[random nimbus]

Go to the discord and it's mad toxic.

Also very unregulated

[raven totem]

most official discords are asssssss

[stone basin]

Sounds familiar

[random nimbus]

For Honor was also a super toxic community

[raven totem]

this is well kept, always has been. one of the main reasons I've stuck around here

[random nimbus]

And discord

I remember in the For Honor discord, I said something about not liking the offensive changes and a mod called me trash and muted me for 10 minutes lol

[raven totem]

god damn lol

ya like I said, most official discords are ass

[random nimbus]

It's a game on life support, so I don't feel i lost much leaving after that lol

[raven totem]

I don't touch anything ubi

[random nimbus]

I loved For Honor years ago

Then it became too competitive and unfun

[normal radish]

ubi was not like this, its sooo sad to see it in this pitiful miserable quagmire

[random nimbus]

I can sympathize with Crytek to an extent as well. The sweatiest players and the casuals tend to want very different things and have very different perspectives on balance

You can never please both.

[normal radish]

its better to look for something in the middle

make a game like hunt too casual, and even casuals are gonna be disgusted

[random nimbus]

I personally think balancing should lean towards the higher skill players because they exploit things to the highest extent

But you can't ignore the casuals/average player issues all the time

[woven cape]

Even if I haven't played the game much this year, I like when they make their own stuff I'm a disliker of Ayooo Post Malone in Hunt lets gooooooo SEASONS CHANGE AND I LOVE WHEN IT COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

[woven cape]

If I were Kutie, I would have done the same

[random nimbus]

Is was someone with an ' I ' at the start of their name

[woven cape]

Ikutie

[random nimbus]

Yup, him.

[woven cape]

He's my fwiend uwu

[random nimbus]

Bro was a total manchild lol

[jaunty patio]

Fight fight fight

[woven cape]

He's quite known in the for honor community in general, only plays duels, very good at the game, but he has a shit attitude

[random nimbus]

So the perfect discord mod stereotype lol

[cursive marlin]

Almost a year bruh

[woven cape]

He also doesn't like the game that much because so many characters are ass at high level or only have a few viable moves

And there are still reactable moves which make certain players able to just stare at you

But that's only for 1% of the gamers

[random nimbus]

Which is like 40 people because the game hasn't grown in ages.

But we're gonna get bonked

[woven cape]

I have my yearly month of For Honor, I'm not very good at it despite having like 600 hours

I also only play Dominion like a good boy

[proven raptor]

I only play for the orders to get moola :)

[woven cape]

Dw For Honor 2 or For Honor X or For Glory is coming

It'll get announced next year ong fr fr

[proven raptor]

Shaman on sale rn, I ́m awful with her but she ́s funny.

[fathom shale]

[woven cape]

gulp

[random nimbus]

Bonk them, not me!

[fathom shale]

These don't sound like hunter names

[proven raptor]

But Centurion the goat.

[woven cape]

Bonk me, I can take it

[astral moss]

Not enough.

[random nimbus]

[woven cape]

ELO LERI OFF TOPIC NOW

[raven totem]

Where gun skins?

[astral moss]

When melee skin ?

Imagine a katana with Post Malone logo, i wont use it.

[raven totem]

Katana op, you should be ashamed....

[astral moss]

I am. 😔

[spark plaza]

Amogus