hunt-general

[mild flower]

Real

[whole furnace]

While we are there, make bow 3-slot.

[mild flower]

If bow was 3 slot I'd definitely use it, I do pretty well with it and it's fun but don't use it because it feels immoral to use it in its current state

[unique trail]

I redeemed the codes and then went through all my weapons, consumables, and items to select skins I have acquired

From past twitch events and such. Was just curious to see what all I had

[random nimbus]

[sick temple]

Its the perk that makes it broken, tbh

"broken" for a melee, ofc

Not only you can reset without stamina

but the problem is how wide it is

you can cut people off camera, which is kinda silly

You no longer need to aim properly with saber, since all heavies will kill (all melees were buffed some time ago)

So now you dont meet a player that jumps sideways and stabs your face

they die either way, even if you hit limbs

[ancient whale]

If only that applied to bayonets.

[sick temple]

I mean, what ironically sucks the most are medium bayonets / bow melee

125 damage with an slow reset and lesser range

At least with big bayonets you can OHK if you hit properly

At least you can poison enemies if you melee them with bow and have that ammo (lol)

(totally useless)

[south shore]

Theyve always been there. Are you feeling well?

[whole furnace]

That they have not :)

[south shore]

I think you need to lie down

Youre talking crazy

[whole furnace]

Case and point

[south shore]

I see them in the video

[whole furnace]

Cant gaslight outta this one

[south shore]

Theyre right there

I see the problem

Hes cockeyed

He never noticed

[whole furnace]

Abelism much? :V

[sick temple]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

maynard double hv

[south shore]

A man that needs glasses

[sick temple]

stinky

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-lips-funny-weird-gif-12573971

[patent tusk]

Kora! We can’t say those words anymore!

[south shore]

What words

[patent tusk]

Those words

👀

lol

[south shore]

Whats the official term for it then

[patent tusk]

McCree-itis

[south shore]

Mmmmmm

I see I see

Hes got Mcritis.

😔

[patent tusk]

It’s terminal🥺

[south shore]

[patent tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-pouting-look-down-gif-14564562

[gilded frost]

Hunt showdown is getting to my head man oh my god

I cant live without it

Its like crack

[copper zodiac]

Changed my name to

“Lemme join Aww”

Y’all think it’ll work?

[chrome vector]

Why do I only ever find Berserker on my non-melee characters? 😭

[slow thunder]

It's the law
Melee chooses you, not the other way around

Let it flow through you

Feel the rage bear it's ugly head, and turn it into power

Or something

[chrome vector]

That’s nice, melee, but can you choose me when I’m running like, a katana, or an axe, and not two guns and some brass knucks?

[desert acorn]

If I find a good trait, I respect my character. The game gives you too many trait points, anyway.

Best kill of the night for me... two guys came to the boss compound where my friend and I had taken up residence. Whoever killed the boss took off. We had the other bounty. One of them was a noob, and tried to force the barred door open. I was pondering whether to open it for him, then got a headshot through the door. I wasn't aiming for the head, but it still felt real good.

Long ammo is nice, sometimes.

[simple basin]

Frags man, they hit you through walls, but don't damage enemies at all when right on top of em

Someone explain

[gilded frost]

RNG

[simple basin]

Yepp

Also the servers have had hella latency issues past week

[dreamy cave]

Why does barb wire break on its own sometimes?

[random nimbus]

Don't think I've seen that before

[sick bramble]

must've been the wind

[patent tusk]

Someone musta put a bucket or cauldron on their head, shame to see it happening again😞

[next plank]

My hunt showdown isn’t launching 🙂 it’s on a black screen every time

I fixed it finally🙂‍↕️

[viscid epoch]

!drops

[graceful hedge]

Information about twitch drop campaigns can be found here: https://www.huntshowdown.com/twitchdrops

[dreamy cave]

!droplist

[graceful hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420219125198225408/1428521683651788840/image.png?ex=68f2cdfe&is=68f17c7e&hm=c2a42ec12cfc3aa29e7bf92c0e30ace9326176e085c8fa5243d0ac508b9d8bdb&

[viscid epoch]

wow i missed like,almost all the drops

only participated one week

[dreamy cave]

Damn bummer

[viscid epoch]

got a romero skin tho

[dreamy cave]

Always next time

[viscid epoch]

pretty cool

[dreamy cave]

Hell yeah

Romero rocks

I like the lock and key skin for it

[viscid epoch]

some free legendry hunters would be nice

but oh well

[real fog]

Can you single shot the avtomat now? Just got killed by a guy shooting it from 100m out single shooting it

Main account btw

[dreamy cave]

No

[real fog]

Yeah nice bro prestige level 77 btw

[mild flower]

do you know for sure they were single shooting it? How many times in a row if so?

it's technically possible to shoot it one time if you manage to load just one bullet in.

[static briar]

Do I get a different reward for the prestieges where I already unlocked the skin?

[mild flower]

i just got got by the poison cloud bug on solo necromancer

[ancient cave]

nope

[whole girder]

You can load one bullet if u have one bullet left in a sparks pistol

[fleet adder]

I think the only possible way to load a single bullet into avtomat is if you are completely out of ammo and only have a single bullet in reserve

[real fog]

I figured it out he was using obrez drum but he was just wallbanging my position every time and VOIPing "cao ni ma" lmaoo

[raven totem]

It's a darksight cancel that eats 3 bullets

[real fog]

Interesting

[left orbit]

the first bullet should go straight like any other gun. also avto sound sometimes is bugged

[raven totem]

Still has inaccuracy though

It can hit, or it'll veer

It's chance

[mild flower]

they patched that out.

doesnt work anymore.

[real fog]

So it's not really viable to be darksight canceling it like how old gun swap was with darksight cancel

[mild flower]

it's patched

[real fog]

Ohh

Well thats weird then he did single shoot it

[raven totem]

I'll have to double check when I get home

[mild flower]

you just said it was obrez drum though

[real fog]

Yea that was the 100m out shots

[mild flower]

you don't :P

[real fog]

But when I died to him it was a single shot from avto like 15 meters out

[raven totem]

I don't do it because it's innovative and I always run obrez w avto

[mild flower]

still possible, if he had only 1 bullet left in the gun

[raven totem]

Ye

[real fog]

He did not shoot it previously I didn't know he had avto until I died

[raven totem]

Last I knew they patched it to eat full three bullets, again, I'll have to check

[mild flower]

@raven totem here's what happens if you try to do the darksight cancel currently.

me holding darksight from the moment i pull the trigger

[leaden herald]

maybe there's a new way to do it

[raven totem]

Wonder when they did that

[mild flower]

i tried weapon swap, didnt work

[leaden herald]

before today

[mild flower]

nor melee

nor inspect

nor all at the same time

[raven totem]

Could have been obrez, could be avoided sound bugging out, we'd have to see a clip I guess

[mild flower]

@real fog here is an example of how he could have single fired the avto [dont mind me missing..]

1 bullet in the gun

[real fog]

Man I wish I had clipping on

If you'd q bounty clash in russia servers, you would get him and see what Im talking about

[mild flower]

#bug-reports-pc message

does anyone know if crytek is aware of this? i've seen a few reports for it

people have already started abusing it with hand crossy poison

[leaden herald]

bro missed a stationary enemy

[leaden herald]

I'm sure all the duos and trios are happy about it

[mild flower]

i couldnt see its head thru the dark and the ping ok 😭

[leaden herald]

right the ping

[random nimbus]

[leaden herald]

not that I haven't also missed dummies

[mild flower]

I usually play duos and trios and I am certainly not happy about it. It's a bug

[twilit rivet]

A trio used 3 hangman cards and 2 fire beetles and extracted after killing me as a solo (after killing me, which was an empty lobby), and i downed 2 of them before dying, talking about you suck 💀

Whats with the community

[trail stream]

Is that a carbine skin ?

[leaden herald]

yes

one with a scope

[trail stream]

Scope with the skin or the scope comes with carbine?

[leaden herald]

it seems to be a skin for the scoped version of the carbine

[trail stream]

Aha ok

Scoped carbine is good ?

[leaden herald]

no comment

[random nimbus]

It's pretty good for fishing for headshots. But if you like the skin, use it.

DE scopes no longer have the scope movement penalty

[stone basin]

I use it when I haven’t played in a second to get my aim back to being good because going for bodies with it kinda sucks but headshots are amazing with it and is good practice to only aim for the head

[bitter wyvern]

I'm tired of randoms picking fights they can't win. What are you going to do in a 1 v 3?

I'm telling my team to run, but they want to stay and fight, only to get gunned down.

Immediately. At this point, I need to start leaving people behind. XD

[dense surge]

anybody else get dced and cant get back in?

[leaden herald]

Did you check your internet connection

[bitter wyvern]

3 bad games in a row...

I think I should just quit.

[raven totem]

I put team runners on a steam notes list to dodge

[bitter wyvern]

Huh?

[left orbit]

it's nothing really
do take a break though, it's fine

[raven totem]

People that just dip at the earliest convenience, that's one of the worst random offenses

[fleet adder]

Thats somethin liiiiight

[opal dawn]

You play like 99% randos right?

[bitter wyvern]

Honestly, I'm thinking of just replacing this game with Arc Raiders.

[raven totem]

Used to

[bitter wyvern]

There's no amount of breaks that can fix a loss streak.

[fleet adder]

play both as god intended

[raven totem]

I'm pretty over random tbh

[bitter wyvern]

I can't do solo. It's too frustrating to deal with honestly. Problem is, I know how to play it well. But I'm more likely to just not extract. I went at least 15 games solo and not once did I like it. I only extracted once.

[raven totem]

I developed a lot of my own rules with randoms

[bitter wyvern]

And randoms kinda suck too.

[scenic plinth]

just let go, if you never expect them to be good, then any time they are good its a pleasant suprise, but if they suck its just normal

[opal dawn]

Found a crew? Nothin' beats that

I haven't dared done much randos in EU, english varies wildly and there's a good chance someone just hates you for being from a certain country

[vocal zealot]

I got hated on earlier for being "gay" cause of my name lol

They both ran off to extract then started talking crap right before they left

[opal dawn]

lmao, some people are just so insecure and hateful

[bitter wyvern]

may they have my loss streak.

[opal dawn]

How does one be a femboy AND a sparks? Replaced an arm with it or something? 🤔

[random nimbus]

He used to be a femboi with a Martini

But he joined the right side now, and the randoms couldn't handle it.

[bitter wyvern]

Ugh. One more time.

[opal dawn]

With I get, AND something I don't

[bitter wyvern]

I can't give up, it's not in my soul.

Also, side question, Berthier good or nah?

[brazen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[opal dawn]

It's good. 21 rounds of ammo, 133 damage, 590m/s

[bitter wyvern]

I've never tried it before.

[random nimbus]

Berthier is amazing

[opal dawn]

It's the one 3-slot rifle with the highest amount of spare ammo

Also gets 15 rounds of spitzer if you wanna try that

[random nimbus]

It has the same total ammo as the Martini with the same ammo splitting capacity

And you can bypass needing bulletgrubber even more than other bolties

[bitter wyvern]

That sounds fantastic for the bulletgrubber thing alone.

[vocal zealot]

Sure, we'll go with that

[random nimbus]

Bulletgrubber isn't really needed on any weapons besides the Dolch and Bornheim

But berthier can't do partials without dropping ammo

[vocal zealot]

Lebel, Terminus

[random nimbus]

Not needed at all.

[opal dawn]

I don't find bulletgrubber to be needed with any weapon tbh

[mild flower]

For long ammo you mean.

[random nimbus]

All bolties besides the Berthier can do partials

[vocal zealot]

I like having bullet, so idk lol

[scenic plinth]

probably juuuuust the bornheim silenced

[opal dawn]

One of those sell at first convenience trait

[random nimbus]

And berthier can swap ammo to bypass the lack of partials

[opal dawn]

Mayhaps

[random nimbus]

Terminus can't partial when levering, but that's kinda specific. It doesn't need it otherwise

[scenic plinth]

just keep blasting to empty even after they die

[random nimbus]

Granted that's probably the only reason you want the terminus

But that thing fell off hard after the levering nerf

And crown exists

[mild flower]

If only terminus was valid outside of levering

It's cool

[opal dawn]

Terminus is the Temu Crown

[random nimbus]

One major issue is the slow speed when levering

[vocal zealot]

I get kills with it often

[mild flower]

No, that's specter atp.

[random nimbus]

You move at a snails pace

[opal dawn]

Nuh, it don't shoot as quick

[mild flower]

They buffed its firerate it shoots ridiculously fast rn

[random nimbus]

I don't think there's a bad shotgun atm. But terminus kinda needs levering to be relevant among its competition

[opal dawn]

NUH

[opal dawn]

Yeah it's good, my go-to shotty

[random nimbus]

And levering terminus struggles to push

[mild flower]

Literally nobody asked for the specter firerate buff.

Such a dumb change

[opal dawn]

A small RoF buff would be OK, but now it's almost slate levels fast

[random nimbus]

The specter was getting payback for the years of Slate dominance

[mild flower]

No it literally IS slate fast.

[opal dawn]

Someone yesterday said the slate is faster, only slightly

Could've been drunk

[mild flower]

Or I am

[opal dawn]

Nvm, I'll check for myself in shooty range when I get home

I think it is

[random nimbus]

The difference likely won't matter much

They both shoot quick as hell

[mild flower]

Can't you just check stats

[mild flower]

Imo they should nerf the firerate of all the shotguns except rival and romero. Make "baiting the shot" an actual valid counterplay

[opal dawn]

I don't know which website has the correct stats rn

[random nimbus]

I wouldn't nerf crown speeds, but I would want its kill consistency nerfed

It was fine as the spammy but less consistent buckshot

Slugs was where it got out of hand

I do think ALL the 2 slot shotties need nerfs

[opal dawn]

Nah, we need something stronger than auto-4

[random nimbus]

The 3 slot option

[opal dawn]

No, stronger than auto-4 in a 2-slot

[random nimbus]

I also despise the name 'Auto-4/5'

[opal dawn]

It's not stupidly strong already!

[random nimbus]

Crown and King is so much better

[mild flower]

i mean ingame instead of shooty range

[keen holly]

TBH after play 4 rain maps in a row to 1 day map to 3 rain maps. i hate hunt sometimes lol

[mild flower]

nah no way, you really want it to be even more of an rng spam cannon?

[opal dawn]

Well, auto-5 is its real name

[mild flower]

or js do something about quartermaster, much easier than rebalancing an entire set of weapons. if just 2 slot shotties got nerfed, we would have the same issue with full slot + obrez drum.

[random nimbus]

That's how it was before the buffs. Maybe not as bad as it was, but I think it should be the spammy but less consistent one

[random nimbus]

I think we'd just end up with more whacky stuff the more things we change around. I'd prefer quartermaster be useful but the 2 slots not be so good

And the obrez drum 100% needs to be reverted back

[opal dawn]

Giving that thing 25 rounds was certainly a Crytek moment

[random nimbus]

Like, I feel if we revert the insane buffs to pre2.0, we'd be in a better place overall

And then we can finally nerf long ammo properly

[mild flower]

tbh i always complained that qm was a problem

and i still think it always was because of bow

[random nimbus]

I feel it was less of one when the obrez swayed like a drunk person, and the 2 slot shotties were worse.

Like, you had real compromises taking the 2 slots

[mild flower]

which made double 2 slot loadouts useless.
I'd personally rather double 2 slot loadouts be useable, but not to be able to completely sacrifice all decision-making and specialization in loadout crafting like quartermaster allows.

while also removing the strategic loadout solving and playing around element of the game. @random nimbus

[random nimbus]

Perhaps they could have it be that 2 slots function worse with QM, like pre2.0, but that might just overcomplicate things.

[opal dawn]

Ya I wouldn't like that as a compromise, better to just nerf 2-slots in general

[mild flower]

honestly this is one of the situations I'd be happy for them to slap the "scarce" bandage on and call it a day until they figure out something better.

[opal dawn]

Obrez Drum should have worse sway than the others, 2-slot shorties be less reliable

[mild flower]

I agree that most 2 slot weapons also need nerfs

but qm is a problem in itself

[random nimbus]

I'm just glad Gunrunner didn't come back again

[opal dawn]

Yeah but I don't see how this could be worked around. It'd be weird to remove it now

Give it like a 5% speed penalty if you have a 3 + 2 slot weapon equipped

[mild flower]

if they were to do something like this, I'd say they should make quartermaster allow you to carry 3+2 slot but at the cost of reserve ammo for the 2 slot

[random nimbus]

That's not a bad idea

[mild flower]

that way you get a backup that perfectly fills in the gap of your loadout, but at a limit. So it's like a last resort or desperate measure @random nimbus

[random nimbus]

Especially for hitting ammo stacking loadouts

[mild flower]

of course, you'd need to nerf ammo box :)

but that's another conversation

[random nimbus]

Like Obrez drum+3slot long ammo

Ammo box should go back to the rule of 2

[opal dawn]

Or reduce the amount of ammo it gives depending on your squad size

[mild flower]

or js nerf the amount of ammo it gives

[opal dawn]

Solo gets 5 long, duos gets 3, trios gets 2

[random nimbus]

I don't really want to nerf the ammo count because then it punishes people that just use it for themselves

I think it should be good since it only enhances your guns

But a whole trio shouldn't be able to use it

Maybe have it give less ammo back the more it's used

[bitter wyvern]

What is with these crashes?

I get driver issues apparently.

[opal dawn]

Yeah, that'd be a good way, first one gets its current full resup, while nr2 & 3 gets like 2 bullets

[opal dawn]

You get any error messages?

[random nimbus]

I feel like pledge crates aren't talked about enough either

[mild flower]

i like that

[random nimbus]

They have some insane potential value

[bitter wyvern]

Not really, just that DX12 doesn't like the drivers or something?

[mild flower]

they're less of an issue because you can't just easily pop them mid fight

[random nimbus]

True, but it does mean you might not even need the ammo box depending on how long that specific fight lasts

I almost never have to use my ammo box when I bring them

And then it feels like a wasted consumable I could have used for Wire or a frag

Or another restoration shot to fill the gap in my head after getting domed again

[opal dawn]

Have you reinstalled the drivers? If so try to verify Hunts files in Steam

[bitter wyvern]

I'll try that.

[random nimbus]

I would like to see poison bombs be useful too

[frigid ibex]

Impact grenade

75-100 damage

Poison damage

[royal cloak]

banana

[urban steppe]

Conc bomb 2
But poison...

Yes...

Very felis and ratpilled

[scarlet plinth]

How do you identify someone is hacking

[urban steppe]

if they kill you

[scarlet plinth]

Excluding interesting

Range

[scarlet plinth]

Damn

Guess i am a hacker after all

[normal radish]

i mean, poisom bomb IS an impact grenade

[urban steppe]

yeah you get a hitmarker on a direct hit

[normal radish]

how do i know? well i found the right way

get hit with one

[urban steppe]

yes

[normal radish]

its really tricky

[random nimbus]

Too bad 4shot is everywhere

[normal radish]

step one, if they kill you you proceed to step 2

[frigid ibex]

Yeah, like it deals 10 damage on impact

[normal radish]

step 2 they are cheating

[normal radish]

imagine dying to that

couldnt be me

on a lvl 49 hunter

[scarlet plinth]

Hmm…

[frigid ibex]

I've died to it once. Someone threw it perfectly behind a wagon I was taking cover behind, I was in healing animation

And I died

I still remember it clearly

Sniper poison bomber

[normal radish]

i caught it to the face like a 10 year old playing baseball

[frigid ibex]

That happened to me but I was 7

[normal radish]

(i didnt know baseball)

I love how hunt stays at average player count around the events end every time

despite two great game releases

shows hunt still scratches that certain itch like none else

[opal dawn]

Someone blasted me with a shotgun, then ran around the corner and cooked a sticky bomb, I chased and they chucked it right in my head

Died to headbonk

[twilit rivet]

When did week8 weekly challenge start? I killed, banished the hunter and extracted the bounty token. There's a challenge that asks to do the same. But I didnt get it counted towards the challenge. Has someone seen this bug?

[normal radish]

it deals HEADSHOT damage with the sound, ive done it to some poor fellas

[urban steppe]

All thrown consumables provide a hitmarker if you land a direct hit irc

I've thrown frag bombs onto people
and recieved the hitmarker and pain sound effect before the boom

[normal radish]

actually got the head crack sound

[mild flower]

how much do you think this would sacrifice tho

[normal radish]

yeh they do

[opal dawn]

Yeah, deals at least 100 HP damage, at least the lanterns do

[normal radish]

again i dont wanna disclose how i found out LANTERN can do that too

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-laughing-3amskypecall-gif-1225091949170588240

[opal dawn]

I think it's every wednesday

[normal radish]

restart your game when timer resets

it eliminates the chance of pesky bugs happening

but it usually counts it next time you log in

unless your unlucky

[frigid ibex]

Pretty sure it's always been the case even with other games that are now dead (marauders)

[normal radish]

well you dont have to hit me in the face with the factball bat this hard

you could just say YEAH HUNT IS STILL GREAT YAY

[frigid ibex]

There's nothing else like hunt

[normal radish]

rip marauders though

and the cycle

thinking abt the day hunt closes forever

its gonna hurt

a lot

[opal dawn]

I'm so glad I can't read rn

Water in my eyes

[normal radish]

its the weather

damn bees pollinating

[random nimbus]

Extraction shooters are kinda like MMOs in that there's a few successful ones and a lot of failed ones everyone forgets about

[normal radish]

yeh, like poor new world

fell victim to many many bad decisions

[random nimbus]

New World, Bless, Wildstar

[normal radish]

and of course marauders

[random nimbus]

TERA

[normal radish]

ohhh teraa

damn

[random nimbus]

I hate that the name is all caps

[normal radish]

you og for that

[random nimbus]

It looks like I'm yelling it lol

[normal radish]

i used to play it when i was a kid

[random nimbus]

Tera went through too many damn changes

[normal radish]

un FKING necessary ones

[random nimbus]

And I hated the ridiculous amount of race locked classes

Like NO I do NOT want to play an Elin to play reaper

[normal radish]

they had these lil gremlin things as race I HATED, like purely

i dont remember the race name

but they had acces to classes i wanted to play, but hey its like playing warrior on a gnome its just

not

it

pretty sure there was another mmo like this one that also died

[random nimbus]

The rock people?

Or the furries?

[normal radish]

eh nah they looked furry

yeh defo had fur lol

[random nimbus]

Very round and goofy looking?

[normal radish]

i mean id still describe them as gremlins as i had this innate hatred towards them for some reason

but yeh round

[random nimbus]

I remember them

I didn't like them either, but I hated Elin

Loli predator bait disguised as a race

[normal radish]

oh those, yeh we kinda ostracized people who mained those

id judge them

[random nimbus]

Then Castonic and High Elf females were extremely hypersexualized

The male Castonics were pretty damn fabulous tho

[normal radish]

thats generally not a healthy thing for any game

hope hunt never veers in that direction

even slightly

[random nimbus]

It was extremely over the top

Fan service is one thing, but it was so overdone it just felt like a teenagers fantasy

And a predators with the Elin

[normal radish]

yeh it defo wouldnt make it in 2025 lol

the critics would bombard them

[urban steppe]

Just got a mf killed with my hive bomb
Smashed the jar into a wall he was nearby and my buddy with the sparks tagged him after he took a few ticks of bee damage

[random nimbus]

Tbf, critics are usually stupid too, and I feel a lot of gamers just ignore them

[urban steppe]

dude was holding the angle and got flushed out by the bees

🙏

[random nimbus]

I saw those beads

[opal dawn]

"Worst game this year, 7.5" -IGN

[normal radish]

i did too

[random nimbus]

'Too much water'

[normal radish]

is that abt the CHADS 33?>

i read it didnt get nominated for music awards for some bullshit reasons

[urban steppe]

wrong emote

[normal radish]

the music SLAPS

[random nimbus]

Didn't that happen with bloodborne too?

[opal dawn]

I don't know tbh, I don't read what those dunces put out

I did hear it got stiffed yeah

[normal radish]

hmm i kinda think yeh? not sure

steam awards is the best one

gaben casually being the BIG E from warhammer and i cant prove it yet

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[thin ibex]

cant get voip to work anyone else?

[thin ibex]

found my issue nvrmind

[random nimbus]

[sage lotus]

if you have outrageous amounts of hunt dollars post SS no ballz

[scenic plinth]

im sure there is someone on here with actual milions in hoont pesos

[sage lotus]

i wanna see em so bad

[scarlet plinth]

I wonder when Crytek will add a “donation system”

[leaden herald]

every match requires a 1 dollar donation

[scarlet plinth]

💔

[sage lotus]

everyone claims the dultch is op which is fair but like the officer can do pretty much the same thing with less range

[royal cloak]

are you max level

[fathom shale]

Yeah for about 5 years now

[shadow vault]

With non special ammo too

Doltch is balanced

[sage lotus]

fr

[fathom shale]

I'll believe it when someone spells it right

[empty eagle]

What is doltch

[fathom shale]

(not even then, it's easily the strongest pistol and still a bit too strong imo)

[ocean briar]

I always found it underwhelming tbh

[royal cloak]

interesting

[uneven tiger]

whats the number above your head mean

[raven totem]

the limb changes really changed where certain things sit balance wise in that catagory.

base dolch really isn't op

where it becomes an ugly headach for certain is dolch p

[opal dawn]

Better velo, 10 round mag, 10 round stripper clip. Base dolch isn't OP but it's the strongest semi 1-slot

DolchP like Glide says is the issue, which is why it's the most popular 2-slot pistol

[wheat flume]

so where da pumpkins go?

[rapid aurora]

This game is so hard for a solo newbie but the satisfaction of finally getting a kill is so good

Any tips?

Don’t feel like watching a 30 min-1hr long tutorial video

[opal dawn]

Play and learn

Always max out health if you can do it safely, if you're at 125HP there's so many weapons that can 1-tap you easier

[sage lotus]

It’s also 8 times the price lol

[opal dawn]

Try to learn to go for headshots now, it'll be easier than in the future. It probably will hurt you in the short run, but pay off in the longer

[sage lotus]

Steam friend ID used to find groups in this server few years ago

[opal dawn]

Play guns with the same velo ranges, helps you learn how to lead

[opal dawn]

Money really isn't an issue

[sage lotus]

Ik it’s a pro regardless tho

Also non special more ammo and better recoil are the pro to it compared to it but obv the dultch is better but they do pretty much the same thing is what I’m saying spam secondary

And the officer carbine competes with the dultch stock version just gotta run a mini mosin or shotgun

[opal dawn]

Sure, but the full-sized rifles are better, which is why the DolchP is the more popular one

It's a 2-slot, giving you the better long-range weapon

My buddy always pump money into double dolchp's before prestige in Clash

[sage lotus]

Most def but they still serve the same purpose

[opal dawn]

The officer carbine is the meta gun of the compact variety

[random nimbus]

[raven totem]

officer carbine took a pretty big hit on the chin with 1896 update and compact didn't scale as well as medium, idk

[south shore]

[granite blade]

fatjaw

[slow thunder]

our beloved

[opal dawn]

Ratjaw, and it's me sitting in a bush with maynard

[slow thunder]

best duo

[frigid ibex]

Compact got buffed in the fall off changes. 25 damage is minimum now

As long as the bullet exists and you hit upper

[raven totem]

Ok

[opal dawn]

Don't think anyone's reliably hitting several shots at those ranges

[frigid ibex]

No more tickle damage

[frigid ibex]

Well the thing is, it happened before it was that range

Because compact fall off was steep

[raven totem]

And 6 shots later, woooo damncrytek don't over buff me I might bust

[frigid ibex]

You would deal 5 damage 170m

[raven totem]

Meanwhile hv nerf clothes lined compact on hv

[opal dawn]

That 25 isn't doing much to help most compact players

[raven totem]

There's no real difference between 25 and 1 really in that scenario

[opal dawn]

You'd be better off fishing for headshots in that case

[raven totem]

"Hey I touched you, look at me"

[mild flower]

it would matter if regen shot wasnt the way it is

[raven totem]

Don't get me wrong, compact broke some breakpoints with limb shot

[raven totem]

Stalemates

Not everyone likes camping corners for 45 minutes

[mild flower]

why is that relevant

i am just pointing out they were probably aiming for "well at least it breaks 1 health bar"

but that doesn't matter at all bc regen

[raven totem]

Indeed

Irrelevant to what I'm getting at though

[frigid ibex]

Yeah, getting HV buffed might be enough for compact

[raven totem]

Compact was in a better meta relevance position pre nerf hv

[frigid ibex]

HV was a good addition in my opinion

It didn't do anything absurd like one tap someone at 70m

Like nitro shredder addition

[raven totem]

It helped Compact reach up to more of a fair fight on long, the medium ammo scaling broke it

[mild flower]

HV did definetely need a nerf, but they might have gone a bit hard on it

[frigid ibex]

Honestly, medium has been ruined every since they buffed compact (compact buff was needed).
Like conversion and winfield had 80 damage on upper torso. Nagant needed to 3 tap to kill

When they buffed that, compact became super close to medium

[raven totem]

And crytek adding hv to guns that shouldn't have access of course

[frigid ibex]

They just forgot to make a clear difference between the two

[mild flower]

custom ammo got put on too many guns overall.

[frigid ibex]

Until now

Slug wasn't on every shotgun.

And then they gave it to every shotgun

[raven totem]

It's a hot take around here but I think dum dum is good for the game over all

[frigid ibex]

After like 6 months after they added special ammo to the game

I think dumdum is overly complained on. It has the most counterplay out of anything in the game

Medkit, surefoot, physician, bloodless, hold F

[mild flower]

i think dumdum is also an ammo type that too many weapons have access to though

but the ammo type itself im fine with

[frigid ibex]

Idk, there's a few relevant one

A lot of dumdum weapons are pointless with dumdum

Like nagant, conversion, pax

Etc

The only relevant thing you want is intense bleed

And that's medium rifle dumdum

The rest is just 🤷‍♂️

[opal dawn]

I have bloodless anyway, bring it on!

I'll bait you behind a fence

[frigid ibex]

Honestly the sole reason I never play it

[fathom shale]

Holding F is the part I hate about it

[opal dawn]

Ya i like my pen

[fathom shale]

Status effect ammo types are annoying and should be perma scarce

But I'm also fine with custom ammo altogether becoming scarce

[opal dawn]

It's been a blast without explo xbow and fragrrows

ngl

[fathom shale]

Same, it's not like it's a night and day difference or anything, but the game has so many gimmicks that take away from good fights where people are actually shooting at eachother and only factors being aim and positioning that reducing the amount of said gimmicks even by one or two has been better overall

[rotund loom]

The problem with special ammo is that often it has little to no downsides.

[random nimbus]

Certain special ammos

[rotund loom]

yeah

[random nimbus]

Some have very hefty downsides

[sweet moat]

before special ammo, hunt was better. altho i did like frag arrows in a situation where bounty team would fortify themselves in the house and would not even challenge siege team

bring mustard gas to hunt please

[rotund loom]

frag nades / poison bombs

but yes buff poison bombs pls

[fathom shale]

I also preferred Hunt fights pre custom ammo, people say that custom ammo is necessary because of long ammo being meta and while I also dislike long ammo being so strong, I'd rather fight more long ammo than people with ammo that can set me on fire/bleeding/poisoned over 20 times in a fight

[opal dawn]

It gets tiring

[rotund loom]

but specifically dumdum - it's hardly balanced next to poison ammo, is it?

[raven totem]

there are only so many plain archtypes to follow

custom ammo adds depth to that

[random nimbus]

DumDum is very annoying and has strong innate strengths, but it does have one really hefty downside

Poison as well, and Poison is really negatively impacted by events

[raven totem]

I've been playing abi and it's either, one shots people once in the face the best, or what has the best dps at x range

most shooters would kill to have the depth that hunt has in this regard

[sweet moat]

dont know if poison bomb buff would change things that much, then they just buy more antidote. mustard gas would be good, only counter could be standing in a choke bomb, then asleast sige team could try wallbang

[mild flower]

poison annoying and strong?

or the downside

[rotund loom]

What's that? Not being able to pen is the only downside I can think of.

[random nimbus]

The downsides. It can be both annoying and strong in the right circumstances.

[opal dawn]

Lower velo and drop

[rotund loom]

eh, those are fiarly margial feels like

[mild flower]

yeah that's a nasty downside.

[random nimbus]

That's a very very huge downside. DumDum is more affected by Surefoot existing too

[mild flower]

no pen is massive

[raven totem]

and perks that flat out laugh at it

not as hard as poison gets hit with antidote but close

[random nimbus]

Bloodless turns off dum dum, effectively

[raven totem]

surefoot

[random nimbus]

Got poofed with a bad word, apparently

[raven totem]

lol aww automod

[random nimbus]

but Poison gets rekt by 4shot being everywhere too

[mild flower]

dumdum?

with a space?

[random nimbus]

Starts with a C and usually is memed with a chair

4 letters

[vocal zealot]

I did good guys! Made a little clip c: proud of myself

[random nimbus]

Well, 6 letters because of the context.

[raven totem]

that and in aspect to dum dum is that it's on non meta guns on the get, like there is no long dum dum

another ammo that helps guns reach up

[opal dawn]

God, Krag with dumdum...

[whole mist]

Oh no

[raven totem]

I still stand by that base long as special ammo balancing with red crate cost

[random nimbus]

So make long ammo not resupply with red crates?

And only with special boxes?

[raven totem]

I'm not saying all of that, I've no real opinion

just power scale wise

[opal dawn]

Long ammo should be worse against limbs, make it a torso/headshot round

[raven totem]

base long scales verse lesser rifles like special ammo would in comparison

[random nimbus]

Every ammo should be worse against limbs

[raven totem]

with limb pen I don't think that would actually have a real effect tbf

[frigid ibex]

They should make long one tap upper torso like it does in tarkov

[opal dawn]

Fair

[rotund loom]

It's big, but hardly massive. The benefit dumdum provides is massive. No pen is "big" at best. Like, how many kills did you get (or deaths) did you get because dumdum, and how many were pens?

[random nimbus]

The limb damage changes were a HUGE mistake

I wanted them to nerf limb damage, not buff it

[random nimbus]

I kill a LOT with pen

[raven totem]

I've mixed feelings on it

[opal dawn]

It only reinforced the already strongest guns

[random nimbus]

Not having pen is one of the single worst things to deal with for me

[mild flower]

Actually I'd say more with pen than dumdum. This question doesn't change my mind

[rotund loom]

are we talking about fmj spam or something else?

[rotund loom]

ah I see, thanks.

[raven totem]

like I've said before, I don't really three tap with kraid since they buffed it and out of repeating long it's the least hard hitting. limb changes didn't effect long outside of avto

rifles*

[frigid ibex]

Ive gotten a lot of kills where I tag someone and then pen their cover

[random nimbus]

Pen in general. I still fish for wallbangs all the time, and headshot people through walls decently often

[mild flower]

Oftentimes someone is peeking a very tight angle, through a fence or crack, or you catch aim on someone just as they withdraw back behind their peeking spot. That's when penetration is super important.

[frigid ibex]

Its a double tap and their pathing is predictable

[random nimbus]

And even without headshots, no pen makes some positions extremely difficult to navigate

[raven totem]

vetterli/ lemta carvbine fmj go brrrrrrr

[serene river]

[random nimbus]

Like, a basic wooden fence turns off dumdum while I can still shoot through it just fine

[opal dawn]

LeMta carvbine new name

[slow thunder]

that's why as soon as i leave the sight of the enemy i stop and stand very still

[raven totem]

lol

[opal dawn]

We need a talon carbine so it can be called the Carvebine

[raven totem]

I threaded a sliver in a fence and got a guy in the face with berth incidiary once, I was rolling. I would have been mad if I where him

[mild flower]

only after we start calling chain pistol the chistol

[opal dawn]

Deal

[royal cloak]

sick

[random nimbus]

I think I have an older clip when playing with Dizz after the Specter Carbine came out where I was against a dumdum player

And I just stayed behind a wooden gate adn they never hit me

I double tap pen killed them

[frigid ibex]

Yeah there's cases where that happen and I don't get the pen kill

[raven totem]

thats why they gotta bring a trueshot fmj

[frigid ibex]

Or long ammo

[mild flower]

2016 editing but with more modern memes

awesome

[raven totem]

for follow up bangs I actually prefer trueshot

[vocal zealot]

never made one before

[mild flower]

sparps fmj is my go-to wallbang secondary

either that or chain pistol fmj or narmy fmj if i wanna spam

[raven totem]

cccp fmj has become a clash gun for me really

I do still play ccp fmj occasionally though

I wish they would show more love skin wise to ccp, it's is superior to the chain in so many ways

the only set up i really play sparks p on is berth

because not only split but then plenty for both ammos, and once you get down you can just steal another pistol

[mild flower]

cccp

chad chain conversion pistol?

oh

colt?

caldwell

CALDWELL

I FORGOT IT USED TO BE NAMED THAT

[frigid ibex]

They kinda gave it 500 skins

At first

[mild flower]

caldwell conversion chain pistol was such a wordy name im actually glad they changed that one

as well as LeMat Mark II UpperMat

[mild flower]

isn't it just spread

or does it also load faster

[frigid ibex]

People just called it conversion or ccp

[mild flower]

for the base variant

not for chain

[frigid ibex]

Like no one said Caldwell rival, they said rival

[frigid ibex]

People just said chain for chain

There's no other

[mild flower]

yeah and newbies or people out of the loop had no idea what they were talking about

especially for ccp and cccp

[frigid ibex]

They'll learn

It made me learn guns

I had no knowledge at all

[compact lance]

its good, but not enough sparks.

[vocal zealot]

Lol

I do use other things too

[slow thunder]

erddun?!

welcome to the server~

[compact lance]

)))

yes its me. nothing changed. definedly didnt lose my account.

[slow thunder]

say something only a real erddun would

[compact lance]

uhh

you got me there.

i dont know what a real me would say.

[slow thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-queen-band-queen-music-freddie-freddie-mercury-gif-16463702482665114707

this u

[compact lance]

yes but more a more sparkly suit

[round sorrel]

Communications again dead ? able to say hello to my random then chat doesnt work, voice doesnt work anymore

[sinful aurora]

the great pretender anime was great, higly recommend

why cry?

[slow thunder]

you befuddle me with where exactly i find your presence within culture

[sinful aurora]

lol

[compact lance]

i know its a skill issue but i just accidentally removed deathcheat from my character when i went to take pitcher and greyhound away, it's 100% my fault for not being careful and accepting too quickly. but i think there should be a different "accept removal" menu for burn & scarce traits.

[compact lance]

never heard of it actually. i'll look it up

[sinful aurora]

nice

is there still the issue that traits jump around when you add/remove some?

[wooden cipher]

Its foggy DeSalle outside my window

[compact lance]

idk apparently

[sinful aurora]

ugh

[compact lance]

i never clicked on deathcheat

maybe it selected it automatically

[sinful aurora]

i hope it gets fixed soon

[compact lance]

send some pennies their way and i am sure it will be extra fast

[sinful aurora]

[mild flower]

There's so many things/bugs to fix rn I don't know what's gonna get tackled first

[compact lance]

if we were immoral people we could gamble stuff on this

[mild flower]

I can name 5 off the top of my head

Can't solo self revive after dying to an explosion
Solo self revive is instantly killed by poison cloud before restoration
Death cheat disappearing
Game mode automatically switching to hunt instead of clash
Traits shifting around

Any more?

Oh, bileweavers flinging you to the moon when they lunge you

That's 6

[compact lance]

i have experienced all 6 of these personally

this doesnt seem like a good thing

[mild flower]

It's not

Oh, right! Throwing tools glitching under the map

[compact lance]

watch out for the guy with gaming glasses

[mild flower]

7

[compact lance]

does this include when mobs eat them?

or is that what this is

[limpid nymph]

Does anyone else keep getting packet loss in every match?

[mild flower]

Do we count traps clipping inside terrain to be invisible or does that count as a feature?

[mild flower]

Not sure

[sly stump]

Any dev online ?

[dreamy cave]

If it fits it sits

[compact lance]

feature for sure.

[tall canopy]

if you want to contact crytek u need to contact the #customer-support

[sly stump]

I didnt want to kinda say this publicly but when are you guys fixing the damn Alice farm ladder?

[dreamy cave]

Lol

[tall canopy]

idk. you can ask the customer support, or just wait for the next update and report that bug

[sly stump]

I believe It has been reported ages ago and still there are ppl abusing It

[sinful aurora]

regular bugs can be reported in #bug-reports-pc
exploits preferable to #customer-support directly

[sly stump]

Guess one has to wait

Alright ty

[night elm]

.

[dawn zinc]

Alice Farm ladder?

[mild flower]

What counts as an exploit vs a bug?

Is an exploit anything that can be abused for an advantage or?

[unique trail]

Hi guys i will be playing hunt tonight after work

[crystal bay]

As a short description that is good

[unique trail]

Can't wait

[crystal bay]

Anything unintended that gives an unfair advantage

so bugs can be exploits

[tall canopy]

bug is bug. but u can eploit bugs to get an advantage.

[mild flower]

So no self Rez after explosion and no self Rez in poison are exploits? Idk I wouldn't call them that personally

Maybe cause it's easy to accidentally use them

[crystal bay]

I wouldn't say those are exploits

[mild flower]

But why

[crystal bay]

Hard to tell if people are doing it intentionally or accidentally, but that is something that just happens in base gameplay

[mild flower]

Like I agree but why

[crystal bay]

Typically exploits you have to go out of your way to take advantage of it

[compact lance]

i just accidentally killed my teammate trying to throw a shovel at a meathead 😭

[fervent aspen]

Damn

Bonk.mp3

[compact lance]

called me an idiot and an instant disconnect, never change randoms :))

[cursive dew]

I need this photo without the text

[compact lance]

this is the reason i picked it up, i had a spear anyway

[fervent aspen]

Should’ve thrown the spear :3

[compact lance]

it would have hit them anyway since they ran past at the perfect (or worst) moment

[hasty cedar]

Are the bileweaver stage 1 codes supposed to expire?

[unique trail]

Yes I think so

It was only like a day or 2 the codes were good

[crystal bay]

They expired Nov 3

[hasty cedar]

That’s annoying. I haven’t really had time to be on cause of work

[unique trail]

Really lame on crytek's part

[crystal bay]

The new ones expire Nov 17th I believe

[unique trail]

Would be better if they stayed up during the entire event

[sinful aurora]

a bug that is used for an not intended advantage. usually requires the player to go out of their way to exploit the bug for advantage.

[unique trail]

No the 17th is for the last rites community challenge thing

There has been no date for the spider event codes

Redeem the stage 2 spider codes ASAP

[hasty cedar]

Im glad I found out now before the others expired

I really want the gun skins

[unique trail]

Yeah at least stage 1 was just shot skins and not weapon

[crystal bay]

I'll have to double check, but you could be correct and I mixed up the dates

[round nova]

I like the option to sacrifice bars to buy trait points

[compact lance]

menace

the worst part is you just get it back with the recovery shot

right?

[hasty cedar]

You get back bars yes

[compact lance]

yes but i am not 100% sure if it still works for bars you take away yourself in the lobby.

never done it myself so

[hasty cedar]

If you take of 100 and use shots it wont save the bar layout or it didn’t for me. So Instead of small big small, it was just bigs

I might’ve changed what my saved bar loadout was as well. I use bigs on solos so I might’ve changed it and forgot

[full raven]

I never even thought about this. Actually opens up more build for the cost of a recovery shot?

[crystal bay]

It does

I don't know the cost is quite worth the single trait points

/ missing out on consumables to use later

but it is a strat

[round nova]

usually use it for the missing steady aim or hundred hands. or to have pack mule, pitcher, and necromancer

orrrrr just to gamble vulture

[opal dawn]

The rich rat strat

[scenic plinth]

fat rat

[mild flower]

Another problematic aspect of recov shot

Also you could just take all your bars for traits, go in and use recovs, than extract and repeat and you get infinite traits on a level 1 hunter. Fun.

[vague meadow]

bro i stopped playing 5 month ago how is this thing still crashing

[granite blade]

and then you get spawn killed by a winnie after wasting 20 minutes doing that, ggs

[eager trench]

i genuinely would like to believe there isnt a single person who cares about perks enough to waste 30+ minutes AND THOUSANDS of dollars for stupid traits before actually engaging in playing hunt....

[mild flower]

You would be very surprised

Also money is a non factor for a large portion of players

[eager trench]

ya, i would be very surprised because its beyond unreasonable. you would literally have more traits faster quickly pveing a few compounds and snagging packets. its a beyond unreasonable method that hold genuinely 0 significant bonus and dumber way to do that lol

[crystal bay]

If that's how they want to do it all the power to em

[granite blade]

dont think about it too much man, they are just grasping at straws to think of reasons to get recov nerfed ;v

[eager trench]

for sure more power to them, but id like to assume the entire community knows thats the hardest sounding way imaginable lol

[crystal bay]

Unfortunately it has skin now so it can't just be removed

[eager trench]

not a skin now, multiple skins 😛

one came out on release plus with a dlc didnt it?

[crystal bay]

I believe so

[mild flower]

It's frustrating that they keep adding skins to things before testing to see if they're good for the game but ig when something is released is the most profitable time to release the skins

Hopefully they test these kind of additions in the test game modes in 2026

[eager trench]

Recovery shot is 100% a good edition to the game. my only kink on it is they should be something you cant buy during an event

[mild flower]

You are right

[crystal bay]

I think maynard to this date still doesn't have skins

so part of me is questioning it

[granite blade]

crytek really should have polls in game and have them show results publicly so we really know whats good for the game and not tbh

[mild flower]

Silenced Maynard yeah, so hopefully they remove it

[eager trench]

recovery shot when an event isnt active is a nice way to encourage people to actually stick in the game after their spawn fight and the boss is across the literal entire map insta-banished. during an event it is definitely excessive since during a event you could quite literally restore like 80 bars per person in one game (obviously the chances of that is less than 0) but hypothetically you definitely can

[granite blade]

then we can actually shit on their decision making... or praise them for being smarter than us

[mild flower]

Just make it something that's not completely risk/telegraph free and I'm fine with it.

[eager trench]

I enjoy the maynard too, personally i never use the silenced version so cant say id miss it tbh

[mild flower]

It's the fact that anyone could have restored at any point

You can't rely on health info anymore

Because of both regen and recov

[eager trench]

thats why i treat all of my plays as aggressive as possible, dont gotta worry about constantly downing the same guy if i merk your entire squad

[mild flower]

Yeah that's the issue not everyone wants to or can play like that

Especially in the shotgun meta

Where everyone is holding corners with crowns

[eager trench]

ill push into shotguns with a maynard bruh... just gotta mentally know whens a good time to force a play after an entry pick i guess

[mild flower]

Solo?

[eager trench]

ah from a solo perspective id never run a sniper to begin with

my last solo loadout i ran throwing spear, hammer, 1865 carbine

[mild flower]

Js wondering if you have underdog bonus

[eager trench]

11 kills

got entry frag with a carbine headshot, rushed in threw a spear and double tagged last guy. plenty of options for pushing even if you have a sniper/rifle

[mild flower]

Well either you're that guy or your opponents whiffed terribly, but either way not everyone can rely on either of those

[eager trench]

definitely not "that guy" just have an unbelieveable amount of confidence in my spear throwing abilities since i always first buy frontier and run spears daily since they've come out

[mild flower]

@eager trench but anyway, again, as I was saying. Not everyone wants to or can rush and play like that. A lot of people play hunt specifically because it allows a more careful and slow playstyle

[eager trench]

this is true, but you can play a careful slow playstyle that doesnt require downing someone 40 times, no?

[mild flower]

Fair

[eager trench]

if you know its shotty central they gotta leave eventually, just go hit a resupply and vibe out or something

[mild flower]

Id say that depends a lot on your opponents, but it's not just the downing 40 times, it's the never being able to rely on health info that you've gathered. That strips a layer of strategy away.

Again, id be fine with recovery if it was telegraphed and or more risky

[turbid dock]

recovering health bars should probably notify the entire lobby like gaining dark sight does

[eager trench]

id be fine with recov being an in world object but at the same time idk... i just rarely find myself in a situation that it makes that much of a difference i guess

[full raven]

There has been a lot of times where I'm just 1 point short of a build

[turbid dock]

maybe by a mark on the map, or maybe the restoration effect we already have should be loud and obvious as shit, like a giant boom and a lightning strike visible from across the map lmao

[eager trench]

would you make that a shot based thing or legit all times? you'd ding none stop during an event

[mild flower]

Idk about you but most of the players I see have shotguns or 2 slot shotguns at least. I don't wanna leave and vibe for the majority of my fights, I wanna play the game

Which is why I also aggress on them

[mild flower]

Could make it a lightning bolt

When they recov

Like, they use the shot and lightning strikes towards them

[eager trench]

so your issue doesnt seem to be a recovery shot then... its that you're not utilizing the options you have to maximize your scenarios? after 3k hours i just assume everyone even a guy i know that downed me with a sniper probably has a spam secondary or a quartmastered shotgun which still is something to be more mindful of than the consumable they may or may not have which in itself requries a change of how to approach them... also since you get 3 rampage, 3 remedy, 3 relentless (technically 9 remedy since it restores entire squads) i treat 100% of fights during events as full hp engagements

id say before a recov rework they probably should look at burn trait reworks since we're in long standing events those are TREMENDOUSLY more likely to be overflowing in someones perks tab

[full raven]

Or the wooden god itself

The best two slot shotgun

[eager trench]

haha bow is pretty nice secondary...or do you mean the spammy boy?

[full raven]

Bow The one tapper extraordinaire

[eager trench]

i almost always have a secondary ohk shotgun/bow or some form of melee

[full raven]

150 damage to the foot

Yeah my secondary is almost always a one tapper close range

Or maybe a rapid fire pistol or a fanning pistol something that kills close

[eager trench]

ye

melee, or a new army/dolch for perkless options is usually my go to

[full raven]

I love the katana so much but it always baits me into running headfirst into death

I could have easily just shot him in the face but not I got a katana

[opal dawn]

Lemat carbine is nice for perkless runs imo

[full raven]

I honestly don't think the centennial really needs iron eye

[eager trench]

my melee baby is the chad railroad hammer. i love how fast it handles pve plus one shotting all breakable objects or people is a massive bonus

[full raven]

New army is probably my favorite pistol right now

Lemat for the one shotgun obviously though is pretty good

[eager trench]

my go to loadout as of late is either a vetterli or an 1865 with a hammer, 2 spears, 3 death traps, recove, stam, regen, then a team based consumable like frag or ammo

[opal dawn]

Post-patch vett has been reaaalll nice

[eager trench]

cqb-30m is my throwing spear/hammer anything else is the vett/1865

[full raven]

I have been using obras extended with the bow a lot

Obrez

[eager trench]

i know the extended is the ideal one, but i just loved the closed casket skin so thats my go to with bow

[opal dawn]

That is the strongest 2-slot weapon overall in the game

Is very good

[full raven]

I don't have bullet rubber on a level 1 1 Hunter so I use extended and just never reload

[eager trench]

quickswapping haymakers is a solid 2 slot loadout too

[opal dawn]

Yeah, mucho fun

Double Haymakers with fmj is great in Clash

[eager trench]

i been p100 for a while now but still buy loadouts like im prestiging daily :/ i just feel so weird buying mosin dolch every game ._.

[opal dawn]

Hunt Meta. Hunt Meta never changes

[eager trench]

i never been a meta slave idk... i know its ideal but i feel so much more confident with the other shit something just feels good about medium ammo to me

been fucking with the vett silencer/subs too thats been fun

[full raven]

I'm a filthy Maynard sniper bow enjoyer silased of course

Silenced

[opal dawn]

I don't know, I'm over the whole meta arguments at this point, I don't care if they bring winnies or mosins now

[eager trench]

the silencer was cool at first but now that its scarce dumdum and only 130 damage i never buy it

to me that was the coolest part of maynard, the dumdum under 40m body shots using it like a shotgun xD

[full raven]

I used to run the non-silenced but I noticed that the silence let me get a more shots in a fight without being noticed immediately

And I use high velocity ammo

[eager trench]

any silencer i use i do the subs.... i never understood how people struggled to hear HV within 100m of a silenced gun

[full raven]

I mostly use it to pick off with headshots but really most of my fighting is with the bow

I think it's less about the noise and more about they don't pick you out of the bush right away

[eager trench]

another fun loadout is the quad sparks pistols with incen... literal pirate loadout

run the carter skin or deckhand haha

[full raven]

I'm a huge fan of Sparks pistol not dualies just the pistol but it's so good I use it as a pocket rifle a ton

[eager trench]

i like it with dualies its the only time i use it unless i got a krag and wanna just spam wallbangs

[wooden cipher]

The hell is this trap combo? Poison + bleed, cant escape it, cant stop bleeding, cant do nothing.. WTF????????????????????????????????

[opal dawn]

The meta trap combo

[eager trench]

you can easily avoid a trap brother

[full raven]

Never leave home without vigilant

[eager trench]

vigilante 1 point, as a trapper myself i hate that perk with a passion but its there

[wooden cipher]

Im not talking about avoiding it, im talking about once you step on it, its GG for you and you cant do nothing about it

[opal dawn]

As someone who hates trappers, I always pick it

Until I meet the smart ones that don't plant them until they're getting you to chase them 'round corners

[full raven]

That's like complaining about not being able to react to being shot in the head

[eager trench]

you can also not die to a trap you've stepped in....

if you're full speed sending that shit through it just keep chugging if you slow walked into it side/back step away if its in a window thats probably just gg

[wooden cipher]

Thats the dumbest argument ive heard all day. Its completely different because this trap combo is literally an exploit

[opal dawn]

It's... Not an exploit

[eager trench]

i go hard into the trapping some times.... frontier/packmule double up on regens snag vigor no medkit.... beartrap. poison/con and some alerts XD

[wooden cipher]

Cant you see how bugged the ticks are? Ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh - dead in 1.5 sec

[full raven]

I can tell there's no talking to this guy

[silver wadi]

I've said it once, I'll say it again. If it's in the game, and meant to be there ((Aka not a bug or something that needs to be fixed)) It's a functioning mechanic of play

[opal dawn]

If you had antidote it wouldn't hurt much at all

[eager trench]

yaa antidote counters it entirely too

[silver wadi]

Who takes antidote though

[opal dawn]

You have 4-shot boons these days

[eager trench]

during an event everyone has a permanent antidote brother

4 shot boon

[silver wadi]

This is true

[opal dawn]

I always take one of them before heading into a lair or fight

(Provided I find one)

[wooden cipher]

Poison only cancels healing.. Antidote cancels poison.. but u lose hp and die in 1.5 sec, so thats bullshit

[silver wadi]

I always bring stam shot and regen

[full raven]

There is no counter to this no I don't want to take that trait no I don't want to avoid it no I don't want to buy the item that counters it

[opal dawn]

The poison cloud hurts you

That thing hurts A LOT

Just step into a poison trap in shooting range and you'll see how much it does

[silver wadi]

Conc-poison is annoying as shit, but damn is it effective.

[eager trench]

poison cloud itself is what 13 damage per like .5 seconds? antio makes poison cloud do literally 0 damage

[west helm]

Its also great for location information if you know exactly where your traps are hehe then its buckshot time 🦑

[eager trench]

the best trap is 4 alerts infront of 2 beartraps

its a redskull instakill trap ❤️

[west helm]

Interesting

[silver wadi]

I keep insta-kill traps in my terminus

[west helm]

I just use poison, and concertina, followed by a concertina bomb if I dont wanna deal with that door

[eager trench]

if you put the beartraps in front it doesnt work you wanna make sure they hit the alerts first independetly

[opal dawn]

I love conc bombs, some lairs have that pesky entrance I don't like

Your buddy died over that wall? Lemme trap 'em real quick

[west helm]

Exactly

[eager trench]

i miss the good ol days when you could just toss a poison bomb and that person couldnt rez for 6 minutes... i hate that chokes get rid of them now 🙁

[west helm]

Well that and why I run the terminus

[whole mist]

Ballerina cappuccino, what’s your pfp from?

[eager trench]

I haven't a slightest clue just Google my daughter kept saying it so changed my picture to it lol

Not even sure wtf it is

[opal dawn]

Probably some tiktok brainrot

[copper pawn]

wtf is wrong with randoms today? I'm getting people with room temperature iq

[patent tusk]

I worry for the next Gen😭

[queen shore]

someone plays this

[sick temple]

What a way to int with the wildland

It could be an effort to try it to balance it so he doesnt feel bad

[whole furnace]

No no, think of the booste to ammo for levering!
Those extra two bullets sure is gonna make a difference!

[normal radish]

when you DONT spend any point in inteligence and all into DEX

silent unga bunga

[full raven]

Str only

[queen shore]

he used it with levering it sounded like paintball gun

[normal radish]

thatd be a hammer only build

[mortal basin]

It can probably spawn with subsonic, right?

Maybe it just came stock with that ammo

[normal radish]

if yer unlucky enough

[queen shore]

not sure every time i took windland it had only dumdum or hv

[mortal basin]

Yeah, same. I wonder if it can

[eager trench]

I don't think it can? Isn't sub reserved for guns that actually have silenced versions

[queen shore]

well it is but u can put it on normal gun also

[eager trench]

It's technically its own gun for now?

[mortal basin]

It probably can't. He was likely just doing it for the meme

[eager trench]

Nah I mean family wise

Like anything with a silenced variant but wild lands technically is standalone

[normal radish]

no you can have sub sonic on most guns

and it uses same ammo pool as centyu

[queen shore]

ye its own family i think its ammo is called wildland

like u have officer subsonic also but it doesnt take it from normal nagant its from its own tree

[normal radish]

if you have dum dum on centy i think you can use it on wildland no?